The Big Suey: TVT

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: TVT

Date: February 27, 2026
Live from: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Main Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz
Guests/Contributors: Tony, Jonathan Zaslow, Producer Mike Ryan, Dave Damashek

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Overview

This "Big Suey" episode blends the offbeat, irreverent sports talk and pop culture banter the show is known for, broadcasting from Miami’s Elser Hotel. The crew dives into the NFL Combine's relevance, viral moments in sports, wings (as in chicken wings) culture, strip clubs collaborating with pro sports teams, and nostalgic stories featuring sandwiches and road trips. Expect winding, rapid-fire conversations, playful mockery, and the kind of bizarre, insightful, and hilarious digressions unique to Le Batard and crew.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The NFL Combine: Relevance & Viral Napping Coach

Time: 01:19–08:10

• Reuben Bain’s "Short Arms":

  • The hosts riff on a viral, photoshopped photo making Reuben Bain’s arms look tiny.
  • Tony: “I love people just finding out right now that Reuben Bain doesn’t have the prototypical size and has small arms...He is incredible against the run. He is a ferocious pass rusher.” (01:44)
  • The group laughs about long-running scouting tropes like "T-Rex arms."

• Coach Sleeping at the Combine:

  • Laughter over Jets coach Aaron Glenn appearing to fall asleep during Combine coverage.
  • Dan: “If you’re a coach of a bad team attending the NFL combine, probably not the place or the time to fall asleep.” (03:34)
  • Producer Mike Ryan: “The Combine is a great napping sport. It’s like watching golf.” (04:40)
  • Jonathan Zaslow passionately defends Glenn: “I will always be a champion defending the weak and the undertrodden about these viral decontextualized videos. Stop it, America.” (06:03)

• Worst Places to Wake Up After Sleeping Accidentally:

  • Mike Francesa’s famous on-air nap is recounted as the "holy grail" of such moments.
  • Dan: “Look, look, look. See the shoulders getting pretty meaningful.” (10:04)

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2. Games & Laughs: Connect Four, Sports Trivia, and Mock Competitions

Time: 11:22–21:30

• Dave Damashek Claims to Be a GOAT at Connect Four:

  • Dave: “...I’m a world champion Connect Four player. Yeah, I still... I only now play recreationally. I retired some years ago. There was nothing left for me to achieve in the sport.” (11:24–11:48)
  • The panel mocks “GOAT” bravado and debates board game strategies.

• Mr. Lister Sports Challenge:
  Super Bowl-losing starting quarterbacks back-and-forth battle between Tony and Dave.

  • Dave initiates: “Super Bowl-losing starting quarterbacks. Tony, since you vanquished Cody with a plum yesterday day, you go first.” (18:24)
  • Error/Repeats lead to Tony’s defeat; Dave rapid-fires deep-cut QB answers.
  • Dan: “Excellent battle.” (20:01)

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3. Promotional Night: Atlanta Hawks and Magic City Strip Club

Time: 21:34–28:13

• The Hawks are holding a "Magic City Monday" with the famous strip club Magic City, featuring their renowned lemon pepper wings.

• Debate if this is unprecedented for pro sports teams; they swap legendary stories about strip clubs and infamous player visits (Lou Williams).

  • Dave: “I’d say the most famous in these United States.” (22:25)
  • Jonathan Zaslow: Defends the wings’ reputation: “Their wings are world renowned. When I was in college, we used to go literally just for the food.” (23:59)
  • Tony: “Lemon pepper wings is the best flavor of wings in the planet.” (24:26)

• Prize:

  • Limited edition hoodie with Magic City and Hawks collaboration; Zaslow openly begs for one:
    “If you need me to come to Atlanta and support and do anything, I will do whatever it takes. Just give me the hoodie, please.” (25:35)

• Anecdote:

  • Zaslow tells a story about almost getting in trouble with Hawks assistant coach Rick Mahorn due to a mischievous Paul Silas prank.
  • Zaslow: “Mahorn turned around and I’ve never seen him with that kind of rage in his eyes and I realize he thinks that I did that.” (27:40)
  • Dave: “Rick Mahorn, who’s one of the great bullies in sports history, understood...know your limits.” (28:24)

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4. Wing Flavors & Food Debates

Time: 28:50–34:37

• Ranking Wing Flavors:

  • Arguing lemon pepper vs. Carolina mustard vs. classic buffalo.
  • Tony: “Lemon pepper is like, right there trying to overtake teriyaki.” (31:10)
  • Dave: “What they’re doing...Carolina mustard barbecue. Just a mouthful of tang.” (30:07)
  • Producer Mike Ryan: “I’ve never seen mustard as an option for a wing flavor.” (31:41)

• Wing Eating Challenges:

  • Dave shares tales from old BW3 “50 wings in 15 minutes” contests.
  • Dave: “70 wings in 14 minutes and 30 seconds. Did the 70 faster than I did the 50 because like I say, no drug testing.” (33:44)

• Dan’s Dislike for Messy Food:

  • Le Batard confesses he dislikes wings because they dirty his hands, drawing playful ridicule from the group.

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5. Legendary Tuna Sandwich Story & Road Trip Memory

Time: 34:44–42:06

• In a classic callback, Mike Ryan recounts a now-mythic Pearl Jam road trip where Zaslow made him a tuna sandwich for the car ride.
• Dan: “Since he was early, I’m gonna have to bring the sandwich in the car now. Oh, but that’s rude if I only have a sandwich for myself. So I made him a tuna sandwich as well.” (36:36)
• The story spirals into a debate about etiquette, car ride food choices, and Mike’s “peculiar” framing of it on the show.
• Zaslow (reflective): “What a mess. What a great time. Instead, I turn on the radio and the conversation is how when you take a car ride with Zaslow, he makes tuna sandwiches for everyone.” (41:19)
• Dave: “You stand here and look a gift horse, a literal gift horse in the mouth and say, tuna toasted. Peculiar. That’s your response. Not, thank you, sir.” (39:45)
• Ends with camaraderie as Tony credits Zaslow for introducing him to Pearl Jam and recounts Kings of Leon as an opener.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “The Combine is a great napping sport. It’s like watching golf.” — Producer Mike Ryan (04:40)*
• “Viral decontextualization. I will always be a champion defending the weak and the undertrodden about these viral decontextualized videos. Stop it, America.” — Jonathan Zaslow (06:03)*
• “Yeah, I only now play [Connect Four] recreationally. I retired some years ago. There was nothing left for me to achieve in the sport.” — Dave Damashek (11:48)*
• “I’d say [Magic City] the most famous in these United States.” — Dave Damashek (22:25)*
• “Their wings are world renowned...Once you get your order, you get your order and you leave.” — Jonathan Zaslow (23:59)*
• “Lemon pepper wings is the best flavor of wings in the planet.” — Tony (24:26)*
• “You want the crust?” — Tony (39:04)*
• ”You gave him a nice pat on the back. And what did he say? He accused you of putting a knife into his back. It’s outrageous.” — Dave Damashek (41:43)*

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Timestamps for Noteworthy Segments

• 00:32 – Opening banter, show setup, and Combine talk begins
• 01:19 – Reuben Bain’s viral “tiny arms” discussion
• 03:34 – Debate about Aaron Glenn’s nap; defending viral moments
• 05:52 – Networking and “sleeping at the combine“
• 10:04 – Mike Francesa’s legendary on-air nap
• 11:22 – Connect Four “GOAT” debate
• 18:24 – Super Bowl-losing QB trivia game
• 21:34 – Atlanta Hawks x Magic City strip club night revealed
• 23:39 – Lou Williams’ famous Magic City wings anecdote
• 25:35 – Zaslow pleads for the Magic City x Hawks hoodie
• 27:40 – Zaslow nearly gets in trouble with Rick Mahorn anecdote
• 30:07 – Heated wing flavor debates
• 33:33 – Wing eating contest memories
• 34:44 – Road trip, tuna sandwich, and running gags
• 41:19 – Zaslow reflects on the story’s legacy
• 42:06 – Tony credits Zaslow for his musical taste evolution

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Tone & Style

The show remains chaotic, irreverent, and joyfully self-deprecating. There’s constant ribbing, mock outrage, and a genuine affection beneath the feisty debates. Sports culture is just the tip of the iceberg; most discussions quickly slip into personal stories, food tangents, and group therapy for viral embarrassments.

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For those who missed it, this episode is classic Le Batard: insider sports talk colliding with pop culture, food, and life’s indignities—served with laughter, reminiscence, and the occasional plea for a branded hoodie.

Transcript

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jonathan Zaslow]

Why are you listening to this show,

[Dan LeBatard]

the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Dave Damashek]

I'm sorry.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Tony]

I've done it.

[Dan LeBatard]

And now here's the marching man to

[Jonathan Zaslow]

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[Producer Mike Ryan]

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[Tony]

DraftKings.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

The Crown is yours.

[Dan LeBatard]

You guys think you're cute. Not so cute.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Tried to catch it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not so cute this morning.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Should have waited a little longer. Just. Just wait it out. Just see how long it takes them.

[Dan LeBatard]

So the NFL combine is going on right now. It's like, who cares, you know?

[Tony]

Did you see Reuben Bain sucks.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I told small arms.

[Tony]

Yeah, just. He's a football player now.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Hold on, hold on. Photoshopping of his arms.

[Dave Damashek]

I saw that one.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Like, what?

[Dave Damashek]

So good.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, good. Because I saw a picture and I'm like, there's no way that's real. So there is a Photoshop one out there.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I shouldn't have said anything. I give it away.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's got, like, alligator arms. That's not real, right? Oh, it's fake because you can't draft that.

[Tony]

No, it's. I love people just finding out right now that Reuben Bain doesn't have the prototypical size and has small arms. This has been the book on T. Rex arm. It's why he wasn't a five star. He is incredible against the run. He is a ferocious pass rusher. And there's still some mock drafts with dudes that play a similar position that have shorter arms than him.

[Dave Damashek]

Now is not the time for arms.

[Dan LeBatard]

So I don't know if you saw, though, yesterday at the comp. You know, teams that are really bad, their coaches should, like, pay real attention at the combine. You know, those are teams that really need to know what's Going on. Wouldn't you agree, Dave? If you're, if you're a coach, sound counsel. If you're a, you should pay attention. If you're a coach and your team sucks, you got to pay attention to the combine.

[Dave Damashek]

Well, what it, what it shows is, is that the, that the combine is outmoded in a lot of ways. I mean, it is pretty obvious beyond the tell at this point. The Jags and Rams don't attend. A lot of people have pulled back, a lot of teams have pulled back the number of people that they put out there. There are other methods to, to evaluate these guys that are better. And what you'll learn is obviously it's a face to face, press the flesh opportunity with your peers and, and the larger community of football people along with meeting these prospects. But what matters ultimately is there's the tape. And football teams understand that the tape is what matters. Would you agree, though, more than how fast they run the three cone drill?

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, but would you agree that if you're a coach of a bad team, and in this case, let's say the team is the jets and let's say the coach is Aaron Glenn. All right, man.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Not y' all not go do this to my guy, man.

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't do anything to him. Yeah, no one did.

[Dave Damashek]

Viral. How dare you show what he did viral decontextualization.

[Dan LeBatard]

How dare I show what he did on national television.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Coach Glenn hit me up. I will take.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Maybe it was just a long blink.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wouldn't you assume if you're a coach of a bad team attending the NFL combine, Probably not the place or the time to fall asleep.

[Tony]

That's right. It's usually a cabinet meeting.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you'll hear Rich Eisen, he's on the broadcast, you know, for NFL Network, and he's talking about players here who are doing very, very fun stuff at the combine. But Aaron Glenn, they show on camera. He would rather get in a schluff.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So Daniel Jeremiah's top 50 prospects as Aaron Glenn looks on for the Jets.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Not looking.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Fernando Mendoza, one love. Who will also see on Saturday here on NFL Network, the running back from Notre Dame 2.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, Dave, very quickly, someone was like coach on screen. And he popped up, opened his eyes, started looking around to make sure that, hey, I'm awake, I'm here.

[Dave Damashek]

It's very funny in that, in that cutaway and everything else, but Mike Ryan just said it all. I mean, am I, if I'm a Jets fan, if I'm a New Yorker, am I supposed to get Real, real worked up about this. There are other people who fall asleep, and things that you might make a case are more important.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

The Combine is a great napping sport.

[Tony]

It seems like it's a good one.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

It's like watching golf.

[Tony]

Also, like, if I'm a Jets fan, I'm already resigned to the fact that Aaron Glenn's probably around for one more season anyway, so I can't really work myself up all that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You ever been to a combine? Any of you guys? You have, right?

[Tony]

Sure, sure.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Do you watch every single minute? I don't.

[Dave Damashek]

Coming at me about how raw I am about Aaron Glay taking a nap. I just told you I don't care that much.

[Tony]

People go to the Combine to network. It's like, summer, I just said, right?

[Dave Damashek]

What matters?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm not attacking you.

[Tony]

We're on your side, bro.

[Dave Damashek]

We're trying to.

[Tony]

Hey, let us park our car in your garage.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Let us close this garage.

[Dave Damashek]

Let us.

[Tony]

Hey, yo.

[Dave Damashek]

That's the sound of the garage going up. It's open now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Come on in.

[Tony]

We're trying to defend you.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, but, Amin, that's not the question. Do you only watch the combine if you're there? The question is, do you only watch the combine? And if you're not only watching the combine, do you decide to fall asleep?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You don't decide to fall. He didn't decide to fall asleep. You don't know how hard he's been working. He's burning a candle on both ends here. Come on now. Oh, my God. I snoozed while some dude ran. Oh, my God. No, that's not the be all end all of this whole exercise. Number one. Number two. So they caught him. You know how many other guys were sleeping in that stadium? Probably the whole stadium. But it just happened to be on him when he caught his nap. Viral decontextualization. I will always be a champion defending the weak and the undertrodden about these viral decontextualized videos. Stop it. Stop it, America.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I'm more interested in just where the worst places to wake up are. Because I would argue on live TV is pretty high up there in terms of the worst places to wake up.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'll tell you what. What killed him if he had just woke up and just let it up. But the.

[Dave Damashek]

The.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The fervent, like, the feverish checking of.

[Dan LeBatard]

How long was I out?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, look, right here. Okay, yeah, run it.

[Dan LeBatard]

The stumble.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

All right, here we go.

[Dan LeBatard]

Here we go.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

No, no, I wasn't asleep.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, wait. Oh, no.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I'm very alert.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Run the whole thing. Because he looks, he looks around, he looks around. It's like it's the camera here, camera there.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I'm very alert. I couldn't be more awake.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

See that? Look to the right.

[Tony]

The worst place to wake up is on public transportation after you missed your stop.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's not.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

That's a bad one.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I would argue waking up on the highway like you're driving to work in

[Dave Damashek]

the morning and you're like Beatrix Kiddo did. Wouldn't be any good in Kill Bill too. By the way. Football America movie episode coming at you in just an hour or two from now. Guests Amin and Zaz. And we do a Tarantino character. Draft them on. Other important, don't plug until you can

[Jonathan Zaslow]

make sure the guests are there.

[Dave Damashek]

You were there. We already did it. Remember?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Just wanted to make sure.

[Dan LeBatard]

I will tell you.

[Dave Damashek]

All asleep. Did you. Aaron Glenn, that show. Maybe me and Zaz were doing a lot of the talking.

[Dan LeBatard]

I will tell the audience. We did. We recorded that show. We had a lot of fun with Quentin Tarantino. Who's my favorite. We had a lot of fun with Quentin Tarantino movies. I, I mean, Rachel Nichols outed me. We had a lot of fun with that episode yesterday. And I highly recommend watching today's episode of Football America. I would love to do that again. Just. Just talk about Quentin Tarantino movies. Are you kidding me?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'd like to point out once again my man like blinked for a second and everyone took that to be. He fell asleep. But I'm gonna tell you where the worst.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

By his reaction, you could tell he was asleep by his right. I'm not asleep.

[Dave Damashek]

I'm alert.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's cause someone yelled at him.

[Dave Damashek]

Why are you so invested in defending this behavior?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Two reasons. One, because I'm a champion for viral decontam, contextualization, dismantling. That's number one. But number two is because when I was in college, the semester I was like, I gotta get my shit together. I haven't. I'm gonna. You know what? None of these late classes go to early morning classes.

[Dan LeBatard]

I had a sucker.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Poli Sci, 7:30am I said, I'm gonna be there and I'm gonna be attentive and I'm gonna get good grades or whatever. And so the first like couple of classes I would go and I would kind of doze off sometimes. And then there was a class where I dozed off in the middle of class. And it's one of those. It's Poli Sci 101. So it's like 300 students, massive auditorium. I woke up, the entire auditorium was empty save for three or four students at the front who were waiting to talk to the professor. And so, and I'm sitting in the middle, the middle. So basically all around me, 360 were students getting up and collecting their things. 300 of them leaving, did not stir. All I felt was a drew a pool of drool on my shoulder. And I never, I never went back to that class again.

[Dave Damashek]

See, that's the way, that's what I was just going to say. I never ran into problems like that because I didn't go to the classes in the first place.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. Okay. So worse places to wake up after dozing off those. After dozing off. Excuse me, is that worse? And we just saw Aaron Glenn do to the combine. To me the classic. All right, Mike Francesa, Sports Pope, WFA and New York on YES Network. This has got to be like a dozen years ago. I would say a dozen maybe. Yeah, about a dozen years ago. And here is for, for the audio audience, Mike Francesa. It's on tv. It's on YES network. He has Sweeney Murty who is a Yankees reporter on the phone with him. And Mike is listening and very clearly falls asleep live on television.

[Sweeney Murty]

You know, the Yankees took care of them pretty good. If I remember in the end of that season there, there was a, there's a three game set I think at Benway, another one at the Yankee Stadium which they just kind of walked right through. But otherwise these late season series.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, look, look, look. See the shoulders getting pretty meaningful.

[Sweeney Murty]

It's a very long and it's just not the case. Finally, the first time in a long time.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The page is very wide

[Sweeney Murty]

is part of this. The Yankees have been a little effective pitchers lately. Where am I going to face two

[Dave Damashek]

of them in the series?

[Sweeney Murty]

So no matter what they said something

[Jonathan Zaslow]

the guys were talking to his producer

[Sweeney Murty]

like where am I hold the Yankees down. You know, you could be looking at a game where they might lose three to one or four to one.

[Dave Damashek]

All right, we're talking with Sweeney.

[Dan LeBatard]

Obviously that is my all time. Obviously that is obviously all time favorite.

[Dave Damashek]

I don't like the word blue, but I do have at least one pal that I can think of who has he actually he says he fell asleep in coitus, but then I've heard of the the other way happening. Yeah, I don't think you ever come.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

She fell asleep. Yeah, so they both fell asleep.

[Dave Damashek]

I happened to be. I. You may, you may look at me and be Surprised to hear this. I happen to be a vigorous lovemaker, so that would never happen to me.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Put that in the club.

[Dave Damashek]

But if that did happen to you, I don't know that you ever didn't.

[Dan LeBatard]

We decide earlier in the week that no one calls it making love.

[Dave Damashek]

Why?

[Dan LeBatard]

That's not true.

[Dave Damashek]

You're right. You're right. I'm trying to bring it back or try to make it a thing. Now, we said no one asks someone else to make love. Oh, yeah, right. But you can be as damaged as a vigorous lovemaker.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's the time.

[Dave Damashek]

Thank you, everyone.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's one of the two things everybody knows about you. Vigorous lovemaker.

[Dave Damashek]

That I'm a world champion Connect four player. Yeah, I still.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I see.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Where do you start in the. Well, I'm first one in the middle.

[Dave Damashek]

You go wide. Where do you start? Sure.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Dave Damashek]

You got to go down the middle. Yeah, that's one. I like to go wide. Well, that's a mistake. And you. And you would lose very quickly.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Now, I bet you put the X in the middle and tic tac toe also.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Dave Damashek]

No, that's not the correct strategy. But either way, just so you know, do. Should you and I ever find the occasion to play Connect 4, I only now play recreationally. I retired some years ago. There was nothing left for me to achieve in the sport. That gave me a lot. And I felt that it was disrespectful for me to press on. It's something less than my best. I gave. I gave everything I had and more to the sport. And it. And it did a lot for me. And I retired.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll play it.

[Dave Damashek]

I'll do exhibition.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, he's spoken like a true goat. Because I know every time Michael Jordan plays basketball, he just says, oh, yeah, I don't really do this anymore, so this is just for fun. I don't care if you beat me. That's not how goats speak. Goats say, I don't care if I'm in a wheelchair.

[Dave Damashek]

You know, Michael Jordan will still kill you, though, right?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Exactly.

[Dave Damashek]

That's right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, is that what you're saying?

[Dave Damashek]

Is that what you're saying? Are you picking up what I'm laying

[Jonathan Zaslow]

down fake modesty over here?

[Dave Damashek]

No, it's not. I just told you, you're not going to 100% Dave, the world champion three times over connect four player. You're not going to get that version of Dave.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

100% Dave. I got plenty.

[Dave Damashek]

I got plenty to defeat you with, though. And Chris Cody, I mean, obviously he's self defeating doesn't take the middle and

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Don LeBatard.

[Tony]

Witty. We have a photo right here. If you can see in this photo with my daughter, there I am pointing exactly to the point on the Stanley cup where it says, you suck ass, Stugats. Right there. They engraved.

[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

Really?

[Tony]

It's like. Yeah, they got it engraved right there. It says, chris Whittingham sucks ass.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dave Damashek]

Let's play another game, though. I'm a man of peace. And that said, I. I feel like we should bring two of the fellas behind the glass closer together by creating a division between them. Oh, it's.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I want in on this.

[Dave Damashek]

TNT. I gave. I. I wanted to do Mr. Lister trade back and forth. You say one, then the other says one, and you trade back and forth until one of you runs out. I tried to do that with Tony and Chris Cody yesterday. I. Unfortunately, before it could get untracked, Chris Cody shouted lions repeatedly.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Yeah, I kind of screwed that up.

[Dave Damashek]

Ruined it. So you're now out forever instead, Tony's new ongoing foe. Yes. Mike Ryan.

[Tony]

You're going to pit people against one another.

[Dave Damashek]

That's right. That's right.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, yeah.

[Tony]

It's been a good week.

[Dave Damashek]

Here we go, tnt. First event. A never ending decathlon. Or is it tvt? It's Tony Vita Shay. In one corner, it's a tall Cuban fella wearing a throwback Raiders jersey that says nothing about where they play because it doesn't make a difference. They're the Raiders forever. In the other corner, it's a smaller Semitic fella wearing a shirt that looks like it came off of an ottoman. It's Jeremy Cachet. Whoa.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. You can say it.

[Tony]

And I will say, represent the political spectrum.

[Dave Damashek]

That's right.

[Tony]

You're not closer to me than you are to him. You'd be surprised.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can we. Can we get, like, some.

[Tony]

We got to get on that Cuban thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Can we get some, like, music?

[Dave Damashek]

Hey, I'm Cuban too.

[Dan LeBatard]

That pits these guys against each other.

[Dave Damashek]

I'd like that. Can we get some music?

[Tony]

Can we find Pitting music?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, music that portrays, like, a battle,

[Dave Damashek]

you know, you don't even know what the category. How do you know you're going to kick his ass?

[Tony]

Matter.

[Dave Damashek]

I just hope we both have fun. I think this. I. I was meditating on what category and I think this suits you both. And since I like to talk about football on football America. That makes sense to start there. Everybody knows about football. Here we go. Historical. Lot of names on this one. Super bowl, losing starting quarterbacks. Tony, since you vanquished Cody with a plum yesterday day, you go first.

[Tony]

Super bowl, losing starting quarterbacks.

[Dave Damashek]

That's what I said. Let's not do the nonsense of. Let's start with Drake May repeating the question. Drake May is.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone knows that trick. You say it again, it gives you more time to think.

[Dave Damashek]

That's right.

[Tony]

I said the most recent one.

[Dave Damashek]

Tom Brady. Tom Brady has lost more than one Super Bowl. In fact, a backup QB in one. In one instance, Tony Europe.

[Tony]

Let's go with Jimmy Garoppolo.

[Dave Damashek]

Jimmy G lost a Super Bowl. Really could have won it. Patrick Mahomes has lost one.

[Tony]

Let's go to Joe Burrow.

[Dave Damashek]

I like the. Let's go Jared Goff. Okay.

[Tony]

Let's go to Peyton Manning.

[Dave Damashek]

Kurt Warner. Let's go to bait that Pittsburgh Steelers.

[Tony]

Let's go to Dan Marino.

[Dave Damashek]

Any boy. Kurt Warner.

[Narrator/Commercial Announcer]

He said it.

[Dan LeBatard]

He said it.

[Dave Damashek]

He just said it. What do we say? What do we say?

[Tony]

I know Kurt Warner lost.

[Dave Damashek]

Popped into my head. You cannot go Kurt.

[Tony]

He's done, right?

[Dave Damashek]

I go double up. I can't.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, no.

[Dave Damashek]

I can't. Can I go double up?

[Tony]

Thank you.

[Dave Damashek]

Matt Ryan.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, you lost, Tony. One.

[Dave Damashek]

You want to keep going, Tony? Just to kill a little bit, see how far you can get. Said it and then it around my head.

[Tony]

Can we go Cam Newton.

[Dave Damashek]

You can go Kurt Warner. In order. Len Dawson. Daryl Lamonica.

[Tony]

In order.

[Dave Damashek]

Wow. Earl Moore.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

So you wanted to make this your show because.

[Tony]

Okay.

[Dave Damashek]

I thought it would be fun. I called Jeremy and now I'll stop, though, if that. If it's beneath you to. To show off my wares, then.

[Tony]

Then I'll lay out. Can you take them?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Nobody noticed.

[Tony]

Would you. I. I did.

[Dave Damashek]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

Excellent battle.

[Dave Damashek]

Not that good. T. I'm. I told you I was going to kick his ass. I told you I was going to kick his ass.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

It's like, you know, it's like when you're trying to say something else and then somebody says something. O'.

[Tony]

Donnell. Ben Roethlisberger.

[Dave Damashek]

Ben Roethlisberger. Yeah.

[Tony]

He lost.

[Dave Damashek]

I.

[Tony]

He lost Aaron Rod.

[Dave Damashek]

Oh, did he?

[Tony]

You remember that? Dan Humphries. See that game you remember about, like Jake Dehome. Jordy Nelson. You know about that? Jordy Nelson.

[Ad Voice]

I.

[Dave Damashek]

Listen, I. I know it all. There's that. There's the super bowl history. What's that?

[Tony]

James Jones. You know about that? James Jones.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's my gimmick, too.

[Tony]

James Stark. That was a bad team.

[Dave Damashek]

Not great. Yeah. You know, Rashad Kendall fumbled at the first play of the fourth quarter. Or else. Rothlisberger has three Lombardi's in the span of six seasons. And then it. Whether you like it or not, is in the conversation for the best super bowl era quarterback doesn't get it. But if he has three rings in his first six seasons. Oh, I'll keep going. Russell Wilson, Rashad Mendenhall. I love it. I love it. Matt Hasselbeck, I'd like you to go with. You know, when you're typing the best quarter. How about that? That's what happened to me with Kurt Warner. It just happened in my brain and I said it out loud.

[Tony]

I'm just thinking about where the laws.

[Dave Damashek]

Yeah. Tarkinton, Val Kilmer. You didn't let me keep going because you lost. That's it.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, everybody settle down.

[Tony]

We'll play again in November.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everybody settled down.

[Dave Damashek]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

So, you know, sometimes pro sports teams, they'll do promotions. You know, at an upcoming game, they'll partner with maybe a local establishment or something, you know, and they'll have a certain type, a certain promotional night. Well, the Atlanta Hawks know about them Hawks.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I mean, I know all about them Hawks.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Atlanta Hawks coming up. Did you really?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I worked for the Hawks. It was my first job in the NBA.

[Dave Damashek]

Okay.

[Tony]

All right.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Atlanta Hawks coming up on March 16th against the Orlando Magic, they have a promotional night where they are partnering with a very fine local establishment. All right. This local establishment is called Magic City.

[Tony]

Yes.

[Dave Damashek]

Now, I don't know.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dave Damaschek, are you aware.

[Dave Damashek]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of Magic? Yeah, he answered it immediately.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

They have good wings.

[Dan LeBatard]

Magic City, you may remember. Very famous. It's a very famous.

[Dave Damashek]

I'd say the most famous in these United States. Whoa. Yeah.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Scarlets would like a word.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it's more famous than Scarlets by a lot. Mile. All right. Would you say it's the most famous Magic city?

[Dave Damashek]

Montreal and Toronto may be more.

[Dan LeBatard]

Montreal, North America, incredible strip club.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We're not talking about the city. We're talking about the one establishment. This is the most famous as a what?

[Dave Damashek]

Right.

[Tony]

Probably Chris is very eager to play this experiment.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Rhino in Vegas.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's a good one. That's a good.

[Dave Damashek]

Thank you.

[Dan LeBatard]

That was Magic City, very famously, the strip club in Atlanta where all the players got in trouble, and it was like, Patrick Ewing back. Gold Club.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That was Gold Club in there, too.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so it was not Magic City. Nonetheless, Tampa, you know. You know about Tampa's clubs. Come on, now. You know about Mons.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Mons.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know about right across street. Space Odyssey.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

You have a spaceship.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Does 11 count? Does 11 count?

[Producer Mike Ryan]

11's in the conversation.

[Tony]

I'm not gonna let it count now.

[Dan LeBatard]

Eleven's a club that has strip.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, I agree. I agree with you.

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not a strip club. Magic City, very famously, is a strip club in Atlanta, which also is very well known, as you may remember from back in the bubble in 2020 in the NBA playoffs, where Lou Williams, he had an excused absence. I think he went to, like, a family event.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think it was a funeral.

[Dan LeBatard]

May have been a funeral. And he got in trouble because during this excused time off, he went to Magic City for what he claims was just to order the lemon pepper wings.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So. Okay, so I'd like to defend him right here because he's not what he claims. Their wings are world renowned.

[Dave Damashek]

I.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

When I was in college, we used to go literally just for the food. Like, I'm hungry. What do you want? Let's get the wings from Magic. And, yeah, you look at what's happening. But once you get your order, you get your order and you leave.

[Tony]

Yeah, the wings are tiny, or so I've heard.

[Dave Damashek]

Lemon pepper wings is an overrated flavor. Oh, my God.

[Tony]

This caught me again. Whoa, whoa. Hey, white guys, what are you doing? Hold on. Didn't he mix lemon pepper with barbecue?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Did he

[Tony]

just.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Solely lemon pepper since then, Lemon pepper

[Tony]

is the best flavor of wings in the planet.

[Dave Damashek]

That's silly.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so if I can get back to. Before we circle back to Magic City and how amazing it is. Clearly.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

The Atlanta Hawks have partnered for a promotional night with Magic City on March 16th against your land of Magic. It's Magic City Monday.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

That's a halftime show where they are

[Dan LeBatard]

also giving away the video. Audience can see the promotional graphic here where they are giving away a hooded sweatshirt with Magic City spread across the front and the Atlanta Hawks logo on the side.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And they got the wings in the background.

[Dan LeBatard]

And you got the wings.

[Tony]

Right.

[Dave Damashek]

So they're giving out wings.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let me read the promotional material here.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You can get. Yeah, there you go.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. The promotional material that comes with Hawks fans are in for a feast. The Magic City kitchen will be serving its world Famous lemon pepper wings. Naturally, the menu will include Lou Will lemon pepper barbecue. A nod to NBA player Lou Williams, who famously stopped by the joint to pick up some chicken. Or so he says while on a pro from the NBA bubble.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This is. Or so he says, part of the.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, okay.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So I'd like to. This is my camera right here. Right. Okay. Atlanta, the Hawks organization. I work for you guys. I got my start in the NBA working for your organization. Had a wonderful time, got my foot in the door, and it was a memorable time. When I say, I need that hoodie right here. And I will wear it on the Dan Levittark show right here. Millions of listeners will see me wearing that hoodie. Promo department, marketing. Department marketing, partnerships, whatever you need. If you need me to come to Atlanta and support and do anything, I will do whatever it takes. Just give me the hoodie, please.

[Dave Damashek]

I'd like one, too. I mean, didn't you almost get killed by Rick Mahorn?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes.

[Tony]

What?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Dave Damashek]

So in Atlanta, right?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

At a game. It was at a game, like when

[Dan LeBatard]

he was on the Pistons broadcast.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, no, no. He was. He was an assistant coach with the Hawks.

[Ad Voice]

Oh.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. So Rick Mahorn is the first NBA person I ever knew in my life. Cause I was walking in, it was like, my first day. I'm carrying boxes, and Rick Mahorn comes in. It's a game day. And he knocks the boxes everywhere.

[Ad Voice]

Why do you do that?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

And I'm like. And I'm like, what the hell? And he. And he.

[Dan LeBatard]

How old are you?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Probably like 19 or 20, something like that. Yeah. He starts laughing. I'm like, what a jerk. And then he would just mess with me. But after a while, I figured out, oh, wait, that's. He's. That's. He's doing a thing. And so we became pretty good buddies. And so the end of the season, I think Fan Appreciation Day, they have the guys sign autographs, but because Rick Mahorn. The Hawks were awful. Rick Mahorn is legitimately one of the biggest names in the organization.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's so bad.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So as an assistant coach, he's signing autographs, right? And they got the tables, and the fans are lined up down the concourse, down the stairs. So my job is kind of like crowd control. Just stand behind them, make sure people get one autograph, and keep it moving. And we just played the Cavs. Paul Silas is the head coach. Paul Silas is a big dude, right? So Paul Silas walks up behind my horn, and he goes to me, and I'm like, sure, whatever. And I'm like, is he going to scare him. Whatever. And he smacks the ever loving bejesus out of the back of Rick Mahorn's head. I'm talking about, like the sound reverberated around the cavernous Phillips center at the time now State Farm Arena. And Mahorn turned around and I've never seen him with that kind of rage in his eyes. And I realize he thinks that I did that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why would he think that you did that?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's what I wanted to know. Why would I do that? And then he looks and he sees Paul Silas and instantly all the rage drains out and he starts laughing and they hug and everything.

[Dave Damashek]

Why would that be funny? No matter who did it? Here's my favorite part going forward. Don't hit me. And they expect me to laugh about it. Don't strike me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I said to him, oh, wait a second. You were about to kill me when you thought it was me. But it's Paul Silas. It's a big joke. And he says, Paul Silas is a bad dude. And I was like, you know what?

[Tony]

All right.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just love the idea that for a moment, Rick Mahorn thought randomly. The kid who I haze decided to finally fight back to finally out of nowhere to smack me.

[Dave Damashek]

I like that. Rick Mahorn, who's one of the great bullies in sports history, understood. And it's a great message to everybody who isn't as tough as Rick Mahorin is. Like, know your limits.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

There's. There's a level beyond me.

[Dave Damashek]

I mean, I can destroy Paul Silas. It's in doubt.

[Tony]

Then Paul Silas stuff somebody in his locker.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Tyrus Thomas, who's a big boy, too. Yeah. Although I hear conflicting reports about how that went down, but yes, Paul Silas is a bad dude.

[Tony]

Don LeBatard, you getting started on the breakfast flan?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, man, I've been singing a song to myself all morning long. Breakfast Flan Stugats. Have you never heard the Breakfast Flan song?

[Dave Damashek]

No.

[Tony]

Hit me with it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay. I wish I had some breakfast flan. Breakfast flan. Where can I find a breakfast like that?

[Dan LeBatard]

This is the dan levatar show. Two gods. Have you ever heard of a professional sports team? We're not talking minor league team. A professional sports team partnering with a local strip club for a theme night at a game.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No, but Magical. Magic City is more than a strip. It's an institution.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's still a strip club.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes, but it's an institution. And there's a level of. There's David Magic City waiting on his wings.

[Dave Damashek]

That's right. And they're not lemon pepper.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You want to rank wing flavors.

[Dave Damashek]

I didn't. I don't want to rank. I just made a statement that I'm asking that I'm gonna let sit there.

[Tony]

What's the REM of wing flavors?

[Dave Damashek]

I like a. I like the. What they're doing. They're doing a lot of great work these days with the Carolina mustard barbecue. You know, they've. Now it's. What do you mean? No, tangy. Just a mouthful of tang. Mustard can have some spice to it. Yeah, the nice mustard. Yeah. The yellow mustard barbecue. That's popular on Carolina. So various obscure flavors.

[Tony]

Your number one.

[Dave Damashek]

That's obscure,

[Tony]

defensive. Dave, I did ask for the REM of wing flavors.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yes, sir.

[Dave Damashek]

You think lemon pepper. Lemon pepper is more. Is more universal.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I've never seen mustard as an option

[Dave Damashek]

for a wing flavor. Can I get Carolina mustard?

[Tony]

You know, how basic.

[Dave Damashek]

I disagree. I mean, if you. Right. If you go with. You can get cute again, and you can go hipster if you want. What are the core options?

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Hot garlic.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Hot.

[Dave Damashek]

There's. There's traditional buffalo. Just hot buffalo wing. Then there's usually a spicy barbecue. More and more than teriyaki. Like a teriyaki for the people that don't like it hot. Now, lemon pepper is not ubiquitous.

[Tony]

I think lemon pepper is like a

[Producer Mike Ryan]

cool, very common lemon pepper garlic parm.

[Tony]

Lemon pepper prominent than even garlic parm, which is pretty prominent, I think. I think lemon pepper is, like, right there trying to overtake teriyaki.

[Dave Damashek]

Probably has.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I agree. Lemon pepper has made a big push over the last decade or so.

[Dan LeBatard]

Listen, you know what hasn't made a push?

[Tony]

Look up, old man.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You know what hasn't made a push, Ari? I mean, Carolina barbecue mustard. Whatever.

[Dave Damashek]

Are you crazy?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No push.

[Dave Damashek]

You guys just keep just assuming that because you floated out there that the rest of society's gonna pick up on it and make it so Palameen said it into a microphone, and so therefore it must. Amin doesn't have to say it.

[Tony]

Everybody knows it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Juju, put on the poll. What's bigger, Lemon pepper or Carolina barbecue mustard? Whatever the hell Dave was saying.

[Tony]

I would like to try it, but no one's on your side.

[Dave Damashek]

You've never had Carolina gold. Roy knows what I'm talking about. What would be the correct. Her phrase? I'm not really making much of a case when I can't even say what its proper name is.

[Tony]

I've had it on ribs. Yeah, it works for pork as well, but, yeah, I wouldn't pick that personally.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're on your own, your garage.

[Tony]

And Roy knows a wing and barbecue.

[Dave Damashek]

You think, you think I don't know wings? I was in. You know who doesn't we.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Before you about to give us one of these.

[Dave Damashek]

Before it was Buffalo Wild wings, it was BW3. It was a regional wing. Place all through it. Right at Midwestern schools. I think there were six in total. Yes.

[Tony]

A lot, a lot of fireworks today. By the way, Dave, this microphone's Dan's inner mind.

[Dave Damashek]

Don't throw too.

[Tony]

Trust me. Just let it sit. But everybody's fighting and that's great.

[Dave Damashek]

I went to BW3's Bloomington branch.

[Tony]

Doesn't eat wings because it gets his hands dirty. Attack him.

[Dave Damashek]

And it was Monday.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't care.

[Dave Damashek]

They would have a Monday night wing eating contest. And the standard was he eats like

[Jonathan Zaslow]

a four year old.

[Dave Damashek]

Can you eat 50 wings in 15 minutes? And I used almost every second in that first round.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Really?

[Dave Damashek]

But I survived. Yeah. To eat 50 and 50 wings. 5, 0 in 15 minutes. It took me in fact 14 minutes and 35 to complete the. To complete the feat.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's impressive.

[Dave Damashek]

Three weeks later, I was onto the second round. This time, 70 wings in 20 minutes. I bested my time on the 50 wings. I did better on the 70 because I'm clutch. And also because there was no drug testing, flats or drums. I'll go either one.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

You one of those guys.

[Ad Voice]

You put the whole thing.

[Dave Damashek]

I'm agnostic.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bone out.

[Dave Damashek]

Oh, can you do like the trick.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I know how to.

[Dave Damashek]

What you do is you take it from the top. The double wing. The double.

[Dan LeBatard]

Break it.

[Dave Damashek]

And you push it down. You just push it down.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Turn it into like a. Yep.

[Dave Damashek]

Right? Yeah. Little popper. 70 wings in 14 minutes and 30 seconds. Did the 70 faster than I did the 50 because like I say, no drug testing. Then on to the regional finals. However many wings you can eat in 30 minutes. I got my. My original batch of 50, ate a couple, gave the rest of my friends and left a chamber.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

We've criticized you a lot this week. That's genuinely impressive.

[Tony]

Walked out like a good stuff.

[Dave Damashek]

I knew I wasn't gonna win.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You had nothing to prove. You said guys.

[Dave Damashek]

I mean, I know, I know. I knew what my limits were. Like Rick Mahorn. I turned around and saw the competition and said, I have no shot.

[Tony]

Zaz barely understands the conversation because he has no point of reference. Because he doesn't even.

[Dave Damashek]

I don't like. I don't like. You know what I've got. I've gotten the same thing in old age. Zaz. I don't like that. Like Lady Macbeth can't wash the blood off her hands. I can't wash the smell of wings off my fingers.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

It's a great sm.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's gotten you that way in old age. At any age. He's never liked wings. He's never given it a chance because it's too dirty.

[Dan LeBatard]

Just live my life, dog. Whatever.

[Tony]

Why don't you fork a knife it a wing, a wing.

[Dave Damashek]

What's crazy is not eating wings because it gets your hands dirty.

[Tony]

You can fork a knife it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Whatever.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's so many other great foods. It's not that big a. I don't care. It's not a big deal.

[Tony]

What are you ordering? Hooters.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I can't tell you. Last time I went to Hooters, I

[Tony]

think it was with me after a Pearl Jam show in Tampa. We went to see the NBA Finals. Celtics, Lakers.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't even remember that. I remember the.

[Tony]

After you made me a sandwich for the car ride, which was very sweet.

[Dan LeBatard]

Ah, all right, you know, I'm gonna defend myself.

[Dave Damashek]

No need to defend that.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Super sweet.

[Tony]

He made me a Sammy for the long road trip.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What kind of sandwich was it?

[Dan LeBatard]

Tuna.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That is.

[Dave Damashek]

That's not true. That's diabolical.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, here's what happened.

[Tony]

I think it was toasted.

[Dave Damashek]

Here's.

[Dan LeBatard]

Here's what happened.

[Tony]

I would have thrown out the window,

[Dan LeBatard]

because it wasn't just like, oh, Zaslow made sandwiches for the car ride.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Oh, you had extra tuna yet extra tune.

[Dave Damashek]

I know.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not what happened. And Mike likes to frame it, like. Or Mike leaves it completely ambiguous, so people frame it.

[Dave Damashek]

What?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, we invited Zazzle for the road trip. He's gonna bring sandwiches for the car. No, that's not the way it went down. I invited Mike Ryan. This is, like, 20 years ago, a long time ago. I invited Mike Ryan to come see Pearl Jam with me in Tampa. Which, by the way, how about those seats?

[Tony]

Great seats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Kings of Leon, second row on the floor.

[Dave Damashek]

All right.

[Tony]

This is when Kings of Leon were starting to percolate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yep, Kings of Leon open for them. Great show. And we're going to Tampa to go see Pearl Jam. But I told Mike Ryan, I'm like, look, you know, tickets are on me, of course, but. But you'll drive. Okay. And he said, fine. And so he came to my house to pick me up, and he was, like, a few minutes early. And as a result of him being a few minutes early, I was still making myself lunch. I was making Myself a tuna sandwich.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Sounds like he's gonna bring sandwiches.

[Dan LeBatard]

That I was going to sit down at my kitchen table, eat by myself, but since he was early, I'm gonna have to bring the sandwich in the car now. Oh, but that's rude if I only have a sandwich for myself. So I made him a tuna sandwich as well.

[Tony]

Weird.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I got into the car with a sandwich for me and a sandwich for my friend. And the way the story was told is that we had a great time and Zaslo made tuna sandwiches.

[Tony]

It sounds like you described that exact thing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

How's your tuna? Is it McConaughey level?

[Dave Damashek]

I don't.

[Tony]

I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was. It's fine.

[Tony]

I remember it was toasted, maybe.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't remember that part.

[Tony]

I honestly don't even remember driving. That part kind of threw me. I've got the windows down, at least

[Jonathan Zaslow]

scooping it onto the bread, and that's a. Here's your tuna sandwich. I can't see you.

[Tony]

Actually, I think my initial reaction was like, you really don't have to do that. But it was a very kind.

[Dan LeBatard]

But I already did. We were in the car.

[Dave Damashek]

I know you. You know Mike Ryan better than I do. Are you.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What?

[Dave Damashek]

I. What I'm clearly picking up, Zaz, is that you think Mike Ryan's words are betrayed by his tone. Maybe you think what he impacts somehow. You're a sucker.

[Tony]

I don't give a.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

So, like, people that make sandwiches for car rides are suckers.

[Tony]

You're very sensitive about this because I said that Zaz made me a sandwich, and it was a very nice thing to do.

[Dave Damashek]

I am picking up a mock tone. I'm sorry.

[Tony]

That's a very nice thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

He wants to make it sound like if we bring Zaslo places, he'll make sandwiches for the entire.

[Dave Damashek]

Well, I guess the real test is now I'm going to inform what you do in the future, but if roles were reversed or in an upcoming show, is Mike Ryan going to bring a sandwich for Zaz? No, I. Oh, you're right, Zaz.

[Tony]

Because it's.

[Dave Damashek]

You're right.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

If you're known as a sandwich maker, though, that's a positive Z. If I have a bunch of friends.

[Dave Damashek]

Mike Ryan just said it, though. He's like, that's beneath me. No, I wouldn't do that.

[Dan LeBatard]

I did not say that.

[Tony]

That's not what peculiar means. I said.

[Dave Damashek]

You just said you would do it.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

No, honestly, the only part that's peculiar is the tuna part.

[Tony]

That's crazy.

[Dave Damashek]

In a Car. That's evil.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I get it.

[Dan LeBatard]

You didn't plan to do it in the car. Yeah, this was not planned.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

I mean, a nice little turkey cheese with a little mayo. Like, now we're talking.

[Dave Damashek]

I'm a girl.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm a girl.

[Dave Damashek]

I don't like when kids.

[Tony]

It's a kid's lunch.

[Dave Damashek]

I don't like when people. Sandwiches for the gang and they put mayonnaise on all of them. Don't. Let's not be pretty.

[Tony]

Cut it in half.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Oh, no.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Diagonal.

[Dave Damashek]

Oh, no.

[Tony]

Diagonal.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think it was a roll. My guess, I think I was making on, like, a kaiser.

[Tony]

He's like, you want the crust?

[Dave Damashek]

You can toast the kaiser.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course.

[Dave Damashek]

I think it's really a nice thing to do. Even if Mike Ryan wants a. I

[Dan LeBatard]

know it's a nice thing to do.

[Dave Damashek]

He said, but. But what I don't like is that he's having his cake and eating it, too. Mike Ryan, which the cliche should really be changed to. He wants to have his cake and some pie, because that's really gluttonous, you know? Like, if you give me a cake, I'm. I'm gonna eat it. And if you attack me for dinner, like, dude, I gave him a cake

[Tony]

and he ate it.

[Dave Damashek]

What a slob. Like, yeah, that's what. That's what's gonna go on.

[Tony]

Very eccentric room that we have over there on that side.

[Dave Damashek]

I think it's outrageous. I think it's outrageous that you stand here and look a gift horse, a literal gift horse in the mouth and say, tuna toasted.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm a gift horse.

[Dave Damashek]

Peculiar. That's your response. Peculiar. Not, thank you, sir.

[Tony]

It was thank you. I was. It was a nice gesture. And I ate the sandwich.

[Producer Mike Ryan]

Then I took a picture of it and put it in the group chat.

[Dave Damashek]

And now for dessert. Now for dessert, you're trying to serve him some humble pie, or I don't know what you're trying to give them. You're trying to. You're trying to turn them into a punchline. BBM for being a good person.

[Tony]

I was like, hey, look at this.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bbm.

[Dave Damashek]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Here's the kicker. We had a great time, okay? We had a great time. I took him to Pearl Jam. I made him say. I made him a sandwich on our car right there. I think we probably split the hotel. I can't imagine that I paid for that whole thing, but we had a great time.

[Tony]

It was.

[Dan LeBatard]

And when. When we get back.

[Dave Damashek]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're kids back then. You have your own room.

[Tony]

We worked in radio?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Dave Damashek]

Okay.

[Tony]

Years ago.

[Dave Damashek]

Okay, okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was.

[Tony]

What are you talking about?

[Dan LeBatard]

It was one bit.

[Dave Damashek]

Right now.

[Tony]

PD kept stealing my invoices.

[Dave Damashek]

Current Dave does not share a hotel room with anybody.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, of course.

[Tony]

Because of all the years you had a crash on someone else's, like, rug.

[Dan LeBatard]

We were so young and poor.

[Dave Damashek]

Okay. I forgot when. When what period of time?

[Tony]

You forget radio.

[Dan LeBatard]

We had a great time, and I figured, you know what my thank you will be? Maybe the next day on the very popular Dan LeBatard show with Stu Gotz. Maybe they'll have a conversation about that nice Jewish boy, Jonathan Zaslow, who took Sandwich Talk, who took our producer, Mike Ryan, to a Pearl Jam show. And. And not just that. They had second row on the floor.

[Tony]

I didn't know where you were going.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

What a mess. What a great time. Instead, I turn on the radio and the conversation is how when you take a car ride with Zaslow, he makes tuna sandwiches for everyone.

[Dave Damashek]

Turned you into some kind of an ass.

[Tony]

Well, that's because I bbmed Hawk a photo of the sandwich. And he's like, this is strange. I'm like, yeah, bit peculiar.

[Dave Damashek]

You gave him a nice pat on the back. And what did he say? He accused you of putting a knife into his back. It's outrageous.

[Tony]

I will, though. I will say, though, I like Pearl Jam because of Zach. I wasn't a Pearl Jam guy. He knew that. But he knew I'd be like, a good hang for a concert. He introduced me to Pearl Jam and Kings of Leon, who I wasn't up on at the time. I'm grateful for that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Kings of Leon, Is that.

[Tony]

Yes, actually. Yeah, that's the one. They sound just like that.