The Big Suey: Tony's GuaranTee (feat. Dave Dameshek)

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: Tony's GuaranTee (feat. Dave Dameshek)
Date: December 19, 2025
Guest: Dave Dameshek

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This episode of "The Big Suey" from the Dan Le Batard Show is a rollicking mix of sports banter, football analysis, nostalgia for college bowl traditions, lively debate over the state of sports, and trademark humor, featuring guest Dave Dameshek. The hosts and panel debate Miami’s football prospects, the state of college football playoffs, and the evolution of NFL parity. The episode is underscored by goofy tangents into wrestling, social media habits, and wild hypotheticals.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Miami Football, Playoff Hopes, and Mario Cristobal’s Legacy

• The panel launches into a heated discussion about Miami's reputation for faltering in big games, Coach Mario Cristobal's track record, and whether this year could be different.
• Trista (off-screen/on past episodes) is cited for arguing Miami “always loses this game,” prompting an extended debate:
  • Dan: “He will lose others as well. But he has never actually won this football game and therefore I will not believe it until after I’ve seen it happen.” (03:01)
• Tony offers his now-infamous "GuaranTee" that Cristobal won't repeat his infamous 2023 clock-management blunder and will “kneel the ball to ice the game away” if Miami’s up late.
  • Tony: “I guarantee you that if the Canes are up at the end of the game and there’s an opportunity to knee the ball to ice the game away, Mario will kneel the ball to ice the game away.” (05:47)

2. Media Narrative and National Perceptions

• Dameshek and Tony spar over “Florida bias” and the reality that nearly no one in the national media believes Miami could win the national title even if they beat Texas A&M.
  • Dave Dameshek: “No real national media is like, you know who has a real shot... Miami really has a shot. Like no one. No one believes that.” (04:02)
• Tony notes Nick Saban has praised Miami, but Dameshek dismisses such coachspeak as posturing.

3. College Football Playoff: Apathy v. Excitement (Nostalgia vs. Progress)

• Dameshek admits apathy toward the expanded playoff system, lamenting that the magic of New Year’s Day bowl games — and a “cleaner” way of deciding a champion — has been lost.
  • Dave Dameshek: “I can't really avoid [being a scrooge] where this college football playoff is concerned...I still pine for...the virtues of the bowl system. New Year's Day was maybe the best day on the sports calendar.” (13:56)
• Dan challenges him, noting that “more meaningful football games” is a consumer win, even at the cost of tradition.
  • Dan: “You have a losing argument because there’s just more football on, more days, and the bowl systems have been eaten up.” (20:21)
• Chris Cody reminisces about the old bowl day sequence and the annual satisfaction of knowing the champion after those games.
  • Chris Cody: “Am I right though, Dan...the Fiesta Bowl used to kick it off...and then on the heels of that, the Cotton Bowl with the Southwestern Conf…Then the granddaddy of them all was a sight to behold with Keith Jackson. And then you had the Orange and Sugar.” (16:23)

4. Tua Tagovailoa, the Postgame “Grab Ass,” and Modern Sportsmanship

• Dave Dameshek, echoing Zaz, points out that fans want rivalry and drama, not postgame camaraderie between rivals:
  • Dameshek: “We don’t want that grab-ass out on the field two seconds after your season ends. You ask us to dilute ourselves and dislike these other people because they wear the wrong logo...meet us halfway.” (11:36)
• The panel riffs on sports “kayfabe,” wrestling narratives (especially Iron Sheik and Hacksaw Jim Duggan), and how those performance elements help fans make sense of sports drama.
  • Dan: “I just wanted to do 30 straight minutes of asking Video to go get me Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Iron Sheik video. And then I remembered all the things the Iron Sheik did…” (10:19)

5. NFL Playoff Parity and Randomness

• The evolution of NFL parity is discussed — how even contenders now get blown out randomly, and how seeding is more crucial than ever.
• The guests bemoan how unlucky or fluky losses can doom a season, as with the Rams and their “catastrophic” loss, equating it to the Dolphins’ meltdown against the Titans.
  • Chris Cody: “I mean it didn’t just damn [the Dolphins] for that season...you can make a decent case that that caused the entire era...to spiral down and now the Rams are in that same spot.” (34:11)
  • Dave Dameshek: “If you have to play an extra game...every Game is going to be a 51-49 type of result, then the Rams may have just doomed themselves.” (35:12)

6. Proposed Playoff Tweaks: Make the Top Seed “Call Out” Their Opponent

• One of the more creative segments: Dameshek pitches the idea that the NFL’s #1 seed, after the Wild Card round, gets to pick their opponent among remaining lower seeds, injecting drama and “grudges” into the postseason.
  • Dameshek: “How about at the end of the wild card round...the number one seeded team...the head coach and their star player go to a podium and they announce who they’ve chosen to play in the divisional round. How exciting would that be?” (27:24)
  • Zaz: “Dave, I’m 100% with you. I’ve lobbied for this in the NBA for years…” (28:32)

7. Social Media, Favorite Follows, and Breath Critiques

• The group swaps favorite social media follows for entertainment, with much local Miami flavor (Flanagan’s Restaurant).
• Dameshek is humorously critiqued for “not breathing” during long stretches of talking.
  • Dave Dameshek: “Just the breath thing. It just...you just were like, non stop. And it was like all the same tonality. My...I just glazed right over.” (44:06)

8. NFL MVP Should be Named After an Icon

• Dameshek proposes the MVP trophy be named after an NFL legend, like the “Brady,” to make the award more iconic in the public imagination.
  • Dameshek: “That’s the assignment for everybody today: Come up with what NFL luminary should we name the NFL trophy after so that it does resonate more...So you get not just the NFL MVP, you’ll remember: I got the Brady.” (45:08)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Miami’s Playoff Chances:

  • “He will lose others as well. But he has never actually won this football game and therefore I will not believe it until after I’ve seen it happen.” – Dan Le Batard (03:01)

• Tony’s “GuaranTee”:

  • “I guarantee you that if the Canes are up at the end of the game and there’s an opportunity to knee the ball to ice the game away, Mario will kneel the ball to ice the game away.” – Tony (05:47)

• On College Football Playoff Apathy:

  • “I still pine for...the virtues of the bowl system. New Year's Day was maybe the best day on the sports calendar...If you did that right now, I submit that would be a cleaner way to evaluate who number one is.” – Dave Dameshek (13:56)

• On Fans Wanting Rivalry, Not Postgame Buddy-Buddy:

  • “We don’t want that grab-ass out on the field two seconds after your season ends...You ask us to dilute ourselves and dislike these other people because they wear the wrong logo on their hats. You got to meet us halfway.” – Dave Dameshek (11:36)

• On Expanding the Playoffs:

  • “If it’s 12 teams, well, the 13th team got screwed...It'll expand the 16 and the 17 will get screwed. There’s not...The virtue of the old system was...there was none of this, this arguing about two loss team versus a three loss team deserving a shot at number one.” – Chris Cody (20:47)

• On the Drama of Fluke Losses:

  • “If you have to play an extra game in a league that has become about coin flips when the teams are fairly close to each other...the Rams may have just doomed themselves.” – Dave Dameshek (35:12)
  • “If we said, hey, we’re going to flip this coin and if it comes up on the wrong side, I'm going to take one of your digits with this knife here. You would want to flip it only twice, not three times. Right.” – Dave Dameshek (44:44)

• On Playoff “Call Out” Twist:

  • “How about at the end of the wild card round...the number one seeded team...announce who they’ve chosen to play...That team’s gonna be pissed off!” – Dave Dameshek (27:24)
  • Zaz adds: “Now that team is like, 'Oh, you think I'm easy? You want to pick on me?'” (28:32)

• On MVP Trophy Renaming:

  • “You’ll remember. I got the Brady, and then you have the cool Brady. That’d be cool, right?” – Dave Dameshek (45:08)

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Segment Timestamps

• Miami Playoff Debate & Tony’s “GuaranTee”:
  02:57–06:15

• Dameshek’s College Football Playoff Apathy & Bowl Nostalgia:
  13:56–21:35

• NFL Playoff Drama, Rams’ Catastrophic Loss:
  33:03–38:55

• Dave’s Playoff “Call Out Your Opponent” Proposal:
  27:24–29:23

• Wrestling Tangent – Iron Sheik & Fan Culture:
  10:19–13:13

• Social Media Follows & Dave’s Breathing Critique:
  41:32–44:06

• NFL MVP Trophy Naming:
  45:08–end

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Tone & Style

The episode is true to The Dan Le Batard Show’s tongue-in-cheek, irreverent, and hyperactive style. Discussions are peppered with personal jabs, nostalgia, complaints about modernity, and a sense that sports are about storytelling as much as stats. Even when examining weighty football questions, the tone remains playful and self-aware, with frequent asides and group laughter.

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Summary for New Listeners:
This episode offers a classic Le Batard blend of sharp sports insight, cultural references, group therapy, and improv comedy. Expect spirited football debate, skewering of old and new traditions, wild hypotheticals (like NFL teams calling out playoff opponents), and plenty of inside jokes — all delivered at a breakneck pace with an all-star cast of regulars and the reliably passionate Dave Dameshek.

Transcript

[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Wow.

[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Fair enough.

[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

Game day is everything.

[Tony]

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[Dave Damashek]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Chris Cody]

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Dan Le Batard]

In fact, the the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Juju]

I've done it.

[Dan Le Batard]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[Chris Cody]

This episode of the Dan Lebizard show is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings, the Crown is yours.

[Dan Le Batard]

We have competing stats of the day. We've got Dave Dashek coming on in a second. But I didn't want to get away from what it is that Trista said because she is espousing the absolute viewpoint that will allow everyone to laugh at Miami after Miami has lost when she says, this is the game. Mario Cristobal always loses without exception. He will lose others as well. But he has never actually won this football game and therefore I will not believe it until after I've seen it happen. Because you're better than Louisville. Louisville, you're better.

[Dave Damashek]

Thank you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know how to say it. You're better than smu and you lost to them. And you lost because of you. Because you're stubborn, running it up the middle. Because you're turning the ball over. Because Carson Beck is throwing four turnovers. You're getting out, coached by Brahm, clearly and obviously where he just throws the ball fast every time. And they get four interceptions and they drag you at home. And then you get. And then they dragged you at home. They dragged you at home. Louisville, you were lucky to be in that game late because they fumbled. They fumbled a perfect game against Mario Cristobal. You're saying he's always going to lose this game this time, too.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dave Damashek]

I mean, the only reason that you guys are saying this is very clearly because of Miami and Florida bias. Nobody in the world thinks that Miami can win at all. Like, nobody. No national, no real national media is like, you know, who has a real shot against Ohio State if you end up winning this Texas A and M game. Miami really has a shot. Like no one. No one believes that.

[Tony]

Have you not listened to the greatest coach of all time and Nick Saban, who says this team is probably the best in the country? Does he not know both Ball, Trista, listen, there's.

[Dave Damashek]

I think he does that. May he knows ball, but you act like just whatever is being said on TV is a real take and not just a posturing take. Nobody believes Miami is like the team prime to win it. It's the hardest path.

[Dan Le Batard]

So why gotta win three games? They've gotta win three games against possibly Georgia, Ohio State, and this is the easiest of the three.

[Chris Cody]

Three to get to the national championship.

[Tony]

And then win the national champions.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

And she's saying nobody believes that. But I would argue that nobody believes Mississippi could do it. That Miami is one of the five teams that most people would say, yes, I believe they're balanced enough to do it. They have all of the things you want. A veteran quarterback, a healthy defense, a pass rush and an offensive line that's bigger than Texas A and M's and.

[Tony]

A star receiver in Malachi. Tony, like you have all of those pieces and you start looking around saying, okay, maybe the only thing that isn't up to par with all the other teams is coaching. Yeah, agree. And I agree that. But I will guarantee this right now.

[Chris Cody]

I will guarantee.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wait a minute, wait a minute. This is. It happens to know beyond a guarantee today from Tony.

[Tony]

I got a guarantee with a capital T at the end. Okay. For my name, Tony Nippy.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Tony]

I guarantee you that if the Canes are up. I guarantee you that if the Canes are up at the end of the game and there's an opportunity to knee the ball to ice the game away.

[Chris Cody]

Mario will need the ball to ice the game away.

[Tony]

I guarantee that ball. Yeah, here, go show it to him. Right here.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, I really thought.

[Tony]

Guarantee.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, we got to do more guarantees with Tony ends with a capital T. Dave Damascek is with us and he thinks the CFB tournament is a waste of time.

[Zaz]

A great take.

[Dan Le Batard]

No? I'm infuriated by this. Check out this week's episode of Football America. Wherever you get your podcasts. I'm urging you to do that because Chris Long, I'm going to believe, without having heard what he and Damashek did, I'm going to guess that that is going to be both wildly entertaining and informative, because I've heard Chr Long's analysis on TUA since it began, and I think he's been like Sort of dead on in a way that's more accurate than just about anybody I've heard about correctly assessing what this person is. And so I would guess that what Dan Shek brought out in the segment was real illumination. If you want to get good to a talk. But what do I have wrong here? Danishek on what I imagine football America is doing today. Because I haven't heard anybody better on the subject of TUA than Chris Long.

[Chris Cody]

So far, so good, Dan. Happy holidays, Merry Christmas to all. I don't know why I didn't get an invite to the good party. I got lukewarm garlic balls. Thanks. Thanks again everybody for that. While you guys bend the elbows and drink. Except for Roy, who I feel bad for can't have a little bit of booze. What would the earth's population be if it was left to the fellas to lay off the booze for 10 months? You're right about. About Chris Long. We talk about tua. That's the tip of the iceberg though. We go on and on about all matter of things to the point. I don't want to sound like too big a scrooge, except I can't really avoid that reality where this college football playoff is concerned. By the way, I see you there. Shout out to Broadway Tone there. Got to run off the field wagging your finger after you make your.

[Tony]

I have them in code too. Damoshek.

[Chris Cody]

Do you? Nice. Nice. Hello to Amin. Once again, Amin is wrong and I'll tell you why. Zaz is right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go on.

[Chris Cody]

About. About tua. What do you want to talk about? You want to talk about this or should we talk about this? My apathy towards the college football players.

[Zaz]

Talk about tua. I want to. I want to hear how you think I'm wrong. That Zaz could be right on.

[Tony]

Also, I know what my apathy means, but I don't think Roy does. So can you explain what my apathy means to Roy?

[Chris Cody]

I don't know either. I heard someone smart say it and I thought I'd try to pass it off myself.

[Dave Damashek]

Is that one word or two words?

[Chris Cody]

I don't know. It's. It's my app. It's two words. It's possessive. Yeah, it'd be a good website. Zas is right about to. Well, first of all, where the football of it is concerned. Yeah. I mean clearly, as they say, as Warren Sapp has said for. For 20 years now at least, you know, the. The defensive coordinators of pro football are going to adjust more quickly than any other organism on the planet Earth. And so they see what a quarterback is, what his preferences are. They take that away. The quarterback adjusts to that, then the coordinators adjust again. And so it goes back and forth for the entirety of that guy's career. Two got figured out about three or four years ago. And that's it. He had no. He had nowhere else to go. He is like a starting pitcher making his first go around the league and he, he shuts down everybody. Then the batters look at some tape, they figure out what he's trying to do, and then they start hitting him or they don't. And that's what happened with Tua. What is bad is though, what Zas is 100% right about. And Amin is like one of these cools who's, who's, you know, he. He's one of the actors who's behind the scenes and he knows what goes on behind the curtain. And Zaz and I are mere audience members, mere paying customers. We don't want to see that crap out on the field. You ask us, the paying public, to buy into. We got to win this game, this battle. Our warriors wearing our team's colors. At the end of the game, if you were to play grab ass with those guys, go do it in the battle.

[Dave Damashek]

That was Dan last night.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, listen, right? You want to do it with his wife? The stadium where we can't see it, we have. Well, I don't, I don't want to look at that. What you need is a little WWE in your lives. You know, Hacksaw Jim Duggan, the American hero and the Iron Chic had a. Had a bitter rivalry. Dan, you know about that hacksaw.

[Dan Le Batard]

I just wanted to do 30 straight minutes of asking Video to go get me Hacksaw Jim Duggan and Iron Chic Video. And then I remembered all the things the Iron Sheik did. And I immediately regretted my. But I wanted to just do a 30 minute wrestling podcast. He's an American hero right there.

[Chris Cody]

No, Duggan was a.

[Tony]

That's what I'm saying. He's an American. Why is he an American hero?

[Chris Cody]

Because he. Because he took a two by four friend and he. And he stapled a old glory to it. Ain't that enough? And he, before and after his fight, I like to stick it to the Sheik. I love it to do with himself. He was a hateful soul. Now, they didn't like each other and they would show that in the squared circle. Now, okay. They were later found in a car burning some tree and drinking some Beers together. At least they had the dignity to do that out of the sight of the viewing public. Okay, Johnny Law picked them up and that's that. But two out there laughing it up with Jalen Ramsey. Do you have any sense of the moment, man? Like. Well, they're human beings. They're three dimensional people. Not in that context. I mean, they're not. They're not. I don't care who you. I don't care what your backstory is. That's for Tuesdays with the feel good pieces that roll when there's nothing to do on SportsCenter. That's when you roll in. You tap into the origin story of how he was born without a leg and all of that kind of stuff. You don't do that right out. You don't do that right after the game like Jalen Ramsey and two are old friends. You don't get it. No way. You don't get football. Is that. We don't want that grab. We want. We want you to at least meet us. You ask us to loot, to dilute ourselves and dislike these other people because they wear the wrong logo on their hats. You got to meet us halfway, football players and not be doing that crap out on the field two seconds after your season ends.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's right.

[Chris Cody]

He's right.

[Zaz]

He's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's right about you being right.

[Chris Cody]

He's right about me being right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Right.

[Chris Cody]

Of course I'm right. Zaz is right. You and I, Dave, you and I are hacksaw. A means iron cheek. I don't like the implications. We're eating lukewarm. We're eating lukewarm garlic balls and burning tree in a car. Man's ass. That's what you would.

[Dave Damashek]

Accidental R. Racism.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony saw the Iron Sheik.

[Tony]

It's like never seen him before.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony discovered. Wait a minute. We're allowed to be this racist in wrestling? Oh, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

What was.

[Tony]

What's his nationality?

[Dan Le Batard]

No, the Iron Sheik.

[Tony]

American.

[Dan Le Batard]

Look, he wasn't as bad as Kamala, who was from Mississippi and did nothing but slap, slap his belly. Like the Kamala spoke full Creole and they pretended like he just didn't speak English and slapped his belly in order to just be racist.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, Dan, don't even get started on Coco. Beware wearing a chain around his neck. Sheesh. Yeah, it got pretty dark there for a while. It was pretty bad. But, yeah, listen, I'm glad Zaz and I. He's in the penalty box because he's a man of justice. That's how it goes. You know, I don't. I don't understand this. This world.

[Dan Le Batard]

No. If guys get him a microphone so in there, he and Dimashek could geek out on wrestling. Because I've been wanting Zaz to do a wrestling podcast, but you have to explain damage act to Tony, who doesn't know anything, just how ridiculous that iron sheet thing was. And incidentally, he just was a prolific, allegedly crack addict as well as. Yeah, well, that's nice.

[Chris Cody]

That's good for him. I also like that that a lot of the wrestlers in yesteryear weren't muscle bound steroid guys. They were just. They were just like kind of big guys. They were just kind of like a little bit bigger than the average human being, and that was enough to become a wrestler. Remember the guy Piper's best pal always had, he always had a broken arm for like, for like eight years. Had a broken arm, but the cast didn't make it over the hand. It was just. It was just over his forearm. He always had that and he used it as a weapon. Those, those were the good times of wwe. But now I want to talk about college football because I. I know you're excited about the U, and I feel bad. I feel like I'm announcing to the world that I don't believe in Santa right now, but I'm not excited about the College Football Playoff. And I think some of it has to do with the fact that I'm an old man and I still pine for. I used to. I used to dig my heels in in the late 20th century on the virtues of the bowl system. And the primary one was that New Year's Day was. Was maybe the best day on the sports calendar. The five bowl games pristine. The. And at the end of it, at the end of the Sugar bowl, in the Orange bowl, put your head on the pillow to. Before you have to go back to school the next day, you knew who the national champion was. And if you did that right now, I submit that that would be a cleaner way to evaluate who number one is in the year of the Lord 2025, or maybe on the first day of 2026. Dig all this jive. I know Kirk Herbs. I know it's delightful for everybody to be admonished repeatedly by Kirk, Herb street and Joel Klatt and everybody else about how you don't really get how it works. But plain and simple, Indiana v. Georgia in the Rose bowl or anywhere else, all hash is settled. Is there any argument after that? Do we need all this jive? Do we need all the Huey and applesauce of arguing about Al again with Huey and Applesauce. That's with both of them. That's right, Dan.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's exactly what you're saying with Huey and Applesauce. Your obsession with Huey and applesauce is not. Let it go, man.

[Zaz]

Who in the bluff?

[Dan Le Batard]

It's a crunch, Luke.

[Chris Cody]

Lukewarm garlic balls. That's what I'm going with.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, that's why you were invited to the party. Everyone knows that. They didn't want garlic breath. They're just eating all the garlic rolls. Eating the metal arc budget and garlic rolls. Merry Christmas.

[Chris Cody]

But am I right though, Dan, you're an old man. You get it. The Fiesta bowl used to kick it off on day you'd roll out of bed hungover and that was the best. And it was always two high scoring teams. I don't know how they always arrived at two shoot it out teams, but it was always delightful. And then on the heels of that, the cotton ball with the. With the southwestern conf. His best. Usually it was Texas against some independent team and now we were off and rolling. And then the granddaddy of them all was a sight to behold with Keith Jackson. And then you had the orange and sugar and if we had that, here's what it would look like.

[Dan Le Batard]

Talking.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, I'll stop talking. Go ahead. Go ahead, please.

[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Tony]

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[Juju]

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[Tony]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Is the worst part of the life?

[Chris Cody]

Stugats. The worst part of the life of what?

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats. You are correct in saying that it used to be two bowl games for everything. That was easier. New Year's Eve was lovely, but you're arguing right now against more football games than matter. Like you're going to have. You have a losing argument because there's just more football on more days and the bowl systems have been eaten up. And now you get to guess whether five teams might be able to win the championship because you've made it more random. Like, you're.

[Chris Cody]

I agree with that.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're. Well, you're longing like. Like, I don't know if this is the perfect metric to decide the best team, but you're just giving the customer more football that matters. Instead of two bowl games, you got a bunch of them.

[Chris Cody]

That's the way to placate the masses is right. It's more football. And you're a curmudgeon if you're complaining about it. But if you believe in merit, in evaluating who the best team is, we had to get off this old system.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jake Paul is fighting for a championship of some sort tonight.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, listen, but as you, as we've now experienced with Mike Ryan and countless others, there's always going to be an argument. If it's 12 teams, well, the 13th team got screwed. If it's, if it's a four team tournament, the fifth team got screwed. It'll expand the 16 and then the 17 will get screwed. There's not. Listen that the, the best. The virtue of the old system was whether it was the vote on it at the end of New Year's Eve or a two team tournament. There was no there, there was none of this, this arguing about two loss team versus a three loss team deserving a shot at number one. The old system was unique. I didn't say distinctive, Dan, I said unique one.

[Dan Le Batard]

The part that I'm laughing about is you are informing these people while longing for the previous time. That is factual. He is not making that up. I want you guys to imagine whenever it is that the last games played that we don't still know who the championship is going to. Because we have to wait until the morning, until all of the voters, until someone has woken up some writer in Louisiana at 1 o' clock at night and said who do you think should be the champion? That is how damaged Nebraska damage Sheik wants the voters. We used to have to wait till like Monday afternoon after Saturday games to know if the champions.

[Chris Cody]

Well, you're splitting a championship. Okay, one out of one. Okay. Once a decade you did have that. And by the way, I mean look at what everybody's doing here, sitting around. I'm across Football America from you guys and we're talking about football, debating who would beat this team and who would beat that. That's fun. I consider that an enjoyable use of time to, to debate that kind of stuff. That's what it led to. And is this any more satisfying arguing about Notre Dame or Alabama or Miami and who deserves into the tournament? It' exact same thing. You have arrived. Exactly what, what everybody had to get away from in the late stages of the 20th century and early portions of the 21st was exactly what we're doing anyway, which is arguing. But, but now we have let people less than the very best teams into the conversation. Now we're talking about Notre Dame who rendered themselves irrelevant by losing a second game in September. That should have been the end of them. And that used to be the way. And like I say, as somebody who forget the ratings and fan engagement and all of that, yeah, more sports is better. Yes, I enjoy watching sports as it, as it happens. But also if you believe in merit. The greatest system that I'm aware of in American sports history was the old World Series. 11 teams. 1 league's champ plays the other league's champ. Best of nine, Dave. Series. That was the best.

[Dan Le Batard]

Best of nine.

[Tony]

Anyway, Dave, I agree with you. Like, back in the day, it was like, all right, what if this team played this team that. Wouldn't that be sick? Now it's like, oh, no, this team is gonna play this team. And now we actually get to see the game. So instead of talking about seeing the game, now we actually get to see the game. So you want to talk about the game? I want to play and watch the game.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I know. Except that Kirk, Herb street, and everybody else has to cry about James Madison and Tulane being in there.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dear God.

[Chris Cody]

Thank God.

[Tony]

Where did that come from?

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank God it's back.

[Zaz]

Oh, my.

[Dan Le Batard]

Can shut that thing up.

[Tony]

All right.

[Chris Cody]

If you're new here, when that music plays, we go to our magic. Creative content.

[Dan Le Batard]

Explain the show. Don't explain the show.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, wow. Minor penalty. Two minutes for explaining the show.

[Dan Le Batard]

God, shut him up. Is that what you did?

[Chris Cody]

That's what I sounded like, yes. Sheik was Iranian, by the way.

[Tony]

Was naturally Iranian.

[Chris Cody]

Well, he died. Tony Persian.

[Tony]

Love saying, but he was right.

[Chris Cody]

Chris Long and I talked about. Here's a great. You want to forget. Let's forget the college.

[Tony]

The music is playing. Sorry, Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's not respecting the magic.

[Tony]

Does he not get how this works? Shut up, Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

Mute him. Let him talk to himself. Just mute his mic. Just mute his microphone. You got to respect the magic. Creator content.

[Chris Cody]

All right, what were you most wrong about in 2025?

[Dave Damashek]

Wow.

[Zaz]

Look at everyone. Kind of, like, stroke their chins and kind of look up to the heavens. What was I wrong about? I'll tell you what I was most wrong about. Yeah. Absolutely nothing.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, same here.

[Tony]

That's a good one.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, that's great, guys. That's exactly how the game is played. I now long for Damek talking.

[Chris Cody]

I can't.

[Tony]

I can't lie. I thought the Celtics was going to be the hell out of the Knicks.

[Dan Le Batard]

I was wrong both times on the Chiefs when I said they were done and they weren't. And then I said you guys were right and you weren't.

[Tony]

You were right both times.

[Dan Le Batard]

Both times I was wrong. I was doubly wrong on the Chiefs. Now they're not in the playoffs. Do you guys have that sound, please? Because you buried me in it. You. You buried me in the sound that I had on the Chiefs.

[Zaz]

Where?

[Dan Le Batard]

How do I manage to get it right and get it wrong twice? And it's just because you guys bullied me, y'.

[Zaz]

All.

[Tony]

Rashid Wright, Fortitude. Two games of Rashid. It.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's Amin's advice to Greg Cody. Just hang strong on being right and you'll be right.

[Zaz]

Mike McDaniel's looking for conviction. He didn't find it in you.

[Dan Le Batard]

I am sure the Chris Paul stuff on TUA is really good. Can you explain to us in a condensed form, please, the best of what you've got on Football America with Chris Long? Because the TUA analysis of Chris Long has been better than I've heard anywhere.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, he's very proud of himself. He was right on a number of subjects in the news in America. Well, listen to the show. I We really got into the behavior after the game. I mean, we agree. I think it's settled hash. He's an outmoded quarterback in 2025. They figured him out and that's all there is to say about it. I do wonder if there's a team out there like what Denver was able to do, pawning off Russell Wilson by eating some of the contract. If there's a team out there that would look at two, I really highly doubt that, that that team exists come 2026. What Chris Long and I did talk about, though, though here's, here's a great thing I said they want to jazz up the NFL playoffs a little bit. How about. And what I was right about, what I was wrong about this year was I thought the Ravens were going to be the number one seed. As it turns out, they're just not that good a team. But what if at the end of the wild card round weekend, we punctuated it? The cherry on top is the number one seeded team that didn't play in wild card weekend. The head coach and their star player go to a podium and they announce who they've chosen to play in the divisional round. How exciting would that be? I love that. I love that.

[Tony]

So wait, explain that. So the team that didn't play the number one seed gets to choose the lower seed that they play in the next round.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, they. They get to go. It's not like it's assigned to them because, you know, you deserve certain privileges along with not having to play in wild card weekend. On top of that, now you jazz it up and in fact back give some heat to that game that otherwise wouldn't exist. So let's say you're the Denver Broncos. You now have to go to the podium Sean Payton and say who you are choosing to play in the divisional round and that team's going to be pissed off. That's a major call them that you chose them like you could have taken any team to play. You want us. Oh, now you're gonna get it. Now it has a, now it has an extra gravity to it. See, now I've just jazzed up, up football a little bit more.

[Zaz]

Dave, I'm 100% with you. I've lobbied for this in the NBA for years, especially now with the, with the play in tournament. Because what happens is it used to be you're the one seed, you play the eighth seed or the seven seed, and that's well and good. I played one of the worst teams, right? But now because of the play in tournament, the three seed knows who they're going to play. So the day, the last day of the regular season, we know who we're going to play. The four and the five know who they're going to play. The one and the two. They're sitting there. They got to wait a whole week to figure out, am I playing him? Am I playing them like, what's going on? And so I said, you should be able to call out your opponents. So that way the one seed gets to pick whatever the lowest seed, five through eight like it. Who's my opponent? And then like you said, you got the whole. On the one hand, yeah, maybe this is a better matchup. Maybe I'd rather play the seven than the eight. But on the other hand, now that team is like, oh, you think I'm easy? You want to pick on me?

[Dan Le Batard]

Let's do this.

[Juju]

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[Tony]

I think I would have been on his side. I would have looked at you like.

[Dan Le Batard]

What did you say?

[Chris Cody]

I'm telling you, me and my friend, the rest of the way home, all we kept saying was I ain't cheating stugats.

[Dan Le Batard]

It's like, why did you got your ass? I think he got your ass.

[Chris Cody]

I got his way. Chris. Chris won this one for sure. Not that Jeremy. It was great.

[Dan Le Batard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. I want to get back to professional wrestling with Zaz and Damoshek. But before I do that, it was a fairly enormous football game that was played last night. It was wildly entertaining. I don't think there's a lot of difference between those two teams. I think a lot of people come away saying the Rams are still better. I still think the Rams are better. I don't trust Sam Darnold. He's always going to throw that dumbass interception. But. But the Rams could be undefeated this year because they've lost four one score games. And some of them are weird losses like they were dominating Philadelphia. In Philadelphia they're for. They are four one score games from being undefeated. And I trust Stafford to not do what Darnold did last night ever. Even though he did it against Carolina. But damn it, Shaq, what do you make of the fact that they've got these weird losses? Like that's a collapse last night the Seahawks had played 155 games trailing by 16 or more and never won one of them until last night.

[Chris Cody]

Well, Dan, you go at me for repeating myself. One thing I've talked a lot with about the gang that, that you're surrounded by right now is and to bring it all home, the Fortua and Mike McDaniel and the dolphins. The loss on Monday Night Football to the Titans blowing that two score lead Monday Night Football. I mean it didn't just damn them for the rest of that season. I you can make a decent case that that caused the entire era that was promising to spiral down and now the Rams are in that same spot which is, yeah, they're still probably better than the Seahawks. It was semi fluky to win the turnover battle to the degree they did time of possession and everything else and still lose the game. Nevertheless, they're not going to be the number one seed now. And if you have to play an extra game in a league that has become about coin flips when the teams are fairly close to each other, that every Game is going to be a 5149 type of result, then the Rams may have just doomed themselves.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh, damn it, Shaq. I. I think that I can make the case that that is the most devastating loss in Rams history. If the window closes on them and they can't win as a five seed like that, that I'm going to have harder time. Maybe. I. Yeah, I don't lost a Super.

[Chris Cody]

Bowl on a field goal with no time left. Probably worse.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, second. Second. Fair enough.

[Chris Cody]

Yes.

[Dan Le Batard]

Having the greatest show. My fault. My fault. I overreacted. The greatest show on lost to the Patriots starting the Brady era. That was obviously worse. I take it back.

[Chris Cody]

Do we. Do we even count? A super weird thing in 50 years is when people are going to be looking back through and be like, wait, the rams were in St. Louis. Wait, they went. They won a Super bowl and lost the second one while they were there. That's a. That's a weird little, little asterisk in sports history. Yeah, Dan, I think that's exactly right. I mean, if we said, hey, we're going to flip this coin and if it comes up on the wrong side, I'm going to take one of your digits with this knife here. You would want to flip it only twice, not three times. Right. And so who gets the one seed? And that's what these games all are, is now Goodell's beloved mediocrity called parody is at our doorstep now. And now, you know, it's really hard to divine. I agree with you.

[Dan Le Batard]

We all were weirded out by the way you cut off digits. All of us didn't understand what was happening there.

[Chris Cody]

There, Right? Like that old Twilight Zone episode, right? Wasn't it a Twilight Zone episode?

[Tony]

Yeah, that's right. I still believe in the Rams a lot, though, because the way they lost that game without that Rashid Shahid punt return. We're not having this conversation without a couple of just lucky bounces for the Seahawks. But while watching that game, I did have one burning question for Dave Damshek. What did you think of them Seahawks uniforms, bro?

[Chris Cody]

Of yeah, Juju. A little drab. Ultimately. I thought the helmets were fashion forward, iridescent and all of that. They did look a little Oregonian to me. But overall, combined with the drab gray, color me unimpressed.

[Tony]

C. Chris, hit the stat of Dave music for me.

[Chris Cody]

Start of the day, start of the day it is start of the day, start of the day, start of the day it is the start of the day Start of the day, Start of the day it Is the start of the day. Start of the day.

[Dan Le Batard]

Start of the day.

[Chris Cody]

It is your start of the day. Stat of the Day is presented by Miller Lite.

[Zaz]

Tristan's dog is licking her laptop.

[Tony]

According to Mike Sando Snitch, the Rams are the first team in NFL history to lose with. With 500 plus total yards on offense, zero turnovers and over three opponent turnovers. They're the first team in NFL history to lose having those combined spots.

[Dan Le Batard]

But damn, they got four weird ones when they should be undefeated. Like it's. It's four of them, right?

[Chris Cody]

80 Mitchell, AD Mitchell doesn't drop that ball. That would have been a loss that they. In a game they won. But I take your larger point there. Yeah, it just doesn't make a difference though. They now have to win. Probably have to win three road games to get to the Super Bowl. That makes their path that much less likely to end in Santa Clara. You can't pick them if they have to win three road games.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, the only way I do it is that Stafford won on the road at Brady and Brady did this over Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Brees and everyone else. Do I believe that Stafford's the best? Do I believe Puka is totally unstoppable? Do I believe they're super balanced and their pass rush will always make Darnold do that two or three times a game? Yes, I do. I believe they put themselves in a bad spot, but Stafford can do it more than.

[Zaz]

Than.

[Dan Le Batard]

More than Darnold can. Like if that, like that's a disaster loss for the Rams. They've done it the hardest. The hardest. McVeigh and Stafford now have to do it the hardest possible way with Devonte Adams. A little bit hurt, but I saw Seattle get shredded by Baker Mayfield and I was stunned by what Puka did to that defense yesterday.

[Chris Cody]

Like, you know, Dan, Dan, a big difference between even the heavyweight teams in pro football today versus 15 or 20 years ago. You don't have to get in the wayback machine machine to make this point. The, the, the best teams get hammered at. I mean every single one of them. The teams that go on to win to the super bowl at some point, if you go back through their regular seasons, they get whipped by double digits somewhere along the way. That didn't used to happen. And I don't mean in the 70s, I mean like the 90ers of the 90s or whatever. The Cowboys, they just didn't take 20 point losses. Oh yeah, they just had a bad day at the office and the Cardinals got them. That just Never used to happen happen. Now it does. And you have to kind of. You. You kind of have to accept, exempt those. Sort of like a bad day on the golf course when you're submitting your handicap, your worst loss and your best loss or better best win and all that kind of get thrown out. And what's in the middle is what counts, I think. But I think exactly right. Three. I mean, three. Three road games makes it highly unlikely that you're gonna get to the Super Bowl. Oh, my God, that. Dave, you got to pull the inside straight. You are getting me so excited for playoff football. NFL action. Guys. Take the guesswork out of buying NFL tickets with GameTime. Download the GameTime app, create an account, use code DAN for $20 off. Your first purchase terms. Apply again, create an account and redeem code dan for $20 off. Download the GameTime app today.

[Dan Le Batard]

Demek, do you have any idea and this is why you didn't get invited to the company party? Okay, it's not just the garlic breath. I'm going to need to be honest with you.

[Chris Cody]

Let's talk straight.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. I'm sorry I have to do this to you in front of people.

[Zaz]

Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Know why it is that Roy and Juju? Well, Roy was just laughing off mic at something that Juju said.

[Chris Cody]

Do I know? No, of course I don't. I'm in the dark. I. I didn't get invited to the party. I'm over here.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, but this is why you're in the dark, friend.

[Chris Cody]

Okay. Okay.

[Dan Le Batard]

Juju.

[Tony]

Nice timing. Respected that. Oh, snitches get stitches. Go do your job, buddy. Z's looking around. Hey, magic crate, baby.

[Chris Cody]

Let's go.

[Dan Le Batard]

He wants to talk wrestling.

[Chris Cody]

If you're new.

[Dan Le Batard]

He'S been waiting for 20 minutes to talk about iron shaped.

[Tony]

Cheek, about Hacksaw, Jim Duggan, the American Heroes.

[Chris Cody]

Who is your favorite social media follow?

[Tony]

I like to follow Trista. Just to be entertaining on social media. Every sport, too.

[Dave Damashek]

That's a good teammate right there.

[Dan Le Batard]

That seems biased. It is a good teammate, but she's the best follow of anyone to follow. And you're not exactly a follower in the world. Okay.

[Tony]

Better than Isho, Speed, Alley, oop.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wherever it is you get your podcast.

[Zaz]

I think my favorite follow is this dude named Paul Olima. All he does is mock all these Internet videos. So whenever someone's like, I couldn't believe I was. You know, my life was destroyed, but I built myself back up and they show themselves cross. He always does a reenactment where he puts his phone up he's like, okay, hold on. Because it's so weird that people on the Internet film themselves crying.

[Dan Le Batard]

Tony, your favorite.

[Tony]

That's a tough one. Dano, get back to me.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, thank you. That's good improv. Dave Damascek is doing football America, and you get it every Monday and Friday. I've got the worst answer here. I think because I've just checked. Checked out on social media. I'd actually like you guys to recommend people that. Because Amin took that question seriously.

[Chris Cody]

Jeremy's fun.

[Zaz]

Take every question seriously.

[Tony]

Jeremy who?

[Chris Cody]

Cachet.

[Dan Le Batard]

Jeremy is the best follow for you.

[Chris Cody]

I'm trying to curate for you. I think you'd enjoy that.

[Dan Le Batard]

You think, you think you're family. You think I'd enjoy more? More eager Jeremy in my life. Life again, Chris. More forever eager Jeremy in my life.

[Chris Cody]

Thank you. Family. Best of the year in review club coming up in a little bit.

[Tony]

Oh, wow, that's an exciting one. You know what? I have my Jeremy will be there. My favorite follow. Flanagan's. Anytime I see Flanagan on my timeline, all of a sudden I see some garlic rolls, I see some wings, I see a burger. I see the only place for rib.

[Dan Le Batard]

Flanagan.

[Zaz]

Kendall Flanagan's in particular.

[Tony]

I mean, come on.

[Chris Cody]

The best.

[Zaz]

Give me a zip line.

[Tony]

Talk to him.

[Zaz]

Top of the ulcer.

[Dan Le Batard]

Roy was laughing because juju asked you to breathe. To breathe. To breathe to. When broadcasting to the people who listen to this show, he was asking you very gently, meditatively, helpfully, to breathe.

[Dave Damashek]

It was bad. I don't know you, but it was so bad.

[Chris Cody]

What was bad?

[Dave Damashek]

Just the breath thing. It just. You just were like, non stop. And it was like all the same tonality. And my. I just glazed right over.

[Chris Cody]

All right, good stuff. All right, listen. Now, what I talked to Chris Long about was, was Matthew Stafford may well be your MVP right now, but it doesn't resonate. And why versus the Heisman Trophy? A lot of people weighed in on Fernando and whether or not he deserved it in his speech and Diego and all of that. That why does it carry more weight who the better college best college player is versus the NFL mvp? It's because of the trophy and the quality of the trophy and the iconic name and all of that. That's the assignment for everybody in there today. Come up with what NFL luminary should we name the NFL trophy after so that it does resonate more in 20, 26 and beyond. So you get not just the NFL MVP who remembers who won it six or eight years ago. Go. You will remember. I got the Brady, and then you have the. The cool Brady. That'd be cool, right?

[Zaz]

You got to name it after, like, Pat Summerall.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, Summerall. Susie Wild's old man. I had no idea.

[Zaz]

How about that?

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't want to talk. Vanity.

[Dave Damashek]

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