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Dan Le Batard
Rules and restrictions apply. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?
Tony
I'm sorry.
Dan Le Batard
I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
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Mike Ryan
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Dan Le Batard
Is Brady better than Romo now as a broadcaster?
Stugotz
It's certainly worth discussing. Brady has really improved this season.
Dan Le Batard
Well, Romo's gotten worse.
Stugotz
Yeah, but that was a. That's been a several year thing. Remember there was a report a couple like three years ago where CBS execs had to meet with Tony Romo to stage an intervention about his preparation.
Dan Le Batard
One of the things that he continues to do every single game, no matter the game, is these seven things are as good as any you will ever see in the NFL or anywhere as there is presently in the NFL. It can't be everybody, Tony. It can't be everybody that we're watching in every game we're watching that, you're just hitting the note again and again that this safety, the latest safety, is as good in the league as anybody at this. That's not empirically true in any way.
Stugotz
Tony Romo's immediate approval was kind of like a perfect storm because the game had changed so much. Like offenses, the game had totally evolved with the sophistication to it and he was affable and he was so closely removed. Like Tony Romo started broadcasting months after we had last seen him on the field.
Mike Ryan
Well, remember, everyone thought it was so cute that he was able to predict the play because he had a pretty.
Stugotz
Good idea because he was in those film rooms.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but he was, he was still doing it this weekend and getting some of them wrong. Because it's interesting to me that the Ben Johnson's of the world are new and they're here, they've got their young quarterbacks and they're here to say out loud history of the sport, the packers.
Stugotz
Them, all the, all the tweaking that Tom Brady has done and I think he's done more personal stories. Listening to the greatest bad weather quarterback of all time. Talk to you about the difficulties in throwing in the wind. Like I'm always going to be there for that. But less has been more for Tom Brady. It got through to him. He's received coaching and he's learned. Like let me, let me do more bite sized.
Mike Ryan
Why wouldn't he get better? Someone who's never done broadcasting is thrown into the broadcast booth with no experience and you don't think they're going to get better.
Stugotz
I guess it's because it'd been two seasons. We have a clip that got traction online where we kind of wrote them off because at mid season it didn't look like it and he turned a corner and you're absolutely right. We, I think if anything has taught us, if anything we've learned, let's stop counting Tom Brady out at anything in life because he's, he is. If you overlook him and you doubt.
Dan Le Batard
Him, oh no, I'm going to keep doing it on the Raiders. I'm going to keep doing it on the Raiders.
Stugotz
Go ahead, Brady Mendoza.
Dan Le Batard
Brady, I will keep doubting you. I'm going to chase you to the grave and you won't respect me any more than crystal ball does, but I'm going to chase you to the grave saying no, you were bad at that because you were shitty then. There's no question about that, that he's gotten better and that Romo hasn't Worked at it. Same way. Not surprising that, that. That Brady would chase down Romo in the booth with 300 million more in guarantees. Yes, of course he's going to be better at this if he wishes to be six years from now because he's going to get the reps of it and he's going to care about getting better. But yes, he was terrible at the beginning. I'm not taking that back.
Stugotz
I think now all he needs to do is add to moments. Add the right amount of color at the right time on big time moments. Because when I still tune in to Tom Brady it doesn't feel like it's a big game. He and but that's just a resume thing, right? His voice will sound like it belongs on a big game much the way that it did with Chris Fowler early on. It was awkward and now you can't picture a big time college football game without it.
Dan Le Batard
No, the best one. The best one this weekend. And it's how prime bought its way into the game. And holy shit. Football was broadcast amazing. These amazing games. And at the top of it, in the middle of it all I know it can get forgotten because all the games are great and interesting yesterday. Goodbye Jacksonville. I should have never trusted you. I hate that I did. The best of all of these was the framing on and this is how this shit happens. Give me that lafleur sound if you want to see how high the flames can, can climb when these moments happen in pressurized things that we're all watching. And hey Tomlin, you win, you go on. We won't fire you. Harbaugh, you're gone. LaFleur has a quarterback that's a great job. That's a great young quarterback. If you're not good enough. LaFleur one of these young whiz kids who have taken over the game and you can get old fast when you lose a game that way. And Al Michaels is in the booth and he is saying I've been at this field 30 plus times. It's never felt like this. He could feel the play shaking. 80 year old Al Michaels will not quit because he wants to be at the center of those games. Went to prime to make him big and has. And now that falls on the floor. Listen to him in this press conference after the game. That is the greatest collapse in playoff history. And all sorts of flukery immaculate like you can't lose that game statistically. The advantages that you had throughout that game and. And it's the second time in a couple of weeks they did that to you as Ben Johnson leaves the field saying, now I got the quarterback and the Bears matter again.
Tony
And.
Dan Le Batard
And look at how high the flames climb on this guy. Hey, Matt, you got a year left on your contract, and policy has said he doesn't like lame duck seasons. Do you expect to be back next season? Have you guys already started negotiating that deal?
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
With all due respect to your question, Pete, now's not the time for that. I mean, I'm just hurting for these guys. You know, I can only think about just what just happened, and there will be time for that.
Tony
Matt, you've won a lot of games here.
Dan Le Batard
I know you always say the quarterback. It's too much blame. And I'm sure it's the same for you as a coach, too. But after the way the season finished and a couple other playoff shortcomings, why do you think you should be back here next year again? Pete, I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna get into that right now. Do you think your team has the.
Mike Ryan
Confidence that the leadership of this organization.
Dan Le Batard
Can get more than one go? Yeah, again, with all due respect, Pete, come on. Definitely now is not the time. I mean, whatever.
Tony
Am I crazy, or does he look like white? Jalen hurts.
Stugotz
I got that deer in the headlights thing down.
Tony
Schefter has tweeted this morning the packers now are expected to try to work.
Dan Le Batard
Out a deal in the coming days to keep head coach Matt LaFleur.
Stugotz
May I ask a question?
Tony
Why?
Stugotz
He had Aaron Rodgers, right? They finally moved on from McCarthy. And if you remember, LaFleur, early on, there were a lot of growing pain pains in those playoffs, a lot of mistakes, a lot of second guessing. And you just said to yourself, okay, the packers are willing to live with these growing pains to get LaFleur to a point where he can take him to the next level. And here we are, six, seven years later, blowing three score leads, looking like an absolute mess. From an operational standpoint, if the growing pains were worth it, he'd not be screwing it up that badly. Because it's not just a team got hot and came back to you. The Chicago Bears have proved that time and time again this season. They can do that to you. Hell, they proved it in the exact same building against the exact same team. I'm talking about shooting your own damn team in the foot. I'm talking about bad timeouts. I'm talking about procedurals. I'm talking about undisciplined play like that. He looked like a rookie head coach, and that's inexplicable.
Dan Le Batard
What's usually the explanation there? And I've always thought it dismissive. I've always thought it too remedial. You can't analyze these games on a Sunday and just be eating popcorn and stuff. And when these guys prepare this way and say, oh, I would have done this, this and this, this and this differently. I hate the way we cover the NFL where every week somebody's shouting louder than the next person. No, that person choked. Do they deserve credit for winning Chicago or does do the packers deserve blame? I'd prefer to be pos. The Bears have the best team and quarterback that they've had in that city and it made Al Michaels shake in the booth. But Green Bay's got the better quarterback and Green. You believe that?
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Well, I mean if. If Jordan Love doesn't want to get caught from behind on Caleb Williams. I believe that through several quarters in, in that football game where I thought Chicago had without Micah Parsons, Chicago had some real line advantages. Did you. You saw what happened to the Chargers last night. Zaslow Harbaugh's going to get. When alts out Harbo Harbaugh is going to get Justin Herbert killed. He can't also lead them in rushing. You can't. You can't play that football. You can't. John Harbaugh is going to get Justin Herbert killed.
Mike Ryan
They had one sequence of Chargers and I think it was first and goal from like the nine. And the first three plays were Herbert runs.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, listen. Look. What was. Listen to this.
Mike Ryan
I couldn't believe.
Dan Le Batard
Just look. You want to see bloody Vrabel. He's got blood in his mouth. He's smiling because of what he's going to do to you. And this is what you're going to do in that game. Harbaugh on fourth and short inside the five. You're just going to try and run Justin Herbert into their face and then not get it and get scared and then kick a field goal next time. And that's the end of your point. You're in the red zone twice inside the five yard line. You got scared the second time and kicked it on fourth and two because you failed the first time because you had no offensive line because that's the worst offensive line in the entire playoffs by miles.
Mike Ryan
Their play on first down on that goal to go situation. It was roll Herbert outright and have him try and run over a linebacker.
Tony
Maybe that's because The Patriots had 30 pressures last night. 30.
Dan Le Batard
No, he's playing. He. Look, Justin Herbert. I want an intervention. He's it's unfair what they've done to him over the last nine games. Ask him to play a different game of football than even Josh Allen. Josh Allen is not getting it hit nearly as much as this dude. This would make Andrew Luck quit. Like, you can't keep asking that guy to play like that. That's not. That is Jim Harbaugh being a total lunatic and feeling like he can't trust anybody else except for his quarterback to be miles better than any athlete on the field.
Tony
He was hit 129 times this year going into yesterday. That's 18 more than any other.
Dan Le Batard
I don't think there's a tougher quarterback in the league. I feel bad for the way that dude gets hit on Sundays because he's big like Josh Allen, but not quite as big as Josh Allen.
Tony
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Stugotz
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Tony
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Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Yeah, I would be aggressive.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
I mean, what is it? What is that? I'm just saying that. Saying what?
Stugotz
That's me, Daniel Day. Yeah, I see that photo of Daniel Day Lewis looking like Lincoln before he's about to start filming Lincoln. And you know what I do amin stugats. I jerk off all over myself. That's what I do.
Dan Le Batard
Lincoln, who you outed the other day.
Stugotz
Don'T make this a rejoin.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. In all honesty, like they have no one else on that side of the ball. We're still talking about third down. Look for Keenan Allen.
Dan Le Batard
No. And Aronde Gadson's kid.
Mike Ryan
He's good. He's a good player.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, well then what'd you just do, fool?
Mike Ryan
Oh, he's young, he's a tight. He's not your go to be a.
Dan Le Batard
Good player and not be the pretty good wide receiver.
Stugotz
They have a lot of nice pieces. I think their season were completely. It was completely undone by injuries along the offensive line. Right.
Dan Le Batard
Well, this is what this sport does. It ravages people. And the end of that Philadelphia game. Okay, the idea, this. I'm not overreacting when I say what the 49ers have done over the last. I'm going to say, I don't know, seven years with whatever the parts are when their giant parts are always getting hurt. To go into Philadelphia and have no Bosa, no Fred Warner. And then Kittle's out early in the game and he's going to be gone for a bunch of time. And Brock Purdy missed games this season and I don't know how McCaffrey's still held together. I expect any game now for someone to just stitch his forearm to the side of his helmet. I don't know how that physical body holds together as everything else on that architecture gets ravaged. John lynch runs that franchise. They just gave the keys to Matt Ryan in Atlanta thinking, look, John lynch did it over here. But what the 49ers have done over the last 10 years without winning a Super bowl is one of the great achievements I've seen in this sport. And going into that place and winning after you got ravaged by Seattle, don't like their chances at all against Seattle, not even a little bit. But I'm done doubting that team because I can't believe that they can be that injured every year and still be at the top of the standings and be higher seated than the Rams, who are the best team I've seen this season and almost coughed it up against Carolina, the worst playoff team there's ever been by point differential. There's never been a worse team in the playoffs in Carolina, -69, 49ers. What they, what they've done to me, I know it's not going to stand out in the yesterday of it all. We're going to talk about Josh Allen being pushed 10 yards and whether that's actually football. And we're going to talk about not. It's not football.
Mike Ryan
Not.
Dan Le Batard
That's asinine.
Mike Ryan
They carried it.
Dan Le Batard
You can't have rugby break out in the middle of the football playoffs and be okay with games being decided last minute. Because. Because the guy's being carried. 10 years. All right, let's put Josh Allen a chariot. See if anyone can stop that, too.
Mike Ryan
And the referee called it a touchdown. He was down like the three. Rewatching.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but I mean, what are we doing?
Stugotz
Often asking myself that foreign.
Dan Le Batard
I'm going to get back to NFL stuff in a second. But Tony's made me happy. Look at him. He is beaming. That's as Cuban as you've ever looked right there. Everything that's happening right now, this right here is a snapshot. This is a work of art. Right?
Stugotz
It looks like a green screen.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, my God. Tony. That is the most colorful Tony photo there's ever been. All right, tell the people where you are and what the history of that place is.
Tony
Ah, Dan. I'm here just literally not even a mile down the road on Bird Road. And I'm here in front of Bird Bowl. 69 years of family fun.
Dan Le Batard
As you can see.
Tony
Billiards arcade and bowling and party. So this is Miami's inaugural, the first of its kind. Bowling. What do you call it? Bowling center, establishment, bowling alley. You can see how much I bowl. I don't.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, Well, I don't.
Tony
I don't really.
Dan Le Batard
You're doing a live. Okay, but you're. You're doing a live report.
Tony
It's raining on me right now.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Stugotz
No one goes there to bowl. They go there for the pitchers.
Dan Le Batard
You want to give people the history.
Tony
I actually have a funny story here, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Well, the history.
Tony
I'll give a personal anecdote really quick.
Dan Le Batard
Not just a personal anecdote. The history of the joint. That right there has been Cuban fun center for generations of Cubans.
Tony
Yeah. Did you not have enough money as a kid to go to Disney World? Great. Guess where we're doing the party. We're doing it at Bird bowl. It was $67 for you and 37 friends.
Dan Le Batard
That's right.
Tony
To go and bowl with shoes that had been worn for 60 years. I think the original shoes are probably still inside of Bird bowl right now.
Mike Ryan
Bumpers or no bumpers for me.
Tony
Bumpers, obviously. Bowler, what do you think I got? I got my own ball. I'm going to fling my own ball there like. Come on, dork sucker.
Stugotz
Eric the sucker Eric Dampier used to Play in those bowling shoes. The true story.
Tony
They had. Well, this is a different place, but over at the. At the bowling place in Dolphin Mall. Remember what it was called? Splits or whatever? They used to have Shaq's shoes, and they were like this big bowling shoes. They were like size 27. They're like this big. They were huge. So that was exciting. So one point, a quick personal anecdote. One time I was here, and they had. Let me be. How can I say this? Okay, so a. A alcohol beverage brand that is uniquely American, that has a very American figure as their mascot. They had one of those in here, a cardboard cutout, life size of him. And after, you know, us hanging out and having some of these pictures, I took the. The American Hero cutout with me home. I took it out of here and I put it in the car, and I haven't been back since. So I don't know if they have my picture on the wall saying, this guy cannot be here. I don't know if they saw me on the security footage. I don't think they have security footage here. But that American. This is the American icon. Life size cutout is in my house.
Dan Le Batard
This is the home that Mike Ryan, this. This place built. You did it, dude.
Stugotz
I got. I got a smile. Ear to ear. He's just. I got Madonna's this Used to be my Playground playing in my head. He's so close to the former Ultra Zone laser tag center that later became a sex shop.
Tony
Dude, it's right. It's Playthings. It's right there. Yeah, I was thinking about that place the other day. Mike, let's go ahead.
Dan Le Batard
Go over there next.
Tony
No, it's right there.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, no, no.
Tony
There it is right there.
Stugotz
Yeah, Used to be Ultra Zone.
Tony
Now it's thinking about that. I was thinking about that ultrasound, what it was called. I couldn't remember what it was called, but I remember going in there and it was a sick laser tag place, but then it closed down.
Stugotz
It was the best, in fact.
Tony
Not just like the Excalibur.
Stugotz
Yes, not too far from Excalibur was sick. Right next to you, there is a racquetball center that had a fat camp that I was a counselor at. Yes, Fit Kids.
Tony
I was also at Fit Kids for.
Dan Le Batard
A while down the street.
Tony
I know, exactly.
Dan Le Batard
So wait a minute. It was a bunch of fat Cuban kids.
Stugotz
It's a counselor.
Dan Le Batard
Come on.
Stugotz
Hey, come on. Let's get up. Let's go for a jog. And usually they just pull out a Game Boy advance And tell me to go screw myself.
Dan Le Batard
Tony. So you're gonna. You're gonna go to Columbus here at one point. But are you. Are you allowed to in Bird Bowl? Is it not open this early? It's early for bowling. Is it open?
Tony
It's. It's open. It's open, but I don't think we can go in there.
Dan Le Batard
Well, can you. Can you do it? Can you ask me do it? See, to me. Help me with this.
Mike Ryan
Because they agree with Dan's politics.
Dan Le Batard
Mike is saying that these are dangerous times. Mike is saying, let me.
Tony
Let me. Hold on. Let me say one thing. Let me say one thing. So. So we bring politics into sports a lot, okay? And we were politicizing the camera and people not wanting to answer about the hurricanes. The moment the camera shut off, three guys. As I was making the. Right after that, La Ventanito, to get in my car, three guys came up to me talking about the Canes, talking about Mendoza. And I said, guys, why didn't you come over here 30 seconds ago when I was doing the hit and giving coladas away? They're like, oh, because we don't like the cameras. We don't want to be around the cameras or whatever. So it's not a political thing. It's a camera thing. People don't want to be in front of cameras, and they see Sean McGill bringing up a camera in their face, and they like, who is this guy?
Dan Le Batard
No, but it's guys. But the problem is that they don't want to be seen by cameras because they're doing illicit things in our city. It's not because they're afraid of the government. It's because we've got people throughout our city who probably shouldn't be in our city, who are your neighbors and friends, and they're people that you care about, and they do important work around great people. But they might not people. But they might not be here legally. They're probably not. And so they don't want that scene on camera.
Tony
That. That may be true. And I'm gonna see if Sean can actually help me here. Sean, can you pan over and zoom into the front door of Bird Bowl? And, Dan, I want to see if you can see exactly what's on the front door. So the handle of the door, I don't know if you can see it perfectly. Right there, there's a placard that says, notice no firearms at the bowling center. No firearms, please.
Dan Le Batard
It's good and nice. That's correct, Sean.
Tony
That only happens. That only happens if there has Been firearms here before, many times where they had to put the placard of like.
Dan Le Batard
Hey, yeah, you don't want no gun.
Tony
You could.
Dan Le Batard
You don't want that at the bowling alley. All right, Tony.
Stugotz
Thank God this was America.
Dan Le Batard
I would like. This is where I would like to. As an American institution in the media fighting its way during these difficult times through our sports and political climate. Why are we not the show that can now go over to Play Things and see what's going on over there? Why can't you go back? Why can't you go do a live hit over there? Ask some people over there about the Hurricanes.
Mike Ryan
Does Play Things agree with Dan's about the Hurricanes?
Dan Le Batard
No, I don't want to talk mind. So wait a minute. This is what we're going to do. So you think you're in a dangerous area because no one within three miles of you agrees with my politics? You think you're. You think I'm putting you in more than three miles? You think I'm putting you in danger?
Tony
Trust me.
Dan Le Batard
Go to Florida.
Stugotz
Christian.
Tony
I don't think he's there anymore. I can ask for Coach. Coach O. And Coach Dandrino is also not there.
Stugotz
No, Pedrone's the one that's not there anymore.
Tony
I can go over to Play Things. Dan, again, that's more of a. A risque place.
Dan Le Batard
Somebody I'd like getting something for somebody.
Tony
Who'S not their wife. I don't know. People are not going to want to be on camera.
Dan Le Batard
Tony, the show I'd like to do. Look, if I were pushing you beyond the limits of normal production in a free media world that isn't as dangerous as this one, I think you should be asking someone inside of Play Things what they think of the Hurricanes and just doing a straight, um, interview with that person. That's what I would like.
Stugotz
We can.
Tony
Yeah, I can do that. I can do that. We were. Right now my producer Rose is inside begging us to be able to get inside of Bird Bowl. So when she comes out, I'll tell.
Dan Le Batard
Her that'll be a good thing. That'd be good television as well. I'd like to ask how old. I'd like put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Have the shoes at Bird bowl been there for 69 years? For 69. Were they worn. Were they worn by your grandparents? Because those are those. Those bowling shoes. We need to make cars out of those bowling shoes. Those bowling shoes cannot. Those bowling shoes. 69 years that bird bowl has been there standing strong, entertaining Cubans who got to this country and couldn't get quite. Get to Disney World. All right. Go over to plaything.
Stugotz
Yeah. Slash ultra zone.
Tony
All right, let's see if I'm going to try to get inside of Bird Bowl. If we can't get inside of Bird bowl, we're going to head over to play things and see what we can do there. But I will promise that we'll. We'll effort. Dano.
Dan Le Batard
Thank you. Let's get back to the NFL here quickly. Let's do a. I want him inside of playthings, not outside of playthings. Go like, you can't. We can't get into Columbus. We can't get into Bird Bowl. I mean, are we making television here?
Tony
I'm working on Columbus.
Stugotz
All right, Rose can wait outside. Rose can wait outside. We're not making her do this.
Dan Le Batard
HR okay.
Tony
I'm being told they can go into Bird Bowl.
Dan Le Batard
All right, well, let's do the candle. Let's do the next report then from inside of Bird Bowl. I'd like to hear you talk about the Canes and the enthusiasm about the Canes with the local community. Thank you, Tony. We'll check back in with you in a second. But it was again, a batshit crazy NFL weekend. And when I'm quoting there, this is the coolest as it really is because in the middle of all of these wonderful games, okay, Chicago taking back the division in that town with Al Michaels shaking, they want so badly to care at football, to be relevant at football. They care so much. And they've never had this quarterback and they've never had this coach, not Ditka, not anyone has the ability to both outsmart your coach in offensive ways that make the Lions collapse in the division when he's taken away. And Dan Campbell exposed as less than when he couldn't keep up with the plays. They've got the coach that's running off the field after top laying. What Aaron Rodgers has specifically done to the Bears historically with bleep. The packers bleep them because it's a new era in Chicago and they know they're going to be good for 10 years.
Mike Ryan
I like people getting upset with Ben Johnson's handshake with Matt LaFleur. I mean, he snuck it right in there. He had a big grin on his face. I mean, he essentially smacked his hand and then he ran off. I liked it. I liked it. The packers like, why, why, why can't the coaches not like each other? I like if the coach don't like each other, I like It. Ben Johnson doesn't like the Packers. I like it.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
Smirnoff.
Tony
Wow. You're on the money with Smirnoff. Chris, you know what goes great with Smirnoff? Yes, but I'm really talking about the game day fit. The style's got to match the vibe.
Dan Le Batard
Fair enough.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
Smirnoff.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
Pro linebacker TJ Watt and I'm back.
Tony
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Dan Le Batard
My second co design collection has new shorts and tanks that keep up with all my in season workouts. And their new Restore collection is a.
Stugotz
Game changer off the field too, because.
Tony
Even pro athletes like me need rest days.
Dan Le Batard
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Stugotz
Don LeBatard for weeks, months, even during the regular season, I wondered aloud what Kevin Stanlin did. And then about three weeks ago, it hit me. Stugats. He gives him one of these and he gives them one of those.
Mike Ryan
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.
Dan Le Batard
Zaslow, apparently you didn't take the cue and neither did I. I wasn't trying to be gratuitously television by using the F word there. It's just I'm quoting Ben Johnson as he's around the highest forms of the celebration that they've had in that city, I'm going to say, since the Cubs, I guess, but like the way this city cares about the football team is in sort of the Michael Jordan class of caring when the championships have never met. What the standard is for this tandem to bring that city hope as the Eagles fall at the finish line as they've got a defense that will ravage you, win the turnover battle. But a month ago, all of these games fell eberfluysian right before the second half heroics when they're doing things mathematically that they simply cannot recreate. You cannot win a Super bowl. Getting down 21 to 3 and trying to figure it all out in the second half after, after Ben Johnson goes into the locker room and does whatever he does with the Bunsen burners to figure out what he has to do in the second half to just play. Okay, Caleb, go out there and just run around on 4th and 9.
Mike Ryan
And now they're a home win away from the NFC championship. One home went away. Rams are favored. I'm really not sure why. I gotta be honest with you. One home went away from the NFC championship, which maybe they would host as well in Chicago.
Dan Le Batard
Well, it's because everyone thinks the Rams can win all three road games because you target Puka 18 times and.
Mike Ryan
But that game against Carolina was impressive to you.
Stugotz
I would love your thoughts on the Carolina game because their season was over after they beat the Dolphins and yet they were right there almost beating the Rams for a second time this season.
Mike Ryan
Pretty unimpressive.
Dan Le Batard
I did not think I would get to the point in life where Mike Ryan would look at me earnestly and say I want your thoughts on the Carolina Panthers. But thank you because I have publicly been the greatest national skeptic on all things Carolina Panthers this season. Again, I declared their season done after they beat the Dolphins just because don't make me watch that team all season. But it's hard to reconcile that with the both times the Rams played them. The Rams, who I think are the best team in football, five one score games. They've lost in total freak fashion. All of it like allowing a special teams touchdown, a defensive touchdown. McVeigh hires, fires his special teams coach after one of the losses. Like the Rams should be a one seed at home. They were better than Seattle this season. But now, and this is what you risk, 37 year old quarterback or not, Stafford throwing fingers is a problem. Like he wasn't the same in the second half. They they have in Pukinakua the same thing they had with Cooper Cup. You cannot stop it all season. We'll throw to it 20 times. It'll never be something that you can stop. It's too accurate. There's nothing that you can do. But against Carolina, the worst team in the history of the playoffs by point differential, they come out exactly the way that I thought it would go the entire game and Carolina stays in it and the Rams do dumb stuff and at the end of the game they need Stafford to be great. And he is because he's better equipped to be great at the end of these games that are all going to be closed than any of them. Like it's weird to me Zaslow, to watch these games and these quarterbacks when they're all trying to stay being kept within 150 yards and everybody's going for it on fourth down. To have all of the games in that league be that close at the end where the team trailing at the two minute warning in the first three games, won all three of the games, came back to save its season after the two minute warning. It's because of the precision of people not like Trevor Lawrence who had 59 seconds to win that game. And they know how to get down the field to get the 40 yards you need so that you can get into field goal range. Because there's not a human beating that can actually guard Parkinson. Like that's, that's not Devonte Adams, that's not even Pukinakua. Like if I take a 6, 6 tight end and I just throw it to him over in that place, there's not a cornerback that's going to be able to, to keep up with something like that.
Mike Ryan
You're noticing now right where all of these teams, first of all, everyone goes for fourth down. It's so strange to see. But you're noticing now where all of these teams, it's the fourth quarter, several minutes left, whatever it is, they're all afraid to settle for field goals to give them the lead. They're all afraid. They all know we have to score touchdowns.
Dan Le Batard
Is it not fair criticism to do what I just did with the Chargers and the Patriots to say to you early in that game, he's inside the five yard line on fourth down, he goes for it. He decides to throw a pass. He does not trust his offensive line. Harbaugh fails. It's a game that's clearly going to be won by the defense or not at all. Clearly because of the problems that again, the Chargers were not fielding a professional offensive line yesterday. It was the worst in the playoffs by miles. I believe that Harbaugh should be indicted for threat for manslaughter. An attempt at manslaughter for trying to kill Justin Herbert by making him play behind that offensive line without awe for the last eight games. It's an incompetence. You cannot do that to Justin Herbert. But in that game, inside the five yard line, Herbert couldn't get in even though he's going to be their leading rusher for like five of the last six weeks. Again, asinine. Asinine that you're asking Justin Herbert to change his game because you can't run the ball. You don't have an offensive line, you don't have any. Harbaugh answers for just run a sweep. Justin run. Away run. That's what the Charger offense was at the end of another season that collapses at the finish line. Justin run. But fourth and short, you fail and then the next time you get inside the five, fourth and short and you kick it and you kick it and way to go Harbaugh. Like you got, you got A chance at touchdowns. You got to go for touchdowns. But if you're not going to go for touchdowns, don't tell me you're going for touchdowns at the beginning. And then the second time you get close, I'll take the tie 3. 3. And then at the end of the game, Vrabel's laughing with blood in his mouth because he's doing it differently than you are. It's crazy how fast this stuff happens in that sport, isn't it? How fast. How fast lafleur gets old. It's crazy to me what you saw over the last week of NFL football. That again begins with John Harbaugh now available to everybody. Right? I'm reading the reports. Harbaugh will decide whether he wants to come to teams or whether he's going to have him to Baltimore because he's got.
Mike Ryan
I keep seeing the Dolphins are in play. I don't believe it.
Tony
They're interviewing him.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, why don't you believe it?
Mike Ryan
I mean, maybe. Maybe Stephen Ross was listening to me. Maybe he's going to do my thing. Give him $50 million.
Dan Le Batard
What. But why don't you believe. What are you.
Mike Ryan
How is this a good job for a. For a big time coach? For not a first, not someone going for one out of 32. How is this a good job?
Dan Le Batard
All the power and money.
Mike Ryan
Well, where's the power? They just hired a gm.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, but you tell the GM that there's going to be rules and the GM is going to act as a. You can allow.
Mike Ryan
Meaning Steven Ross tells the gm, you're.
Dan Le Batard
Saying, well, but wait a minute. What I'm saying is that if you really want somebody and you have no other options that don't improve your credibility from one day to the other, because it would be Jim Harbaugh or bust here. If all you're going to do is famous guy who stabilizes your franchise so that people can yawn and say, okay, stable, stable, you won the off season.
Mike Ryan
I bet they're going to look at McCarthy too.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, but, I mean, that's a waste of time.
Mike Ryan
I agree.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, but, but Harb. Wait a minute. What's the difference. What's the difference between McCarthy?
Mike Ryan
McCarthy's a meatball. He. He is not a good coach. I mean, he'll stabilize your franchise for sure. And I think that's why the Dolphins will look at him. But you're not winning anything.
Dan Le Batard
All right, put it on the poll at LeBatard. Is McCarthy a meatball? I don't understand what you're doing there. I don't really? Oh, Tony's at the bowling alley now. I wanted to make a point about the Harbaughs here, the first family of football, as John takes on, like, a royal quality, because everybody wants whatever the stability is of that guy will come here.
Mike Ryan
Plenty of time for that.
Dan Le Batard
Plenty of time for what?
Tony
To get to the Harbaugh stuff, Tony.
Dan Le Batard
Timely. Okay, well, you go ahead and take the show from here, then.
Tony
Well, you said to govern it in Chris's defense.
Dan Le Batard
I said to govern it, though, when I thought it was the three hits ago and we were trying. I said to govern it as it related to Zaslo. And 10 minutes before, we got a local hour, and I'm looking up, and there are three minutes left, and no one's governed it.
Mike Ryan
It's true.
Dan Le Batard
Being told they're going to let him actually bowl, so.
Stugotz
All right.
Dan Le Batard
So, Tony, do me this favor. So, Tony, this is what I would like for you now to do for us, because some of the benefits of entertainment television have eluded you this morning. I would like for you to bowl right now while doing your top five. I want your top five while bowling. I want you to do both things at the same time. And we're gonna do Tony's top five. Did I just hear Rose laugh?
Tony
Okay. Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
Yes.
Tony
Because she understands how many hands I need and how many hands I have, and I need three hands, but I only have two, so. But we can do it, Dan.
Stugotz
That's fine.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, so let me know when you're ready. If you. If you said you can bowl, I'd like to see how you do now while doing your top five. So let's do this.
Tony
I will remind you. When was the last time you bowled? Because, remember, I gotta throw the ball, then the pins have to fall. Then the ball has to be returned to me to then hit a spare to then be able to do the same thing again. So it's gonna take a little bit of time.
Dan Le Batard
That's fine. I've got five minutes. So give me a take. Roll. Roll the ball five. Do it five times.
Tony
Okay, perfect. You ready for number for number five? No Wall alive. Just straight number five.
Dan Le Batard
Is anyone there at bird ball number five? Is anyone there?
Tony
There's a nice family. There's a nice family with a young kid who's bowling right now. Again, we don't have to show the kids bowling alley. Plus, they're expanding. Plus they're expanding thanks to Dion the GM here, they're actually going to get another, like, 20 lanes.
Mike Ryan
This why there's all those open Lanes.
Tony
And a mini golf. It's. It's incredible.
Dan Le Batard
I love that. Bird bowl is only expanding here as Columbus doesn't let us get in there. And. And. And now look at us. We're in the middle of another Cuban Miami icon. What are you shaking your head about, Mike?
Tony
Thank you.
Stugotz
The bowling alley would be a lot more popping on a Monday at 10am.
Tony
And the bowling center.
Dan Le Batard
All right, Tony, go ahead.
Tony
All right, number five. It's a look in the mirror game for Philly. Look in the mirror because something is deathly wrong. Deathly wrong with your organization, with your. That offense should not be scoring the way that they are. That defense is obviously very good, missing some key pieces throughout the season, but it's a look in the mirror game looking at you, Sirianna. You got to figure it out. All right, here we go.
Dan Le Batard
Okay. You put it down, and I'll. I'll come after you Here with Zazlov.
Tony
I don't like putting my fingers in the hole, so I'm gonna. I'm gonna do it kind of caveman style with just gripping the ball like. You got to put the fingers in the hole.
Dan Le Batard
You got. What do you mean? No, you got to put your fingers in the hole. No, he's not doing it.
Tony
I don't like. I don't like doing that. Oh, okay. You're gonna also gonna put a cut on it.
Dan Le Batard
That's not even bowling if you don't put your. Wait a minute. Not called a cut, but there are.
Stugotz
Some people that do that.
Dan Le Batard
This.
Tony
No, it's a spin.
Dan Le Batard
It's a spin. But he's. Just.
Stugotz
Tell my man what's up.
Dan Le Batard
It's pretty good.
Stugotz
All right.
Tony
Wow.
Dan Le Batard
That's a.
Tony
That's a very difficult shot. Middle and a two corner pin.
Stugotz
Throw it the same way.
Tony
You went Brooklyn side, huh?
Mike Ryan
Good at all.
Dan Le Batard
Jesus. That you have no chance of picking that up. Do you realize the viral moment that will become if you're able to pick up.
Tony
This guy knows we got some canes over here.
Dan Le Batard
He was listening. There it is. Running over with the Bird Bowl. Get your friends, get your fans.
Tony
Everybody go to Bird bowl right now.
Dan Le Batard
Let's go. Tell your friends. Get everybody. Let's make it a, um, party over there. That guy showed up.
Tony
Yeah. Was playing, and then he saw he's.
Dan Le Batard
The only one, so he's like, all right, I'm leaving.
Stugotz
It's whoosh, whoosh.
Dan Le Batard
Don't.
Tony
That.
Dan Le Batard
That's.
Tony
That's.
Stugotz
I don't.
Tony
I don't like that.
Stugotz
It's whoosh.
Tony
I'M a hoo hoo kind of guy. I'm a who kind of guy. I don't care what you say. All right, here, Rose, hold this, Rose, hold this.
Stugotz
Do.
Tony
Do your job, Rose. Here you go.
Dan Le Batard
Do your job, Rose.
Stugotz
We're a wind event. It's a whoosh, whoosh.
Mike Ryan
What's the strategy? Are you gonna try to get the middle pin? Like what are you gonna do here?
Tony
I'm gonna try to throw it. How about that sucker?
Dan Le Batard
Well, but wait a minute. Don't we need number four first?
Tony
Yep, I was about to say it. Dan. Number four. Kittle. George Kittle. We'll see you in Valhalla, brother. Maybe he throws a ball every two. Now we're gonna keep doing this, okay?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, you loser.
Tony
Man, he almost had that one loser.
Mike Ryan
He had the right idea in the right spot. Right idea.
Tony
What do you expect? I threw a dime. I threw a dot right between the.
Stugotz
Corner and the safety.
Dan Le Batard
How do.
Tony
How do you like that?
Dan Le Batard
So we still have three pins that are up. Are you going to keep trying to knock those down? Okay, that's it. You're going to just bang through the rest.
Tony
How it works? Every two shots it resets on new frame.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, I was hoping they would.
Tony
25 years.
Dan Le Batard
I was hoping they would rejigger it just for our bit.
Stugotz
It's been a while since you bought.
Tony
Like you can radio the back. Like they can set pins.
Dan Le Batard
All right, so set it up the way it was and I want you to take four shots at that same pin combination. I want. I want to see if I can have the viral.
Tony
I can't do that. We have a full rack of pins and we're on number three, Caleb Williams. Sir, you have my attention.
Stugotz
No, let's get a strike here.
Dan Le Batard
Caleb. Caleb Williams. Sir, you have my attention.
Tony
I mean, it's. It was Brooklyn, but we'll count it.
Stugotz
It was Brooklyn.
Dan Le Batard
All right, Chris, what I want you to set up is your dad was telling me the other day that he bowls about a 150. Set him up against Tony and let's see if Tony bowling this way can knock out your dad. Number two, Tony. I think you can number. I think you can do it. Just this way. Number two.
Tony
Playoff touchdowns, Justin Herbert, two, Juwan Jennings, two. It's seems like the question between Tua and Herbert was neither.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, no, you can't do that to Herbert.
Stugotz
Let's get another strike. It's a big week.
Tony
Of course I can of.
Dan Le Batard
They're terrible.
Tony
All right, Tony, this is big.
Dan Le Batard
I think I do want him Bowling against your dad.
Mike Ryan
Almost a.
Stugotz
We got an easy spare, though.
Dan Le Batard
I would take my dad.
Stugotz
Set the table nicely for the spare.
Tony
Exactly right. I just need to kit. I need to hit in the middle.
Dan Le Batard
And have it spin out.
Tony
Kick out the other one.
Stugotz
No, that was Tristan Island.
Dan Le Batard
That was not setting the table. Put it on the pole at Levitar. Show is leaving seven pins up. Setting it up nicely.
Tony
Seven pins. Three guys.
Stugotz
I got fooled. I got fooled.
Tony
There's.
Stugotz
There's.
Tony
There's four pins there. Hey, you hit it. You. You throw your nice strike ball here.
Dan Le Batard
That.
Tony
Brooklyn side. You can get this strike. I mean, this spare. What does that mean?
Stugotz
Listen, what about Hell's Kitchen?
Dan Le Batard
I'm sorry. I was distracted by the fuzzy. My eyesight and the fuzzy camera work at the end there. I thought seven pins were remaining. Number two.
Tony
Oh, that was number two, Dan.
Stugotz
Number one.
Tony
Picking up a QB and carrying him 10 yards into the end zone should be a crime punishable by the electric chair.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, wow. Okay. I'm ratcheting it up a little, too.
Tony
Not even. Not even suspending the push torch. Push.
Dan Le Batard
No, no.
Tony
Electric chair. You're the guard that picks up Josh allen and goes 10 yards and knocks out the Jags. Electric chair. That guy in the background. Josh Allen standing ominously. Electric chair. Maybe Pat's fan right here. Big Pat's fan. He's got a Pat's hat on. This guy says, we love Drake May, baby. Let's go. Drake May. Drake May. Let's go.
Dan Le Batard
That's not football. What Buffalo did at the end of that football game to win. The football game is un American. And while not punishable by the electric chair, it's not for football.
Tony
Again. I. I think if you put that on the pole, you could probably get a.
Dan Le Batard
Electric chair is too strong now.
Tony
We're changing things.
Dan Le Batard
It's too. It's too strong, Tony. Electric chair is too strong.
Tony
Here we go. Brooklyn side. Brooklyn side. Spare. There we go.
Dan Le Batard
Do you think he'd beat your dad, Chris?
Tony
No. Distracting seems pretty awful, if I'm being honest. You've got this, Sean. That was a. That was a personal foul, by the way. That was a personal foul. Sean McGill. Almost broke my arm on the. On the way back.
Dan Le Batard
All right. A bunch of. All right, go. All right. Go to the sex shop. Sex shop. Go to the sex shop. All right. Former.
Tony
Okay. I know Sean McGill's in on that. Fingers and holes.
Date: January 12, 2026
Broadcasting from downtown Miami, Dan, Stugotz, and company deliver another distinctly South Florida-flavored Big Suey—diving headfirst into the latest NFL chaos, the evolution of TV sports broadcasters, and a live field report from one of Miami's cult classic venues: Bird Bowl. What follows is the usual blend: energetic (sometimes chaotic) sports debate, irreverent Miami nostalgia, random local digressions, and pure unscripted mayhem.
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For anyone who missed the episode: Expect wild NFL takes, Miami nostalgia, and the spectacle of a man attempting to bowl (poorly) while multitasking on live radio. It’s the Dan Le Batard Show distilled—if you love the show’s style, this is one not to miss.