The Big Suey: The Great Drum Decision of 2025 (feat. Peter Rosenberg)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: The Great Drum Decision of 2025 (feat. Peter Rosenberg)
Release Date: March 3, 2025
Hosts: Dan LeBatard, Stugotz, Chris Cody, Greg Cody, Roy Bellamy, Billy Gill
Guest: Peter Rosenberg

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, the hosts delve into a variety of topics spanning the NBA, the Oscars, and the evolving landscape of WWE with special guest Peter Rosenberg. Tensions rise as Dan faces a moral dilemma about participating in a ceremonial drum activity for the Miami Panthers, sparking engaging debates and humorous exchanges among the panel.

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1. NBA Analysis: LeBron James and the Heat vs. Knicks Rivalry

The conversation kicks off with a deep dive into LeBron James' impact on the NBA, particularly focusing on his recent statements about the pressures of being the league's face.

• LeBron's Mastery and Evolution:

  • Chris Cody [02:48]: "LeBron mastered the entirety of the sport. Since turning 40, all his stats except for a few have improved."
  • Greg Cody [04:19]: Highlights LeBron's dual nature as both a "master of the game" and a "sensitive human being," contrasting him with legends like Kobe and Jordan.

• LeBron's Public Perception:

  • Chris Cody [05:06]: Questions why LeBron would publicly express concerns about being the NBA's face, suggesting a shift in how athletes engage with social media and public scrutiny.
  • Greg Cody [06:13]: Discusses how LeBron's advocacy and political stances have polarized public opinion, making him a controversial figure compared to his predecessors.

• Heat vs. Knicks Dynamics:

  • Chris Cody [07:45]: Argues that the New York Knicks have recently surpassed the Miami Heat, noting the Knicks' eight victories over the Heat in their last ten matchups.
  • Stugotz [08:05]: Expresses disbelief, stating a lifelong admiration for the Heat's dominance over the Knicks, despite recent upsets.
  • Greg Cody [09:34]: Praises the Cleveland Cavaliers' season performance, bringing a comparative perspective to team dynamics and playoff prospects.

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2. Oscars Discussion: Greg Cody's Take on "Nora" and the Evolving Film Landscape

The hosts transition to discussing the latest Oscars, with Greg Cody offering his unique perspective on the Best Picture winner and the broader trends in the film industry.

• "Nora" Wins Best Picture:

  • Greg Cody [11:58]: Surprised by "Nora" winning Best Picture, questioning its standing compared to more traditional Oscar contenders like "Oppenheimer" and "Killers of the Flower Moon."
  • Roy Bellamy [12:34]: Mentions alternative winners such as "I'm Still Here" and "Conclave," suggesting a diverse range of acceptable nominees.

• Sequels and Franchise Films:

  • Chris Cody [12:40]: Proposes a poll on whether sequels like "Dune Part Two" should ever be Oscar-worthy, referencing past successes of franchises like "The Godfather."
  • Mike Ryan [16:00]: Points out that classic James Bond films have won significant Oscars, particularly in technical categories, adding depth to the discussion about franchise recognition.

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3. WWE Evolve Promotion: Peter Rosenberg on the New Series

Peter Rosenberg discusses WWE's latest initiative, WWE Evolve, aimed at showcasing emerging talent and expanding the WWE brand.

• Introduction to WWE Evolve:

  • Peter Rosenberg [14:35]: "Evolve starts on Wednesday on Tubi. It's the new show to expose people to new talent—the future stars of the company."

• Personal Involvement and Aspirations:

  • Peter Rosenberg [14:35]: Shares excitement about his first play-by-play role, drawing parallels to his longtime dream of emulating wrestling legends like Gorilla Monsoon.

• Creative Shifts in WWE:

  • Stugotz [16:29]: Compares John Cena's heel turn to historic moments in WWE, emphasizing its significance in the wrestling narrative.

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4. The Big Suey: Dan LeBatard's Drum Decision Dilemma

A central theme of the episode revolves around Dan LeBatard's internal conflict about whether to participate in a ceremonial drum activity for a Miami Panthers game, balancing journalistic integrity with entertainment expectations.

• Dan's Moral Conundrum:

  • Dan LeBatard [22:07]: "Dan is having a moral conundrum... he thinks his journalistic integrity is going to get in the way of him participating."

• Host Opinions and Pressure:

  • Greg Cody [22:32]: Urges Dan to embrace the opportunity, likening it to other personalities who engage in similar activities.
  • Stugotz [37:35]: "You should do this because your job falls more in line with entertainment than journalism these days."

• Dan's Reluctance and Fear:

  • Chris Cody [35:29]: Describes his anxiety about performing poorly, creating a humorous yet relatable portrayal of Dan's hesitation.
  • Stugotz [38:55]: Predicts potential mishaps if Dan decides to proceed, adding levity to the tense discussion.

• Resolution Unclear:

  • The episode concludes without a definitive decision from Dan, leaving listeners anticipating future developments on this personal and professional crossroads.

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5. Additional Highlights

• Language and Cultural Representation:

  • Chris Cody [29:50]: Critiques the use of "Vamos Gatos" (Let's Go Cats) as pandering, sparking a light-hearted debate on cultural authenticity.

• Wrestling Nostalgia:

  • Stugotz [17:55]: Reminisces about Gorilla Monsoon, blending wrestling history with current WWE narratives.

• Humorous Banter and Host Dynamics:

  • The episode is peppered with humorous exchanges, playful teasing, and mutual ribbing among hosts, enhancing the show's engaging and relatable atmosphere.

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Notable Quotes

• Greg Cody [04:19]: "I think his friendly approach is one of the things that people don't love about this version of the league."

• Chris Cody [05:06]: "Explain to me, Peter, why LeBron James would be saying out loud at 40, you don't want to be the face of the NBA."

• Peter Rosenberg [14:35]: "Evolve is the new show to expose people to new talent—the future stars of the company."

• Chris Cody [35:29]: "I have envisioned a scenario where I hit it so hard the first time that it flies out of my hand because I have not practiced."

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Conclusion

This episode masterfully weaves together intense sports analysis, cultural critiques, and personal stories, all while maintaining the signature humor and camaraderie among the hosts. Peter Rosenberg's insights into WWE Evolve add a fresh dimension, and Dan LeBatard's dilemma provides a compelling narrative thread. Listeners are left entertained and thoughtfully engaged, eagerly awaiting Dan's final decision on the drum.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Stugotz]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show.

[Greg Cody]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Billy Gill]

I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.

[Greg Cody]

In fact, the only difference seems to be imaging.

[Chris Cody]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Greg Cody]

I've done it.

[Chris Cody]

And now here's the marching man to.

[Greg Cody]

Nowhere fat face and the habitual liar.

[Chris Cody]

Peter Rosenberg is going to join us here momentarily to talk ostensibly about Oscars, but I also want to talk some basketball with him and Roy. Give me the stat of the day music, please, because I'm just going to put something on the screen here and I'm going to get Peter Rosenberg's instant reaction. Reaction is someone who's loved sports for a long time to give me like 30 seconds on the stat I'm gonna put in front of him right now. Start of the day, start of the day it is the start of the day Start of the day Start of the day it is the start of the day Start of the day Start.

[Mike Ryan]

Of the day it is the start of the day Start of the day.

[Chris Cody]

Start of the day it is the start of the.

[Greg Cody]

Hey.

[Stugotz]

Stat of today is presented by Miller Lite.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you for playing the short version of that. I have said that in My lifetime, the best basketball I have ever seen played by a single individual was the last of LeBron James here in Miami in his prime when he mastered basketball and shot like 58% from the field because he just mastered the entirety of the sport. The stat in front of you right now has his lines from the 20122013 MVP with Miami, and it also has his statistics since turning 40 years old. And since turning 40 years old, all the stats, except for, you know, 3, 10 of a point scoring, all of the stats are better now than they were his 2012, 2013 MVP season. So, Peter, mastery and the highest form of art or science has made it so 40 year olds can be better than they've ever been.

[Greg Cody]

I'll go with a healthy combination of both, but I, I think it is more mastery for LeBron James. I mean, the fact of the matter is, if LeBron wasn't the nice guy that he is and sort of the regular human being, like if he was a freakish monster, a competitive lunatic, I think people would be a lot more comfortable putting him in the, in the conversation for Goat. I really think that's his biggest flaw is that people don't think he's a killer because you look at the numbers and they're just. It's absolutely insane.

[Chris Cody]

The thing I wanted to talk to you about because this was something I saw over the weekend and it legitimately made me sad about the era that he played plays in because he is articulating at the end of what is a majestic run of greatness through the sports argument culture. He's saying, yeah, you don't want to be the face of the NBA. Why would you want to be the face. Why would you want to be me? No, you don't want to be me. Everybody's just going to shit on you. All the players today are going to shit on you. You don't want to be the social media star face of the NBA because you're going to all of a sudden go from you used to get nothing but applause before you did that television show to now you're something that exists as you're not great enough and less than human on the Internet. So you explain to me, Peter, why LeBron James would be saying out loud at 40, you don't want to be the face of the NBA. Not the way we talk about the NBA today.

[Greg Cody]

It's the exact thing that I just said. It's because he's not that dude. Like, he is not a killer. You know, that is, that was not a Kobe or Jordan thing to say. That was a LeBron James thing to say, which is basically to admit he is a sensitive human being. He gets bothered when, you know, people he respects from the game. Former players have criticisms of the guys who run this, this league now or the faces of this league. I think it bothers him and I. And I think that is exactly what separates him. Kobe would have been a middle fingers up. Of course, I'm the face of this league. And if you have a problem with the league, fu or I agree with you, we do need to fix this league. And that's not LeBron's style. So I really do see it as sort of the same thing. I didn't love. I didn't love the respond, the response from LeBron because although I do think LeBron is one of the greatest players who's ever lived, I do think his friendly approach is one of the things that people don't love about this version of the league.

[Roy Bellamy]

Didn't he also say, like, I didn't ask for any of this in the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Same quote he did?

[Greg Cody]

I think that's what. What he did.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Greg Cody]

It's like a. Why would he ask for it? I didn't ask for it. I was just given this. But at the same time as I'm saying the things that I'll point out as flaws about LeBron James, a lot of the arrows that LeBron takes, Dan, no one knows this any better than you. He takes them because of who he is and the issues he's decided to stand for off the court as well. Like, just like I said, Michael Jordan was the killer on the floor. Michael also said Republicans buy sneakers. He didn't stand for anything. Whereas LeBron James has been so hated by people on the right that they think he made up racial slurs and put them on his. So we can't ignore that. Part of the criticism with LeBron is that he has stood for things at times that a certain sector of the population doesn't want to hear about.

[Chris Cody]

Before we get to the Oscars, I will tell you, and I don't know if Mike Ryan hides from this. I would not blame him if he did. For the first time in 15 years, Miami is getting punched in the face with the idea that the Knicks are better. Ever since playing the Miami Heat in the playoffs when Jalen Brunson wasn't good enough and clearly not good enough for the Jimmy Butlers Heat, what you've seen happen over the last couple of years is the Knicks have surpassed the Heat. So much so that last Night when scoring gets hard, what happens to the Heat always happens to the Heat late. And the Knicks run away with the game and have now won eight of their last 10 against the Miami Heat because they're clearly better than the Miami Heat. Nobody would dispute that. It is a sword that hurts to put down because it's not something that's been so for 15 years.

[Stugotz]

I don't even have a callus built up for it because really, there was a brief moment in time for about two years where the Knicks were reminding the Heat in the playoffs that they were better than them. And then my entire adult life has been charmed with the fact that I've known Miami Heat are way better than that New York Knicks franchise and more illustrious when it comes to the game's history than that France.

[Chris Cody]

I don't like the smile on Rosenberg's face right now. It bothers me.

[Stugotz]

Well, I mean, if he's a Knicks guy, he also knows that they haven't accomplished anything. The only thing that they've accomplished is letting Miami know that they are now better than them, which is, you know, kudos to them. Not often.

[Greg Cody]

No, no, listen, I'm not. I'm not a Knicks fan. I'm a Celtics fan who just covers the Knicks every day. I will say it is. I do get pleasure from seeing you guys down bad.

[Chris Cody]

That's what I'm saying. Yes, that's so. That's what I'm saying. Like, it was. Yes, it doesn't matter. But. But. But it doesn't matter whether you're a New York guy or a Boston guy. You're. The smile on your face, it bothers me. It.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, no, no, I get it. Because you guys are one of those franchises, like, I don't know how much you fully appreciate it that you guys are like The San Francisco 49ers or the Golden State warriors or the Yankees. You are perpetually good. Like, you may not win the title every year, but you are always there. And so, yeah, seeing you guys down bad a little bit, especially knowing it's going to last for about eight seconds before you get one piece injected in that team. And Spoelstra has you winning another title. I'm enjoying it a tad.

[Chris Cody]

Anyway, last night, the Knicks do that. And yet, what I was watching over the weekend from Cleveland and Boston, I see that Boston gets six from Tatum and Brown. No Porzingis, no Drew holiday. They're up 25, three, and Tatum's walking off the court telling the Cavs F out of here. And then they lose the game because Cleveland's really good. And Cleveland all regular season has been better than the champions.

[Greg Cody]

Cleveland is. It's so crazy that Cleveland is this good. It's a fun conversation to have. When was there a. If they were to win the title, when was there a less sexy championship team than the 2025 Cleveland Cavaliers? Like, on paper, there is nothing to sell about this team. I mean, you could try to sell Donovan Mitchell. I don't know how much you're going to sell to the American people, but they are just that good. Like, that is a well coached, phenomenal basketball team. And even as a Celtics fan, I'm so curious to see what they bring in the playoffs. And frankly, not thrilled about the idea of a seven game series with the Cleveland Cavaliers.

[Roy Bellamy]

I feel like most people would tell you last year's Celtics were not that sexy.

[Greg Cody]

Oh, well, guess what? They. They would be lying because that Celtics team at least has two.

[Chris Cody]

You're a lia. Don't tell him what's sexy.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah, I know what sexy is. Excuse me. Look at me. No, you don't. I know. I listen. I think Tatum's a sexy player. Tatum and Brown are both sexy. Chris Staps has a little sex appeal.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, get out of here.

[Greg Cody]

Go three deep on Cleveland. Talk to me about sex appeal. Oh, Al Horford.

[Chris Cody]

Al Horford.

[Stugotz]

Dominicano.

[Chris Cody]

See?

[Roy Bellamy]

Okay, I'll give you Al Horford.

[Greg Cody]

By the way, you have a beautiful transition to the Oscars from Al Horford right to Zoe Zeldan yet sitting right there for you.

[Chris Cody]

Well, go ahead here. You're our Oscars expert here. Greg Cody's got a lot of opinions too, but you're coming in to talk some Oscars with us. What are you doing? What are you. What are you. What are you backing away from the microphone for?

[Greg Cody]

Well, listen, I don't know how I'm an Oscars expert. I have one particularly strong take about the Oscars because to me, the true theater that happened this weekend was John Cena turning heel in wwe. That, to me, was more theater than I got from the best. From the best picture winner. I listen, we have a lot of things that have us down bad as a nation. A lot of things have us down bad. Friday was a true, true low point. However, Anora was best Picture. Like, it was a nice movie. It was like, oh, where is this going? Okay. I love seeing random things about, like, Russian spots in Sheepshead Bay. Brooklyn. This is cool. Very Brooklyn. Fun movie. Strip clubs block. It's Best Picture did that. Ha. It happened while I Was sleeping. That actually happened, right?

[Stugotz]

Yeah. I guess it just may indicate that it's a down year for films like critically acclaimed films, your traditional Oscar winners. Last year was such a loaded category that maybe you could pluck three of those films that were nominated last year and say they could have very easily won this year.

[Greg Cody]

Well, yeah, because last year at least you have multiple movies. Oppenheimer, whether it's your cup of tea or not, you know, it's sort of Oscars ilk. Same with Killers of the Flower Moon, American fiction, like very sort of Oscar y movies. And I guess you're right. The category this year, when you see. Respectfully, when you see Dune Part two, you thinking, let's be honest, when you see part two in the best picture short of the Godfather, it's an odd thing to see, but. Yeah, I just. No part of me thought Honora was. Was winning best Picture. The performances were great. I just didn't think it was that great a film, though. I'm not exactly sure where you go with that category this year.

[Chris Cody]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Is part two ever Oscar worthy? Because he brings up a good point.

[Roy Bellamy]

Lord of the Rings, the Two Towers, Godfather too.

[Billy Gill]

Godfather.

[Chris Cody]

Well, he. But he just. He just. But he just mentioned something.

[Roy Bellamy]

Return of the King won best Picture.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, I stand corrected then. Fine, stop shouting at me.

[Stugotz]

I believe fallout was the seventh in the series six, because then there was part seven, part one.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, I got it.

[Billy Gill]

James Bond, 25. Good film.

[Chris Cody]

And that was the one that's not going to win. James Bond has not ever won any Oscars. I don't believe.

[Billy Gill]

I don't keep it that way.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, thank you. I don't understand what it is that you're.

[Stugotz]

What's your problem? I bet you it has for best original song. I bet you it's kind of dominated that category.

[Chris Cody]

I'm gonna.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm with you.

[Roy Bellamy]

There were like a lot of really good movies, but compared to like an Oppenheimer, which was, you know, outstanding acting, great editing, you know, hall of fame director and Christopher Nolan, they literally made a bomb and blew it up. Like there wasn't a film like that in the best picture category this year, but there were a lot of really good movies that I saw that I liked a lot. I would have. It wasn't going to ever win in that category, but I would have liked to have seen I'm Still Here potentially win that award. I thought Conclave was really good, but yeah, Nora was a solid movie. I think people that watch it Would like it, but it doesn't maybe totally hold up to a best Picture win, but, I mean, maybe it was the best one this year.

[Chris Cody]

I had trouble here. And this is a delayed penalty for Greg Cody.

[Greg Cody]

Minor penalty. Two minutes for adding nothing.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, you were not useful there, so please leave the room for two minutes.

[Billy Gill]

I got so much to say about the movies.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, but please go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Go say.

[Chris Cody]

All right, go say it elsewhere. But I will say that what Peter has brought up here, he's the voice of WWE's newest series, WWE Evolve. It starts March 3rd on Tubi. You were saying because you're here to promote that wrestling is having a real moment with the streaming services and being able to make content for a lot of different people that's evolving the sport on two fronts. What's this project you're involved with?

[Greg Cody]

So Evolve starts on. On Wednesday on Tubi, and basically, it's the new. It's the new show to expose people to new talent. So because smackdown and Raw are so big and now the third show, NXT, is a really big show with big stars on it as well. And because to your point, Dan, the product's doing so well, they started this new show on Tubi to expose new talent to the world, the future stars of the company. And yeah, I'm super stoked because just as like. Like every other kid who grew up being like, I want to be Gorilla Monsoon and just pretended to do play by play, I am very excited about my first play by play gig in any capacity that starts on Wednesday. And, Dan, I have to tell you, we both know a lot of people who do play by play. You know, I was with Michael K for nearly a decade. There's something about doing play by play that you're calling real action in the ring. But it's also a land of pretend that makes it a fascinating and difficult job that I did not imagine.

[Chris Cody]

It is not only difficult, it's also wondrous to hear you, a grown man, say, we all grew up wanting to be Gorilla Monsoon.

[Stugotz]

I know. I know I did. Dan. We've counted at least five Academy Awards that the 007 franchise has won. We correctly picked out that they dominated best original song. That's where at least three of these five came from. But Goldfinger won best sound effects and Thunderball won best visual effects. So it is a tried and true Academy Award winner franchise.

[Mike Ryan]

They have 19 nominations, six wins over there.

[Chris Cody]

Have they won any of the big awards?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I mean, the Academy Awards.

[Stugotz]

What are you talking about?

[Mike Ryan]

Best sound effects?

[Greg Cody]

They're all big.

[Roy Bellamy]

Thunderball. Sharks with lasers on their heads.

[Chris Cody]

Is it solid win? I hope it is. Thunderball is Thunderball at LeBatard Show. Sharks with lasers on their heads.

[Stugotz]

I don't like how Dan's just casually doing this interview. Peter even cracked the door open a little bit. There was a seismic decision made creatively by the wwe.

[Greg Cody]

Huge.

[Stugotz]

And it is one of the biggest heel turns in the history of the business, dating back to when Hulk Hogan was revealed to be Hollywood. Hulk Hogan, the third man in the nwo. That's how big this is. John Cena, for the first time since he became a champion, Babyface in the early 2000s, has turned heel during what is supposed to be his final run with the wwe. It is a where were you? Type of moment. The earth stood still. Peter, what is the point on this?

[Greg Cody]

Thank you. No, it was sitting there. It was one of the craziest things I've ever seen. It was the magic of. Of why people like us love this business so much. I mean, respectfully, I listen, I love competitive sports, but ultimately, in competitive sports, there can just be duds on the biggest stages. And this was a moment where, like, because WWE is what it is, you can creatively come up with the coolest thing ever. And somehow, as much as all of us have always sort of dreamed about the idea of heal John Cena, it just didn't feel on the table. And then to see the Rock give the throat slash and Cena turn on Cody. No. The earth stood still. My. My world ended for a moment. It was crazy.

[Chris Cody]

How old are you?

[Greg Cody]

I'm 45 years old, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, just making sure. Because Gorilla Monsoon is not someone we all grew up admiring. Although you and I are those people. I don't think anyone else here. Tony, tell me everything you know about Gorilla Monsoon.

[Stugotz]

Well, Dan, Gorilla Monsoon, of course, an incredible play by play guy for the Wrestling Federation figured it out. Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Sounds like it lives in the Sharknado film universe.

[Stugotz]

It sounds like a movie.

[Greg Cody]

That's great, by the way.

[Stugotz]

Gorilla Monsoon for sure, Dan. That's something up your alley. It's not a monsoon of gorillas.

[Chris Cody]

That's right. We're gonna go to Greg Cody in a second here. But another door that Peter cracked open. What happened Friday, like, where we're in bed with Russia.

[Greg Cody]

Bigger heel turn than Cena.

[Chris Cody]

That's what he cracked the do on. On. On what happened on Friday in America where we disgraced ourselves to the nation in the White House.

[Stugotz]

Honestly, that's just 24 hours before John Cena Turned heel. Like in terms of seismic events, I.

[Chris Cody]

Think we can get through not to not be an ally to a nation under siege to do that press conference.

[Stugotz]

And with that knowledge, John Cena, still in Canada, north of the border, turned on the American nightmare, Cody Rhodes.

[Greg Cody]

But by the way, you have to be clear, Dan, we didn't just Ukraine, cuz I mean, come on, what Americans care about Ukraine? They don't go visit Kyiv for the holidays. We also ostensibly turned heel on all of Western Europe, all of the places that you do like to visit, all the places that everybody likes to go hang. We basically held up a middle finger to all of them.

[Stugotz]

We also turned our backs to C nation and hundreds, thousands of make a wish kids that have had their wish fulfilled by John Cena. And you gotta.

[Greg Cody]

So you're going, you're going Cena over? Yes, over the American heel turn on Ukraine. You think Cena was even bigger again?

[Stugotz]

I think that we can dig ourselves out of what happened on Friday. There's no coming back for John Cena. Do you think he turns heel on? Make a wish like I'm too busy.

[Greg Cody]

All of a sudden, I'm too busy.

[Stugotz]

Those are the kids. Come on, do this. The too busy future.

[Chris Cody]

Before we go to Greg Cody, can you see in your corner your former partner of 10 years, Michael K. Did you know he could dance like that? Were you aware that Michael K. Was such a good dancer, by the way?

[Greg Cody]

Never in my life had I seen those moves from him. And to know that that is in fact authentically him, regardless of what he says to me, it's. It's a miracle. And I'm upset. You know, Dan, I got married two years ago. He was there. I didn't see one of Peter.

[Chris Cody]

We confirmed that this is him. He's denying it to everybody. But Michael K. Is a known liar on this front. He's always wanted to dance like this and only in the privacy of an elevator. You and I have confirmed that this is indeed Michael K. Confirmed.

[Greg Cody]

Awful. Announcing printed. That is Michael K. Thank you.

[Chris Cody]

He's been trying to disguise it for a long time. Let's go out to Greg Cody and get all his Oscar takes. What are you laughing about? Cody?

[Billy Gill]

That's gotta be AI right. That cannot be.

[Chris Cody]

No, it's Michael K. We've confirmed it.

[Billy Gill]

Okay, I have a question for Peter. If he hasn't gone yet, I'm here. The jukebox in the back, is that a working jukebox? And if it is, I wonder if you have queued up Shirley Bassey's. Gold finger.

[Greg Cody]

You know, would work well. That is a 1961 fully operational 1961 Rockola Regis. And that actually would work well, but no, it is not there, unfortunately.

[Billy Gill]

Very disappointing.

[Stugotz]

Where do, Peter, where do we go from here?

[Greg Cody]

With C Nation.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Does he. Does he wear different tights? He can't come out there with a Jordan. Does he go black? Jord says he wears black Jordans.

[Greg Cody]

I think black Jors would be the place to go. I'd love to see him in a suit, but my guess is he'll somehow just still wear the same stuff because he has like 35 dates. And I feel like the T shirts are printed for every city. John Cena has to go to new. You're gonna hold. Do a whole new thing now. I don't know if you can.

[Stugotz]

You gotta heal the shirts up, too. Instead of never give up, it's just gonna be give up.

[Greg Cody]

I would love that. No, turn, turn heel. You know, be a turncoat. I would love to see that.

[Stugotz]

You should absolutely do something like, well, you can see me now. You never were actually able to see me before.

[Greg Cody]

No, you didn't want to see me. Now you can find. Now you have to see me.

[Stugotz]

Whoa, Peter, let's write this stuff. Good shit, bro.

[Mike Ryan]

Peter, I have a question that might sound insulting, but I don't mean it to be. Do you consider yourself a journalist?

[Greg Cody]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, then nevermind.

[Greg Cody]

Would you want to know. I want to know what the follow up was going to be, Billy. I want to know what the follow up was.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, well, so Dan is. Dan is having a moral conundrum here because he was invited by the Panthers to bang the drum before the Panthers game today. But he thinks that his journalistic integrity is going to get in the way of him participating in banging the drum to say, let's go Panthers. So we're trying to help him through this conundrum as the show goes on today.

[Chris Cody]

Dan.

[Greg Cody]

Dan should not do it. Dan should not do it. If Dan was a yo yo like myself or Don Lagreca, we go do it. Actually, I wouldn't even put Don in that category. I would do it because I'm a yo yo. Just give me free tickets and I'm there. Dan has made a career of being higher brow. He can't bang a drum at a Panther game, for God's sake. It's beneath him.

[Stugotz]

No, it isn't. Jack Nicklaus did it. Dan Marino did it. The very top of the journalism profession.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, yeah.

[Greg Cody]

They're not journalists. This is the most reasonable mind in all of sports broadcast.

[Stugotz]

I guarantee you Udonis has probably written something more recently than Dan. I'm gonna find a Players Tribune article to back this up.

[Chris Cody]

I'm torn. I don't know what I'm gonna do. Let's go to Greg Cody. Peter, thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it. I should tell the people that it's not just cuz he's got a lot of shows. It's not just Tubi and the voice of the WWE's newest series WWE Evolve. He's also on Don Hahn and Rosenberg weekdays from 3 to 7pm on Radio New York and he's co host in the morning. This is insane. What are you doing weekdays from 5 to 10 on and I have a.

[Greg Cody]

6 week old by the way. And I was a minute.

[Chris Cody]

How many hours a day are you on the air?

[Greg Cody]

It's too. I'm trying to get out. I'm trying to. I'm trying to get out. Listen, you're doing 10 hours a day.

[Stugotz]

You're doing the opposite of getting out. Guys, guys, he's doing the right thing. Trust me. As. As the father of an eight week old. He's doing the right thing. Get out there, go make your money. Go do your thing. PR hold on.

[Mike Ryan]

When you say you're trying to get out, do you mean get out of the house?

[Greg Cody]

Absolute. I didn't. One of these things has to go. It just hasn't happened yet. It's going to happen.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you Peter. I appreciate it.

[Greg Cody]

Thank you guys.

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[Mike Ryan]

We're gonna get that off the ground.

[Stugotz]

World War three colon. Our group chat has a Pretty good feeling about this one.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Chris Cody]

I am getting non stop te from David Sampson here, infuriated that Peter Rosenberg was our Oscars expert today and not him and Adnan.

[Stugotz]

He called Conan Conan. Like, what's the deal with that? And where am I going to go with Samson as it pertains to C Nation, a nation left in tatters.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, Greg Cody. I am torn because it's not just I got him. It's not just that Greg Cody and Peter Rosenberg are asking me to uphold some long ago tattered journalism standard. It's that the rest of you, the younger people, disagree vehemently that that's a thing that should be protected.

[Stugotz]

You're not an active journalist anymore. I've actually gone through it. Jack Nicklaus, Yudanis Azam, and Raheem Moshert have all written more recently than you have.

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, it's not the same as journalism, though. But I think it's less that there should be a wall up between journalists and banging the drum. It's more so that if there were a wallop, you'd be on the drum side these days.

[Chris Cody]

So what do I do? Because I'd rather be on the other side. I don't actually want to do this. And it's not even.

[Stugotz]

Why not? It's a great honor.

[Chris Cody]

Now I will tell you why saying.

[Stugotz]

It'S not a great honor. They don't. They don't just do this willy nilly. They're all people. Like Olympic gold medalists. They're all people have repeated. Mostert, he led the league in. In rushing touchdowns one year. Like everybody has something impressive on their resume that has done that relationship building.

[Chris Cody]

Dan, he had 18. I don't need that far away laughter from Cody. All right, look, Most dirt had 18 touchdowns in a season, deserved to bang the draft. The reason that I'm questioning the honor that it is is because I think my resume is the text that I got, which is, hey, when we introduce you, how do we do so by nationality? And so I'm being honored here, I believe, simply for being Cuban American on Vamos Gatos night. When I say the punctuation on Vamos Gatos is incorrect, it feels like pandering. Vamos Gatos is something that we're more likely to say in the house as Hispanic people to get the cats out of the house, not into our embrace. Vamos Gatos. I'm being used as a symbol, not merely the cheerleading part of it. It's, hey, go out There and be Hispanic.

[Stugotz]

I think vamos gatos is let's go cats.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

So I think that's the only thing that isn't actually grammatically correct is a lack of comma.

[Chris Cody]

There's no comma there. But vamos gatos, let's go cats is yes, literally translated. But if any of us were to say it in the house, it would largely be to get the cats out of the house.

[Mike Ryan]

If vamos gatos, like, vetting, got those, like, get out of here cats, that.

[Chris Cody]

Would be better as well. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

I think you should look at it as even a bigger honor, because out of all the Hispanic leaders in this community that have the reputation that would recommend they take part in this great honor. You're a topic. Yeah. Why'd they pick you?

[Mike Ryan]

They could pick anyone to pander. They picked you to pander.

[Greg Cody]

Normally.

[Mike Ryan]

This is an Emilio Stefan lane.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, well, we don't know who said no. In fact, I'm gonna text Ron. Ron probably said no. Ron McGill definitely said no.

[Chris Cody]

Well, he definitely said no to coming to this because my wife invited his wife to come to it, and they're basically busy, so he. He.

[Stugotz]

Oh, classic.

[Chris Cody]

All right, look, Greg. What's going on, Greg?

[Billy Gill]

I'm enjoying the show. Somebody says something funny, I laugh.

[Chris Cody]

All right, but what are you laughing at? Specifically, because you're my greatest critic here.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. Well, you are doing journalism right now to put a microscope on the validity of the actual phrase vamos gatos. So that's journalism. I think before you bang the drum, you should give a little tutorial to the 15,000 fans gathered there getting ready to cheer. Let's go Panthers. Because you need to instruct them. You need to be informative. You need to bring out all of your Hispanic knowledge of the language and learn. People, you know, they don't want to learn. They don't want to earn. You got to teach.

[Stugotz]

He's right about that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. So do you chant also, or you just hit the drum?

[Chris Cody]

I don't want to do any of it, guys.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, no, it's Hispanic heritage, so you would. I guess. You don't say, let's go Panthers. Now you say, vamos Godzos.

[Billy Gill]

That's Greg Cody.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, I know what you should do. You should bring your dad as, like, a sort of meat shield. He's more famous anyways.

[Stugotz]

Don't do that.

[Mike Ryan]

Why did they ask?

[Stugotz]

Don't do that. You've done that move way too much. Yeah, don't do that. That's why you gotta take this one on the chin. It's a winning move, but you gotta.

[Mike Ryan]

Take this one chance.

[Greg Cody]

It's a winning move.

[Mike Ryan]

It's about relationship building after it used to be.

[Stugotz]

He's no longer a television personality, you're no longer a journalist.

[Mike Ryan]

Jeez.

[Billy Gill]

Wow. Harsh.

[Stugotz]

Still a voter, though.

[Chris Cody]

I think I still am a journalist right up until I bang the Dr.

[Stugotz]

I think you definitely discredited yourself long before that.

[Mike Ryan]

I think when you attacked Rob Manfred, it was kind of writing pretty much there.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Even back then it was, like, awfully convenient.

[Greg Cody]

All right.

[Stugotz]

Quarterly.

[Chris Cody]

I'm scared of this for a number of different reasons. Here's one of them. The last try. The last time I tried to get a chant off the ground at the Food and Wine Festival, it went like this. Coca Cola. Can I get a Coca Cola?

[Billy Gill]

Coca Cola, Yeah.

[Stugotz]

This is why you should be saying no to it. There is no doubt in my mind whatever is asked of you, and I think it's very little. You're going to be very bad at it.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know.

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

You're awkward, clumsy. It's going to be terrible.

[Chris Cody]

Well, this is why I don't want to do it. I know this, too. I. I want to shroud it in journalistic integrity of some sort. That feels better. But I'm scared of the whole thing. Thing?

[Stugotz]

You're going to be awkward. You're going to be offbeat. It's just going to be a bad look for you.

[Chris Cody]

I do enthusiasm poorly. I. Public and public performance.

[Stugotz]

Public enthusiasm.

[Chris Cody]

Jessica, why are you cringing face? I do public performative enthusiasm.

[Roy Bellamy]

Have you practiced? It's repressor.

[Stugotz]

Also like that. Far north. Are you aware of what they think of us? Like, you're not going to get cheered, pal.

[Chris Cody]

I know. That's. This is why it's easier to avoid it. It's easier to.

[Stugotz]

But you're not trying to avoid it. You're trying to put it down like you're too cool for school, like it's not some great honor, which it is. In fact, if you do a great job, they might invite you back because everyone's gonna be like, remember all that juice Levator had?

[Greg Cody]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

You have exposed me before all. I am vulnerable. I am splayed open before everybody. I don't want to do this because I'm afraid of it. I don't want to do this because it's wrong. Only reason I want to do it is because Mike Roy and Chris Cody say I should and that I must say that it's a great honor.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, absolutely. Defending Stanley cup champions.

[Roy Bellamy]

I want him to do it. Because then you. There's like a zero percent chance if he doesn't do it, you get to do it. And maybe like a 1% chance if he gets to do it that one day you'll get to do it.

[Stugotz]

I am not worthy though. I am more of a journalist than Dan.

[Chris Cody]

Billy. Billy.

[Mike Ryan]

Jalen Ramsey did it. He's not a journalist.

[Chris Cody]

Billy. What do you vote here? Like if we. Is anyone coming with me if I.

[Stugotz]

Decide to do this in the helicopter? Absolutely not. And pass by. Kendall, BTW's a little offended the McGills were asked. I'm going to be there regardless, being a journalist.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy, would you do it if you were asked?

[Stugotz]

Of course I would.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, hold on a second. Roy's an active journalist.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wait, but Roy, you were just saying last week how you would never wear Panthers stuff to a Panthers game. So are you going to do it in like a button down shirt? Because that's too far of a line to cross. But you'll bang the drum.

[Stugotz]

Exactly. You'll be wearing what I'm wearing right now. Well, no. You got a personalized jersey.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Dan, you should do it. Just for that, you get a free jersey out of it.

[Chris Cody]

I don't want a free jersey.

[Mike Ryan]

Why not?

[Stugotz]

You're going to have to.

[Greg Cody]

It's comfortable.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, it'll be a number one jersey with LeBatard on the back. What?

[Stugotz]

Number five?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Did they ask you your number?

[Stugotz]

Big jersey.

[Mike Ryan]

Jalen Ramsey was number five.

[Chris Cody]

I'm really torn on this. I don't, I don't. Well, you say I should be. You don't think I should be? You think this is an easy call?

[Billy Gill]

Well, it. Look, okay, first of all, the Panthers are too polite to have told you this, but you're auditioning, okay? If you blow it, then you'll never be heard from again in that arena. Arena. If you're pretty good, they might invite you back for the playoffs. If you bang the drum in the playoffs, then you've arrived. But it's, it's an all lose situation for you. You know, everything could go wrong. You could be offbeat on the drum, you know, instead of chanting, let's go Panthers, they're going to chant Coca Cola. The whole thing. Could be. Could be. End up being a nightmare.

[Stugotz]

How is he so much better in the other room?

[Chris Cody]

Vamos gatos. You think they're gonna ask me to chant? Get the stadium to start chanting that. Vamos got.

[Stugotz]

Well, the drum does it like they. They do.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you not know what you're doing with the drum.

[Chris Cody]

I have a vague, faint idea. I also don't know the tradition of the drum. I don't know any of the history of the drum.

[Mike Ryan]

Billy, please.

[Chris Cody]

Billy.

[Mike Ryan]

Mark.

[Chris Cody]

Mark. Tell me all about it.

[Stugotz]

Mark.

[Mike Ryan]

So they say, let's go, Panthers, and then you do the. The clap, clap, clap, clap, clap. So it's the four. Doom, doom, doom, doom, doom. Do you know the. Do you not know the beat that you're supposed to be drumming to?

[Chris Cody]

I have seen Mike McDaniel do it poorly. I've seen Jack Nicklaus do it.

[Stugotz]

Mike McDaniel did not do it poorly. If you think Mike McDaniel did it poorly, then you should say no, because I'm going to be bad at this. And that's the only reason.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, my God. I might have to actually watch the Panthers game tonight.

[Chris Cody]

Dan Marino did it poorly. I'm sorry. It wasn't Mike McDaniel. Mike McDaniel did it very well because he reared back and really sold it.

[Stugotz]

You got to eat it up. This is an incredible moment. Again, they don't do this before every game. They only do this when they have a celebrity big enough and a game that's big enough that you have to have a super famous celebrity to come up there and meet that moment and get the people crazy.

[Chris Cody]

Tony, your opinion and Billy's opinion and Jessica, I'm not sure. I mean, I feel like you've said I should not do this. You're alone in that room and saying that I should not do this.

[Roy Bellamy]

I think that you should just do it because your job falls more in line with entertainment than journalism these days.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Heel turn, Dan Levitard.

[Chris Cody]

Wow. End of career, heel turn.

[Billy Gill]

Yep.

[Stugotz]

You should do this because the doubts that we have in this is not journalism ethics. No, no, no. I just don't think you're. You're socially adept.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. You're bringing the wrong energy like you.

[Stugotz]

Got at your age. You need to prove the doubters wrong. You need to be able to hit the drum on a particular cadence and get an arena full of people saying, let's go, Panthers. If you're not able to claim clear this very low bar, then we all need to take a look at ourselves.

[Billy Gill]

Has to be just right, the timing. You can't be an iota off. Has to be perfect, or else an arena full of people gonna hoot and howl at your expense. If it's not perfect, I am going.

[Stugotz]

To decide what to do with the rest of my career based on your ability, or lack thereof, to nail the cadence of a let's go. Panthers. Drum beat.

[Mike Ryan]

No pressure, Dan.

[Chris Cody]

But this is. Look, I'm. I've told you, I don't know how often this has happened before in our past. I am speaking mad most honestly to you right now. I don't want to do this. And the reason I don't want to do it is because I am simply splayed out in front of you. 100% afraid of it.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Stop saying splayed. It's gross. I don't know why.

[Mike Ryan]

It's an HR thing.

[Stugotz]

Also, you're going to do, like, the drum part of in the Air tonight. I just know it. You're going to screw this all up.

[Mike Ryan]

Why did you just say no? Just tell him no then it's too late.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's trying to think of a good excuse to tell them no now, but it's too late. You've already said you're going to do it.

[Billy Gill]

I've committed.

[Chris Cody]

I have not. No, that's not in any way true. I don't know. I'm going to do it.

[Stugotz]

Okay, well, I brought it very rude to our exact Florida Panthers.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. If they're watching this, you're going to get a call shortly saying, hey, guess what, friend, you're not doing.

[Chris Cody]

Look. No, wait a minute. You guys misunderstood. No, you guys misunderstood what I brought in here. No, absolutely. You've got this wrong. Wrong. I have not decided what I'm doing here.

[Stugotz]

That's. That's awful.

[Chris Cody]

Last night.

[Stugotz]

That's really terrible.

[Chris Cody]

Last night. Roy, Chris. Roy and Chris and Mike. I don't. I think you abstained. But Roy and Chris were adamant that this is something I must do. And I'm like, I must do it. Why must I do this?

[Stugotz]

I don't think that they really analyze how much this can affect their careers negatively. If you go out there and I realized it and.

[Chris Cody]

And I'm telling you that I'm filing it under a bunch of other stuff, but I'm afraid of it as well. Like, we could talk about journalism. I'd love my. I'd love to put myself in the cloak of journalism, splayed out or not, and say, I'm not doing this because I'm a journalist. I cannot do that. I am afraid of blowing this moment because I do not have the rhythm, the confidence, or the enthusiasm for it that you need to have. That Roy would have if he was given this opportunity.

[Stugotz]

Oh, that drum would have no shot.

[Greg Cody]

Against Roy or the drum.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, Roy should be doing it.

[Stugotz]

Hey, it's the lightning in town and he Breaks that damn drawer.

[Mike Ryan]

Lightning the bolts. Dan, come on, man.

[Chris Cody]

I have envisioned a scenario where I hit it so hard the first time that it flies out of my hand because I have not practiced.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, my God. And then it hits a player and then the game gets postponed.

[Stugotz]

Or the veteran. Oh, it's a World War II veteran.

[Billy Gill]

Oh, no, the 100 year old guy. They wheel out every game.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, Dan, that's a thing. I don't know if you know this a Panthers game. They, they do bring out like a vet. And you have to, to like, you know, stand, tip your cat to the vet claws.

[Billy Gill]

The older the better.

[Mike Ryan]

Do that. Are you going to do that?

[Stugotz]

Just so you know, it's when they play, we could be heroes.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. And if they're cheering, if people are standing and cheering, you didn't hear why it's probably a vet, not you.

[Stugotz]

And you got to say red. You don't say knight anymore because we traded him.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, yeah.

[Stugotz]

Oh, man.

[Mike Ryan]

That's going to be the first game.

[Stugotz]

That's going to be the first. Oh, can we say night to honor him?

[Mike Ryan]

Be on your best.

[Stugotz]

Did you know we traded for Seth Jones?

[Chris Cody]

Big trade. We did.

[Stugotz]

Popeye Jones's son is now a Florida Panther.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Stugotz]

How about that, Greg? Did you know that Popeye Jones's kid is a Florida Panther?

[Billy Gill]

That's exciting.

[Stugotz]

Well, you know, you know, Puck, Dan's.

[Billy Gill]

Going, who's Seth Jones?

[Chris Cody]

No. Talk to his dad 55 minutes about it. I am a hockey expert. Watch me bang that drum.

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

All right.

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