The Big Suey: Top 5 Dicks

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Top 5 Dicks The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: July 18, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Chris Cody, Jeremy, Mike

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1. Introduction and Opening Banter

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in their signature humorous banter. Dan Le Batard opens with a lighthearted anecdote about his dog and the convenience of Chewy.com, seamlessly transitioning into the main content after the initial advertisements.

2. NBA Trade Discussions: Damian Lillard and Miami Heat

Timestamp: [03:44] – [07:02]

The conversation shifts to NBA trade rumors, focusing on Damian Lillard's decision to stay with Portland instead of joining the Miami Heat. Stugotz raises questions about the Heat's genuine interest in Lillard, noting the lack of concrete reports:

Stugotz: "I don't even know how real Miami's interest was in Damian Lillard."

Jeremy delves into the strategic considerations, mentioning the Heat's inclination towards younger players and their reluctance to commit to long-term, high-value contracts:

Jeremy: "Maybe they were really interested and tried to pitch him on it and Portland just made more sense for him to sign that three-year deal."

The hosts also speculate on other potential player movements, such as Chris Paul potentially returning to the Clippers and Russell Westbrook heading back to Oklahoma City, highlighting the fluid nature of NBA trades and player preferences.

3. Top Five Dicks: Identifying Difficult Teammates

Timestamp: [21:00] – [25:09]

The segment titled "Top Five Dicks" aims to spotlight challenging teammates the hosts have encountered in their sports careers. However, Chris Cody expresses reluctance to participate:

Chris Cody: "No, I'm not. I refuse to participate."

Instead, he offers alternative lists, highlighting his favorite teammates like Miles Austin and Joe Thomas, emphasizing camaraderie and positive relationships:

Chris Cody: "Miles is my favorite teammate in my NFL career."

The playful tension around labeling difficult individuals leads to a brief disagreement on the appropriateness of such lists, ultimately reinforcing the camaraderie among the hosts.

4. Breath of Fresh Air: Top Five Feel-Good Moments

Timestamp: [07:55] – [13:08]

Shifting gears, the hosts discuss their "Breath of Fresh Air" list, which encompasses moments of relief and positive feelings. Jeremy shares personal experiences, such as getting a long-overdue haircut:

Jeremy: "Number one, the long overdue haircut."

Other entries include beating traffic, finding lost items, and the satisfaction of stepping into a better-than-expected hotel room. This segment highlights the everyday joys that bring a sense of relief and happiness amidst their busy lives.

5. Personal Anecdotes and Humorous Stories

Timestamp: [27:00] – [35:56]

The episode features several humorous and relatable stories:

• Dan Le Batard recounts witnessing an elderly man urinating awkwardly in a grocery store parking lot:

  Dan LeBatard: "He went behind his car for some reason... he was peeing on his bumper trying to watch his cover."

• Chris Cody shares an amusing incident where he almost wet himself during a crucial game play but fortunately only had a false alarm:

  Chris Cody: "I thought I went on myself... Luckily, it was a false alarm."

These stories inject humor into the episode, showcasing the hosts' ability to find comedy in everyday situations.

6. NFL Discussions: Player Behavior and Team Uniforms

Timestamp: [35:56] – [44:19]

The conversation transitions to NFL topics, focusing on player personalities and team aesthetics:

• Uniforms: The hosts debate the appeal of various team uniforms, praising the Chargers, Bengals, Rams, and Eagles for their stylish and distinctive designs:

  Stugotz: "Bengals helmets is fire."

• Player Loyalty and Performance: They discuss wide receivers like Tyler Lockett and Brandon Cooks, highlighting their consistent performance across multiple teams:

  Chris Cody: "Brandon Cooks was doing that throughout his entire career... that's why it's underrated."

• Mentorship and Player Development: The hosts touch upon mentoring younger players, with Chris Cody mentioning his role in guiding Deontay Johnson:

  Stugotz: "Are you a mentor of his?"

These discussions emphasize the importance of team culture, player loyalty, and the impact of aesthetics on both players and fans.

7. Closing Remarks and Final Banter

As the episode nears its end, the hosts continue their playful interactions, teasing each other and wrapping up the discussions. They acknowledge the ongoing challenges and humorous aspects of their sports careers, leaving listeners with a blend of insightful commentary and lighthearted humor.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Dan LeBatard on Chewy.com:
  "[00:01] Dan LeBatard: ...Chewy has everything you need to keep your pet happy and healthy."

• Stugotz on Cuervo:
  "[01:02] Stugotz: Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots."

• Chris Cody on Heat’s Interest in Lillard:
  "[06:01] Chris Cody: Yeah, yeah."

• Stugotz on 'Breath of Fresh Air':
  "[07:55] Stugotz: ...getting a haircut changed my day."

• Dan LeBatard on Witnessing the Parking Lot Incident:
  "[25:00] Dan LeBatard: ...I just see this guy. I'm like, he can't be doing what I think he's doing."

• Chris Cody on Team Uniforms:
  "[44:03] Chris Cody: I like the Chargers threads."

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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz offers a comprehensive blend of sports analysis, personal anecdotes, and the hosts' unique humor. From in-depth discussions on NBA trades and NFL player dynamics to light-hearted segments on everyday joys and challenging teammates, the hosts provide an engaging listening experience for fans interested in both the analytical and entertaining facets of sports.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

What are you doing here?

[Chris Cody]

Cuervo?

[Jeremy]

Anytime someone says Cuervo, I show up.

[Stugotz]

Well, I do know that to be true. But even during ad reads like Cuervo, I think he could lay out, especially for one of our great partners.

[Chris Cody]

Sweet, delicious Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

Since then, Cuervo has stayed true to its roots. The same family, the same land, the same passion.

[Jeremy]

Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

So enjoy the tequila that started it all. Cuervo.

[Chris Cody]

Cuervo.

[Stugotz]

The tequila that invented tequila.

[Mike]

Proximo Cuervo.com Please drink responsibly.

[Chris Cody]

Cuervo.

[Mike]

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[Jeremy]

Welcome to the Big Suey presented by DraftKings.

[Chris Cody]

Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not gonna apologize for that.

[Jeremy]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Stugotz]

I have been tempted in restaurants just.

[Jeremy]

Walking past tables to grab somebody's fries.

[Stugotz]

If they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Chris Cody]

I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar. This episode is presented by DraftKings.

[Dan LeBatard]

DraftKings.

[Stugotz]

The Crown is yours. So I where I was getting with that was Bradley Beals IG post. I don't know if Video pulled this up, but he did not take out two articles in two different cities to thank them. He just went to ignore and he surmised his entire experience with a singular emoji, the peace sign emoji.

[Chris Cody]

Deuces, deuces.

[Stugotz]

Goodbye to Phoenix. And in the comments there's another emoji, but it's from Kevin Durant and it's a crying face emoji. Suffice to say, not a big fan of his experience over there in Phoenix and if you could blame him, although he had a lot of blame in his own right for that. Jeremy, before we close the loop on Damian Lillard, what is the Heat propaganda perspective on Damian Lillard deciding deciding to go to Portland? I don't know how real Miami's interest was in Damien. That was something that a lot of Heat fans were kind of deducing. This makes sense, especially on a sweetheart deal, but that's pretty much where it was. It just lived in the minds of Heat fans and we never got any concrete reporting on the Heat's level of interest on Damian Lillard.

[Jeremy]

Ironically, it was basically at the same time that Bradley Beal and Damian Lillard became part of the conversation. And then the Heat ultimately traded for Norm Powell and both of those guys were pretty much eliminated from contention unless Dame was willing to take what, a two year minimum? Because the Heat don't really want to go into next season with more big contracts on the books, particularly for an older player. Who knows what the level of interest was. Maybe they were really interested and tried to pitch him on it and Portland just made more sense for him to sign that three year deal.

[Stugotz]

It is a pretty big, it's a lot of money deal.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. And it's specifically because they're a team with so many young players that that a lot of those guys I don't believe are up for extensions for a while and the ones who are might not be guys who they want to make max level players. So it made all of the sense in the world. But we were workshopping it back here like there's a whole bunch of other players in the NBA where reunions could happen like this at the end of their careers. Right now, like, there's rumors of Chris Paul back to the Clippers potentially.

[Stugotz]

There was actually a report that the. The Hornets were interested in bringing back Chris.

[Jeremy]

That would be tremendous, too.

[Stugotz]

North Carolina, he started his career, I believe they were the New Orleans Hornets when he started his career. It's a different franchise, but, you know, kind of the full circle thing. And he said, no, thanks.

[Jeremy]

Right. And the Clippers, really, that's the place you're really going to remember Chris Paul. So it would be cool to see him go back there as a piece of one of the, like, oldest teams that in 2012 would have been one of the greatest teams you would have ever seen. But between him, maybe at the. Because he doesn't feel like a guy who would take the minimum right now, but maybe in a couple of years. Russell Westbrook going back to OKC would be an awesome story to be a guy to contribute on a team that's now been built out. You know, we already heard rumors this offseason of LeBron going home.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I would love that.

[Jeremy]

To Miami.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, come on. Don't say no.

[Jeremy]

Obviously, Cleveland is the place, right? Like, that's the spot where, you know, you always see LeBron go.

[Chris Cody]

If you go to Miami in the middle, you don't come back.

[Stugotz]

No, that's. It's.

[Chris Cody]

You start there, you come back. Or if you never come, you in there.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Chris Cody]

But you don't get, like, when you come and you get your crazy out Miami. And then you can't go back there.

[Stugotz]

Your Miami phase, the family's like, we're not going back.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jeremy]

It'd be really cool. It'd be really cool to see him back in Cleveland, whether it's this year or somewhere else in the future when he becomes a free agent after this season. So there's all sorts of guys. I mean, even for that matter, like, it'd be cool at some point in the last year of his career to see Mike's least favorite player, Kyle Lowry, go back to Toronto. Like, there's all these guys that were sort of lifers with their franchises, and now Damian Lillard has done this. You almost wonder, like, will he be a trendsetter? For some of the older players to decide, hey, you know what? It's worth it to go back. The difference, obviously, being his injury.

[Stugotz]

I mean, Lowry did, in a sense, go back home. Villanova guy.

[Chris Cody]

That's right.

[Stugotz]

And he re upped with Philadelphia. So that's also a nice heartwarming place for him to end his career. This doesn't feel like a Riley and company whiff, though. It's certainly not to the level that it was last. Last go around when we were singing sad Peppas. This is. I don't even know how real Miami's interest in him was. And plus, we don't want to do anything to jeopardize the cap situation as we go and reacquire LeBron James for Terry Rozier.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And Andrew Wiggins.

[Jeremy]

Did you see Bleacher?

[Stugotz]

Maybe Hawk is. We'll see.

[Jeremy]

Bleacher report suggested a trade in just sort of workshopping trades for LeBron. That was Wiggins rosier. And two firsts is what they included for LeBron and Bronny.

[Stugotz]

But a superstar deciding to not chain, not to ring chase anymore. And again, very few examples of ring chasing going so poorly. The. The Milwaukee thing was an abject failure. Even Portland's hall was a failure. Cronin remains on the list. That. I mean, this. That was another thing that bothered me. Why are you rewarding this guy? This guy was a dirt bag to you. Dame. But either way, it was a breath of fresh air. And speaking of fresh air, Jeremy, you love that feeling, don't you?

[Jeremy]

Oh, I do.

[Stugotz]

And kudos to the. The engineering team over here. We got the ac. We finally have some fresh air. Is it over? Is it good over there? Back there. And you have a top five.

[Jeremy]

I do. I have a top five. Breath of fresh air slash sigh of relief. Feelings that can really change your day. And this stems from. I was really overdue for a haircut, and I went and got a haircut yesterday. And the way that that made me feel completely changed my day. So I came up with some. Some others here I have a couple of OLIs. First, Oli beating traffic, getting out of a concert or a game, leaving a parking garage.

[Stugotz]

I love this list.

[Tony]

So breath of. That's a breath of fresh air for you?

[Chris Cody]

Well, it just.

[Jeremy]

It just feels good. I was trying to figure out, like, what the. It's not top five good feelings.

[Tony]

Trying to figure out what the list is. Breath of fresh air or things that.

[Jeremy]

Feel good that first time that there's a little nip in the air in South Florida as you approach, like, February.

[Tony]

That's a good. Literally a breath of fresh air.

[Stugotz]

You don't have, like, an entire ecosystem around your balls anymore.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Summer traffic, driving to work.

[Stugotz]

That's pretty good.

[Chris Cody]

Summer traffic, driving to work.

[Jeremy]

I was able to Leave my house at 7:15 this morning and get here at 8 o'.

[Chris Cody]

Clock.

[Jeremy]

So there's a lack of traffic. Summer traffic.

[Chris Cody]

That's real. Because I'm like, why is it so much easier to get to the studio from where I live? And that makes sense.

[Stugotz]

This summer. This summer season is particularly slow in Miami. Restaurants are super empty. The Herald did a whole piece on it. Restaurants are really struggling down here in Miami. It is insanely hot. But this is always the slow season. But tourism in the United States, even people traveling who are American within the United States, they're pulling back their dollars. The US Tourism industry is absolutely on ice right now.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Not.

[Jeremy]

Not a ton of people here right now. And that is the best possible feeling. Last Oli, that first sip of Miller Light on a hot day at a barbecue.

[Tony]

That's oli.

[Stugotz]

96 calories.

[Chris Cody]

That is.

[Stugotz]

Have you seen the gold can?

[Jeremy]

It's beautiful.

[Stugotz]

50 years.

[Jeremy]

Doesn't look a day over 49.

[Tony]

That's a number one for me.

[Jeremy]

Number five, finding sunglasses or AirPods that you thought you lost. Could be any small item, could be your keys, something that you thought you lost. And ultimately finding it when you're not.

[Chris Cody]

Looking for it's more of relief.

[Stugotz]

I. I had a situation. I. I don't really know where the keys to my house are. I have one of those smart locks that I can change the code every now and then. I'm getting my house dented next week. And by law, the people are like, we need a key to the house. I'm like, don't have one. They're like, well, then we probably can't do this anymore. I'm like, okay, see ya. It became like a battle of wills. But then I ultimately decided, let me look for this thing. I couldn't believe I frigging found it. Could not believe I did.

[Tony]

You go through a bunch of keys? That's not it.

[Stugotz]

I did.

[Tony]

This one isn't into you.

[Stugotz]

I haven't held keys in my hand because I have all these fobs now. I haven't held a key in my hand in like five years. And I was. I certainly forgot the feeling of putting a key in a lock and the gratification that you get for it actually working. I was like, would you look at that? I tried like 10 keys. I'm like, all right. The level of effort here is we're approaching is the juice worth the squeeze territory? And I got like a hard set of keys. Can you imagine?

[Jeremy]

Number four, first step into your hotel room after a long day of travel.

[Chris Cody]

That is as a traveler. I am all in on that one. Especially if it's. I would. Can I switch it up a little bit? Can I give you a. Yeah, please.

[Jeremy]

Punch it up.

[Chris Cody]

A hotel that's nicer than you thought it was.

[Jeremy]

Yes. Oh, that feeling's incredible.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, my goodness. Look around.

[Tony]

Be like, oh, this is nice.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, I got this cookie.

[Tony]

In the room too.

[Chris Cody]

Come on out. That is like, the worst feeling is when the hotel is nowhere near as nice as you thought it was or, like, way worse.

[Stugotz]

Nothing sets me off, though. Like, it's. I have to touch the mattress. That's like the end all and be all. Because I can't do this super stiff mattress. I have, like, a shoulder injury right now because I'm pushing 40, and I slept on my. I'm a side sleeper.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

It was this Disney hotel that I slept on my side, and I'm just jacked up now. All my IG ads are for shoulder braces. Number three, Dan Orlovsky. Like, doing this, from what I've been.

[Jeremy]

Told, taking off your bra at the end of a long day.

[Stugotz]

What an inclusive list. Because I've also heard that that is a thing, But I don't have the personal experience. But I can get. I can get it just based off of what's going on down here in the Miami summer.

[Jeremy]

You know me, I'm always here to. White night for everyone.

[Chris Cody]

That's it.

[Jeremy]

Number two, putting on socks straight out of the dryer. Particularly if you've been caught in the rain. You've got wet shoes, damp socks, long day, and you have an opportunity to walk in and put socks or even, like, sweatpants straight out of the dryer. It's a really, really comfortable feeling.

[Chris Cody]

I'm not a. I'm not a hot clothes kind of guy.

[Jeremy]

I get that. Yeah, I understand. Maybe that's not a good one for here in South Florida. And number one, the long overdue haircut.

[Tony]

Taking a leak. Not there. That's a. That's a big breath of fresh air for you.

[Chris Cody]

We're definitely confusing relief and breath of fresh air.

[Jeremy]

There's like a. It's a hybrid list.

[Chris Cody]

It's why I said I don't have a bra. But that. That probably is a relief.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Category as well. Right.

[Jeremy]

Like, could have all been just a feeling of relief.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Maybe in your day.

[Stugotz]

What was the football version of taking off your bra?

[Chris Cody]

The shoulder pads coming off is a good feeling.

[Tony]

Cleatso, too.

[Stugotz]

Helmet.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, cleats. If you got the feet problem. But helmet I mean, your helmets on and off. Not a big deal. Yeah, the shoulder pads, like, represent my day is done. It's like, yes, it's a good feeling. But also it's like, work is over. That's a clock out moment.

[Stugotz]

There are some guys that go their entire playing career because they didn't have a great equipment staff in high school that just decide. Eli Manning was one of these guys. Peyton Manning was one of these guys. I'm just going to squeeze my head into this and comfort be damned. Putting on a helmet is an uncomfortable experience for me. My entire career when I was playing in high school, I hated. Do we have any more of these? This is terrible. And they're like, no, you get, you get what you get. I'm like, it hurts.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. No, that is the football experience. It's weird. You just get used to it.

[Stugotz]

Really. There isn't a soothing feeling where you put on a helmet and it feels good. This is super comfy.

[Chris Cody]

Only if you've grown up in that era and then you put on the new helmets. You know that. But like, it's uncomfortable. Even the comfortable helmet today, if you put one on today, you'd be like, yo, this feels like a pillow on my head. My kid will be like, this is the most uncomfortable thing I've ever put on. Like, yeah, that's football, buddy. You gotta get used to it.

[Jeremy]

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[Mike]

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[Stugotz]

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[Jeremy]

But in my bed in the hospital.

[Stugotz]

Ending our lives all the same.

[Dan LeBatard]

St.

[Jeremy]

It'S the final night gown.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Stugotz]

Faint man with that halo going across his head because.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, and the old school helmets were like. It's just.

[Tony]

I mean, Riddell helmets with like the hard pattern.

[Chris Cody]

Relief is football version. Other football version. Going to a team with a star player and he's chill. Really, it's like. Or not a relief. A breath of fresh air. It's like, oh, yeah, I didn't expect you to be your star player was show Thomas. That's a good example.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, but it's Joe Thomas, the, the star player. Being an offensive lineman, you better be chill.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, but I mean, you like just. It's everywhere. Like, you meet like Gronk, it's very easy. Like, oh, Gronk. They probably. He's a superstar. Gronk. You get down. These potatoes suck, man. Yeah, he's really just like, Gronk. That's cool.

[Stugotz]

But he's a star player. He was never the biggest star on the team.

[Chris Cody]

No. Well, he was a pretty big star though.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

If you're ranked stars, he's still a top 10 star. Even though the star in his team was the number one star.

[Stugotz]

He was probably during his era, top 10 star in the league, right, Gronk?

[Chris Cody]

Oh, yeah, for sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hawk's bias. He grew up with him.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Let me tell you about when he, when. When he was a youngin. Why he's such a star now.

[Stugotz]

Did he send you a thank you note for the kind words that you said in his.

[Chris Cody]

I'm sure his family watched his documentary and are like, yo, who the hell is this? And why does he have so many soundbites about what we did with our family growing up, I'm sure.

[Tony]

I got a question. When you're getting into the. The lunchroom and everybody's getting lunch, everybody's getting food. Is Tom there or is he like at another spot getting other food? You know, there's like two tiers, right?

[Chris Cody]

No, Tom. Tom is a great leader. And again, I was there for three months, so I'm an expert at this. Okay. Tom is a great leader in the sense of. Tom was like 40 when I was there. The new guys coming in, they're about 21, 22 years old. It's like regular life. A 40 year old has nothing in common with a 22 year old. Right. If you go into a restaurant and there's a bunch of like 22 year olds in different tables, you're not going to sit down and be like, hey, let's talk. We have nothing in common. The things you're talking about in life they haven't even begun to even think about experiencing. But Tom, he would go out of his way in the lunchrooms, in the breakfast rooms to go sit at the tables with the young guys to have and start the conversation. And me being a quasi old guy at that time, I'm like, I see you. I see that leadership style. I see that you're trying to build that rapport because you know you're going to need these young guys, and, you know, you need them not to look at you as some mythical figure that you're never around and that you're better than that. We're all in this together, and that is exactly how the young guys felt around Tom Brady.

[Tony]

Is there somebody that you played with that did have that, like, mythical figure thing and, like, acted on it, like, don't talk to me. Don't look at me in the eyes. Like, I'm going to be over here with the coaches and the GM and the presidents and all these people.

[Dan LeBatard]

Who's a dick?

[Chris Cody]

No.

[Tony]

Name them.

[Chris Cody]

Not on my teams. I mean, there's a lot of people like that, but not in the teams I play with. You know, I was in Cincinnati. A.J. green was a rookie. He was our star. We were basically our first years together in the league. So he was cool. Andy was our quarterback. Andy Dalton, it was his first year in the league. We didn't know any better. We were just, you know, we didn't.

[Tony]

How's Tyler Ifer?

[Chris Cody]

Eiford was the man, bro. He was very cool.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's play a game. Hawk. Top five dicks.

[Tony]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

And this is how hard fam.

[Chris Cody]

That is a crazy top five Second. That's not even that. No, you don't. Hold on. You just can't open comments like that, bro.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hold on a second. Top five dicks. And then you just give us a name, and then we have to decide Attitude or that's good. Dick.

[Chris Cody]

No, I'm not. I refuse to participate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why?

[Stugotz]

Attitude or ratitude?

[Chris Cody]

How about that? Yeah, I can give you my top five probably favorite teammates. It's a complete opposite.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, well, why don't we call my list that? And then we'll just.

[Chris Cody]

It'll be Breath of fresh Air. Here's my breath of fresh air. Real quick. Breath of fresh Air player Miles Austin.

[Stugotz]

That's right. He was in Cleveland.

[Chris Cody]

He was in Cleveland for one year. And you gotta know he was a cowboy receiver, which makes him a megastar. Right. He was dating Kim Kardashian. Light eyes, you know, like. And you Just. I just had this perception of Miles Austin. And when I met him, when I say complete opposite. Miles is my favorite teammate in my NFL career.

[Stugotz]

But Miles also had a trajectory not unlike yours. He wasn't a highly touted draft pick. He had a fight for his spot. He became a superstar. Like a really organic way.

[Chris Cody]

Yes and no. Because it doesn't quite. That doesn't. Yes. He. He fought his ass off to be who he was.

[Stugotz]

Where did he.

[Chris Cody]

But, you know, it's like a fast track if you do it in Dallas. Like if you're a guy that doesn't. Like, if you're a Brink guy and you make it in Dallas, you kind of skip to the front of the line of fame and whatever. Like if you go to the Seahawks and you battle from undrafted to whatever, it's like you still got to do that a bunch of places in Dallas. It's like, yeah, you can be Cole Beasley, Miles Austin. The list goes on and on. You'll be a household name if you do it in Dallas.

[Tony]

What a year he had in 2009.

[Stugotz]

Oh, he was. He was a monster.

[Tony]

81 catches, 1300 yards and 11 touchdowns.

[Stugotz]

But he broke in with like a tryout right there. Was like a coach.

[Chris Cody]

He went to Monmouth, which was like non scholarship FCS football in Jersey. Yeah. Tony could have been a tight end at Monmouth for sure. Absolutely. He could have. Especially at that time, not today, their scholarship now.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was looking up like eligibility for Division 3 to see if we could actually get you on check.

[Tony]

Naia, they seem to have a little bit more lax rules.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, well, Division 3, you don't need like there's basically they left academic standards up to the school, which is like pro for you. But I think there's also like a clock that you may have missed.

[Chris Cody]

But. Naa, I'll look into.

[Tony]

Na. Anything can happen there, I think.

[Stugotz]

All right, so number five was Miles Austin or he was outside looking in.

[Chris Cody]

No, Miles was my number one breath of fresh air player.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[Chris Cody]

But he was also one of my top five teammates as well. So give me another one. There it is. So Miles Austin. I would say so we're doing a lot of hurt feelings.

[Stugotz]

Are we doing descending order?

[Chris Cody]

No, we're not just saying. I'm just. I'm just going to name five that come to the top of my mind. Most of New was a great teammate, just wanted a salt of the earth. Joe Hayden, Joe Thomas, both of the Joes. They were great. Just great guys, great teammates. Travis Benjamin was just an incredible person. These are like, shirt off their back type of people that are like.

[Stugotz]

All right, so now we've established one end of the spectrum. And I think all Billy is trying to say is, like, let's. Who's on the other side of the spectrum that you're comfortable taking out?

[Chris Cody]

Well, I mean, what do we say?

[Stugotz]

I mean, you played with Johnny.

[Chris Cody]

Like, people I don't like or like that are just.

[Stugotz]

You played with Johnny.

[Chris Cody]

A holes.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

A hole's another list.

[Chris Cody]

Those dicks. That's two different lists for you. Yeah. Okay. See, this is what I'm saying. This is why I don't want to partake in your list. Oh, okay. You want to do a top five dicks in the top.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm just. Because now.

[Chris Cody]

Now.

[Dan LeBatard]

But now I'm distracted. I'm looking up Tony's NAIA eligibility.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

What did you get on your act?

[Tony]

28.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, good. You had to have a 19.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Chris Cody]

So you're. Okay.

[Stugotz]

All right, I'll do it. Number one is Lenny Kravitz when he's, like, shredding at the leather pants.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

We all saw.

[Stugotz]

I mean, what a rock star moment.

[Chris Cody]

What is this list?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know. That's. I don't know.

[Stugotz]

Julio Franco over here. And we also saw Conor McGregor. There was a barbell attached to it that was wild.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, this is like. Okay, this is.

[Tony]

I saw a guy where we're going now.

[Jeremy]

Bottom of the list, Brett Favre.

[Dan LeBatard]

I saw a guy yesterday.

[Chris Cody]

I'm just going from the. From the start, I knew where this was headed.

[Dan LeBatard]

Pee in the parking lot of a grocery store. But, like, plain sight, like.

[Chris Cody]

And no cover up, dude.

[Dan LeBatard]

He went behind his car for some reason. And. And I was like, no, but it wasn't because I was in the spot facing his car. And he stands behind his car because it's like, the angled spaces. And I ordered a pizza, so I'm waiting for the pizza. So I'm just sitting in my car in the AC because it's hot out, and I just see this guy. I'm like, he can't be doing what I think he's doing. And he's just peeing, like, in plain sight. But he went behind his car, I guess, to get cover up. Even though then he was. Because he went face in. He's like, in the aisle where cars are driving by. And he was peeing, but, like, the pee was hitting his bumper. Like, he was peeing on his bumper trying to watch his cover. I was so confused as to what was going on. I was like, I Can't believe that this is what's actually happening right in front of me where my car is facing.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Because I see water falling. I was like, is that like.

[Stugotz]

Is that what I think it?

[Dan LeBatard]

Is that what I think?

[Stugotz]

Curiosity. That's why you're looking like there can't. There just can't be.

[Dan LeBatard]

It wasn't long, but there was a shot.

[Chris Cody]

Whether I see. But the stance alone will tell you if a guy.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's the thing.

[Chris Cody]

It was such an irregular, like literally. It's. It's just. It's a.

[Dan LeBatard]

This. No, but it wasn't that.

[Tony]

It was like got a wide base though there.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you look at your putting right now.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's a putting the same stance.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I didn't have it. This guy was almost like leaning on his car sideways like this. And that's why I see like a splash on the floor. I'm like, it can't be what I think is going on right now. And then there was a shake. This is 2:30 in the afternoon.

[Chris Cody]

What else would he be holding the middle of his body for? With liquid, I pee out.

[Dan LeBatard]

I pour out bottles and stuff sometimes if I don't want it in my car, of course. So I didn't. I. And I. And the part that was confusing beyond just he whipped it out in front of everyone in the middle of this parking lot in the day was why is he actually like wetting his bumper with pee?

[Chris Cody]

Splashback.

[Dan LeBatard]

You could go anywhere. But why would you pee on your own car?

[Chris Cody]

Would you be more upset if he did it on the car next to him?

[Dan LeBatard]

There was no other cars around him. It was. It was so out in the open. It was so weird.

[Chris Cody]

I don't really have the visual that.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he was like old. Which I think is why he thought like I could get away. Because like old people just think they.

[Chris Cody]

Could do whatever they want. They don't give it. It's not. They think they can do whatever they want. They don't care. Like who's going to check me where. I really give a damn about what they think.

[Jeremy]

This is at the grocery store.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. Can I.

[Jeremy]

Don't grocery stores have like public bathrooms? Why didn't he just walk back in?

[Dan LeBatard]

Beats me, man.

[Jeremy]

I didn't even think about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he got in the car after. So it was his car. He claimed it by the p. And then he dec. Maybe it was marking terrace.

[Jeremy]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, I guess that's how it works. This is how he gets caught right now.

[Chris Cody]

Why is it in the bathroom here at Meadowlark you have to get so intimate with the toilet to flush it.

[Tony]

Yeah, it's a little too.

[Chris Cody]

It's one of my least favorite things about this place and I love everything about this, but it is like you cannot flush the toilet. It's like touch. It's damn near fingerprint censored. Like, I tried and one of my pet peeves is having to touch a toilet period. And I'll try to like, get tissue to like, and it won't work. And it's like you got to bait, like you got to get really intimate with this thing to flush and it really upsets me. While we're talking about urination.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. You ever pee yourself while you were playing?

[Chris Cody]

Have I peed myself? No, I don't think I peed myself.

[Stugotz]

You ever do something worse?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, almost, man. Versus the almost.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, well, you answered that like, yeah, you did. And then you said almost.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, almost. Because I didn't quite get there. I thought I did. I thought I number two myself in the game. And it was like a. It was like a game winning drive against the Ravens at the Ravens in 2015. Josh McCown as quarterback and I like catch a pass. I go for 30 and I'm like, man, Josh is a Joshua. He's a great dude. Oh, yeah, that's fifth. Yeah, yeah, he's. He might be number one.

[Stugotz]

Did you ever play basketball with him?

[Chris Cody]

No, but he can hoop. He can do everything, man.

[Stugotz]

He's a really good athlete.

[Chris Cody]

That was my fifth and he's probably him and he's probably near the top. Him and Miles are like neck and neck for top guys. But so we're in this gaming and driving. I got it going. I'm saying it in the huddle like, yo, I gotta go take one, man. They're like, bro, we. We need you just to stay in. We're giving. I end up scoring the two point conversion. If you watch the video, I score a corner route like on the opposite sideline. I catch it, I flip it to the ref, and I run up the Raven sideline all the way to the opposite side of the locker room and go in. And I like miss half of the half of our next drive because there was a turnover. But I had to go, man. And I thought I went on myself and I was like, hey, somebody bring me an extra pair of pants because I think, I'm almost positive I just scored that two point conversion.

[Stugotz]

Oh, you weren't wearing the, the. The brown road road pants.

[Chris Cody]

No, they were whites, man. I'm like, this is not going to look good on television.

[Stugotz]

It was all whites that day.

[Chris Cody]

Luckily, it was a false alarm.

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[Stugotz]

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[Chris Cody]

1-800-Contacts Don LeBatard. And then Matt Stafford threw him 25 and two. Oh, there's a brand new kid in.

[Mike]

Town out of.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the D.

[Chris Cody]

Ler show with the stuff.

[Stugotz]

The brown road pants came along. Was there any discussion in the locker room like, this could actually come in handy? This actually helps us if. Because I'm sure it almost happened to you. It happens routinely.

[Chris Cody]

No, it happens routinely all the time. Like conscious decision. It's not like it becomes locked. Oh, no, I peed on myself or I took a. Like, no, guys are like, well, yeah, I'm not gonna come out of the game.

[Stugotz]

It's the highest profile instance. You can protect the names of the innocent here, but was there, like, a memorable high profile moment in NFL history that you caught wind of, like something was going on there gastrointestinally?

[Chris Cody]

No, not that I call offhand, but I don't know. Not that it. Because there's not. Because it's such. Not. Not a big deal. It won't register as like, I can't believe this happened. You know, it's just.

[Stugotz]

Does it happen to quarterbacks?

[Chris Cody]

What, did they take shits or that.

[Stugotz]

They pee or like.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, every. Everybody. Every position, Pete. Not every player, but yes. If you have to pee and you're in a game, they're just gonna pee and get a new pair of pants. Especially lime. And it's mostly lime. And Lyman will pee in the hot tub. They're. Any sickos pee in the hot tub.

[Dan LeBatard]

Any sickos are like, you know what? I'm pee on myself just because I know that I'm gonna rub this pee all over. Like, everyone in the pile. I'm sorry. Not change at all. Yeah, yeah. Like, I'm gonna make this eye contact.

[Chris Cody]

Like, give them a nod down, like, yeah, check this out.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let me tackle you.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. There's no yellow in this uniform. Huh. So what do you think that is Type of thing? Yeah, yeah, I think there's guys like that. I think there's definitely guys like that.

[Stugotz]

Top five. Teammate poops.

[Chris Cody]

Teammate poops.

[Stugotz]

You got a top five?

[Chris Cody]

I don't have a top five, but when I think of the NFL, I do think of poop a lot. Because you go on road games and away locker rooms are like the worst places on planet Earth. They, like, try to set them up. Like, they feel like prisons purposely.

[Stugotz]

You mentioned the one in Buffalo, and it does seem like.

[Chris Cody]

It's horrible, man. I mean, it's horrible. You got to share lockers because they purposely don't put nearly enough for the. The. The team. So we're like sharing with each other in the same space. There's barely any showers. There's like 10 shower heads for 60 people purposely to make it uncomfortable. And, like, a lot of the places will have the. The stalls with no doors, and there's, like, two toilets, so everyone is nervous, and everyone knows what happens when you get nervous. So we get to this. This, and there's just a line out of the bathroom for two stalls that you got to just take deuces back to back with the doors open because there's no doors on them. And they just like. We want to make. We want to make you guys as uncomfortable as possible before you come to the field. So away games are just. I try to get there as late as possible because it's just a bad experience, man.

[Stugotz]

I don't like that. All right, let's keep testing them, though.

[Tony]

Here we go, Hawk. Old faces, new places. Where is Joey Bosa right now? Gotta go quick.

[Stugotz]

Wait, you're going to retread list?

[Tony]

I'm going to retread.

[Stugotz]

No, you can't do that.

[Tony]

He's. He doesn't know.

[Chris Cody]

I don't know it.

[Tony]

He doesn't know the list.

[Chris Cody]

You can't.

[Stugotz]

We can't do that.

[Chris Cody]

You guys know the list.

[Stugotz]

You owe the audience more than y'.

[Chris Cody]

All.

[Stugotz]

Hawk. Like. Yeah.

[Tony]

There's only so many new faces in old places. Or old faces.

[Stugotz]

Wait, stop the music. This is stupid. We can't. We can't run back that same exact list. I can't. I'm not gonna ask him. Old podcasts. That might be.

[Tony]

There was other guys. There was other guys in the list. I didn't get to.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[Tony]

But I was pretty easy.

[Stugotz]

Get to those. No retreads. But.

[Chris Cody]

No retreads, man. All right. No retreads.

[Tony]

Bring back the music. Answer it. Where's Joey Boza?

[Chris Cody]

We gotta go over. All right.

[Tony]

He's in Buffalo.

[Chris Cody]

Of course he is.

[Tony]

All right, where is Laramie? Tunsil?

[Chris Cody]

Houston?

[Tony]

Come on, Hawk. He's a commie now.

[Chris Cody]

Is he with the command?

[Tony]

He's a commie.

[Chris Cody]

All right.

[Tony]

Where is Javante Williams, Former Bronco?

[Chris Cody]

Cincinnati.

[Tony]

Nice. He's a cowboy now.

[Chris Cody]

He's a hot cowboy. I knew that.

[Stugotz]

Actually, he ran for.

[Tony]

Wait, you knew that?

[Chris Cody]

Then why. I literally just talked about him on ESPN the other day.

[Stugotz]

He ran for 7,000 yards against Miami.

[Jeremy]

And my Carter ran for 8,000.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, yeah. He was one of two running backs.

[Chris Cody]

That every player has. Like that team that they play against that. That elongates their NFL career. Like the Ravens. I wouldn't have played for six years if it wasn't for the Baltimore Ravens. You take out my Raven stats, and I'm a one and done guy for sure.

[Stugotz]

You knew how to find the pockets in the zone.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Tony]

Where is J.K. dobbins? Stay on the running back train. Where's J.K. dobbins at?

[Chris Cody]

JK? Oh, man.

[Tony]

Had a good little season with the Chargers. Obviously got hurt trying to get back to. Back to form. Where is J.K. dobbins?

[Chris Cody]

Baltimore.

[Tony]

Nah, that would be a homecoming for him.

[Chris Cody]

Baltimore to the. To the Charger. Where is it?

[Tony]

The AFC West.

[Stugotz]

Wow. Bronco Broncos.

[Chris Cody]

Okay.

[Stugotz]

First time not playing for a Harbaugh. I like that.

[Chris Cody]

Maybe.

[Tony]

Where is Deontay Johnson? Much maligned. Deontay Johnson?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

His career is a little weird, man.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, it has been weird for him. And he's such a good player, too. I think a lot of, like, Deontay's problem is like. Or issues thus far is trying to.

[Stugotz]

Are you a mentor of his?

[Chris Cody]

I am a mentor.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. Because he's a. He's a Toledo Rock Rocket.

[Chris Cody]

He is a Rocket. Yeah. I've known him for a very long time. Very long time. I think he's very, very talented and really talented if. If he can lock in.

[Tony]

I think that's what he's missing, right? Locking in.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

How do you help him lock in?

[Chris Cody]

It's tough because he's bouncing around. That's like a different point in your career.

[Stugotz]

Are you a bad mentor?

[Chris Cody]

You got to go through.

[Stugotz]

Are you a bad mentor?

[Chris Cody]

I'm not a bad mentor.

[Stugotz]

Like, he's not listening. It seems like it's getting worse in the league.

[Chris Cody]

No, no. He's made a lot of money. That's a win, brother.

[Stugotz]

I mean, he had a rough year last year.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, everyone has rough years. You never had a rough year?

[Stugotz]

Yeah, last year.

[Chris Cody]

There you go. We all have rough years.

[Stugotz]

I'm having one right now.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, we're in the middle of rough years, bro.

[Stugotz]

Every time I open up social media, I'm having a rough enough filibuster.

[Tony]

Where's Deontay Johnson?

[Chris Cody]

That's not filibuster. He's in Cleveland. I know that one.

[Tony]

Oh, okay.

[Stugotz]

He is.

[Tony]

Yeah, he is.

[Stugotz]

He's a Brown.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Oh, so he definitely picked your brain on this one.

[Chris Cody]

No, but he is number 16 as well.

[Tony]

You didn't keep that one. You can keep.

[Stugotz]

They didn't retire.

[Chris Cody]

That was a surprise. They didn't retire. Maybe one day.

[Tony]

Last one. We're gonna go back to back here. Since they're both wide receivers, both retreads. Hunter Renfro. Where is he?

[Chris Cody]

Tennessee.

[Stugotz]

Close.

[Tony]

Carolina Panther Panther homecoming.

[Chris Cody]

Panther. That's right.

[Tony]

And. And this one is. Should be easy for you. Where's Tyler Lockett?

[Chris Cody]

This is a Tennessee.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, that's where.

[Chris Cody]

That's where.

[Stugotz]

That's where. Wide receivers.

[Tony]

So old. Old faces, new places, old faces. You did it. Did I?

[Stugotz]

What's. What's it.

[Chris Cody]

All right?

[Stugotz]

What's going on in Tennessee where all the wide receivers that have illustrious career sign there and then, you know, it's over. It's happened a lot.

[Chris Cody]

It does.

[Tony]

So true, though.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Give me other examples.

[Stugotz]

DeAndre Hopkins, Andre Johnson, Randy Moss, Kenny Britt. Kenny Britt.

[Chris Cody]

DeAndre Hopkins left there.

[Tony]

He had a great season or two.

[Stugotz]

DeAndre Hopkins is now with Kansas City. But, like, once he went to Tennessee, you realized, all right, the days are over of DeAndre being good.

[Chris Cody]

I don't believe that.

[Stugotz]

There's something on the water.

[Chris Cody]

I don't think so. I think it's. It's. It's tough. Like, depending on who you play with, everyone gets older. That's just a part of the process.

[Stugotz]

But why, when they get older, they decide Tennessee for me.

[Chris Cody]

Well, because Tennessee. I need receivers. You go where someone needs, man, it's like they're like, yeah, we're willing to. We're willing to take the Flyer and maybe he kicked the tires on it. I think Tyler Lockett still has something in. In the tank.

[Stugotz]

I mean, as a Cam Ward guy, I hope so.

[Chris Cody]

I think. Who went to Tennessee. Tyler went to Tennessee and then Renfro went to Carolina. Went to Carolina.

[Stugotz]

Homecoming.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, yeah. Tyler's a gamer, though. Hall of Famer. No. He needs to do more, right?

[Chris Cody]

Maybe. No, not at all.

[Tony]

Seahawks hall of Famer, certainly.

[Stugotz]

Ring of Honor.

[Chris Cody]

Definitely ring of honor. I think he's one of the most underrated receivers of the last decade.

[Stugotz]

Absolutely. I mean, if you pull up the leading receivers over the last decade, you'd be shocked to see where Tyler Loc ranks.

[Chris Cody]

Definitely in there. Definitely in there.

[Stugotz]

I know he played alongside DK Metcalf. There was a time there where their output was damn near the same, and it was confusing. Everyone knew Prototype. That's DK Metcalf. He looks like the number one wide receiver, but in terms of production, he's on there.

[Chris Cody]

He's on a list. Brandon Cook's probably on that list.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. He's a weird player, though.

[Chris Cody]

What do you mean?

[Stugotz]

Because he's got undeniable talent, and he's. He's got speed that you can't teach. Those guys, the fast guys, they. They find ways to stay in the league forever. Like, I. My theory is Tyreek Hill's gonna end up playing for like four more teams because.

[Chris Cody]

Four more.

[Stugotz]

Yeah, because he's just. People are just gonna be so enamored with that speed. Look, at the end of DeSean Jackson's career, he kind of went to multiple different spots because they know that nine route. We can always count on that. But Brandon Cooks was doing that throughout his entire career.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

And he seems like a decent dude.

[Chris Cody]

Like.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Not.

[Stugotz]

Not a bad locker room guy. I just don't understand.

[Chris Cody]

We played in New England again, when you.

[Stugotz]

That's right. Briefly, for like two weeks. But when you think of Brandon Cooks, I guess you think of him as a New Orleans Saint, I guess.

[Chris Cody]

No, no.

[Tony]

Play for the Rams for a little bit too.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, he went for a stack for damn near every team he played almost every team. Until I think the Cowboys.

[Stugotz]

Cowboys, Texans.

[Chris Cody]

It was like seven or eight straight years with a thousand yards receiving for four different franchises.

[Stugotz]

That's really uncommon.

[Chris Cody]

It is. That's what I'm saying. That's why it's underrated, especially to be wherever you go, produce thousand yard seasons.

[Stugotz]

But why don't they want to? Hey, why isn't there ever a team that's like, hey, man, we really love that thousand yard season. We'd like for you to have another one with us.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah, I don't know.

[Stugotz]

He's not a bad guy.

[Chris Cody]

He's not a bad guy, but he's very like. He's business like, though. I liked him.

[Tony]

Hawk. Hawk. I'm sure you Love the early 2010Seahawks where you had Doug Baldwin on one side, Tyler Lockett on the other side, ripping apart the league, both going for a thousand yards and basically almost 100 catches every season. That's been good for you to see that and been like, yeah, were Doug.

[Chris Cody]

Baldman and How long did they overlap? Doug Baldwin and Tyler Lockett?

[Tony]

A couple of years.

[Chris Cody]

Because the Lockett came in, what, in 2016.

[Stugotz]

Doug Baldwin did it a different way too. Lockett's got.

[Chris Cody]

Baldwin came in on 2011. I think Lockett came in in 2016. Baldwin was a very special one because he was, I believe, undrafted.

[Stugotz]

He's a guts and guile guy.

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. That was a Stanford team that I believe had Griff Whalen, who I believe got drafted to the Colts, Ryan Whalen, who got drafted to the Bengals, and Morgan Whalen. And Morgan Whalen, who obviously became an incredible music artist in the Whalen family. But also like Andrew Luck was the quarterback and Richard Sherman was There.

[Jeremy]

Kobe Fleener.

[Chris Cody]

Kobe Fleen. They had all these people that, like, went to places, and Baldwin was the guy that went undrafted, and he just, from day one, just ripped it up. And he was a big piece of Russell Wilson. Being Russell Wilson in the whole Seahawks phenomenon.

[Tony]

Had three or four years that they were overlapping where Doug was obviously a one on that team. 2015 went 78 for 10, 69 and 14 touchdowns.

[Stugotz]

We mentioned Mike Williams retiring from the Chargers, and I don't know why anybody would retire from the Chargers. When you see the latest uniform set that they put out around the league, is it reputed that the Chargers just got the nicest threads? That's.

[Chris Cody]

I like the Chargers threads. Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Uniforms are a big deal to players.

[Chris Cody]

No, they are. I think the Bengals have great threads, man.

[Stugotz]

I mean, but look at this.

[Chris Cody]

Charger's got a nice variant baby blue. When they're all together like that, that does look cool.

[Stugotz]

Look at all the options, too.

[Chris Cody]

They have a lot of options. I love the navies. Those are my favorites.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Tony]

The old school junior sale, Daniel Thomas. The navies.

[Chris Cody]

They are. Those are dope. I do feel like the band. Because the good thing about the Chargers, it is they have, like, that aesthetic that head to toe is cold. The helmet is cold, the color scheme is cold.

[Stugotz]

There isn't a bad.

[Chris Cody]

Unis are cold.

[Stugotz]

Not a single bad luck.

[Chris Cody]

There's not, man. You know, and it's undercover, like, to have a dope helmet. Not everyone has dope helmets like you have. The Bengals has. The Bengals.

[Tony]

White Tiger helmets is fire.

[Chris Cody]

Yes, of course. The Bengals helmets are tier one. The Rams got dope helmets, the Chargers got dope helmets. What other dope helmets are there?

[Tony]

I like Baltimore in the all black with the purple accents.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, it's a great color scheme.

[Tony]

I know obviously you're a little biased.

[Chris Cody]

But like, Carolinas, Carolinas, they got a dope color scheme.

[Stugotz]

Dallas got cool helmets.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, like, just the design, like, the decal is like, oh, that's fire. I'm trying to think who else. Eagles. Got it. Yep.

[Tony]

They have Kelly Green, one of his guys with the gray pants.

[Chris Cody]

Eagles.

[Stugotz]

You were in Cleveland when they decided, hey, we're gonna modernize these uniforms. Right. Those were disaster. I did like the pants, though, that said browns on them. Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I guess I wasn't. I wasn't a huge fan. We changed the orange.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

And it was, like, big. And the letters were so big on my jersey. You know, as a smaller player, the letters were, like, wrapping around my torso. So I was like, yo, this is. I love the iconic Browns uniforms. Those ones I was not a fan of. They immediately as soon as the con, as soon as the year contract was up, they went right back to the other.

[Stugotz]

When those uniforms came out, I was like, damn, we're gonna be bad. We're gonna be really bad.

[Chris Cody]

Cause we look bad, look bad, play bad.

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