The Big Suey: What Are You, a Child? (feat. Jessica Smetana)

Summary

Summary of "The Big Suey: What Are You, a Child?" (feat. Jessica Smetana) The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: June 12, 2025

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1. NBA Playoffs Showdown: Pacers vs. Thunder

The episode kicks off with an in-depth analysis of the ongoing NBA playoff series between the Indiana Pacers and the Oklahoma City Thunder. Dan LeBatard expresses surprise at the Pacers' defensive prowess, noting their historical significance in the series.

• Dan LeBatard [00:35]: "They'd be the first champions in NBA history that weren't a top three seed or the defending champs."

The discussion highlights the Thunder's offensive challenges, particularly their assist-to-turnover ratio, which has been a point of contention throughout the season.

• Mike Ryan [01:45]: "Assist to turnover, like. And that's their worst of the season."

Jeremy Tache emphasizes the Thunder's difficulty in maintaining control during critical game moments, especially when facing Indiana's perimeter defense.

• Jeremy Tache [02:00]: "They haven't let Oklahoma City force turnovers themselves and get out on the run to be able to get their offense going."

2. Knicks’ Coaching Crisis and Management Woes

Transitioning to the New York Knicks, the conversation delves into the team's tumultuous coaching search and the broader implications of management decisions.

• Dan LeBatard [04:04]: "The Knicks have a genuine mess in their coaching search like it is. It is a public apocalypse, this story."

Dominique Foxworth criticizes the Knicks' handling of the situation, suggesting that owner James Dolan's interference has exacerbated the problem.

• Dominique Foxworth [05:53]: "This seems like James Dolan meddling."

The panel debates potential coaching candidates, with humorous banter about Chris Paul's hypothetical coaching stint.

• Dan LeBatard [06:36]: "Chris Paul is not qualified for that job."

3. Roy Bellamy's Shaved Beard: A Playoff Statement

A humorous segment focuses on Roy Bellamy's decision to shave his playoff beard, sparking playful jabs and debating whether it breaks traditional sports superstitions.

• Dan LeBatard [09:03]: "Roy is against superstition. He has shaved his playoff beard during the playoffs and during a historic Panther run. What do you make of the idea that Roy has blasphemed against all superstition?"

Dominique defends Roy's choice, emphasizing individual autonomy over superstitious practices.

• Dominique Foxworth [10:11]: "Roy can do whatever Roy wants to do. ... he should do that."

4. Navigating the NIL Landscape and NCAA Settlement

The conversation shifts to the evolving landscape of Name, Image, and Likeness (NIL) rights and the recent NCAA settlement, with Jessica Smetana providing expert insights.

• Dominique Foxworth [17:08]: "The NCAA House settlement is finally here, with $2.8 billion for former athletes and new frameworks for future NIL deals."

Jessica raises concerns about enforcement and the potential for under-the-table arrangements despite the new regulations.

• Dominique Foxworth [20:12]: "If I'm a college football program, I'm probably going to be like, 'Don't you know, here's NIL money?' ... why not just pay players under the table again?"

Jon Weiner adds a critical perspective on the NCAA's strategies and the potential for private equity influence in college sports.

• Jon Weiner [21:52]: "The NCAA has got a pretty sweet deal. Lose all the cases in court, never win one."

5. Formula One vs. Indy 500: Scheduling Conflicts

A debate ensues over Formula One's decision to schedule the Canadian Grand Prix concurrently with the iconic Indy 500, raising concerns about viewership and fan overlap.

• Dan LeBatard [24:34]: "Why would F1 schedule the Canadian Grand Prix on the same weekend as the Indy 500? This seems like a huge mistake."

Dominique suggests logistical reasons, such as reducing transatlantic travel, but acknowledges the potential impact on North American viewership.

• Dominique Foxworth [25:33]: "I think the reason is traveling... they are trying to cut down on so many transatlantic flights."

6. The Great Popsicle Debate: Coleslaw Edition

Injecting humor into the episode, the panel explores the concept of unconventional popsicle flavors, ultimately landing on the unanimously dreaded coleslaw popsicle.

• Dominique Foxworth [31:58]: "It was coleslaw. It was a coleslaw popsicle. Cabbage and mayonnaise. That's unpleasant."

Jon Weiner and Dan LeBatard engage in light-hearted banter, agreeing on the unappetizing nature of certain frozen foods.

• Dan LeBatard [32:15]: "It's awful."

7. Soups: To Be Served Warm or Embraced Cold?

The final segment debates whether soups must be consumed warm, with Dan advocating traditional perceptions and others showcasing chilled varieties like gazpacho.

• Dan LeBatard [35:27]: "A soup has to be warm. I don't think I'm in the minority in having that opinion."

Dominique counters by presenting a list of chilled soups, challenging the conventional notion.

• Dominique Foxworth [33:52]: "Chilled avocado soup with crab... Chilled strawberry and tomato gazpacho."

The panel humorously navigates the heated (and cold) debate, reinforcing the diversity of culinary preferences.

• Dan LeBatard [36:24]: "I only want to have soup. Soup warm."

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Notable Quotes:

• Dan LeBatard [00:35]: "They'd be the first champions in NBA history that weren't a top three seed or the defending champs."

• Dominique Foxworth [05:53]: "This seems like James Dolan meddling."

• Dominique Foxworth [10:11]: "Roy can do whatever Roy wants to do. ... he should do that."

• Dominique Foxworth [17:08]: "The NCAA House settlement is finally here, with $2.8 billion for former athletes and new frameworks for future NIL deals."

• Dan LeBatard [24:34]: "Why would F1 schedule the Canadian Grand Prix on the same weekend as the Indy 500? This seems like a huge mistake."

• Dominique Foxworth [31:58]: "It was coleslaw. It was a coleslaw popsicle. Cabbage and mayonnaise. That's unpleasant."

• Dan LeBatard [35:27]: "A soup has to be warm. I don't think I'm in the minority in having that opinion."

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This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully blends serious sports analysis with light-hearted banter, offering listeners a comprehensive look at current NBA playoff dynamics, college sports' evolving business models, and quirky culinary debates. Whether you're a hardcore sports enthusiast or someone looking for engaging pop-culture discussions, this episode delivers a well-rounded and entertaining experience.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

Welcome to the Big Sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show, the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[Jon Weiner]

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown of yours.

[Dan LeBatard]

I probably have been a bit negligent in not talking more because we spent four hours talking about it last night. Sort of. Kind of. But the Pacers are up to one. They've only led for 11% of the time in the series, like 20 minutes. They'd be the first champions in NBA history that weren't a top three seed or the defending champs. The Thunder had 16 assists, 19 turnovers. This is a historically great team. Assist to turnover, like. And that's their worst of the season. Like, it's the second time all year they have failed to have more assists than turnovers in a game. And that was done to them. By the way, that's Indiana defense. Like, what Nemha. I don't know what we were talking about all season, but it wasn't, hey, what are Nemhardt and Neesmith going to do to the MVP when he needs to be bothered a little bit? And you have perimeter defense that is like, oh, we weren't talking about that much at all. We were saying, Lou Dort does that stuff. But we weren't talking about Indiana's perimeter players that aren't Halliburton bothering the holy hell out of the MVP of the league who can go 30 points every time, no problem. Until, oh, these guys bother everyone. These guys. These perimeter defenders bother all players of all sizes.

[Mike Ryan]

The Thunder made one field goal in the last five minutes and 57 seconds of that game, and it wasn't like they were missing good shots. This is a complete. Like, this is a false narrative that Indiana was some finesse team. The defense they play is, like, absolutely on par with the Thunder defense, which is historic by every metric.

[Jeremy Tache]

Well, and what's crazy about that is it's in large part because they haven't let Oklahoma City force turnovers themselves and get out on the run to be able to get their offense going. So you're defending them in the half court late in games and Close games. That's not a situation that Oklahoma City has been in a lot this season. And when no one else can score, Shane needs to be able to take over, get to the line. That's what you've seen him do all the time. But in the final stretch of that game, he was one of two from the field after Tyrese Halliburton came back in with 650 to go, and they ran away with it after it was a tie game. So it's unbelievably impressive their ability to just exchange anybody for each other and attack the same way.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was startled, and I don't know how sports shocks come to you, but I was startled by OKC being manhandled physically. I just wasn't expecting to see that. It's not something I've seen a lot of this season. And those. I mean, Nemhardt looks small to me. It doesn't seem to me that Nemhard should be that kind of perimeter defender. He looks. He doesn't. He doesn't look to me like Dort. He doesn't look to me like Nismit.

[Jon Weiner]

Well, you know, NBA casual over here that doesn't watch a regular season. Rick Carlisle changed his defense. The swarming double teams, the traps. I thought this guy was his own guy. I mean, it's what the way that this defense swarmed ball handlers for okc. It seems like OKC was wholly unprepared for it last night. And no ball movement because it's like, what is this where we're up? They're using the out of bounds to force turnovers and to get OKC out of their game. It's been very effective, and you got to wonder if they have an answer for it.

[Dan LeBatard]

We spent a lot of time last night during the Pacers game talking about the Knicks. Sam Morrell was Boyco. The Pacers games. And Mero was saying that they think that the Pistons. The Knicks think the Pistons are the best team they face.

[Jessica]

Didn't they say the magic, too? They were saying some crazy shit.

[Jon Weiner]

I appreciated the hating ass haters.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so the Pacers are in. The Pacers are in the championship round. But we spent some time talking about the Knicks. And the Knicks have a genuine mess in their coaching search like it is. It is a public apocalypse, this story.

[Mike Ryan]

The vibes of that team going from the happiest bing bongs to the saddest bing bongs. This is about as quick as I've ever seen a flip. You have articles coming out 45 minutes after they get eliminated eviscerating towns in Thibodeau. Thibodeau gets fired. Sam Emeco reports that people are actually now mad at Rick Brunson, and they have reached out to five coaches. None of them have even gotten permission to talk to them. Quinn Snyder, IME Udoka, Billy Donovan, Chris Finch, and Jason Kidd. I feel like we're careening towards something where Chris Paul is the coach of the Knicks, which is a legitimate thing that people are starting to ban.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, well, this we bring in our favorite New York correspondent now to talk about this and other things because. And I, by the way, don't let me get out of here today without sort of annoying Jessica with Mike going back to what Jeremy's atrocious Heat take was, because I don't want to leave that unargued. I'd like Jessica to hear whatever final thoughts you guys have on the Heat season here, because I know she misses that. But welcome into Knicks talk. Jessica, what kind of, what kind of suffering is it right now in New York to be a Knicks fan?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Well, first, I want to say the Pacers need better branding on their defense. If we had something like the Deutscher Chamber for the Pacers, I think we would be giving them more respect. Second, I feel like this validates my we'll see take last, last week, I should say of the Knicks firing Tibbs, because if it was we'll see, we don't have a next guy up then, ooh, maybe that wasn't the best choice. And this seems like James Dolan meddling.

[Dan LeBatard]

How about that one? What she's saying right there like that there's no conclusion to be drawn here other than, hey, look, the Knicks were well managed for a while there, and then they botched this one. They botched this one because the owner came in, swooped in and there wasn't a plan. It's just get rid of this guy, the best guy we've had since Pat Riley.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I wish Stu Gotz was here so we could be like, hey, so what happened to that Danny Hurley take last week? Haven't seen his name in this yet.

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, he's going to pop up. His agent's going to come around trying to get him a raise. He's, this is a. Yeah, this is a wonderful.

[Jessica]

Or Dan Hurley, both.

[Jon Weiner]

But this is a perfect opportunity for Dan Hurley to pop up like, okay, looks like you got a mess over there. Here's a big, sexy name. Let me get a raise over at UConn because I don't want to actually Leave.

[Dan LeBatard]

Chris Paul, Charlie.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, that's inspired.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

I think you could get higher.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's the only sport that I think where that feels like, I guess, baseball maybe also, but it doesn't feel as outrageous like a guy walking off of the football field right into a head coaching job. Feels like an insanity to me, but.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it does. No, wait a minute.

[Roy Bellamy]

Basketball player, coach.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. So help. You guys are all going to have to help me with this one, because, no, Chris Paul is not qualified for that job. No, I understand that we're doing this differently now. Where.

[Roy Bellamy]

Hold on. He's standing a lot like somebody else. I know.

[Jon Weiner]

The fake Dan. Charlie's fake Dan. Because I was like once he said, help me out with this one. I'm like, okay, write that one down. He does it a lot.

[Dominique Foxworth]

You guys can't do. The vibes were really off in that first segment. It was. It was weird. Okay, we need to reset the vibes. I'm here to reset the thank you for agreeing with me started out. No, you're a hundred percent why the vibes were so bad. You are so mean to Roy. And if I were there, She's a union.

[Jon Weiner]

Right.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I would grab you by the shoulders and shake you. Yeah, because that was uncalled for. Thanks for your welcome to vote in whatever Professional Hockey association part of.

[Dan LeBatard]

He doesn't have to be.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He doesn't have to write for an outlet full time. I'll give Roy participation.

[Jon Weiner]

Participation trophy. Earned, not given. Earned, not given.

[Roy Bellamy]

Jessica, I'm glad you brought this back. I had a question that I wanted to ask Mike that I didn't get a chance to ask earlier because we got off of it. But Roy can be in a writer's association because he wrote one column. Can you be a Golden Cane if you ain't never caned one cane?

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, no.

[Jon Weiner]

I don't even understand.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, he's coming to your most sensitive spot.

[Jon Weiner]

You like it, Jess, you like the question. And also, you changed history because he became a writer before he actually wrote, which was a proper question to ask.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But he did write tweets. We all agree on that.

[Jon Weiner]

Well, then I'm a writer, too. Okay, cool. And then you're a writer. I'm a writer. You're a writer.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're all get.

[Jon Weiner]

You get a writer, you get a writer, you get a writer. Can I add something to this?

[Jessica]

No, no, no, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Not yet.

[Roy Bellamy]

Roy, I'm sorry. We are not gonna let Mike get away without speaking for his Canaan.

[Jon Weiner]

Okay, okay. I'm just saying, I covered the team since 2016 as a credentialed media member.

[Dan LeBatard]

Rah ta ta ta.

[Jeremy Tache]

You heard it.

[Jon Weiner]

You heard it. Rata ta ta. He wasn't writing. He wasn't writing.

[Roy Bellamy]

See, Roy wasn't writing. I teach you this trick. You just gotta hit a rap ad lib after you dunk on somebody.

[Jon Weiner]

Don't speak for Roy. Okay, how about you don't speak for Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

Roy.

[Jon Weiner]

How about you don't speak for Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

So next time. I've been covering this when I was.

[Jon Weiner]

A member of the Screen Actors Guild, when I was a member of sag, Okay, I didn't.

[Dan LeBatard]

Come on.

[Jon Weiner]

I didn't start acting after I got the membership. I had to act a little bit.

[Roy Bellamy]

We still ain't talking.

[Jon Weiner]

And then became a screener.

[Jessica]

I feel like Mike's helping still have not addressed Jessica.

[Jon Weiner]

I'm very rude of you to speak for Roy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm going to have to side with Jessica on.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, no shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

You took Roy's ability to vote. We all saw it. We all saw what happened.

[Jon Weiner]

Everyone here is taking a really difficult stance. I really appreciate it, guys.

[Roy Bellamy]

Jessica, I miss you.

[Jon Weiner]

This is the first day that I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

So, Jessica, can you make a ruling on Roy's clean shaven face during the playoffs? Wherever impartiality resides, where. Wherever it is that hygiene exists, Roy is against superstition. He is doing something that is as sacrilegious as touching the cup the way that Edmonton did before this series. He has shaved his playoff beard during the playoffs and during a historic Panther run. What do you make of the idea that Roy has blasphemed against all superstition?

[Dominique Foxworth]

I mean, I think Roy can do whatever Roy wants to do. And you all need to stop telling Roy what he can and cannot do because I don't like the way that this is coming off right now. Roy is a grown ass man and if he gets allowed to vote in some Pro Hockey Writers association organization, he should do that. And everyone should keep their opinions to themselves.

[Roy Bellamy]

Mike.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike clearly doesn't think he should vote at all.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, always keeping me on my heels. Just appreciate that.

[Dominique Foxworth]

And while I'm pissed off, give me your stupid thing. Jeremy, what is your heat thing?

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, his take that pissed us off. We had to remind him of it because he got caught up in the air. Remember when he got jealous of the Panthers and said, we all jumped ship? Well, you did. We didn't jump ship.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah. The moment it got hard, it was all, we're only Panthers fans. We're gonna throw all of our Energy into this. We're not gonna watch regular season basketball.

[Jon Weiner]

See what I mean?

[Dominique Foxworth]

The franchises failed them.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're so bored. I'm a little worried about everything over here in this.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Okay. The vibes are still bad, Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, help me with this. So I need culture change around here. I asked Dominique for help with it. At the moment, what I don't need to happen is for Jeremy and Mike to scream at each other about the Heat because Mike's upset about being called a RA sister. Didn't want Roy to vote in the first hour.

[Jon Weiner]

No, I'm cool with that. I'm going to have to get Jesse up in here, man. We're going to march on him.

[Dan LeBatard]

But. But you did look at Jeremy and all of that hostility and you said, you're atrocious. He'd take. And when I looked at Jeremy.

[Jon Weiner]

Which one?

[Dan LeBatard]

What? Yes. This is what. This is the delight that swept over me as I looked at Jeremy there and I saw in his face that could be any number of things.

[Jon Weiner]

It's everything I've said to him for.

[Jessica]

Two and a half years going through the Rolodex.

[Jon Weiner]

The best part was Jeremy was like, which one of my awful.

[Dan LeBatard]

And so Jessica, for four years, was stuck between whatever that is for two and a half years.

[Jeremy Tache]

I was still right about the power of friendship thing. That's what the Pacers said. Work for them.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so.

[Dominique Foxworth]

But not. It didn't work for the Heat. And your take was that the power of friendship was going to spur the Miami Heat to a. I don't know, the playoffs or something. But then, yeah, I did.

[Jeremy Tache]

Yeah. Yeah. I said before the season that Jimmy Butler was in a good place. That's on me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, what is. What is his atrocious Heat take Mike, because you just screamed at each other.

[Jon Weiner]

He was, like, reveling in the Panthers running into a difficult time because we all jumped ship and quit on the Miami Heat. Let me. Let me get one thing perfectly straight here. I've been keeping it real about the Miami Heat. Just because I've been keeping it real about the Miami Heat and they decided to acquire Terry Rozier doesn't mean I quit on them. They quit on me. They quit on culture. They quit on everything that they put on the inside of that paint on that court. They had a superstar take their franchise hostage and Pat Riley. The age of Joe Biden make things worse and diminish an asset when his job is to increase the value of that asset and maximize the return the defense rest. Show me your papers.

[Jeremy Tache]

So, yeah, this Is kind of what I was talking about.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, no, that's old ass Joe Biden not looking so bad right now either, huh?

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. All right, all right, let's you guys, with this ageism. I want to go back to last night, a couple of clips from last night, because my father was translating reggaeton lyrics. And I just want to go to this very quickly because I believe that if my father showed up at a soccer game this weekend in Miami, he would be asked to show his papers because he doesn't necessarily look like he's from this country and he doesn't sound like he's from this country. And while we're joking about show me your papers like, this is a legitimate thing.

[Jon Weiner]

Right? But he's an American. He's got nothing to worry about. They got that express lane for people that are just American.

[Dan LeBatard]

But we're going to now just racially profile with state militia outside of soccer game, right? That we're warning people that that is what's headed to sports here as we try to keep politics out of games. It's gonna be, hey, the same stadium where you've seen the video of brown people climbing through the stadium architecture and tunnels in the roofs and air conditioning.

[Jon Weiner]

You know who's actually happy about this is the Hard Rock Stadium. Security details like, okay, anything goes sideways here, it's on the administration, Homeland Security, and ice.

[Jeremy Tache]

That overhead visual of seeing people being separated into lines as they march through armed security guards is gonna be something to behold.

[Jon Weiner]

This is not your country. And a lot of people that are happy about what's going on that voted for it. It's gonna turn once someone asks them for their papers and makes their relationship with sports wholly different than it's ever been before.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's laugh at my father, shall we?

[Jon Weiner]

I will let your hair lose.

[Dan LeBatard]

Take off your shirt, though. Oh, you're also. Your panties. No, it's not the panties. No, no, no, no, no, no. That's incorrect. That is not correct.

[Jon Weiner]

No, it's a two for one there, Daniel, come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

No.

[Jon Weiner]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't really take off his legs. That is my 80. That is the age of Joe Biden. And he turned pantalones, clearly the word for pants in Spanish, into panties for some reason.

[Jessica]

Tomato, tomato.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not the same thing.

[Jon Weiner]

Tomato, potato.

[Dan LeBatard]

But it feels like ageism to me to be doing what you just did. The age of Joe Biden. You want to apologize for that?

[Jon Weiner]

He's older. He's older and he's. He's doing things that feel like they're from a bygone era, and a lot of people say Pat Riley has the game passed him by. I'm not in that camp, but I would say what happened with Jimmy Butler is a pretty solid example, if you wanted to make that argument. Tell me when I'm telling a lie.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jeremy, your atrocious take. You want to defend any of the others? Like, you just seem defeated.

[Jeremy Tache]

I don't. I don't. I mean, as much as I want to, you know, have this spark with Mike and feud over these things at this point. I mean, I'm in my 30s. I don't need this anymore. Not. Not that type of smoke. It's okay. We can. We can agree to disagree. I got caught up in the air, and I apologize for saying that. I was enjoying watching the Florida Panthers struggle a bit, because you know what? I love the team from Broward county that actually represents my county. And it's. It's beautiful to have a team like that, have success.

[Jon Weiner]

That's mighty big of you. I love it when someone admits defeating. Thank you, Don LeBatard. I don't think I ever got that.

[Dan LeBatard]

Many roses in my whole life.

[Jon Weiner]

Stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Certainly not from your lovely grandfather.

[Dominique Foxworth]

God, may a soul rest in peace.

[Jon Weiner]

This is the Don Levatar show with the stugats.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jessica, I was wondering if you could get us caught up, please, because I. I don't have enough expertise in everything that's happening in the business of nil and where it is that leaders in that sport are stumbling around trying to make rules as we go, create a system as we go. The NCAA House settlement. Can you walk me through some of the particulars here of what we're headed toward? Because I think you, Lucy, and Mike have done a good job sort of exploring the business of this, which has confounded me as it's changed over the last five years.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah. So this is this the settlement that has been expected to come down through the courts for, like, the last year. So it's the, you know, $20 million that schools are not going to be able to pay players directly through the athletic departments. And I'm glad you brought up the Golden Canes, Dominique, because one of the things that I've been thinking now that this house settlement has finally come through, so one of the aspects of this is, you know, all the back pay. That's sort of what the settlement's for. It's like $2.8 billion for former athletes and then the frameworks being set up for the future and how these payments are going to Be split. One of the things is that they're setting up this, you know, NIL Clearinghouse. Nil Go is going to be the name of the software and I guess Deloitte is overseeing the approval of NIL deals now, because what, what the schools don't want, so they claim, is these NL collectives to essentially be paying for play, which is what's been happening over the last three years. And obviously there's like a lot of gray area between what's pay for play and what is, you know, a player's market value once they go to a school and become a famous person on that campus or in that community, etc. So this nil clearinghouse will be dictating deals over $600, whether or not they'll pass. And so my question through all this, one, the big question is like, what does this mean for Title nine? And that hasn't really been addressed yet. That'll probably come through lawsuits that I assume will be filed in the future. But the second thing is, like, if now there's this clearinghouse for big nil deals, why not just pay players under the table again? Why not just bring back the bag men? Why, why wouldn't I just Venmo or zell, Jeremiah love 50 grand and not even pretend to do the like, legitimize NIL Collective thing anymore? Like, I don't really see why cheating isn't all the way back now. But I guess, Mike, as a, as a golden cane, you can probably tell us a little bit about maybe some of your fears of enforcement, because there is going to be this college sports commission that is allegedly going to be investigating these things. It just seems like, I don't know, it seems like this hasn't been tested yet. So if I'm a college football program, I'm probably going to be like, like, don't you know, here's nil money? Or I'm not even gonna say like, what this payment's for. Just like, accept this payment and you're on our team now.

[Jon Weiner]

Well, the good news is, is the people in charge in terms of enforcing this are gonna be the SEC in the Big Ten. So we can trust them and their judgment. The NCAA has got a pretty sweet deal. Lose all the cases in court, never win one. Get full autonomy and don't even actually have to enforce your rules. Just sit back and get the revenue. All while this is passed through the Senate and you're granted full autonomy so no one can actually challenge you in courts. And despite this being illegal, when does that matter right now over the last few months. So they're gonna get their way. Donald Trump was seen golfing with Notre Dame's athletic director, which I'm curious what his angle was on it. And Greg Sankey, obviously, we know what he's been pushing for. So it'll be. It'll be curious. I don't know if it's going to be around for long. I think this is all headed towards super league. And unfortunately, the only way that you get any kind of fairness here would be through something that's collectively bargained. There isn't a union for student athletes. And look at how difficult it is for the NFL to keep a work stoppage because you have guys coming in making less money than everybody else. You don't have generational wealth for college athletes. If you decide to threaten the season for revenue generators, you've got zero money now. People will cave and crack. And you don't just worry about the football players or the basketball players. You got golfers, you got rowers. So the NCAA was very smart in to get a former politician to just politic his way to a dub. When they've been handed l after l after l, hopefully college football gets siloed off. I think we're headed towards private equity anyways, and then you could probably have a real collective bargaining agreement at least with football players.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, put it on the poll at Lebatard show. Are you exc that college football is headed toward private equity?

[Jon Weiner]

They've been. Dude, private equity firms have been talking to these programs for, like, five years.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's just. I mean, come on. Come on. Yes. Okay. But it's just funny to see it that professionalized where, oh, look, there's so much money and no rules. Let's go feed. Let's go feed there. Like, it's not funny, but it is. You mentioned Trump. Wasn't he at a play recently near you, Jessica?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Wasn't play. Shame on you. He was at Les Mis, Dan. And I just. I mean, I don't want to make light of anything that this administration is doing because it's horrifying, but he was asked at the Kennedy center if he was more of a Javert or a Valjean. And Donald Trump was like, ooh, that's a good question. I don't know. And he didn't answer because he claims that he's seen Les Mis before, but he obviously hasn't because it's the easiest question in the world. I guess, if you're, like, someone who actually still is pretending to be a Good guy. Because Javert is like the obsessed with this idea of like absolute justice. And he's this sadistic police inspector who's hell bent on bringing Valjean back to prison for violating his parole even though all Valjean did was steal a loaf of bread. Dan. For his. His starving sister and her children. And then served 20 years in prison and then went on to change his identity and live a life where he's seeking forgiveness and redemption through helping this young girl Cosette, raising her after her mother Fantine died after Valjean, as the mayor of the town accidentally allowed her to be fired from her job by the horrible fore. I mean, it's not a difficult question, right? It's not difficult who you want to at least pretend like you are. If you're a Valjean or a Javert, that shouldn't be hard to answer.

[Roy Bellamy]

I never seen it before. That was riveting.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, but don't have to anymore. I was backpedaling ever since her. You know, it felt like rage to me on me merely saying that was a play. Like I felt. I felt like I'd offended her.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Dan. It's lame. It is. It's. It's like one of the most famous musicals of all time. Which by the way is based on the Victor Hugo novel about not the French Revolution, which is a common misconception. It's actually about the Paris uprising in 1838, which was a group of people who. Working class people who were upset with the monarchy and upset with inequality and injustice and the tit. I mean not the titular song, but like the crescendoing song of the musical which is reprised at the end is do you hear the people sing? And. And our president watched that last night.

[Jeremy Tache]

Out here taking notes.

[Jon Weiner]

Do you think he watched or did he just stare off into the distance waiting for someone to mention his name?

[Dan LeBatard]

Damn.

[Jon Weiner]

That was probably it. Jess, I do have a question about Formula one because I got very offended at something that is being bannied about with Formula One. And I hope I have buy in from you. The IndyCar series has basically one race here that everybody pays attention to. It is America's race. It is the Indy 500. And I love how Formula One approached it recently. Where you have Monaco in the morning, the Indy 500 gets the biggest window in the afternoon, and then NASCAR can have theirs at night. But now the new calendar says they're going to have the Canadian Grand Prix the same weekend as the Indy 500. And correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps the same day even so why would they do this? This is dumb. And they are not top dog in this country. I understand globally, they are forced to, but the TV ratings for Formula One compared to what the Indy 500 pools in are relatively putrid. Why would they do this? This seems like a huge mistake on their part.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yeah, I think the reason is traveling, because F1 goes from Miami to Monaco and then back to North America for Canada, I believe. So. I think this was just because they are trying to cut down on, like, so many transatlantic flights. I don't know, Mike. I mean, the other reason could be that, like, a lot, you know, motorsport media have to choose between covering, like, international media have to choose between covering Indy 500 or Monaco, which is, like, the crown jewel of the F1 calendar, even though it's not the most important race from a racing perspective. But I don't know. I mean, the long story short is, like, the F1 calendar just keeps getting longer and they keep expanding to different continents in different parts of the world. And so the travel is extremely grueling. So I assume making a calendar that works for all the teams and is at least a little bit cost efficient is. Is probably top of mind. But also, they want to keep doing more raises to make more money, so I don't think it's the biggest concern.

[Jon Weiner]

It is a track that has been covered in snow before in May as well, so that's also something to consider.

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike, you were so much more reasonable saying this to Jessica than you were the last time you delivered this opinion where you were threatening F1 and you were saying, tread lightly, F1.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

How dare you.

[Jon Weiner]

That was a great clip yesterday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, but you were in rage.

[Jon Weiner]

It.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, you know, I'm not asking you to rehash it, but you just presented this much more reasonably to Jessica than you did yesterday when you were ranting and railing all over the place over a new leaf.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I think he's a little sheepish because I called him out for calling out Roy and now he's.

[Jon Weiner]

No one likes your trash ass sport. All right? It's fourth in ratings. You don't even match the Xfinity series. In fact, you've been outrated by the Craftsman Truck Series semi regularly. All right? Stay out of North America, Jacques.

[Dominique Foxworth]

I'm not offended. And I'm Valjean, by the way. If I had to be Valjean or.

[Jon Weiner]

Javert, obviously I was just doing a French Canadian version of Jack because I did Jack twice in the clip. I'm like, I should have done Jacques.

[Dan LeBatard]

It would have been funnier. But you, also, unhinged, yelled. You called one of the tournaments the cousin bleeper 500 or whatever you did, because you were just crazed. You were insane.

[Jon Weiner]

Great clip yesterday. Take notes. He's trying to make me do it again.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I'm not. I don't know. I'm not trying to get you to do it again. I don't. I don't have any interest in seeing him anymore. This. This hockey creature at the end of a finals run of three years of obnoxious when he cares about him more than the heat and he's just running on a flume of adrenaline and cocaine and how. However good it feels to go straight from. And Jeremy, you make fun of the stopped at adrenaline.

[Jon Weiner]

No, no, I've never done cocaine.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but the cocaine of South Florida sports the last five years, seven years, where you could just jump from the heat over the Panthers and escape all the flames from the heat, leave Jeremy in your wake, charred.

[Jon Weiner]

Three years ago, they were both eight seeds in the final. I was managing both. All right. I did. They left. I would have been there if they were there. They drew first blood. They brought in Terry Rozier.

[Jeremy Tache]

That's how fandom works.

[Jon Weiner]

I stuck to my guns. I said, you acquire Terry Rozier. I'm out. Have I been back? Nope.

[Roy Bellamy]

On the list of metaphors, is it okay to say someone is met? Because you essentially tried to say that you are accusing Mike of being on metaphorical cocaine. I feel like if you're gonna metaphorical something, you can't coke, my man.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you gotta, like.

[Jon Weiner]

I don't do cocaine. I've never done it. Now, if it were in an edible form, perhaps I would.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, that's a big hurdle. Like, sniffing something is like injecting and sniffing. Huge drug hurdles.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put it on the poll at LeBatard show. Would you more readily do edible cocaine? Oh, God.

[Jessica]

We could probably leave that one off.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Can I ask a food question to the group?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, of course.

[Dominique Foxworth]

So people send me recipes all the time because they know that I like to bake. And someone sent me one of the most offensive things that I've ever seen probably in my life the other day. And I'll. I'll say this. It was. Was a food in popsicle form, and I think probably one of the worst foods you could put in popsicle form. And I am struggling to think of another food that would be worse as a Popsicle.

[Dan LeBatard]

Really?

[Dominique Foxworth]

That. That is a cold food, I think. Yeah, you can guess. But, like, food I don't think counts. Lasagna no, like hot food doesn't make sense. It's something that you would eat cold that you would make into a popsicle because obviously like baked beans. Popsicles. Yeah. That's disgusting. Like we all agree. But no, it's a cold food that's like in popsicle form for a cookout. Someone sent this to me.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so let's discuss this. And another thing, because I need to get a verdict from you on a couple of things. Gazpacho. Is that a soup? Is it?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Yes. I love gazpacho. It's delicious.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, so. Okay, so is it a soup? Is the question.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Let's see if it's in my soup book.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. Okay. Oh, wow. That's a big ass book. Prop comic.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Steve Martin also.

[Dan LeBatard]

So wait a minute. So you have a soup book?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Sweeney Todd Playbill in the soup book.

[Dan LeBatard]

W. We. We were.

[Jon Weiner]

The shave of the face, the trim of the beard.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Like Roy get the reference.

[Roy Bellamy]

But I, but it's still fun.

[Jon Weiner]

I can't believe. Yeah, you can't, you can't go clean shave it. You can't shave at a face during the, the Stanley cup final.

[Jessica]

I bet Roy, I bet Roy did it and then was like he's starting and now he has and now he's just doubling down. Cuz that's Roy of the beard.

[Roy Bellamy]

Top five soups, Top five plays.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it's. I don't want top five soups. I just, I thought, I thought I was in the majority and I thought the voting came back to endorse me and support me. A soup has to be warm.

[Dominique Foxworth]

What do you like, child? What do you mean a soup has to be warm?

[Dan LeBatard]

A soup. When I think of soup, it is something that has to be consumed warm. And I don't think I'm in the minority in having that opinion.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Ooh, what about this? Basil vichy.

[Jessica]

So an olive popsicle would be pretty terrible.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Oh, that's gross. But what if it's like a dirty martini popsicle? That would be delicious. But you can't freeze vodka, so that wouldn't work.

[Dan LeBatard]

Your choices have been very poor so far. The olive and the lasagna. I chose tripe, a fish.

[Jon Weiner]

I see you minestrone.

[Dominique Foxworth]

It can't be something warm. It has to be deli meat. I think gazpacho popsicle actually will be kind of good as I think about it.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, I kind of think I'm realizing.

[Jon Weiner]

You broccoli deli meat's a good one actually.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Jeremy, that cold cut turkey popsicle, your best comment of the day okay, I'll just tell you guys what it was. It was coleslaw. It was a coleslaw popsicle, Cabbage and mayonnaise.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. That's unpleasant.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Should I make it?

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, you gotta make it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you want any part of. I was asking people the other day, I don't know whether you would want the challenge of this because baking isn't the same. But I'd like Greg Cody to lose another one of these. He's lost all of his challenges, all of his cook offs. But I believe he might be able to win one with this sausage and lentil soup of his. Does anyone around here want to challenge him? Roy, I thought you might be interested. He's done nothing but lose these food competitions. Is anyone that want any part of this?

[Jon Weiner]

I'll challenge his soup. I can make a good soup.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're going to challenge him?

[Jon Weiner]

Was that supposed to.

[Jessica]

Well, that was very dismissive.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, I just. He's never really.

[Jon Weiner]

You're going to show me your papers?

[Roy Bellamy]

Feels like it. It also feels like Dan is asking gazpacho show him his papers.

[Jon Weiner]

It is.

[Roy Bellamy]

It kind of feels like you want gazpacho out of the soups.

[Jon Weiner]

You know what, never mind. I don't want to partake in your little soup thing. I was yes. Anding.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he was like you.

[Jessica]

That reaction you had to Mike was odd.

[Jon Weiner]

You don't think I make a soup, pal?

[Dan LeBatard]

I didn't think. Look, Greg Cody's sausage and lentil soup is well made by somebody who does have cooking ability. He's lost all his cooking challenges, but I believe he cooks this better than anyone. And you've never once mentioned to anyone I can remember that you like cooking.

[Jon Weiner]

If you follow me on social media, I'm the king of soup.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't follow you on social.

[Dominique Foxworth]

He's big on. He's big on soups. I also. I found the chilled soup section of the soup book finally. I thought it would be in the front.

[Jeremy Tache]

Give us all the chilled soups.

[Jessica]

Let's prove Dan wrong.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Okay, so the first one that I see here is gazpacho with parsley oil. Sounds delicious.

[Jessica]

Trolling, Dan.

[Dominique Foxworth]

No, but this chilled avocado soup with crab. Dominic asked me mango and coconut curry. Do you want me to name the soup soups or not? Okay, you keep interrupting. Get his ass chilled saffron and almond soup. Oh, interesting. What else do we have here? These all sound refresh. Curried yogurt soup. That sounds delicious.

[Jessica]

A cold soup that's not refreshing would be odd.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, it's true.

[Jessica]

Like, can we name one of those?

[Dominique Foxworth]

Cold and spicy chilled pea soup. Golden gazpacho. Oh, sounds delicious. Chilled strawberry and tomato gazpacho.

[Jessica]

Jess, you gotta lay out in between these. Let's get in here.

[Roy Bellamy]

A little.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Red bell pepper soup with sambuca cream.

[Roy Bellamy]

You didn't get in there. She left your window to get in there.

[Jessica]

You're doing jump rope. Dominique, jump in.

[Jon Weiner]

Don't tell someone to double dutch. Just let them double dutch. We covered this yesterday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Double Dutch place. Jessica. Nice. Nice seeing you. Watermelon and cherry soup.

[Jeremy Tache]

I think I could be convinced on that. Coleslaw popsicle.

[Jessica]

Is that Tony Romo?

[Jon Weiner]

How is that? I mean, coleslaw is gold usually. So it being in a popsicle doesn't shock me all that much. You got to go. Something that is pretty predominantly hot strawberry.

[Dominique Foxworth]

Consummate, baby.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you. Excellent dismount. We will talk to you soon. The chill. The chilled. The chilled.

[Jon Weiner]

Thanks, guys again for your help. Appreciate it. You're welcome.

[Dan LeBatard]

The chilled pea soup segment doesn't sound refreshing.

[Jessica]

Actually, that's.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, see, I wouldn't have that. And this is the. This is the breaking point for me on this because you guys are making me the weirdo. Because I'm saying I believe the majority think of soup as being a warm thing. Thing.

[Jon Weiner]

Yes. But it doesn't mean they cease being soup.

[Dan LeBatard]

I understand that. And Greg, Cody trapped me masterfully, like a chess master the other day. So he's like, is split pea soup? And I'm like, yes, of course. And he's like, what if I take it out of the fridge, is it still a soup if I. If I put it on the table, is it still a soup if it gets cold? If I put it in the fridge? Excuse me. And I'm like, okay, yes, it's still a soup, but I don't want to have it cold. I only want to have soup.

[Jon Weiner]

Soup warm.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I think of soups as warm. Why is she calling me a child? And why are you guys making me feel like I'm not in the majority on this?

[Jessica]

Split pea soup in particular, because my dad has made it a bunch. When it's refrigerated, becomes like a jello. It's one of those soups that, like. It's like yield. And then once you microwave it, it becomes a soup again. But cold, it is cold.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's awful.

[Jon Weiner]

If you are soupy, you are a soup. Doesn't matter if you are cold or hot. Just like if you've written an article, you're a writer.