The Big Suey: The Dog and Pony Show (feat. David Samson)

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: The Dog and Pony Show (feat. David Samson)
Date: October 23, 2025

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Main Theme

This episode, recorded live from the Elser Hotel in Miami, focuses on breaking news within the NBA involving federal investigations into high-profile figures: Miami Heat's Terry Rozier and Portland Trail Blazers’ head coach Chauncey Billups, both entangled in gambling scandals. The crew analyzes the implications for the league, team responses, and the broader web of legalized gambling’s impact on sports integrity. Hinging on real-time news, the discussion is interlaced with characteristic banter, irreverence, and a few wild tangents—think vaudeville and Amsterdam stories—for comic relief.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NBA Gambling Scandal: Real-Time Reaction

• [02:54-04:10]
  Dan explains why Amin Elhassan is off the show to cover the rapidly developing NBA story, with Tony stepping in and expressing skepticism about the FBI’s motives, claiming,

  Tony (03:10): “Everything the FBI is doing is total bullshit. ...What the government wants more than anything is a cut of illegal gambling. That’s the only reason they’re in here doing anything at all — they want a cut.”

• [04:10-07:08]
  Dan and David Samson analyze how NBA commissioner Adam Silver is navigating the crisis. Samson describes the league’s likely steps: administrative leave for Rozier, union discussions, rapid press releases, and “talking points” for media scrutiny.

  David Samson (04:11): “Adam Silver is trying to get messaging to the teams… He’ll be on administrative leave. The way MLB puts its players away like Emmanuel Classe, the Heat will not be having [Rozier] on the roster, but he will still get paid.”

2. Failures of League Investigations vs. Federal Power

• [05:20-08:13]
  Le Batard hammers the NBA’s prior clearing of Rozier amid mounting evidence, questioning the league’s competence or potential cover-up. Samson highlights the difference between league investigations (no subpoena power, voluntary cooperation) and federal probes.

  Samson (07:08): “The NBA has no subpoena powers… when the federal government asks you a question, you have to answer. ...It’s a totally different level of scrutiny.”

3. Chauncey Billups Arrest: Degrees of Trouble

• [08:34-09:08]
  Distinction between Rozier’s alleged betting on basketball and Billups’ involvement in a mafia-connected poker game. Samson emphasizes the NBA’s relative relief that Billups is only implicated in poker, not game-fixing.

  Samson (09:08): “It’s a big break for the NBA that it’s poker, that is for sure. ...With what it could have been, Adam Silver is whistling Dixie out of his tuchus right now that his coach was only involved in poker.”

4. Potential Beyond Poker: Fear of “Inside Info”

• [11:31-12:04]
  Mike Ryan raises the crucial point: What if Billups shared inside NBA information during poker games? The real danger, they argue, is the leveraging of a coach’s access to sensitive league knowledge—a red line for sports integrity.

  Mike Ryan (11:31): “We have no idea what kind of inside information... was shared. And I imagine a head coach in the NBA is privy to all sorts of inside information.”

5. Dog and Pony Show: A Spiraling Side Quest

• [13:59-17:08]
  In classic Big Suey fashion, the conversation slides into etymology and personal anecdotes:
  • The gang unpacks the literal origins of "dog and pony show"—vaudeville’s traveling variety acts ([15:59-16:19]).
  • Dan relays a wild Amsterdam “pony show” story, leading to provocative (and hilarious) asides:

    Dan (16:18): “I’m ashamed to say in Amsterdam one time I walked into a pony show... it was not a dog and pony show. And I regretted it as soon as I got there.”
    David Samson (16:44): “Those are good shows.”

6. Adam Silver’s Crisis and the Owners’ Perspective

• [17:37-19:45]
  Mike Ryan and Samson debate how this scandal will reflect on Silver. Samson defends Silver’s anti-gambling advocacy, stating he had always warned against entanglement and prop betting.

  Samson (17:56): “Don’t forget Adam Silver was really at the forefront of not wanting gambling to be legalized. ...He’s really put himself in a position to not look very good here.”

7. Press Conference Speculation & Stakes

• [20:23-24:17]
  The cast predicts the FBI press conference content (run by Cash Patel), speculating whether further, bigger names will be revealed and discussing law enforcement motives—publicity and targeting "big fish" for maximum splash.

  David Samson (20:41): “You have sports shows talking about it. ...This is crossing all aisles because it is sports. But ...is he going to announce Terry Rozier bet on Miami Heat?... Did Chauncey Billups give information?”

8. Chauncey Billups’ Reputation Debated

• [22:51-23:25]
  As Dan refers to Billups’ “impeccable reputation,” David Samson and Jeremy Tache correct the record by referencing past sexual assault allegations that resurfaced during his hiring by Portland.

9. Financial/Team Implications for Miami Heat

• [24:26-25:33]
  Samson answers whether Miami could seek salary cap relief after Rozier’s administrative leave and argues the league is unlikely to grant it. He shifts to broader union negotiations about how to handle such absences.

10. Basketball Talk Interlude

• [25:33-26:10]
  The crew pivots to basketball, marveling at Victor Wembanyama’s stat line (“40 points, 15 rebounds, 0 turnovers”) and poking fun at Joel Embiid’s apparent decline.

11. Adding Names: Damon Jones, Level of Leaks, and Name Guessing

• [31:05-34:51]
  The hosts ponder if more, higher-profile names are involved, referencing ABC News's report of up to six implicated. There’s playful betting among the cast (for $1) on whether someone bigger than Billups will be named.

  Dan (33:58): “You’re betting, David, that there’s a name, there’s something more seismic than Chauncey Billups coming up.”

12. Rozier’s Attorney Statement

• [34:51-35:38]
  Jeremy reads a statement from Rozier’s lawyer Jim Trustee:

  Trustee (34:51): “They wanted the misplaced glory of embarrassing a professional athlete with a perp walk. That tells you a lot about the motivations in this case ...Terry is not a gambler but he is not afraid of a fight and he looks forward to winning this fight.”

13. Skepticism About Political Motives

• [35:38-36:30]
  Mike Ryan and the crew discuss whether the DOJ/FBI timing might be politically motivated, echoing broader American skepticism.

  Mike Ryan (36:06): “Everything that has been trotted out by the DOJ or the FBI ...has all been either a diversionary tactic or something that has been politically motivated.”

14. Comic Relief: Terry Rozier’s Field Goal Percentage

• [36:45-37:00]
  Brief riff on whether Rozier should face “due process for his field goal percentage,” merging legal talk with stat-based fandom.

  Dan (36:45): “Does Terry Rozier deserve due process for his field goal percentage?”

15. Damon Jones, Shaq’s Impact, and Stats Dive

• [37:30-40:07]
  Dan gets fixated on Damon Jones’ three-point shooting improvement when playing alongside Shaquille O’Neal, using it to illustrate game dynamics and the perks of star teammates.

16. Caution on Conclusions

• [39:15-40:07]
  Samson urges patience—wait for concrete evidence before jumping to political or moral conclusions about the scandal, the league, or gambling’s wider influence.

  Samson (39:15): “It’s important for everybody to take a beat... Don’t go right to: ‘This is politics.’ Don’t go right to: ‘These guys are guilty.’ ...Let’s hear what the evidence is.”

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• David Samson (09:08): “With what it could have been, Adam Silver is whistling Dixie out of his tuchus right now that his coach was only involved in poker.”
• Dan Le Batard (16:18): “[In Amsterdam] I walked into a pony show without knowing it was a pony show... And I regretted it as soon as I got there.”
• Mike Ryan (36:06): “Everything that has been trotted out by the DOJ or the FBI...has all been...politically motivated.”
• Rozier’s Attorney (34:51): “They wanted the misplaced glory of embarrassing a professional athlete with a perp walk.”
• Dan Le Batard (36:45): “Does Terry Rozier deserve due process for his field goal percentage?”
• David Samson (17:56): “Don’t forget Adam Silver was really at the forefront of not wanting gambling to be legalized.”

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Important Timestamps

• [02:54] — Breaking story: Amin leaves, Tony enters, FBI/gambling scandal.
• [04:10] — Samson outlines Adam Silver’s crisis response.
• [05:20] — Le Batard challenges NBA investigation’s competence.
• [08:34] — Differentiation between Rozier (game gambling) and Billups (poker/mafia).
• [11:31] — Mike Ryan on the threat of insider info from coaches.
• [15:59-16:19] — Origins of "dog and pony show."
• [16:18-17:08] — Dan’s infamous Amsterdam pony show anecdote.
• [24:26] — Miami Heat salary cap implications discussed.
• [31:05-34:51] — Speculation about the release of more names.
• [34:51] — Rozier’s attorney’s statement.
• [39:15] — Samson’s call for restraint and patience on the scandal’s fallout.

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Conclusion

In a classic blend of irreverence and acute media savvy, the Big Suey crew tracks a major developing sports scandal, dissecting the difference between league and federal processes, possible future fallout, media incentives, and the complexity of due process in the high-stakes world of 21st-century American sports. They balance insider analysis, live speculation, and their trademark self-aware wit—never shying from a tangent when the mood strikes.

For listeners wanting the heart of the episode: Focus on the implications of federal authority versus league policing, the real dangers of insider information in sports gambling, and questions about the motives—political and otherwise—behind DOJ press conferences. And, as always with Big Suey, expect the unexpected.

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Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Sampson]

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[Chris Cody]

I'm not going to apologize for that.

[David Sampson]

In fact, the.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

And now here's the marching man to.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

We have a lot going on here today. Amin has been pulled out because he's got to get to New York to help Pablo. Because we've got a breaking story in the NBA that has echoing ramifications because Amin has left. Tony has sped in and he has rushed in to tell us that everything the FBI is doing is total bullshit.

[Tony]

It's absolute bullshit. And the guy behind me and instead of doing the most important things and figuring out the things we actually want is going after. What the government wants more than anything is a cut of illegal gambling. Okay? That's the only reason they're in here doing anything at all is because they want to cut. If they were in Vegas and everything was okay or New Jersey or whatever wouldn't be an issue. But now, since it's happening all across the places that they can't get their paws on, now they want a piece of it.

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[Mike Ryan]

It's the players and the coaches being involved.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's 102. He comes, but also he's got some breakfast in his mouth. Yeah, he's late. He's making reckless accusations.

[David Sampson]

I mean, late late.

[Tony]

I mean, late is objective.

[Dan Le Batard]

That don't have information in them, just a whole lot.

[Mike Ryan]

Late is objective.

[Dan Le Batard]

Subjective, subjective. Late is objective. It's empirical. You're late. You're an hour late. It's not subjective. David Sampson's always on time. Nothing personal is the name of his podcast. Can you give me some informed information as opposed to Tony just coming in and saying the government wants a cut of Rosier's salary?

[David Sampson]

I can tell you right now that what Adam Silver is doing is he is trying to figure out how to get messaging to the teams about what they need to be sane. Because the Heat, the Trailblazers and other teams are going to have to have a reaction. He's speaking to the union right now because he needs to put Terry Rozier out. He'll be on administrative leave. The way MLB puts its players away like Emmanuel Classe, the Heat will not be having him on the roster, but he will still get paid. The Trailblazers have to announce that they have a new coach ready to go tomorrow for their game against the Warriors. Then all of this has to be they're watching the 10am live like we are, but they're working on releases that will be ready certainly by early afternoon because action will have to be taken today. It's a bad day for Adam Silver, but that's what he's doing right now. He's not focused on investigating Rozier. He's coming up with talking points to address what what to do currently and then how to answer the question of hey, your investigators found nothing. What did you miss? What process did you do that you look back on as being wrong but that he will not answer.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what what's your best theory there on what happened? How does the NBA clear Terry Rozier when among other details, there was a gambler who played, you know, placed 30 wagers in 46 minutes on on exclusively Terry Ro. What can Adam Silver say that isn't just total incompetence or cover up as it regards them? Just clearing Terry. Rosie?

[David Sampson]

Yeah. What you say is that given the information we had at the time, we always tell you that things can change. Like the way he's talked about the Clippers and aspiration. He'll give you a thought with today, but with Pablo dripping and drabbing out more information, he has the right to change his mind. And that's what he's going to say about Rosier. Hey, given where we were then, this is what our decision was and we were right. Since then, it's come to our attention that the following happened. Had we known then what we know now, clearly he would not have David.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't go from clearing somebody to he's arrested in Orlando while he's on.

[Chris Cody]

You know, by the FBI.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, you can't go he's cleared to the first game of the season. Somewhere near the bench, he's being let off in handcuffs.

[David Sampson]

First of all, he has a hamstring injury. He was not let off the bench in handcuffs. I assume they went to the team hotel. Two, you can absolutely have new facts that come up when you're making decisions running your company, which you're not doing anymore. But if you were, do you not agree that certain things change that lead you to make different decisions today that you would have made yesterday? That is very normal in the business.

[Dan Le Batard]

World, but not it just doesn't generally rise to the level of federal arrests.

[David Sampson]

Oh, I think that's exactly the level that it always rises to because the federal ability to investigate. Remember the NBA no subpoena powers. You don't have to talk to the NBA investigators or MLB department investigations. When the federal government asks you a question, you have to answer. Now, you can invoke the Fifth Amendment. Be my guest. Enjoy. But they have the right to compel you to testify. There are grand juries who, who are seated to look at evidence in a way that the leagues don't do with their department of investigations. It's a totally different level of scrutiny. So Adam Silver, that's the least of his issues to be asked by people like you. Hey, how stupid were you that you cleared Terry Rozier? That is not the question. The question is going forward, he'll answer it. But the question going forward is what do we do to work better with the FBI, better with the gambling companies who are our partners to give comfort to our customers. Like you said in the first hour, comfort that the integrity has not dropped even in iota.

[Dan Le Batard]

Before we go to the press conference that is scheduled for 10:00am Eastern with the head of the FBI, Cash Patel, and they're going to make a dog and pony show out of this. Can you give me the history of dog and pony show, please? I'd like to know when those were popular in America and if they did indeed include dogs and ponies and if the ponies had tricks. I want to know a little more about dog and pony.

[Chris Cody]

Westminster Dog show is still pretty popular.

[Dan Le Batard]

The dog, the, the origins of dog and pony, I want to know, but I want to know from expert David Sampson. These are two different. If you're just joining us, two different arrests, two different investigations, one on Terry Rozier, has to do with the games themselves. The one with head coach Portland head coach Chauncey Billups has to do reportedly with a poker game that reportedly involved the mafia, given the information we presently have. David, explain to me how problematic the Chauncey Billups story is.

[David Sampson]

It's a big break for the NBA that it's poker, that is for sure. When you see Chauncey Billups arrested, the first thing you're thinking of Pete Rose. Did he bet on games that he coached? So immediately you got word? No. No. This was not him betting on games that his team was involved in.

[Tony]

Few.

[David Sampson]

Next. Did he bet on other games? NBA games? Okay. No. Did he bet on other sports? No. It turns out he was playing poker. Yeah, he was playing with Tony Montana. And yes, it's possible he was playing at numbers that would make, you know, you. You sweat. But the reality is Adam Silver is super psyched. He's still Chauncey Billups is done. He's not going to coach again. Finished. However, with what it could have been, Adam Silver is whistling Dixie out of his tuchus right now that his coach was only involved in poker.

[Tony]

And why is the FBI there, David? Because they wanted a cut of the action. That's the only reason.

[David Sampson]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

Just to be clear, while you're saying illegal.

[Tony]

Illegal poker games, why does. We've got bigger fish to fry Cash Patel than illegal poker games happening in Portland?

[David Sampson]

Okay, The FBI can do more than one thing at once, Tony.

[Tony]

That doesn't seem like it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, you're saying that what he's saying is ridiculous, but I want you to just examine what it is. Well, that's what he's saying. He's saying that what you're saying is ridiculous.

[Tony]

I would say that's ridiculous.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, what he said that was ridiculous is that Adam Silver got information and he got information on Chauncey Billups. And initially he thought, oh, I hope this isn't games. And then when he found out it was merely a poker game with the mafia, he bent over and out his ass came a song that was whistling Dixie. Far more ridiculous than what it is that you allege, which is a happiness so great. That song came from his rectum.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean.

[David Sampson]

So I spoke to NBA sources this morning already and before we knew what Chauncey Billups was, we went through the level of the issue that could be in front of us. The top level is betting against your team while you're coaching, betting for your team while your coaching's right below it, betting against or for other teams that games you're not involved in. Below that, betting illegally on sports. That's not basketball. Below that. We didn't even put poker on the list, guys.

[Mike Ryan]

Again, we don't know the information shared at this poker games, which according to the reporting, and I assume. I can only assume that part will be covered in today's press conference. I don't think it's a poker game. We have no idea what kind of inside information that's a direct quote from these articles was shared. And I imagine a head coach in the NBA is privy to all sorts of inside information that gamblers would love about the state of the entire league, not just their team. They play in divisions. They know all these teams like the back of their hand. They do scouting. There is a lot of inside information and insight that you can get.

[Tony]

Also, betting on your team to win should be legal, by the way. Just put that out there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Put it on the poll at Lebatard show Should betting on your team to.

[Tony]

I want to win.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to be legal. Could you get me some information on dog and pony show, please?

[Chris Cody]

Skin in the game.

[Tony]

I do exactly right. Like we're all in this together, folks.

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

What?

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[David Sampson]

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[David Sampson]

I see coldness.

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[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wow. It's in there.

[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

This is the D Levitar show with the stugats.

[Tony]

All right, Dan. Dog and pony shows come from small traveling circuses in the 1800s. And vaudeville acts where dog and ponies would literally do tricks, jump through hoops, pull little things, dance, do certain things like that. Basically, a smaller traveling circus for people that were out in the country that couldn't get to big cities to see circus.

[Chris Cody]

You know about those Volville acts?

[Tony]

Had one yesterday here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Babe Ruth.

I do know something about vaudeville acts. Greg Cody knows a great deal more. I also am ashamed to say that in Amsterdam one time I walked into a pony show without knowing it was a pony show. And it was not a dog and pony show. And I regretted it as soon as I got there.

[Chris Cody]

I've been to some good shows in Amsterdam.

[David Sampson]

Were there ping pong balls involved?

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, there were, actually. There were. There were. Hell, yeah. Really? Really. Look at him. Look at the. Look at the song.

[David Sampson]

Those are good shows.

[Mike Ryan]

Add it to the cash list.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look at him. Look at this degenerate. Look at this deviant, look at how radiant he is thinking about ping pong balls flying across the room on some sort of sex show in Amsterdam. Amsterdam. Go ahead and focus. Get closer and closer on his face so you guys can see how, how deviant and disgusting David Sampson really is when he thinks about ping pong. Floating ping pong balls at a pony show.

[David Sampson]

Let me go one better. Let me go better. When you're at a show with a guy with Parkinson's and they choose that guy to be the one to try to shoot a dart at and you're thinking to yourself, well, wait a minute, do they give goggles? Is it possible that my main man is going to lose an eye? That's when you know you're living.

[Chris Cody]

So Michael J.

[Dan Le Batard]

Fox, his best friend, he raises a lot of money for Parkinson's. It does not mean he's appropriate. He greets that best friend all the time with what's shaking? And it's not appropriate.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, no.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, David, you mentioned that Adam Silver's butthole was whistling Dixie. I don't. I'm not so sure. What is he hearing from his bosses, the other owners in the league, they cleared Terry Rose here in their investigation.

[David Sampson]

Let me point out two things.

[Mike Ryan]

This is really, really bad for Adam Silver.

[David Sampson]

So I would point out that, yes, clearing Terry Rozier, it's not perfect. Having the Steve Ballmer investigation going on, it's not perfect. Don't forget Adam Silver was really at the forefront of not wanting gambling to be legalized. Adam Silver did, did op ed pieces trying to stop it. As. As recently as a few days ago, Adam Silver was on the air talking about, hey, can we ease up on the prop bet thing? So Adam Silver has really put himself in a position to not look very good here. But you brought up a point that is true, which is if we hear at 10 o' clock that Chauncey Billups was in debt at a poker game, Mafia related. And instead of giving up his Rolex, he instead gave up the fact that he will make sure that Greg Odin doesn't get five rebounds. Then that Greg Odin.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg Odin, he's just.

[Tony]

Last time he paid attention to the trailblazers.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jesus.

[David Sampson]

Greg Odin Wells.

[Mike Ryan]

He meant our vitus. A bonus. Keep it moving.

[David Sampson]

You just keep it moving.

[Dan Le Batard]

Greg Odin. I'm pretty sure his career ended before Chauncey Billups started.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Continue.

[David Sampson]

I couldn't think of a trailblazer immediately. This is not scripted. We're all getting the news quickly. If Chauncey Billups, Mike, is giving up that information, that is a whole different story. That rises above the level of actually betting against your own team that you're coaching. That, that is the, that is the fifth rail of the third rails. But I will see what the FBI says. But to me, if that's why Chauncey Billups was arrested, that is, that's very different, Mike. And then Adam Silver will not be whistling Dixie. He will be shooting darts.

[Mike Ryan]

I know especially recently, which seems like there's a Department of justice or FBI press conference for the sake of having them for catching attention. And some of these times people are left saying, that's pretty flimsy. What's the intention here? There are a lot of illegal poker games that go on throughout the nation that people are aware of. Just like there was all sorts of illegal gambling on sportsbooks that, you know, technically were illegal. Not even technically, but you're not gonna get pinched for sending, you know, $500 to five dimes, you know. But I would imagine for him to be arrested, to be trotted out, even admitting that these things have been flimsy lately, there's gotta be something pretty substantial.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you expecting here, David? What are the best case and worst case scenario? What is the lowest thing that's gonna happen? What's the highest thing that's going to happen? And what is earned skepticism that Cash Patel deserves today because he's going to try to put on a show and politicize everything.

[David Sampson]

Well, I hear you, but this is not really about politics to me because you go back in the celebrity poker games and they try to bust them. They try to bust the celebrity prostitution rings. You try to do anything where you can have a name high, name recognition, because it's really good for business if you're the FBI and it's not really a Trump issue or an Obama issue. It's always been that with law enforcement, you're always looking to take down. It's what immunity is granted for. So little guys can sing to big guys because that is how it works institutionally. So what would be the biggest thing? Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups. It's, it's good. I mean, it's fine, but it's not like, hey, Victor Wembanyama, and I'm not throwing his name because he's so good. And God knows. But there are different levels. And above that, the celebrities with poker, Tobey Maguire, Ben Affleck, all of those guys, it just attracts attention. So what would be the number one thing. It's happening now. You have sports shows talking about it. You've got Fox and CNN reaching out because they want to talk about it. This is crossing all aisles because it is sports. But for me, what he announces in four minutes live at 10am depending on when you're listening to this or watching on the DraftKings Network. Is he going to say that Terry Rosier bet on Miami Heat? Is he going to say that he knew about the prop bets on himself and then his performance reflected that? Is he going to say Chauncey Billups played cards with bad guys or that he actually gave information?

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, I don't think David, I don't think it's possible. Again, I'm speculating because it's three minutes from from now. I don't believe that you throw Chauncey Billups into this particular cesspool where you cost him his job and his name on the same day. Unless there's something here beyond he was playing in poker games. Like even playing in poker games with shady characters. My guess is there has to be something here if you're going to smear this man who's got to to date, he's got an impeccable reputation.

[David Sampson]

Chauncey does not. That's not accurate actually. If you look, there was an opportunity I had to wait to see that he would actually not end up coaching one game with the Trailblazers. He does not have an impeccable reputation. But anyway, I don't want to bother you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go ahead, Jeremy, give me the sexual assault.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, the stuff that was paid off, Jeremy.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's all right there. I can give you updates on the details in just a moment. There was an allegation against him from a night in 1997. There was evidence that matched up with what that allegation was. There were no charges. I will go from there.

Okay. Forgive me. It's not an impeccable reputation because Chauncey Billups, before he was hired as Portland coach, it did come up that he had a case and I believe in 1997. But if you're going to get to the point where this is something that you're doing to Chauncey Billups or anyone like him with similar name, it's not going to just be poker game with mafia members. There's got to be something else here.

[David Sampson]

I'm happy to get into the conversation, but why would we? Because we're going to find out like there's no reason to speculate. What we can talk about is what will happen once Patel is done with this. And that is what the NBA has to do by this afternoon, no later than the end of the day today, because the Trailblazers need a coach for tomorrow against the warriors and it's not going to be Billups. That is a real.

[Dan Le Batard]

You say his job is done right now, right? You say he. His job is over today.

[David Sampson]

The moment the arrest happens today, it is absolutely done. He will never coach another game in the NBA.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, just imagine.

[David Sampson]

Stop.

[Chris Cody]

NBA coaches are required to talk to the media every day, several times a day. You have blazes. You can't put them in other media every day. But let's get to the real issue at hand here, David. Are the Miami Heat going to ask the league for salary cap relief?

[Dan Le Batard]

Go ahead.

[David Sampson]

The answer is that this has happened before. When you have a player who is going to be suspended, they're not going to get that relief right now because they're going to keep Payne Rosier, but they're going to appeal for it. And if you're the NBA, I would not grant the relief to the Miami Heat. There is no reason to grant it. And it is something that in a collective bargain agreement needs to be dealt with. Baseball. It's happening right now in the new CBA negotiations. What do you do with players who are on administrative leave? They're not helping your team. You're still paying them. Investigations can take a year and it counts towards your luxury tax. And they're not even helping your team. So that has to be dealt with. And it's an issue that should be. Listen, these arrests keep happening, these suspensions keep happening. It's no longer something that we think about could happen. This is real, real right now. And it will be negotiated with the union.

[Dan Le Batard]

A couple of things from last night's action on the court. Wemby, 40 points, 15 rebounds, zero turnovers. That's. That's a tough line. That's a. That's a tough line. 40 points, 15 rebounds, 0 turnovers. He has announced that the league is his for the taking. I think we may have seen the end of Joel Embiid.

[Chris Cody]

Like he, oh, he's the worst player in the league, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

He looks, he looks pretty cooked. And Vijay Edgecombe looks kind of, really, really kind of.

[Chris Cody]

Bimini, stand up.

[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

I want to go to Bimini again.

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[Chris Cody]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

It's a good algorithm.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats and the most important new of any kind basketball related beyond the Pablo Torre finds out division. The video has surfaced of Michael Jordan hitting the free throw. He gave a one hour interviewer to Mike Tirico that I'm assuming Peacock will use for the next 10 years to give us insights into excellence with the one hour they got with Michael Jordan. And the video has surfaced of him doing a dog and pony show for the owner of the Ryder Cup's kid.

[Tony]

You can't break this line until he hits the rim.

[David Sampson]

That's a real chamber.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah.

[Commercial Announcer]

I was so skeptical of that story and everything he said was right. He seemed nervous.

[David Sampson]

He swished it.

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I was wrong. I'm sorry for doubting you.

[Dan Le Batard]

You wanted to puncture the myth of Michael Jordan. He stepped right up there. He limped away like a 16 year old old man. But he nailed that free.

[David Sampson]

He did say.

[Chris Cody]

Lord have mercy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Didn't even need the rim. Didn't need anything but net your thoughts there, David. As the video has now surfaced, the truth is that the myth is real. He is a legend forevermore. The owner of the Ryder cup made him.

[David Sampson]

It's not the owner of the Ryder Cup. What do you mean? Who owns the Ryder Cup?

[Chris Cody]

Michael Jordan owns it now.

[Mike Ryan]

It's a Jeff Ryder, Ryder Cup Esquire.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a joke. Well, it's a thing I got wrong yesterday that has become a joke today. But a rich person asked Michael Jordan to take free throws. He did. Chris, are you ready? Cash Patel is going to be in front of microphones in a second. Are we expecting any more news like this has got? It's only going to be Terry Rozier and Chauncey Billups. There aren't going to be more names. Let's guess who else.

[Chris Cody]

Let's get.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, tell me Chris, when we're ready to go to this press conference because he's going to shuffle in front of microphones here and this story is going to be developing. I'm sure David Sampson covered it well on nothing personal. What can you tell me, David, else that you find interesting here? Because the. The billup story is larger than the rosier story. Correct. Even though the billup story is not game integrity. The billup story is not about the product on the court necessarily with a player with a basketball in his hands.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, we don't know. If it's just plain poker, then I don't view it that way. If it is giving information to people at a poker game, then of course it's bigger because it's a coach. It's one of 30 coaches. So that, that is why this press conference is so important that we're trying to maybe look at and get live. But what does he lead with? That is the interesting way. If he's got six names to release, it's sort of like releasing the nominees for Oscar. They wait. Best picture for last. Do you lead with your best or do you go with the dreck first?

[Dan Le Batard]

You think there's going to be more names? You think that only Rosier and Billups have leaked out and they're going to be more names in a few minutes?

[David Sampson]

I believe that is what we just heard live on the air from you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I thought it was reported six names. Yes, by ABC News. They said that those were two of six names that were going to be bigger.

I'm assuming, I'm assuming that if two have leaked out, maybe I've got this wrong in the way I'm doing the assumptions. If to have leaked out, if there were bigger names, those are the ones that would have leaked out.

Well, in the first two names, by the way, of the six that it mentioned in the specific paragraph that was Damon Jones and Terry Rozier, Billups was not technically a part of the paragraph that said there are six names. So we'll find out in moments. But that's where this all at least begins.

[David Sampson]

I think you got to hold on to the big one. I think you don't leak. The leak comes from the DOJ. It gets attention to 10am it gets people talking about it before, pregame, during game after game. But I think that my view if, and this is sort of what I learned from Pablo, if you've got something big, like really big, hold it, hold it maximum leverage, hold it and then drop it like it's hot. And I assume that's what Cash is going to do.

[Dan Le Batard]

I, I do not assume that. I do not assume that we would get partial information to just tease us and then they're going to hit us with some sort of bombshell. You think there's something bigger than coach Chauncey Billups? Because I don't.

[David Sampson]

We're going to. Well, this is great. This is a binary thing. Although we could argue is Damon Jones bigger than Chauncey Billups? And the answer will be no to that.

[Chris Cody]

No one's arguing that.

[Mike Ryan]

Give you plus 200 you think let's.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let'S go around the room here. Let's bet here. Let's have a high stakes game here that the federal government.

[Mike Ryan]

Careful.

[David Sampson]

No more than dollar Billups.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're betting David, that there's a name, there's something more seismic than Chauncey Billups coming up in a few minutes. You're betting more seismic than Billups.

[David Sampson]

I'll take, I'll take the more seismic side of that for a dollar Alex.

[Dan Le Batard]

The rest of you, what are my.

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[David Sampson]

We agree this is no someone we.

[Commercial Announcer]

Just agree that's the same as Chauncey.

[Tony]

Billups just in terms of I can't get odds on that kind of thing.

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[Tony]

Got to be one of the other.

[Dan Le Batard]

Give me those odds. So you think something that's going to rise to former hall of famer and.

[Chris Cody]

Current shouldn't even be in the hall of fame.

[Mike Ryan]

I'll take a little plus 700 flyer on that. Little action junkie on that. Pablo is still doing reporting on this as we told you. Amin was supposed to be on our on our show. He's mobilized on his way to New York to do an episode on this. Terry Rozier's attorney has spoken and given a statement to Pablo Torre. Jeremy has it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jim Trustee says we have represented Terry Rozier for over a year. A long time ago we reached out to these prosecutors to tell them we should have an open line of communication. They characterized Terry as a subject, not a target. But at 6am this morning they called to tell me FBI agents were trying to arrest him in a hotel. It is unfortunate that instead of allowing him to self surrender they opted for a photo op. They wanted the misplaced glory of embarrassing a professional athlete with a perp walk. That tells you a lot about the motivations in this case. They appear to be taking the word of spectacularly incredible. Not incredible, but in hyphen credible sources rather than relying on actual evidence of wrongdoing. Terry was cleared by the NBA and these prosecutors revived that non case. Terry is not a gambler but he is not afraid of a fight and he looks forward to winning this fight.

[Mike Ryan]

This is important to note. I mean we got eyes, we got ears. Applying scrutiny to investigations at this specific moment in time from this administration. I think that's the right thing to apply scrutiny and allow somebody to be innocent until proven.

[Dan Le Batard]

We haven't been.

[Mike Ryan]

Unless that person is Terry Rozier.

[Dan Le Batard]

We have not been doing that. And I will say that David just got done saying in A fairly absolute form. Politics isn't here. And I'm like, it's everywhere now.

[Mike Ryan]

Everything, every single thing, everything that has been trotted out by the DOJ or the FBI or the speaker. It has all been either a diversionary tactic or something that has been politically motivated. Now, on the surface, this may not seem like it's that, but it gets people talking about something else. And that's why I'm saying applying scrutiny here, that might be a safe play here.

[David Sampson]

So are you saying. Are you saying that there's going to be someone more bigger than Chauncey or not? That was the original question.

[Mike Ryan]

What I'm saying is under the jail for Terry Rozier. Under the jail, no process, but no trial. We all know he's guilty. We have eyes.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what? Put it on the poll. Does Terry Rozier deserve due process for his field goal percentage?

[Tony]

You're going to point at it? No. Exhibit a, your honor. 26.7% from three.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every jury in the land would convict him.

[Chris Cody]

I already told you, he didn't even try to hide it. Too many airballs, but airballs.

[David Sampson]

You know how easily you'd find a jury that has no idea what his field goal percentage is or that he doesn't shoot threes. Well, they go learn, it won't even be part of the case. Won't even be mentioned. Mike Ryan will not be mentioned in Terry Rozier's case. She's not going to come up.

[Dan Le Batard]

I hope so. Okay, I want you guys to look up for me, please, because I see Damon Jones on all the televisions here, and it makes me laugh. It really makes me laugh.

[Mike Ryan]

Character witness for the prosecution. That guy's a bad guy. He sucks.

[Dan Le Batard]

Every time I see Damon Jones end up on my televisions here.

[Chris Cody]

You think that turnover too, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I don't think of the turnover, but I'd like for you guys to look up for me. Tony, look this up for me so that you can be truly shocked, okay, about sort of the benefits of playing with Shaq and why it is that I thought that Shaq underachieved, even winning as many titles as he did. Go look at what happened to Damon Jones. Numbers from 3. The moment he joined Shaq's side and Shaq got all the double teams. All of a sudden, a guy who had never done anything.

[Chris Cody]

He set the Heat record that year.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, he was the best three point shooter any of us have ever seen that year simply because he played with Shaq.

[Tony]

So the couple ga. The couple seasons before. So we're going to do four seasons before the season with Shaq. He shot 37%, 36%, 35%.

[Chris Cody]

He was definitely 40% with the season with Shaq, 43%.

[Tony]

Then season without Shaq, 32, 38, 41 rounds again out with Cleveland.

[Dan Le Batard]

But how about the number of threes that he got that season?

[Chris Cody]

He had over 200 that year.

[Dan Le Batard]

He went from averaging about three per game to over six per game. So he literally doubled it and the percentage went up by 8 percentage points.

[Chris Cody]

And he decided to not, not give.

[Dan Le Batard]

The ball to Shaq with a chance.

[Chris Cody]

To go to the finals. I'm telling you, I knew something was fishy. Turns the ball over. We're about to go to our first ever finals.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, anything else from this story we're going to break down here in a second and then come back live to this press conference as it opens. But is there anything else from this story, David, that you think has not been covered in the early portions of the information we have?

[David Sampson]

I just think it's important for everybody to take a beat and don't go right to. This is politics. Don't go right to these guys are guilty. Don't go right to. The gambling companies have a problem. The relationships with the gambling companies are a problem. Just try to take a beat and let's hear what the evidence is. Let's hear exactly what the charges are, let's hear what next steps are and let's be on the lookout for what Adam Silver does as it relates to Portland and Miami. And the two players we know of.

[Tony]

Already found the three point attempts for Damon Jones in those couple of years with the here with the heaty at 521. Three point attempts the year prior. 273 the year after. 371.

[Dan Le Batard]

How about the years before that? Like what were the numbers?

[Tony]

121, 186.

[Dan Le Batard]

231.

[Tony]

91, 23, 114.

[Chris Cody]

The game did change.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, it was not yet changing. It was not changing. Then it was just after 231. Hole in the middle.

[Tony]

76, 28.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, it was funny. It was funny to watch Damon Jones. Damon Jones. It was like watching Donkey with Shrek. Got Shaq, he had Shaq and he took five hundred and threes and now he is in engulfed in this gambling probe. You think we have three of the six names so far and one of them is Damon Jones and you guys are betting that we're going to do better than Chauncey Billups? I'm betting level I do believe that the caution you guys espouse is important because I do remind you we went crazy for about, I'm going to say, 2 hours and 30 minutes on that Shohei Ohtani story. And then it just fell and then it just sort of disappeared.

[Tony]

We had for a moment that one Go away.

[Mike Ryan]

That a convenient time for an administration under scrutiny. I mean, you should, you should wait and see on this one.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's no fun. I know.

[Mike Ryan]

You don't have to wait much longer.

[Dan Le Batard]

We're already 12 minutes past where I thought we were going to be waiting when they said that Cash Patel going.

[Tony]

To come to mobilize there. Daniel.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, let's. Let's break down here for a second and then come back. David, thank you for being on with us. Do you want to give us a movie review on your way?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think we have time. We don't break down right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, wow. They're going.

[Mike Ryan]

They're speaking, right?

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, they're so many people walking up there.

[Mike Ryan]

Out of your mouth.

[Dan Le Batard]

We'll talk to you next time.

[Tony]

No, don't even say goodbye to it.

[Mike Ryan]

Shut up. Howdy, listeners. It's Mike Ryan and Chris Cody. Hey, everyone. Hey, Chris. We love hanging out so much. You were at my birthday the other day.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're old.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan Le Batard]

What?

[Mike Ryan]

A can of Miller Light. Whether it's a can, whether it's a bottle, a draft pour of Miller Light. The draft pour. You see that beautiful iconic color. Ah, the coals right away.

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[David Sampson]

Oh, so good.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, Chris. The ice coldness to it.

[David Sampson]

Oh.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[David Sampson]

I see coldness.