The Big Suey: The Celebrity Couple Everyone's Talking About (feat. Dianna Russini)

Summary

Summary of "The Big Suey: The Celebrity Couple Everyone's Talking About" (feat. Dianna Russini) The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: August 12, 2025

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1. Introduction to the Episode

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz are joined by special guest Dianna Russini, a senior NFL insider and host of the Scoop City podcast. The episode primarily delves into the dynamics of high-profile celebrity relationships and transitions into an in-depth discussion about current NFL quarterbacks and team strategies.

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2. Celebrity Relationships: A Closer Look

Main Discussion: Taylor Swift's New Relationship

The episode kicks off with excitement surrounding Taylor Swift's appearance on the New Heights podcast with her boyfriend. Dianna Russini expresses her anticipation:

Dianna Russini (01:49): "I'm very excited to see them together and to dissect every single word and piece of body language to try to figure out whether or not they're going to get engaged today, tomorrow, next week."

She clarifies her position on celebrity relationships, stating she isn't overly obsessed but appreciates drama-free and genuine partnerships:

Dianna Russini (02:35): "There are other celebrity couples I feel like I stalk a little bit more. There's... they just seem great and happy and they're not very dramatic."

Insights on Celebrity Couple Dynamics

Dianna shares her preferences in celebrity couples, highlighting those who exhibit a "cat and mouse" dynamic, which she finds relatable due to her own experiences:

Dianna Russini (03:28): "I prefer couples trying to kill each other because that's what I relate to. Like, we fight a lot in this house."

She contrasts this with more "lovey-dovey" relationships, which she finds less appealing.

Discussion on Justin Bieber and Haley's Relationship

The conversation shifts to Justin Bieber and his wife Haley:

Dianna Russini (02:48): "I like to see what's going on with Justin Bieber and his wife a lot. They're always fighting, but then he writes love songs for her."

Dianna analyzes the power dynamics within their relationship, noting Haley's increased financial independence and its impact:

Dianna Russini (03:59): "I think she plays it right. I don't think she's one of these wives."

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3. Transition to NFL Quarterbacks and Team Strategies

Shador Sanders vs. Cameron Ward

Dianna shifts the focus to NFL quarterbacks, particularly discussing Shador Sanders and Cameron Ward:

Dianna Russini (18:02): "One was how different the league feels about Shador Sanders' performance compared to the rest of us."

She elaborates on the contrasting perceptions of Shador within the league versus his enthusiasm among dedicated followers:

Dianna Russini (19:28): "I think Shador Sanders stays on the depth chart in the spot he's in right now. I don't foresee him moving up anywhere."

Cameron Ward's Development

The conversation delves into Cameron Ward's potential and the lack of media attention compared to high-profile quarterbacks:

Dianna Russini (26:52): "He has to earn being the universal Cam, and that has a long way to go for Cameron Ward."

Dianna emphasizes Tennessee Titans' situation and the importance of establishing team identity:

Dianna Russini (29:02): "I think this is an opportunity for Tennessee to get back on the map because there's a reason we're not paying attention, because we're not really sure what they are."

Impact of Coaching and Team Dynamics

The role of coaching in developing quarterbacks is highlighted, with references to Mike Vrabel and Aaron Glenn:

Dianna Russini (20:52): "Tennessee is really happy with where he's at in terms of his development and this transition period."

She also touches upon the New York Jets' coaching changes and their implications:

Dianna Russini (32:26): "I don't think this is going to be some tremendous year for the New York Jets. No way. But I do love the fact that this feels like this could be a good building block towards something in the future."

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4. Personal Anecdotes and Humorous Exchanges

Parenting Stories and Home Life

Dianna shares humorous anecdotes about her children’s antics, illustrating relatable parenting moments:

Dianna Russini (06:25): "They walk out the front door right to my right here all the time to tell me that they're leaving... They are scared of shadows."

Light-Hearted Banter on Appearance and Health

The hosts engage in playful teasing about Dianna's appearance during the interview, leading to light-hearted jokes about health and pregnancy:

Diana Rossini (40:25): "I have lipstick on or I brush my hair because I don't know, I'm at work. But I feel like the cool thing now is to, like, be sloppy."

Diana Russini (42:16): "I used to get this when I was pregnant."

These exchanges add a layer of humor and camaraderie to the episode, making the discussion engaging and personable.

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5. Concluding Remarks and Final Discussions

Reflection on Past NFL Events

The hosts reflect on previous NFL moments, including Aaron Rodgers' injury and its impact on the New York Jets:

Dan Le Batard (40:13): "Because the idea of it was perfect. And I thought they did the right thing back. I mean, obviously they did not based on what we saw. But we did not know he was going to get hurt."

Future Predictions and Speculations

The discussion concludes with speculative talks about potential quarterback moves and team strategies for the upcoming season:

Diana Russini (37:54): "He's the most... available because we know he doesn't want to be there."

Dan Le Batard (39:11): "I would feel good about it. I would think the only reason I asked the record is the jets would only do that if they felt like they had a chance to make it to the playoffs."

Closing Banter

The episode wraps up with humorous exchanges about personal experiences during the interview, maintaining a light-hearted tone until the very end.

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Key Takeaways

• Celebrity Relationships: Dianna Russini provides insightful commentary on the dynamics of high-profile couples, emphasizing authenticity and relatable conflict.

• NFL Quarterbacks: In-depth analysis of players like Shador Sanders and Cameron Ward highlights the complexities of team dynamics and media perceptions in professional football.

• Coaching Influence: The role of coaching in developing player potential is underscored, with specific references to current NFL coaching strategies.

• Personal Connection: The hosts' humorous and personal anecdotes foster a relatable and engaging atmosphere, enriching the overall discussion.

This episode seamlessly blends discussions on celebrity culture with expert NFL analysis, offering listeners a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of both worlds.

Transcript

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[Stugotz]

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show.

[Diana Rossini]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.

[Stugotz]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've done it.

[Diana Rossini]

And now here's the marching man to.

[Stugotz]

Nowhere Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Chris Cody]

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats. We're bringing out the big guns today.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yep.

[Mike Ryan]

We know the big story in. In the sports world is Taylor Swift is gonna be on with with her boyfriend.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yep.

[Diana Rossini]

And.

[Mike Ryan]

And her boyfriend in law. Is that what we do? Like a brother? Like, how does that go?

[Dan LeBatard]

Future brother in law? I don't know. Yeah, like, how does that go, boyfriend's brother?

[Mike Ryan]

Bring out the big guns. We started out the show today. We broke Stu Gotts out of the box. And we are also bringing on Diana Rossini, senior NFL insider for the athletic host of Scoop City podcast. Diana, how, how excited are you for Taylor Swift's appearance on the New Heights podcast? Is this taking over all of your times is consuming your thoughts today?

[Diana Rossini]

I'm very excited to see them together and to dissect every single word and piece of body language to try to figure out whether or not they're going to get engaged Today, tomorrow, next week, However, I love Taylor Swift. I love Travis Kelsey. I'm not obsessed with their relationship though. Like, I don't. I'm not. There are other celebrity couples I feel like I stalk a little bit more. There's. They just seem great and happy and they're not very dramatic. So I think it's going to be great, though. I want to see how Jason talks to her. Like, what, what's their relationship like? Because Travis is one thing, but to me, I feel like Jason's just like this Philly guy now with the family looking at his brother like, is this real life? You know, is this real?

[Dan LeBatard]

Right?

[Diana Rossini]

So that's That's. I'm looking forward, but that. This is. Congrats to them. This is. This is going to be the most listened to watched podcast after this one today.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who are we stalking, by the way? Celebrity couples. Yeah, like, who are you stalking?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, that's a good one. So I like to see what's going on with Justin Bieber and his wife a lot. They're always fighting, but then they write these. Then he writes, like, love songs for her, and then she's making all this money. Like, I like couples like JFK Jr. And Carolyn Bessette. Remember, this is really dating me. I remember as a kid loving watching them, seeing the videos of them, like, fighting in the park. Apparently, I'm not for love. I. I prefer couples trying to kill each other because that's what I relate to. Like, we fight a lot in this house. So I think those are the type of couples I gravitate towards. The lovey dovey ones aren't really my style.

[Unknown]

Dana, how do you think things have changed in Justin and Haley's relationship? Because that power dynamic now seems like it's different than it was before, right? Because he was the star. She was just Stephen Baldwin's son or daughter for a little bit, but he was, like, the big catch. And then she has, like, her cosmetic line or whatever, and then that sells for like a billion dollars. So now she's the breadwinner. And he's kind of fallen off a little bit. He had to sell his catalog, so he made a ton of money. But still seems like she's the one that's kind of like in the power in the relationship now. Do you think that's impacted them?

[Stugotz]

Great question.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, that's good. I'm 42, with two kids, with a great job. Why do I know so much about this? The question for the team here should be, can you guys break down the Bengals defense the way that was just laid out in terms of the relationship between Justin and Haley? Because, I mean, you didn't even take a beat. You had no notes. You know what I like about their relationship? It's very cat and mouse. Like, usually after you get married, the jig is up. It's like, I've seen it all. We've done it all. I like you. Sometimes I hate you. Most of the time, there's no chase. They seem like they're still chasing one another, which is probably what makes it work. But I don't think the money, like, I get what you're saying about the power dynamic because she's a Billionaire now because she sold that skincare makeup line. I don't think he cares about the money. I think, I think she plays it right. I don't think she's one of these wives. I see this in football. So this, we can actually connect this. I think there's something to the hard to get relationships when your partner is the center of attention at all times. Like they need something to keep their interest. And if you're just like another fan to them, I think that's when you get walked all over. So, you know, my husband does it to me. He's so mean to me on purpose because he's like, oh, you know, a couple guys think you're cute. I don't think you're that cute. You look terrible. You know, he always keeps me in check that way.

[Dan LeBatard]

You need that style. Yeah, you need it, right?

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, me. It's funny, the first. My husband's met a lot of people in football and you know, if we have lunch or dinner with a coach or something, I always get the same thing afterwards, which is like, your husband's great, which he is. He's a really kind person. But my God, you married an ass. And it's perfect. Perfect for you. Like, he knows how to just be mean to me, to control it. And it drives me nuts. But obviously it's the medicine that I take.

[Stugotz]

Diana, let's see if you can find a football angle to this one. You mentioned having two kids. I want to paint a scenario for you because our host today, Jonathan Zaslow, has a 16 year old who last night decided they had this fight with his parents. Oh, if this is how you're going to be, get out of here. And, and what did the 16 year old do? He got out of here. He left and he got in his car. Zaslow's home probably went to Taco Bell and then he didn't come back until 3 in the morning. Diana.

[Mike Ryan]

And that's not shows.

[Stugotz]

1Am sorry, 1am 1am which is still, what, four hours away. And Zaslow. Neither Zaslow or his wife, White Tamara, were sitting on the couch waiting for his son. When they got home, they were just in bed and just checked the Life360 when they got up. So I'm just curious how you would have played that scenario if one of your children just decided up and go and take your car.

[Diana Rossini]

They, they do do that. They're four and two. They walk out the front door right to my right here all the time to tell me that they're leaving and I'm not kidding, Mikey. My old, my four year old will walk to the end of the little path and go, oh my God, there's a ghost. And run back in. They are so, they're like scared of shadows.

[Stugotz]

Are you sure it's not a real ghost though? Because kids can see things.

[Diana Rossini]

I know. I mean, but they talk a bit. Those boys talk a big game about wanting to leave here. The same two boys who literally need me to wipe them. So they're not built to live out in the wild. And I don't think his 16 year old is either. And I think that's the reality. I think we all. I was like, weren't you guys like that? I always wanted to run away from my parents, but then when I realized I had no money or food or phone, I was like, okay, I'll stay.

[Stugotz]

I didn't know how to cook. Where am I going to go?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, hold on a second. Dinah, your phone is beeped. Is there news? No, no, it's okay.

[Diana Rossini]

You guys remember the Salah thing last year?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, yeah. Do we? Yes.

[Diana Rossini]

That was awful.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right? What happened here?

[Mike Ryan]

Anything break it right here, let us know.

[Diana Rossini]

Nah, these are just group chats of.

[Stugotz]

People pick up cauliflower for dinner. You got to style those groups.

[Mike Ryan]

What's your favorite group chat these days?

[Diana Rossini]

What's the group chat conversation?

[Mike Ryan]

Like, what's your favorite chat that you have these days?

[Diana Rossini]

I would say the Scoop City group chat is pretty good because it's. Sometimes I wish I could take the Scoop City podcast group chat and put that on the show because everyone is just exactly who they are talking about football. Like those are the realest opinions and thoughts and ideas. I'd say my other most, my most popular one, the one that goes off the most is between Mike Silver, Jeff Darlington and I. That one's hot. We like to do this thing, that.

[Stugotz]

Darlington, the golf and tennis guy dude, right.

[Diana Rossini]

Who is he now? He went from like Mr. Football to now if there's anything big at the highest level with the richest people, Jeff's on my screen.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, he got wider.

[Diana Rossini]

He, he is the widest person I know, which is why he fits so perfectly in those environments. And he's so good at them. And he, he loves it. I, I, I text him constantly while he's at these events. Like, gosh, I am so bored watching you right now. How are you doing this? And he's like, oh my gosh, I met this while I'm doing this. But yeah, we do this thing over our group chat where we like to play pr People, meaning whatever situations going on in football, sports, world life, Hollywood celebrities. Of, okay, they made this mistake. How would you react to it? And we do it constantly. Of, you know, let's try to think of something right now. Is there. What, what. What's out there right now that's getting a lot of attention, that you're like.

[Chris Cody]

Jador Sanders after the game confronting Tony Grossi.

[Unknown]

Legendary Tony Grossi.

[Diana Rossini]

Good, good. Okay. So usually the way would go is someone would send the clip and be like, okay, you're doing what next if you're Tony, you're doing next. What next if you're Cleveland? I actually think Tony did a good job. Right. Tony just came. I think he talked about it, right? Where he just was like, hey, I went up to him and we talked it out. And those situations are so weird when you, when you have conflict with the player and people can see it because they don't really understand what's going on. And I think Tony tried to paint a picture of it. I was just glad that happened because the only thing that was cool, or at least that I thought was cool in Cleveland up to up until this point was Mary Kay Cabot at that speech at the hall of Fame with her absolute zinger to Bill Belichick. Do you guys hear that?

[Unknown]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

I didn't know Mary had that in her like that. That was real. Did you, didn't you think that was well stood. Did you hear it?

[Dan LeBatard]

I did not hear it, no.

[Diana Rossini]

Okay, so Mary K. Cavit is like the veteran beat reporter of the Cleveland Browns, right? So she's very good. Very good.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Diana Rossini]

She's all Cleveland all the time. So she's accepting her hall of Fame award at the hall of Fame in Canton, as I think she was like sportswriter, you know, whatever you get inducted, something I obviously have, will never have because I don't even know what it's called. So she was up there just talking about how when she was a young reporter, you know, Bill would call her Belichick and, you know, kind of cuss her out and get go. You know, basically just he was really hard on her. And her response to it was like, you know, I sure hope you talk to the men like this. You know, so she says fast forward a few years later, she, you know, she's a 28 year old reporter covering the Browns and she realized that the problem with her and Bill Belichick had nothing to do with the fact that she was a woman. It had to do with the fact that he couldn't connect to her. Because she was 28. She was too old.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's very good. By the way. It's the Bill Nunn Award, is what you were looking for.

[Diana Rossini]

Thanks. Is that. I mean, I know I should know that as a journalist that works at the Athletic, which is owned by the New York Times.

[Stugotz]

You should know, Diana. Stu looked that up all by himself.

[Dan LeBatard]

I did.

[Stugotz]

Nobody said him that.

[Dan LeBatard]

I had no idea.

[Diana Rossini]

I figured he would know. So thank you for Googling that for me.

[Mike Ryan]

Diana.

[Diana Rossini]

What. What.

[Mike Ryan]

What's the last time, you know, like, Tony Grossi there. What's the last time you've been confronted? I mean, obviously, you know, everyone remembers the Aaron Rodgers thing, but Aaron Rodgers didn't actually confront you face to face. Like, when's the last. Unless I don't know about it.

[Diana Rossini]

I tried to talk to Aaron at Jets. I asked for some time with him, actually, and he had no interest. He walked away from me. That happened a lot. Like, when's the last time I had a conflict with the player? And we had a talk about it. Yeah. Debo Samuel, who was amazing afterwards, I.

[Stugotz]

That might be the scariest name to do a face to face with. Debo.

[Mike Ryan]

Debo wants to talk.

[Diana Rossini]

I'm not afraid of confrontation, which I think you guys know that about me, so I'm okay having those. I've had more with coaches. Right. Because most of them are paranoid and annoyed if anything gets out. You guys remember, I think it was two years ago or a year ago I was at. I think I talked about on the show where I was at the Senior bowl. And at the time, Mike Vrabel had. He. He didn't have a job. He had gotten fired from the Titans. And I talked to a few people around the league, general managers who are making decisions for head coaches about the hiring process, what people look for. And I had a few people say that, like, Mike can be very intimidating in these meetings. And he's big. Like, he's a huge human being, and he's intimidating. Everything about him is intimidating. And so I think the headline. The next day I got aggregated. You know how much we love that. That I called him fat or that I said Mike Vrabel was too big to get a job was like. I think the New York Post ran with it. It was terrible. And so he called me, and that was not great. That was. That was a hard one because I didn't. It wasn't my fault. Right. But I had to say sorry, even though it was like a head coach doesn't want to hear that. You were aggregated, right? They're just like, figure it out. Don't, don't be so stupid and share stuff like that. But I was trying to make a point of hey, maybe you don't have a job because you're too big, because that's what people are saying. But. But otherwise they haven't been too bad.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard.

[Diana Rossini]

Daddy says you're doing a live show on the draft. Rick, Is it Channel 7 Stugats those girls on Eyewitness News. They look good. Their mothers. They look good though.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.

[Mike Ryan]

Diana. Most interesting thing in preseason week number.

[Diana Rossini]

One was what how different the league feels about Shador Sanders performance compared to the rest of us.

[Dan LeBatard]

Funny.

[Diana Rossini]

Chase, my colleague on Scoop City, quarterback, 14 years, studies film like a lunatic. He's like an Orlovsky. Loves it. Like just, just consumes this stuff. And he was on the show with us in today's episode talking about it and he just really liked the things that he was doing. Yet when I talk to people around the league, I don't get as much enthusiasm about what they saw from Shador playing the actual position. Just things that he still has to get better at, which is fine for a fifth round pick a rookie quarterback, but I think it may have been heightened a bit just because I think there's a really big group of people that like Shador, they want to see him show the world that he deserves to be the starting quarterback in Cleveland, deserves to beat out Joe Flacco. But a lot of people shared with me just, you know, he has a good arm, he's got great poise, good plays with his legs, but just, you know, poor ball security in the pocket. Just a couple of those things. So I want to see if this ever levels out that that's what I want to see on Saturday when they play the Eagles. The Browns are playing at the link at one to just see if. If Shador takes this next step or if everyone sees the way I think people that are studying this stuff see it.

[Mike Ryan]

How much of that reaction from people around the league is the same guys who passed on him through four rounds, which was everyone. Right. Just digging in on their initial opinion.

[Dan LeBatard]

Including the Browns, by the way.

[Diana Rossini]

It's funny, when I was calling around, I kept that in mind. Of course, I checked in with people that I knew were or in on Shador. We'll call it in, meaning they needed a quarterback. But I kept it pretty broad and I asked a lot of people on purpose because I wasn't sure from watching myself, I beast on social media and the Nike Adam, like, I guess it was great. And then, you know, I think there's. I think they have a really interesting situation there in Cleveland. I don't think it's going to be easy waters to navigate because there's going to be this pressure to put him out there because he's electric, because he's got this energy about him, he's got this following. But I don't necessarily believe that always means that that's the best choice. So I think unless he. If he takes some big step here coming up in this game, then I could see them maybe considering it. But for right now, from what I understand and from talking to enough people around the league, I think should door Sanders stays, you know, on the depth chart in the spot he's in right now. I don't. I don't foresee him moving up anywhere.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why do you hate J.J. mcCarthy?

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Ryan]

You hate J.J. mcCarthy.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's your problem with J.J. oh, my.

[Diana Rossini]

So I'm going to Minnesota tonight. I can't wait. I feel like I'm gonna land at the airport and people are gonna throw Eggs in my face. By the way, leave it to me to fight with the nicest fan base in America.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right?

[Diana Rossini]

Like, of course, yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Is that a known thing, that Viking fans are the nicest fan base? I didn't know that.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, my God. They're like the people from Minnesota.

[Dan LeBatard]

Very nice.

[Diana Rossini]

Unbelievable. Like, even the staff in minute. Like, you talk about fighting, it's impossible to fight with people with the coaching staff and with the PR people there. It's like a Minnesota nice thing. Obviously, east coast people were a little bit more direct. We'll scream in your face. We'll love you and hug you later. But we share how we feel. Minnesota just. I don't. I think they feel the same rage we feel, but they just don't say it. But it's part of the reason why I love going to Minnesota is because I'm like, wow. So this is a world where people are kind. So, yeah, in the off season, there was. I think I got on their bad side because there was a time where Minnesota was having conversations about bringing in Aaron Rodgers and I made the mistake of doing Dan Patrick show. Not. That wasn't the mistake. I love Dan. It was. Dan set me up on purpose and said, all right, take a guess right now. If you had to guess, Aaron Rodgers will play where this is just a guess. And as a reporter, when you guess, people think that's you saying that's what's going to happen. And I, like, took a beat and I said, dan, I think that Aaron Rodgers will somehow wind up in Minnesota.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a report hater.

[Diana Rossini]

Why do you hate says Rogers?

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a bad job by Dan Patrick, by the way.

[Diana Rossini]

Oh, I texted. I texted his people. I was like, never again. No more guessing questions. You know, And I, I do really enjoy that show. And he asks questions like you do, Stu. Just things that. That are hard and I'm never going to come out on top. But I enjoy the challenge because even this show, I will get aggregated from this afterwards. Right? It'll be like, Rossini hates Minnesota. She thinks should Doris Sanders should be cut, like, whatever. It'll happen. Send them to me afterwards. Can't wait. Love, love my job. So I think what happened, I think Minnesota Viking fans took that as me going, the Vikings are out on jj. Whereas I was trying to say, look, this team is built to win a Super Bowl. This is a young quarterback coming off a significant injury who's essentially in his rookie season now. Why not take a shot at Aaron Rodgers?

[Stugotz]

Sounds like you hate him.

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah, I Can't wait to see him. Because, you know, he sees it like, what am I gonna say? Like, hi. I'm like, I have nothing to apologize for.

[Dan LeBatard]

You were doing your job. That's it.

[Unknown]

I mean, Diana, it seems as though.

[Diana Rossini]

What if he yelled? What if he just comes up to me? What if this is the conflict? Like, he's just like, I don't know what a man would do with. To a female. Like, I don't think he's gonna, like, swing at me. But what would be funny?

[Mike Ryan]

It's unlikely he'll swing.

[Dan LeBatard]

It'd be a story if he did.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, definitely unlikely.

[Chris Cody]

What would be funny if he, like, started dancing. Like, a dance routine. I'm just trying to find something funny.

[Diana Rossini]

That he could do something just, like, bizarre.

[Unknown]

Diana, it would seem as though the. The NFL media is more locked into Shador than the number one pick. Usually the number one pick making his debut at that position gets the NFL Network treatment. It's kind of quiet around Cameron Ward.

[Mike Ryan]

And I know you're calling it Cameron. You're in on Cameron.

[Unknown]

Well, one of my theories there is that there was already a Cam that played quarterback relatively recently. And yes, he's not at the point. He's not at the point in his career where you can just go Cam, and everybody knows what you're talking about.

[Dan LeBatard]

So for now, he's Cameron.

[Unknown]

He's got to earn being the universal Cam, and that has a long way to go for Cameron Ward, and he very clearly wants to be called Cameron. So I'm going to try my best to adhere to it. Made some nice throws. I know from being down here, knowing how he can change a program and the type of leader that he is. And I'm wondering if there's any chatter around Titans camp that they may have gotten a really, really good one, maybe a rap battle.

[Diana Rossini]

You are so right. He owns the title of least talked about quarterback, but that doesn't mean he's not doing great things. I can tell you. Tennessee is really happy with where he's at in terms of his development and this transition period where, you know, this is so important for these quarterbacks to get adjusted to the NFL. I was in Denver two weeks ago with Bo Nix and we were talking about how different it is in year two, and it's just so funny, you know, it's just like anything when you think about when we all got our jobs, where we're at now. That first year, you thought you knew what you're doing, but you had no idea. Like, when you look Back after the second year. So I think there's a lot of just learning, absorbing and absorbing large amounts. I do think they have a great head coach for that. Anytime I've asked players about what his coaching style is, I always hear teacher with Callahan, like, he's really good with. With quarterbacks specifically. So I think he's in good hands from that perspective. You know, I just don't. I don't know how the rest of this roster is going to look and shake out, but in terms of his development, I've heard nothing but great things. It's just we're not talking about him enough because there's just. There's nothing. There's no drama. This goes. This is how we started this conversation. Like the most interesting relationships, the most interesting things are the ones that have the drama. And there's just. There's no drama in Tennessee, which is. I can tell you, they love it this way.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think there's so much attention around Shador, Sanders, Mike, that there's none being given to Cameron Ward, and I think that kind of helps them out.

[Unknown]

You know, the metrics.

[Diana Rossini]

So let's. Let's play the game that I play with Silver and Darlington. How would you help the situation? Tennessee? So we start paying attention to camp.

[Unknown]

Oh, I think his play will make people pay attention. No one's going to give them a snowball's chance in hell week one.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, and because Shadur is not going to start week one, so we don't.

[Unknown]

They brought in Flacco. Flacco. It's common knowledge that Flacco's going to start.

[Diana Rossini]

Do you think Shador will start this year?

[Unknown]

I think at some point, yeah, because they're going to be bad and people are going to be clamoring for it. At that point, you need to see what the kids got. I don't know if he plays before Dylan Gabriel, but I think they have five kids. Historically, we've all seen the jerseys. Chances are all four of them are getting in at one point. Kenny Pickett's gonna get a run, too. But I think Cameron Ward's play is going to dictate the narrative, and I think it sets up nicely. People are underestimating them. They play in a division that if they make slight augmentations and improvements, they can make a run inside of that division. If he. If he has a good performance week one against. We all acknowledge Denver's a loaded team this year, has a good defense. If he looks the part, then people are going to talk about him. It's a weird place that no one's talking about a Heisman Trophy finalist that was a number one overall draft pick. But I'm sure he's actually reveling in that.

[Diana Rossini]

I still think Tennessee has been ignored because they've lacked identity over the last few years. Right? They at one point they were these tough, relentless, smart players. Derrick Henry was the star. Obviously they were in the AFC championship game with Ryan Tannehill was there. But that feels like a decade ago. It wasn't. It was what, five, six years ago now? But I think this is an opportunity for Tennessee to get back on the map because there's a reason we're not paying attention, because we're not really sure what they are. And I think that that to me has to be the biggest priority for that team is who are the Tennessee Titans of 2025. And it's got to be more than just the fact that we've got the number one overall pick. It's. It's just got to be better than that. Especially they got the Houston Texans are going to be good this year. They're going to be very good. Like CJ Stroud is not going to look the way he did last year. Not from what I'm hearing. I've heard he's had a great camp. What does Zinn give you?

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[Stugotz]

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[Diana Rossini]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Diana Rossini]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Diana Rossini]

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[Unknown]

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[Stugotz]

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[Diana Rossini]

Death is coming for our family.

[Stugotz]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Don LeBatard, are you on the fan right now?

[Diana Rossini]

Did Mike Greenberg call you yet? Are you ever gonna go back to espn? People think it's so weird you're a writer now. All those years on tv. All those years and now you're right. Who reads that?

[Unknown]

Stugarts.

[Diana Rossini]

Why did he take a job at the Atlantic? Mom, I work at the ATH. What you on YouTube?

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Stugotz]

Diana, I saw something on the TV screens here that was kind of jarring. It was Jeff Saturday saying, quote, I love what the jets are doing enough. And so question number one here as we look at the tighten up guy with the flag trying to get that.

[Chris Cody]

Just couldn't figure out this flag. I mean, try it four different ways still. Now it's backwards.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dude.

[Chris Cody]

It's just like you got this.

[Dan LeBatard]

There we go.

[Diana Rossini]

You guys take commercials?

[Stugotz]

No, no, we just have picture in picture. We're very add around here.

[Unknown]

Somewhere to go.

[Stugotz]

So a Diana, what are the jets doing? Because I only know about the Detroit Lions. And secondly, should Stugach be excited because Jeff Saturday said this?

[Diana Rossini]

No, I think this is camp and everyone's excited because there's been a change there. And I can tell you that's that is true. Right? This is different than the Salah years just from an accountability standpoint. That's what Aaron Glenn, you know, we just talked about the Titans, about what they are. Aaron Glenn is not struggling in the space of what the heck the jets are going to be. They. They Know what that is? Already they've set that standard, which I think is a good start for them. This is going to be just in fields though. It's going to come down to that. And it's been up and down. It's, from what I'm hearing, it's, you know, a couple of good days and then just not, not great at all. And you know, look, I don't think this is going to be some tremendous year for the New York Jets. No way. But I do love the fact that this feels like this could be a good building block towards something in the future. You know, they have, they have players like, it's not that they lack talent.

[Stugotz]

You said love. So did Jeff Saturday. So apparently people love the jets this year.

[Dan LeBatard]

But the problem is every three years the jets hire a new head coach and they're headed in the right direction. Every three years, the Jets. No one has been headed in the right direction more so over NFL history than New York Jets. Why? Because those are the things you say when you get a new head coach who gave up 45 points as a coordinator for the Lions.

[Diana Rossini]

Well, the only thing I don't love about how Aaron Glenn is doing things is when, whenever I've covered Detroit, you know, it's always he's such a good hands on coach. He knows the defense so well. His ability to coach is his strength. Right. And I'm not looking past that. I'm highlighting it. But he's not going to be doing that as the head coach. From what I understand, yes, he's the head coach, but that special sauce that he has, I don't know if he's gonna be able to continue doing that the way we saw him do it in Detroit. And what's made him so good now in the same regard, I have heard optimistic things coming out of Florin park already. But, but, but I don't know, Stu. I'm with you.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's right. Exactly.

[Diana Rossini]

It's so hard this time of year to really figure out Justin Fields is their quarterback.

[Unknown]

Well, how do they plan on using Justin Fields?

[Diana Rossini]

You know what's so funny, Stu? I'm so glad you said that because I am a sucker for that too. Sometimes I forget what the reality is, right? Because I get excited about pieces or things I'm hearing or a couple good plays I'll watch and then it's like, wait, wait, wait, wait. What are we talking about here? Like Joe Flacco's the starting quarterback in Cleveland and we think they're going to be good, you know, like you. You. Once you stop for a second and take a breath and go, okay, what is the realistic situation? But.

[Unknown]

But, Diana, they brought in Justin Fields because he's reputed to be one of those gu. For whatever reason, because of the stops that he's been at before, I assume, and the situation that he was in with Russell Wilson on the. In the same quarterback room is this guy didn't get a real extended shot at the position. But I'm curious as to how they're going to use him because oftentimes when guys that are that mobile and he is a special kind of athlete, I think he had the second greatest rushing yard total ever at the position. Sometimes they try to prove to the doubters that they can be passers. Justin Fields is at the point in his career where he's got to lean into his elite skill set, and that's being a runner. Now, that's a dangerous position for a quarterback. You take a pounding. But is he of the mindset that he's going to do what helps his team win? Right now, we have very little evidence that's with his arm. We have a lot of evidence that the best shot that they have is with his feet.

[Diana Rossini]

Yep. And it just made me think, because you're talking about that whenever you talk about a guy that's going to run a lot, you immediately think, all right, who's going to be. Who's the backup?

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Diana Rossini]

Because, you know, we run into. It's Tyrod Taylor, right. Who can do a good job running the offense. And I feel like he's been around for 900 years. But, yeah, the. Of course they're going to tap into that. I'm curious to see what this coaching staff is going to do with him. I, you know, let's go back to Pittsburgh. There was a very strong vibe that Justin was the better quarterback over Russell Wilson in camp. I remember being in Pittsburgh and I felt something weird going on there where it felt like half the team wanted Justin, the other half wanted Russia. Obviously, Mike Thomas went with what he wanted, which was Russell. But there were things that he was doing that Justin was doing well. And not to get too introspective on it, but I wonder how much of that experience has affected him now being the starter, because I know that that was hard for him when he did the work. He was playing very well in Pittsburgh, and he's, He's. His journey's been hard. It hasn't exactly been blockbuster, as we know. So I'm hoping to see just like a tough guy that Wants to prove to the world Chicago should have never gave up on him. That, like, that's what I want to see.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm hoping to see Tyrod Taylor.

[Diana Rossini]

If we're seeing Tyrod Taylor.

[Dan LeBatard]

What do you mean? We have a chance.

[Diana Rossini]

Okay. What if. All right. Let's just say it's October, right? First week of October.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Diana Rossini]

And it's obvious the quarterback's situation is not good. Yeah. How would you feel about Kirk Cousins coming to New York?

[Dan LeBatard]

What's my record?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, the quarterback situation is not good. You have a record.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I. That's not always the case.

[Unknown]

Not always.

[Mike Ryan]

Remember that time when the quarterback said it was bad and we were a good team?

[Dan LeBatard]

Not always the case.

[Diana Rossini]

500.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just not always the case.

[Unknown]

Mike Tomlin makes it to the playoffs in that situation.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, what's the matter with you?

[Diana Rossini]

Say, sorry, what if Derek Carr comes out of retirement? Would you take that?

[Unknown]

Is that a thing?

[Diana Rossini]

No.

[Unknown]

Okay.

[Diana Rossini]

I mean, maybe.

[Unknown]

But I have heard Kirk Cousins recently. People are looking at Matthew Safford's health. This is a big contract. How difficult is that going to be to move? Because Kirk Cousins is always the first guy that people go to. As if someone needs a quarterback and you just did it. Kirk Cousins is going to be the one that's available.

[Diana Rossini]

He's the most. We'll call it available because we know he doesn't want to be there.

[Mike Ryan]

Right.

[Unknown]

But it's a huge contract. How does it get moved? What does it look like?

[Diana Rossini]

It's the New York jets willing to take on that salary that Arthur Blank in Atlanta does not want to pay. And usually when these trades happen, and there's usually some type of an agreement, I'll take on 70% of it and you take 30. And whatever the math is, from what I understand that the teams that have called just to poke around, the Falcons are like, come up big and we'll talk. But until a team does that, and desperate teams tend to do that. So it would come down to how desperate the jets would be and what they'd be willing to spend and if they even have the ability to do it in order to make a move like that. But it. Let's say you do do that and you make all that happen. I mean, do you feel good that Kirk Cousins at this point in his life could give the Jets a chance?

[Dan LeBatard]

I would feel good about it. I would think the only. The reason I asked the record is the jets would only do that if they felt like they had a chance to make it to the playoffs. Right. Otherwise, why would you do that? There'd be no reason. But if we were flirting with a playoff spot, we got Kirk Cousins halfway through the season. Yeah, I'd feel pretty good about my chance.

[Unknown]

And that's also a situation. If you're flirting with a playoff spot. That means your quarterback position has been performing pretty well. I mean, it stands to reason. Unless you're Mike Tomlin.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think you guys are forgetting Trent Dilfer, Brad Johnson. There have been some bad quarterbacks who have made it to a Super bowl and bad quarterbacks who have won a Super Bowl.

[Unknown]

Unloaded teams.

[Diana Rossini]

Nick Foles. Right.

[Unknown]

Teams, though. A team. Has it ever happened for a team that people picked to finish bottom of the division?

[Diana Rossini]

Stu, It's. It's. It's unbelievable. You really can't get. You can't get a win here with this team. And I know how excited you are. When Aaron joined. Like, I remember being on the show two years ago. You were. You weren't grainy. Right. Let's not get crazy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was pretty excited. I was. I mean, so was I. Yes.

[Diana Rossini]

Because the idea of it was perfect. And I thought they did the right thing. I still say they did the right thing back. I mean, obviously they did not based on what we saw. But we did not know he was going to get hurt.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Diana Rossini]

The injury just.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, they. They did the right thing. I mean, we're playing the result, and I love to do that, but they did the right thing. At the time, Aaron Rodgers was available and he wanted to be a New York jet.

[Diana Rossini]

Like, yeah, my foot has fallen asleep three times during this interview. I don't know what that means, but stand up.

[Unknown]

It's a second, very clear message that she doesn't want to sing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, just shake it out.

[Unknown]

He's never been asked for a commercial break before. You guys take commercials?

[Diana Rossini]

I just forgot. I forgot I'm not wearing dress pants, so sorry. I'm wearing just, like, gym shorts. Have you noticed there's, like, a change right now?

[Dan LeBatard]

It could have been worse.

[Diana Rossini]

The outro. There's, like, a trend right now with men on TV where, like, I see Dan and Adam, like, it's, like, cool to just go on TV like that. Like, why? Like, I come on the show a lot. I always have lipstick on or I brush my hair because I don't know, I'm at work. But I feel like the cool thing now is to, like, be sloppy.

[Mike Ryan]

Is that the cool thing?

[Dan LeBatard]

I've been doing it for decades.

[Diana Rossini]

Start doing the show like this.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, just like that.

[Diana Rossini]

Once a week. Like, let's talk ball, boys. What do we got?

[Dan LeBatard]

I like it.

[Mike Ryan]

Diana, Are we. Diana, are we watching the end of Matthew Stafford's career right now?

[Diana Rossini]

Yeah. Yes. Because of his age. I don't think it's because the injury is gonna be the. I mean, look, he's been dealing with back. It's. Sorry. It's very hard to be sloppy. Someone just gotta.

[Stugotz]

Again the pins and needles. Now. Where are we on the foot sleep?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Unknown]

You gave the foot away for free.

[Chris Cody]

Somebody just screen grabbed.

[Diana Rossini]

I hope, you know, is that an age that, like, where did this. Like, why am I. Why am I like. Is this bad circulation?

[Stugotz]

I mean, it depends on how you sit, but, yes, it's just largely bad circulation. Eventually, you gotta get some blood flow into the.

[Diana Rossini]

I used to get this when I was pregnant. Oh, God.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whoa.

[Diana Rossini]

Wow.

[Unknown]

Revelation. Revelation. Mark it down.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow. Possible.

[Stugotz]

Do we need to take a test? Do we need a commercial break?

[Mike Ryan]

Feels like deep in thought, huh?

[Diana Rossini]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Unknown]

Maybe.

[Dan LeBatard]

You sure?

[Diana Rossini]

Maybe.

[Dan LeBatard]

Possibly.

[Stugotz]

If you have to think that hard.

[Chris Cody]

I like the feeling when something falls asleep.

[Unknown]

She might be pregnant, Chris. That's what we're doing right now.

Are you.

[Dan LeBatard]

She hasn't felt this since she was pregnant, and she's feeling it again.

[Unknown]

One last football question before you go. If there's reason for doubt in Detroit, it's because they lost her two coordinators to be head coaches. Elsewhere, it's been theorized that Dan Campbell is exactly where he wants because he likes being underestimated. And he's a lot smarter when it comes to these things than people give him credit for this.

[Stugotz]

What are you doing? What are you. You know, I'm the Detroit Lions expert in all of sports.

[Diana Rossini]

Come.

[Stugotz]

Why are we even asking Diana this question?

[Diana Rossini]

Hold on.

[Dan LeBatard]

We have imaging.

[Stugotz]

My blue.

[Chris Cody]

Hold on. We have imaging.

[Stugotz]

That's it. That's. Thank you, Diana. Although I was kind of bummed out, like, Honolulu Blue is not something I have full. Like the closet full of. But I wore this one today. And then I get into the office and Billy over there wears a better shade of blue. He's got the UCLA blue over there. And I'm just like, come on, man. Know what we're doing here. All right, so real quick with our Detroit Lions minute. To answer your question there, Mike, yes, the coordinator thing is a problem this week against the Dolphins. Actually might be interested because they're testing their toughness against the Dolphins. So they're trying to figure out if their issues in camp are real or fake, and they're trying to test it against the Dolphins. Pretty sure they're gonna be fake. Also, did you know that Jared Goff compared Aiden Hutchinson to Aaron Donald? Imagine if you get a full year of Aaron Donald. And Diana, my question to you is. I already subscribed to the Detroit Free Press. I did not subscribe yet to the Detroit News. Their stories seem pretty similar. Do you subscribe to every freaking newspaper? How do you do this?

[Diana Rossini]

So I work for a newspaper. It's the New York Times. So I love reading our people. We have the best reporters. So down you. You fought. You subscribe to the Athletic, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, sure, duh.

[Unknown]

Especially now after the Pablo announcement.

[Diana Rossini]

Guys, you better everyone here as a company grab we do of your subscription and if you don't, I'll give you a secret password that you can use. So. Yeah, no, it's so funny you say that. I'm sure you guys have those things on your phone where you can see like, all the times you. Your thing get your credit card charges and I have a million different newspapers. Like, there has to be a better way to do this, because I do. I'm. I'm the same way you are. I love to consume as much as I can, so I'm probably spending thousands of dollars a month on just reading every newspaper.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's not worth it. You can go ahead and cancel your two Detroit newspaper subscriptions because I got that whole beat covered for the entire country.

[Diana Rossini]

All right, why don't we do this? Why don't you and I just start a text exchange and just give me everything I need to know. So just save me some time. Plus, I'm busy, so I don't. I don't.

[Stugotz]

Honolulu Blue Chat starting.

[Diana Rossini]

Let's do it. I'm in.

[Mike Ryan]

Great job, Diana. Scoop City podcast. Thanks for hanging out with us.

[Diana Rossini]

I will see you guys at the start of the season. I look forward to it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Good luck with the pregnancy test.