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Dan LeBatard
Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings.
Stugotz
Why are you listening to this show.
Dan LeBatard
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
Stugotz
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables there, grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Dan LeBatard
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat face and the habitual Liar.
DraftKings Advertiser
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Stugotz
Can you guys please play the video of the late Pete Rose when he was on with us recently talking about. I really, I couldn't help but sort of laugh darkly at the idea that baseball would put him in the hall of Fame or consider it after his death for the first time when and he was only living to feel whatever it is that it felt like to be the fountain of youth of a Hall of Fame. But let's listen to Pete Rose saying he didn't want the award after he.
Mike Ryan
Was dead in the future, several decades from now, let's say Major League Baseball then makes the decision after Pete Rose is long gone to enshrine him in the Major League Baseball hall of Fame. How would you feel about that?
Pete Rose
Well, that would. To be honest with you, I wouldn't want to go in the hall of Fame because I think the hall of Fame, okay? And don't get me wrong, I'm the Hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the player and it's two.
Stugotz
Three.
Pete Rose
Excuse me, three. Things his family, okay, his fans and, and his teammates and everything. It was everybody who was associated more than three. It don't help me when I'm six feet under. How the hell is that going to help anybody? I mean, I can, I, I still go out today. I'll go out and try to sell the game of baseball. And I'm not even in the game of baseball, but you guys will agree my name is synonymous with the game of baseball. I have all the records, you know, and that's all baseball is, the statistics. It's all about statistics. All you guys on TV talk about how many home runs you got, how many RBIs you got, how many runs you got, right? How many Gold Gloves he wins, how many MVP you win, you know, how many World Series you play in. Those are all questions that I can answer with no hesitation at all.
Hank Azaria
Makes me angry, man. I was already annoyed because I think it's, I think it's cruel to allow him, remember, he's not in the hall of Fame now and he probably won't still get voted in, but he's allowed to be voted in now. And I think it's cruel that not only are we going to ban you for life, but guess what, we're going to allow you in when you're dead. And now hearing him say pretty much, you know, the way that I was looking at it anyway, I think it's cruel and, and I think it's really weak that Rob Manfred, this, this great thing that he just did yesterday. No, it wasn't.
Dan LeBatard
No, it wasn't.
Hank Azaria
The hard thing to do would have been reinstating him while he's still alive.
Stugotz
Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Was that a garage sale cap Pete Rose was wearing? It's exactly the kind of cap I would associate with like an 85 year old who has stopped killing.
DraftKings Advertiser
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Mike Ryan
The Gucci cap. Now he did a lot of signings in Vegas, maybe pulled one off one of the sidewalk tables. But that is supposed to appear like a Gucci hat.
Stugotz
I thought it was, what do they call fake Gucci's like Gucci. I thought that was fake and bought at a garage sale. Do I have it wrong? Because it didn't look like it was kept well.
Jonathan Zaslow
I think he maybe hit a parlay. Man. It is Pete Rose.
Mike Ryan
We're alleging. The hit kings just gotta get a fake Gucci. Come on, come on, man.
Stugotz
Rose's own family pushed for this. And I have seen when you start talking baseball all of a sudden, look who pops up and I imagine, see Azaria's got a hotline here that he shows up whenever it is that he wants to and everyone gets out of the way. If you haven't seen Pablo, Torre finds out. He did an extraordinary episode with Hank Azaria where Hank went deeper on some of the things that he has been through and learned. And on top of that, he's now singing as Bruce Springsteen late in life. This is his quest. Hank, good to see you. Thank you for being on with us. Are you appearing because of the Knicks or are you appearing because Brockmire wanted a hack at Pete Rose?
Dan LeBatard
Appearing because I genuinely missed you, Dan. It's been a very, very long time and all of the people in there. I'm not sure whether to start as Brock Meyer or as Bruce Springsteen or as myself. I have no idea which way to go here.
Stugotz
You've crushed the Springsteen. You've gotten so good at Springsteen, Hank. I don't even know how or why this is. You're performing as Springsteen and it seems from the videos I've seen that you're having more fun performing than I've ever seen.
Dan LeBatard
It's a little weird. It's not like turning 60 drove me to some kind of weird post midlife crisis where I felt the need to start up a Springsteen tribute band or nothing like that. With a bunch of children, by the way. Yeah, it's insane how it. I've gotten totally obsessed, you know, I'm a mimic. I've gotten completely obsessed with talking and singing like Bruce. And it has cheered me up a lot. Having turned 60, now 61, and I raised a lot of money for charity doing it, and I really, really enjoy it. So that's what that is.
Hank Azaria
Hank, is in order to come up with the. Like, it's harder to come up with the impression of Springsteen or to learn all the songs.
Dan LeBatard
Well, first of all, I gotta say that Stugats, you've gotten kind of bloated. That's weird.
Mike Ryan
I mean, you haven't seen Scots in a while, but to be fair, many in our audience haven't.
Dan LeBatard
What's going on? Have you guys fired? Lots going on.
Mike Ryan
No, he's Newark.
Stugotz
He just cerned. He just signed a long term deal.
Dan LeBatard
All right. I just was worried, I don't know. All of a sudden he just.
Stugotz
He just can't be controlled.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, I understand that. I could have told you that a long time ago. Saved you a lot of time. Well, hi, Stugats. Who's the new guy? Sorry I haven't been. I'VE been real. I've been lost in my Springsteen world.
Mike Ryan
Barrett Sports Media, that's Jonathan Zaslow.
Stugotz
According to Barrett sports Media, that is Jonathan Zaslow.
Dan LeBatard
That's confirmed. Okay. All right.
Stugotz
Confirming, confirming.
Jonathan Zaslow
The rule is you got to replace someone with the same first name as the other person sat in that seat. So it was Jonathan Weiner. Now we got Jonathan Zaslow.
Dan LeBatard
Hank, I. I see. Nice jersey. Yes.
Jonathan Zaslow
Thank you.
Stugotz
You are feeling better about your Knicks than you have at any point in 25 years, correct?
Dan LeBatard
100%. It's been insane here in New York. Even when they win, it's like you feel like they lose. Even when they win, it's like this heart attack. Except for that last game. Except that came along with actually felt bad. Jason Tatum at the end of that game. I mean, I'll take it. I would have been happier if he wasn't injured, but because we were going to win that game anyway, but.
Stugotz
Oh, that's a good question on human nature, though. If I go through that arena and I ask everybody, how do you really feel about this? You're like, you feel bad, but if you could choose it. You feel bad, but if you could have chose for that to happen, you would have chosen for that to happen, you mean?
Dan LeBatard
I don't know. That's the majority.
Stugotz
The majority of people. If I go, I'm with you. In New York, all fans care about is winning.
DraftKings Advertiser
Hank played it perfectly. You say the sentence of felt bad.
Stugotz
But he was lying. Nobody was lying. Yes, he played it perfectly, but it's not. It felt bad about that. Well, did you. Like when he went down, were you hoping it was an ankle and he was going to play the fourth, like, play in the next game?
Dan LeBatard
No. You know, by the way he was writhing around, I was sure it was one of those landed on an ankle things. Right. And then when they showed the replay finally, and you see it contact. No, I can. I can tell you honestly, when I saw the non contact nature of that, I felt really bad. I was like, oh, no. You just never like to see that as a basketball fan. Just go, oh, that's awful. You know, that's awful.
Jonathan Zaslow
I think the.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, go ahead. I'm sorry. No.
Stugotz
Everyone's pointing out that you were purposely trying to show that you were jacked there with your biceps. You were. You were insecure because you said you were 61, and then you just gave off the guns and everybody was looking at.
Dan LeBatard
I don't know what you mean. What are you talking about? I just want standing here.
Jonathan Zaslow
What do you Want from me? Are you off a scuba?
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Mike Ryan
So looks like 60 also triggered something else, pal.
Dan LeBatard
Have you realized that you. You feel more for men than you thought you did? This is natural. Most many men have different feelings. There's nothing to be ashamed of.
Stugotz
Is that I. It's your. It's my favorite character of yours. Of all of them. Claude.
Dan LeBatard
Claude from alum. Kimpoli.
Stugotz
My favorite of all of them is.
Dan LeBatard
That guy, the French guy.
Stugotz
You don't have a favorite, do you?
Dan LeBatard
Do I have a favorite?
Stugotz
Yes. That the character you played there? Yeah. It's just my favorite of all your characters and you've played thousands.
Dan LeBatard
Maybe this is because you have feelings about men. You are not totally. I'm not totally processed. Could be. Is possible.
Hank Azaria
I like him as the other guy in Heat. Got a great ass.
Dan LeBatard
You like? Yeah. You like that? That Al Pacino yelled that into my head as to why I love doing Brockmire. And that's a good segue back into the Pete Rose thing.
Stugotz
What is your opinion of this? It's weird. And I should say, because Lord knows I would encourage you to check out the Pablo Torre finds out episode where Hank goes through, like, how things change in public perception and how we react to behavior in 2025 differently than we did 25 years ago. I should point out that Pete Rose is almost fundamentally immoral. He has an accusation, some accusations of sex crimes around him that if you want to make it not a museum and moralize about it, then I would understand how it is that you would keep him out of the hall of Fame. But if.
Mike Ryan
Man, what a terrible comedy setup this is.
Dan LeBatard
This.
Mike Ryan
I'm sorry, Hank.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, I was rethinking. Maybe I don't answer as Brockmire because Brockmire on the topic of sexual harassment is not.
Chewy Advertiser
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Mike Ryan
Shoeless Joe Jackson was the other one that was reinstated, by the way.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, that took a while.
Mike Ryan
For the record, I'm a Blue Rajah guy.
DraftKings Advertiser
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Dan LeBatard
Now Blue Raja's take on all this would be fascinating. Look at all those forks. Go fork yourself, my friend.
Mike Ryan
He didn't wear blue.
Stugotz
That movie was good. I will not hear.
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Stugotz
I will not hear that. That was not good. I got. This is. I'm sorry. I got. I got furious. MAN ON text because Ben Stiller was supposed to join Hank Azaria here today to talk about Nick fandom and stuff, but. But he was very busy. But he did send along a quote that he wanted me to read that I'll get to in a second. But Hank, how do you feel about Jalen Brunson? Is he the most beloved Nick ever already?
Dan LeBatard
Not yet. He has not surpassed Clyde yet. He's making a run at it. He's got to win a ring first to achieve that, in my opinion. And you know, Clyde, come on, Clyde. You know, it's. I mean, there's a guy who you. Deuce McBride is that dude who is that? Who number is that Deuce McBride who was the original number two?
Jonathan Zaslow
How dare you.
Stugotz
Larry Johnson.
Jonathan Zaslow
This is an authentic, sir, from 1999. Zazzle. This is. This is a vintage.
Dan LeBatard
Is that your favorite, Nick?
Jonathan Zaslow
Ah, I got. I got a bunch. I got a bunch of jerseys at home. This was the one I wore today.
Dan LeBatard
All right, well, I'm glad to hear that. And yeah, I mean, to me, Clyde, it's. Passing Clyde would be hard, but he might do it. I mean, it's a good problem to have trying to pick between Jalen. Clyde is your favorite all time.
Stugotz
Has New York been bad long enough that people no longer hate the celebrities courtside and actually are rooting for an underdog? Because it used to be whatever was courtside at Knicks games in Miami was something that was hated. Is that still the case?
Dan LeBatard
Who hates them? I mean, I'm sure everybody outside New York hates them. But you mean like in New York or.
Stugotz
What I'm saying is in. In the turn of the story. Story on the Knicks where they are an underdog and they are gritty. And Ben Stiller's quote is, jalen Brunson vibes with this city in a way no player has for a long time. He is him. He is the man. He is our captain. The Knicks have been a laughingstock for 25 years. You are old and so you remember when they were good, but a generation and doesn't like they.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah.
Stugotz
And so this is the best team New York has had in a sport it cares about vibrantly in the center of the city. I don't know that New York has a greater allegiance than it does to this loser.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, yeah, the Knicks. When the Knicks are. The Knicks are the main focus of New York. I think they're the most beloved team. And it was especially heartbreak. I mean, look at. Through all those 25 years, the garden was never not at capacity for every single game. I mean, like, need I say more? I mean, it was always insane in there, no matter how the team did. And yeah, it's been fascinating.
Stugotz
I.
Dan LeBatard
As you know, I'm sort of obsessed with team ownership and how that Affects everything. And I don't think. Can you recall Dan, an owner sort of. I know that sometimes, you know, teams get sold. Like the Mets are a good example. Right. The Wilpons got out, Steve Cohen came in and it's changed things over there. And we've seen that happen in a bunch of places. I can't recall an owner really just kind of reversing his policies and going, let me hire guys who know what they're doing, doing and let him be. And it's worked. It's. Can you recall any other example of that?
Stugotz
I'm trying to think of people. Bridges, they didn't initially know what they were doing, but they ended up knowing what they were doing so well that people are surprised by a team. They're surprised that Brunson is this. They're surprised that Bridges is doing what he is in these games. Even though Bridges was given, they gave five first round picks up for Bridges because he plays all the minutes and that's what the perimeter defense is going to look like. And so it was built to beat this team and now it's beating it. No, I have not seen that kind of competence. Like, I can't readily think of an example. The Crew's looking for something of, of this kind of competence, surprising all of us because not only did they get it right, they were all being questioned about it. They broke up a popular team. Like, I, I don't know if you feel like Hartenstein leaving is. Is breaking up the team, but, but bringing in Bridges over that was not popular. Like they, they were playing for now when none of us thought they should be playing for now that they were a long distance from the Celtics.
Dan LeBatard
No, well, wait. Many points there. They tried to hang on to Hartenstein. They just, they literally couldn't. He got 18 million more or something going. Okay, so like they just couldn't match it then. The guy don't think he wanted to leave, but he couldn't turn down that money. And you know, Leon Rose has made a series of incredible decisions. I mean, he might have gotten a little lucky with Jalen. I mean, remember when Jalen first got here, we thought we overpaid for him, but he's good. He's not worth it and he's turned into this superstar. Nobody saw that coming. And Leon Rose and World Wide west have just made a bunch of decisions that have been great. But the fact that they were allowed to even make them is astonishing because that just wasn't the case a bunch of years ago here in New York.
Hank Azaria
Hank, you're obviously a huge Knicks fan. When you see some of the celebrities that are sitting in the front row, they're sitting courtside of the Garden. Do you ever say to yourself, man, I care so much more than that guy does?
Dan LeBatard
Oh, all the time. Look, I think there was an article in the Post today that finally broke down what goes into being allowed sitting at courtside. And it's what you'd imagine. You do have to really be a Nick fan. They kind of draw the line there. Unless you're dating either someone who's genuinely a Nick fan or. Or is such a huge star that there's no way they're going to keep them out of the. The front row there. But, yeah, you know, but it's literally. It's like, it's kind of daunting. You know, people applaud. It's like a popularity contest. You know, people either really are into you or they're not. Once you go on the jumbotron, Ben and I talk about this all the time. We, like, dread the moment. We're going up on the screaming like, oh, God, I hope I get a decent response. Otherwise you're not going to have me back next time, you know? But I'm just. I like what I like. I'm such a big fan that they're kind of happy to let you sit 10, 15 rows up. They have a nice little suite for folks sort of out of. And I kind of prefer that because it's a great view of the game and there's less pressure on you as a celebrity up there.
Jonathan Zaslow
Hank, is it wrong for me to say I look at Ben Stiller now differently? I kind of lost respect for him because he just seems to be such a regular ass Nick fan. He's like all the people I grew up with. And I'm like, I wanted something more. I wanted a mysterious mystique around him. I want him to be cool. Courtside. I said, he's jumping up with like the, the hype team in the, in the, in the tunnel. And so I'm like, what are you doing, man? I can't. I just don't have the same kind of pedestal for bed still that I once had.
Dan LeBatard
What, you want him to go all Jack Nicholson on you and sit there with his sunglasses on, not giving a. I mean, what's the guy supposed to do? God damn it. Yeah. I mean, look, you've been to the Garden, I assume, many times, right? Yes.
Jonathan Zaslow
And I've sat courtside.
Dan LeBatard
You know, you can't help but freak.
Stugotz
Out in him no, you were too quick on that.
Dan LeBatard
What just happened?
Jonathan Zaslow
Hank, they're upset. They're upset that you and I belong to a very exclusive.
Dan LeBatard
I'm glad you guys heard that too, because I think I just had a stroke. But anyway, go ahead.
Jonathan Zaslow
They're upset that you and I belong to a very exclusive club.
Dan LeBatard
That's why I understand. They're jealous if people don't love you. You know, I'm sure you've discovered this. I just catch sat courtside at the Knicks. People aren't, like, happy for you.
Jonathan Zaslow
They're.
Dan LeBatard
They're.
Stugotz
Well, how does this work, though? When you and still are talking about it, who do you look at and say, yes, that person is more of a Nick fan than Ben Stiller is. Who? What are the rankings?
Dan LeBatard
Well, Spike, of course, is the top of that mountain. I don't know. I mean, he go. He goes to games out of town. He's everywhere, you know?
Jonathan Zaslow
You know where else he's at? At the Met Gala instead of going to the game. Spike Lee, your number one fan status has been revoked.
Dan LeBatard
Revoked?
Jonathan Zaslow
You're not the number one fan if you're going to the Met Gala instead of doing this.
Dan LeBatard
Revoked.
Hank Azaria
I see Chalamet at every game. Spike Lee.
Jonathan Zaslow
And. And even when he couldn't make it, do you know what he did? Was he at the Met Gala? No, he was watching in a room on TV with his boys. That's what a number one fan does.
Dan LeBatard
Official.
Stugotz
Is that official?
Jonathan Zaslow
Official revoke.
Stugotz
So who replaces him?
Jonathan Zaslow
No, no, it's open.
Dan LeBatard
Tracy. Tracy Morgan.
Jonathan Zaslow
Tracy Morgan's up there? Yep. Ben's up there because he's like a regular Arsenic fan, and it really kind of disappoints me. But that. That is a pretty big fan.
Dan LeBatard
Then what do you want Ben to be doing? You don't want him to be excited? And is he just a little, like, is he dorking out too much for your taste? What's going on?
Jonathan Zaslow
Yeah, like, so I look at McEnroe. McEnroe is like, that's. That's how you do it. I'm a celebrity who loves the Knicks. Like, I'm New York.
Dan LeBatard
I'm cool.
Jonathan Zaslow
Right. Ben is just a little. Like I said, I have a good friend of mine, Mack and Rose, he's a music producer named Elite, and he's exactly like Ben Stiller. Like, it's almost like a child watching a child watch the Knicks. And I'm like, guys, come on, grow up a little bit.
Stugotz
You say this, but I think that you've had the sports fan knocked out of you because you love so much of the strategy. And I would say that the idea that. Hank, I don't know if this is just your friend. I thought it was weird that he sent me a quote. I didn't ask him for a quote. But the quote was, he is him. He is the man. He is our captain. This guy has a toddler's love for this basketball team. Like it's a four year old's love. And that's the best kind of love for a sports team. He. He'll be goofy with them because they allow him to be a child.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Probably say that quote because he loves you, Dan. I think he really wanted to be on and so. But he wanted to want to give you something. Yeah. You know, Ben. You know, Ben's got a lot on him. He works real hard. And I'm happy for him personally that he has a thing that brings him that childlike joy, you know, and he wants to jump around short side at the Knicks. Let him have his fun, man. Come on.
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Hank Azaria
Don LeBatard that was a long story.
Stugotz
Yeah, it's the only kind he tells.
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Mike Ryan
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Stugotz
La Carreta is a place where the best of the celebrations has to be the 97 Marlin celebration because it was Lovato.
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Stugotz
Gods.
Jonathan Zaslow
I. I'll tell you someone who wouldn't be jumping around courtside. Hank Azaria. You'd be cool courtside, wouldn't you?
Dan LeBatard
I've been courtside many times. I. I think it depends on the game, you know.
Jonathan Zaslow
Why not Leroy? But Hank, I guess my point is you would carry your. Even as excited as you were, even if you were jumping, it would be like a cool jump. It would like, Ben jumped like a child.
Dan LeBatard
Like, yay, guys, yay. I'm like more of a comment on your, your, your opinion on. On Ben's physicality rather than, you know, his attitude in the Nick game. I think you just, you want Ben to just be a little more graceful than I don't.
Chewy Advertiser
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Jonathan Zaslow
Well, Goldilocks, I want someone who's there and projects a level of cool, right? Like you're there. Passionate. Chalamet. Chalamet. Like his resume is short, but in that short amount of time. What a star.
Hank Azaria
Have you ever seen Dune?
Jonathan Zaslow
No, no, I'm not talking about his acting resume. I'm talking about his Knicks resume. His Knicks fan resume is short at this point, but he is spectacular. Much like his acting resume. I think. Like I said, McEnroe, he's got it. Tracy Morgan's got it.
Hank Azaria
You ever seen Dune 2?
Dan LeBatard
I got. I gotta support my friend here. I think Ben, he's genuine. He's himself. It's awesome.
Stugotz
No, wait a minute.
Dan LeBatard
He represents what the Garden is really like.
Stugotz
I'm with Hank on this though, because you are hardened. You're. You're out here criticizing the way that fans should feel about their team, the way they're supposed to behave. And what you're saying is pose and preen and be cool. Don't be yourself. Be the measure that I will find cool. I've lost respect for you, Ben Stiller.
Jonathan Zaslow
I mean, I have. And also, by the way, it's not just this stuff. I follow him on Twitter. And, like, some of the stuff he does on Twitter is like, again, it reminds me of my friends. And it's like, I don't want Ben Stiller to be like my friends. I want to be something greater than my friends. If anything, I think too highly of him. How about that? Wow.
Stugotz
You turning into a compliment now.
Jonathan Zaslow
Absolutely. I love Ben.
Chewy Advertiser
Wasn't he at an award show watching a Knicks game on his phone?
Jonathan Zaslow
That's good. That's a plus. That's a positive.
Dan LeBatard
I'm sure he was. I. I'm amazed that that Spike missed that game. I mean, he really. He travels country.
Stugotz
Well, he just had it revoked.
Jonathan Zaslow
How do you.
Stugotz
Hank, are you not going to argue with him on this?
Jonathan Zaslow
No one's arguing this.
Stugotz
I mean, he. No one's arguing this. He's revoked it, and now it's time for.
Dan LeBatard
I, I. It's such an absurd notion that I don't think it merits even pushing back against anyone you filed this with. If you could do such a thing, would reject it out of hand. They wouldn't even. Well, even look at it.
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, when I present the facts, they'd be like, wait a second. Like, it's not like he missed it to. To go because he was on set filming. Do the right thing, too. We would be like, all right, you know. You know, gotta work. You gotta do your thing.
Stugotz
This part's egregious.
Jonathan Zaslow
He missed it for the Met gala.
Hank Azaria
Happens every year.
Jonathan Zaslow
Oh, like what? So a bunch of people dress up all funny? Like, that's. That's more important than watching the Knicks.
Chewy Advertiser
Hank, what is the Met gala like? Because we were talking about.
Dan LeBatard
I've never been. I proudly said. Do I get some reverse?
Stugotz
Proudly, never been.
Chewy Advertiser
Hank is here at Colon. I hate charity.
Jonathan Zaslow
Not true.
Dan LeBatard
No, that's real.
Jonathan Zaslow
Whoa. No, no.
Dan LeBatard
I do almost nothing but raise money for charity, including sing like Springsteen everywhere. But, you know, stumbled on to another. So many little vocal stings now you guys have.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
What has happened? Why is it all about Little Song?
Stugotz
It's a Wild Willie Wednesday. There's no controlling anything that's happening around.
Dan LeBatard
That's what that means. I wondered what that meant. So he's allowed to toss in whatever little music he wants?
DraftKings Advertiser
Yeah.
Chewy Advertiser
He's out of control.
Stugotz
It's. I. I'm gonna put you on the spot. Hank, do you know the name of a single person in here? I think you've. You've Mentioned the been here. It's been so long since you've been here that I don't think you know any of the people you're talking to.
Dan LeBatard
No, I forgot Studio dls Zoom phone number two and Studio one Zoom shot is what's coming through on my Zoom and yeah, I've forgotten the folks name. I knew there's some new faces.
Hank Azaria
I just introduced myself to you.
Stugotz
Hank, he just, he just thinks you're bloated, you're just.
Dan LeBatard
You're not stugot.
Stugotz
I like.
Dan LeBatard
I know your name is John. I remember that. It's John.
Hank Azaria
All right, good enough.
Stugotz
The Mets, do they have your heart more than the Knicks?
Dan LeBatard
They kind of do. I've discovered in my old age for some reason baseball is with me more. I'm more of a. Yeah, but don't get me wrong, I'm freaking out over the Knicks. I mean, absolutely. And I, I go, I follow every year. I don't really miss a game.
Stugotz
So what's the best of it then? When you say New York hasn't felt like this, how much are you consuming? Are you like, have you gotten wrapped up in the run? Because it's not just that it's the Knicks and it's the beloved team. I don't know if the 69 Mets are this. I don't actually think the Knicks have a chance at the championship, but the fact that the people of New York do right now, the fact that the people of New York believe in their superstar and their executives and I think their coach, although maybe not they'll turn on him in a second if they lose in the next round. But I don't think that you've known what this feeling is. And I want you to describe what's happening around you and your friends in New York where you all get to the escape hatch of this childishness.
Dan LeBatard
Well, yes, it's great. We always, you know, we always have the jets to bring us right back down to earth in case any of us are feeling things too much and. But honestly, the honest answer question is it will take years for me to be before it wears off on me. Just the, the Knicks and Mets being relevant and good. Okay. Let alone how well they actually do. That is still a joy for me that we play meaningful late season games and are decent and in the conversation it would take a couple of years for me to get frustrating. Why isn't this team winning a championship? You know, and it also was a little uncomfortable, especially as a Mets. I really get weird when the teams do well. I don't know how to be. I'm so used to just complaining about what's wrong with these teams. It's hard for me to switch gears and just be happy that they're doing well. Not to mention these teams are. I meant when I said like these Nick wins, apart from the last one, have been heart attack. They haven't. They've trailed by 14 points in every game. At least. I mean, it's really a heart attack. A series of heart attacks.
Jonathan Zaslow
Watching this team, apparently the way to act is to jump up and down like a six year old. Just.
Dan LeBatard
Is it that as a Knick fan, do you need to just focus on something that bothers you? Are you proving my point? You can't just go with the joy. It's got to be finding what's annoying you about it. And that's where you're comfortable. Is that part of it?
Jonathan Zaslow
Because if you don't find that, they're going to give you a reason to really be worried. That's the problem. Disaster lurks right around the corner and you just have to. To keep hope alive for long enough.
Dan LeBatard
This is like OCD behavior. You're focusing on this so you don't really worry about the bigger problem, which is when are they going to lose?
Jonathan Zaslow
Hank, a little switching of gears here. I know you're a big Star wars fan. You and I did a Star wars podcast a little.
Dan LeBatard
Now I remember you. Yes, of course.
Chewy Advertiser
You're Obi Wan Kenobi.
Dan LeBatard
There you go.
Jonathan Zaslow
Have you been watching Andor?
Dan LeBatard
No, I haven't. I heard it's good though. I really liked season one.
Jonathan Zaslow
It. Season two is excellent. I was wondering, I asked this question based off of season one. There's some people who don't like adult Star Wars. How do you feel about trying to break through to people that, hey, not everything has to be, oh, I don't know, for a six year old, assume.
Dan LeBatard
My adult Star Wars. You don't mean like Star wars porn?
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, there are some risque storylines, including the opening scene of season one. He walks into a brothel.
Dan LeBatard
No, I kind of only like adults. Like, like Rogue One and, and you know what Favreau did there with, with Boba Fell, you know, because what we get now continuing, you know, the, the studio films, we argued about this. I think if it's coming back to me. You liked the prequels, which I don't, I don't understand. But no, I, I like the adult Star wars when it's done well. Yeah, a lot.
Stugotz
Hank, we're gonna let you go on this note, though. But I want to just. I just want you to get to answer these questions honestly.
Dan LeBatard
Yes, there's Wild Billy.
Stugotz
This is sort of a Wild Billy Wednesday feature. Yes. The. The.
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You know what this is? Would you attend their funeral music.
Stugotz
That's right. It's a. It's fun for the whole family. We're going to put you in the uncomfortable spot of would you attend the funeral of Al Pacino?
Dan LeBatard
Definitely.
Stugotz
Okay, you say that, but what if it's not in New York?
Dan LeBatard
Like, literally, if I were invited, how would I handle that if I had to?
Stugotz
Like, I don't think you're invited.
Hank Azaria
Other invites mashing it.
Stugotz
Wait a minute. Pacino's an invite? Okay.
Mike Ryan
I think his would be. You got rsvp.
Dan LeBatard
Well, I don't know anybody close. Like, it's not like it would be organic to invite to. To like that. I would go. Wait. Well, we're getting into Inside Bass Player. There's memorials and there's funerals, like, usually big actors. There's a kind of a private funeral. Like the memorial.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, memorial.
Stugotz
I went too famous. I don't know how to play my own game.
Mike Ryan
Janine Garofalo.
Jonathan Zaslow
Dan's got him like. Dan's got him like Wolf Ferrell in Wedding Crashers just showing up to funerals.
Stugotz
Well, I made Al Pacino too famous because I don't think that if.
Mike Ryan
Well, you didn't. The Godfather did.
Jonathan Zaslow
Also. Dog Day Afternoon.
Dan LeBatard
I don't understand the spirit of the question. All right.
Stugotz
The premise of the game is we're gonna put someone so close to the line that you have to say publicly about that person that you would not attend their funeral because you're not close enough to them. But I. I played the game poorly because I haven't played in a while. It's Wild Willie Wednesday. I wasn't expecting that. And I just blurted Pacino, Serpico.
Dan LeBatard
I. I'd go to Pacino's funeral even though I'm not particularly close to him. Just out of respect. I mean, I would. I'd be honored to be there. I'll say goodbye to the legend.
Chewy Advertiser
Would you go to Matthew Broderick's funeral?
Dan LeBatard
Sea of Love also no. Matthew. Yes, I would go to Matthew.
Stugotz
Absolutely.
Chewy Advertiser
What about the Knicks were playing.
Mike Ryan
Game got a little tougher.
Dan LeBatard
You know, would be a real dilemma whether I'd go to Matthew Broderick's funeral. The Met Gala. That would be like, a real tough one.
Jonathan Zaslow
Caro's way off.
DraftKings Advertiser
What about sts?
Dan LeBatard
I would dance on his grave.
Stugotz
So, yes. Is the answer.
Dan LeBatard
So yes. But to dance on his grave.
Chewy Advertiser
Sensible woman, Lisa Kudrow.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, definitely. I love.
Jonathan Zaslow
Insomnia.
Stugotz
Hank.
Dan LeBatard
Investment in my. Like, even if I would. Didn't. Wouldn't go. There's no investment. I saying I would never go to.
Pete Rose
That church, you know.
Chewy Advertiser
All right, Richard Kind.
Jonathan Zaslow
Devil's advice.
Dan LeBatard
Richard Kind is a dear friend. That's actually upsetting the idea that he would pass away.
Jonathan Zaslow
Dick Tracy.
Dan LeBatard
Dick Tracy.
Stugotz
You weren't supposed to hear him. He's just been sprinkling in the background. See you later, Hank. Good seeing you as always.
Dan LeBatard
I really miss you guys. And maybe Brockmire will make a return soon in a more, you know, more serious way on the show.
Stugotz
I would. I would love that. If he's got any Pete Rose. I think I've disinfected the place fumigated enough since the last time I asked the question. If you want to do any Brockmire. Opinions. Opinions on Pete Rose. That can be the punctuation on what we've got here. I don't know why we'd keep up the funeral.
Chewy Advertiser
Paul Reiser.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, of course I would go to Paul's funeral. This is all very sad, this very sad little segment you have here. No matter What, Billy plays 70 dating game music.
Stugotz
You're playing the music, Tammy. It's impossible to be Nathan Lane.
Dan LeBatard
Of course, I. Nathan love Nathan. Why would I not go back on Janine Garofalo?
Mike Ryan
Circle back on that one.
Dan LeBatard
Also love Janine Harvey. Thank you. I would not go to Harvey Weinstein.
Mike Ryan
We got it.
Dan LeBatard
I got.
Mike Ryan
You got him.
Dan LeBatard
I would absolutely not go to that.
Mike Ryan
Wow, Bill.
Dan LeBatard
Boy, oh, boy. That was crazy.
Stugotz
The Pacers. I mean, I don't know. Last year it was the Mavs, and they get to the finals and then they get throttled. Because historically, if you're four seeds, you're not as good as the one seeds. This sport historically has been pretty predictable. However, everything changes now. Last five years, I believe it's all a little less predictable than it used to be. And I believe the Pacers can beat anyone but okc. And I believe all of us would be in agreement. Unless maybe you guys think Minnesota or Golden State has a surprise that the best challenge to OKC remaining is the one they're presently playing. That OKC's greatest challenge the rest of the way is winning one more game of their next two. And everything will get easier for OKC after that because OKC has been a lot better than everyone all season. And Tatum was the only thing that was going to get in the way of that?
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, I mean, I don't know about that. I don't think Tatum was the threat that they worried about. I think Minnesota look like they're going to win that series. They're up 3:1. They pose a problem because they're an incredible defense as well. And then they have that kind of stellar type of supernova in Anthony Edwards, and he's. I mean, if you watch the second half of that game, Game four, he firmly took control of that series and said, look, I'm the best player here, and there's nothing you guys can do about it. So I don't think Oklahoma City breathes a sigh of relief after they get past Denver. I think they still have to worry about Minnesota, probably. And then, hey, you know what? This is the question, actually. I said this to Mike last night. The Pacers, now, they're in the conference finals two years in a row, regardless of whether they win or lose. How does history remember these guys? Because at this point, it's not a fluke. It's not a hot run. They've done it two years in a row, and they've done it pretty much the same way. Tough, physical defense, smart play, and Tyrese Halliburton has been sensational.
Hank Azaria
But can you answer that question with what we saw from the Pacers 10 years ago? Like, what's the difference? How do you remember those Pacer teams?
Mike Ryan
I think those were more memorable, but they had more matchups, especially with, like, the marquee story in the. In that sport. But to Amin's point, I mean, they also went to an IST final, however you want to, like, downplay that. They got to a trophy final against LeBron James.
Hank Azaria
Ist.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. In season tournament. Yeah. I mean, they've done a fair amount of suffering already with this core.
Jonathan Zaslow
You know, it's the NBA cup. Now, last year, those Ist.
Dan LeBatard
So.
Jonathan Zaslow
But to the point, right? Like, if they make it to the finals, the Pacers, which is a very real. A reality now, which, by the way, Pacers, Thunder, Finals. Someone's shitting up.
Mike Ryan
Paul George is the one that's shitting bricks.
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, he's podcasting again, so he's fine.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz: Episode Summary
Episode Title: The Big Suey: The Hank Azaria Show With Not Stugotz
Release Date: May 14, 2025
The episode kicks off with Dan LeBatard humorously acknowledging the similarity between this show and his other podcast endeavors. At [01:05], Dan quips, “The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.” This sets a lighthearted tone, emphasizing the camaraderie and playful banter that characterizes the show.
A significant portion of the episode delves into the contentious topic of Pete Rose’s potential induction into the Baseball Hall of Fame posthumously. At [01:39], Stugotz introduces the segment by referring to a recent appearance of Pete Rose on the show, highlighting Rose’s reluctance to accept the honor:
Pete Rose: “[...] the Hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the player and it's two. [...] Don't get me wrong, I'm the Hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the player and it's two. [...] It don't help me when I'm six feet under.”
Dan and Stugotz, along with their guest Hank Azaria, dissect the ethical implications of inducting Rose after his lifetime. At [03:21], Hank expresses frustration:
Hank Azaria: “Makes me angry, man. [...] it was cruel to allow him [...] to be voted in now.”
The discussion touches on Rose’s statistical achievements versus his off-field controversies, questioning whether a posthumous induction serves the integrity of the Hall of Fame.
Hank Azaria joins the conversation, bringing his unique perspective and humor to the discussion. At [05:21], Dan reveals Azaria’s recent endeavors outside of his traditional roles:
Dan LeBatard: “I have no idea which way to go here.”
Stugotz praises Azaria’s newfound passion for impersonating Bruce Springsteen:
Stugotz: “You've crushed the Springsteen. You've gotten so good at Springsteen, Hank.”
Azaria responds by explaining his motivation, blending personal growth with charitable efforts:
Dan LeBatard: “Having turned 60, now 61, and I raised a lot of money for charity doing it, and I really, really enjoy it.”
This segment highlights Azaria’s versatility and commitment to causes beyond his acting career.
At [07:10], Jonathan Zaslow is introduced as the new addition to the show, replacing Jonathan Weiner. Stugotz makes a light-hearted remark:
Stugotz: “According to Barrett Sports Media, that is Jonathan Zaslow.”
The hosts playfully discuss the transition, emphasizing the seamless integration of Zaslow into the show's dynamic.
A substantial discussion revolves around the New York Knicks, their ownership under Leon Rose, and the evolving fan culture. Dan shares his admiration for Rose’s decision-making at [15:08]:
Dan LeBatard: “Leon Rose has made a series of incredible decisions. [...] nobody saw that coming.”
Stugotz concurs, highlighting the strategic acquisitions and team-building efforts that have revitalized the Knicks:
Stugotz: “They gave five first round picks up for Bridges because he plays all the minutes and that's what the perimeter defense is going to look like.”
The conversation delves into the finer points of team management, the impact of key players like Jalen Brunson, and the overall optimism surrounding the Knicks' performance. Dan reflects on his personal fandom, balancing loyalty between the Knicks and the Mets:
Dan LeBatard: “I really get weird when the teams do well. I don't know how to be. I'm so used to just complaining about what's wrong with these teams.”
The hosts explore the phenomenon of celebrities attending Knicks games, debating who embodies the true spirit of a Knicks fan. Jonathan criticizes Ben Stiller’s enthusiasm:
Jonathan Zaslow: “I kind of lost respect for him because he just seems to be such a regular ass Nick fan.”
Hank Azaria weighs in with observations about Spike Lee’s commitment:
Hank Azaria: “I see Chalamet at every game. Spike Lee.”
The dialogue underscores the tension between genuine fandom and performative attendance, with playful jabs at various celebrity behaviors.
The conversation shifts to the authenticity of fan expressions during games. At [20:19], Jonathan challenges the notion of what constitutes a dedicated fan:
Jonathan Zaslow: “Da Chalamet vibes with this city in a way no player has for a long time. He is him. He is the man. He is our captain.”
Stugotz counters by advocating for a more childlike passion:
Stugotz: “He has a toddler's love for this basketball team. Like it's a four year old's love.”
This exchange highlights differing views on how fans should engage with their teams, balancing enthusiasm with decorum.
In a lighter segment, the hosts engage in the playful game “Would You Attend the Funeral of...”, where they humorously discuss their hypothetical attendance at various celebrities’ funerals. At [34:35], Stugotz sets the stage:
Stugotz: “Would you attend the funeral of Al Pacino?”
Dan responds earnestly:
Dan LeBatard: “I’d go to Pacino's funeral even though I'm not particularly close to him. Just out of respect. I mean, I would. I’d be honored to be there. I'll say goodbye to the legend.”
The segment features rapid-fire responses, blending genuine sentiment with comedic undertones, reflecting the show's signature blend of heartfelt and humorous content.
Shifting to sports analysis, the hosts dissect the Indiana Pacers' performance in the NBA playoffs. At [39:49], Jonathan praises the team’s consistency:
Jonathan Zaslow: “They've done it two years in a row, and they've done it pretty much the same way. Tough, physical defense, smart play, and Tyrese Halliburton has been sensational.”
Dan adds context by comparing the current Pacers to past teams:
Dan LeBatard: “They've done a fair amount of suffering already with this core.”
The discussion touches on key players, strategic gameplay, and the team's prospects moving forward, providing listeners with insightful analysis of the Pacers' journey and their standing in the league.
As the episode wraps up, Dan reflects on the Knicks' exciting season and his own evolving relationship with the team:
Dan LeBatard: “It will take years before it wears off on me. Just the Knicks and Mets being relevant and good. [...] The Knicks are in the conversation; it's still a joy for me.”
Stugotz emphasizes the collective excitement among New Yorkers:
Stugotz: “The people of New York believe in their superstar and their executives and I think their coach.”
The hosts hint at future discussions and continued analyses, leaving listeners eager for upcoming episodes while maintaining the show's engaging and dynamic atmosphere.
Dan LeBatard at [01:05]: “The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.”
Pete Rose at [02:16]: “I wouldn't want to go in the hall of Fame because I think the hall of Fame is for two things. It's one for the player and it's two.”
Hank Azaria at [03:21]: “Makes me angry, man. [...] it's cruel to allow him [...] to be voted in now.”
Stugotz at [05:34]: “You've crushed the Springsteen. You've gotten so good at Springsteen, Hank.”
Jonathan Zaslow at [07:17]: “You are feeling better about your Knicks than you have at any point in 25 years, correct?”
Stugotz at [08:28]: “But he was lying. Nobody was lying.”
Dan LeBatard at [14:46]: “I've discovered in my old age for some reason baseball is with me more.”
Jonathan Zaslow at [20:02]: “Tracy Morgan's up there? Yep.”
Stugotz at [21:34]: “This guy has a toddler's love for this basketball team. Like it's a four year old's love.”
Dan LeBatard at [28:19]: “ [...] it will take years for me to be before it wears off on me.”
This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully intertwines serious sports discussions with lighthearted humor and celebrity insights. From dissecting Pete Rose’s Hall of Fame prospects to analyzing the New York Knicks' resurgence and engaging in playful segments like funeral attendance hypotheticals, the hosts deliver a comprehensive and entertaining exploration of sports and pop culture. Featuring insightful guest contributions from Hank Azaria and the fresh perspective of Jonathan Zaslow, the episode offers both depth and levity, ensuring it caters to a broad audience spectrum, including those who may not be regular listeners.