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Jon Weiner
Cuervo. Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Lebatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, Fat face and the habitual liar.
Billy Gill
This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.
Jon Weiner
Longtime observers of this particular program have seen that Billy Gill is an agent of chaos, purposely, in a way that Makes him one of the most popular characters in show history. And when Mike Ryan and Zaslow and Roy do the hockey analysis, which does amuse me, I understand it. But it amuses me that Marchand brings activity, like, just as an idea. I understand exactly what you're saying. And I also understand why you guys think with two months off, Tkachuk and Ekblad might also bring activity. I want to just take inventory. Billy's been off for seven days, and in the first hour, he's taken out the Lightning, Method man and Mark Cuban. Two of them has been described as ain't shit. And, Billy.
Mike Ryan
What?
Jon Weiner
Did I say that about Mark Cuban and the Lightning?
Roy Bellamy
I don't think I said quoting you directly.
Jon Weiner
Please.
Billy Gill
I believe he's full of shit.
Roy Bellamy
Thank you. That's a fine. And I mean. Never mind.
Jon Weiner
Okay. Good effort.
Chris Cody
Is that a fine? I saw that inside the NBA accidentally killed someone this past weekend.
Mike Ryan
That's a fine.
Chris Cody
Did you see that, Dan?
Jon Weiner
I did not.
Chris Cody
Oh, it was. Was it Billy Ray Gates?
Jon Weiner
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Mike Ryan
Billy Ray Cyrus is with Elizabeth Hurley now.
Roy Bellamy
I saw that. What?
Billy Gill
Wow.
Jon Weiner
Interesting reaction to that triangle of gossip. I didn't see any of what was happening in that corner coming where you guys are just gossiping the way you would around the fridge out there. Billy, you've been cantankerous. What is happening?
Roy Bellamy
I have bronchitis.
Jon Weiner
How was the time off? Why are you in a foul mood? What's happening with you?
Roy Bellamy
I'm just. I'm under the weather, but I'm here. I'm, you know, a teammate. I have bronchitis. I have gastroenteritis. And just, you know, bunch of itis taking up. Yeah, exactly, right. No, not senioritis. I'm here, friends. I'll tell you that right now. I'm working. I'm here to work. You know, I'm trying to have fun with the hockey playoffs. And no one here wants to have fun around hockey. We just want to do a serious hockey show. All of a sudden, like we're on TSN or something. What's going on here?
Jon Weiner
There is some trouble here between the tensions. Roy, you laugh at this, but this is the conundrum. I would say Billy speaks for the audience here on the infiltration of hockey coverage. The last couple of years, when this space has been kind of blissfully hockey free, except for us every once in a while. Every. Every couple of years, we'll see every couple of years, it's like, man, hockey's fun. And that's how we covered hockey for about 30 years. Before the last three years. Check the table.
Mike Ryan
Just unbelievable. It's a professional sport in North America.
Jon Weiner
Professional team. The audience doesn't want it the way we're giving it. We're doing a preview show right now for a Tampa Bay. Tampa Bay Florida game that I don't think Billy and Jessica have any interest in. And and I, I. They're not alone. I don't think I'll be watching. I don't think Tony has any interest. I don't think Jeremy has any interest.
Mike Ryan
Why do you do this all the time with hockey like we we did fun bit on the front end. He doesn't know what the he's talking about. He's just talking shit. Just making waves. Trying to get decontextualized and and have this be bulletin board material even though he's not even watching. Like we're. We're doing the nonsense we like we're saying Brad Marchand is a bad person. Just a bad person. Don't put me.
Chris Cody
I'm not like an old timey radio.
Roy Bellamy
We've been doing.
Mike Ryan
We've been doing like show. But also said hey remember last year when Kucherov was totally neutralized. Wonder if they could do that again. They brought in Jake Gintel. This is a guy that can disappear at times. So it's not the same tank.
Jon Weiner
We covered this well before Zaslow had the perfect words.
Dan Le Batard
They knew Trauva was a Banajad.
Jon Weiner
That's.
Chris Cody
And they don't know what they're talking about. Say for some reason you slipped into that Billy Ray Bates not Gates. So find me but I'm not $50 because I didn't claim that he was dead like Inside the NBA did. And then they had to issue an apology and it was a whole thing.
Billy Gill
I actually have the sound of NBA on TNT apologizing and we welcome you back.
Zaslow
We would like to issue a correction and an apology for something that happened last night on Inside the NBA. We were talking about Billy Ray Bates who back in 1980 had one of the NBA's best playoff debuts coming off the bench with 29 points. In the course of our discussion, we passed on some bad information that Billy Ray Bates had passed away. While it was inadvertent, it was also inaccurate and insensitive and inexcusable. In short, we screwed up and we apologize to Billy Ray Bates and his family.
Dan Le Batard
Obviously very sincere from Ernie Johnson. But I just like the idea that somebody one night calls Billy Ray Bates. Hey talked about you went inside the NBA. It's like whoa.
Jon Weiner
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
They Said, you're dead.
Jon Weiner
You guys do understand that Ernie Johnson earned his money right there. They send him out. Yeah, Enough with the rodeo clowns. Yeah, Shaq has to go to the bathroom. But when we kill somebody as a show, inadvertently, we send Ernie out with sincere remorse, and everyone's like, that's an apology.
Dan Le Batard
It was super professional.
Jon Weiner
And everyone backs off, and the joke is gone. And you can't do anything with it because Ernie's the neutralizer there, and he helps bring a gravitas to everybody just fooling around.
Chris Cody
I would argue that because of him, they can make the joke because they can just be like, he'll clean this up for us. We can be as. As glib as we want. Also, Billy Ray Bates is only 68, so, like, they're killing someone who's not, you know, he's still in his prime.
Jon Weiner
It's the danger of live television, and it's one of the reasons that show is so great. And there's unlike anything in the history of sports, something that exists between and around games to just carry you for four, five, six hours.
Mike Ryan
Has 68 ever been described as someone's prime?
Chris Cody
I think 68 is the new 58.
Jon Weiner
We was 58.
Chris Cody
Ever considered someone's prime when it became the new 48?
Roy Bellamy
I was gonna say 58 I've heard is the new 48. Do you guys see George Clooney? He looks like shit, huh? Like that dyed black hair. When he said the same thing when he said, I'm 63, I go, wow, you look damn near 85. Why did you do this?
Dan Le Batard
Really?
Roy Bellamy
Can you believe he's only 63? He looks horrific for 63.
Chris Cody
This show loves to talk about the attractiveness of men while I'm just sitting here listening to all of your opinions. Yeah, he has a bad.
Roy Bellamy
I'm sorry. Men can't think men are attractive. Why is that?
Chris Cody
Of course they can. Arbiters. That's a terrible thing.
Dan Le Batard
I don't like that that's what he looks like.
Roy Bellamy
It's not a magic camera. That's what he looks like.
Billy Gill
I'm with Jess, though. It's the hair dye.
Chris Cody
It's the dye. And this is a. This is terrible.
Roy Bellamy
My father should not look more attractive than George Clooney. That is a rule of my life, my entire life. And he does now because of what George Clooney did to his head.
Mike Ryan
It's for a role.
Chris Cody
Let's see what your dad looks like.
Mike Ryan
I mean, George Clooney.
Roy Bellamy
What my dad looks like?
Chris Cody
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
George Clooney has Been the most transparent dude when it comes to embracing his gray hair.
Chris Cody
His skin's literally transparent in that picture.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Dan Le Batard
So what changed?
Mike Ryan
He's doing that for a role. Like, he looks worse because the role. Yes, It's a bad day job. It's supposed to be.
Billy Gill
He's on Broadway, right? It's on Broadway, Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Broadway role. That's why everyone's like, wow, what a clear, obvious hijab. Yeah, it is. George Clooney's never been embarrassed of his gray hair. In fact, he made it look sexy as hell.
Jon Weiner
Can we have a dad off right now? I'd like Mike Ryan's dad up there, and I'd like a picture of Billy's dad as well, next to George Clooney. George Clooney is meant to look like something that exists in the age of the flappers. That looks like a character from the 1920s. That looks like a prohibition character. I'm guessing he's making a movie in the 1930s. You have now taken out George Clooney as well.
Roy Bellamy
Did he look good there?
Jon Weiner
No, he did not look good. He looked.
Billy Gill
It looked like Billy's spitting today.
Jon Weiner
It looked like a wax figure of George Clooney or a eye of George Clooney. George Clooney is allowed to age.
Mike Ryan
But, guys, this is like looking at a pic of Dallas Buyers Club and say, wow, McConaughey aged like shit.
Roy Bellamy
He did.
Dan Le Batard
Do you think when he's out like that, does he whisper to people as he walks by? It's for a role.
Jon Weiner
It's for a role.
Mike Ryan
The interview was he was promoting the role.
Roy Bellamy
I mean, you made, like, a billion dollars on your tequila. You don't take roles that make you look like crap. Billy, just go enjoy your money. Enjoy your rich lawyer wife as well, and go and live your life in Italy or wherever you live. And, like, what is. What is he besides ego? What does George Clooney need to do movies for at this point in time?
Billy Gill
But at least the Dallas Buyers Club, that role was, like, a drug addict. Like, is this role that Clooney's playing, He's wearing, like, a suit and is supposed to look like a nice person, and he looks terrible. Like, there's a difference.
Roy Bellamy
Is he a drug addict? No.
Mike Ryan
No. And he doesn't have AIDS in this one. George Clooney is supposed to be playing Edward R. Morrow. This is good night and good luck.
Chris Cody
Oh, I mean that. He kind of looks like him. I'm not gonna. I mean, this is good casting just for a role.
Jon Weiner
Well, what Billy is doing Though not understanding why George Clooney would want to make movies is. And it's understandable. But some people do like to work, Billy. Like, some people do enjoy working and making things.
Roy Bellamy
Okay.
Chris Cody
Rich people do love to work the most, though, and also they have to work the least. So figure that one out.
Billy Gill
It does make more sense after I see what Edward R. Murrow looks like. Yeah, it's kind of what he's going for.
Mike Ryan
Facts do that.
Chris Cody
Are you.
Roy Bellamy
I mean, you guys want to have no fun today, huh?
Jon Weiner
Well, you've taken out four people, three of them by comparing them to shit. So you.
Roy Bellamy
Well, normally people follow me down the path and we like to laugh. Yes.
Jon Weiner
And you're complaining about our. Yes. And that's interesting, sir.
Mike Ryan
We're not buying in.
Jon Weiner
That's an interesting thing to hear. The Clippers last night, Zaslow. I don't know what we're going to do with this when we have to go back in time and say that Ty Lue has won a championship, James Harden has won a championship, and Kawhi Leonard is the only thing that existed in the LeBron age that made him look over his shoulder and say, I fear him coming into a game because he's got those giant hands. I don't think people understand. This is the last person to win by himself in the league that has a bunch of super teams all around it. And he did it. Not physically capable. He broke down during that run. I think the only thing that can stop the Clippers this year is some sort of health issue, because what they put on the floor last night, I think can beat anybody. And Jokic is telling you after the game, remember in the bubble when I told you guys that that Utah Denver series in the first round? The best basketball I've ever seen in my life. Just Utah and Denver with Donovan Mitchell on Utah going back and forth. It was the most perfect, beautiful basketball I've ever seen. Jokic is telling you after last night's game, that's the best that basketball can be played. And Kawhi Leonard took him out.
Dan Le Batard
This is my favorite thing about the NBA playoffs because literally, game to game, the swing of the pendulum is so extreme. And while I agree with everything you just said, because Kawhi Leonard looks like the best player in the NBA right now, and Jokic was in that same game. And the Clippers look like a championship team. But, man, like, isn't there still this cloud hanging over all of us?
Jon Weiner
Right?
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Jon Weiner
At any minute, you can't trust it.
Dan Le Batard
Any minute.
Jon Weiner
No, but it can't be trusted. But it's why I'm rooting for it so much because what the hell is the analysis going to be after that wins? Like, oh, we weren't talking about them at all all season and we thought that the Paul George trade, when Kawhi went there, was going to be a big deal and it hasn't been. But the Clippers are no longer a laughingstock and are in the most successful run the Clippers have ever had as a franchise because the trade kind of worked, but it also made OKC better. And you will have to acknowledge if the Clippers win the championship, the Clippers win the championship.
Dan Le Batard
What a stupid thing to say.
Jon Weiner
It's an. It's a ridiculous. It's an asinine thing to say. It's an asinine thing to say. But they can, they can really confuse every analyst talking about basketball. If it would be the most confusing title winner there's ever been, it'd be.
Mike Ryan
Really confusing with Harden, who's been good for them and has been one of those rare superstars that goes to Los Angeles and becomes less of a star. It got quiet around James Harden because he wasn't, I guess, holding teams hostage like he usually did. Like he is hugely invaluable to what they do on offense. And with the Kawhi thing, it's shocking when Kawhi plays like that. It's somehow less shocking if it's announced he's out for Game three and we didn't know it like it. That's he is such a unique case study. I don't think anyone has faith that he could actually do this for an entire playoff run.
Jon Weiner
Oh, but you root for it, do you not?
Mike Ryan
Or is it would love to see it because it would be hugely confusing.
Jon Weiner
The part beyond that, unconfusing. So you've got this part where what are they doing in the middle of the conference? Is this going to be a thing now where the Mavericks can do it one year from the middle of the conference and all you really do need to have is veterans? But the other part of it that's going to be impossible to get your arms around on Face of the League on I'm not sure about the Celtics is Kawhi, James Harden and Zubak are giving you nothing in the way of personality. Like personality where okay, I'll make a New Balance commercial around Kawhi, but he won't say anything. And like in terms of star power giving you charisma, they will give you less per square foot than any Stardom champion in that entire sport.
Mike Ryan
I'm really curious to see who makes a deeper run, who makes a Finals run. Because if you stack up the last few years in the NBA in terms of the teams that get to the Finals, it's been really unpredictable compared to the NBA that we grew up six.
Dan Le Batard
Straight years, different champs, which has never ever happened.
Mike Ryan
It's crazy. And just think of these runs. Miami Heat doing it as an eight seed. A random NBA final seemingly with the Suns and Bucks in the middle of it. In the day and age of player rest and load management and play ins, teams are approaching the regular season way differently to the point that they can make people sound really foolish with their analysis because these teams themselves aren't taking it seriously. And now for the first time in our lives, they can actually make a run from one of those lower seeds.
Dan Le Batard
But this is different though, right, with Kawhi, because it used to be, hey, you know, it'd be the worst case scenario if Team X wins the NBA Finals because you know, the player has been resting, hasn't played throughout the season, load management and all that bs. But that's not what's happening with Kawhi Leonard.
Jon Weiner
Right?
Dan Le Batard
Like we, like we can clearly understand that this is a guy who has a chronic severe issue with his knee.
Jon Weiner
That is correct. So much so that it broke apart his relationship with the spurs where he won championships. And I would say that what it is that he did last night is remind you that if he can do that across three or four series, you know that's as good as can be played. You know that he can take out anybody if he's that. The problem with aging is he's 33 and we know those are nubs. Like when we saw him win the championship. Getting to those final games, you know, you get Kevin Durant blows a tire, Klay Thompson blows a tire, and at the end hobbled after making Joel Embiid cry and knocking out Jimmy Butler, Kawhi Leonard wins. But it's with Old Man Game. Because this run through these teams in this conference, you cannot bet on that to stay healthy and be that every night.
Mike Ryan
We were saying it during the run and occasionally they'll show those games on NBA tv. And it's so strange to watch Kawhi Leonard dominate a series when you think about the players that were on that court in history will remember that finals for who wasn't on the court, but he very rarely has two feet off the ground in that entire series. You can't slide a phone book under his feet. He has zero explosion and he is still unguardable, putting a team on his shoulders.
Dan Le Batard
And by the way, all those numbers you see in the box last night, I mean, 15 of 1939 points. There's so much more that doesn't show up in that box score that he is doing out there. Like, if you're paying it, he is dominating the entire game right now.
Jon Weiner
It's hard. There has never been a superstar in this sport. Never. Not one that has all of these things. Where Stephen A. Is comfortable on television calling him a thief and saying it's the worst, that he should retire, it's the worst contract that he should retire, that it's the worst contract he's ever seen. Crushing him. Kawhi never speaks back. Doesn't show you much in the way of personality, but the physical size of his hands and the amount of strength that he has. This person is on the cusp of having a legacy that's mythical that you ain't gonna be able to explain to any of your kids.
Dan Le Batard
Wasn't there that one replay one year where he blocked someone's dunk with his finger? Remember, they slowed down the replay and just his finger.
Jon Weiner
He's on the ball, he's ridiculously strong and we've forgotten about him. And it's fun to have somebody as a mercenary appear. Let's see these photos right now of George Clooney, Billy's dad, and Mike Ryan's dad. I believe we've got a dad off here. We've got a dad off.
Billy Gill
Dadding off. Great game last night.
Mike Ryan
You know, I think Sue Gods can finally say he looks like Clooney and not be totally off base.
Chris Cody
Billy's dad. Easily. If this is what we're working with.
Dan Le Batard
I think Clooney's closed.
Jon Weiner
Clooney's in third place. The Clooney's the bronze medalist as Edward R. Murrow.
Chris Cody
Is he obsessed with Edward R. Murrow? Didn't he play Fred Friendly in Goodnight and Good Luck?
Jon Weiner
Didn't Pablo win an Edward R. Murrow Award of some sort?
Chris Cody
Does Chris know who Edward R. Murrow is?
Billy Gill
I know, but tell Roy what I don't tell him I know.
Mike Ryan
He's a third liner for Tampa.
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Roy Bellamy
Don Le Batar I thought that we were past the Lightning, that we were better than the Lightning and we didn't give the Lightning any mind. This is loser mentality.
Mike Ryan
No, no. Last year's shirt was World War Three. Yeah, our group chat has a good feeling about this.
Roy Bellamy
The pants, the Lightning, the Lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just going to come right out and tell you right now. We have surpassed the Lightning. They're not a formidable foe. They're a joke. St I don't take them seriously at all. Strike me by Lightning. I don't care. Nothing's going to happen to me. Lightning are soft. I'm not giving them any mind. I'm not paying attention to them. This series. On to the next round. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
Jon Weiner
Why don't you guess? Chris? Let's play the Game. I. I would like to play the game, the new game with Chris Cody of Guess, a famous historical figure. What it is that they did or do? Get me what your thoughts are. Chris on all I gotta find them.
Roy Bellamy
I don't know.
Billy Gill
R. Murrow.
Jon Weiner
Just who do you think he is? What does that sound like to you? We'll give you some time here to think about it.
Mike Ryan
Thank you.
Jon Weiner
Don't check the computer in the interim, Billy, because you want to have fun. I'm going to entertain you with a bat flip. I'm going to give you a bat flip here so that you can enjoy. You can enjoy today's show despite your sickness, do you believe that this is the greatest bat flip in the history of bat flips?
Dan Le Batard
Whoa.
Billy Gill
And for the audio audience, it is as cartoonish a bat flip as you could possibly imagine.
Jon Weiner
Okay, so it is.
Roy Bellamy
Red Sox prospect Alex Lugo had a walk off ground rule double and threw the ball into outer space. You know, like the shot.
Jon Weiner
The bat.
Roy Bellamy
The bat. The bat, yeah.
Dan Le Batard
You know, 100ft in the air.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah. When you zoom out, like in a baseball game to see what would be a home run, that you lose view of the hitter. This bat comes into that shot, goes out of the top of that shot, and then comes back down. Because of how high he threw the.
Chris Cody
Bat, this bat is making the same wee noise that Kevin Durant made when he was going down the slide in France this summer.
Jon Weiner
I wanted to talk about camera work here, because if you haven't seen the studio on Apple plus, it's tremendous. And the way that they're filming it is really unusual. They're just using, like a couple of handheld cameras, and it looks pristine. It looks more expensive and beautiful than anything you've seen on video. This minor league footage, grainy as it is, the lack of cameras here absolutely make this the shot that it is, because they've only got two cameras, one in front of the plate and one behind the plate. When they go out to show you where the ball is going in center field, you see the bat come into the frame, and it looks like it's being thrown 300ft into the sky, like, legitimately. I didn't think that the physics of that would allow him to throw that underhanded, that high. I think from that angle, it looks like it has to be thrown overhand. Like it has to be thrown as. As far as someone can throw a bat. I now want the other angle to see how he got the bat that high.
Dan Le Batard
There's no way he meant to throw it that high. Right.
Billy Gill
How do you accidentally do that? I mean, I think pretty intense.
Jon Weiner
Billy, there's no way. Billy, there's no way. That's what you think. That happened with one hand? That one arm? Oh, no.
Roy Bellamy
They're strong then.
Jon Weiner
I think that was both hands. I think he took that between his legs granny style and flipped it up with. Yes. We got to call him and find out. We got. I got to find out about this because we don't have a camera angle because it's the minor league, so we don't have access to more footage here. Thank you. Billy, was there a brawl after?
Roy Bellamy
Now is the end of the game is a walk off.
Dan Le Batard
I think there still should have been a brawl.
Jon Weiner
Oh, in the celebration? Yeah, during the celebration.
Dan Le Batard
It's obscene that back.
Jon Weiner
Yes, yes, it is. There's.
Billy Gill
Hopefully he's not in like his team's not in the first base dugout. Because I imagine the players running out onto the field to celebrate and there's a bat. Like all of a sudden they're having to dodge a bat.
Jon Weiner
Let me ask you guys this question because we are headed into a whole bunch of national anthems. A bunch of patriotic pride. A bunch of. Canada doesn't like the United States right now for a lot of very valid reasons. And last night before a hockey game, if I say to you in the hypothetical, everybody in this room, how do you guys feel about harmonicas as a national anth? Do you guys feel like that will work as a concept or not work? Harmonicas for America.
Roy Bellamy
The American national Star Spangled Banner for our national anthem.
Jon Weiner
Thank you.
Dan Le Batard
I'm going to hear it out.
Jon Weiner
I'm glad that you're open about this. I'm going to say dozens. Dozens of harmonicas. Do you guys like this idea or think it's a bad idea? Let's. Let's make it just. I don't know how many harmonicas. I see three on the screen. Let's see what we've got here.
Billy Gill
How do we feel so far about this, Roy?
Jon Weiner
What are you laughing about? A terrible idea. Poorly executed. Correct.
Mike Ryan
All the players are shaking their heads right now.
Jon Weiner
Well, but it's just terrible. It's not moving. It's not patriotic.
Roy Bellamy
It's great.
Jon Weiner
It's just squeaky singing.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Jon Weiner
So you guys like this? I think.
Roy Bellamy
I think it's like a bunch of Asian grandmas, too.
Jon Weiner
The harmonica is not a star. The harmonica can't. It's. It's not a one. The. The harmonica is a two or three or four. You can't win. You can't win the anthem with the harmonica as your number one.
Dan Le Batard
I don't like it.
Billy Gill
You gave it a chance. We appreciate that.
Jon Weiner
Do you find it disrespectful?
Roy Bellamy
It just.
Dan Le Batard
It sounds like they're playing the tunes on Play School Toys.
Jon Weiner
Chris Cody, who is Edward R. Murrow?
Billy Gill
He. He clearly is the man that invented the microwave.
Roy Bellamy
Yes.
Mike Ryan
Oh, for sake. I like this game. I'd like to ask you some more.
Jon Weiner
Questions before you do so. Can I get another angle on that bat flip? Can I get an answer to my question? What are the bets you guys are still betting? That's a one. One Armed Bat flip. What is? I'm going to guess two. Armed. Do we have proof here? Let's see. We do have proof. This is very good. A third camera angle. That's so minorly baseball. It's just so good.
Roy Bellamy
8K pitch clock. I mean, Jason, here's the wind up.
Jon Weiner
I'm the only one who says it's both arms, right?
Billy Gill
Oh, he said clearly just his right arm.
Jon Weiner
Just his right arm.
Roy Bellamy
I think it was left arm.
Dan Le Batard
No, so strong.
Roy Bellamy
I think it was left arm. He went up with it, stayed in this hand, then went up with it.
Chris Cody
I thought it was left and it was kind of underhand, like a little back.
Jon Weiner
It wasn't even that hard for him to do. He really flipped it the hell up there without much strength at all.
Dan Le Batard
Do we have video of the brawl that ensued?
Jon Weiner
It should have ensued. Mike, go ahead and quiz Chris Cody on historical figures that he's not likely to know after taking out notaries yesterday, even though his mom is the head of a big law firm.
Billy Gill
Think my mom's dealing with notaries.
Mike Ryan
Chris Cody, do you know who Henry Kissinger is?
Billy Gill
He invented kissing.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, that's right.
Mike Ryan
How about Jimmy Hoffa?
Billy Gill
Jimmy Hoffa is one of the first broadcasters in sports history.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Mike Ryan
Do you know who George Orwell is?
Billy Gill
He invented Wells Ors.
Roy Bellamy
Sorry.
Mike Ryan
Manuel Noriega.
Billy Gill
Ah, Manuel.
Mike Ryan
What was that?
Billy Gill
I don't know what that. That one. I don't know the other ones.
Mike Ryan
I all knew Woodward and Bernstein.
Jon Weiner
All right, we'll come back to this.
Mike Ryan
Wait, I got one more. Rachel Phelps, actress. She's a fictional owner of the Cleveland Indians, a major league.
Jon Weiner
I won. You were actually the closest on Terry Bollea. We will come back in a second. Zazzle. What are you smirking about? We will come back in a second to grilling Chris Cody on things he doesn't know. It's an endless stream. But before we do that, I want to ask you guys if this is real, what I'm about to show you, if it's real, because I am getting fooled by the Internet all the time. As we know around here, the aging process is cruel. And so I have to double and triple check whether things are real. And I thought this was a bit. I thought that somebody was acting. And I'm really confused by two twins who are answering a question here about a crime that happened in Australia, a carjacking. And these are two identical twins. They're being interviewed by a reporter. And I didn't think this was a thing. I didn't think that was possible. I Thought I was being fooled by the Internet. It felt like two twins are sharing a brain. Even though they're not Siamese twins, they're just identical twins. So explain to me how this can possibly be real only to find the.
Unknown
Gun wielding car thief emerging from the wreck. Here's some of what they had to say. And one guy, he was up there with our mum and he, he went up there and he was coming back down towards us and he goes, run, he's got a gun. And oh, our heart started to pound and I said, well mum, where's mum? And poor mum was stuck up there. But apparently our brave mum, she goes, are you all right? Because he had all blood all over his face. And he goes, goes, I'll shoot you. She goes, hey, I'm here to help. And mum distracted him to make him look the other way and he looked the other way. And mum ran into the bush behind the fence.
Chris Cody
Fence.
Unknown
And the guy goes to her, I'll find you and I'll shoot you all. I was thinking about when, when we were running. I hope he doesn't fire. Yeah, we were so blessed.
Chris Cody
How close to him do you think you were?
Unknown
Well, see, he was up there and we were passed out driveway. You don't think of all of that at the time. No, you just run for your life, dear.
Jon Weiner
That is amazing, disorienting, awe inspiring, super creepy. And I don't understand it.
Chris Cody
So I googled this because I saw this online and I was like, this is probably from some like parody show that I'm unaware of. It can't be real. But apparently according to people.com, they're well known in Queensland for running an animal rescue organization. And they were the subject of a 2016 Good Morning Britain segment in which Piers Morgan laughed at their synchronized answers. So this is this sort of, I don't know if you call it a bit, but this sort of shtick thing has been, has been their thing for a while now.
Billy Gill
My wife is a twin and there are times where my wife and her sister are in the same room and you ask a question and they will say a single answer in unison where you're like, that's weird. But this is just that times 50.
Jon Weiner
Like there is a brain being shared there in a way that I don't understand and I don't even want to mock simply because I don't understand. None of us understand it, right? Like I'm, I'm introducing this to people and next to nobody knows or understands what's happening there, right?
Dan Le Batard
Who the hell can understand that? I don't like it. I don't like it.
Mike Ryan
You don't like it?
Dan Le Batard
I don't like it.
Chris Cody
Is it the accent? You don't. You don't understand.
Jon Weiner
Ner it. I. Okay, so I'm gonna try and articulate what he's not articulating. Well, see, I. I don't think. I don't feel like I should be with Zaz, but there's something in there that's haunting. Right?
Dan Le Batard
Do you like. Do you like it?
Jon Weiner
I mean, I like it as content. I like being disoriented by it. I like how awkward and confused it. Like, I like the discomfort of it. I like how far away from the microphone Mike is.
Dan Le Batard
You don't like it?
Chris Cody
He's just chilling back here. It's weird.
Jon Weiner
Can you please just medically explain to me? Because what is happening there? My guess is that this is something that a handful or some twins can do.
Mike Ryan
Well, doctor, I can't diagnose it from the video that I saw, but it did seem like one was trailing. Yeah, great deal.
Billy Gill
One was the leader.
Chris Cody
It seems like a case of the repeaties where you repeat what the other person next to you is saying.
Jon Weiner
Wow. So you're calling them frauds? You guys are calling them. You're calling this some form of grift, that they can act this out?
Billy Gill
That's impressive, what they're doing.
Mike Ryan
Honestly, clearly done media before, and this might just be their thing. I'm sure there's some synchronicity, but it looks like it's a bit amplified from that video because you could see one twins, like, looking at the other's mouth.
Jon Weiner
Billy, they're calling. I mean, I am now uncomfortable. Hold on a second. Because this is, like, time to throw.
Roy Bellamy
Away all journalistic credibility and get reckless.
Jon Weiner
Here is something we like to call reckless speculation.
Mike Ryan
You're good.
Jon Weiner
What's the accusation you're making?
Mike Ryan
The accusation is that there might be some synchronicity, but they amplify it because it's their thing. Yeah, it's my allegation. Did you know the CIA declassified a UFO report that said there were three small beings that came out formed one, being looked at 20 plus Soviet soldiers and turned them into stone.
Dan Le Batard
I have less of a problem understanding that.
Jon Weiner
That should get some coverage. We should cover that. Things are moving fast.
Chris Cody
It's like the plot of the Hobbit, Mike. I just simply don't believe that that is true.
Mike Ryan
Check it out for yourself, man.
Roy Bellamy
It's on Easter Island.
Mike Ryan
It was out there. It was. Those weren't the Soviets. And you know like we, we found the Ark of the Covenant and we're just all like moving on with our lives. They found it in the 80s and the CIA report was like it's guarded by an entity. And you know, this is, this stuff is out there. We don't know what to do with it.
Jon Weiner
There is an amount of information that is now just we are being bombarded by and an amount of misinformation of not knowing what's real and what's not. Are those twins acting? Are they grift or is that just a shared brain? There's so much out there right now that all of us are being flooded by it. And you cannot keep up with all of the things that are happening in the world.
Mike Ryan
They turn to stone. They turn to stone. This is not since Sodom and Gomorrah have we seen anything like that.
Jon Weiner
Let's lighten it up a little bit around here. Stugach yesterday. Yesterday Stugach was just killing. Wrestling is fake. That was his take. And Zasla wanted to celebrate. John Cena 17 time champion. I know Mike Ryan wants to celebrate Wrestlemania. We can do it better than Stugatz just simply saying it's fake.
Mike Ryan
I got a bone to pick with Stu Guts made it seem like he hooked me up with Dead and company tickets.
Jon Weiner
We covered some of this yesterday and people agreed that Stugatz got you tickets. And I was like, I don't think that's getting him tickets.
Mike Ryan
No, like I checked. I could have gotten the same ticket on the primary market.
Billy Gill
Oh then nevermind. See, no, he made it seem like, like that all only available were really expensive Second market. And he got you face value.
Jon Weiner
Yeah, that.
Billy Gill
Which is you would admit if that's what he did, that is getting somebody.
Mike Ryan
No, no. He gave me GA tickets and I literally cross referenced it like because it was, it was expensive. So like okay, lied that Stu got.
Billy Gill
Painted it as he got you face value when all that was available was.
Jon Weiner
Yeah.
Billy Gill
Second market.
Mike Ryan
No, no, no. Trust me.
Billy Gill
No, we're not. We believe you. Trust me.
Mike Ryan
And then he was like complaining that, that I wanted. That I'm the worst person to get tickets for. Again. I paid for the tickets because I wanted to know all the details. I'm sorry. I wanted to know where I pick up my tickets. I literally traveled in that day and had no idea how to actually get the tickets you said you got for me. That I could have avoided all this hassle by just going to the primary market.
Roy Bellamy
Well, what Happens.
Dan Le Batard
Does he send you a text saying, I got you tickets, and then he thinks it's all right, go find them?
Mike Ryan
I mean, I never really. I never really thought that he wouldn't come through with a ticket, but I was kind of anticipating some Stugazi type of mess around it. But I do know that when he. He sees it dead all the time. When Stu legitimately wants to get tickets, he can purchase them with relative ease because he has someone direct to go through there. So I was just trying to go through Stu because he's always offered, but he didn't hook me up.
Dan Le Batard
What were you expecting, though? Like, as far as a hookup, I.
Mike Ryan
Got exactly what I expected. I would have preferred, like, a better deal. Like, he kept saying, like, face value. Yeah, there were tickets available for face value.
Jon Weiner
I'm not actually interested in the details as much as I'm interested in your appraisal of did he get you tickets or did he not get you tickets because he told people he got you tickets, and in doing so, it was made to look like he hooked you up?
Mike Ryan
Like, yes, I understand how the optics of. Well, Mike, you went to see Dead and Company on Thursday, and he got you the tickets on Thursday. Yeah, but I asked for it months earlier, and I could have gotten the Dead and Company tickets months earlier for myself had I not had a Stugotz element. I would have been responsible, had the same tickets.
Jon Weiner
You're making faces during this. Your appraisal is what? I don't know what these faces mean.
Roy Bellamy
I know. I'm just listening to the story for the first time. I don't have any backstory, but it sounds like he said he was gonna do something, and then you said you got exactly what you expected from him. So I don't really understand the gripe.
Mike Ryan
Well, the gripe is you wanted him.
Roy Bellamy
To go above and beyond what you expect.
Mike Ryan
My gripe is how he's presenting it. Like, he went over above and beyond when he just, like, sent an email to a guy that I paid full price for tickets and I didn't get, like, any extra access. Like, and all I asked for him. Like, he made me sound like some hound. He wouldn't tell me where I could pick up my tickets. I think I was pretty chill about.
Jon Weiner
It in journalism, and I still want to get to WrestleMania with you. You like to have two sources to confirm a story, and another source is just written in. He did it to me with Nick's heat when I asked for tickets for my birthday.
Roy Bellamy
Well, no, that person. I know exactly who is sending you that? Because I know that I'm not going to say that person wanted him to give him tickets for free. And what he did was he connected him with the person that gets tickets for him, and then he was surprised when he had to pay for tickets because he was asking for free tickets from stuff.
Chris Cody
Fair question, though. If you're. If someone's offering to hook you up with tickets, does it imply they're paying for said tickets?
Jon Weiner
This is the question I'm asking.
Billy Gill
How rich are they? This is an important thing. If they're rich, then I kind of expect them to pay.
Roy Bellamy
I mean, but you guys are all adults. Like, you just reach out to people asking them to give you free tickets.
Dan Le Batard
I think the wording is important. Hook you up with tickets implies prompt. Set you up with tickets means there's an avenue for you to get the ticket.
Billy Gill
This is a semantics thing.
Mike Ryan
I went through Sugat's because he always said, anytime you want to see the Dead, hit me up.
Billy Gill
Oh, yeah, he says that a lot.
Mike Ryan
So I'm thinking like, oh, there's like some unique special access that I wouldn't have. Normal. Like I was in a will call place that was for friends and family. But it just meant the line that I didn't know I had to go to until hours before the event would be shorter. That's the only convenience that I got. And totally good with that. I'm good paying with tickets. I'm good with all of that. This is exactly what I expected, down to the Sugats experience. But don't paint it as you hooked me up with something like that. I was just. I could have gone through some other guy.
Jon Weiner
Billy, I'm still unclear on your appraisal because where do you side in all of this?
Roy Bellamy
It seems like I'm just an impartial observer just taking it all in. You asked you guys to get you tickets. He told you the place to get tickets. You didn't have to wait in a line. You say you're not upset about it, but you seem upset about it because he lied.
Mike Ryan
He made it seem like something he's not when I could have just gone to Game Time. You downloaded Game Time.
Roy Bellamy
What do you expect?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, no, I expected everything that I got outside of him just presenting it one way on the air. Because Game Time, I actually used Game Time last night. I went to Monday Night Raw and I went to Game Time and I got tickets to Monday Night Raw. It was incredible. It was a Raw after Mania. It delivered. Hey, guys, download the GameTime app. Do what I did. Create an account and use the code DAN for $20 off your first purchase terms. Apply Download Gametime today. This was so great because I wasn't familiar with the new raw setup for the Netflix.
Dan Le Batard
It's good, right? It's a minimalistic setup. I like that.
Mike Ryan
But I have panoramic seat views on the app so I'm knew exactly what I was getting into. Last minute tickets, lowest price guaranteed. Chris Cody what time is it?
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Episode Summary: The Big Suey: The Twins Who Share a Brain
Release Date: April 22, 2025
In this engaging episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" titled "The Big Suey: The Twins Who Share a Brain," hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz delve into a variety of compelling topics ranging from sports analyses to intriguing human interest stories. The episode is structured into clear segments, each offering unique insights and lively discussions, making it both informative and entertaining for listeners.
Roy Bellamy kicks off the episode with a bold statement about the Tampa Bay Lightning, asserting, "The Lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just going to come right out and tell you right now. We have surpassed the Lightning. They're not a formidable foe." ([23:38])
The hosts engage in a spirited debate over the Lightning's performance in the current season, questioning their standing and future prospects. Mike Ryan and Jon Weiner analyze the team's strategies and recent games, discussing whether the Lightning still pose a significant threat in the league. This segment highlights the evolving dynamics within the NHL and sets the stage for deeper sports conversations.
Transitioning to the NBA playoffs, the discussion intensifies around Kawhi Leonard and the Los Angeles Clippers. Jon Weiner praises Leonard's formidable skills, noting, "He has zero explosion and he is still unguardable, putting a team on his shoulders." ([18:16])
Dan Le Batard expresses his fascination with the unpredictability of the playoffs, stating, "This is my favorite thing about the NBA playoffs because literally, game to game, the swing of the pendulum is so extreme." ([13:01])
The hosts delve into Leonard's impact on the Clippers, his resilience despite chronic knee issues, and the broader implications for the team's championship aspirations. They also touch upon Nikola Jokić's commendations about the quality of basketball, further enriching the analysis.
A standout segment features a mesmerizing phenomenon involving identical twins who appear to share a brain. Jon Weiner introduces a video showcasing two twins responding to a reporter's questions in perfect unison, leaving the hosts and listeners baffled.
Jon remarks, "It felt like two twins are sharing a brain. Even though they're not Siamese twins, they're just identical twins." ([32:00])
Upon researching, Chris Cody reveals that the twins are well-known in Queensland for running an animal rescue organization and have been featured on shows like Good Morning Britain for their synchronized responses: "They were the subject of a 2016 Good Morning Britain segment in which Piers Morgan laughed at their synchronized answers." ([35:04])
The hosts debate the authenticity of the twins' synchronization—whether it's a natural phenomenon or a well-rehearsed act. Dan Le Batard sums up his skepticism with, "Who the hell can understand that? I don't like it." ([35:53])
The episode takes a personal turn as Mike Ryan shares a story about attempting to secure concert tickets through Stu Gotz. Mike explains, "He gave me GA tickets and I literally cross-referenced it like because it was expensive. So like okay, lied that he hooked me up with something like that." ([43:03])
Jon Weiner probes into the situation, questioning whether Stu Gotz genuinely secured the tickets or if there was a miscommunication: "If someone's offering to hook you up with tickets, does it imply they're paying for said tickets?" ([43:01])
This candid exchange highlights the humorous and sometimes complicated dynamics among the hosts, adding a relatable and entertaining element to the episode.
Throughout the episode, the hosts engage in playful banter and interactive segments. A notable moment includes a historical figure guessing game where Chris Cody humorously misidentifies Edward R. Murrow as the inventor of the microwave: "He invented the microwave." ([29:58])
Additionally, the discussion touches on broader topics such as aging, celebrity appearances (notably George Clooney's roles), and the unpredictability of live sports broadcasts, all delivered with the show’s characteristic humor and wit.
Roy Bellamy: "The Lightning aren't shit to me. I'm just going to come right out and tell you right now." ([23:38])
Jon Weiner: "It felt like two twins are sharing a brain. Even though they're not Siamese twins, they're just identical twins." ([32:00])
Dan Le Batard: "Who the hell can understand that? I don't like it." ([35:53])
Mike Ryan: "George Clooney has Been the most transparent dude when it comes to embracing his gray hair." ([09:00])
This episode masterfully blends sports analysis with human interest stories, all while maintaining a lively and humorous tone. The hosts' ability to navigate complex topics—from the strategic intricacies of professional sports teams to the enigmatic synchronization of identical twins—demonstrates their depth of knowledge and engaging personalities. Whether dissecting the Clippers' playoff run or pondering the mysteries of shared cognition, Dan Le Batard and Stugotz deliver an episode that is both thought-provoking and thoroughly entertaining.
This comprehensive summary captures all the key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from the episode, providing a clear and engaging overview for those who haven't listened to the show.