The Big Suey: The "How Is This Okay?" Hour

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: The "How Is This Okay?" Hour
Date: February 9, 2026
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Chris, Tony, Jon, Jeremy

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard and the crew gather for the "How Is This Okay?" hour, a characteristically irreverent and probing Big Suey. The discussion explores some of the week’s wildest sports and pop culture stories—from court-storming controversies in college basketball to Bill Belichick’s relationship drama going public, Giannis’ questionable gambling market partnership, flagrant tanking in the NBA, and the bizarre state of Super Bowl commercials. At every turn, the gang keeps asking: “How is this okay?”

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Court Storming at North Carolina vs. Duke

[04:08–06:56]

• The group dives into UNC’s comeback win over Duke and the ensuing court storm by North Carolina fans.
• Debate ensues over whether UNC students should even storm the court, given their basketball pedigree.
• Quote:
  • "UNC basketball. UNC should storm the court against nobody." – Jon [05:45]
  • Chris and Jon argue about the meaning and diminishing value of court-storming: "The court doesn't mean anything anymore. It doesn't. It has no meaning anymore." – Jon [06:33]

2. Bill Belichick, Robert Kraft, and the Trolling T-Shirt

[07:07–10:59]

• Bill Belichick attends the UNC/Duke game accompanied by girlfriend Jordan Hudson, who’s spotted wearing an “Orchids of Asia Day Spa” T-shirt—a not-so-subtle reference to Robert Kraft’s public scandal.

• The crew is astonished at the level of pettiness on public display.

• Notable Quotes:

  • "This is evil. This is sinister. This is calling attention to this... This is trolling." – Chris [08:48]
  • "A breathtaking amount of petty. A flabbergasting amount of petty." – Dan Le Batard [10:59]

• They debate if Belichick was actively complicit or simply a clueless bystander.

  • "Am I the only one that can see a scenario where he doesn't really know what's happening here?" – Dan Le Batard [16:07]
  • Chris rejects this: "That's what he's counting on for everyone to just think he's the old man that doesn't get the reference." [16:11]

• Larger point: If Belichick has issues with Kraft, why not say it openly? Why use a T-shirt as proxy?

  • "If that's the way you feel, Bill. Say it. Like, don't drape your 20-year-old girlfriend in it." – Dan Le Batard [17:58]

3. Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Gambling Conflict

[20:41–28:14]

• The show pivots to Giannis’ convoluted trade request saga and his sudden, post-trade deadline announcement of a partnership with the prediction market Kalshi—a gambling platform that took millions in bets based on his possible trade.

• The crew expresses shock both at the timing and at the lack of NBA regulatory action.

• Notable Quotes:

  • "How is this allowed? He waits until his name is in the news cycle... to announce a Kalshi prediction market partnership." – Chris [21:20]
  • Jeremy breaks down the numbers: "$23 million were put into Kalshi over whether or not he would leave Milwaukee. And he is a financial investor." [22:55]

• Dan makes the larger point of unregulated gambling’s exploding influence and how athlete conflicts of interest go unnoticed compared to celebrity gossip.

  • "People shouldn't notice Belichick's girlfriend's shirt more than they notice this particular conflict." – Dan Le Batard [24:05]

4. Utah Jazz & Tanking: The New Point-Shaving?

[32:01–34:45]

• Jon brings up the egregious in-game tanking by the Utah Jazz, specifically referencing top starters benched in the fourth quarter despite a lead, seemingly to make sure the team lost for draft lottery reasons.
• The group compares this to classic point-shaving scandals and asks why such manipulation is tolerated, especially with sports gambling in the mix.
• Quote:
  • "Isn't that the definition of point shaving? You are making strategic in-game decisions to make sure a specific outcome—losing—happens." – Jon [34:09]
  • Dan: "How is this okay, look, this is what we're discussing. This is what this hour is. How is any of this okay?" [34:24]

5. Super Bowl Commercials & The State of Advertising

[36:12–42:27]

• A typically chaotic Le Batard crew break down Super Bowl commercials, especially those trading on nostalgia with de-aging effects (Dunkin’, Jurassic Park).
• The group questions the effectiveness and morality of certain ad choices, including Mike Tyson’s appearance, given his criminal history.
• Notable Quotes:
  • "Mike Tyson did a commercial for healthy eating... you can never have a convicted rapist be in commercials for your things." – Dan Le Batard [39:12]
  • On nostalgia marketing: "It's a commercial for old people, and it's summoning parts that a whole generation of people don't even know..." – Dan Le Batard [36:12]

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Memorable Moments & Quotes

Petty War of the Week

“A breathtaking amount of petty. A flabbergasting amount of petty.”
— Dan Le Batard, on Jordan Hudson’s shirt at the UNC/Duke game [10:59]

On Giannis & Kalshi

“$23 million were put into Kalshi over whether or not he would leave Milwaukee. And he is a financial investor in this company.”
— Jeremy [22:55]

On the Normalization of “How Is This Okay?”

“How is this okay, look, this is what we're discussing. This is what this hour is. How is any of this okay?”
— Dan Le Batard [34:24]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Restaurant Fry-Stealing & Super Bowl Celebrity Watch: [01:34–02:51]
• UNC/Duke Court Storming Debate: [04:08–07:00]
• Bill Belichick’s Petty T-shirt Scandal: [07:07–12:24]
• Giannis, Trade Rumors & Kalshi Conflict: [20:41–28:14]
• Utah Jazz and In-Game Tanking: [32:01–34:45]
• Super Bowl Commercials & Cultural Relevance: [36:12–42:27]
• Mike Tyson’s Marketing Redemption: [39:12–41:25]

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Overall Tone

The episode is signature "Big Suey": blending high-energy, layered sports talk with relentless rants, banter, and authenticity. Dan and the crew maintain a skeptical, often incredulous tone as they interrogate the shifting boundaries of sports culture, celebrity pettiness, and ethical gray zones—peppered with plenty of laughter, inside jokes, and Heat fan bitterness.

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Conclusion

This hour of The Dan Le Batard Show is a whirlwind tour of “how is this okay?” moments in the modern sports/celebrity/media ecosystem. With everything from college basketball etiquette and NFL infighting, to gambling conflicts and the strange normalization of old scandals, the crew’s reactions—equal parts disbelief and bemusement—drive home the surreal state of today’s sports world.

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For further listening, jump straight to:

• UNC/Duke Breakdown [04:08]
• Petty Belichick Coverage [07:07]
• Giannis Gambling Storm [20:41]
• NBA Tanking Debate [32:01]
• Super Bowl Ads Rundown [36:12]

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“How is this okay?”—with The Dan Le Batard Show, it rarely is, and that’s exactly why you’re listening.

Transcript

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[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

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[Chris]

I've done it.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

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[Jon]

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[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

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[Jon]

My son and I watch it. It's hilarious. You're way off base.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not even sure if people know what you're talking about based off how you said that it's the teddy bear Ted.

[Chris]

What?

[Dan Le Batard]

The teddy bear Ted.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Teddy bear Ted.

[Chris]

How much clearer could I see? And it's on Peacock.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Yeah, I'm just wondering whether anybody was clamoring for that.

[Chris]

Yeah, I think, I think so since it's a multi season run and popular IP and you can find it right here on Peacock.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Also, I saw on the broadcast early as they were showing all of the celebrities, they were saying, and there is Jay Z with his crew and Beyonce's there. Beyonce's more famous than Jay Z at this point, is she not? Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Who's more famous, Jay Z or Beyonce? I don't like how they're scrambling back there.

[Tony]

She was not there. That was his daughter.

[Jeremy]

That was his daughter. Blue Ivy Carter.

[Tony]

But again, looks just like her.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Just like her.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's a compliment. I guess.

[Chris]

I knew once they started moving back there.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Did any of quick pressure with 4? Did any of you watch the North Carolina Duke game? Because I really didn't.

[Tony]

Again, Dan. To be fair though, a twin very much looks like her mom.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

It was quick. It was a flash. It was like sideways too.

[Tony]

Like I saw that same thing.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

I was like, oh, there's Jay.

[Tony]

And it's like, oh, wait a second, man.

[Jon]

That's not Beyonce.

[Tony]

I'm telling you. Very close. What.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Did you guys watch? North Carolina, Duke? Because I did.

[Chris]

I did not watch the very end. I fell asleep. I thought that game was over.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Mike Duke was leading the entire game. And it remains a mystery to me today how North Carolina won that game because it very much was in the last four minutes of that game. 3, 3, 3. 3. Out of nowhere, college basketball players can't actually shoot. They're all, they're all learning how to play basketball. They're all terrible shooters. You never see threes go down like that. Bang, bang, bang. And then the last one hits and you, you gotta let him storm the court and you gotta leave the 4/10 of a second off of the clock. Don't get everyone off of the court. Jon Scheyer saying after the game that one of his staffers got punched. No one saw the staffer get punched. And there's still not video evidence of the staffer getting punched.

[Chris]

In this defense, they're very rarely cameras at a Duke, North Carolina game.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

They rush everyone off the court and then play the last 4:10 of a second. So then you get the court storming again. After that you get two court storms. But North Carolina deserve to enjoy the revelry of winning that game because having watched that game, I still don't understand how they won that game.

[Jon]

Yeah, North Carolina fans and the students should be embarrassed, be ashamed of themselves. You're North Carolina basketball. You're storming the court.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

That was a pretty fun way. It doesn't matter though.

[Jon]

Duke's storming the court.

[Tony]

Zach, duke is top five rival.

[Jon]

And UNC's ranked too. Okay, he's also ranked.

[Tony]

What's a top five win?

[Dan Le Batard]

Ranked versus ranked.

[Chris]

You don't storm uncare the most.

[Jon]

UNC basketball. UNC should storm the court against nobody.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

They hate Duke the most. They would only storm the court against Duke. That's the one.

[Jon]

But you stormed the court because you just did something improbable. So UNC basketballs tell me that beating Duke is now improbable.

[Tony]

Not improbable, but a top five Duke team. That's a very good team.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can be excited. You don't storm. You can like, it can be a ruckus atmosphere. You go crazy. But like, you don't storm because you've been here before.

[Chris]

Zaz, I get your larger point. And in a vacuum, I don't even really disagree with you. But you're saying when it's improbable, you can storm the court. Well, if you watch this game now, it was improbable. That was a wire to wire ass kicking that they were on the receiving end of. I still am confused because I fell asleep and I fell asleep because I'm like, this game did not deliver storm.

[Jon]

The court doesn't mean anything anymore. It doesn't. It has no meaning anymore.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Chris, Cody, what did you put in front of the atmosphere? What is the word? That.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, no.

[Jeremy]

Ruckus.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

So you made it a ruckus.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ruckus atmosphere.

[Tony]

No, the raucous. Raucous.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Raucous. Yeah, but I. So it was both, though, because it was also a ruckus. It turned into a ruckus because.

[Dan Le Batard]

Nailed it.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Yeah, but you didn't nail it. But two birds, one stone.

[Chris]

Wait, what?

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Oh.

[Dan Le Batard]

Said something, meant something else. But it fits.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

So on this day, though, Bill Belichick shows up. We were talking about this last week, right? We were talking about the Panthers fighting with the lightning, and we were talking about rivalries, but also players actually hating each other. And when you see a North Carolina game against Duke, their luminaries show up. Like their people all show up, former players. And it's a really fun, different thing. And these schools hate each other. And that hatred gets passed down generationally. From parents. So Bill Belichick goes to the game with Jordan Hudson, and she's wearing. What is the shirt she is wearing there? Can you describe it to the audio audience?

[Chris]

It is an Orchids of Asia day spa T shirt, obviously custom made. This is the massage parlor that was tied to Robert Kraft's prostitution bust in 2019.

[Jon]

How do you know the parlor doesn't sell them?

[Tony]

Good point.

[Chris]

By him. Do you have rocks in your mouth?

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

When he delivers a good point? He does it with a little. When he's got you. No, when he's got you.

[Dan Le Batard]

Corner.

[Chris]

I've been around him so long that I can kind of speak, but if I just met you, I wouldn't know what the hell you just said.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

How do you not. How do you not know that they don't sell them because you're saying it's custom made. And he's. He's. As a journalist, he's questioning your verification. Cool.

[Chris]

Then she went down to the day spa that was connected to Robert Kraft's 2019 prostitution.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

She probably could have just ordered it on Amazon. It doesn't have to be. She doesn't have to go down to Boca.

[Chris]

All right, let's not get bogged down here. There was intention.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chris]

All right. This is evil. This is sinister. This is calling attention to this. This is trolling. This is speaking to all the conspiracy theories out there that Robert Kraft is behind Bill Belichick not getting into the hall of fame. This is. You want to talk about. This is a purposeful, like, distraction for Bill Belichick. What? Bill Belichick's gonna play dumb there. They did this with intention. They don't get to play the whole, like, leave us alone. We're not asking for any of this card. That is. We are looking for this attention. We have a message to share.

[Dan Le Batard]

Do you think this is him being, like, the, hey, you should do this, or is this her? Hey, I have this idea. Remember, he did this, and Bill's just like, oh, this.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

This cares.

[Chris]

They're both having a laugh over.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am just curious. The dynamic there, like, who's actual mastermind behind this is, like, crazy.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

This is staggering in its pettiness. It really. When I saw this, I was like, whether Bill knows or not, I cannot believe the size of this pettiness. Even if. Look, man, I have rarely seen my wife, how she gets when she gets that way in defense of me. She doesn't do it in defense of herself. It's when someone has wronged me. What it stirs in her is something that is nastier than I'm used to seeing from her. And I don't know whose idea this was. I can't imagine that it was Belichick's idea. But it is born of whatever it is that Belichick is telling her about Bob Kraft, that she would wear a T shirt that represents Robert Kraft's greatest public shame. There is none worse than this than him being caught as an old man in a Boca tanning strip mall center in the middle of a sex trafficking ring. Allegedly. Like he has no greater public shame. To wear that T shirt while standing next to Belichick at North Carolina Duke when the Patriots are in the super bowl is a. Is a breathtaking amount of petty. A flabbergasting amount of petty.

[Chris]

It's right up there with that time Robert Kraft auditioned for that movie.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Can we get that? Can we get that video? Because I think I get in trouble for playing that on ESPN one time before Robert Kraft actually. Before Bill Belichick ended up with the young girlfriend Robert Kraft, a recently widowed Robert Kraft was doing. Auditioning for a part. Acting or helping a young woman in a part I forgot about. I got in trouble for playing that on ESPN on highly questionable. Yeah, they got there. I don't know what phone calls got made where, but I found out after playing it because I was so delighted by it. Right. It's an 80 year old owner sitting there acting opposite. Here we go. A Heather Graham got in trouble before doing it here. Do it again. A Heather Graham look alike. Yes. In a bikini top. And yeah, see if you can find the sound because the audition is truly terrible. Like he's a cigar store wooden Indian for acting like he's just. He's absolutely not. Not a good actor. Go ahead and play it.

[Jon]

How do you know the Parlor doesn't sell them?

[Dan Le Batard]

I found that one first.

[Chris]

How do you know.

[Jon]

How do you know the Parlor doesn't sell them? I'll be honest with you. At first I wasn't sure what I said there. How do you know the Parlor doesn't sell them? It's tough to make out what I said.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

It's when you're at your most confident and most relaxed when you know you've got a killer line. You just do your. Your jowls get a little. A little looser and you really let it fly there and. And you had a good one.

[Jon]

There's an air of confidence to that.

[Chris]

How do you know it's four words.

[Jon]

How do you know. How do you know the. How do you know how do you know the.

[Tony]

How do you know after a couple of brown liquors in you.

[Jon]

How do you know whatever it you know had the effect.

[Chris]

How do you know I did understand them?

[Tony]

Had the effect of what?

[Chris]

I understand him, but I've known him for 20 years.

[Jon]

Got the point across.

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[Chris]

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[Jon]

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[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You guys are surprised by how petty that is, right? Like that you would just do any of that publicly. Not that you would feel it. Not that you would feel it, but that you would do that you would allow anybody to feed on this kind of petty.

[Jon]

It's not even just that. It's the weekend that the Patriots are in the super bowl and obviously six championships with the super bowl with the Patriots. But Drake May went to the school that he works at and is in the super bowl that weekend with the Patriots. And this is why Belichick's an asshole. And I find it funny that he was left out of the hall of Fame. That's why that. That was funny to me last week when Belichick now has to wait because he's a dick.

[Dan Le Batard]

Am I the only one that can see a scenario where he doesn't really know what's happening here?

[Chris]

Oh, stop. That's what he's counting on for everyone to just think these do old man that doesn't get the reference.

[Dan Le Batard]

He clearly say that's going to get picked up. Like you're just making more news for me. I just feel like if she.

[Chris]

So he's a Nick dad.

[Dan Le Batard]

See, look, I'm not trying to say that I'm sure he is aware a little bit. I don't know. It just seems so obvious that this would make news if it bothered. He would try to avoid it if it bother.

[Chris]

No, no, no. He's actually looking for it.

[Jon]

Right.

[Dan Le Batard]

And that is insanely petty.

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[Jon]

And that's the part that I also find to be incredibly hypocritical. And it's something that he was doing this entire first year at UNC for the coach who in the NFL we're dealing with professional players was all about no distractions. It's only about the team. Don't do or say anything that takes any of the attention away from football. And he is nonstop with let's take attention away from the team.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Okay. The thing that I want to go down the path on though, and thank you, Chris, for doing that because I think we're all in agreement. Like, he can't be an innocent victim on all of this. But beyond petty, I suppose you can make the argument on behalf of it being artful, content wise, but if that's the way you feel, Bill. Say it. Like, don't. Don't drape your 20 year old girlfriend in it. Like, if that's the way you feel, stop with not congratulating Drake May when they win and he's the North Carolina quarterback and doing some of the stuff that you do. Say it like, quit hiding behind. You're a champion coach. Like, if this is the way that you feel, don't drape it in or in the ornament that your girlfriend is wearing.

[Chris]

It's small and pathetic. It's pathetic what he's doing to have Jordan wear that shirt and send that message out the weekend that that franchise is in the super bowl when you know people are gonna be looking at you and decontextualizing everything, every single one of your moves out in with one another. I am flabbergasted at how ugly this has gotten publicly because he, in my mind, he did just say it. In my mind, that is a statement with craft statement a couple of days earlier saying Bill deserves and trying to high road it. No, for him to come back in low road like that is.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Nope. Mike, if he said it, if Bill Belichick said it. What about Robert Kraft being caught at that sex parlor? If he said it, it would be headlines and it would be nonstop. It wouldn't be whispered about and it wouldn't. I'm not sure. Did he know? Like, is he a doddering old man? If he said it, it would be headlines for days and there would be no misunderstanding about. Oh, he actually hates everything in that organization now. He's not said that.

[Chris]

Yeah, I am not. Maybe you guys are putting more stock into the. Did he or did he not know?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's just so tasteless.

[Chris]

Obvious. Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's so obviously tasteless. Have to imagine.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

He can't be this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why aggressively petty.

[Chris]

He's showing us who he is.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, I mean, that's wild. If he is.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

The thing about it though is, again, hurt people. Hurt people. This is Bob Kraft's greatest public shame that you're hitting like you're hitting in the softest spot. Like, this is the. He was widowed and. And he loved his wife. And their love was a public love that everyone in New England knows about. And an old man was caught at a Boca strip mall in the middle of a ring in which he made a lot of that stuff go away, like because of the amount of power that he has. A lot of that stuff was a momentary blip and then he fought it and then he went. Then it went away. Bill Belichick being with someone who's purposely showing off at that game this weekend. Bob Kraft's greatest public shame. I would like there to be more. If that's the amount of petty that Belichick has in him, I would like to hear it spoken instead of us having to interpret whether or not it's so. When he's making. When they're making it this obvious. What are you shaking your head about? Tony Dan?

[Tony]

Everything that you're saying. I'm listening to it, and I'm thinking of one thing. You could have said all those different things and just switched the name. It's exactly what Giannis did, too, by the way. Just standing behind an absolute.

[Jon]

Just say it, man.

[Chris]

Just say it.

[Tony]

You want to get traded, but you don't want to get traded. I want to find a new home. But now you come out after the trade deadline and say, no, I attract stars. No, no, you don't. No, you don't. You have Miles Turner, okay? You had Kyle Kuzma. You didn't attract shit. You know, he attracted a guy that they cut from Brooklyn, okay?

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Oh, but this isn't the reason. This.

[Chris]

You're.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You're talking about what happened with him and this alternate gambling market that there is. That is predicting. You're talking.

[Chris]

He hasn't even gotten.

[Tony]

I haven't started that. I haven't even started that. That ruined his legacy, by the way.

[Chris]

This is a open and shut. What are we doing here?

[Jon]

Ruined his legacy. Open and shut.

[Chris]

Oh, yeah. Pablo, five minutes on. On the Calci Yanis thing.

[Jon]

How is this allowed?

[Chris]

How is it allowed? He waits until his name is in the news cycle for weeks on end to announce a Kalshi prediction market partnership. That's not something that.

[Tony]

After the trade deadline.

[Chris]

After the trade deadline, while he's manipulating the markets.

[Jon]

Don't worry. Don't worry. Adam Silver. Get on it.

[Chris]

They're taking millions of dollars in bets as to which team he'll land on. On that platform. And then he comes out after being all coy and stuff and saying he's a partner.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You weren't even talking about that, though. You're just talking about just his other social media behavior of. I don't. I don't leave. I'm not actually leaving.

[Tony]

Yes. Putting the Jordan Belfort, you know, Wolf of Wall street thing up, saying, I'm not, buddy. Three weeks ago, you said you wanted to find a new home, and then you dogging pony show. Okay. With Milwaukee.

[Chris]

They called it a sideshow.

[Tony]

It was a sideshow.

[Chris]

Maybe we should revisit what Brian Windhorse was saying there, because the teams were left with the impression these guys aren't serious about moving him. And then they didn't move him. Teams were informed the evening before the deadline that they were not moving him. But it was absolutely something that prediction markets were getting handles on, and it was something that he perpetuated. So now he comes out as a partner for this platform, as a. As a financial backer of Couch of Cowshi. Like he stood to gain from all the action they took. Do you not. Do you. Am I. Is this nuts? How is this allowed?

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it's crazy. Especially because, like, those partnerships don't happen overnight. And over the course of the time after it was brought up by shams that, hey, Giannis wants out of Milwaukee and they're looking at trades and the Bucks are taking it seriously, $23 million were put into Kalshee over whether or not he would leave Milwaukee. 23 million. And he is a financial investor in this company. And that comes out the day after in this way that is so, like, cocky about it. Like, that was. It was brazen in the way he went about it.

[Jon]

It was shocking.

[Tony]

And guess what?

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

It's not regulated.

[Jeremy]

Not regulated at all.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Not regulated.

[Tony]

You can put whatever you want in whatever amount of money and be like.

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[Tony]

I'm, you know, in some. I'm in Wisconsin.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Here it is.

[Chris]

Boom. He also announced a partnership, an ownership stake in Chelsea Women's Football Club. It seemed as though Giannis use the trade deadline and his name being in the news as a setup for a whole marketing rollout on partnerships that were trotted out not even 48 hours after the NBA trade deadline. That is with intention.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

That is an obvious conflict of interest. And I want to get into what it is that Tony was saying about ruined legacy, because I don't believe that this will stick to him in any meaningful way, no matter how mad Miami people are that they did not get him. But when we talk about some of the stuff going on with gang gambling market in general and how much we don't know about the behavior of some of our athletes and where they're conflicted. I don't know if you guys have seen Emmanuel Clase, the Guardians closer, was as good a closer as there was in the sport. Now the numbers are. He manipulated 48 games. Like, there were 48 games where he was throwing. It's a lot more than people thought. He was really terrible last year. It didn't make any sense. That he was terrible because he's a dominant closer. So he's never, never gonna play baseball again. Okay? He's gonna get banned for life. And that news comes out as Yasio Puig, who came from Cuba and was an uncommon phenom in baseball. He now faces 20 years in federal prison because of his involvement in gambling in Los Angeles that he was doing privately. He wasn't even doing it through any of these regulated or unregulated sources and then lied to federal investigators. So now he's facing 20 years. You're talking about somebody who was a Dodger superstar, somebody who was a legitimate baseball phenom, now faces 20 years. When you say ruined legacy, guys, on this, I don't believe anyone's talking about this. I have heard no one, never mind ruined legacy on Yanis. I've heard no one talking or caring about the conflict that you guys are talking about, which is you can't do what he just did. Like, that's not something that should be allowed to happen quietly. That's not something that should be allowed to happen with people not noticing it. People shouldn't notice Bill Belichick's girlfriend's shirt more than they notice this particular conflict. And when we talk about foreign players, when I talk about Emmanuel Clase, Yasiel Puig, Giannis Antetokounmpo, when they come to this country, they have to live by our rules. But what are the rules here? This stuff's not governed. Like, what are the rules when the President of the United States. Okay, has taken $500,000 from the 500. Was it 500,000 or 500 million? I don't even know what it was. Some ridiculous fee that he was taking that he says he doesn't know about because his sons are involved in it. And it involves giving away AI information in exchange for that money. Because everything's compromised now. It doesn't matter what's regulated, what's not regulated. Rules don't matter anymore. No one's talking about. Set up the conflict again so that people understand who don't understand. There was plenty of advertising for this during the super bowl because unregulated gambling. Unregulated gambling is what they call it.

[Tony]

Futures markets, Dan.

[Jon]

It's a prediction market.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

It's a prediction.

[Chris]

Predictions are largely unregulated, and they're like. LeBron has a marketing partnership with DraftKings. Kevin Durant has done stuff with ownership stakes in the betting space. But prediction markets and platforms that are totally dedicated to prediction markets. This is something new that the NBA is dealing with. There hasn't been precedent, I don't think for somebody that has a stake in a sole prediction market platform. And to have it all roll out by the deadline is crazy. And it seems like did this not go through some sort of compliance with the NBA? A partnership like this cannot be taking the NBA by surprise. Which is why I'm stunned at the timing. Because if the NBA knew about this and it cleared their checks and balances, the optics of this, given everything that's going on with salary cap circumvention in that league, are terrible. It's terrible optics because you're looking at what happened with this trade and the honest pursuit and you could very clearly see now, now that it's over, that, oh, Giannis kind of manipulated this a little bit. The narrative around his actual departure wasn't the truth.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

It's not going to stick to him though. Ruined legacy. You guys are getting carried away with that. Like, you guys can shave Jeremy, you can shake your head all you want. This, how do you have this sticking to him?

[Jeremy]

I'm telling you, like, a lot of people felt differently about him over the last 48 hours after that than they did before Heat fans. No, I know NBA people seen the way NBA Internet reacted to this. People calling for him to be in prison over what just happened in the manipulation of these markets. Like, and I'm, I'm talking about like reputable people. I'm not talking about like random heat fan. 1, 2, 3.

[Jon]

I'll determine how reputable.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Oh, he put you on the spot there.

[Tony]

Name somebody who said Yana should be imprisoned.

[Jeremy]

I'll. I'll go grab the name.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

I feel, I feel for Jeremy here because you just cornered him. I'm surprised you didn't say it with the marbles in your mouth. No. How about you name them?

[Tony]

To be fair though, how do you know the.

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[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Don lebatard.

[Jon]

Jon, can you rate my Al Pacino from that billiard scene in Carlito's Way if I do it for you? I think it's pretty good.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Jon]

Stugarts, you think you're Big Tom when.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You'Re gonna die big time.

[Jeremy]

That is on my infamous scale of 1 to 10.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

That's a.

[Chris]

That's a 7.6 solid.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good job.

[Chris]

That's a suey nominee right there.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Good. This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. Go ahead. You want to be.

[Chris]

Why do we need to be fair? We're scorned by Giannis. Let's wear our bias on our sleeve.

[Tony]

What I was going to say, outside.

[Chris]

Of the couch, we are calling for jail.

[Dan Le Batard]

Trying to figure out who that is.

[Chris]

That is. The official position of the scorned Heat fan is we are calling for jail.

[Dan Le Batard]

At least wait two weeks before you spit in my face with couch. Like if this happened. Like next week. All right, not as painful, but the.

[Chris]

Next day and less shady.

[Jon]

Can I tell you who should be in jail? I'm being serious here.

[Chris]

Who's that?

[Jon]

Zaz, the head coach of the Utah Jazz, Will Hardy. You see what happened on Saturday night? I'm being serious now.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

No, this is a good segue.

[Chris]

I did not see what the Utah Jazz.

[Jon]

He should be in prison. I'm being serious.

[Chris]

Really?

[Jon]

So Saturday night.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Hold on. Before you get any further, just. I love the Amin stat of three years ago, the Utah Jazz had the single worst defensive season of any Team ever topped only by what they did the next season two seasons ago, topped only by what they're doing this year season. That's why he should be in prison. Okay, but continue.

[Jon]

So I'm going to enter some more evidence then to the case. All right, so the Utah Jazz, like they traded for Jaren Jackson Jr. Last week. It's clearly looking toward the future. All right, but they, they still, they're still tanking, okay? Because their pick is protected if it's 1 through 4. If it's 5 through 9, they have to give it up. I think maybe to the Clippers, but it's protected 1 through 4. So they still want to lose. Okay. The Utah Jazz on Saturday night, they're playing at the Orlando Magic. The Jazz were up by seven going into the fourth quarter. In the fourth quarter. Lauri Markkanen, who had 27 points through three quarters, did not play a single second in the fourth quarter. Good player Jaren Jackson Jr. Who had 22 points through three quarters, did not Play a single second in the fourth quarter. Starters Yusuf Nurkic and Keonte George also did not play a single second in the fourth quarter. And predictably, the Orlando Magic came back and won the game 120 to 117. So let me ask you something. You know when, when Shantay Porter purposely comes in with unders, under points, under rebounds. This is a federal fence because he is manipulating gambling odds. The Utah Jazz head coach here, not before the game where they're, listen, we're trying to tank. So we're going to sit guys and, and they're going to play. And if they win, they win. And if they don't, they don't. Things were not going the way that the Utah Jazz wanted through three quarters because they want to lose games. So in the middle of the game, the head coach decided to make strategic moves to ensure that the team loses. That's not point shaving.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

They said before the game that Keonte George would be on a minutes restriction, but nobody else. That is, that.

[Jon]

Isn't that the definition of point shaving? You are making strategic, strategic in game decisions to make sure that a specific outcome losing happens. That's point shaving.

[Tony]

Look, I usually think you're a sucker. You're dead on this.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

How is this okay, look, this is what we're discussing. This is what this hour is. How is any of this okay?

[Chris]

Three stories.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Jordan Hudson. How is this okay? Jan is being having conflicting conflict of interest with the predictions market. How is this okay? And also the Utah Jazz losing on purpose? How is this okay?

[Chris]

Jeremy did find some support online. He found someone asking openly. Is this okay?

[Jeremy]

Yes. Reputable OG Anunoby addict at playoff bound.

[Tony]

Ny hold on, wait, read that again.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, OG Ananobi addiction. I was like layoff found. NYK asks how is this legal?

[Jon]

Not reputable.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

No, he's made the rule.

[Jeremy]

There is an MLB journalist that had questioned how it's not manipulating Clark Spencer throw him under the bench. Well, June Lee.

[Chris]

Yeah, on that beat, Jun Lee's all about like how like gambling's taking the joy away from sports. I don't know man. When. When Henderson got that catch at the.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

End, your boy was pretty happy.

[Jon]

When A.J.

[Tony]

Barner scored that first touchdown, Dan. I was elated.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just needed a half a rushing yard from jsn.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You got a defensive touchdown too. What did that pay? What is a defensive touchdown? No, no, I'm not asking you how much you bet. I'm saying was it 7 to 1, 10 to 1? What does it pay for a deal? What, what. What were the odds on a. Because I think Damek said. I was thinking about Damek because he said it was 11 to 1 odds that you get for a safety. And, and they weren't pinned inside their five yard line. And the one like the, the, the ingredients were perfect to get a safety given Will Campbell was out there. They can't block anybody. And it's the number one defense pinned pinning the Patriots inside of their six yard line three different times. That would have paid 11 to 1. But what did I. A defensive touchdown. Can you guys look? Oh, 8:50, 8:50. It's very good.

[Tony]

And I got A.J. barnard's plus 750.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

So Smith and Jigba leaves that game and it doesn't even end up mattering because of how it is that the Seahawks and Collinsworth saw it early, right? It's three nothing middle of the first quarter. He's like, oh, this is all this is going to be a defensive game. Like there's going to be no answer for what's presently happening out on the field at any point from the Patriots. But did you guys on the commercials. We have not talked about the commercials. It's the only time at any point in the year that anyone talks about or pays attention to commercials. And I thought that the Goodwill, what was it the good old Duncan commercial that, that was going to feed a certain demo for the nostalgic among you. You know they bring out Ted Danson from Cheers and they make him look young. They made all these people look the age they were when they were in the 90s, the whole commercial was meant to feed the demo of did you love this stuff back in the 90s, 30 years ago. So it's a commercial for old people, and it's summoning parts that a whole generation of people don't even know Ted Danson as the bartender from Cheers. Like, they don't. I don't even know if they necessarily watch Friends, although it plays on commercials everywhere. I also didn't understand why they wouldn't get Matt Damon, given that he was in the last Duncan commercial with Afflec and Belichick and Jordan Hudson. Why'd they get. Why did they have Ben Affleck playing the role of Matt Damon when they could have just gotten Matt Damon, who didn't participate in the commercial?

[Jeremy]

At the end of the commercial, there was a little disclaimer that said, like, back in the 90s, there was a real leading man who played Will Hunting in a movie that was very popular. Like, trying to appeal to Gen Z in that respect. I would have really loved this commercial if they didn't d these guys.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Guys.

[Jeremy]

They would have looked exactly how they look now, but with the wigs them, as opposed to the stupid. Like, why are we doing this CGI to try to de age these people? It's so stupid. None of us want to see all of this, like, AI manipulating all of it. Frustrating.

[Jon]

Speaking of the cgi, that Jurassic park cgi.

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Awful.

[Chris]

I didn't like it.

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Awful.

[Chris]

Left me uncomfortable. Aging. I'm with you. That looked bad. Although I did enjoy the nostalgia of the commercial.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Did anyone have more commercials than Jeff Goldblum? Did any one person have more commercials? I. I know.

[Chris]

This is Backstreet Boys.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Yeah.

[Chris]

How thrilled were their agents when all those emails started rolling in? I actually thought the karaoke one for Coinbase was pretty. Pretty good.

[Dan Le Batard]

That one got the attention of our room. I couldn't get anyone to shut up, but everyone started singing when that one came on. Yeah.

[Jeremy]

And because of that, my entire super bowl party started booing when it ended up being for freaking Coinbase. Like, everyone's so excited. Oh, karaoke. What is this going to be? Coinbase. Really?

[Tony]

What's your deal?

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You don't like crypto. We get it.

[Tony]

What's your deal?

[Dan Le Batard]

It was Denny's. You would have been good.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Like, yeah, Mike Tyson.

[Chris]

Denny's would have been fine for him. Grand slam.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Mike Tyson did a commercial for healthy eating. And there has been in the history of. Of, I'm gonna say, American sports and American marketing. Never been someone Like Mike Tyson, you can never have a convicted rapist be in commercials for your things. That's not something that's ever been. So he navigates a space that no one. He just. He's that famous and that recognizable that the Q rating is somehow, like, you guys say, that this is gonna ruin Giannis's legacy. There are some legacies that are so large that they're almost not ruinable with little things. Not that being in prison for rape for three years is a little thing, but his life is so crazy throughout that somehow that is a spot on it, that's not the lead spot and can somehow get erased over years somehow in a way that doesn't totally make sense to me, because there's never been someone in the history of marketing who gets to occupy this particular space.

[Tony]

He was in a terrible space. And you know what put him over the hangover? Like that movie put him over. Back into the good graces of everybody in society.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

But convicted rapist doesn't ever get to be spokesman for commercial things during the Super Bowl. And no one. And there's not even a public objection.

[Jon]

And someone who's generally well liked.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Well, it's because of what Tony is saying. It's because the hangover, all of a sudden, he went from menacing to being somebody in a comedy that we can laugh with and was making fun of himself. But again, convicted rapist. And not just convicted rapist, but told me one time, yeah, I was more comfortable there than I was on the outside. Like, I didn't want to actually leave. My life was better in there than it is on the outside because I got a bunch of people grabbing and a whole bunch of stuff that I want on the outside and on the inside, nobody messes with me, and I could just. Just be alone and my life is easier. What were the top three commercials, though, by consensus. Like, the Goodwill Duncan commercial was one of them, was it not? And I understand Tony making a face because it was for a demo, and it's not Tony's demo.

[Tony]

Like, I knew a couple of guys, but then after that, I was like, okay, whatever.

[Jon]

There were two others that I really liked. I liked the NFL tight end prostate commercial. Yes, that was very funny. And the Budweiser.

[Tony]

The Budweiser one was the best one with the Clydesdale.

[Jon]

And then the Eagle dudes with Free.

[Tony]

Bird playing in the background. They had the Eagle coming up with the horse.

[Jon]

I was like, oh, you didn't stand up and cheer when.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Oh, yeah, everybody should be careful. What else? Roy, do you have any nominees. Do the rest of you have any nominees for the commercials that people were talking about yesterday?

[Chris]

Because no, Good word. Duncan was the best one for me, I believe.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ben Stiller, Benson Boone.

[Tony]

See, the falling off the stage is funny.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Yeah. But the thing about that commercial, and I always have an objection to this because I do very little in the way of retention. I'll remember your commercial, but not necessarily what you were advertising, because the commercial. The commercial is so far afield. Like Ben Stiller as dodgeball rock star who's getting, you know, Instacart. Yeah, but you don't remember because it.

[Tony]

Has nothing to do with Instacart.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

It doesn't have anything to do with anything. It's just a commercial you remember, but you don't remember the product as it relates to marketing. Finally, though, and I'm glad Bad Bunny has a quicker video team than the one that we have. We have located the Bob Kraft audition. That was his greatest public shame before the massage parlor. Hi, I'm Ricky Lander and I'm auditioning for Mary Elena.

[Chris]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

Yes. Is that is burned in my memory.

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[Dan Le Batard (Host)]

You mile.