The Big Suey: The D In Fiduc (feat. David Samson)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: The D In Fiduc (feat. David Samson)
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: June 17, 2025

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1. The Rising Cost of Being a Sports Fan

The episode kicks off with a deep dive into the escalating expenses associated with being an avid sports fan. Host Chris Cote references a report by June Lee, highlighting that the average cost for a sports enthusiast to access all necessary streaming services annually has surged to $4,785—a staggering 262% increase since 2004. This spike is juxtaposed against an 87% rise in wages over the same period, sparking a heated debate about the fairness and sustainability of these costs.

• Chris Cote (02:49): "Put it on the poll at LeBatard Show. Cost of watching all the sports you want is over $4,785 because that hurts the consumer."

Billy Corben challenges this perspective by arguing that such inflationary trends are commonplace across industries, not just in sports. He emphasizes that companies continually seek revenue growth, which often translates to higher costs for consumers.

• Billy Corben (05:02): "This is not a new concept by any stretch."

Dan Le Batard shares his personal grievances, citing additional expenses incurred from subscribing to multiple streaming platforms to follow various sports, including international soccer leagues.

• Dan Le Batard (04:03): "It's super expensive to be able to watch all the sports that you want these days."

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2. Boston Red Sox Ownership and Team Dynamics

The conversation shifts to the Boston Red Sox, focusing on recent ownership decisions and team management issues. Chris Cote introduces the topic by highlighting a trade involving Rafael Devers, suggesting that the ownership group has become disorganized and detrimental to team morale.

• Chris Cote (12:26): "It's a really fascinating trade for a lot of different reasons. One of the most interesting, I think because it signals that the Boston Red Sox ownership group is now a clown show."

Billy Corben provides insider commentary, criticizing the Red Sox's handling of player relationships and organizational culture.

• Billy Corben (12:26): "They are now a clown show. They've got multiple World Series. This is your former guy, John Henry... He does not like getting on a plane to Kansas City to talk to Devers. Total turd in the clubhouse."

The discussion delves into how such management decisions impact team performance and fan perception, with a particular focus on maintaining a positive clubhouse environment.

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3. Miami Marlins’ Financial Strategies and Player Contracts

David Sampson joins the conversation to shed light on the Miami Marlins' financial strategies, especially concerning player contracts. The Marlins are currently paying $10 million annually for Anthony Stanton due to a trade orchestrated by Derek Jeter. This decision diverts payroll funds to the Yankees, leaving the Marlins' on-field performance financially constrained.

• David Sampson (09:53): "So the Marlins are paying $10 million a year of Stanton's contract to the Yankees."

Billy Corben elaborates on the implications, mentioning that the Marlins are struggling with budget allocations despite the high costs.

• Billy Corben (10:44): "Sandy Alcantara makes, I want to say 17 stu gots and they're trying to trade him, but he stinks so badly that they can't get anything other than Jordan Hicks..."

Sampson discusses the challenges of balancing payroll while striving to build a competitive team, highlighting the intricacies of sports management and financial planning.

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4. Trusts, Fiduciary Duties, and Personal Relationships

A lighter yet poignant segment explores the concept of trusts and fiduciary responsibilities, particularly in personal and professional relationships. Billy Corben shares his experiences as a trustee for eleven trusts, emphasizing the serious nature of managing others' financial and personal affairs.

• Billy Corben (23:53): "I'm a trustee to 11 trusts. They're meant to protect people from themselves or to help people attain the best they can be."

The conversation takes a humorous turn as hosts probe the boundaries of attending funerals based on personal relationships and professional conduct. This segment underscores the complexities of maintaining trust and respect in high-stakes environments like professional sports organizations.

• Billy Corben (25:10): "You're a douche if you're a trustee."

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5. On-Site Interaction: Predictions and Community Engagement

In an engaging on-site segment, hosts Casey Paquette and David Sampson join the show at a local Miami Dade College to discuss sports predictions and community involvement. The trio participates in a live trivia game, predicting the outcomes of hockey matches and interacting with fans.

• Casey Paquette (27:25): "Scott Melon."

• Chris Cote (30:19): "Ask him to name the Edmonton Oilers."

This interactive portion not only highlights the show's connection with the local community but also reinforces the passionate sports culture in South Florida.

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6. Technical Glitches and Humor Amidst Serious Discussions

Throughout the episode, technical issues with video playback serve as a backdrop for humor and camaraderie among the hosts. These moments of levity provide a balance to the more serious discussions on financial burdens and team management, showcasing the show's dynamic and personable nature.

• Chris Cote (08:00): "Video just went down for a second."

• Dan Le Batard (36:37): "I'll see you there, Stu."

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7. Concluding Remarks and Final Thoughts

As the episode wraps up, the hosts reflect on the discussions, reiterating the challenges faced by sports fans and teams alike. They emphasize the importance of understanding the financial dynamics at play and the impact on both consumers and the sports industry.

• Chris Cote (37:11): "Does it sound fun to ride a roller coaster in hell? Yes or no?"

The episode concludes on a thoughtful note, encouraging listeners to engage in the ongoing conversation about the evolving landscape of sports consumption.

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Notable Quotes:

• Chris Cote (02:49): "It's $17 a month just for everything."
• Billy Corben (05:34): "This is not a new concept by any stretch."
• Dan Le Batard (04:43): "If I want to watch Brazilian soccer, I'm probably going well over $4,000."
• Billy Corben (25:15): "You're a douche if you're a trustee."

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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a comprehensive exploration of the financial strains on sports fans, the intricate dynamics within sports team management, and the personal responsibilities that come with fiduciary duties. Through lively debates, personal anecdotes, and community interactions, the hosts provide listeners with insightful perspectives on the evolving world of sports and its broader economic implications.

Transcript

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[David Sampson]

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[Chris Cote]

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[Stugotz]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings.

[Chris Cote]

Why are you listening to this show?

[Stugotz]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Chris Cote]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Stugotz]

I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Chris Cote]

David Sampson of Nothing Personal will join us in moments here to discuss an assortment of different things. June Lee is reporting. How much do you imagine stugots that it costs right now to be a sports fan on average? If you just want to get all of the subscriptions and streaming you need on average to watch the things the average sports fan wants to watch.

[Stugotz]

Like $17.

[Chris Cote]

It's $17.

[Tony Reali]

What? A day?

[Stugotz]

A month just for everything. Yeah. What's the number?

[Chris Cote]

It is 4,000. What so good. $785. You have gotten so much better. This game. Yes. No a year. 4,000. Put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Cost of watching all the sports you want over or under $4,785 because that hurts the consumer, the customer. The streaming age has created all sorts of oil wells for the teams, but they are really alienating their customer with. What are you shaking your head about already, Sampson?

[Billy Corben]

Revenues down for the teams. What are you talking about? The lack of cable, the lack of local TV revenue in baseball is hurting teams, not helping them.

[Chris Cote]

The.

[Billy Corben]

You're going to tell me what are.

[Chris Cote]

You talking going to tell me? The NFL and basketball are not being aided by new streams of money that allow them to have bigger and better television contracts.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, their revenues are up and payroll is tied to revenues. So player payroll is up as well. It's totally tied into one another.

[Chris Cote]

And.

[Billy Corben]

And so are you talking about fans being hurt because they're paying more to watch games? The NFL?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, yeah, that's what he's talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

The consumer, which you just bypassed.

[Chris Cote]

You hate the consumer. You don't care about the consumer.

[Billy Corben]

I didn't say that. I just don't want you to mislead. Now, if you're saying that you have to buy every single streaming package to watch every local MLB team or a local NBA team, that's not a fair way to do the comparison. But I didn't see the article, but I doubt that's what you're saying.

[Chris Cote]

I'm saying that if you want to be an average sports fan and just watch whatever Red Sox games because you live in Boston, this has been done by June Lee more scientifically than you are presently doing it, and he's come up with an average sports fan. Cost of to watch your teams if you want to watch the things that sports fans are crazy about. It's almost $5,000 a year, but am.

[Billy Corben]

I getting anything else? Are you saying that for Amazon to watch the Yankees on Friday night, I'm doing Apple, but I don't watch anything else on Apple, just sports.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm also telling you for the first time in my life, being a sports fan in I have to pay extra to watch the Miami Heat and the Miami Marlins and I made the decision not to because they acquired Terry Rozier and I'm a man of principle. But also, that's probably undercutting it because as a soccer fan, if I like soccer in Portugal, I have to find another streamer that does that. If I want to watch Brazilian soccer, if I want to watch South American competition, I'm probably going well over $4,000. And if I want to watch it in HD or 4K even more. It's super expensive to be able to watch all the sports that you want these days.

[Billy Corben]

I'm sorry, what is your expectation that you just be able to get any Sort of content you want for free.

[Chris Cote]

That's what it's been like.

[Dan Le Batard]

What the reason never had to pay extra.

[Chris Cote]

The reason you're going to get this hostility is because you're now trying to charge something for you that you were giving away for free. It's why this show's not behind a paywall. I did not, we did not want to do that to our fans.

[Stugotz]

Well, consumers were never getting it for free. They didn't know it was on their cable bill. Right, Understood.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was paying for a cable package that gave me the rsn. But I still pay for that cable package. And now I, I have to pay an additional whatever to watch the Miami Heat and Miami Marlins. That's not something I've ever had to make a decision on.

[Chris Cote]

What is David arguing here? Because all I said was the existence of the streaming services has made it so. Basketball and football have all sorts of extra sources of revenue. That cost has been put on the consumer. What do I have wrong?

[Billy Corben]

It's happening. It happens in every industry across all time. Every company is looking to increase its revenue at the expense of the consumer. Whether there's a fuel surcharge, whether you go to the grocery store and every now bag costs a nickel, whatever. When you rent a car, there's a car tax in Miami. There's the hotel tax for tourists or for people who prefer to be on the hour. So this is not a new concept by any stretch.

[Chris Cote]

All right, let me read this to you. In 2004, Jun Lee, he's a hardcore Boston fan. He would have spent $1,321 to follow the his or her favorite team. That includes tickets, TV access and merchandise. Today, 20 years later, that number is $4,785. That's a 262% jump. Wages during that stretch have risen 87%.

[Dan Le Batard]

And June's a very good reporter. His whole new endeavor is speaking for the fan. I'm sure he obsessed over this data.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I'm not trying to sully his story or his data. I merely just want there to be proper context. Which is to say that there have been increases. You say wages are up 82%. Exactly. How is he calculating that? In what class is that an all in? Or is it just the wages of those who would spend $1,000 20 years ago and the four and have to spend the $4,000 today? I just want to make sure always that there's apples to apples so that we can then compare it to industries. What your car costs, what it costs to Go grocery shopping. What it costs to go on vacation. I just don't want sports to be singled out.

[Chris Cote]

You want it to be apples to apples so that the owners can own all the apples.

[Billy Corben]

I'm not an owner. I never was an owner. I was a team president, and you loved saying that. I'm all for the owners. I have. I did something to the Red Sox today that already. I have a problem. So I'm not exactly carrying the water for owners by any stretch.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, by some stretches, you are carrying water for owners. It's not an absolutist of by any stretch, but let's play some video here and talk about the Boston Red Sox and their new ownership situation, because our.

[Mike Ryan]

Video just went down for a second. I'll give you a thumbs up when we got.

[Chris Cote]

Okay, so the Raphael Devers. That's good. Good timing on that. The Rafael.

[Stugotz]

Why is he laughing, Sam?

[Chris Cote]

Well, he's laughing at our just situation. Video went down for a second. Like, that's not something that happens very often when you're watching major networks.

[Tony Reali]

He had the stop sign up. You're running through. We were about to go into a disaster.

[Dan Le Batard]

But he's not going to lament your polish or lack thereo.

[Chris Cote]

No, he's a team player, so just. Okay, to be clear, we're not going to lament my polish. I'm supposed to know that this means nothing works?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes. Yeah, generally.

[Chris Cote]

All right. I didn't have the universe rounding third.

[Stugotz]

You would think we'd be a sports universal sign.

[Chris Cote]

You think I'd be good at this point for knowing what the sign is for? Nothing here works. But I'm not good at it.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, that. I mean, there isn't a single facet of my life where two hands up mean go.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm being told. I'm being told. We're lucky we're on air right now.

[Tony Reali]

Yeah, historically, we should just assume it's not working.

[Dan Le Batard]

Have you checked the news? We're lucky to be alive right now. So why don't you just chill out, bud?

[Chris Cote]

We're doing our best.

[Billy Corben]

Don't you have someone in your ear, Dan? Isn't someone saying, all right, video go. Or is it just.

[Chris Cote]

Well, no, the funny thing. The funny thing about it is the last thing that was in my ear was, we've got the Devers video. Like, that's. That's.

[Tony Reali]

But they have it. It just doesn't work.

[Chris Cote]

That part's unspoken.

[Stugotz]

No one updated.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know where it is.

[Chris Cote]

Step one.

[Mike Ryan]

You know where it is.

[Chris Cote]

I can go in the back and watch it if I want. I just can't show to anybody else.

[Dan Le Batard]

Text it to me. I'll play it from my phone.

[Chris Cote]

You know what? I'm going to go look at it now. You tell me all about Stanton's return and Ohtani throwing 100 miles an hour. I'm going to go look and see if I can get that fixed on edge.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's game six cups, and I want.

[Billy Corben]

To say one thing about Stanton because he played for the Yankees. I hope that your audience is. I don't know what hour we're in because, Chris, you completely threw me off because it's Tuesday, so I got vacuum noise in the background. I had extra shows today, so I'm sorry if you hear that background noise. It doesn't normally happen because it's supposed to be Wednesday. But are you aware if this is local, how much the Marlins are paying for Stanton over the next three years?

[Mike Ryan]

No.

[Stugotz]

No, no.

[Billy Corben]

So the Marlins are paying $10 million a year of Stanton's contract to the Yankees. Part of the trade that was done by Jeter when Jeter joined the Marlins was to move Stanton to the Yankees. And if Stanton did not opt out of his deal, which he did not, and it continued on, The Marlins gave $30 million, but it was so far in the future that Marlins fans didn't even think about it. But the future's today. The Future has started. $10 million of your payroll, of the Marlins. Payroll is not on the field for the Marlins. It's on the field for the Yankees. And returned last night after only 3 reh and went 2 for 4. Hit the ball hard. Now don't mention the fact the Yankees got shut out one nothing in 11 innings. The fact is Stanton is back.

[Stugotz]

Are they paying anyone on their roster $10 million?

[Billy Corben]

Yes. Sandy. Sandy Alcantara makes, I want to say 17 stu gats and that they're trying to trade him, but he stinks so badly that they can't get anything other than Jordan, Hicks. Harrison, like a number four prospect and maybe another guy is the best they could get for Sandy and they're trying to do better. Look at all those people.

[Dan Le Batard]

All these people not wanting to let Dan down. It's really a blessing. He looks at this as a curse when really look at all that compassion.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think there's enough cooks in the kitchen.

[Dan Le Batard]

I trust the ball.

[Stugotz]

Why?

[Billy Corben]

We have budget problems in metal art.

[Stugotz]

The ball guy can fix not watching Ethan.

[Chris Cote]

You can tell Ethan can possibly get out of there.

[Stugotz]

Can always fix it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ethan can possibly be Helping the situation that's on even as a body double is working for me.

[Mike Ryan]

I just heard Ethan say special board.

[Chris Cote]

Special. There are a lot of people. Everybody in the company right now is working on getting this video fixed so that we can simply play to you. Play for you. The Boston Red Sox organization saying again and again that the problem that they had with Raphael Devers was one of alignment.

[Stugotz]

Right. One and out without him. I mean, budget cuts.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'd posit that NASA doesn't look like that at the moment.

[Chris Cote]

We've got. I'm calling in resources from all over. I'm asking Tony Reality to grab all Panthers fans in the region, bring them into the control room and see if we can get the video running. David, what did you do the Red Sox this morning on Nothing Personal that got them upset? And what do you make of this entire situation? A really fascinating trade for a lot of different reasons. One of the most interesting, I think because it signals that the Boston Red Sox ownership group is now a clown show.

[Billy Corben]

A clown show. A clown show. They've got the most trophies. This is your former guy, John Henry. They've got multiple World Series. We only got you one. He went to Boston and got you a four spot. And number two, the minute John Henry had aboard his plane to Kansas City, game over. Des was done. John does not like getting on a plane to Kansas City to talk to Devers. Total turd in the clubhouse. And they said it in their press avail. They just said it under the word alignment. They said it under the word atmosphere, roster flexibility. It's all a bunch of poppycock. What they were saying is we're not going to have someone as selfish as Devers getting paid as much as he's getting paid. And the Giants were willing to pay it all because they put the D in desperado. So send them there. See you later, and we'll reallocate the money and keep going. Thank you very much.

[Chris Cote]

All right, I got a couple of questions. The D and desperado, where's that saying come from? Why did you use it there? And can you be careful with your language? Calling a human being a total turd.

[Billy Corben]

So the expression actually is a baseball expression. And it's an inside baseball. That's the real problem you should have with what I did. It's turds in the clubhouse. And what you try to do is not have that. And the reason is that if you have too many and they're spread out in the clubhouse, they can actually infect players who otherwise would be great both off and on the field. And so you're monitoring that. And what the Red Sox came out and said yesterday is we've got a lot of good young players, and what we can't afford is to have those young players learn bad habits or learn not to be team players. And guess what? To do that we are going to show that if you are not going to do what we say goodbye. And they got David Ortiz to agree. Of course he's paid by them. And he came out and said, hey, they're the boss. He got Garrett Crochet, who just signed an extension, I grant you, but got Crochet to say, hey, good night and good luck. Rafi, see you later. We're good from here.

[Stugotz]

David, as Marlins team president, I'm wondering, did you ever root for the Marlins to lose a postseason game because you wanted the series to come back home so you can make money for that game?

[Billy Corben]

I. So no. Oh, come on. Is the short answer.

[Chris Cote]

No? I believe him because he would. He would normally. Normally, if you've got him on that one, he would be honest, blushing a little bit. No, he would go in and laugh at you. What his tell on this one has been in. When you've got him, he's like, that's a great question. You got me. And then he answers it honestly. My guess is if he's ever rooted for his team to lose for a home game, he'd tell us no.

[Billy Corben]

And I would. The problem is we didn't get enough of the revenue during the playoffs. The rules in baseball, is it shared with other teams, all the other teams, Central baseball, it's shared with the umpires. Everyone gets a piece of the action. So for me, it was more important to get to the next round because that would mean more revenue for us the following season and then the possibility of winning it all. But if you have a chance to win, you win immediately. Now, we played the maximum number of home games in O3 that you can play, right? But I would not have rooted for to lose purposefully to get a home game. If you're saying that Oklahoma City is going to throw game six in order to get a game seven, I can assure you that is not the case.

[Stugotz]

What if you got all the revenue? Would your opinion change? You probably would have rooted for the team to lose.

[Billy Corben]

Big difference.

[Stugotz]

I know it is.

[Billy Corben]

So Pro Player, as you know, was a really big stadium. And so we were drawing sold out after the first wild card game against Frisco, we sold out every other home game. And so you're talking about Millions and millions of dollars.

[Stugotz]

I know.

[Billy Corben]

So the answer is, if we got all the revenue, we would want the extra home game.

[Tony Reali]

Would you? In game six, 2003, Josh Becket's day, you're about to win the World Series. Did you ever think, man, I hope he blows this because winning in game seven would be so much more fun?

[Billy Corben]

No. Not one time. Once you win a World Series, you can ride that for the rest of your life. And I was sitting there watching saying, we're six outs away from me being able to parlay this into a lifetime gig. So, no, I didn't want to take the chance.

[Chris Cote]

David, just so that you know. According to June Lee's report, if you subscribe to every live service with Sports, subscribe to YouTube, TV, MLB, NBA League Pass, NFL Sunday, Ticket, Peacock, Apple TV Plus Max, Amazon prime, and Paramount. That alone is $2,600 a year just starting there. That it?

[Billy Corben]

I thought you get more than sports, Dan.

[Chris Cote]

Understood. But if you want just sports and don't want the other things that are in sports, you still have to pay for the sports.

[Billy Corben]

I don't. I do not understand what you are saying.

[Chris Cote]

You do understand what I'm saying.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a lot of money.

[Chris Cote]

Let's say you're just a sports fan and you don't the studio from Apple tv. All you want is the games. That's what you have to pay to get all access to sports on television.

[Billy Corben]

But there are things throughout life that you have to pick and choose what you can afford and what you want to spend your money on. And you make choices, which is why Apple wants to give you all sorts of other content of all shapes and sizes so that there's something for you that would be worth your while. So if your monthly cost for Apple tv, and I can't believe I'm doing a commercial forum, but if you're watching one original movie or one original show that you like and you get sports on top of that, it's already paid for itself in terms of your disposable income allocation.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Corben]

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[Tony Reali]

The Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Billy Corben]

Can I do a quick economic primer here? In any sort of economy, when there is inflation, it causes things to inflate at different rates. What you are saying and what he is saying is that the price to the consumer has gone up more than wages and because there is wage inflation as well. And what he's then saying is that makes it definitionally more unfair. And I'm arguing the opposite. Forget it, Dan. You can go back to your control room and lack a video because that'll be entertaining.

[Chris Cote]

Show at LeBatard Show. Put it on the poll at LeBatard Show. Do you fall asleep when someone tries to give you a quick economic primer at LeBatard show? Time now to play.

[Stugotz]

Nothing will get you there.

[Chris Cote]

Funeral this here is is an attempt to humanize David Sampson as he alienates the customer by giving him a series of questions about human beings who have died. Would he attend their funeral? What do you have, Mike? First as a nominee, Clark Spencer.

[Stugotz]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Cote]

Miami Herald beatrider Clark Spencer. Greg Cody's close friend and horse racing syndicate advisor. Important detail.

[Billy Corben]

I like Clark Spencer. He was a good journalist.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh no.

[Billy Corben]

If I were. No, even if I were. If I were in town and in the same county, I would do it. But I wouldn't fly and I wouldn't drive far. But I would be sad.

[Chris Cote]

So.

[Stugotz]

But not one county.

[Chris Cote]

But you wouldn't go one county. So if you're in Dade and he's being buried or there's a service in Broward, you're not getting in traffic.

[Stugotz]

It.

[Billy Corben]

Correct. But in the same county I would go to that. That's a great.

[Mike Ryan]

What in Rome. But he'd be sad.

[Chris Cote]

Did you.

[Tony Reali]

He'd be dead.

[Chris Cote]

Did you go to the funeral of Juan Rodriguez, a former Sun Sentinel beat writer who did indeed die?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, he did. So a little thing that you can say that, that we did as a Marlins organization. He was a beat writer. He died with two kids and we. We paid for his kids complete education. We did a trust. Never told anyone until just now.

[Mike Ryan]

That's nice.

[Chris Cote]

That is nice. But it's not what I asked you. It's an FYI.

[Billy Corben]

No, but I wanted you to know that we know him. We think about him. He was a reporter for the Sun Sentinel who tragically died with two young kids who are now, I assume maybe out of college. But the trust was helpful to them and I Hope they're well. I did attend his funeral.

[Stugotz]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

Wow. A big surprise there. So how many trusts like that have you created quietly over the years that people don't know about because they don't.

[Billy Corben]

Think you're a human being More than you. You. You know this. So more than you know.

[Chris Cote]

Well, that's why I asked.

[Billy Corben]

Yes. If I knew, I would say that I'm currently the trustee to. I actually have the number, which is strange, but it was just tax time, so you have to have the number because the trust pay taxes. I'm a trustee to 11 trusts.

[Chris Cote]

Are those all marlins related quiet trusts?

[Billy Corben]

No, they're different trusts that have been created by people who wanted me to take care of it. Some were created for marlins. Marlins related things that I still am a part of. But there are all sorts of different reasons. Trusts are meant to protect people from themselves or to help people attain the best they can be. And all of them are for education or other such items that can be helpful to people.

[Chris Cote]

Put it on the poll, please. Do you associate David Sampson with trust? Can you go ahead and put on the whole at Levitard show? It's not going to work out well for him. What else? 11's a lot. How many of them are marlins related? Do you not want to answer the question?

[Billy Corben]

It's just. Dan, it's. This is. It's serious stuff in that it's a trust.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's in the word.

[Billy Corben]

It's a fiduciary duty. You are responsible to help people. And so I take that extremely serious.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put the D in fiduche.

[Chris Cote]

Put the douche.

[Billy Corben]

You're a douche if you're a trustee.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, not you, David.

[Mike Ryan]

We're saying Dan.

[Chris Cote]

We're saying Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

Omar Manaya.

[Billy Corben]

He was just nice to me recently with something on, nothing personal. And it got me thinking that I should think about whether I would maybe attend his funeral in case his name ever came up. But it can't make up for the way it was when he was an opposing gm. So he's still a no. And there is a way to go from no to yes, but it requires an amount of rehab that Omar has not yet done. So I'm going to stay with no.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait, did you just admit that this game is kind of infiltrating your life? You have interactions. You're like, I wonder if I would attend this person's funeral. How far does this person have to go?

[Billy Corben]

Mike, this game started because I think about this stuff before the game started. I'm trying to sort of plan My responsibility.

[Stugotz]

How many more good interactions do you need to have with Omar Manaya before you would attend his funeral?

[Billy Corben]

Funeral, it has to be like eight in a row. And then death has to happen almost immediately after the 8th. Because if it's all good interactions and then 30 years pass, I'm not going to the funeral. But eight good ones, then death.

[Stugotz]

Death right after. Right.

[Billy Corben]

Wait.

[Tony Reali]

So, David, so for you, does it start with you attending someone's funeral and they do something that you no longer attend, or do they have to do something to get you to the funeral? Like if you just meet a person, you're going to attend their funeral or you're not.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, no, I'm at a straight. No. Everybody's at no.

[Tony Reali]

So they have to earn your attendance. They don't lose your attendance.

[Billy Corben]

Remember, Billy, it's all time for me. It's all about time.

[Chris Cote]

We need to interrupt the proceedings right now in one of our most popular games because Tony Reali is ready and he appears to have found Panther Central right here. Look at Tony Reali in the middle of South Florida. Yes. Look at all that positivity.

[Casey Paquette]

My name is Casey Paquette.

[David Sampson]

Yes, this is Casey.

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

And look at the hat here. We found them.

[Chris Cote]

We found them.

[David Sampson]

Are we on the precipice of a Stanley cup championship tonight?

[Casey Paquette]

I believe so. I believe so. We're all gonna stay up late and watch it.

[David Sampson]

Staying up late and watch it.

[Mike Ryan]

The biggest endorsement from Miami.

[David Sampson]

Where are you from?

[Chris Cote]

Miami.

[David Sampson]

Miami. Look at this guy. Yeah. You see? So I found the positivity to you. When the Panthers score tonight, what are we gonna do?

[Chris Cote]

Let's go. Yes. Take a one lead.

[David Sampson]

When they take a one nothing.

[Dan Le Batard]

We.

[David Sampson]

You put me on a mission impossible. You said you had no shot. What do I got? Right here. I got a shot. Look at these beautiful people.

[Chris Cote]

We want the Cup. We want the Cup.

[Stugotz]

Get him going, Tony.

[Chris Cote]

We want the Cup.

[David Sampson]

We want the Cup. Let's go. We want the Cup.

[Chris Cote]

That's the next question. Want the Cup. We want the Cup. Cup. We want the Cup. Ask the guy. Not. Not wearing. No, not him.

[Stugotz]

Not him.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stays here. Cuz it's here.

[David Sampson]

Well, we. He wants to say the cup stays here. Directing here, my friend.

[Chris Cote]

All right, good.

[David Sampson]

I know this is for hockey.

[Billy Corben]

I.

[David Sampson]

You grew up playing hockey. I know it. I know it. Bellingham, get over here. Okay, so who's your favorite Panther all time?

[Casey Paquette]

Scott Melon.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right.

[Stugotz]

Somebody else. Anybody but that guy. Anyone else?

[Chris Cote]

Anybody?

[Casey Paquette]

I went to school and I watched him play when I was going to school.

[Mike Ryan]

He was.

[Casey Paquette]

He was playing for the Badgers.

[David Sampson]

Yes. Okay, what's that? Come on down. Who's your favorite athlete then?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, my favorite athlete. I say. Michael. Vic.

[David Sampson]

Michael. Vic.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, that one's loaded.

[David Sampson]

So, all right, anybody predictions for tonight? What is the score going to be? Panthers. What? Edmonton. What? Nine zero nine zero. There it is.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was worried about 2814, honestly.

[David Sampson]

All right, we're going to find some more, but here we are, the heart of Miami here. A walking tour. Mr. Casey, one last word for the Panthers tonight.

[Casey Paquette]

Yeah, Panthers. It's probably going to go into double or triple overtime. That's just the way this series has gone. It's going to be great. Oyster cup here tonight, game seven. We know you're a great road team, but also you're a great home team.

[David Sampson]

So real quick, what did I walk into here? This is a walking history tour. The magic city. Let me. What is this?

[Casey Paquette]

Yeah, so I. I do tours and this is Miami Dade College and the. The college.

[David Sampson]

College.

[Chris Cote]

College, yes, college.

[David Sampson]

What's the mascot of Miami Dade College? What's the mascot?

[Chris Cote]

The Sharks.

[David Sampson]

All right, the Sharks.

[Tony Reali]

Okay, Ask them if David's paying for any of their colleagues.

[Casey Paquette]

Nice walk downtown and we're looking at all the historic buildings and all the historic stories and I'm sharing that with the class.

[Chris Cote]

So.

[Dan Le Batard]

So.

[David Sampson]

So Dan is telling me right now, if it is 9 nothing, he's paying tuition for the young man who got the. Who got. Who got the prediction score right? Is that right?

[Chris Cote]

That is correct.

[David Sampson]

I will.

[Chris Cote]

I will agree to that deal. If it is indeed 9 nothing tonight, I will agree to pay for his.

[Casey Paquette]

I'm not sure that Edmonton's gonna go down that. That easily.

[Chris Cote]

Tony, do me a favor. Ask anybody other than him to tell me what the Edmonton blank are. Ask anyone there.

[David Sampson]

We have one trivia question. Yep, one trivia question. This is not for a scholarship, but it could be for something else.

[Chris Cote]

The name.

[David Sampson]

Look at everybody backing away. Are you getting them? Look at their feet backing away. Nobody wants the trivia question. Florida Panthers are playing the team from Edmonton. What is the name of the team from? Edmonton Oilers.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[David Sampson]

What's your name? Hockey Town. There he is, you see? Hockeytown usa. Thank you very much, everybody.

[Chris Cote]

Ask him to name. N. Oiler.

[Dan Le Batard]

You stop.

[Stugotz]

There you go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Samson's in charge of the trust.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[David Sampson]

Be good to yourselves and to each other. All right, guys, we.

[Chris Cote]

We're.

[David Sampson]

We're here. We're going to go to the firehouse right now. I'm going to ride the pole, okay?

[Chris Cote]

Get over there. Thank you. Be careful with that high pressure air over there. There's a lot of high pressure air over there. We will come back to Tony Reali in a second. David. I don't know if we're. Go ahead and cue that happy music again because I want to continue that.

[Billy Corben]

What is that about high pressure air? What is that?

[Dan Le Batard]

High pressure system.

[Chris Cote]

No, they're behind him. It said warning, high pressure air on the truck and giant letters.

[Dan Le Batard]

Cliff Lloyd.

[Stugotz]

Oh, wow.

[Chris Cote]

Floyd's a good one.

[Stugotz]

He has to.

[Billy Corben]

No, we've had some recovery since he claims we didn't tell him he was going to be traded. And he was very anti me and we had a problem, but we lived together very in the same neighborhood for a long time up in Broward. And so there was an amount of recovery that then went away. And so then the clock got reset. So I'm back to a no.

[Chris Cote]

How about Al Avilock?

[Billy Corben]

No.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

How about Izzy Gutierrez?

[Stugotz]

O.

[Billy Corben]

Well, that depends on a few things happening here in the next few months or years. Oh, Jesus. But I would say that he's gone from a no chance toilet pants to a definite possibility. But again, so. So as an example, were it to happen now, yes, of course. We're all at metal art together. We're teammates. So, you know, I didn't hear you.

[Chris Cote]

Lives in Fort Lauderdale. Just so you know. That was no.

[Billy Corben]

But you're a co worker, so no matter what, I would. I would attend your funeral.

[Stugotz]

You're worth a county.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, yeah. You're worth multiple counties. Not. Not even a flight. Because I would fly to Florida to do that for Izzy. But if Izzy dies when he's supposed to, you know, in his 90s or hundreds, I would assume we won't be coworkers, and probably that would turn into a no. So that's a yes to a no.

[Chris Cote]

David, we have four minutes left. And I do want to crank through some things here quickly. So let's just play now. That video does indeed work. And I'm not getting the stop sign from my third base coach. All of the times that they mentioned alignment, as it referred to Rafael Devers while talking about what David is calling a total turd in the clubhouse.

[Craig Breslow]

Alignment. We couldn't find alignment.

[Tony Reali]

You failed to reach alignment.

[Craig Breslow]

It just was that alignment. Alignment in alignment of complete alignment.

[Tony Reali]

We weren't able to achieve that alignment.

[Craig Breslow]

Never want to. To be in this situation where you can't find alignment, can't get to alignment.

[Tony Reali]

Failing to reach that alignment. I think I also shoulder a significant Responsibility here and you know, failing to. To reach that alignment. Ultimately, as Sam has. Has pointed out, you know, this kind of lack of alignment, we. We failed to reach that alignment, came.

[Craig Breslow]

To the conclusion that we did not have a full alignment. We moved on.

[Chris Cote]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

A lot of.

[Chris Cote]

A lot there. David, what are your thoughts? And just put back up on the screen the incredibly sad background of the second person in that video so we can see it defeated. Not that guy, the other guy. The sad alignment behind him, the misalignment behind him. He wants to simply promote what that is behind him. And instead we see that is an incredibly sad cubicle of concrete there in the bowels of Fenway Park.

[Billy Corben]

No. So actually that's Craig Breslow, who is the chief baseball officer who is with the team. That's the manager's office where they would do a pre and post game avail. So that is actually the backdrop that they're obligated to have with MassMutual as the sponsor.

[Chris Cote]

The rest of it, it's supposed to be a little closer, so you only get the back of it. But you mentioned Breslow and I did find the reporting interesting on Carl Mosh, the player development guy who had been there since 2017, who got fired because he said of Breslo while getting off a zoom at the end, he said, thanks, Brez, you bleeping stiff. And then he was immediately fired because he didn't know he was on a zoom mic.

[Billy Corben]

I'm sorry, Dan. With all the zooms you do, if you were as the c. As the person in charge of the company, if there were a zoom with your employees and somebody, when the zoom was over, said Le Batar, that turd. I hate him. You would just be like, oh, see you tomorrow at 9.

[Chris Cote]

Happens all the time. And I don't fire any.

[Stugotz]

Anybody.

[Chris Cote]

I don't fight.

[Billy Corben]

Well, that's a U issue.

[Chris Cote]

Well, look at your asking. You're asking me that question. You know I'm not going to do that.

[Billy Corben]

But you are being critical of Breslow for firing that employee. You're going to have, David, the rest of your staff if you don't fire that employee, every one of them.

[Chris Cote]

I won't.

[Billy Corben]

And you'd have me.

[Stugotz]

Would have you do it.

[Chris Cote]

I don't fire anybody.

[Billy Corben]

I'm right still.

[Chris Cote]

That's correct. What do you. What do you think I keep you around for? Let's crank through the. You guys want to do this again?

[Dan Le Batard]

Burke Badenhope.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, the hopper.

[Billy Corben]

I like the hopper. And I'd want to see whether it was an oversized casket because I haven't necessarily been to too many funerals of six 5ers, so that interests me because I always wondered if I'll be in, like, in a small casket because I don't want the extra leg room. So I may go just for casket sort of understanding and knowledge.

[Chris Cote]

I've never thought of what he's presently presenting to us. And now we only have a minute left. So I can't get to Ohtani throwing 100 miles an hour. I can't get. Get to Stanton. I can't get to.

[Stugotz]

We got to.

[Chris Cote]

To the Knicks. I can't get to Stephen A. Smith playing solitaire, But I. I can get to David's casket. You can't put him in a regular siiz casket. It would look ridiculous. Correct.

[Mike Ryan]

He's sliding all over the place.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. He would take issue with paying full price.

[Billy Corben]

No, it's not that. I just don't want to be stapled down. I want to be like. Like you're on a ride, Like a carnival ride. I like a casket that. That I fit in, but it would.

[Chris Cote]

Just sort of be a. It wouldn't be a regulation casket. Right. It would be.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, would it be funded by tourist tax dollars?

[Billy Corben]

By people who use hotels by the hour? Yes.

[Stugotz]

Do you think you're going to be riding roller coasters in hell? I mean.

[Billy Corben]

That would be fun, but. I'll see you there, Stu.

[Stugotz]

Yes, you will. And we'll both see our bridles. How about that?

[Chris Cote]

See you guys later. See you later, David. Always funny at Lebanon show. Put it on the poll, please. Does it sound fun to ride a roller coaster in hell? Yes or no?

[Dan Le Batard]

Howdy, folks. It's Mike Ryan. Now, if you've been listening to the show a lot lately, you've heard so much playoff talk. Playoff hoops. Down here in South Florida, we're especially enamored with playoff hockey. It's not just limited to the playoffs. Motorsports, tennis, golf. It's truly one of the best times in the sporting calendar. And with the weather outside warming up, it's just perfect to hop in a pool, maybe grill up some food, but most certainly crack open some Miller lights. I just described a pretty perfect day, didn't I? And it culminates with Miller time. There is something about a perfect grilling day. The sun's out, friends show up, and that first sip of Miller Lite just hits different. I've been stocking up the cooler with it for years. This year, Miller Lite turns 50. That is five decades of cookout. Shouts laughs and ice cold moments that never miss. And if you've listened to the show for its 20 year existence, you know this to be true. Miller Lite Great Taste 96 calories Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you. Or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. Cheers to 50 years of Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Co. Milwaukee, WI 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces.

[Chris Cote]

Look.

[Dan Le Batard]

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