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Dan Le Batard
Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings.
Greg Cody
Why are you listening to this show,
Dan Le Batard
the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?
Amin Elhassan
I'm sorry.
Zaslow
I'm not gonna apologize for that.
Dan Le Batard
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Amin Elhassan
I've done it.
Dan Le Batard
And now here's the marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.
Producer or Side Commentator
This episode of the Dan Levatard show is Presented by by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours, Greg.
Dan Le Batard
You're gonna need your headsets in order to hear Dusty May and everything he has to say. He's gonna join us here in a minute, but there's not been enough room in the first hour for Greg, who had an all Star hall of Fame performance last week and got sick and now has returned. And the reason primarily is ZSAs and the way that he fills up a room with a personality that ESPN Radio is now using all times, day and nights because they love Zaslow, but it's going to his head in ways that uncomfortable. And I've also heard the audience on using the hockey penalties too much. So I'm going to Start distributing other kinds of penalties. Different ones. And because Zaz hasn't paid the fine bucket in several times now, even though he finally paid something last night, the fine bucket is something. I'm going to penalize him for not paying enough fines recently with something that scares him. And we'll get to Dusty May in a second.
Producer or Side Commentator
Does you know about paying that debt?
Zaslow
It says, Zaslow, $200 on the board there. You're out to lunch if you think I'm paying $200.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, well, you're going to penalize. We're going to penalize you now in another way.
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Dan Le Batard
Well, see, Dusty May is there. He's waiting for us.
Greg Cody
He heard.
Dan Le Batard
And Chris got scared because we got a potential champion on our hands here. College basketball has been mad poor Al locally, and it's at least in part because of the way this guy helped build it locally over the last three years. But, Zaslow, before we go, I don't know how Dusty May distributes discipline. This is the way that I'm gonna do it. He's got a great fear here of these driverless cars. You've gotta pay $5 fine, and you gotta go outside and take the driverless car somewhere.
Producer or Side Commentator
Oh, we're doing the Waymo like now.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, right now. Go now. Go get a Waymo. They're all over the place in Miami.
Zaslow
There's no human driver.
Dan Le Batard
Zaslow doesn't trust him. Put it on the poll at Le Batad. Trust driverless cars. Yes. Yes or no.
Amin Elhassan
But way more time to speed up. Five, tell the driver to speed up when you get in there.
Dan Le Batard
We'll see how these cars work. Send a cameraman with him. Get out of here. Zaslo. Dusty, thank you for joining us. Sorry for wasting some of your precious time. It's a busy time, and we appreciate you rejoining us. How do you punish players, and what do you think of that as somebody who's not paying fines?
Dusty May
Well, we've. We've contemplated the fine system and decided to stay away from it before we ran guys. And then we got a memo from the Big Ten office because of some, I guess, football instances that we're not allowed to punish guys through running anymore. So we just basically asked them to follow an honor system and hold each other accountable with our old. With our old rule violation running amounts. So we have a Kid that's been pretty compliant, though.
Dan Le Batard
No, you didn't hear what he said. I mean, is shocked behind you. Chris is saying, ah, sprints. They've taken sprints from your coach.
Greg Cody
What? They've taken sprints from you. You can't run them extra sprints.
Dusty May
Correct. Not for punishment. We can run them for sprints if we think they need extra conditioning. So there have been times when you've heard coaches say, you know what, guys, I think we look like we're not quite in good enough shape. Or this player who happened to be late for a bus has to run to get in better shape, but not for punishment.
Dan Le Batard
Dusty, you've snuck a few punishments in there and not told anybody, right?
Greg Cody
You just. That was just a hard practice that day and everybody knew it's Bob's fault.
Dusty May
Well, if we could go back and talk about the driverless cars. I trust those cars much more than I trust the drivers back in Boca.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, yeah, good call.
Greg Cody
Put it on the poll at Lebiton show. What do you trust more, the driverless car or driver in Boca.
Dan Le Batard
What do you miss and what don't you miss about South Florida?
Dusty May
Well, I miss the sun and the blue skies the most. I don't miss the summer heat. I didn't realize how hot it was until I moved up here in the summers and how nice and mild it is.
Dan Le Batard
How did this go compared to how you thought it was going to go?
Dusty May
We didn't think it would happen this quickly. We thought it would be a little bit longer of a rebuild. But we hit the right guys in year one, which allowed us to, I guess, have an identity and have something to sell going forward. And now we have one of the most talented teams in the country.
Amin Elhassan
Dusty, I'm not sure how honest the coach is allowed to be, but when you're coaching FAU foul isle on the prowl back in 20, 23 to the final four.
Dan Le Batard
That's embarrassing what you just did there.
Amin Elhassan
No foul. Isl on the prowl is a compliment
Producer or Side Commentator
because I just wanted to say foul.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, but it's embarrassing.
Starbucks Announcer
And Dusty can back up. It's a known rallying crowd.
Greg Cody
You can get to the rest of
Dan Le Batard
your question, but it was embarrassing that you just sang the coach.
Amin Elhassan
Okay, Dusty, when you're in the final four and 23, you have to be thinking to yourself, okay, I'm not long for this job. I have earned a promotion. I'm going into a blue blood program right now. Is that correct? I mean, how honest can you be there?
Dusty May
No, actually, at that moment, when our guys all decided to stay between that and my oldest son was going into a senior year of high school, we decided that unless it was the Lakers, we weren't leaving FAU under any circumstances. And we also wanted to give it a year to see what we could kind of become. You know, you see some of these low mid major programs evolve quickly and become almost high major programs with resources and facilities. And so we wanted to see how quickly we could grow it. And we realized it was going to take a long time to get it to where it needs to be to sustain like high, high level success, top 20 type success. And then there were just a few jobs that came open the following year that we thought would be too, too tough to pass up. And Michigan was one of them.
Dan Le Batard
Greg, I'm sorry to do this to you, but your son just spit in my ear some producing criticism of that.
Producer or Side Commentator
I mean this guy's in the Sweet 16 with Michigan. We're asking him something about like three years he's got.
Greg Cody
He's the Big Ten coach of the
Dan Le Batard
year, he's the national coach of the year and you're asking him about both.
Producer or Side Commentator
Yeah, you left F.A. it's like yeah, two years ago.
Amin Elhassan
That's the foundation of Dusty Mansions.
Producer or Side Commentator
You just wanted to say foul on the prowl.
Greg Cody
Foul owl on the prowl unnecessarily like you just you.
Amin Elhassan
The echoes of Boca Raton shine in Michigan today.
Starbucks Announcer
He's right about.
Amin Elhassan
Dusty knows. Look at the smile on his face. He knows.
Greg Cody
Dusty
Dan Le Batard
is. Was this right before you lose in the conference tournament? At the end I was willing to make the argument that you just got done with the greatest regular season and tournament post season of Michigan's career. That in school history there had never been a run like this over the regular season. But you lost the last game. What happened?
Dusty May
Purdue played really, really well. The style of play, the type of game wasn't conducive for us and we were in foul trouble and they just dominate us in the paint. And that's something that hasn't happened this year. But Purdue's playing at a different level now. You know, they were the preseason number one team in the country. They have two first team all preseason first team all all American players and they just hadn't found their stride. And just recently they've really as Miami and some other teams on the tournament. They're playing at a high, high level right now.
Ad Announcer
Hey coach, you guys have Alabama coming up here in the sweet 16. How much of your time is spent prepping for the opponent versus just internal kind of working on your own stuff.
Dusty May
Probably 60, 40 with. With Alabama. They're. They're a tough cover. We match up well, really well in some areas, but also there's some, there's some things they could exploit if we don't do a better job than we have at times this year as far as defending the five out, defending the three point shot, but. So we'll spend 70% of our time probably working on the Alabama scouting and 30% just cleaning up some stuff and then adding a few wrinkles here and there.
Greg Cody
We're.
Dusty May
We still feel like we have a. Because our team's only been together one year, we still have some things we can figure out and add and, and improve on even in a short term.
Dan Le Batard
Can you give us some guidance here on the business of what you do and how much it's changed? I want to play some sound for you of Kelvin Sampson, who's pretty good at what he does and his team is really good, saying how recruiting is right.
K
We have a very poor athletic department.
Dan Le Batard
We're poor.
K
You know, we were poor when I got here. We're still poor. We probably have the lowest budget of anybody in Power four, you know, and you know, the way our recruiting is going, we have to stop at some point because we don't have enough money to keep bringing in really good players. And that's not easy for us to do. People ask about recruiting, you know, teams that have the best recruiting classes usually have the most money. That's the way it is today.
Dan Le Batard
Is it dusty?
Dusty May
To an extent, yes. Now though, if you lose, it's simply because you don't have enough money. And it's the tired song. Everyone at Power 5 has a reasonable amount of money. There are some that have a lot. And it's cyclical, meaning we get our donors to provide enough nil for us to have a really good team and we underperform or we don't spend the money wisely, then the money will be gone. I think that's the hardest part, that you never really know exactly what you're going to have in year one. At Michigan, we had. I'm certain we were much lower than them. And in aisle spending this year we got to the point where we're competitive with just about anyone. We're obviously not near the top, but we're competitive and where we felt like we needed to be. Our athletic department is not broke. We have, I think there are a few schools, schools that have a lot of fundraising going on, but we also are a School that tries to be good at everything. And so that's tough as well. We have, obviously, a football powerhouse. Our women's basketball team is one of the best teams in the country. Our hockey team is number one in the country.
Dan Le Batard
Dusty, I'm sorry, I've got to stop you imperfectly and politically incorrect to do so as soon as you start talking about the women. But we've got a live report here. Zas is on the street in the Waymo. This driverless car does not wait for anybody. Zaslo, give Dusty some play by play here. Hurry up. I see it behind you, Coach.
Zaslow
I don't know if you've ever been in one of these cars, these waymos. You know how you could tell that it's yours? It's because it's the car that doesn't have a driver. I mean, I'm about to get in this car with no driver. I'm a little bit nervous because this is not my style. I don't like this, but we're going to go to South Beach.
Dan Le Batard
Zazzle, how did you decide this morning to dress for work? The way you're dressed with the backward cap, a T shirt.
Greg Cody
You're embarrassing.
Dan Le Batard
You look like radio.
Greg Cody
You can't be more professional than this.
Zaslow
I don't think I'm embarrassing myself. I'm living my life. What's wrong with what I'm doing here? What's the matter with you?
Dan Le Batard
Get in the car. Go ahead. You're wasting Dusty's time, and he doesn't have very much. Do you have a question for him, or we're just going to be amid your fear because he doesn't want to actually do this?
Producer or Side Commentator
Good shot here.
Dan Le Batard
Dusty, do you have any questions for
Amin Elhassan
him or the Waymo driver?
Dusty May
No, I'm excited to watch.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, we'll sit here for a second with the Big ten coach of the year and national coach of the Year Dazzle. Can you go over to where they filmed the Scarface Buzzsaw scene in the show? Can you go. Where are you going? Is that. You can go wherever you want.
Zaslow
I'm glad you said. Well, I mean, well, yeah, like, I told the driver to take me to. To south beach to take me to Ocean Drive. And so if you want me to go to the location of the. The chainsaw scene in the bathtub with Scarface, we could do that. So. Okay, let's hit it.
Dan Le Batard
All right. Let's hit it. I've always wanted to say that to. To my driver.
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Amin Elhassan
Yo.
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Dan Le Batard
Oh, absolutely.
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Amin Elhassan
Yeah.
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Oh, delicious.
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Zaslow
never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now, your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture.
Starbucks Announcer
Stugats.
Zaslow
I would die. I don't know where it is.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.
Greg Cody
Do you want to play, Dusty, a
Dan Le Batard
game of may or may not, where I ask you questions and you tell me whether or not Wild Zaslow gives us some play by play. Oh, look, we got music for May
Starbucks Announcer
or may not to sweeten the pot.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it makes it so much better.
Starbucks Announcer
I mean, he could decide to or not, though.
Dan Le Batard
It's public domain music. All right. He's going to decide to do it.
Starbucks Announcer
A yes and kind of guy.
Dan Le Batard
May or I may not put pineapples on pizza.
Dusty May
And my answer? Yes, I may.
Amin Elhassan
Wow.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, okay. Look at that. Shocking admission.
Greg Cody
Terrible question.
Producer or Side Commentator
He's saying he may, so he still might not.
Greg Cody
No.
Depop Announcer
He.
Producer or Side Commentator
No.
Dan Le Batard
He's saying no. That's. That's a confirmation. A may is a yes.
Greg Cody
You not understand the game.
Dan Le Batard
A may. Coach, you certainly understand the game, right?
Dusty May
Correct. Yes.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Greg Cody
He's got no problem, even with my first question.
Starbucks Announcer
Chris, your conditioning looks like it's lacking.
Ad Announcer
We need some sprints in here asap.
Dan Le Batard
May I or may not I. We'll get it together. We'll rally.
Greg Cody
May I or may I not put mustard on a hot dog?
Amin Elhassan
May, of course.
Starbucks Announcer
How about ketchup? That's far more controversial.
Dusty May
May not.
Dan Le Batard
There you go.
Zaslow
But he still might.
Amin Elhassan
My man, Roman.
Producer or Side Commentator
Overall around that borscht belt, yes.
Dusty May
May not means no.
Zaslow
I'm Roy.
Dusty May
He's 16.
Producer or Side Commentator
He seems unsure.
Starbucks Announcer
That's that borscht belt,
Dan Le Batard
man.
Dusty May
I'm fascinated by the way mo.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah. So am I. So am I. Saslo. Give it.
Greg Cody
Give the coach an update here.
Dusty May
Saslow, do you feel safe?
Zaslow
I don't know. I mean, I got my seat belt on, so what's the worst that could happen, right?
Greg Cody
It's a driverless car, drive into the sea, and now you're trapped with your seat belt. What do you mean? What's the worst thing that can happen? A drowning death at the bottom of the Miami Beach.
Amin Elhassan
Take a left turn into a building.
Ad Announcer
The worst thing that could happen is it takes you to CVS in the Bahamas.
Dusty May
Yeah.
Zaslow
So strange.
Dan Le Batard
This is not awkward at all. It's going well. Another question.
Greg Cody
Dano Dusty asked for me to throw it to Jazz and I let him executive produce the segment.
Dan Le Batard
He's a leader. He's a number one seed. He deserves my respect. If he wants to grab the control.
Producer or Side Commentator
Still in the tournament.
Starbucks Announcer
Technically, he threw a disaster himself.
Dan Le Batard
May or may I not? Why do you keep shampoo in the pool,
Dusty May
May?
Producer or Side Commentator
Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. That's my man.
Starbucks Announcer
Took his time with it, too.
Amin Elhassan
Dusty May, a pride of Boca.
Producer or Side Commentator
Ride on.
Dan Le Batard
Foul out.
Amin Elhassan
Foul. Owl on the. Bro.
Dan Le Batard
Your son was singing it to you.
Greg Cody
He was just delighted with his own.
Dan Le Batard
He was listening the sound in his head.
Amin Elhassan
Wonderful.
Dusty May
Hey, Zazlow, you're passing my condo in about two minutes. Straight ahead to the left.
Zaslow
Oh, really?
Greg Cody
Let's not dox him.
Dan Le Batard
Zaz, can you tell us how you're feeling right now? Are you afraid I have a little
Zaslow
bit of butterflies in my stomach? I'm gonna be honest with you, because I don't know. Like the. The driver? Well, I guess I shouldn't say driver. There's no driver. It's just. I don't know. It's rather jarring, man. Like, the three of us were here and.
Producer or Side Commentator
Trippy.
Zaslow
No driver.
Amin Elhassan
Jaguar.
Dan Le Batard
It's. Is it a Jack?
Ad Announcer
It is a Jack. They're all Jags.
Producer or Side Commentator
Nice car.
Dan Le Batard
I didn't know that.
Amin Elhassan
Very nice wheels.
Dan Le Batard
Put it on the poll at Levitar show. Did you know the Waymo was a Jag? Oh, there's the Freedom Tower over on the left. All right, so it's good. It's going. I found these things to be, when I've watched them, more responsible than most at right turns and whatnot. I don't know how these things don't get short circuited, though. Wouldn't that be the fear?
Zaslow
Yeah, let's not talk about that while I'm in the Waymo. Thank you.
Dan Le Batard
All right. May or may I not pee in the pool? Dusty. May.
Dusty May
May not pee in the pool, okay?
Dan Le Batard
But because you're gonna shampoo in it, you don't want urine in.
Dusty May
It's a classy coat. I bathe in the pool.
Dan Le Batard
Dusty, good luck. We know you have to get out of here. We will have you back on, though, to play May or May I not. And whatever else, if you win the championship, you'll make this deal with us now. We miss you, Don.
Dusty May
I look forward to it, guys. I appreciate you having me on.
Dan Le Batard
Thanks, brother. Thank you.
Zaslow
See you, Coach.
Starbucks Announcer
You guys, he was good.
Zaslow
Bye.
Ad Announcer
This is why we can't book guests, because you guys bring this guy in, he's having a great season. He's coach of the year. And we spent half of it just talking about Zaz, which, by the way, that Waymo's making laps around the building. That whole time, all they did was just do one big Ass lap around the block.
Starbucks Announcer
Nobody wanted that segment to work out more than Dusty May.
Dan Le Batard
I will take whatever blame there is to give. I haven't felt quite like this since we were trying to do a cigarette boat at the same time that a Daily show correspondent was on with us and got mad at us.
Ad Announcer
Ronnie Cheng?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, he got mad.
Zaslow
The driver, my Waymo driver. He stopped for people to cross the crosswalk.
Amin Elhassan
How dare he?
Zaslow
How does it know not to run people over?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's the cameras. It's the technology and magic and. And so far, there haven't been any incidents yet. Right. I know with some of these robots locally, there's been a bright line hit. One of them. I don't know if it was a Waymo or one of these. One of these food carts or. I don't know, but Waymo hasn't had any issues. But that's. That would be the.
Zaslow
And here's also the thing, Dan, I'm sorry to interrupt you, but, like, people, they're staring at us and should.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, because you don't have a driver. Because there's not a driver.
Zaslow
Everyone we pass by is just staring at us.
Dan Le Batard
Is it. Is anything talking to you, telling you anything, asking you anything? Does a computer ask you anything?
Zaslow
No. No, we just told it where we want to go, and it's taking me. I kind of like that, because when I get into Ubers, I hate having to talk to the driver. I'm not here to make friends.
Dan Le Batard
Well, most of them here don't speak. Most of them here don't even speak English, like, most of them.
Dusty May
Okay.
Zaslow
But I travel a lot, Dan. I'm not sure if you're aware of that. So. I take Uber often, and I don't care about talking to the drivers again, I'm not trying to make friends, trying to make money.
Dan Le Batard
What you're saying is it's easy. This is easier than Uber. You just told the thing to take you somewhere, and you don't have to explain it to someone who doesn't speak English.
Zaslow
Well, I'm trading off. I guess I'm making a trade here. You know, I'm trading away potential safety for comfort level.
Producer or Side Commentator
Sass. How's the temperature in there? Like, what if you get cold? Can you control the air?
Zaslow
What's the matter with you? You don't think there are buttons here to control the ac?
Ad Announcer
I don't know. I mean, just hold on. You're not going to call Chris's question dumb when you said, how does it know not to run people over? You Think they would have a car on the street that just runs people over left and right?
Producer or Side Commentator
Yeah.
Zaslow
Not understand. Having trouble understanding how a car that doesn't have a driver knows to not run people over is a valid concern.
Amin Elhassan
Zazlo, hop in the front seat and take the wheel. Make a statement for human empowerment.
Producer or Side Commentator
I'm the captain now.
Starbucks Announcer
This is how you prove you're not a cuck.
Dan Le Batard
Zaz, you saying potential safety.
Zaslow
Don't ever say that.
Amin Elhassan
Afraid to do it.
Dan Le Batard
I'm going to guess that waymos are safer than south Florida drivers. Like, I don't think that's even up for dispute.
Amin Elhassan
Way more safer way.
Zaslow
I got to be honest here. This waymo is taken, like, the worst route.
Dan Le Batard
Well, why did it go in circles around the freedom tower? Is that true? Was that the accusation that was made? Was it inefficient? Is it not going directly to where it is you need to go right now?
Zaslow
It's a little bit inefficient. Like, it's one of those deals where, you know, like, when you put in the GPS or in the ways and it tells you, you know, the shortest way to get somewhere, but it's like you're taking a million back rows. Just get on the damn highway. Get me to where I'm going. That's what I feel like, you know,
Amin Elhassan
tell the car to start doing screeching tires. I want to hear spin donuts.
Dan Le Batard
Greg, you sound like an old drone. Greg, you sound like an old drone. Here's pin donuts, Greg. It's the most redundant, by the way.
Greg Cody
Can I tell you guys what just happened?
Amin Elhassan
Synonym.
Dan Le Batard
Let me explain to you guys what
Greg Cody
just happened so you understand.
Dan Le Batard
That was wild. No, Chris, I'm going to explain to you the surreal show we do with your dad and what just happened, because I don't think you noticed because Zaz
Greg Cody
is in a car far away that has a driverless wheel. He is shouting at Zaz as you would if you were shouting at him outside. It's the closest he's been to the
Dan Le Batard
microphone in 18 months because he thinks
Greg Cody
as can hear it him better if he shouts it at him straight into
Dan Le Batard
the microphone because he's talking to the computer screen because he thinks he's shouting into the future. That's what just happened with your father.
Greg Cody
He's never been that engaged with the
Dan Le Batard
microphone in 21 years doing this with him.
Amin Elhassan
Thank you.
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Producer or Side Commentator
problem when he was pro shampoo. I'm like, I fed my dad say foul out on the proud 14 times. My dad's just like, yeah, you say it.
Dan Le Batard
Can we get that? Just get that 45 seconds for me and please show me. If you could tell me. There was a camera on Chris Cody
Greg Cody
as he threw papers in the air
Dan Le Batard
because he tried to give his dad an alley.
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Greg Cody
Easiest joke in the world seven times. But his dad was strutting around the wrestling ring just enjoying still that he got to sing foul Owl on the prowl and ask his shitty fau questions.
Producer or Side Commentator
And I'm like, say it. And he finally said it, and it was just. God.
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Greg Cody
Say falobrau.
Dan Le Batard
Say fal.
Producer or Side Commentator
O'.
Amin Elhassan
Brau.
Dan Le Batard
Please get me that video. I want to watch all of that again together. I believe, though, this Waymo's got an issue because it's taking Zaz way too long to go four blocks. Are they going in circles over there?
Zaslow
Waymo, get in the lane that has the cones because of construction line.
Producer or Side Commentator
I like that.
Dan Le Batard
You are three blocks from the hotel. Says you. You haven't moved anywhere.
Starbucks Announcer
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Dan Le Batard
No, it had to be more than a circle. This is the entire time Zaz has been on. He has gone now three blocks, and he's been moving the entire time.
Zaslow
The lights out here, you know, the really ugly arches.
Dan Le Batard
It is confused. St. Louis, it's confused here. Is that a green light or is that no light?
Starbucks Announcer
The lights. The lights out. He should be in that right lane, turn into the beach.
Zaslow
Oh, no.
Producer or Side Commentator
It's gonna wait forever.
Greg Cody
Confused. You're just gonna sit out the light is.
Zaslow
And there's. And there's. It says on the screen here, our team is working to get you moving.
Amin Elhassan
What team? No team there.
Zaslow
Turning a traffic.
Greg Cody
I can't see you.
Producer or Side Commentator
Traffic.
Greg Cody
The computers says. The computers have not accounted for Miami being Miami. Of course.
Producer or Side Commentator
Oh, he's moving now.
Greg Cody
Of course there would be a light
Zaslow
getting on the highway now. I'm concerned now. I don't feel safe.
Greg Cody
Okay. No, it got you out of. That's a bigger jam.
Producer or Side Commentator
We're getting on the highway now.
Dan Le Batard
Zaz, that was a bigger jam than
Greg Cody
any of the other jams, Miami being Miami, and just a light being out at an important intersection that could have
Dan Le Batard
short circuited the thing because there were
Greg Cody
cars moving past you. You said, you should be there already. You should be there.
Zaslow
You're five minutes sitting in the middle of the road.
Greg Cody
You've.
Dan Le Batard
The entire time we were on the air wasting dusty May's time, You've been going in circles.
Greg Cody
You've been doing this for the better
Dan Le Batard
part of 30 minutes, have you not?
Greg Cody
You've gone three blocks.
Zaslow
Yeah, I've been in this car for about an hour and a half now.
Producer or Side Commentator
Dazzling.
Zaslow
It says that we are 12 minutes away.
Dan Le Batard
Yes, well, it's a. It's a straight shot. You will go past. This is lovely here. This is a lovely.
Producer or Side Commentator
Holding onto that door with his left hand so hard.
Dan Le Batard
All right, Says, how do you feel about how everything's going? Because you're now going. Are you going exactly 55 miles an hour? That's a 40 zone, actually. That's a 40 zone, I think.
Zaslow
Yeah, we're going 45 right now. We're. We're just approaching the tunnel now. So we're getting close to South Beach.
Dan Le Batard
How uncomfortable is Fuentes? Because you said there were three people in the car with you. It looks like you're alone. The whole thing. The whole thing really feels like it's from the future.
Zaslow
Yeah, well, I'm not alone. All right. You know, I. I got. I got Fuentes next to me. He's looking like the seat's a little tight for him, though, to be perfectly honest. A little scrunched up together. I'm comfortable, though. That's what's important.
Dan Le Batard
Okay. Yeah, it's a little tight. How. How is.
Greg Cody
How is Rose doing? Is Rose.
Dan Le Batard
It seems like it's uncomfortable.
Zaslow
I don't know. She's in the other room there. Tell her I say, hey.
Amin Elhassan
Oh, man.
Producer or Side Commentator
We have our Waymo camera person there. It's actually not a real person.
Dan Le Batard
All right, so, Zad, you're pretty close, and you're going to the place where Scarface. I told this story earlier, Greg. There's a famous strip on Ocean Drive. We were talking about Miami Vice yesterday. This used to be an entirely dead area. And then Scarface and Miami Vice gave the city a certain image nationally. And on Ocean Drive is the little hotel where the Colombian drug lords tried to chainsaw Al Pacino and his friends. And it was gonna be an X rated movie. And they made the arguments to Hollywood. No, we don't see Buzz Saw. Touch Flesh. And so you're going to that hotel now, which of course is a pharmacy. Correct? It's now a pharmacy.
Producer or Side Commentator
Yeah, it's a CVS.
Dan Le Batard
All right, so that's the one near
Amin Elhassan
the 5th Street Gym, right?
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, yeah, it's relatively close. But you remember the guy staggered into the street like it was. It was considered the most graphic to turn an R movie into an X rated movie was that scene, the Buzzsaw scene in it. That was that. That stuff was happening in Miami back then. Greg, you grew up in that Miami.
Amin Elhassan
Well, I grew up in that Broward county, about 30 miles north.
Dan Le Batard
I'm saying in the 80s, you raised your kids in the Miami where that could happen in a local hotel room. The drug wars allowed. There were people in strip malls, in the street gunned down because it was the wild, wild west.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah. Every table had a mountain of chalk on it. Except it wasn't chalk.
Dan Le Batard
So that is where Zaz is going. Zaz, you tell us when you're there and we'll check back in with you. Okay?
Zaslow
We're passing Star island right now, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, so that's the richest stuff we've got over there. Bezos and everybody else is trying to buy everything for $150 million.
Zaslow
Plus I got five on it.
Dan Le Batard
What does that mean?
Amin Elhassan
$5?
Zaslow
Yeah, means I'm getting in on it.
Dan Le Batard
Greg, can you.
Gambling Problem PSA
Marijuana reference.
Dan Le Batard
Can you explain yourself? As would have been so frustrated with you if he had seen your son. This has never happened here before. Have you guys seen this happen before? Where Chris Cody gets so frustrated. So frustrated with his father that because. Because he was yelling a joke at him.
Greg Cody
That only works if he's the one that makes it.
Dan Le Batard
It.
Greg Cody
Only the rest of us making it
Dan Le Batard
doesn't make it funny.
Greg Cody
He's got to make the joke, but he's too busy dancing to oh, Coach like my foul owl on the prowl.
Dan Le Batard
On the prowl that he didn't hear that he.
Producer or Side Commentator
That.
Dan Le Batard
That he just was. It's very frustrating. I mean, delightful.
Zaslow
I mean, coach could be studying tape right now. Instead, he's answering foul owl on the prowl questions.
Amin Elhassan
I know. While Zaslo is driving in a car being driven by the invisible man from a Ralph Ellison novel.
Dan Le Batard
All right, Greg, I don't know what
Zaslow
those two have to do with each.
Dan Le Batard
Craig, you haven't been very good today, okay? And I want to play for you an example of this. You were very good. You were very good last week, but
Greg Cody
you just made your son.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, has he ever thrown his
Greg Cody
papers up in the air before? He had a big stack of papers. I have no idea from the way that he does this show that he had done anything in the way of planning or organization. So to see him back there throw seven papers up in the when I don't think he reads. And he proved at the start of that segment that he doesn't know how to him throwing seven papers up in the air frustrated because his dad wouldn't take the easiest joke. I've never seen it before.
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Producer or Side Commentator
the ocean because he was like hearing me say it and like celebrating like I was saying it on air. It's like, no, just for you. Say it.
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Zaslow
Don Lebatard John, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's way? If I do it for you? I think it's pretty good.
Producer or Side Commentator
Yeah.
Zaslow
Okay.
Starbucks Announcer
Stugats.
Zaslow
You think you're big time? Are you gonna die big time?
Producer or Side Commentator
That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10.
Dan Le Batard
That's a.
Producer or Side Commentator
That's a 7.6 solid.
Dan Le Batard
Good job.
Zaslow
Good job.
Starbucks Announcer
That's a suey nominee right there.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stug.
Greg Cody
So just to show people behind the curtains as we'll get back to you in a second, we evidently have a replay.
Dan Le Batard
And Greg, I want you to see it so that you can see, because I haven't seen it. I just lived it. I felt it. And I felt for your son. He's in charge of the thing back there. It flies off the rails sometimes and offends the celebrities. The show's hard to book because of stupidities like that.
Amin Elhassan
The thing back there.
Dan Le Batard
I actually presuming. Yeah, it's hard to book because of other people. I'm presuming when doing that. And I have a blind spot here, admittedly, because I can't wait to hear from Coogler at the end of this. I have a blind spot about. I totally assumed from the very start because Dusty May was a friend of the show the last time and because he's local and because he understands that he knows what our show is, that he was in on the joke. I presumed it without asking him.
Starbucks Announcer
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Producer or Side Commentator
I imagine he leaves that kind of just shaking his head, smiling, and then like, the Michigan program's like, well, that
Zaslow
was a waste of time.
Starbucks Announcer
Oh, Dan. So not much has changed down there, huh? All right, what time's a citrus poll against Bama?
Dan Le Batard
Because people wanted a serious interview.
Zaslow
I loved it.
Dan Le Batard
No, but I.
Starbucks Announcer
It had potential.
Amin Elhassan
No doubt.
Starbucks Announcer
We. We fell short, but, like, I thought it was fine.
Dan Le Batard
Well, but no, no, no. I. From a content standpoint. And I want to ask Amin and I want to ask Greg Cody if we're going to dissect this particular. This. What about Siegfried? I'm not interested right now in the opinions of Siegfried or Roy. What I am interested in before we get back to the waymo, is when we do that interview with Dusty May, you guys know, I mean, we've done this enough, right? 21 years. I don't love talking to the coaches because they come on and they say their things and it's sales and it's platitudes and people do eat it up. They gobble it up. Especially if you're a coach of the moment. But coaching interviews, to me, I hate them. I hate them.
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Dan Le Batard
No, but not his. No. So he comes. Look, this is a worthy, newsworthy guest. Last year, I turned down Kelvin Sampson. I got in trouble with Coogler on that one just because the coach interviews
Greg Cody
are maddening to me.
Dan Le Batard
They're professional Salesmen, all of them.
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Dan Le Batard
That's correct.
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Dan Le Batard
And so this is the time of
Greg Cody
the year for them.
Dan Le Batard
And furthermore, because I grew up in a market and you guys know this, where in South Florida, all they did they
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tracks. Given what we're seeing.
Producer or Side Commentator
Fruit aisle birth on aisle eight.
Greg Cody
Food aisle.
Zaslow
Oh, boy.
Dan Le Batard
Food aisle.
Dusty May
One of them.
Dan Le Batard
Food aisles.
Starbucks Announcer
Who said fruit
Producer or Side Commentator
still? I mean, popular island produce is generally not an aisle. It's like a section, but whatever.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, a bogo. Thank you.
Dan Le Batard
In this market where for 20 years the university of Miami basketball program was very frustrated because it couldn't get actually into the game with Leonard Hamilton and a million other coaches. The way that South Florida Sports radio celebrated this time of year is getting all the Seth Greenberg's of the room, all the salesmen in one room. And they would get on and do long shows for days with the coaches selling their sports to people. And then Dick Vital comes on with us and gets furious because we say,
Greg Cody
hey, we think Pitino cheats. We think, think.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Starbucks Announcer
Come on, Dan.
Dan Le Batard
Come on, Dan. And hangs up on our show. That's correct. Because what do you.
Greg Cody
What?
Dan Le Batard
You're not in on the sales, guys. You're not. I thought we were all selling this together. You think Dusty May comes on our show and expects to be able to sell Michigan to the nation? You think like with. With. I'm going to do the platitudes versus I'm going to show my personality.
Starbucks Announcer
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Starbucks Announcer
Yeah, I. You're talking now about coaching interviews in a vacuum. And I don't think. I think Dusty May was very playful and very.
Dan Le Batard
But what I'm asking Amin and Greg is, do you want me to get the sound on? And this is how we're going to play against Alabama?
Greg Cody
No.
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I mean, not necessarily. I think that the idea is that we're going to push the envelope within reason and hope that they play along. And sometimes they do like Dusty did. And I think you turning down Kelvin Sampson was a massive mistake because he's a guy. He's reached the age where it's like, I don't care anymore. I'm not gonna do the political thing. I'm just gonna say what I feel. And he could have been a great quote. I think you need to stop judging books by their covers.
Amin Elhassan
I personally think we Played it right. Because there's a million other places you can go to hear Dusty may analyze Alabama.
Producer or Side Commentator
So let's ask him about leaving fau.
Starbucks Announcer
Good call.
Amin Elhassan
Exactly. That's right, because he volunteered it by saying he misses Boca. Right on.
Dan Le Batard
Hold on. Zas is on Ocean Drive now. I can see that familiar strip of land. It is one of the most famous. And look, he's pulling up right now.
Zaslow
All right, everyone is staring at us. Dan, there was. There was a woman. She physically grabbed her child's head and manually turned it around to look at the freak show.
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Starbucks Announcer
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Zaslow
Give me a moment. I gotta get out of the car.
Dan Le Batard
So. But is it telling you to get out of the car or take us through here Station?
Zaslow
I'm just. I'm very aware of being at the location I asked it to take us, so I know to get out.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, but is someone around you telling you to get out? Just for a second, because I. Is the car then leaving? Are you coming back on the car as well? How does this work? Are you. Are we gonna.
Zaslow
The car says, please exit now.
Dan Le Batard
Wow.
Amin Elhassan
With an exclamation point.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, so before you do that. Good. Follow up. Greg, is there an exclamation point?
Zaslow
That guy right there is taking a picture of us. That's not creepy at all.
Dan Le Batard
Are you gonna come back in that car? Or as you get out, is the car then going to abandon you? Are we going to televise your return?
Zaslow
His car is gonna dip.
Dan Le Batard
Okay, get out then, and show us the. Where the famous Scarface scene happened. Take us on a little tour, would you please?
Amin Elhassan
Yep.
Zaslow
Give me a second.
Amin Elhassan
All right. Hitchhike back.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, he can just Uber or take a taxi. Why would you have him hitchhike?
Amin Elhassan
It'd be funny.
Producer or Side Commentator
Taxi.
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Amin Elhassan
It would.
Dan Le Batard
There are still taxi. There are still taxis.
Producer or Side Commentator
Let's just get it.
Dan Le Batard
With the taxi struggling.
Zaslow
Yellow cab.
Dan Le Batard
Roy. It's fair to say. It's fair to say. The taxi. The taxi has to feel very threatened right now by what? We just televised the taxi.
Greg Cody
The taxi was already hurt because of
Dan Le Batard
Uber, but there still are taxis on the beach. Yes. Shocking to me. And so here goes. All right, so here. The car's gonna leave. Goodbye, Waymo. Thank you for all the help. Zaslo, hold on just a second. Before you go up there, can I get a replay of Chris Cody Just throwing the papers up in the air. Please, may or may I not. Why do you keep shampoo in the pool?
Dusty May
Me?
Producer or Side Commentator
Yeah, right here.
Dusty May
I start feeding him.
Amin Elhassan
Yeah, that's my man.
Dan Le Batard
He's feeding you, right?
Greg Cody
He's. He's feeding.
Amin Elhassan
Right on.
Producer or Side Commentator
Say it.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, that's why he had his bokeh. Right on. Look, he's a proud. No, that's what it was. I missed it the first time. We don't got the papers being thrown up in the air. No, he wanted to shout boca. Right on. And he was just like, feeling the
Greg Cody
top of humor, like that's all it was.
Dan Le Batard
Greg was really pleased with himself there.
Amin Elhassan
I'm a. I'm an. I'm an owl. I'm proud of my alumni. He's gone on to do great things with a springboard of Boca. Right on.
Dan Le Batard
Sads, give us the play by play of what you're doing right now.
Zaslow
He's not an alum. He didn't go to fau. Dusty May.
Amin Elhassan
Well, I did. I went to FAU for both of us.
Dan Le Batard
What happened to you not being a fan and being a journalist and all that stuff?
Amin Elhassan
What happened to you not banging a drum at a Panthers game? I went to. You never played for the Panthers. I went to fau, so.
Dan Le Batard
Gotcha.
Amin Elhassan
It's where I met my wife.
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Amin Elhassan
Christopher would not be here if I hadn't gone to fau.
Starbucks Announcer
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Zaslow
straight out of Scarface.
Dan Le Batard
That's a great car right there. Yeah.
Zaslow
Dan, it's hot outside.
Amin Elhassan
Crying.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, we got our last. I think good night and good morning of the year. In terms of weather. I think the rest of the way it's going to be baking sun the rest of the way. This is a long walk for you. Why did car leave you so far away from where it is that you're going? I thought it was leaving you right in the front, I think.
Greg Cody
Are you in the right place?
Zaslow
Yeah, I'm in the right place. I recognize this area. See, here's the cvs. I'm literally next to the CVS now.
Amin Elhassan
Start jogging, get a little exercise in.
Zaslow
But that is a good point. Like, it dropped us off like a block away.
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Producer or Side Commentator
Spray Prince.
Dan Le Batard
Are you tired? Are you winded Sword from yesterday's streak hockey?
Zaslow
I'm tired. I'm walking. What's the matter with you? All right, right here. See it?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, look at this.
Zaslow
The staircase that was used in the filming of Scarface. Starring Al Pacino and Stephen Bauer and Mary Elizabeth Mastantonio and Michelle Pfeiffer. This scene depicts the Chainsaw Massacre and is a world famous Hollywood landmark. What a movie.
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Zaslow
That's a fair question.
Dan Le Batard
Yeah, we don't, you know, we don't do English great in this town that
Dusty May
well, neither do you.
Producer or Side Commentator
You kept asking may I? You or may kept throwing the I in there.
Dan Le Batard
So good. All right, take us up to the hotel room or the motel room, I guess. It was the first one on the right, I think.
Zaslow
But look, look here. Look with the camera.
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Zaslow
It's chained off. Off.
Amin Elhassan
Huh.
Producer or Side Commentator
But ah, that's an easy.
Zaslow
Apparently we are not allowed to go to the site.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but you can jump over, do the limbo.
Producer or Side Commentator
Okay.
Dan Le Batard
You don't. Or the limbo. Yeah.
Amin Elhassan
Or under. Okay.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
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Dan Le Batard
Yeah, it's my. It's Miami.
Amin Elhassan
You're now trespassing.
Dan Le Batard
Nothing bad would happen there.
Producer or Side Commentator
Now Danny's climbing over.
Zaslow
They're going to do the same thing. Nothing.
Dan Le Batard
They could buzz saw you. Would you recreate the scene for us? Do you think you can stagger down the staircase and fall down in Ocean Drive as if you've been. You know what? Didn't Tony like what he do? Did he shoot him a couple of times or did he? There was some reason that the guy with the chainsaw was staggering down the stairs and overacting the hell out of it.
Zaslow
Dan, do you know that the restaurant right next to here, right there, it's called Montana's.
Dan Le Batard
I did not know that. Tony Montana's. Good call. I did not know that.
Zaslow
Yeah, right in there. That's where Tony was about to get chainsawed.
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Dan Le Batard
Okay. I mean just whispered to me, this is great podcasting.
Zaslow
It really was on the air.
Greg Cody
It really doesn't work. Oh, I thought on.
Dan Le Batard
Oh boy, oh boy.
Zaslow
Good hour from you, Dano.
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That's a great attitude.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – "The Big Suey: The Foul Wolverine On The Prowl (Feat. Dusty May)"
Date: March 24, 2026
Featured Guest: Dusty May (University of Michigan Head Coach)
Location: The Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
This episode of "The Big Suey" features a uniquely Le Batard blend of sports talk, chaotic humor, and South Florida flavor. Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew are joined by Michigan men's basketball coach Dusty May for a wide-ranging conversation, weaving together May’s coaching journey, his thoughts on college basketball’s changing business, and plenty of off-the-wall shenanigans involving driverless Waymo cars and Miami pop culture lore. The show’s trademark inside jokes and playful ribbing run throughout, culminating in memorable segments like "May or May Not" and a playful Scarface scene reenactment.
Timestamps: 01:18–05:13
Timestamps: 05:41–08:28
Timestamps: 08:04–09:43
Timestamps: 09:43–11:42
Timestamps: 11:42–44:31
Timestamps: 29:35–46:15
Timestamps: 16:12–19:01
Timestamps: 21:13–27:54, 34:00–39:44
On Discipline & the NCAA:
On NIL & College Athletics:
On Driverless Cars:
On Miami’s Pop Culture:
Inside the Show Banter:
This episode captures everything unique about the Le Batard Show: high-profile (if slightly chaotic) guest segments, biting commentary on the evolution of college sports, loving mockery of each other, and an affection for Miami’s quirks. Dusty May is both a straight man and willing participant in the fun, while Zaslow's Waymo adventure delivers a running gag (literally) that ties the episode together. The result is a must-listen for fans of sports and absurdist radio, as well as anyone interested in the evolving landscape of college athletics.
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