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Tony
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Dan LeBatard
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Josh Pate
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Josh Pate
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Jeremy
Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
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Dan LeBatard
I've done it.
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Josh Pate
And now here's the marching man to.
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Jeremy
Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
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Greg
This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
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Josh Pate
Happy Chinooka.
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Jeremy
This guy is really good. He is prolific. Josh Pate comes on live on Saturdays and all over your week giving college football analysis and information that is instant and very strong. Josh, thank you for being on the program. Program Give me the precedent or Historical comp to the surprise that Indiana is this year.
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Josh Pate
Man, oh man. I guess you'd have to go to college basketball, Dan, to find the most ready parallel for it. I'm just not sure it really happens in college football. And I also want to remind people like last year was the flash. You know, if you were to have what we historically in sports would call a flash in the pan, last year would have been that, right? You've got a guy who takes over a bottom dwelling Big Ten program. Indiana exists in the Big Ten so that Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, etc, can rack up wins. He takes over that job. He imports his James Madison roster. James Madison makes the playoff the next year, mind you, Indiana makes the playoff and then gets better the year after that and makes the playoff and is the number one overall seed. I don't know what the parallel is for it. I will tell you, sort of the whole side lane of all this has been how bad it makes other coaches look because every other coach is out there begging for patience and they're trying to sell their booster class and their administrative class that it takes two, three years minimum. And that used to work and now all of that's burned up because your fan base and your donor base and your AD even knocks on your door and says, hey, you've got infinitely more resources, at least we thought, than Signetti has in Indiana. Why has he been able to do it? And they really have no answer.
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Jeremy
I've been maintaining, arguing that Vanderbilt had its best season ever. Missouri, best season ever. Texas Tech, best season ever. Indiana, best season ever. Is there anyone else and is this just a product of what you're talking about? You can just get a coach now and a coach and quarterback can go from North Texas to Oklahoma State and you can fix your program by just doing it that quickly.
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Josh Pate
I think you can. I think there's a lot of truth to that now. I also think it is fraught with vulnerability because you could also try it and crash and burn or you could have what's happened at Florida State where you go and you do it one time, you. You portal your way to success one time. And it sort of crystallizes this belief that you can just do that every year. And really that's not anyone's aim, Dan. That's not even Signetti's aim at Indiana, that's not Clark's aim. I'm in Nashville, down the road at Vanderbilt, that's not their aim. Their aim is really to build through high school recruiting. It's just they realized what are we doing? We're really building through high school recruiting just so the big boys can come in two years from now when they've developed on our dime and they portal out. So they've got to lean a little more heavy in the portal than that. But I also think there's this other thing happening. So as the portal as NIL is elevating the level that those programs can operate at, I would also ask you, look around the country today versus a decade ago, tell me where the dominant line of scrimmage play is. Nobody. Your Alabamas, your Texas's, nobody has dominant offensive line play anymore. And that used to be the catch. All that used to be. What completely yanked your lifeline out of the wall was their ability, the big boys ability to just lean and lean and lean. And football is a game where you get to put your hands on other people. And so at a certain point, you're powerless because it's not college basketball. No one really possesses that. They have it in spurts. Teams have it in spurts, but no one, wire to wire, possesses that. Even among the playoff teams right now, who's dominant on the offensive and defensive lines the way Bama would have been a decade ago, the way Georgia was even five years ago. So I think those two things happening at the same time have opened the door for some things that we used to say could never happen in college football.
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Jeremy
How much would you argue with me if I said Texas Tech should be favored to win the championship?
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Josh Pate
I'd argue a little bit. I've watched them a couple of times. Really, really up close. And the only thing that I would kind of push back on is I don't know that they would have the quarterback play to get them over the top. Like, I think eventually quarterbacks have to win games. You guys are gonna. We're gonna. We're all gonna watch Miami and A M Saturday, for example. Those are two really good pass rushes. Those are two teams that can shut the other team's run game down. And it eventually just comes down to can Carson Beck really have a few series that he puts together where he wins the game? Can Marcel Reed do that? Well, I would ask the same question at Texas Tech, and I do think that they have a defensive side of the ball. This is littered with Sunday talent, littered with sec, Big Ten talent. Can they win three of them? Can they string together three of them? And do I think that they could consistently do that enough to be considered the favorite? That's where I'd push back a little bit. Because even Though everyone's fallible at this point, I think I trust other quarterback situations more than theirs.
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Dan LeBatard
Hey, Josh. Big fan. Go Freights. The Michigan job. You've been ahead of this story and your most recent podcast shed a lot of light on it. How quickly do you think that we actually see this job filled? Because there's a lot of questions to be asked in Michigan and its leadership. If I'm a head coach, am I signing with a program that may be under scrutiny? Will I still have that same AD that hired me?
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Josh Pate
Yeah, look, it's really interesting how that search is going to happen, actually. You know, we just saw a Penn State search where for better or for worse, the athletic director ran point on it. I don't know that that's the way the Michigan search is operating, but I also don't know what the future of Ward manual is there. In fact, they may just be putting that off until they hire the head coach. That is a very, very strange situation, I will grant you to jump into. The counterpoint to that is, you know, a little birdie flew in my ear last night and told me, do you realize since we fired Ward, we've actually had an uptick in our nil contributions. Reading between the lines, that tells me there were a lot of deep pocketed people up there that were not very happy just with the general direction, just with the general existence of the program. With Sharon, I think Sharon, if you zoom it out to 50,000ft, was always kind of looked at by a lot of people up there as a bridge coach. We're gonna, we're gonna put you in place at the tail end of the Harbaugh stuff, right in the middle of the NCAA stuff. We don't know what's going to be on the other side of this bridge. And it's really foggy. Well, the fog lifted. The worst case scenario didn't happen, and then you're just stuck with a coach that truthfully was. Was bottom quarter to bottom half of the Big Ten from a caliber standpoint, and then you get this mess dropped in your lap. So it ends the way it ends. I think they look at it and say it really doesn't matter which direction we go, we're going to upgrade. Whether that's true or not, that's what they believe. I think they're really ready to spend and I think a lot of candidates are going to be sold on that idea. It's not false, by the way. I mean, it's like an untapped oil field up there from an nil donor perspective. And it's the Michigan job. And you know, if you're going after Kaylin DeBoer, yes, I always thought it was going to be really hard to pull him away from Alabama. I still feel that I know they won't give up until they actually get him looking them in the eyes and saying no, like a Twitter statement's not going to do for them. And I get that. I don't think they're getting deboer. But if you go after a Kenny Dillingham, for example, if you go after a Jet Fish, those guys probably, given their current situation versus what they could inherit at Michigan, could be willing to say, you know what, I'll assume a little bit of that risk because of the reward that I think I could bring us and it could bring me there. So to answer the first, first part of the question, I think it's going to go on a little bit because I really do think they insist on getting a firm, firm no from Kaylin DeBoer. That could be as early as Friday night or Saturday of this week or if they just keep winning, it could be as late as into the new year. And they got to adjust their timeline accordingly probably, if that happens. But I do think once they get the no, and I do think it'll be a no from Kalyn, you move on to like a Kenny Dillingham or a Jed Fish. I think that's when you start to really see rubber meet road there because I don't know that either of those guys are able to turn down the full force of what the Michigan offer would be.
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Jeremy
I'd take that job in a second if I were Deborah, get out from under all the saving stuff and just start over in a place with happier, same pressure.
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Dan LeBatard
Yeah, but you're not following the gu. I mean, you're following the guy after the guy.
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Jeremy
I don't think it is the same pressure, actually. And it's a place where you're new on. Hope you're not stained, but put this on the poll, please. Juju at LeBatard show. Is Josh too young to have little birdies flying in his ear and look up for, look up for me why it is that it is a little birdie that flies into someone's ear with information. Is it carrier pigeon related?
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Mike Ryan
Josh, you mentioned a couple of months ago that you believe that there is a job, a big job that is going to open up because something is happening. Were you talking about the Michigan job?
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Josh Pate
Yes, I was talking about the Michigan job. I, I believed that that job was going to open up because I thought it had two possibilities. The first was just competitively, this is, I believe I said it after they had lost the Oklahoma game, so you still knew that you had the trip to USC coming up. They lost that one and you had the Ohio State game coming up. If they lost one other game along the lines, I thought they could have fired Sharon just because competitively they didn't think that he was meeting the standard. But that was also armed with the knowledge that there was this other stuff going on in the background. Now, it would be a total lie if I told you, man, hey, I knew Michigan had caused to fire him right then and there. They didn't even know they had full cause to fire him until last week. So I just thought if they're looking for a reason, maybe they're given a reason on the field. But all I. Look, all I was doing at that point was echoing what a lot of people in the business were saying. And that was, hey, with the Penn State job coming open and oh, Florida just fired Napier and oh, LSU made a move as all that hurricane started to swirl, I kept on getting told, hey, the Michigan job may come open. The Michigan job's probably going to come open. And at that point, if you remember, no one was considering that as a possibility. Michigan was ranked. They were fine. They had come out of the NCAA scandal stuff. So that was really not on the radar. And I was just thinking to myself, man, with all these other big jobs opening up, if Michigan gets thrown into the fold here, what is that about to do to the hiring cycle? And it did get thrown into the fold just after the other jobs already got taken.
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Jeremy
Greg Cody, you had a great many objections to Pavia's behavior this weekend around the Heisman ceremony.
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Greg
Well, look, it was a Cinderella story, right? Mendoza is the first Cuban American ever to win the Heisman. He was great with his speech. Indiana Cinderella story. It was a wonderful night. And then Pavia, the runner up, embarrasses himself in his school by what he wrote on Instagram. I'm just wondering what your thoughts were on that.
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Josh Pate
I learned last year that if you're going to take Diego Pavia, you got to develop this different filter. I called it the Pavia filter. It's a reference I've used several times where that's just going to get caught in the filter. Now, you could choose to reject him, not like him. And I considered that last year, at which point I would have just been turned off by all of it. Yeah, I hate that kind of Stuff can't stand it. I just learned that, hey, man, if I'm going to let him in, like, if I'm going to accept him, if he's going to be in my bubble, I'm going to have to accept to a certain extent that you don't get the kind of competitive character that you get. Whether you like it or not, you don't get the kind of competitive character you get from a guy that's, that's five, eight, on a good day, playing at a Heisman level without a little bit of that mental edge. Because I don't think if he has that, that, you know, what about him? I don't even think that he's there to begin with. I think it's just been mandatory for him. The other part of that, I'm interested to see what you guys think about this because I don't get tied up in the Heisman a whole lot. But the award says it's for the most outstanding player in college football. And if you eliminate everything you think about Diego Pavia off the field or the way he runs his mouth or everything like that, I don't know that I saw a more dynamic player more important to their team this year than him. But my working theory on why Mendoza won in like such a runaway fashion was with all the coaching stuff happening in the middle of the year, I don't think people paid a whole lot of attention to the Heisman race until the last weekend of the season. And that's why you go into that Saturday. Diego's like a co favorite with Fernando Mendoza. And by the end of the Big Ten title game, which was a 13 to 10 game, Mendoza's odds are like minus 3,000. I found it curious that that kind of performance was like the end all, be all indicator in the Heisman odds market. But there's not an outrage for me either way. But I do think, yeah, Diego Pavia, man, I learned a long time ago you're just, you're either going to accept that with him or you're just going to have to toss him out entirely.
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Jeremy
Cam ward threw for 2,000 more yards than Mendoza. Like that was just given to him because he was 22 touchdowns, zero interceptions in the red zone. And we didn't expect anything from that football team. He had two. Pavia did not have two moments. He had the moment against Penn State and he beat Ohio State. It's all he needed to win that trophy.
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Josh Pate
Pavia more passing yards in one fewer games than Mendoza and led Vanderbilt in rushing. I think seven of their 12 games this year. Yeah, I'm with you on that.
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Jeremy
It's silly, but when you have an upset of that kind, like, it doesn't make any sense to see Indiana be good at football. They were good once with Pennocks, I think, in the last 20 years. What are. What aren't they, like, 50 or 60 games below.500 in the last 20 years? And all of a sudden they're. They're beating Ohio State and they're there. Who is the favorite? Who's the favorite to win the championship?
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Josh Pate
If you believe Vegas, Ohio State is. I don't know that Ohio State feels that way right now after what Indiana did to him. So look at me. I'm shaking as I talk. I have no idea.
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Jeremy
Okay, his. His YouTube channel, you have to watch and subscribe at Josh Pate, cfb, and he's the host of Josh Pate's college football show. A lot of good information there, Josh. Thank you for being on. We appreciate it.
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Josh Pate
I appreciate you, Dave.
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Dan LeBatard
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Tony
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Greg
To do this with us?
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Tony
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Dan LeBatard
I swear, Don LeBatard, I'm not going to apologize.
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Greg
I wouldn't expect you to apologize. Then you're a giant infant. Okay, you have no control over your emotions. You have no control over your emotions when you're calling someone you know an idiot. I don't deserve it.
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Dan LeBatard
Okay?
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Greg
I don't deserve it.
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Tony
All right?
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Greg
And you're a fool for saying it.
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Dan LeBatard
Okay? Stugats.
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Greg
You're a fool. I was kind of following.
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Tony
You're locking in right now.
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Dan LeBatard
You're locking in on us.
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Greg
Yeah. All right.
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Dan LeBatard
Let's drop the gloves, pal.
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Jeremy
Let's drop.
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Dan LeBatard
You should be thanking me for what? Every day.
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Greg
For what.
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Dan LeBatard
For what I've done around this character. And the second gets real for you. You want to come at me and.
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Josh Pate
Call me a fool, huh?
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Dan LeBatard
No, no, no.
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Jeremy
Seriously, Jeremy.
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Josh Pate
Seriously.
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Dan LeBatard
I've added 10 years to your career.
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Josh Pate
This is the Dan Lebatar show with these two guys.
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Jeremy
A number of different college football things that I want to get to with you guys. You like the Mendoza speech? You like the Miami speech? You liked the Cuban kid reaching the masses at the downtown Athletic Club.
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Greg
I mean, he's the most Miami player who's ever won the Heisman Trophy. The Canes have had two Heisman winners. Neither one of them were my.
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Tony
He's the most Belen player to ever win the Kai Trophy.
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Dan LeBatard
He's the most Belen slash Columbus. He went to both schools.
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Tony
He went to both schools.
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Dan LeBatard
He went to both schools. He would take offense to being called the Berlin Kid, though. Out of line, Greg.
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Tony
Respect. Respectfully. Respectfully.
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Greg
Okay.
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Tony
I like you, Greg.
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Josh Pate
Yeah.
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Tony
That was not a Miami speech whatsoever.
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Dan LeBatard
That was a.
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Tony
If you want a Miami speech, I will give you a Miami speech.
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Jeremy
Would you like a Cuban. Would you like what? The Cuban Miami. Heisman speech? Should have.
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Dan LeBatard
Should have sounded.
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Greg
Love that.
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Jeremy
So. Because.
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Tony
Because you're.
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Jeremy
You're a Broward guy.
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Greg
Okay. He did speak Spanish. Poorly.
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Tony
Poorly.
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Greg
Okay.
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Dan LeBatard
Poorly.
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Tony
I mean, come on, have some pride.
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Greg
But would you not agree that he's the most Miami guy to ever win the Heisman? He ranks. He ranks above the two Canes who won.
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Jeremy
Yeah. Vinny Testaverde and Gino Toretta don't give off a whole lot of Kendall.
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Greg
They're from New York and California.
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Jeremy
Although looking at Vinnie, not. Not speaking, but looking at Vinnie. Vinnie could pass for Cuban. Yeah, I do believe he could.
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Tony
We can claim him. We can claim.
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Jeremy
Just visually, where can we put you? Let's go find you a Heisman room, write up a speech and do a dead. Let's go. Go. Go to the Heisman. Go to the Downtown Athletic Club elsewhere in our building and tell me when you're ready. Tell me when your Miami I'm gonna.
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Tony
Write it up right now. It's gonna be a Miami speech. Like, if I would have won the Heisman, this is what it would have sounded like if I would have won.
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Greg
Excellent.
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Jeremy
I want to do funniest thing from the Sports Weekend with you guys here as Tony gets that ready. And then we'll close out the segment with Tony's Heisman speech. But are you guys ready to do thing from the Sports Weekend? Okay, get the imaging ready here because I have a nominee. And also do me the favor. Video of just finding for me a photo so I could present it to the audience of a Seattle Seahawk named Brady Russell. Just find me a photograph of Brady Russell and put it on the screen. I will wait for you as I nominate what was for me the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend. It involved Brady Russell Hit the imaging. Chris.
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Josh Pate
Hey, people, tell us what in sport made you laugh hardest this weekend. In this segment we call what make.
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Dan LeBatard
You laugh this weekend.
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Jeremy
So I don't know if you guys saw this during what I'm going to call the Philip Rivers game because I do believe that a whole lot of people in the 4 o' clock window didn't care about Green Bay and Denver. Denver certainly didn't care about New Orleans and the Panthers. Panthers still in the mix. Panthers are in the mix.
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Greg
Awful.
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Jeremy
I heard the announcer shout holy guacamole on the late hit that won the game for the Saints there. I hadn't heard a holy guacamole on television a while. Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Do you love when the sports announcer yells holy guacamole. But my funniest thing from the Sports Weekend is that in the Colts Seahawks game, the Seahawks at one point ran a little a rollout. Sam Darnold, he threw it to this guy, Brady Russell, and what happened is he just simply dropped the ball. He was open and he was wide open. And the rollout fooled the Colts and they just threw it to Brady Russell and the announcers torched him as soon as he didn't catch it. This is what they did. They're like, that's his first touch this season and that's going to be his last touch this season. He will never be trusted again in that situation as long as he lives. The announcers just buried him. He will never again get that touch. Those teammates will never trust him again to catch the football in that situation.
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Mike Ryan
Never.
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Jeremy
That's what they were doing. They crushed him. I have rarely heard an announcing team annihilate a nobody. The way this announcing team went out of its way to point out that Brady, that poor Brady Russell who dropped that ball will never again catch a ball in his experience playing football. Mike Ryan, what was your funniest thing from the Sports Weekend?
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Dan LeBatard
Well, I wanted to go with one of two things. Hopefully we have the video of Messi playing passes with a politician that was basically granted a make a wish in India. The reason we do not have a championship trophy parade for Inter Miami is because Messi just decided to take millions upon millions in going to India and subjecting himself to this kind of stuff. By the way, there was a full on riot, full on riot at one of the stadiums because Messi was kind of shielded by huge throngs of people and the only people allowed on the pitch with Messi were politicians and and privileged people. These people in India lost their minds, started throwing the seats from the stadium. It was a full on riot. I also have a 1B which was Roy on Friday saying he needed to get his legs under him for a media skate. You realize I paid for that, right? Paid actual money. You missed the championship being won. This is your title too. The Dan LeBatard show with Stugatz owns the Cyclones. This was a victory for all. David Dwork was there. Jordan McPherson was there. Roy left us at the altar. Nah, I knew you guys had it in the bag.
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Jeremy
Roy, what was the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend?
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Dan LeBatard
I want to show a picture from WWE Saturday night's main event and John Cena's final match. Just before he tapped out the gunther, he had a smirk on his face in a sleeper hole. It looked like one of those memes saying I what opinion do you have that's going to end up have you in this position?
- [26:11]
Jeremy
We're going to get back to that. Zaslow was there and I want to cover more of this. Zaslow was in attendance for that. Cena submitted the first time in his career he's a quitter as punctuation on his career. One of the rare times you will see a scripted event end up amid the headlines in sports because a guy has done something that's so dramatic you rarely there. There is nothing other than wrestling that is like this where you get a major sports headline. It was a phenomenon that was scripted. Jeremy, what was the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend?
- [26:44]
Tony
Both funny and relatable.
- [26:45]
Josh Pate
Josh Allen admitted that he throws up every single game game on the sideline.
- [26:50]
Jeremy
They caught him this week. He's surprised he hasn't been caught more Often, but every game he throws up. Dennis Erickson used to do that.
- [26:56]
Mike Ryan
That's why. That's why the Bills aren't going to ever win a Super Bowl.
- [26:58]
Dan LeBatard
Probably different reasons.
- [26:59]
Greg
Yeah.
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Jeremy
Chris, what was the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend?
- [27:04]
Stugatz
I mean, the Chiefs being eliminated from playoffs before the Dolphins.
- [27:07]
Jeremy
Yeah. What are you laughing about, Greg?
- [27:09]
Greg
What? What Mike said about Dennis Erickson. I've witnessed some of that. Without going into detail. No, I mean, you know, that kind of thing I covered, um, for four years.
- [27:19]
Jeremy
Greg, what was the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend?
- [27:21]
Greg
I have a quick addendum to what Mike said about Lionel Messi's tour of India. Erected in India was a statue of Lionel Messi. Now, it's common in the statue game for statues to be slightly larger than life. In this case, the Messi statue is 70ft tall. That's right. 12 and a half times bigger than the 5 7.
- [27:44]
Jeremy
Messi put it on the poll at lebatard show. Is 12 and a half times bigger than the human being too big for a statue? Yes or no? Zaslow, what was the funniest thing from the Sports Weekend?
- [27:56]
Mike Ryan
So on the Fox pregame show, I don't know if you know, but Tom Brady, he's a broadcaster for Fox and he was in studio with those guys and they were, they were making a list. They were doing rankings of, you know, best gifts. Because the holiday season, you know, best gifts that a player has given his teammates and very high up on the list presented as such by Aaron Andrews and Carissa Thompson, was a gift that Tom Brady gave his offensive lineman one time.
- [28:24]
Jeremy
Tom Brady, of course, that's when his team went undefeated in the regular season.
- [28:30]
Tony
He gifted his O line.
- [28:32]
Jeremy
Ready brand new luxury SUVs. What a class act.
- [28:39]
Josh Pate
You got a guy.
- [28:42]
Jeremy
I want you guys to pay attention. There's a catch. There's a catch. Tom Brady, stop stealing our line. The catch to all this is the cars were on a one year lease. Beggars can't be cheesers.
- [29:00]
Mike Ryan
All right, come on.
- [29:03]
Josh Pate
One year. Here I'm giving you a gift, but.
- [29:06]
Mike Ryan
You could only have it for a year.
- [29:08]
Jeremy
I wonder if he had to actually pay for that or just do a sponsorship deal with the car dealership where he comes out, does autographs a couple of times, and all his offensive linemen get a one year lease.
- [29:19]
Greg
You know it. But that is so cheap. That is so cheap. I would. If I'm the lineman, I would rather get a Kia than I can own than a one year.
- [29:30]
Jeremy
It's not it's not that cheap. And that something like that probably costs a great deal of money. A one year lease on a luxury vehicle.
- [29:40]
Mike Ryan
What could a monthly lease be? A thousand bucks?
- [29:41]
Jeremy
No, it's going to be tens of thousands of dollars that will end up costing him per lineman.
- [29:46]
Mike Ryan
Yeah, so like 50,000 bucks is what he paid in totality for his offense.
- [29:51]
Jeremy
It sounds kind of cheap if he paid anything at all. What's your guess though? Do you think he paid his own cash or he just had a deal with the dealership?
- [29:58]
Greg
Totally the deal with the dealership.
- [30:00]
Mike Ryan
Beggars can't be choosers.
- [30:01]
Greg
Yeah. What does that even mean?
- [30:03]
Jeremy
Another funny thing from the weekend. You can't deny that this was funny. Everything related to Philip Rivers was funny, including that he played beyond where it is that perhaps you thought he would play but can't throw the ball downfield at all. Like it's going to be just bubble screens and screen passes and slants and there's just, just nothing else there. But I did like watching his high school team, watching him because he's a grandfather and his high school team. How cool must that be for a high school team to watch their coach like be with them on Monday with no indication whatsoever that he's ever going to play again. And they're young enough that they actually haven't seen him play. Like my guess is that seventh graders, sixth graders might not have been paying a whole lot of attention to Philip Rivers playing days. And then he plays in the game. And among other things, Mike Ryan bet for him to have more than half a rushing yard. He ended with negative 1/2 running though.
- [31:03]
Dan LeBatard
What a great goof bet.
- [31:04]
Stugatz
I will say I followed him with the bet.
- [31:06]
Dan LeBatard
Oh come on. That was the one handed up a show of solidarity that I had with the old guy.
- [31:12]
Stugatz
Negative five yards.
- [31:13]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, there was no chance that one.
- [31:15]
Stugatz
Where he fell down. Oh yeah, then he got up and started to run.
- [31:18]
Jeremy
Well, he got, he almost got it. He, he did almost get a yard on that play. He almost got Mike Ryan's of a yard on the play where he fell down and just crawled around able to get up there.
- [31:30]
Dan LeBatard
One of my favorite bets ever.
- [31:32]
Mike Ryan
Can I, can I read you this tweet that Chase Daniel Reed, the former quarterback retweeted about Philip Rivers. Listen to this. No coincidence that Rivers goes back to the NFL right before his health insurance clock runs out. When you have a 20 person deep roster at home, you got to do what you got to do before the five year clock is up post playing. Now the clock resets, that's pretty good there.
- [31:59]
Jeremy
To get 10 kids, a bunch of health care that comes in grandfathered in. Literally grandfathered in on, on Philip Rivers because he has so many children.
- [32:09]
Dan LeBatard
He was solid dude, that was, I mean like he was good physically built solid. He had a touchdown pass, which is more than you can say for the Seahawks. The Seahawks won with only field goals. But for him to show up on a couple days notice, clearly out of shape, haven't played in five years against what is reputed to be the league's toughest defense, with the league's most brilliant defensive mind calling the plays. That was really impressive.
- [32:33]
Stugatz
Everyone just running like a six yard out and he throws it like as soon as he snaps it just like lobs it and it takes them like that. Just. I love that. Folks, listen up. You know my holiday pattern by now. Every single year I tell myself, listen Chris, you're going to be thoughtful this year. You're going to get good gifts. You're not going to be lazy. You're not just going to get gift cards. And this year, guys, I have news. I pulled it off. No panic, no sad little card. You know what I gave? I gave an aura frame. Like why is it so hard to find a personal gift these days? It's for the people I'm closest to. My parents, my wife, my in laws, my kid. The most important people in my world. I have no idea what I'm supposed to get them as a gift. But one thing I know, people light up when they get photos. People love, love photos. So I loaded up my aura frame with all the moments I know they'll love. My daughter being adorable, random selfies, group pictures where none of us are looking in the same direction. I kept adding them because aura lets you send unlimited photos and videos right from your phone anytime. And the best part, you can preload the thing before it even ships. So when it's open on Christmas morning, all the memories are already there. I'm telling you guys this is a great gift. And folks, for a limited time save on the perfect gift by visiting or a frame frames.com to get 35 off or's best selling Carver mat frames named number one by Wirecutter by using promo code DLB. This deal is exclusive to listeners and frames sell out fast. So order yours now and get it in time for the holidays. Support the show by mentioning us at checkout. Terms and conditions apply.
- [33:55]
Tony
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- [34:31]
Dan LeBatard
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- [35:42]
Jeremy
Don LeBatard.
- [35:44]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
- [35:44]
Stugatz
Imagine if someone told you you couldn't have a Corvette.
- [35:46]
Dan LeBatard
Stugats.
- [35:47]
Greg
I'm a grown ass man who's not, who's not filthy rich. I can't afford a Lamborghini. Well, I probably can, but.
- [36:00]
Josh Pate
This is the Dan Levitar show with these two guards.
- [36:12]
Mike Ryan
So he puts them in position for the game winning field goal. I mean, to show you. Look, he hadn't played in forever. Okay, it was third and seven and they still ran the ball so they could attempt a 60 yard field goal to take the lead. That's how much they trusted me on a big spot. But they make a 60 yard field goal to go ahead with under a minute to go.
- [36:35]
Josh Pate
It was so cool.
- [36:35]
Mike Ryan
Like he was going to win this game on the road in Seattle. I'm, I don't know what the fix is. I'm so tired of these NFL games where one team gets the ball back with, with 35, 40 seconds left. And it's just so easy to get into field goal range at the end.
- [36:51]
Jeremy
Of that little time at the end of that game. What you had happening at the end of that game is the Colts run the ball to get into position for the 60 yard field goal. And then Seattle comes back and takes the lead with a 57 yard field goal. The field goal kickers have gotten too good. They're eliminating some of the drama from these things where the quarterback doesn't have to put together a game winning drive, he just has to put together a game winning throw.
- [37:17]
Dan LeBatard
And very low key. I think the new touchback rule also helps those five years, five yards make a difference when it comes to all those long field goals.
- [37:25]
Mike Ryan
Maybe like under two minutes left, the touchback, I don't know. It's not at the 25, you know.
- [37:29]
Greg
It'S ruining the sport. The longer field goals, it's ruining the drama.
- [37:33]
Jeremy
It's not ruining the sport. The games are all so close that you can't ruin the sport.
- [37:37]
Josh Pate
You're.
- [37:38]
Jeremy
Yeah, it is ruining the drama that you're speaking of because that particular game, it was 60 yard field goal, 57 yard field goal. And then Philip Rivers haunted from the beyond on the situation he's all was in. I still gotta go 70 yards and I've gotten 11 seconds.
- [37:53]
Dan LeBatard
I can't believe we got it though. It looked like we wouldn't get it, but Philip Rivers down a score with one minute left. It was such great nostalgia. And then he hit the field goal and then we saw Philip Rivers on the sideline jawing folks and being charged up. It was a great nostalgia trip.
- [38:10]
Jeremy
I, I've actually heard Shane Gillis talk about how much he loved the Philip Rivers interaction where Philip R. 5 years ago had a touchdown at Jacksonville and he just is running like a little kid next to the Jacksonville defensive lineman. He's like 90 yard touchdown, 90 yard touchdown. And understandably, the Jacksonville defensive lineman goes to the referee and says, do you, do you see how he's talking to me? And Philip Rivers is like what? I'm not allowed to be excited? I'm not allowed to be excited. And the Jacksonville defensive lineman is like, like just don't do it near my ear. And he's like, I will do it near your ear. I will be excited near your Ear. So yesterday what ends up happening though is that Philip Rivers get you the game winning drive. Then Seattle gets the ball back and they have the game winning drive. And I was denied my Phillip Rivers purgatory because he had timeouts and 11 seconds left.
- [39:09]
Mike Ryan
I think they had all three.
- [39:10]
Jeremy
They had all three. But immediately just drops back and the first time he's throwing it downfield interception.
- [39:15]
Stugatz
Because I had that over interception.
- [39:17]
Josh Pate
That cashed that last play.
- [39:19]
Greg
Kidding me. That's an interception waiting to happen. A 44 year old guy who hadn't played in six years. Come on. The over under on int should have been 2.5.
- [39:28]
Jeremy
This was a fun curiosity that ate up the 4 o' clock window. But can you give me some Fernando Mendoza sound from the Heisman ceremony?
- [39:37]
Stugatz
This is not from the Heisman that I have. This is from him after the Big ten championship.
- [39:41]
Josh Pate
I love this sound.
- [39:41]
Jeremy
Give me some sound to just set up Mendoza before we go to Tony and what should have been a more miam Heisman speech. It sounds so beautiful.
- [39:49]
Josh Pate
I want to give all the glory to God.
- [39:50]
Jeremy
We were never supposed to be in this position. But by the glory of God, the great coaches, great teammates every we have.
- [39:56]
Josh Pate
Around us we were able to pull this off.
- [39:58]
Jeremy
Whoever thought the Hoosier would be here.
- [39:59]
Josh Pate
But now the Hoosiers are flipping champs.
- [40:01]
Tony
Let's go.
- [40:02]
Greg
Flipping flipping chips.
- [40:05]
Jeremy
Everybody said that that sounds the way Jeremy looks at Le Batard show. Put it on the poll. Does an excited Fernando Mendoza sound the way that Jeremy looks. And let's go out now to Tony who has totally prepared his Miami. There he is. We go to Tony right now in the downtown athletic club. He is going to give us a more Miami speech than the one Mendoza gave us. Do you need anything from us over here, Tone?
- [40:34]
Tony
No, Dan, I'm good. I'm ready to go. I'm just very thankful. I just wanted to get this off my chest really quick so we can wear it so you know exactly what it looks like when I have it around my neck here.
- [40:44]
Dan LeBatard
Cuban roots.
- [40:45]
Tony
Okay. So this is what I would have worn over the suit. I would have worn it just like this, kind of just so people knew and I would have flashed it. So when you're ready, I'm ready to go, Dan. I got my speech written out.
- [40:55]
Dan LeBatard
I'm very excited.
- [40:56]
Jeremy
All right, let's do this. Now this is Tony's Fernando Mendoza Heisman speech. If indeed it had been maximum Miami.
- [41:05]
Tony
All right, let's do it. Here we go. Wow. Primero que nada. Gracia javio bro. Because without him, I'm not here. I'm probably stuck on the Palmetto trying to get to the airport. And we all know how that can be at rush hour. To my parents, Gracia podolo. You taught me that if the AC is broken, you open the window. If the door is closed, you knock louder. And if that doesn't work, you break that shit down. Yes, I want to thank Miami. Not south beach, not Wynwood, not tourist Miami. The real Miami. I'm talking about Miami Hurricanes, tailgate parking lot football as a kid at the ob. Talking about Westchester. Dads yelling like they're Bill Belichick at Tamiami Park. I'm talking about Kendall. Rush hour traffic. That builds character. You wonder how I learned toughness. I learned it from having to play dominoes against drunk deals on Noche Buena. You know that they cheat, and you know they don't let you win. So you got to learn to be tough. I learned patience and discipline. Waiting for 45 minutes to go back into the pool because my abuela said that I could get una embolia if I swam too early after eating. I still don't know what that's supposed to mean. I guess it's some sort of. Of mental thing. I don't know when I'm.
- [42:07]
Jeremy
Is that an. Is that an embolism?
- [42:09]
Tony
An embolism? Yes, an embolism. If I swam too early after eating. To every Cuban American kid watching right now, I want you to listen up. Especially the ones trying to explain the rules of football to parents and grandparents who have no idea what they're looking at. To the kids that have to hear quanto when you tell your parents just how much your equipment costs, quanto? Yes. I have to buy all of this. This is for you guys. They told us to be quieter, to be smaller, to be less Miami. They said we'll never play in college football, let alone in the NFL. But, nah, that's not gonna happen. Baby. We're loud, we're late, we're Cuban, and we're not apologizing for it. So tonight, this Heisman isn't going in a trophy case, Dan. You know where it's going? It's going to La Carreta on Burn Road. Miami. Esta panosotro. Te amo, Miami.
- [42:57]
Greg
Let's go.
- [42:58]
Jeremy
Congratulations. That was. That was well done.
- [43:02]
Dan LeBatard
It was weird that Mendoza thanked his teammates. In retrospect.
- [43:07]
Jeremy
You think I want to. I want to, in honor of Tony here, give you a top five plays from yesterday that no one's talking about. Number five. Because there are plenty to choose from here. And I'm doing this. I'm doing this. I don't know if you guys noticed how many plays yesterday were impossibly well done by. With a. With a precision that's surprising. And yet no one cares because some of these games and moments weren't as important as some of the others. So you got in the Giants commander's game. You got Tracy with a touchdown catching it on his back. He wasn't in any way open because Bobby Wagner had him covered the entirety of the field. And it was a touchdown. Anyway, I need the fan. Thank you. You've got. In the Chargers game, I don't know if you guys saw all of the catches. Herbert Tajaris, I don't know how that ball was not moved as he caught it. Calais Campbell blocking a field goal because he's still Giant. Monteric Brown for Jacksonville had the single greatest interception I've ever seen. No one cares. Full body extension caught it with the back of his elbow.
- [44:23]
Tony
What a ca.
- [44:25]
Jeremy
Nobody cares. No one will remember it. It's not. It's not something that anyone is going to end up paying attention to in any way. And. And then of course, in Carolina, the late hit that resulted in the holy guacamole. You can't lose to the Saints in that spot for the division. And you saw Todd. Have you guys ever seen Todd Bowles when they lost to Atlanta, curse like that?
- [44:49]
Greg
That was nuts.
- [44:50]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, my God. Yeah, we played it on Friday. It was crazy.
- [44:53]
Stugatz
While not being angry, while he kept.
- [44:54]
Mike Ryan
His same tone, blamed all of his players.
- [44:57]
Dan LeBatard
That was wild but still alive, still leading in the NFC South, Colby Parkinson's touchdown. Counting that. That didn't make the list. What we all have eyes. We all saw that he was down a yard before.
- [45:11]
Mike Ryan
That was the one where they reviewed. And Dean Blandino's like, I don't know.
- [45:14]
Dan LeBatard
I don't know what. I don't know what they're doing.
- [45:16]
Mike Ryan
That was weird.
- [45:17]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
- [45:18]
Jeremy
Also weird. Myles Garrett sacking that many people quietly because his team stinks and nobody cares about any of their games. He's the best pass rusher there's ever been. And what better than ltu? I mean, he's doing single season sack stuff that no one's ever done. You can give it to if you want. If you want to give it to Reggie White or Lawrence Taylor, you're welcome to do it. But I'm willing to say that Myles Garrett is the most unblockable thing that there's been in the Sport. And you can argue it if you want, but he's going to be in any short conversation that you're having about this.
- [45:52]
Greg
An interesting question to me is, will he be cheated on of the depoy award because his team is so awful?
- [45:59]
Jeremy
Can you give me the sound again of Todd Bowles cursing while not actually angry?
- [46:03]
Josh Pate
What do you tell them in the locker room after a game like this? It's inexcusable.
- [46:07]
Greg
You don't make excuses.
- [46:09]
Jeremy
You gotta care enough where the hurts.
- [46:13]
Dan LeBatard
You gotta care enough where the hurts.
- [46:15]
Greg
It gotta mean something to you.
- [46:17]
Josh Pate
It's more than a job. It's your livelihood. How well do you know your job?
- [46:21]
Greg
How well can you do your job?
- [46:23]
Josh Pate
Well, you can't sugarcoat the.
- [46:24]
Greg
That it was in the excusable and.
- [46:26]
Josh Pate
There'S no answer for it. As far as no excuse for it. That's what you tell them in the locker room.
- [46:31]
Jeremy
Look in the mirror.
- [46:33]
Dan LeBatard
Still shocking. Greg, to your point about Miles Garrett being punished for being on a bad team, it is precedent from a long time ago. But Cortez Kennedy won Depoy going 2 and 14 with the Seahawks and was even named AP MVP that season.
- [46:48]
Greg
Yeah, no, that's fair. Maybe there is precedent, but I'm honestly wondering about that. Like, who are the depoy candidates? That's always a tougher award to pinpoint than the offensive.
- [46:59]
Jeremy
Jeremy, can you please give me the origins of A Little Birdie told me so.
- [47:03]
Tony
Some date back to William Shakespeare. Some date back to Greek mythology where they have Odin's raven, but this can.
- [47:10]
Josh Pate
Be traced back all the way to the Bible.
- [47:14]
Dan LeBatard
Ecclesiastes, the original Hebrew version which says.
- [47:17]
Josh Pate
Says, curse not the king. No, not in thy thought. And curse not the rich in thy bedchamber. For a bird of the air shall.
- [47:25]
Dan LeBatard
Carry the voice, and that which hath.
- [47:27]
Josh Pate
Wings shall tell the matter. Anyway, God bless you, babe, and enjoy Chinooka.