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Dan LeBatard
Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
Stugotz
I've done it. And now here's the Marching man to.
Dan LeBatard
Nowhere, Fat Face and the Habitual Liar. I am legitimately surprised that Greg Cody and I'm sorry to Belabor this has taken out Gary Fuhrman. I know we've spent too much time on it. I just, I'm. I am. I have been knocked over by a South Florida legend being less than respectful to somebody else who is another South Florida media legend. And I happen to really admire in this business, in this town, the survivors, the people who could get to the very end of their careers outlasting their businesses by evolving.
Stugotz
Greg, what. What do you think the perception of you is amongst the writers? Because you seem to not have a very favorable one of many of the writers. And I'm wondering if this is just like a writer thing or if it's like a uniquely you thing. Like you have problems with the Furmans, the Hydes of the world. Like, is this just a normal thing amongst all of you disliking each other but also saying you respect each other? Or like, is it. Are you the one that has a problem with everyone?
Greg Cody
Billy? I don't know where that's coming from. Dave Hyde and I are good friends. I think he's.
Chris Cody
Did he come to your 70th?
Greg Cody
He was invited and couldn't make it. And he told me why, but he was invited. And I think he's a wonderful columnist. I think he's really, really.
Dan LeBatard
What are you. Dave Hyde is not a good representation. What are you accusing Greg Cody?
Stugotz
I'm not accusing anyone of anything. I'm just asking the situation because I.
Dan LeBatard
Think you don't know whether Greg Cody is liked by his colleagues. I don't know.
Stugotz
I'm wondering if they would say the same thing about you. And this is just kind of how you guys hang out, you know what I mean?
Greg Cody
I'm not critical of anyone in this market. Not since the days of Charles Bricker have I just actively not gotten along with anybody that, that I, you know, fraternize with.
Stugotz
Chris, did you talk to Bricker recently?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, they. They were reintroduced to one another on the air.
Dan LeBatard
Can you please get that for me? Any little. Any little.
Mike Ryan
I get that 40 minute segment, I think in its entirety.
Dan LeBatard
I think that this, I think that this thing is the funniest prank we've ever pulled on Greg Cody.
Greg Cody
It really, it was great because I legit was buying it until about halfway through.
Dan LeBatard
You guys should release a little lippy. You guys should realize it was going to.
Mike Ryan
It's earmarked for a super cut on the oral history.
Dan LeBatard
Just, just release it separately. Just let somebody listen to 40 minutes of that. If they have not heard Greg Cody being introduced to his old rival, Charles Bricker. Charles. Charles Bricker. The thing that I wanted to theorize though with you, Chris, because I don't think you actually know your father here and I think it insults him to not know him here that you and your brother have taken so little interest in the thing he cares about in a career. I think that one of the reasons that he is regarding Gary Fuhrman as lower on the food chain than I do is because Gary Fuhrman was a very workmanlike writer. He was kind of like Barry Jackson where he was nuts and bolts information. And I believe that Greg Cody thinks himself something of a poet and judges other writers only there who's a better writer than me or who's a good writer who's got touch. I think. I think it's the thing he admires most. I'm theorizing on his behalf, but I think that's probably one of the things that he does because he really loves the craft of writing.
Greg Cody
What's the.
Dan LeBatard
Chris, what do you think is the worst insult you can give your father if you're writing him a nasty letter at the Herald the way you're. The way that people used to do. Like what do you think is the single worst insult that you could give your father that would hurt him the most?
Chris Cody
Doesn't show up to the games.
Dan LeBatard
Lays lazy.
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
That's not your opinion.
Stugotz
No, no.
Mike Ryan
How would you hurt your.
Chris Cody
Yeah, I would think like I always see him at opening day in the playoffs. Like that's the only time Greg shows up.
Greg Cody
That's a fair criticism.
Mike Ryan
You haven't been to the Fronton since you almost died.
Tony
That's fair.
Chris Cody
That's by choice. I don't want them addict for me. I don't like it was that.
Greg Cody
Yeah. You know, nobody ever breaks news on your highlight team, you know. Why is that? Is it a tight lipped.
Billy Corben
We do it like Billy quietly come.
Dan LeBatard
Around and I think the worst insult is that you call him a.
Greg Cody
For sure. Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Chris Cody
That's what you do.
Stugotz
Very.
Mike Ryan
Seems pretty bad.
Stugotz
Terrible at your job. Not.
Mike Ryan
Not your occupation will always stay.
Dan LeBatard
No, because. No, because he was a reporter for a long time. I'm talking about. He. He's making a distinction between reporter and writer. I think. I think he's making all the people he's talking about as legends at the Miami Herald were people who were like they were poets.
Greg Cody
They were great writers. And I learned a lot from. From all of them, including Edwin Pope, my ultimate mentor. You're a great writer. I mean I do respect more highly people who I think are really skilled with words. I respect that more than I respect breaking a news story. I just do. Which probably speaks ill of me and is a reason why they, you know, shunted me off to be a columnist because I wasn't that good as a beat reporter.
Mike Ryan
Might, might be. I haven't tried my hand at really skillfully trying to write. It seems very difficult. The breaking news beat is a very difficult beat. It's all consuming.
Greg Cody
No, you're right. You're right. And, and somebody's got to do it. And I admire people who do it well. It's very difficult and, and I, I never had a knack for it. I was never somebody who's going to, who was going to chum up to people I was covering and become friends with them. You know, back in the day when I was covering teams as a beat, I did that a little bit, particularly with the Dolphins, more so than the Canes, but I just never liked it. I never liked, you know, waiting in a, in a half empty locker room for a 20 year old kid to come out, hoping that he might grant an interview with me. To me, that was demeaning. I, you know, that, that was a part of journalism.
Stugotz
That's the job though.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. Like you move past it or something. That is, you say that's the job, but that's the distinction I'm making when I say, if you say he's a reporter, he doesn't care. He was. But if you say he's a shitty writer, you've insulted him at his core because he knows he's not right and I know better.
Greg Cody
But it still would hurt to hear it.
Mike Ryan
People. I'm sorry, Tony. The people kind of decided though, in terms of public lore, the breaking news people have it, the, the, the, the great age of columnists kind of went by the wayside with newspapers having happened. What happened?
Greg Cody
Yeah, now we all have podcasts like the Greg Cody show, but who's on this week? You know, but, but I'm going to argue, I'm going to argue that the columnist should be more coveted than he or she ever was for the simple reason that news is breaking everywhere. Now Yudanis Haslam might break news. Somebody in a tweet, some athlete in a tweet might break news. It's not just coming from mainstream media anymore. And so the columnists that you enjoy reading who can make you smile, make you laugh, make you think, I think that's, there's a value there, that, that, that is beyond breaking news, in my opinion. Then Again, I have a vested interest.
Guillermo
Greg, I'm absolutely 100% in agreement with you and all respect to Gary Furman. That's his name. I just learned. I just learned about Gary Fuhrman today. I had no idea who Gary Furman was, obviously, but I come from a different generation of Miami Herald writers. I have a specific way that I know who a Miami Herald legend is. Dan, you're a Miami Herald legend, clearly. Obviously. Greg, Cody, you also, the way that I know.
Stugotz
But if Furman was here, what would you say to him?
Guillermo
I'd give him the same thing.
Dan LeBatard
Right?
Guillermo
I tell him exactly what I'm gonna tell you guys. When I go to Flanagan's and I go to take a leak in the urinal, if your face stares back at my hog.
Dan LeBatard
Furman's name has been there. He's not. His face.
Guillermo
I've never seen it.
Dan LeBatard
Maybe on a Saturday morning. Maybe on a Saturday morning with a.
Guillermo
Football note, staring at my hog, this urinal.
Chris Cody
I get my. My dad's face, like, photoed to me, like, once a week. Somebody at Flanagan.
Dan LeBatard
That is the standard. Can you imagine? I want all of you, Chris, most of all, to fully absorb what your father's legacy is.
Chris Cody
It's weird for me when I'm there.
Guillermo
Staring at my hog.
Dan LeBatard
Flanagan's bathroom. Seen it over the urinal. Look, that's a. Back in my day. Back in my day, you'd put a newspaper over a urinal, and somebody knew what that meant. That meant that columnist mattered in this town nowadays.
Chris Cody
It might be the column from last week. You know, it might not be up to date, but it's going to be there.
Mike Ryan
Braves, Tigers, split squad. Oh, baseball's back. 12.
Stugotz
Eight is the season.
Dan LeBatard
Tony, that is excellent work by you. That is the gold standard for where journalism matters. Over the urinal. Put it on the poll. Juju at lebatard show is over the urinal at Flanagan's the highest journalism standard.
Mike Ryan
In closing, the only issue that I have with Gary Verman is that he took out Peter Arizona's reporting, which was credible for several weeks. This was a. An airtight job of reporting by Kane's insight to come out and say that it's untrue when you're the person that reported Jon Gruden to Miami, not me. Not a great look.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, enough, please. And it's my fault. I know it's my fault.
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Dan LeBatard
Don Le. You don't remember the idea for probably.
Chris Cody
Like that kind of thing.
Greg Cody
Something. Okay. No, the home run call was that kind of swing. That kind of thing.
Dan LeBatard
Stugats.
Stugotz
Oh, it's a good call.
Greg Cody
Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like, you're not tailoring it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz. You know, you don't got to do that. You just. Oh, that would be a great call. Swing. That kind of thing.
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the two guards.
Dan LeBatard
Let's move on to something I did not think we'd be discussing in 2025. A rod winning again. Just a rod always in the middle, in the center of some strange sort of fame currency that. Look, man, this is hard to do. And I will tell you that I've had a conversation with A Rod about dating Madonna and having the conversations with Madonna about how you keep yourself relevant and growing through fame as old people become discarded. A rod's ability to be in the center of things and now really climb into ownership in a place that has him making a half court shot. Is he wearing a suit in this clip? Because he's almost always wearing a suit. And there it is.
Chris Cody
Bank.
Stugotz
Yeah, this also.
Greg Cody
That's good form, by the way.
Stugotz
For clarification this was at Bucknell because he, I believe, had like a meeting or a speaking engagement there. So, like, this isn't even the basketball team that he owns. This is just. He was randomly at Bucknell and he was taking shots on behalf of scholarships for a student.
Dan LeBatard
You can make the argument, and with not get a lot of rebuttal, that A Rod is the biggest and most important athlete in the history of South Florida. Like, and. And, you know, relevant since he was 17 years old and still climbing into ownership in power brokering ways because he profited, made a ton of money and cheated and resurrected himself after the cheating, which is just nuts to me.
Mike Ryan
You're talking about, like, from South Florida.
Stugotz
Yeah, like homegrown.
Mike Ryan
Homegrown.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. I'm just talking about most relevant athletes in the history of this market where you dwin Wade.
Stugotz
Duh.
Dan LeBatard
If you put at the. I'm Joe. But Dwayne Wade. Dwayne Wade was.
Stugotz
We raised him well.
Greg Cody
Aod.
Stugotz
This is home.
Greg Cody
He never played down here, so.
Dan LeBatard
It matters that you're from here, does it not?
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Guillermo
Yeah, it matters.
Greg Cody
It doesn't matter as much though, as playing for a team down here. Right?
Stugotz
Yeah. Like, if we raised someone and all they're playing was in high school and then they did all of their winning elsewhere, who cares?
Greg Cody
I wouldn't say who cares, but to Billy's point, it's. You know, that. That's why I put a little asterisk by calling him the most influential.
Dan LeBatard
Well, wait a minute. What's the asterisk that you're doing? Because by your standard, then Mike Lowell would be more relevant locally because he went from somebody who won a championship here.
Greg Cody
Right.
Dan LeBatard
For this region. And being from this region, then a Rod who wants to be about this region so much that he pays millions of dollars to put his name on the college baseball stadium, wants to be known as from the hood and Kendall, and is somebody who is trying to imprint South Florida for the. For the world. Right. Like, he's. He's proudly from here. You can't say that about Dwyane Wade.
Mike Ryan
All right?
Stugotz
The guidelines are you have to be born here. Correct.
Dan LeBatard
Not born here, necessarily, but just your athletic prime. Because A Rod wasn't born here. We saw you grow up. We saw you grow up. We saw you in our high schools. We saw you in eighth grade. People were whispering about you in the streets.
Guillermo
I've got a good one that plays a lot of different categories. Frank Gore.
Mike Ryan
It's a good one.
Dan LeBatard
Yes.
Guillermo
Played high school, played college.
Dan LeBatard
I mean, he's a Hall of Famer. But when I say to you I'm sorry, is this is not something that. Who's second place?
Mike Ryan
Lamar Jackson.
Guillermo
Lamar Jackson?
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Two time mvp, South Florida.
Dan LeBatard
What was that sound, Billy?
Stugotz
Well, I mean, I'm still. We're still trying to figure out the rules. If they didn't play here professionally, then is that part of it or is it not part of it? Jose Canseco never played.
Dan LeBatard
The rules are. Are you from here? And then what did you do? And you guys are saying you have to have won in Miami, which would disqualify a rod, not the Tri county area.
Mike Ryan
We're not talking about Palm Beach.
Dan LeBatard
No.
Mike Ryan
Or Broward.
Stugotz
What if you're straight up Miami? What if you live here on your spare time while you're doing the winning elsewhere, like the Williams sisters?
Guillermo
How about Mike Lowell?
Dan LeBatard
I already said that. What, you don't want, Tony?
Stugotz
Aaron Rodgers.
Dan LeBatard
Tony. God damn it.
Stugotz
Oh, okay.
Mike Ryan
The Rock is a good one.
Guillermo
The Rock is the great one.
Greg Cody
How about Dwayne Johnson did it at the U. That's a trick.
Dan LeBatard
Minor penalty.
Stugotz
Two minutes for not listening.
Mike Ryan
Damn it might be the Rock.
Guillermo
Fiu. Baseball matters.
Dan LeBatard
Get out of here.
Stugotz
That's what I've been trying to tell anyone that'll listen.
Mike Ryan
Michael said, Mike Lowell, He's a good one.
Greg Cody
Michael old denied first ballot entry into the new made up Marlins hall of Fame.
Stugotz
Levitard Colon. Mike Lowell doesn't matter.
Dan LeBatard
I think he's mad at our show.
Mike Ryan
I think our show or oh, he's mad at me.
Dan LeBatard
I think my.
Stugotz
What'd you do to him?
Mike Ryan
There's like a 15 year long grudge. He didn't find something. I was like, you weren't that great defensively. At second base, he's like, you know what? Blood feud forever at third base.
Dan LeBatard
Third base?
Greg Cody
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no. I criticized his ability to play second base because he was an emergency second baseman during a season and he took it really personally, which I have apologized.
Stugotz
There's probably more to it than this.
Dan LeBatard
Okay.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no. That was it. That was it. He's like, I'll take crap talk from you, Le batard, but Mike. No way. And that's pretty much where we left.
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Mike Lowell had a problem with us perpetually undermining how good of an athlete he was by making fun of him a number of different things. One of which is we all thought we could beat him in a foot race. And so I just.
Chris Cody
I think running down the first baseline was always fun to watch.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, but. But again, we can Set up a race between you and Michael. Now, Mike, I. Look, I don't want to feud with Mike Lowell or Gary Fuhrmann.
Mike Ryan
Well, I'm good with Gary.
Stugotz
Gary.
Mike Ryan
I'm good with feuding with Gary. Michael, I've apologized and, you know, if he doesn't want to accept it, I'm sorry. Mike, for the record, I'm sorry I said you played with a frying pan in your hand. We actually googled it. Your defensive metrics were really good. It was just odd at that stage in your career to watch you at second base. I thought we were all having fun. You clearly were. And I'm sorry again.
Dan LeBatard
Okay? It's just I don't want to feud with anybody else.
Greg Cody
I'd like to see Mike Lowell race Gary Fuhrman for charity.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, we'll set that up shortly. I'm sure we'll get people to come out by the thousands. Thank you for this. You think today I don't want to do this anymore. Let's move on to other subjects over the weekend. I really did and you guys had to have found this funny. And for the people listening who may not be familiar with what is just a majestically silly rule, the the New York Yankees since the 1970s have just sort of proudly been. You'll not wear facial hair on our watch. Not over the dead body of George Steinbrenner. We're going to be a well groomed, beard allergic team. No facial hair for the New York Yankees for Jeff Passon to write a long story this weekend because only the most important stories that are culture shifting get the Jeff Pass in treatment for Jeff Passing to write a long story about how monumental it is that 50 years after Steinbrenner implemented the New York Yankees are now willing to allow their players to wear only a well groomed beard. And this being some sort of victory for America progress that the New York Yankees are embracing facial hair is one of the comically ridiculous wonderful stories I've ever seen reported on a weekend in sports.
Mike Ryan
Dan, take the victories when you could get them.
Stugotz
All right?
Mike Ryan
This is progress.
Stugotz
You donis haslam.
Dan LeBatard
Yes, Greg, don't get distracted by the fact that Billy's doing his own show there. Just go ahead and refer to whatever it is that I was talking about.
Greg Cody
That was a good comment.
Dan LeBatard
Don't get distracted by Billy purposely trying to stop the show and extracts that.
Greg Cody
No, he's right about you D trying to help.
Dan LeBatard
Thank you.
Greg Cody
It's huge news. Mainly because it's the New York Yankees and because the rule the no Beard rule was so archaic. It's nice to see the Yankees step gingerly into the 21st century because the old rule was straight out on 1956. It's ridiculous. And I think what's happening here is the Yankees realize that in an age where the coveted free agent is getting a couple of $500 million offers, maybe the tiebreaker on that offer is going to be, you know what? I've had a beard my whole life. I'm shaving a beard.
Stugotz
I don't think there's a person that's turned down $200 million for the Yankees over facial hair yet.
Greg Cody
Well, what if that's the tiebreaker, though? What if he's got 2,200 million dollars?
Dan LeBatard
This is wonderful to think about. I went look at Chris Cody agreeing with that.
Chris Cody
I just think my dad's right. If, if it's the money, similar, it could come down to, oh, I prefer to wear. Have a beard.
Dan LeBatard
It's not even prefer to have a beard. I prefer to work for an organization that doesn't care whether or not I have a beard. Do I really want to. Do I really want to be working for people who are that interested in my grooming?
Mike Ryan
Amanda Nunes.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, the idea of that as a story, though, you're saying it's huge news. Greg, that's ridiculous.
Greg Cody
It's huge news because it's New York and because of the rule was so outdated.
Dan LeBatard
I understand that it is news. It's just I don't understand how in 2025, anybody can be okay with an employer saying, we're not good with a well groomed beard. Like, you cannot have facial hair. And then furthermore, there were. Go look at what Goose Gossage had on his face. I don't know what that he was allowed to wear facial hair.
Guillermo
Mustaches are good, though.
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, mustache, but that was not a mustache. Look at what Goose Gossage had. That was more than a mustache.
Stugotz
Jackson.
Mike Ryan
They established that you could have a, like a mustache that was well groomed with the Yankees. But Giambi tried it out.
Dan LeBatard
Goose Gossage was pushing it. He was right between mustache and beard.
Mike Ryan
He was socially acceptable.
Greg Cody
Right?
Chris Cody
Do you want to hear this sound of Hal talking about it? Because it's funny to hear him. He's just like these kids these days. They like their beards.
Tony
You know, our new vice president has a beard. Members of Congress have a beard. The list goes on and on and on in this country and in this world. It is a part of who these younger men are. It's part of Their character, it's a part of their Persona. I did make the decision that the policy that was in place was outdated. And given how important it is to that generation and given that it is the norm in this world today, that it was somewhat unreasonable.
Dan LeBatard
Hal feels like a pioneer in these conservative times. Like boldly, boldly going out there progressively saying, I think a beard shows you a man's character.
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
These young people today, they're making artistic statements with their beards.
Guillermo
There's members of Congress with beards.
Greg Cody
Imagine that.
Tony
It is a part of who these younger men are. It's a part of their character.
Stugotz
Brian Wilson and David Price both voiced concerns about the facial hair policy and not going to the Yankees.
Greg Cody
Now, there you go.
Stugotz
Probably dodged a bullet with not signing Brian Wilson long term. Right? That was.
Tony
He had the world.
Stugotz
Yeah. But I mean, what do you give that guy? And then all of a sudden it's like, okay, well, now we're stuck with him for a while.
Dan LeBatard
But would that be a well groomed beard? Because what Brian Wilson was, was. Would be illegal by Yankee standards. They would be the judges of what would be well groomed, though incredibly well.
Mike Ryan
Groomed for a longer beard. It was perfect.
Dan LeBatard
But what I'm guessing you correct. You guys, everyone here correct me that if the Yankees and whatever was the height of this ridiculous movement of no facial hair, if a Yankee of some sort had worn a cartoonishly James Harden beard, that would be against the principles of what it is. The Yankees were saying that. That a man could show of his character and personality on his face.
Mike Ryan
No, that.
Dan LeBatard
That would be too much character.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no, that's well groomed.
Dan LeBatard
I disagree.
Mike Ryan
That's well groomed. What's not well groomed is, you know, Keanu Reeves, anytime you see him do an interview, and it's all patchy. Jason worth less well groomed. But like Brian Wilson, that's creme de la creme. Like he, he established an esthetic.
Dan LeBatard
I understand what you're saying. Do you understand what I'm saying? Which is the Yankees are trying to eradicate personality. It's not that you. You will come in sloppy and unprofessional. It's that they, the New York Yankees wanted the pinstripes to always lord above whatever it is you thought was your personal expression.
Mike Ryan
Thought it was about control.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Personally, especially towards the latter end, when the salaries got out of. Out of whack with George Steinbrenner, I thought it became all about control.
Chris Cody
The question is, would my dad be able to play if he. This Picture of my dad that we have up here. Would my dad have been able to play with this beard?
Dan LeBatard
Okay, so that's. This is right between. This is sort of what Goose Gossage was doing, where it's like, I don't know that. Yeah, you're starting as a mustache. But Greg Cody is also, you know, testing the limits of mustachness.
Chris Cody
The video team says this is a combination of Greg Stugott and Dan.
Dan LeBatard
Oh, Chris, can you please.
Mike Ryan
Can you just save some for the rest of us?
Dan LeBatard
Can you just grab for me a few sounds first? I'd like the 22 minutes, please, of Greg Cody. Talked to Charles Bricker.
Greg Cody
Oh, God.
Mike Ryan
That was on the line. And we should go through that with a fine oral history. Super cut.
Dan LeBatard
All right, I do want to Release the. The 22 minute. It's one of the greatest pranks in the history of Greg Cody. Greg, what are you doing?
Greg Cody
What do you mean?
Stugotz
He's right.
Chris Cody
Why are you holding your.
Greg Cody
You're wielding your coffee mug, you know, shaking it up.
Stugotz
You see how Hal, by the way, mentioned shaking things up? He also announced no more New York, New York after losses now Yankees lose. That's life.
Greg Cody
You gotta earn, you gotta learn. You gotta earn. You gotta earn. New York, New York.
Stugotz
But spreading the news, what is that?
Dan LeBatard
What do you mean? Why did they change that? What's wrong?
Stugotz
That's life.
Guillermo
That's life.
Stugotz
You're not going to play New York, New York for losers.
Tony
You play.
Stugotz
That's life.
Greg Cody
Good decision.
Stugotz
Exactly right.
Greg Cody
Yep. Hal's got it going on.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, put it on the poll. Does Hal have it going on? And again, I want you guys, please, can you. Can you understand for just a second, just enjoy the idea of somebody so burdened by the Steinbrenner name, so burdened by whatever it's been to be the Yankee boss's kid in a tabloid town where dad ran this town when the Yankees were the most important thing. To come out in front of the cameras and have to nervously explain. Look, I know, I know this is crazy what I'm about to do here. And I know that a lot of Yankee fans aren't going to like this, but I'm going to be scared as I deliver the news of, you know, congressmen have beards, and the beard is a form of character. This is a scared son child trying to play up to daddy's rules on facial hair.
Tony
You know, our new vice president has a beard. Members of Congress have a beard. The list goes on and on and on in this country and in this world. It is a part of who these younger men are. It's a part of their character. It's a part of their Persona. I did make the decision that the policy that was in place was outdated. And given how important it is to that generation, and given that it is the norm in this world today, that it was somewhat unreasonable.
Dan LeBatard
Do you understand what a waste of that man's time it is to sit in front of people and have to explain that?
Stugotz
What else is he doing? No, but I'm the burden of growing up a Steinberg. Yeah, I'm sure Hal really wanted to earn his pinstripes and become president of the Yankees on his own, without help from daddy's last name.
Greg Cody
Hal had an epiphany. He woke up one morning and said, you know what? Facial hair is a part of someone's personality. We're going to allow it. The turn of the century, baseball had a team that required full beards, flowing beards, like a, like a 19th century US president, Garfield or somebody. And this.
Dan LeBatard
Are you looking this up? Are you?
Greg Cody
And this rule was just as ridiculous to not allow facial hair. It's crazy. But now by saying it has to be a well groomed beard, you're still opening a can of worms. Because now.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Billy Corben
Who judges that?
Greg Cody
The Yankees have a vice president in charge of judging whether your beard is well groomed or not. It's ridiculous. You can have a beard down to your. If I'm running the club, have a beard. Beard down to your navel if you can catch a damn fly ball. Why are we judging facial hair in sports? It's crazy.
Dan LeBatard
What an odd rant.
Greg Cody
I'm an odd man.
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Stugotz
Yes.
Greg Cody
You know I'm a married man. I don't cheat on my wife. Despite that gratuitous line in back in St. I wish you were here. My wife. I really miss her. No, I don't. That's the thing about being married. You know, you're not allowed to say, I don't miss my wife. I've been gone two days. I haven't been gone long enough to miss my wife. I'm sorry. I call her. I'm on the phone with her 30 seconds. You know, what am I? Hello? All right, all right, we'll see you. All right. And then, you know, I'm going to see her in two days. How's jumping Charlie?
Stugotz
Good. This is the D Ler show with the stuff.
Dan LeBatard
Do you have the sound of Billy doing the FIU baseball game? Speaking of odd men, Billy, you. You did your first. This is your first FIU baseball game. You very quietly became a broadcaster for FIU baseball. Out of nowhere, you have become somebody who pops up as a content factory in places quietly. You did so this weekend for FIU baseball. What's the sound that we've gathered here?
Stugotz
We have a couple clips from FIU baseball and you know, if you like it, I'm gonna be doing another game on Saturday. On Friday, sorry, Friday evening, you can check it out, ESPN plus where we're gonna do it. This is me, kinda. So they had FIU baseball starters career high with nine strikeouts and, you know, got off to a bit of a slow start. It's early in the season, players on somewhat of a pitch count. So I felt pretty confident in the assessment I was about to give you. Looks like we're not gonna see his career high in strikeouts for a game at nine. Unless we really start swinging and missing. We'll see another strikeout.
Dan LeBatard
There is number nine in three and two thirds innings.
Stugotz
We were in the second inning when I said, I don't think we're gonna get to nine because, you know, we're already close to 40 pitches and think there's more a build up to that, but it's fine. Yeah. You know, second inning, four strike. As I said, nine is going to be impossible. But no, it wasn't.
Dan LeBatard
You're there for that kind of expertise, right? You were there.
Stugotz
My role wasn't entirely discussed. They just said, would you like to call some games? And I said yes. So I assume it was for my expertise, not, you know, for silliness like what you're about to hear. It's his birthday on Wednesday. You guys wish him a happy birthday?
Billy Corben
I did.
Mike Ryan
Good.
Stugotz
Good for you. See, it's real friends. Of course I like you, Zach. You know, his favorite artist is my birthdays.
Dan LeBatard
I do not.
Stugotz
Do you know whose favorite artist is? I don't. Picasso. That seems like just something you say. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I mean, that's kind of difficult to get here I am thinking you were going to say a music like Drake or.
Dan LeBatard
Right, like future.
Stugotz
I said, all right. No.
Dan LeBatard
What other information do they give you.
Stugotz
That he loves a Good Burger. He doesn't tell you that right now. Loves a Good Burger.
Dan LeBatard
Shout out to Burble right down the street.
Stugotz
I. I don't believe that he loves Picasso. This is just respectfully to Jaden Bishop. I guess we're going to have to ask him. Calling me a liar. I just want the full scoop. I could just make stuff up and you wouldn't know the difference. Right. You just assume I'm reading it from something. You want to guess his favorite artist? It's not Picasso.
Mike Ryan
Music or.
Stugotz
That's your painting.
Dan LeBatard
Music or painting.
Stugotz
This one's music. I'm gonna say Bad Bunny. Yeah, it is Bad Bunny.
Dan LeBatard
All right.
Stugotz
I shouldn't have told you.
Dan LeBatard
Well, he. Maybe I'm a good teammate.
Stugotz
In fairness, it doesn't say musical artist. It just says artists. So he may be a fan of Bad Bunny's painting.
Dan LeBatard
He took the. He took the liberty to do it as a music artist.
Stugotz
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Yes.
Dan LeBatard
That. That lines up. You think Bad Bunny paints?
Stugotz
I think he does it all. Whoa.
Dan LeBatard
Cross to right field. It'll be pulled.
Stugotz
Foul.
Dan LeBatard
There is a sitcom here somewhere of broadcasters who go to work together in a booth and don't like each other.
Stugotz
Don't like each other. Is that what you gathered from. Hold on. This is constructive criticism because I haven't received this yet. When I left, they said, that was a lot of fun. And I said, okay, see you Friday. So you think they didn't like me?
Dan LeBatard
Well, no.
Stugotz
This is because I thought you. Look here. There's the play by play guy. They brought in a former FIU baseball player to kind of, you know, give you the ins and the outs, the nuts and bolts, if you will. So I said, well, where do I fit? So I would go through. I would watch the videos of, you know, media Day. I'd read the media guide to get facts about all the players, and then I'd find things like, this person's favorite artist is Picasso. Maybe this is a helpful fact I can throw in there in the middle of the fourth.
Dan LeBatard
But they don't trust you. They think you're lying. They don't. They don't believe you. They think you're there to cause chaos. And I wouldn't like that if I was sacred about broadcasting.
Stugotz
I will say this, and I don't know if I should give you all of this information beforehand, but I made sure to call Zach, the lead play by play guy, like, two days before, and, like, introduce myself, because I had never met either of the broadcasters before. So I called, and I Said, let me introduce myself to Zach in particular, just so that.
Guillermo
Because Zach, was he aware of your work or no.
Stugotz
Well, that's. He's a young up and comer and I say. So he knows you're an evil cat dog. No, but I said let's just, let's just, let's. Let's have a nice get to know you session on the phone beforehand so that we're not surprised, kind of by the way this may end up going, which I thought was a nice gesture on my part, if I'm going to be perfectly honest.
Dan LeBatard
Not only. It is not only nice, but Tony, this is, this is why. This is a very specific funny lane for Billy to occupy. If you're working with young broadcasters who aren't familiar with as. As what Mike Ryan might call what my resume suggests.
Stugotz
He's from Syracuse. Like, this is a real deal broadcast. Newhouse.
Dan LeBatard
Okay, look, look. I have seen this happen too many times. Tony Kornheiser and his wackiness was not welcome around the sacredness that makes House Steinbrenner moan because someone's got hair on their face like the cathedral of sports. The ridiculous sports people fear of being different makes it so that you're going to be on that broadcast and they're not going to know what to make of you, the broadcasters who are taking it seriously.
Greg Cody
You're right. Dennis Miller. Same. Same thing.
Dan LeBatard
And so you. Even if you're calling to warn them, hey, are you familiar with what it is that I do not warn?
Stugotz
Just kind of a get to know you session. You know what I mean? Like, it's. Because it's awkward if you just go on the air first time you meet someone and you just kind of. Which is basically what happened. So I wanted to.
Dan LeBatard
But I think more. More awkward, though more awkward than the awkward of going on the air without having worked together before. Is the specialty of awkward that you have. Like, where you're perfectly going for the awkward. Yes. Where the.
Stugotz
I don't.
Dan LeBatard
The broadcasters are taking their job seriously and you're finding funny.
Stugotz
I spent like two hours reading a media guide and watching videos of media. David.
Mike Ryan
No, you're very well.
Stugotz
Seriously.
Mike Ryan
No, you're very well.
Stugotz
Mike caught me in the middle of a zoom with the fort. The opposing Delaware baseball coach on Tuesday. In the middle of the show, I.
Mike Ryan
Kicked him on the shin.
Stugotz
He's like, what? What are you doing? And I'm like, delaware baseball coaches here. I need to know what's going on with the Blue Ducks.
Greg Cody
Hence Hens. The Blue Hens.
Stugotz
Well, they're gone. I don't need to worry about them anymore. On to Mary Mack.
Mike Ryan
Wow, he does prepare. But I think what Dan's suggesting is that you do have a bit of. A bit.
Stugotz
Bit.
Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Greg Cody
I want two strangers in the booth. I think that'd be great chemistry.
Dan LeBatard
I'm telling you that there is a. I would love to read something that is scripted about broadcasters being awkward around each other because they're trying to remain professional, but they don't actually have chemistry or know each other. Billy going to these broadcast and doing FIU baseball and you know, making fun of the construct while inside of the construct while pretending he's not and also getting on the pre call with the. With the Delaware in the middle of the show as well.
Stugotz
You were interviewing PK Suband. Like what am I? You guys are ranking the hottest black men. Like I thought I was fine at the time to hear what the Delaware baseball coach had to say.
Mike Ryan
It went beyond the Suband.
Stugotz
It went a little longer than I thought going. To be honest.
Dan LeBatard
Mike, you just thankfully coach.
Mike Ryan
No, he, he, he self snitched. I would have never revealed that he was talking to the manager of the.
Dan LeBatard
Delaware Bluehead during the show that I didn't know.
Mike Ryan
There was one time I was in your headphones. Don't go to Billy just yet. I can't say why.
Stugotz
It was a quick. It was like a 15 minute chat. You know what I mean? We had to talk about the players.
Greg Cody
You don't turn down that chance.
Stugotz
Exactly.
Dan LeBatard
Right.
Greg Cody
I mean I chance to interview the Delaware Blue Hens manager.
Stugotz
Yeah. How many times do it. How many times have you guys done that?
Dan LeBatard
I have not. I did. I was doing a lot of.
Mike Ryan
I didn't wave hello Maine.
Dan LeBatard
I did a lot of maintenance. Black Bear, the Black Bears.
Mike Ryan
Good squad.
Stugotz
So what you're telling me, if I'm to understand correctly, is that me going on there and me doing research beforehand where I get fun facts about the different players in a clip that maybe, maybe we'll play here. Possibly Chris Cody maybe playing here. What, what you're saying to me is that if I'm there and I'm doing the research where I find out the biggest fears of the baseball players and I'm sharing that in like the fifth inning of the seventh game of the season that this is. This is a problem of sorts and this is a bit. And not me doing my job. He's a grad student out of Key West. Worst fear is the dark or huge birds. Hopefully the birds here won't spook Him.
Dan LeBatard
Hopefully the birds don't scare him too much.
Stugotz
Which do you think scares him more? Because the media guide says dark or huge birds crusted down the line.
Dan LeBatard
Foul.
Stugotz
That's a great question.
Dan LeBatard
I'd say it's more the huge birds.
Stugotz
Yeah, I mean, night games would be a problem. Huge birds. Was that the it says description? Dark or huge birds?
Dan LeBatard
I would say huge birds.
Stugotz
I'm gonna agree with Rhino there. Yeah.
Dan LeBatard
I will tell the audience. And this is a Guillermo mafia that is very strong if you believe Billy to be the greatest of all the characters in the history of this show. The idea that Billy would spend any time listening to the droning of the manager of the Delaware Blue Hens fighter during our show just so that he could go make the joke of I'm prepared in the event anyone asks me a Blue Hen managerial question so I can go to. In the pre interview, we talked to Skip and he said X, Y and Z. But Billy is going to great lengths to broadcast in the small lanes that these serious broadcasters will afford him.
Stugotz
You know, taking my time a coach Mamula hear what he had to say about the Blue Hens. And you know, we learned something.
Chris Cody
Someone has to work on their breathing, though, in there.
Dan LeBatard
There were some slurping sounds as well.
Stugotz
A lot of sounds, by the way.
Dan LeBatard
There was a bit of slurping in there. Yes.
Stugotz
Well, it's a TV broadcast, so, you know, it's primarily visual.
Dan LeBatard
Did you enjoy yourself? Were you nervous working with new people? What's the worst part of it? Working with new people or collaborating with new people or just doing something for the first time?
Stugotz
A little bit of all of it. You know, it's. It's difficult to build a rapport with people that you haven't worked with before. So hopefully the next one, you know, goes. Goes a little better than the last one. And that's just the goal. Just keep it moving, keep it talking baseball. Keep it about the players and the game and that's it. Billy, I will tune in to watch some.
Guillermo
I have some advice.
Stugotz
Football. Oh, great.
Greg Cody
Go.
Guillermo
Go watch the Alex Solana broadcast. Those are so much better. Just take some notes from Alex and then just redo it because he comes prepared. He comes ready to go. He's got his hands going. And Billy, you got bringing a Picasso. I mean, after the media stuff is done, we're.
Mike Ryan
The Picasso note is a good one. When the.
Stugotz
What is that?
Mike Ryan
Solana?
Stugotz
Yeah. What is this exactly what's happened.
Guillermo
I just saw his broadcast. Very professional.
Stugotz
Really. You watched him in a suit Higher broadcast.
Guillermo
He came in a suit. You didn't show up in a suit.
Stugotz
I don't know what he wanted a shoe for. He was. He wasn't on camera. So going in a suit is just.
Mike Ryan
Woody came in.
Stugotz
Yeah. What is this business that we're doing now?
Dan LeBatard
I can't believe Tony took you out with some.
Stugotz
He's an ingrate.
Dan LeBatard
I can't believe he just did that. That is the break.
Stugotz
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Podcast: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Guests: Greg Cody, Mike Ryan, Chris Cody
Release Date: February 24, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
In this lively episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz, alongside guests Greg Cody, Mike Ryan, and Chris Cody, delve into the colorful dynamics of South Florida's sports media scene. The episode is marked by playful banter, behind-the-scenes insights, and a central focus on transforming a personal feud into a charitable endeavor.
[02:19] Stugotz:
Stugotz opens with a humorous anecdote about pranking Greg Cody, sparking a discussion about the intricate relationships among South Florida media figures. This leads to a candid conversation about the perception of Greg Cody among his peers.
[03:07] Dan Le Batard:
Dan expresses admiration for media legends who have successfully evolved with their careers, emphasizing the importance of adaptability in maintaining longevity in the industry.
[18:00] Mike Ryan:
Mike Ryan brings to light his long-standing grudge against Mike Lowell, stemming from past critiques of Lowell's defensive skills at second base. He shares, "He didn't find something. I was like, you weren't that great defensively at second base," highlighting the personal nature of the feud.
[18:20] Dan Le Batard:
Dan addresses the tension, stating, "I don't want to feud with anybody else," and introduces the idea of channeling this rivalry into a positive initiative.
[18:31] Greg Cody:
Greg supports the notion, saying, "I'd like to see Mike Lowell race Gary Fuhrman for charity," framing the proposed race as an entertaining and philanthropic solution to their differences.
[18:43] Stugotz:
Stugotz echoes the sentiment, emphasizing the potential community benefits of such an event and the importance of moving beyond personal disputes.
[19:06] Mike Ryan:
Mike acknowledges past tensions and expresses openness to resolving them, saying, "I'm good with feuding with Gary."
Notable Quote:
[10:51] Dan Le Batard:
The discussion shifts to the New York Yankees' updated facial hair policy. Dan humorously critiques the policy as "archaic" yet "progressive," pondering its implications in the modern sports landscape.
[22:29] Greg Cody:
Greg adds, "The Yankees have a vice president in charge of judging whether your beard is well groomed or not. It's ridiculous," highlighting the absurdity of regulating personal grooming in professional sports.
Notable Quote:
[32:49] Stugotz:
Stugotz shares his new role as a broadcaster for FIU baseball, detailing the challenges and humorous moments of integrating into a new broadcasting team. He discusses his preparation process and the amusing interactions during live broadcasts.
[35:32] Stugotz:
Highlighting a memorable broadcast moment, Stugotz recounts, "I kicked him on the shin," referring to an unexpected on-air incident, underscoring the unpredictable nature of live sports broadcasting.
Notable Quote:
[18:43] Dan Le Batard:
Dan officially introduces the concept of a charity race between Mike Lowell and Gary Fuhrman, aiming to transform their rivalry into a philanthropic event. He states, "We can set up a race between you and Michael," emphasizing the positive potential of this initiative.
[25:35] Chris Cody:
Chris supports the idea, "How many times have you guys done that?" signaling enthusiasm for the planned event.
[26:10] Dan Le Batard:
Maximizing the humorous undertone, Dan remarks, "This is one of the greatest pranks in the history of Greg Cody," as the team playfully teases Greg about the race plans.
Dan Le Batard [02:19]: "I've been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there."
Greg Cody [07:31]: "I think the columnist should be more coveted than he or she ever was for the simple reason that news is breaking everywhere."
Mike Ryan [18:01]: "He didn't find something. I was like, you weren't that great defensively at second base."
Greg Cody [25:27]: "I'd like to see Mike Lowell race Gary Fuhrman for charity."
Dan Le Batard [18:31]: "We can set up a race between you and Michael."
Mike Ryan [18:45]: "I'm good with feuding with Gary."
The episode culminates with the unanimous agreement to pursue the charity race between Mike Lowell and Gary Fuhrman, symbolizing a shift from personal animosity to community-focused goodwill. The hosts reflect on the importance of leveraging relationships and rivalries for positive outcomes, reinforcing the show's commitment to both entertainment and philanthropy.
Final Thoughts:
"The Big Suey: The Mike Lowell vs. Gary Ferman Race For Charity" masterfully blends humor, personal anecdotes, and meaningful initiatives. Through engaging discussions and notable quotes, Dan Le Batard and his team highlight the vibrant and sometimes contentious world of South Florida sports media, ultimately steering towards a charitable cause that promises to benefit the community and foster unity.
This summary captures the essence of the episode, highlighting key discussions, notable quotes, and the central theme of transforming a feud into a charitable event. For those who haven't listened, it provides a comprehensive overview of the episode's main points and the engaging dynamics among the hosts and guests.