The Big Suey: The League of Leagues (feat. Dave Dameshek)

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Episode: The Big Suey: The League of Leagues (feat. Dave Dameshek)
Date: August 22, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew dive into the ever-changing landscape of NFL preseason, pop-culture, and the intersection of fandom, with special guest Dave Dameshek. This episode is a high-spirited blend of football analysis, playful debates about fantasy leagues spanning multiple sports, and commentary on contract drama, with Dameshek’s signature wit and football knowledge at center stage.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Preseason Football: Meaningless, Grueling, and a Fan's Odd Devotion

• Opening Banter & Football Fandom
  • Rapid-fire laughs about podcast similarities and restaurant fry theft set the tone for the episode’s candid camaraderie ([00:02]).
  • The gang discusses the insanity of fans attending NFL preseason games, with Hawk—former player—admitting he never looked up in awe at fans during preseason.
    • “I was too focused on trying not to be sent home.” – Hawk ([01:01])
  • Hawk breaks down the high stakes for non-superstars during preseason, separating the anxiety of job security from veteran comfort ([01:24]).

2. Jameis Winston & Unlikely NFL Careers

• Dameshek’s NFL Honors Gifting Story
  • Dameshek brings up his prank of giving inconvenient gifts to NFL stars on the red carpet, telling the story of giving Jameis Winston a live goldfish.
  • “I once gave Jameis a goldfish in a bowl and he loved it and he took it home. I’d love to get an update on how that goldfish is doing.” – Dave Dameshek ([02:09])
  • Conversation spins into the odd career arc of Winston—seen widely as a bust but remaining a fan-favorite journeyman.

3. Steelers, Rodgers, and Preseason Takeaways

• Steelers Chat & Rodgers Age Limitations
  • Despite meaningless preseason outcomes, Dameshek is bullish on Steelers’ defense but cautious about Rodgers’ longevity:
    • “Once the real thing gets going here, I think the defense is going to dominate... If you’re anticipating Aaron Rodgers to be the positive difference maker that gets the Steelers over the hump, I think you’re being overly optimistic.” – Dave Dameshek ([03:42])
  • The hosts jest about how much (or little) you should take away from preseason performances ([04:34]).

4. The Bears, Lions, and Coaching Changes

• Caleb Williams & NFC North Shifts
  • Dameshek debates whether he regrets leaving the Bears out of playoff predictions, referencing how Ben Johnson’s departure from Detroit to a division rival could tip the balance ([05:22]).
  • Hawk is impressed with Caleb Williams’ debut:
    • “He seemed decisive... he doesn’t seem like he’s guessing.” – Hawk ([05:27])
  • Both note how coaching and O-line changes for Detroit could precipitate a slow decline, drawing parallels to the Eagles losing their coordinators ([06:25]).

5. Indianapolis Colts Outlook

• Richardson, Lou Anarumo & Optimism
  • Despite speculation about Anthony Richardson, Dameshek warns against prematurely labeling him a bust, pointing to historic comebacks and young age.
    • “You don’t need to throw dirt on him just yet.” – Dave Dameshek ([07:21])
  • He predicts defensive improvement and likes the Colts’ potential in a weak division with Anarumo now on staff ([08:20]).

6. Miami Dolphins: Boom or Bust?

• Dan’s Local Spin—No Middle Ground
  • Dan frames the Dolphins as an extreme-outcome team: either high-flying contenders or hot-mess disasters.
    • “I don’t think there’s a middle ground there.” – Dan Le Batard ([08:20])
  • Dameshek traces their recent history and pinpoints a crucial Monday night loss against the Titans as an era-defining moment ([08:49]).

7. The League of Leagues: Multi-Sport Fantasy Insanity

• Dameshek’s Wild Idea
  • Dameshek describes his experience in a “League of Leagues”—a fantasy league spanning NFL, MLB, and NBA, and brainstorms a mega-version where cities can trade assets across teams.
    • “Wouldn’t it be nice if I could float the idea of maybe Paul Skenes to you guys? What’s the city of Miami willing to give back to Pittsburgh in exchange for the greatest asset in Major League Baseball?” – Dave Dameshek ([11:02])
  • The crew riffs on what Miami would offer for LeBron James, triggering a playful segment of cross-sport mega-trades ([19:49]–[22:55]).

8. Who Is America’s Team?

• Annual Title Revisited
  • Dameshek questions the perpetual “America’s Team” status:
    • “If we can have a new American Idol every year, I think we can have a new America’s Team every year.” – Dave Dameshek ([16:28])
  • Hawk vouches for the Browns—perennially discussed despite failure.
    • “What team gets talked about more consistently on a year to year basis with less on-field success?” – Hawk ([17:26])
  • The panel explores why certain teams draw disproportionate attention.

9. Jerry Jones, Micah Parsons, and Contract Standoffs

• Cowboys’ Dysfunctional Negotiations
  • A clip of Jerry Jones discussing Parsons' contract leads to sharp player-side analysis.
  • Hawk criticizes Jones’ old-school, agent-skirting negotiating style:
    • “That is not how business works... and that’s why it is an issue. When players do [stand strong], Jerry loses the deal.” – Hawk ([24:43])
  • Dameshek notes the “stink” that follows the Cowboys’ contract battles, affecting their future attraction for star players ([26:28]).
  • The panel debates whether Parsons should or will skip games, agreeing the leverage is squarely with the player:
    • “Michael Parsons can sit out the entire season and somebody will pay him... that’s where the leverage point of Jerry Jones is. Like, you have none.” – Hawk ([30:26])

10. Multi-Sport Trade Hypotheticals (Extended Bit)

• Hilarious City Trade Proposals
  • Miami tries to trade for LeBron; Pittsburgh seeks Messi. Heated, tongue-in-cheek negotiation ensues, with each side overvaluing its legends ([19:49]–[29:07]).
  • “I’m not going to indulge this talk about dealing away 87 [Crosby], not in the twilight of his singular career.” – Dameshek ([29:19])

11. Two-Way Players in the Modern NFL: Travis Hunter

• Deion-Style Ironmen: A Reality?
  • Dan and Dameshek debate whether Travis Hunter can play both offense and defense at the NFL level.
    • “What gets in the way is people who throw up roadblocks... For decades, people said you couldn’t have a running QB—and then Michael Vick made the scene.” – Dave Dameshek ([37:22])
  • Hawk provides the player perspective:
    • “Do I think he has the ability to play both sides of the ball? Absolutely. That’s not the question... But he won’t be the best version of either one doing both.” – Hawk ([39:36])
  • Both physical and mental tolls are discussed—Hunter could do it, but would necessarily lose his maximum potential in one or both roles.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Preseason football is the OG AI. I mean, it’s just all fake nonsense. None of it matters.”
  – Dave Dameshek ([03:42])

• “What team gets talked about more consistently on a year to year basis with less on field success?”
  – Hawk, on the Browns as America’s Team ([17:26])

• “He seemed decisive... he doesn’t seem like he’s guessing.”
  – Hawk, on Caleb Williams ([05:27])

• “That is not how business works… It’s a very old school and archaic way of doing business. And it’s not good business, it’s bad business.”
  – Hawk, on Jerry Jones’ player negotiations ([24:43])

• “If we can have a new American Idol every year, I think we can have a new America’s Team every year.”
  – Dave Dameshek ([16:28])

• “You don’t need to throw dirt on him just yet.”
  – Dave Dameshek, on Anthony Richardson ([07:21])

• “He [Jerry] waits to the last second… and then not only does he lose the deal but has a disgruntled player.”
  – Hawk ([24:43])

• “What’s the city of Miami willing to give back to the city of Pittsburgh in exchange for the greatest asset in Major League Baseball?”
  – Dave Dameshek, on Paul Skenes ([11:02])

• “I don’t think there’s a middle ground [for the Dolphins].”
  – Dan Le Batard ([08:20])

• “Travis Hunter won’t be the best version of either one [position] by doing both… Not a bad thing, not a good thing. It’s just a reality.”
  – Hawk ([39:36])

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Segment Timestamps

• Opening Jokes & Preseason Football: [00:02] – [01:43]
• Jameis Winston & NFL Honors Anecdote: [02:09] – [02:56]
• Steelers, Rodgers, and Preseason Perspective: [03:34] – [04:34]
• Bears/Lions Coaching Impact: [05:22] – [07:14]
• Colts Discussion: [07:14] – [08:20]
• Dolphins Local Take: [08:20] – [10:09]
• League of Leagues & City Trade Concept: [10:09] – [12:40]
• America’s Team Debate: [16:28] – [19:45]
• City Trade Negotiations: [19:49] – [22:55]
• Jerry Jones & Micah Parsons Drama: [23:09] – [36:24]
• Two-Way Players: Travis Hunter: [37:09] – [43:15]

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Tone & Takeaways

True to form, the show is irreverent, fast-paced, and layered with football knowledge and playful banter. Dameshek brings historical analogies and sharp takes, while Hawk offers vital player perspective. The segment on multi-sport fantasy and city-wide trades provides a comedic, yet surprisingly thought-provoking, break from straight sports talk. The episode expertly combines inside stories, league-wide context, and off-script hypotheticals, making it a must-listen for NFL fans and curious outsiders alike.

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Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings.

[Dave Dameshek]

Why are you listening to this show.

[Dan Le Batard]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Dave Dameshek]

I'm sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dave Dameshek]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Dan Le Batard]

I have been tempted in restaurants just.

[Dave Dameshek]

Walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Hawk]

I've done it.

[Dan Le Batard]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar. Today's episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours. We got football last night. We had a couple preseason games. We got a bunch of football tomorrow. Dolphins home preseason game. First and only home preseason game. Oh, my God. You're out there. You're. When you were playing Hawk, when you were playing the preseason, did you ever. Did you ever look up and stands like, man, these suckers, they love football so much?

[Hawk]

Not a single time.

[Dave Dameshek]

Why are you here? It's the fourth, it's the third preseason game.

[Hawk]

Not one iota of a second did I ever look up and be like, man, these are real love, real life ball lovers up there. No, never. I was told, you know, I was too focused on, like, trying not to be sent home to live with my mom. Preseason was always a. I never had, like, the preseasons where like, oh, this doesn't matter. It was the.

[Dave Dameshek]

Like, you were in sweats and, like, a shirt. Do you never had those preseasons?

[Hawk]

No, man. I always like even the moments where it was like, oh, you're a veteran. I had to act like I didn't care, like I didn't know the lane for me to get cut and be sent home. So it was always a very important game. There was always 18 game seasons for your boy. It was every one of them.

[Dan Le Batard]

So Dolphins tomorrow. Dolphins are hosting the Jaguars, but we got a lot of games. All right. And this season, new Metalark Media, Football America. And of course, our pal is Dave Damek. You got a new episode of Football America today. And then one season starts. Here you go. We're doing Mondays and we're doing Fridays. We're recapping the week of games. We're setting you up for the week of games. Dave, how you doing? Good to see you.

[Dave Dameshek]

I'm doing well. I got a belly full of Thai food and I'm ready to talk football. Let's jump into it, shall we? I heard you guys talking about Jameis Winston. Fun anecdote a few years back at NFL honors on the red carpet. I used to give inconvenient gifts to guys as they would walk into honors to have to carry around a 36 pack, a double roll, toilet paper and giant balloons and a cello and a chandelier and everything else. I once gave Jamis a goldfish in a bowl and he loved it and he took it home. I'd love to get an update on how that goldfish is doing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Just taking care of the goldfish in the bowl for the rest of the night.

[Hawk]

I can almost guarantee he didn't. That goldfish didn't make it out that weekend. You know, I've had a beta fish.

[Dave Dameshek]

For like a year and a half.

[Dan Le Batard]

Really? Beta fishes don't normally last that long.

[Dave Dameshek]

Me, my wife, like we're expected it to go anytime now.

[Hawk]

Yeah.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah. But we're still doing it. Look at us.

[Dan Le Batard]

Good first fish for a little kid. Yeah, that's a good job out of you there, Dave. Can you remember a scenario like this with Jameis Winston, number one overall pick? I mean, by all accounts he was a bust and yet is still so popular everywhere he goes.

[Dave Dameshek]

I was trying to think if there's any comparison to it, and I really can't come up with one. I mean, here's a bad answer for you, but Todd Blackledge is now, decades and decades later, still broadcasting big time football games. And he was a gigantic bust for the Chiefs in the draft. That of course included Dan Marino, among others.

[Dan Le Batard]

How you feeling about your Steelers Last night obviously beat the Panthers. Who cares? But. And we haven't seen Aaron Rodgers yet. How you feeling?

[Dave Dameshek]

Listen, you know, we've been over it. Preseason football is the OG AI. I mean, it's just all fake nonsense. None of it matters. Once the real thing gets going here, I think the defense is going to dominate. I really do think that they're built to do that. I think it all comes down to the offensive line. Aaron Rodgers is a first ballot hall of Famer, obviously, but he's 41 also, and so he is not the. The Tom Brady and Peyton Manning and Drew Brees have set a weird level of expectation for guys that depend upon athleticism. And Aaron Rodgers is one of those guys and his ability to move the way he did in his prime no longer exists. So if you're anticipating Aaron Rodgers to be the positive difference maker that gets the Steelers over the hump, I think you're being overly optimistic.

[Dan Le Batard]

Has anything. Yes, it's preseason football, of course, but has anything stood out to you as a bit of a surprise These first.

[Dave Dameshek]

Few weeks, I really do try to turn away because it is a month long. Live for your eyes. What you see. What I do anticipate though is that the Bears are going to be, you know, spoiler alert. Like you mentioned, we have Jeff Schwartz on Football America today. We're going to seed both conferences one through seven and I did not have the Bears. That's the one thing I'll say. I don't have the Bears in the mix and I'm already sort of Devil's Damage checking that decision. I don't know if maybe I should have put Caleb in there. I am. I really do love the robbing Peter to pay Paul effect of taking Ben Johnson away from the Lions and putting them on a division foe. I do think that that could actually tilt that whole division.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hawk, did you care for Caleb Williams performance in his debut last week? I think he's going to be really good.

[Hawk]

I think he looked good, man. I think. I think the way he was making decisions, he seemed decisive. You can tell he was going through a process. Like when I like judge a coach, I look at the players and I say, okay, can I find the thing that they're harping on? And when you watch that offense in those first couple of drives, like he's making big throws down the middle, but watch the old line, watch how they like after the play is thrown, they're chasing the ball, going to get set. There's a tempo to him, the receivers. The quarterback seems like he's in control. He doesn't seem like he's guessing. He's saying, okay, I'm making this decision, I'm making this play onto the next that comes from coaching. So, yeah, I absolutely loved what I saw. He still had a couple of moments. I remember, I think on the like, you know, off script through to a running back where he almost got him murdered on the field. But if he can continue to eliminate those. I saw a track where there was progress from what we saw a year ago. Which means to me, the Lions are going to have trouble without Ben Johnson early on. And how they kind of respond to that will. Will determine, you know, what their ceiling.

[Dave Dameshek]

Looks like, how, I mean, and practically too, by the way, fellas, you know, 40% of their offensive line is gone. That's bad for a team that is predicated on beating the crap out of teams. I mean, that's not a small matter to lose both coordinators, really the. The analog to me is, to use a fancy word, is the Philadelphia Eagles, who everybody is trying to mimic if you don't have the superhero quarterback, you try and offset that, but you know, by. By physical ball and all that. And that's what the. And what. That's what the Eagles have done in two Super Bowls out of the last three. The Lions are a year or two behind where the Eagles are. Remember what happened to them in between those two super bowl runs, which was they lost both of their coordinators. And it wasn't like in week one. They immediately fell off a cliff. It was a gentle slide over the course of four months. I think that's what's going to happen to the Lions.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dave, what do you make of Indianapolis right now? Anthony Richardson? I mean, he's got. He's got to be done in Indianapolis, right?

[Dave Dameshek]

I guess he's done, but you know, we can't. You're talking about all these busts who then reemerge as halfway decent. And I guess that list starts with Jim Plunkett and you have Alex Smith this millennium. And so I don't think necessarily what is Anthony Richardson at this point? I'm going to guess 23 years old. I don't think you need to throw dirt on him just yet. I like the Colts, though. I know that that's crazy, but I think Lou Annarumo didn't get enough buzz in Cincy because it's not like it was a dominant defense on the other side for Joe Burrow and company to lean on. But it was good and it was relevant enough that they went to that one Super Bowl. It just about got to a second one. Both going through Arrowhead. Now he goes over to Indy and I just invoked the Eagles. Vic Fangio's effect on the Eagles defense a year ago. I wouldn't be stunned if the Colts are sort of a poor man's version of that. With Ann Arumo now taking over the defense, plus Jonathan Taylor, they can beat you up a little bit running the ball in a relatively soft AFC South. I like the Colts. Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'm going to take. I'm going to take a local spin here. All right. I'm going to be very. I'm going to. I'm going to selfishly ask you about the Dolphins, Dave. The Dolphins. To me, I don't think there's a middle ground I could see. You know what, maybe there could be like an 11 win team, things go right, offense gets back on track. Big time pass rush or big time cannon for hot mess team like four. Yes. I don't think there's a middle ground there. What do you make of that, I.

[Dave Dameshek]

Think that there are teams every year that sort of fit that description. And yes, where it seems, where McDaniel is in this experience, that the spiral effect could take over there. You're. I completely agree. We talked about it zaz previously. You know, the idea that, that the Dolphins have no shot this year requires that you have amnesia from what happened two years ago, last year. Kind of with the whole, you know, TUA and the fencing all again and Tyree Killing and Jalen Watt, all the injuries on the defense. Once again, I think you just skip past what happened last year and Instead focus on two years ago. The critical game in the McDaniel era. I don't want to get hyperbolic, but the critical game was that Monday night game against the Tennessee Titans. If they would have just held on in that game, they win the east that year, then they don't have to go to Arrowhead where it was minus 200 degrees that night. And so they had no shot when they took the field for that one. Things feel very different. If they beat the Steelers, they probably host Pittsburgh in the wild card round with a division crown. They probably beat Pittsburgh in that one. And then we regard Mike McDaniel and two and all the rest of it very differently than. Than we do right now. Of course, the reality is the reality. Hey, is Chris in there? I wanted to give him a shout out. I'm here. Great idea.

[Hawk]

Don't do that.

[Dave Dameshek]

Or was it Billy? I forget who it was. Was talking about making trades in fantasy.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, Billy.

[Dave Dameshek]

I think here I was in a league a couple of years ago, thought it was me. It was. It was the league of leagues and you could. It was a fantasy league. It was NFL, it was Major League Baseball and it was NBA. I'm going to throw it out here right now. Let's do a whole network, one of these and you can trade. And in fact, to inspire it, you guys in Miami, I'm, you know, I'm a Pittsburgh fan, I'm in la. But what if you had a general manager not just for your one team in the city, but for all the teams in the city so that we could really open things up. Wouldn't it be nice if I could float the idea of maybe Paul Schemes to you guys? What's the city of Miami willing to give back to the city of Pittsburgh in exchange for the greatest asset in Major League Baseball?

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, hold on a second. All right, because there was a lot that you just threw out.

[Hawk]

You threw a lot. Yeah, hold on a second.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's go. Back to beginning there. You were in a league where it's multiple leagues that are in the league.

[Hawk]

Multiple sports.

[Dan Le Batard]

Multiple sports that are in the league.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yes. League of leagues. And yeah, it was dynamite stuff. And the best part was the draft because you're kind of like, do I go, kevin Durant here, or do I go, you know, you know, Shoehe Ohtani and those sorts of debates or Jamar Chase. Yeah, that kind of stuff is the best stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

In training with this idea, like a.

[Dave Dameshek]

Year ago, I had this idea of, like, trading teams and cities and trading players. Like, all right, Kansas City, we'll send you Sandy Alcantara and whatever other players we have for the. For the baseball team, but you send.

[Mike Ryan]

Us back Patrick Mahomes, who's a gm.

[Dave Dameshek]

Inner City Trades is what I call.

[Mike Ryan]

Who's the gm.

[Dave Dameshek]

The South Florida would be Bill Zito for all.

[Mike Ryan]

We're not letting Riley ruin this one.

[Hawk]

This.

[Mike Ryan]

This one.

[Dave Dameshek]

Right.

[Mike Ryan]

It's got to be Bill Zito, not Chris Greer.

[Dave Dameshek]

No. Well, I'm taking. I assume Hawk gets all of the state of Ohio. Is that right? I'm sorry, Hawk. I'm going to claim western Pennsylvania. I know you would like.

[Hawk]

Yeah, you can have it. It's o. I am also from western Pennsylvania.

[Dave Dameshek]

I know, I know. But you wore that nice Alouette uniform. But more importantly, you wore both orange hats.

[Hawk]

As long as we established that I'm also from western Pennsylvania, along with. You went to the same high school as Jack Ham. Who. I know you know who Jack Ham is. I don't know if everyone here knows who Jackham is.

[Dave Dameshek]

That John's brother.

[Hawk]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave Dameshek]

People don't know who 59 is the Hammer. They don't know who.

[Hawk]

They don't know. They don't know. Dave.

[Dave Dameshek]

One of the great OLBs in. In football history.

[Hawk]

You know what? It's. That's. They're not real ball knowers like you, Dave. And speaking of John Ham, weren't you in the Jon Ham fantasy league where you guys kicked the guy out on draft?

[Dave Dameshek]

I still am. And the draft is. Is upcoming.

[Hawk]

That's my favorite story.

[Dave Dameshek]

Everybody's on pins and needles right now.

[Hawk]

My favorite draft rule that I've ever heard is that when you guys tell that story like no one knows who's going to get kicked out the day of the draft. You guys know this.

[Dave Dameshek]

We did it a couple weeks ago with Dave.

[Hawk]

Dang. Sorry, guys. I don't have so much fun when.

[Dave Dameshek]

Your head's on Hawk. It's. My head's on the chopping block. And I can assure you that it is not fun.

[Hawk]

It's not fun.

[Dave Dameshek]

I hope you sound scary in that seat. I once saw Jack Ham. My sister Amy and I saw Jack Ham at a Penguins game and we said, oh, we got to go get his autograph. We were little kids and we went over to him and said, hey, big fan, Mr. Ham, can we get your autograph? And he said, sure thing. And they went like, went like. And he went like, sorry, your pen doesn't work. And that was my Jack Hammond experience. That was my Jackham. Did he like try to shake the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Pen a little bit? He's like, you got to put the tip on your tongue. Maybe you try and get the ink going like that, right?

[Dave Dameshek]

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[Dave Dameshek]

Bring his ass on here. Where's the mother?

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Hawk]

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[Dave Dameshek]

Hawk, I start with you. This is a, this is a question that, that we're gonna dip into a little bit. And in fact, I heard you guys on the show the other day talking about this, the idea of America's team. Now, of course, from a marketing perspective, the Dallas Cowboys pounced on that decades ago after the Pittsburgh Steelers, Dan Rooney said, do you want to be America's team? I think it was an NFL, NFL Films concoction. Yeah. And they said to the Rooneys, do you want this? He said, no, no, we're not America's team. We're Pittsburgh's team. That's right. That's what he said. Black and gold over red, white and blue. All right, but okay, the Cowboys had no dignity and they embraced it and so now they still claim it. But if we can have a new American Idol every year, I think we can have a new America's team every year. I think we should vote on it every year. Hawk. I mean, are the Browns in the running for that? Would you float them as an option?

[Hawk]

I would float the Browns as an option. Now, look, I don't know how you would determine America's team on a year to year basis outside of the Super Bowl. Right. That feels like the easiest way to determine it. But if it's going to be a delineation between that and how we're determining who America's team is, I would say the Browns are in that running. Here would be my argument, Dave, because what team gets talked about more consistently on a year to year basis with less on field success? Like most teams in that size market with that lack of success never get talked about. But routinely, the Browns are a topic year in, year out, damn near weekend and week out.

[Dave Dameshek]

This is more of the guys they bring in, though. Like they brought in, Johnny Manziel they.

[Hawk]

Bring in is, I'm telling you, and Sean Watson, of course, but still, it's still crazy. Even when they were losing like 1 in 15, 0 and 16.

[Dan Le Batard]

I think you're right.

[Hawk]

It was continual, like it's continual coverage.

[Dave Dameshek]

Hasm likes the guy, he likes the you know, let's take a chance on this guy.

[Hawk]

And then it's even before Haslam. I'm telling you.

[Dave Dameshek]

I think it's also, I would suggest Hawk. Why is that? Is because they are. They are generally pretty dreadful, sincerely. They're usually so bad that they draft high. So they're relevant because you talk about them all spring. Who are the Browns going to take? First overall. They have the third overall pick. They are. You know, they're always in the mix, so you're always buzzing, and then you have the lag of four months after they're drafted. How's this guy going to do? Is he going to erase the curse? Spoiler alert. He's not going to erase. He didn't.

[Hawk]

Whoever you're talking about, didn't do it. But my point, Dave, is there's other dreadful organizations and teams with the same level, if not, like, more lack of success than the Browns over the last 20 years. But the story, the lore of, like, Cleveland being one of those, like, football towns. Paul Brown comes from there. He gets sent over to Cincinnati, starts a new franchise. They take their team and go to Baltimore. It's like people empathize with Cleveland so much that if they ever did become, like, perennially successful, everyone would be on that train.

[Dan Le Batard]

We have a breaking news here, Mike, what do we got?

[Mike Ryan]

We have a formal trade proposal from South Florida to Los Angeles to bring back LeBron James.

[Dan Le Batard]

Whoa, Dave. Whoa.

[Dave Dameshek]

So not news at all. Okay, I'm in la, but I am not the ambassador. I am not the general manager for la. I know it's confusing. I am the general manager of the banks. Not right now.

[Mike Ryan]

Right now, you're running la.

[Dave Dameshek]

Okay, wait. What do we have to get to get.

[Hawk]

Wait. If this is all about, like, your area and you're in la, why would you be the Pittsburgh gm? You're literally as far away from Pittsburgh.

[Dave Dameshek]

Sounds like PAC wants Pittsburgh.

[Hawk]

Yeah, you want.

[Dave Dameshek]

Sounds like. Yeah. And Hog trying to talk about how he's Mr. Cleveland and Mr. Pittsburgh while he sits in South Beach. I mean, what are we talking about friend now?

[Hawk]

Okay, you should flip a coin or something.

[Dave Dameshek]

Don't get me angry. He's trying to see. This is.

[Hawk]

He's trying a really good franchise.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, LeBron James.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's throw in Austin Reeves, too.

[Hawk]

Okay, I like that.

[Mike Ryan]

And Ricky Poosh from the LA Galaxy.

[Dan Le Batard]

I'll know that, fool.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, he's really.

[Dave Dameshek]

I think I've got the perfect answer for you. I think. Easy peasy.

[Mike Ryan]

4 Tyreek Hill, Sandy Alcantara, Andrew Wiggins, That's a hole. Evan Rodriguez, we're giving up too much. And Manu.

[Dave Dameshek]

Oh, wow, Seth, the Cyclone.

[Mike Ryan]

You guys don't know how good Ricky Pooch is.

[Dave Dameshek]

Best backorder in the league.

[Hawk]

Manu.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is very interesting because also the Evan Rodriguez departure clears up money for the Panthers, which is going to be needed when Matthew Tkachuk comes off long term ir. Dave, your thoughts?

[Dave Dameshek]

Evan Rodriguez, middle sixer. We can survive without him here on the Kings. We do not claim the Ducks here. No one pays attention to the Ducks in Southern California. So I'm going to make LA's hockey team. I don't want to play fast and loose with this very important game we're playing here. And I am not going to claim Orange county teams here. I like it. You could go. I love the deal. It's a haul. I think you're trying to overwhelm me with a bunch of names. Easy peasy.

[Hawk]

To.

[Dave Dameshek]

To the Rams is the answer because we don't know what's going to be with Stafford. You get the. You got to throw someone else in. If you're throwing two in there, you got to throw someone else in.

[Dan Le Batard]

Work.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you want to replace Tyree? He wants to.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, he wants to. LeBron. I want to.

[Hawk]

Straight up.

[Dave Dameshek]

And Tyreek Tua and Tyreek. Whoa, that's too much. That's too much for LeBron. And Austin Reed, bronze 41.

[Mike Ryan]

Wait, Miami does this? I think to bring LeBron back.

[Dave Dameshek]

You wouldn't purge the TUA contract. Obviously you would. I can't believe I'm already getting this angry about this. Wow.

[Mike Ryan]

Tua for LeBron. Stafford throwing Safford.

[Dave Dameshek]

Okay, okay. You get the. You get the over the hill game. I don't think Rams fans are going to be happy with me negotiating on their behalf, but yes, it does make sense to me.

[Hawk]

We'll give you a room.

[Dave Dameshek]

One more year. Stafford's got one more year. This is a. This is a good deal. Also, Sandy's gonna be like the number four on the Dodgers.

[Mike Ryan]

You get. You get Rosier to make the cap work.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah. You got to take him. Do what you want with him, but you got to take Rogier. All right. It sounds like we got something cooking there. Dave. Dave, I want to play something for you here. So I'm not sure if you're aware, but in Dallas there is a contract situation going on right now.

[Dave Dameshek]

I heard about this.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Maka with Micah Parsons and so Jerry Jones yesterday. Hawk, I don't know if you heard this yet, so Jerry Jones appeared yesterday on Michael Irvin's. I think it's. I think it's a YouTube channel. YouTube show. And Jerry Jones appeared on the show with Michael Irvin. And give this a listen here. This is Jerry explaining the details of what's going on with Michael Parsons.

[Dave Dameshek]

I really wanted to send the details to the agent the agent sold us to stick it up our ass.

[Hawk]

Oh, oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

[Dave Dameshek]

Now, see, I was just. So you're clear.

[Hawk]

Wait, wait, wait. What do you mean?

[Dave Dameshek]

So.

[Hawk]

So wait.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, Mike and I talk. And then we were going to send it over to the agent, and we had our agreements on term amount guarantees, everything. We were going to send it over to the agent, and the agent said, don't bother because we've got all that to negotiate. Well, I'd already negotiated. I'd already moved off my mark on several areas. And so the issue, very frankly, is we've had the negotiation. In my mind.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hawk, you want to go first as a former player.

[Hawk]

Yeah, they, they.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jerry is saying that. Not just that, like he threw a number at Micah, he's saying they negotiated him in the player, which is weird because the player has representation for a reason. But they, they negotiated and then they sent over the terms to the agent, who is David Mulaguetta. And Jerry claims that Mulaguetta told him to stick it up his ass.

[Hawk]

Yeah, that's what the agent should have told him because that's. I mean, just being honest for a second, that's such bullshit. Like, that is not how business works. And that is not why Micah is paying his agent in the first place. Right. Because now if you're gonna negotiate the contract directly with him without telling his agent, you should also pay back the 3% that he's given to his agent on top of whatever it is, add that 3% into the contract on a guaranteed basis in year one, or whatever the hell it is. It's just a. It's a very old school and archaic way of doing business. And it's not good business, it's bad business. And I think that's Jerry's problem, is that he's stuck in this era where it's almost a zero sum game. Either I win or you win, or me showing my dominance in a deal is what makes me a good business person as opposed to it being a deal that we both feel good about so much. So at the end of three years, we want to go back into business together. And he alienates these star players and he drags it out because he feels like he has to be the dominant one in the deal when the reality is he loses every damn deal he does because he waits to the last second in this hope of like, well, maybe they're going to approach this like it's still 1972. And David Mulaguetta, who I have no connection to, don't know him personally except for he represents some of the biggest names in all of professional football. Obviously that's not going to fly with him because he's seasoned in this area. So that's Jerry's problem, and that's why it is an issue. And I hope they stick to their guns on it, because most times when players do, Jerry loses the deal. And then not only does he lose the deal from a terms perspective, he also has a disgruntled player who then approaches the organization a lot differently because they don't want to reward them for what they've put in the first three or four years of that contract.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, it feels like the Cowboys because of Jer and company now have a certain stink on them. And it then is bad for the organization going forward because, you know, this sort of modeling with a guy who is a franchise player who should be there locked up for the next decade or more. Now, that bad experience. Now, other free agents, I assume, does that. I have a question about all that to get to the end of the story here. Hawk, very quickly though, back to the GM hat. Paul Skeens for Micah Parsons, Jason Robertson, CD Lamb, and Dak Prescott. What a haul, right?

[Hawk]

Yeah, it's not bad.

[Dave Dameshek]

You gotta make that deal, though. You still gotta make that deal if you're Dallas, right? Organizador de viajes de expedia. Vivies paratenerto propio opinions obre la Rena.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dave Dameshek]

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[Hawk]

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[Dave Dameshek]

World War Three stugats. We're gonna get that off the ground.

[Mike Ryan]

World War three Colon. Our group chat has a pretty good feeling about this one.

[Hawk]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stug.

[Mike Ryan]

Pittsburgh contingent. Should pump the brakes on making any deal until they hear the formal offer.

[Dave Dameshek]

Whoa.

[Mike Ryan]

From team Miami.

[Hawk]

Yeah.

[Dave Dameshek]

Oh, okay. Well, I mean, we're out there now. We're. Listen, there's no. Because we're in a negotiation doesn't mean. Who's the gm, though? Is it Hawker well, you can both.

[Mike Ryan]

Weigh in on this.

[Dave Dameshek]

Pittsburgh.

[Mike Ryan]

Here's Pittsburgh. Here's what we want. We want Sidney Crosby and we want Mike Tomlin.

[Dave Dameshek]

I mean, that we're not getting away.

[Mike Ryan]

Here's the offer. You're going to want to hear this offer.

[Dave Dameshek]

We.

[Mike Ryan]

For Messi.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, I. We have no interest.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you mean the Riverhounds become major league right away?

[Dave Dameshek]

Well, listen, I know that. I know that there would be no way that he would. That the plan would be allowed to land in down near Miami with Roy there standing in the way. He would get out on the Runway and not allow 87's plan to hit. Hit soil there in the. In the Sunshine State. So it's a non starter.

[Hawk]

I like. I like Messi and what he does to the economy in Western Pennsylvania.

[Mike Ryan]

Send Messi to.

[Dave Dameshek]

Isn't he 42?

[Hawk]

I mean, what, 39? It's the same deal that Miami signed with him. Like, hey, we just need you as a mascot.

[Dave Dameshek]

Crosby's old.

[Hawk]

It's not like you got to give you billions you got.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not like these are young bucks. Mike Tomlin and Sidney Crosby, they're at the end of their run over in Pittsburgh. You get Messi and you become a Major League Soccer town for, you know, a couple of years. This is huge for the river.

[Dave Dameshek]

We'll throw in Otto Lopez. Somebody turn off. Somebody turn off Mike's mic. Because, I mean, this is. I'm not going to indulge this talk about dealing away 87, not in the twilight of his. His singular career.

[Hawk]

You can keep him.

[Dave Dameshek]

You can keep him. All right, we'll throw SPO in, but he can do any sport you want because you guys don't have basketball. Hey, Pitt, Panthers, you're getting an upgrade. Hey, but Hawk, jump to the end for the fans, because I think this is the funny thing. There's always. I think it's human beings we understand. I think most of us will side with the. With the proletariat over the bourgeoisie, even if it is multimillionaires in the proletariat that we're talking about here. But as the football season is nigh and now that we can see it out on the near horizon, fans start to turn and they worry about what their team is going to do once the thing kicks off here. Is Micah Parsons really going to skip the games? Do you think it's conceivable that he doesn't. He's not in uniform in week one? Because, you know, I think that it looks to me like he's not going to be in uniform.

[Hawk]

Yeah, I don't think he will and I don't think he should be. There's nothing to prove for Micah Parsons. Michael Parsons can sit out the entire season and somebody will pay him because we know exactly what he is as a player. And there's. We know he's not even close to reaching his full potential. And that's the scary part about Michael Parsons. Because he's so talented and he is still ascending as a player, there's no value to him suiting up in week one and risking getting hurt again. Especially for a team whose success so hinges upon him being who he is. Right. That's where the leverage point of Jerry Jones is. Like you have none. Because there are players that are worse than Micah that have signed the highest paid player in the NFL absent of being a quarterback. And we know that's where Micah's trajectory is. We know that is the contract he is going to sign what he deserves. And you should go out of your way to try to work this out and not try to get a discount on that because the precedent has been set.

[Dave Dameshek]

But the leverage is. You say he, Jerry doesn't have any leverage. Micah is young. But look at a recent hold out hold in with Cam Hayward and now he's shown up at Steelers camp and it seems like they're, they're going to move forward. They're. The leverage is your career is very limited, how many years you're getting to be out there. Cam Hayward has maybe one or two years left. Micah Parsons has a decade probably. But still, that is the, that is the inherent leverage you would think is like, you really going to waste a season of your career, man, you really going to sit out a prime year of your deal. And I think it's a little bit different. You talk about 1972. Yeah, the rhetoric was always hawk when you were playing. It was like, oh, a player misses a season, he'll never be the same again. If you sat a season, you just, you got to be in football all the time or else you just lose something from it. I don't think that's true anymore. I think there are a number of examples of guys sitting out years and coming back and being fine and maybe even refreshed. So I think Micah Parsons could sit out the season. The leverage is for. What it matters is that the America's alleged team's sizable fan base really villainizing, demonizing Micah Parsons for not showing up. That's what I'm getting at. Like this season, people Like, Micah, you're ruining it. This offense is the greatest, and we need you out there, and we could maybe make some hay in the NFC east, but you're not there, and you're being selfish.

[Hawk]

And I think. I think where it helps Micah is that selfish is the norm in Dallas. Like to go on a podcast and say crazy stuff is what you're used to with the Dallas Cowboys. It's different with Le'Veon Bale. Pittsburgh isn't used to having bad headlines with their organization or people being disgruntled with the Rooneys or anybody there. So it was like a. He turned his whole fan base who loved him because he was a part of their organization against him because it was so against what they're used to. Dallas is different. Like, no one is going to cry for Jerry Jones because Micah Parsons takes them. Take the players.

[Dave Dameshek]

Right. That's. I mean, even the thing that undid Levy and Bell, the thing that ruined the situation. Levy and Bell had every intention of coming back to the team in week three or at latest, week eight or nine. And I know a lot of the stuff that was going on week to week in that situation, he was what. What really made him raw was the team saying stuff. Guys in the locker room like, well, Levy and should be here and all of that. And that's what hurt his feelings. I don't know if the Cowboys players.

[Hawk]

No, absolutely not. They're going to be like, man, I'm glad somebody did it. Yeah. I went through the same thing. I know, exactly. Because CD Understands. Zach Martin understands, Dak Prescott understands, because he does this every year. And it's like, well, Micah has the most leverage out of all of them, in my opinion. Right. So, yeah, I don't think he'll lose anything by losing games, like, as far as public perception or in the locker room.

[Dan Le Batard]

Let me play the other side for a moment here. Jerry should not be negotiating with players without their representation, obviously. Like, it's a dirty move. He's trying to trick Michael Parsons if you're doing that. Like, I remember Bill Parcells pulled that one time. Was it with Ricky Williams, maybe here in Miami? Parcells slid the, you know, napkin with an offer to Ricky. What are you doing? You got to talk to his agents, you know, so it's. It's a dirty move, and Jerry knows that. But Jerry's making it sound like he and Micah negotiated that. They talked about a bunch of different things, and that part, to me, is weird. Like, I can understand Jerry trying to make an offer, and Micah's like, yeah, that sounds good. Talk to my agent. But Jerry is making it sound like they sat down and negotiated things, and then he sent the paperwork to the agent who told him to stick it up his ass. And now Jerry refuses to talk to the agent because it's like he's essentially trying to son him, where it's like, no, this is already done. Because there was a comment on the screen up here. It's right there. Look. There's only three entities involved in the Micah Parsons deal that really count. This is from Jerry Jones, Micah me. And sitting out there by a mile back is that agent. So he's clearly. He clearly does not want to have any kind of business dealings with this agent. What do you do now?

[Hawk]

Yeah, and then you're going to miss game. And it's, screw Jerry Jones if I'm the agent. If I'm Micah. Like, that is not how business is done. It is predatory, and everybody understands it's predatory. And again, it's. This is 1970 where you can get that kind of dumb shit off. Like, you purposely are going into it that way. Micah Parsons is not an agent. He has not had enough life experience to negotiate the best deal he possibly can. Even if you thought it was a negotiation. Because the reason why I have an agent, the reason why I have a financial advisor, the reason why I have a realtor, and so I could just be like, yeah, that sounds good. Talk to them, right? Like, I'm getting rid of it. Otherwise I wouldn't be paying them to do that service in the first place. I'm off put. I'm. I'm offloading it to a person who is an expert, and I'm willing to pay what comes with that, because I want to just focus on getting sex.

[Dave Dameshek]

Well, you know, Dan talked about this earlier in the week, and. And I kind of sort of agree with him, or at least float the question. Is Jerry Jones the face of the NFL? And, you know, you talk about leverage, and is it more important for Jerry to maintain his spot, his perch? Or is it the reverse of what I mentioned a second ago about Cam Hayward at the tail end of his career? Jerry Jones is at the tail end of his career, at least. I mean, how desperate is he to make this work? Because if Micah Parsons is not playing for the Cowboys this year, they have no chance. I mean, I don't think they have much of a chance anyway. But I mean, if you. If you go by the idea that this team can do something that. That ends with Michael Parsons sitting the.

[Dan Le Batard]

Season out Dave, if we can move it along here, Travis Hunter, what do we make of him trying to play both sides of the football? I have a very hard time believing that he's going to be able to do that at the NFL level.

[Dave Dameshek]

I mean, listen, you and me, I'm not sure. I mean, I only spent eight years in the NFL and I was fairly limited at that. Zaz, I can't remember your time spent in pro football. But either way, we always. What gets in the way is people who throw up roadblocks. The cynics, the vapid cynics, ruin a lot of stuff in society. And specifically with pro football, all we heard about for decades was like, well, you could never run the option in the NFL. I mean, you could never have a running quarterback and succeed in the NFL. The guys are too fast at that level. And then Michael Vick made the scene and any number of other guys made the scene. And then while, yeah, that's the way you should be. You should be trying to, to do things. And the thing that gets in the way now is like, well, you can't. How can you play both sides of the ball? It's just not. It's not plausible to do that. And there is an example in Roy Green back. I don't talk a deep dive Hawk. Roy Green, back in the 80s, started out as a DB and he. And he was a good kick returner, punt returner, and then started catching passes wearing the number 25. And in a time when you did 25 catch him. That's right. Yeah. That's another great example of that. There are guys that. Right. That's a more recent example that people can relate to. Right. And Deion Sanders and Rod, you know, a lot of guys have done it, so I don't think it's as big an issue. And by the way, it's one thing if it's the Eagles or the Chiefs. And it's like, this is all about getting to January in the best spot. If you're the Jacksonville Jaguars, you know Travis Hunter, you use, you want the sideshow of Travis Hunter. You're an SEC country. It means less pro football down there. It just means less in SEC country. Play Travis Hunter, get some attention, right? That's got to have great value in Duval county, which isn't exactly a pro football hotbed. Hawk.

[Dan Le Batard]

My son walked into the kitchen the other day, my younger1, my 13 year old, and he doesn't know much about Travis Hunter. He doesn't follow college football. And he's like, why is he so Good. You know, I said, well, he's, he's trying to play both sides of the ball. He's going to play offense and defense. And my son literally say, goes, what? When's he gonna rest?

[Hawk]

Yeah, that's a great, great question. He should be the head coach of the Jaguars. Here's how I view Travis Hunter's situation. And I'm down here in South Florida for the listeners. I'm new to this place, I'm an implant. I came here about three years ago and I am now entrenched in Youth Football here. 12, 11, 13 year olds, so few percentage of them play both ways, which is different than how I grew up in Johnstown, Pennsylvania. If you're good, you stay on the field. Kickoff kick return, offense, defense, you grab the waters, whatever is necessary. So it is very unique at the pro level where it's never been a both sides of the ball thing in the day and age of football where everybody is kind of specialized. For Travis Hunter, do I think he has the ability to play both sides of the Paul the ball? Absolutely. That's not the question. The question becomes, is he going to be the best receiver he possibly can be if he's playing corner right, Is he going to be the best cornerback he possibly can be if he's playing wide receiver? And I don't think that's humanly possible. Not because he doesn't have ability, it's just because if you are splitting those times and because you're putting more reps out there, you're putting more wear and tear on your body, you're doubling your percentages of possibly getting hurt and your stamina and win, no matter how great a shape you are, is diminishing because you're putting more out than what has ever been typical in the NFL. That means you're not going to have that same energy to devote to one thing. And for the Jaguars, the question becomes, okay, is 75% of Travis Hunter at receiver and 70% of him at cornerback better than a hundred percent of the options that we have at both? And if that's the case, you play them both ways. But he will lose it himself. Not lose, because if that's what he's okay with, he's okay with. He won't be the best version of either one of those things by doing both. Not a bad thing, not a good thing, it's just a reality.

[Dave Dameshek]

Do you mean intellectually? I'm sorry, Zaz, like, is it like, do you mean he can't. I'm not intellectually or. Yeah, Tension or whatever. It's not the physical attrition.

[Hawk]

It's both.

[Dave Dameshek]

It's.

[Hawk]

It's both because again, I can't run a go ball in the fourth quarter as fast as I can run it in the first quarter as a receiver. Now, if I'm playing cornerback, maybe that time where I get a little slower in the fourth now becomes the third quarter. And maybe if I'm going against somebody who is a little faster or has more juice or has more stamina, at that point, it's a little harder for me to get open and eventually it will catch up intellectually as well. You spend the whole week trying to gather as much information as you can to help yourself play as fast as you can on Sunday. So how are you splitting your meetings? Are you the kind of person like Tom Brady that's going to spend 24 hours? Tom Brady is the best ever. Not just because of his physical gifts, because he was willing to do more than anybody else for the amount of time he had to be the best. And that's what it's going to take from.

[Dave Dameshek]

Yeah, but he sucked at receiver to prove your point. You saw him get that one chance catching a pass in the super bowl and he. And he blew it. So, yeah, maybe going. Going both ways isn't the best idea. Yeah, it's interesting to consider to his style of play and how that would impact things. He is kind of like Dion, right? He's. He's a burner. He's not going to be banging around on either side. Even if he's a cor corner, he's not going to be a physical guy or he's not Rod Woodson over there. Right. I mean, he's like, you can kind of. What you're talking about is go balls. Like you always hear that with Randy Moss. Like, oh, I had to take plays off every play was me running 50 yard sprints. And so obviously I was a little gassed at some point during the game, but. Right. I mean, but he's not. At least he's not. He's not getting the crap beaten out of him playing on defense and then being asked to go play receiver. Right. Football easier.

[Dan Le Batard]

New episode today. Dave Damachek Monday and Friday every week during football season. Great job, Dave. Thanks, man.

[Dave Dameshek]

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[Mike Ryan]

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