The Big Suey: What Is Your Spaghetti Policy? (feat. The 65-Inch Jewish Texan)

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Big Suey: What Is Your Spaghetti Policy? (feat. The 65-Inch Jewish Texan)

Date: December 18, 2025

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Episode Overview

Broadcasting from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, David Sampson, and the crew deliver their trademark blend of sports, pop-culture, absurdity, and sharp business analysis. This episode centers on threats of team relocation in sports, bizarre food behaviors (including the infamous bagged spaghetti), sports media’s evolving landscape, ticket sales theatrics, shifting realities of streaming, and a fiery debate on WNBA labor issues. Don’t worry—derision, memorable lines, and inside jokes abound.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Journalistic Credibility and Newsbreaking (02:05–06:35)

• Stugotz needles David Sampson about the blurred lines between journalists and opinionists:
  • “I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody’s fries that if they’re just there. That hasn’t happened to you guys. I’ve done it.” (02:15)
• A mock-debate erupts about who among them is an actual newsbreaker, with Stugotz touting recent “scoops” from Zaslow, which Sampson skeptically rebuts.
• Sampson: “Just because you have a degree in journalism does not make you a journalist.” (04:14)
• The group riffs on the tenuous definition of journalism in today's sports media.

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2. Bears Threaten to Move—Playbook or Real Risk? (06:35–09:40)

• Sampson breaks down the Bears' use of relocation as a negotiation tactic to squeeze more taxpayer money from Illinois, likening it to his own days with the Marlins:
  • “You don’t threaten to move to northwest Indiana.” (07:33)
• Compares it to the Chiefs leveraging border rival Kansas for incentives:
  • “What Kansas is to the Chiefs, it’s a slump buster…that’s what Indiana is to the Bears.” (08:54)
• Anecdote: Sampson humorously recalls wearing a cowboy hat and boots to give off a Texan vibe as a leverage tactic (07:41, referenced again 09:41).

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3. Spaghetti Policy: The Public Food Shame Olympics (09:40–12:25)

• Hilarity as the team reacts to a viral video of someone eating spaghetti out of a bag at a Chicago game:
  • Dan: “Eating spaghetti right out of a bag, it’s not something we’ve ever seen before.” (09:39)
• “What is your spaghetti policy?”—a reference to It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia—becomes a running joke.
• Imaginary contests devised: Which food would be most shameful to eat out of a bag at a public event? Tapioca pudding, lasagna, even ramen noodles get dishonorable mentions.

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4. Event Ticket Sales & Fake Scarcity (12:12–14:53)

• Dan and David dig into email blasts and two-for-one specials for the upcoming Jake Paul vs. Anthony Joshua fight as a sure sign of weak sales—contrary to the hype:
  • “That means this thing is struggling. There’s billboards saying low ticket alerts. And that’s also a move and an indicator that there’s actually not a low ticket alert.” (12:25)
• Sampson analogizes “low ticket” alerts to velvet rope club lines: more illusion than reality.
• Perspective on Jake Paul’s pivot from boxing to full entrepreneur/promoter.

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5. FIFA World Cup, Ticket Prices, and Fan Power (14:53–16:34)

• FIFA’s U.S. pricing strategy flops; American soccer’s lack of organic local support cited as reason why ticket incentives/fluctuations are needed.
  • Sampson’s insight: “There is not enough local soccer interest in the United States with US-born people to fill up any stadium anytime. So you do need people to travel and my guess is that it is way less than they thought.” (15:44)

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6. The “Miracle in Miami” Radio Call Critique (20:10–23:51)

• The crew listens to the radio call of the Dolphins’ famous last-second win over the Patriots. Sampson, unfamiliar with the play, finds the call confusing:
  • Sampson: “How can you say I can’t believe what I just saw? We can’t see it. We’re listening to it.” (22:47)
• The group debates the merits—and failures—of painting an audio picture.
• Stugotz: “I actually don’t know the play you’re talking about and I still don’t know the play.” (23:28)
• Fun exercise: Sampson re-constructs what he thinks happened from the audio alone.

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7. WNBA Collective Bargaining Turmoil (27:39–39:31)

• Trista drops in to ask Sampson about the latest in the WNBA’s CBA negotiations:
  • Current sticking point: Players want a percentage of league revenues, owners want to avoid pegging compensation to revenue.
  • “The biggest misunderstanding here is that the players in the WNBA want to have a pegged revenue number…And Adam Silver is saying no…” (28:00)
• Sampson details the give-and-take of sports labor negotiations and the potential nuclear fallout:
  • “If you had any ability to invest and you wanted to start a league to compete with the WNBA, this is the time. Every player is a free agent. If you have a well-capitalized business…the end of the WNBA.” (36:01)
• Stugotz expresses skepticism that collapse is imminent, but Sampson insists the threat is real if labor overplays their hand.

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8. Sports Documentaries: Alex Rodriguez & Derek Jeter Dissection (39:31–43:16)

• Sampson reviews the new “Alex v. Rod” doc, notes A-Rod’s thorough image resurrection from “loathed” pariah to mainstream sports face and Timberwolves owner.
  • “Everything has happened exactly in step. This is a person, A-Rod, who was loathed within baseball circles, just despised. And think about where he’s come. He’s now the face on Fox…” (40:20)
• Candid Jeter critique:
  • “He’s a bad person and he knows it. Everyone knows that he’s totally fake and I just…Everyone. It's so crazy, because with Jeter, everyone’s just over him.” (42:52)
• Sampson clarifies: The “everyone” refers to insiders, not fans. Banter about public perceptions vs. private realities.

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9. The Oscars Move to YouTube—A Streaming Future (45:01–47:41)

• Sampson explains why YouTube, not ABC, is now the new “prime time” home for major events—no longer a mark of failure but of mainstream evolution:
  • “YouTube is a network television property now, period…When you get to say you’re on YouTube and that you make a living on YouTube, it means you’ve made it. That’s just different than it was five years ago.” (46:32)
• The Oscars’ streaming-only future framed as a major turning point in entertainment.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• David Sampson on faux relocation threats:

  “You don’t threaten to move to northwest Indiana.” (07:33)

• Dan Le Batard on eating in public:

  “Eating spaghetti right out of a bag, it’s not something we’ve ever seen before.” (09:39)

• Stugotz, emphasizing show credibility with tongue-in-cheek bravado:

  “He’s a reporter. You guys are—question—anyway, you guys are questioning his credentials…” (06:19)

• Sampson, on the perils of the WNBA labor standoff:

  “If you had any ability to invest and you wanted to start a league to compete with the WNBA, this is the time. Every player is a free agent…” (36:01)

• Stugotz, sharing skepticism on sportscaster authority:

  “Let’s move on. Oh, we’re still…he’s got more.” (05:54)

• Sampson, about Jeter’s reputation:

  “He’s a bad person and he knows it. Everyone knows that he’s totally fake and I just…Everyone.” (42:52)

• Dan Le Batard, succinctly on event sales:

  “That means this thing is struggling. There’s billboards saying low ticket alerts. And that’s also a move and an indicator that there’s actually not a low ticket alert.” (12:25)

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Segment Timestamps (Selected Highlights)

• 02:05–06:35 – Journalistic credentials, Zaslow’s scoops, and media credibility
• 06:35–09:40 – The Bears' relocation threat and the “Jewish Texan” persona
• 09:40–12:25 – Eating spaghetti from a bag; “What’s your spaghetti policy?”
• 12:25–14:53 – Jake Paul fight ticket sales and manufactured scarcity in sports
• 14:53–16:34 – FIFA ticket pricing, American soccer’s market realities
• 20:10–23:51 – “Miracle in Miami” call breakdown, radio vs. TV narration
• 27:39–39:31 – WNBA CBA standoff, risk of rival leagues, financial realities
• 39:31–43:16 – Alex Rodriguez’s image rehab, Jeter’s reputation debated
• 45:01–47:41 – The Oscars head to YouTube, entertainment's changing landscape

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Episode Tone and Style

Irreverent, fast-paced, and combative in classic Le Batard Show fashion. The dynamic veers from big-picture business analysis to inside jokes and running gags—especially around food, credentials, and the personalities at the table. Sampson provides insight with a blunt, sometimes polarizing style, while Dan and Stugotz drive the show’s signature blend of wit, skepticism, and self-deprecation.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

This episode is a “greatest hits” stew of sports business insider knowledge, biting commentary, lighthearted ridicule, and pop-culture asides. Don’t let the spaghetti premise fool you—there’s substance beneath the silliness, as the crew reckons with the ways money, perception, and negotiation shape modern sports. Sampson’s candor and the crew’s relentless ribbing keep the episode moving, from stadium leverage and fake ticket “shortages” to shifting media models and the unseen side of sports icons.

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Summary prepared for those who want all the flavor, without needing to eat it out of a bag.

Transcript

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[Stugats]

Fair enough.

[David Sampson]

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[Stugats]

Welcome to the big sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show.

[David Sampson]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry.

[Stugats]

I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the Habitual Liar.

[David Sampson]

This episode of the Dan Lebatard show is presented by DraftKings.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Sampson]

The Crown is yours.

[Stugats]

David Sampson is here with us. Nothing Personal is the name of the podcast, and I keep telling you to listen to it. He's developed an unusual connection with his audience that is seeing some humanity as he comes through a very difficult time and tries to do his show, which is better on sports business than any I've heard. And I will tell you, the Sporting Class with Pablo Torre finds out is the best sports business podcast that there is. If you listen to it, you will find more expertise in an hour than you will find anywhere else in podcasting. I don't think I have that wrong. I've listened to enough people in this business who don't know what they're talking about, David, that it makes me wonder, honestly, how often you're listening to people on television talking with expertise about sports business, and you're like, this person's an amateur. This person is speaking about this very poorly.

[David Sampson]

It is amazing what happens when people have no idea what they're talking about, but think they do, or they think they're journalists and they're not, and they have opinions that are based on the belief that they have, which isn't actually ground in any reality. And then we sit there and decide, are we going to react to that? Are we going to say, no, that's not the case? And I spent too much of my career trying to explain to people what was real, and it turned a few people off. So I apologize for that. Good thing we got nothing but journalists in this room right here.

[Stugats]

David, was that. Was that a shot at Zaslow? Was that a shot?

[David Sampson]

It's just funny. Like, Zaz, I love you, man. You're not a journalist.

[Dan Le Batard]

My degree says otherwise.

[Stugats]

Really? That's your rebuttal? Clip it.

[David Sampson]

I know I want to be nice because Zaz has been super nice. So I'm having an issue because I'm not a journalist, and I don't know how to not be. Show grace to people or showing grace to me. But, Zaz, I'm just going to escape my personal situation for one minute and say, just because you have a degree in journalism does not make you a journalist.

[Dan Le Batard]

Are you a lawyer?

[David Sampson]

I am admitted to the bar, but I'm not a practicing lawyer. If I said to you, david, are you a lawyer?

[Stugats]

Your answer is, what? Yes or no?

[David Sampson]

Yes. Okay, then, God is. I have a law degree.

[Stugats]

You should have been like, I'm not a practicing journalist.

[David Sampson]

Same here. That. No, but that. But if you're saying that says, then I'm good. If you're saying that you're not a practicing journalist, then I'm good. All I say is I'm a journalist. And sometimes I do come in here and I report things. And you know what, Dan?

[Stugats]

A lot of times those are right. He's been on fire. He's broken more news than you. He's had like five stories in the last six months that you haven't had, David. Like, he's been a newsbreaker.

[David Sampson]

I'm not a newsbreaker. Dan, is this the first time you're listening to Nothing personal? You'd say that? You listen every day. I don't break news on Nothing Personal.

[Stugats]

I'm just saying that as a juror, he's got. He's got the degree you mentioned, and he breaks stories.

[Dan Le Batard]

What were these stories?

[Stugats]

I don't.

[Dan Le Batard]

Hold on.

[David Sampson]

What's the last story you broke, Zaz? Nico Harrison being fired.

[Stugats]

He had it before anybody the day of. You said he should get fired?

[David Sampson]

No, no, no. I said he's going to be fired.

[Stugats]

No, no, no. He recorded it as fact.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, one.

[Stugats]

No, he's got like five in the last.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. One.

[David Sampson]

I also reported that Jimmy Butler, Steph Curry and Jaymon Green are not playing the game here and everyone won a lot of money. That was, I think juju included.

[Stugats]

That wasn't a report. He did report that.

[Dan Le Batard]

None of these are. Let's move on three. Oh, we're still.

[David Sampson]

We're still doing this. He's got more.

[Stugats]

He's had.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Dan keeps saying he got more so far, two of them not actual reports, but we keep moving.

[David Sampson]

Let me think about it.

[Stugats]

He had. Sucks. Didn't you have the Florida coach first? Okay. Yes, that's right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. No, he totally had that. That was as exclusive.

[David Sampson]

I had Lane Kiffin going. Alice here.

[Dan Le Batard]

What are you doing?

[David Sampson]

Ye.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

You were on the group chat.

[David Sampson]

How dare you.

[Stugats]

He's a reporter. You guys are. Question. Anyway. You guys are questioning his credentials. He's saying he's a journalist and all of you. Anyway, all right, I, I could talk about this for a long time, but there's sports business stuff to talk about. And the Bears moving to Indiana. What are we doing there?

[David Sampson]

I want everyone to stay calm. The Bears are not moving to Indiana, but they're threatening. So, Paige, one of the new stadium playbook is when you're not getting the amount of money from the taxpayers that you want, you threaten to go somewhere. So the CEO of the Bears released an open letter to the fans yesterday saying the whole Arlington racetrack stadium that we told you was a go. Actually, we can't get enough public money. So now we've got to look elsewhere, including northwest Indiana, which is me running the Marlins saying, you know what, Miami, we're so angry, we're going to look in Broward. Like that'll really get. Everyone's going now. I threatened to move to Texas or Vegas or Oregon. You don't threaten to move to northwest Indiana. But then the governor of Indiana came out and said, we are all in on getting the Bears here to northwest Indiana. I laughed at the whole thing. The whole thing's crazy.

[Stugats]

David, didn't you wear a cowboy hat in order to kind of like he did?

[David Sampson]

I did. I wanted people to think I was a Texan, a little 65 inch Jewish Texan. I had cowboy boots, too.

[Dan Le Batard]

How effective is this move going to be? Because this is a page out of the Chiefs playbook and the Chiefs are probably positioned even better because they're in a border town. Getting Kansas to throw public money at this, that makes Kansas feel like it's big time. It's a, it's a big league market now. So like, how, how often are we going to see this? Or is this just unique to the geography?

[David Sampson]

Oh, no, you. You want people fighting against each other as much as possible. And when you can have two different state legislatures who are each fighting to give you money, or a local municipality versus a state, really, for teams, it's just dollars. And the more competition, the better. And so the interesting thing about the Chiefs is Kansas, it's like the person at the prom who is the last one and she's just. Or he's just standing there. And then all of a sudden, in baseball, they used to be called slump busters. And so what that means is it's sort of last. And that's just what you're doing. That's what Kansas is to the Chiefs. It's a slump buster. And that's what Indiana is to the Bears. It's just not going to happen.

[Stugats]

David, I have a number of things I want to throw at you at one time just to increase the degree of difficulty of what we're doing here. Can you find on your phone a best photo of you, cowboy hat, cowboy boots, as we play you stuttering earlier in the show as a professional broadcaster. And we put on the screen a guy eating spaghetti, a weird choice out of a bag at a recent Chicago game. Because spaghetti, I mean, what is the worst food I can put in a bag for you to say someone fat can't be doing that. I'm not saying this person is fat. That you and I, if we did this in public, Chris Cody, this would be a source of eternal shame. Eating spaghetti right out of a bag, it's not something we've ever seen before.

[David Sampson]

Looks delightful, honestly.

[Stugats]

As Amin asks you a business question, David, send us the photo over to Louis of you in a cowboy hat and cowboy boot. Well, first of all, the spaghetti out of a bag thing, me and Jeremy, that's an always sunny thing.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah. What's your spaghetti policy?

[Stugats]

Right. So I don't think of a fat person. I think of Charlie Kelly, moron, eating spaghetti out of a bag. But David, I wanted to know, you know, you say, oh, this is just posturing and you try to pit communities against each other to get the money up. What did you think at the time? I know this is a long time ago when the NBA was like, we're going to move this team to Oklahoma City out of Seattle.

[David Sampson]

Remember, I had some experience with Oklahoma City and that is there was a minor league team there called the Oklahoma City 89ers. I didn't work for Geoffrey Laurie at the time, but I went to Oklahoma City and, and was a part of that city many, many times. And it was not a big league city by any stretch. It was a straight minor league town. And there was so much going on with the Seattle Sonics. And I was a fan back in the, in the downtown Freddie Brown days, you know, then up toward Jack Sigma and then Kevin Durant comes. But what happened is that team got sold to someone who, it was clear they had an interest in moving to Oklahoma City. And it turns out it was an amazing move. It's one of the great dynasties potentially in NBA history. But now Adam Silver is bending over backwards to get a team back in Seattle. And the irony is the city of Seattle is going to pay more to get the team back than they would have paid to keep the original team there. And that's what I Try to explain to cities all the time. So no, Oklahoma City is not a big league city. But again, does it matter? Green Bay is not a big league city. And if you've got a big league team, I guess by definition you're a big league city.

[Stugats]

I'd like for you guys to come up with hypotheticals that either Chris or I might go to the Jake Paul fight. If I was in one of the good seats eating a food out of a bag, what would be the most embarrassing photo? I'm saying if I was doing spaghetti out of a bag, that whether it's always sunny joke or not, it's simply something I cannot do in public. There's no way for me to eat spaghetti out of a bag.

[David Sampson]

Pudding, particularly tapioca, hands down, if you're eating pudding or mousse out of a.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ziploc, out of a Ziploc bag, more.

[Stugats]

Disgusting than carbs in the middle of the night with sauce on them. Like, you guys got to be better.

[Dan Le Batard]

At least it's a meal.

[Stugats]

Spaghetti is.

[Dan Le Batard]

Spaghetti is a pretty good visual.

[Stugats]

It's a special. Chris, would you ever be photographed? Let's do that. Let's do that at the Jake Paul fight. Let's you and me go to the Jake Paul fight and just go with bags of disgusting food to eat.

[Dan Le Batard]

What if it's lasagna?

[Stugats]

I don't think you can do that would be spaghetti. But Mike's got a business question for you here, David, because what's going on with the FIFA prices is interesting. And what's going on with the Jake Paul ticket prices or ticket discounts is interesting.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, let's stay with the Jake Paul thing since we're there already. There's emails going out, email blasts, two for one specials. Ticket specials for Jake Paul and Anthony Joshua. That's not good news, right? That, that, that means this thing is struggling. There's billboards saying low ticket alerts. And that's also a move and an indicator that there's actually not a low ticket alert.

[David Sampson]

Oh, wait, you're saying when the low ticket alert comes, that means that people pretend. Like at a restaurant where you put red. What's the damn name of it? I'm having a day here, Dan. The red ropes that indicate velvet. Exclusive velvet ropes. And then you walk in the restaurant, you're like, dude, there's a million tables here. Why is there a line outside? Or when you're waiting to get to a club in Vegas, and by the time you get in, there's plenty of room on the dance floor. So I think that what we do when we're selling tickets and we're pretending that there is demand is we make up the demand. But when it were the promoter and it's actually our money, then I have no shame. If I need to get tickets moved that I know are not being moved, I'm gonna do a bogo. I'm gonna cut the prices because I know that $5 is better than $1. So it just depends on supply and demand. But Jake Paul hasn't experienced this yet, but it's very normal for any entertainment act, which is really what he is. It's just an entertainment act. He's not a boxer, he's just entertainer. So it's very normal that you will do these things as demand and supply ebbs and flows.

[Dan Le Batard]

Maybe clam chowder. What kind of draw is this to the consumer? Hey, come see Jake Paul get pummeled. I do think that if they are indeed struggling to sell tickets like these specials suggests, maybe we should look at this as a business plan. As is this perhaps the end, or does Jake Paul require the tomato can to move tickets?

[David Sampson]

Well, he's a promoter now, as you know, he. So he's smart about what he does does. He's not just getting purses, he's actually taking it on both ends. And so when you get in that business, you are not going to have an A plus every single time, but you still promote the. The C pluses and the B minuses and the B's. And the fact that he is participating in it on both sides makes a C plus still profitable. Just like in school, you get a C plus, you get to move on to the next class. So I'm not worried about his marketability because he's already diversified his business interests so much that he's not a fighter, he is a business mogul. And that I have great respect for.

[Dan Le Batard]

Ramen noodles. Let's turn our attention to the FIFA World Cup. It appears as though FIFA bowed to the pressure of the European sports consumer. We've said several times American consumers beaten down by the system and ticket fees and all that in Europe, they have actual power and they rose hell, raised hell, and they actually brought about change. Does this say more about their power though, or the lack of demand here in the United States at FIFA probably overestimated.

[David Sampson]

What change are you talking about? The $60 tickets, like 500 per side.

[Dan Le Batard]

For supporters, the Arrowhead stadium graphic is crazy. But I do think that the demand. I do think that FIFA overestimated what kind of demand there would be here. And I do think it correlates to the economy.

[David Sampson]

No, I don't think it correlates to the economy. I think it correlates to People have actual fear for World cup you count on travel. And I think that there are people, especially after watching last night's presidential address, I would say that if I am from out of the country, I would probably have no interest in coming to our country right now. Especially if what they're going to do is what they say they're going to do. As it relates to five years of social media history and your electronic signature history in order to secure permission to come into the country, I would say that that would have a question impact. There is not enough local soccer interest in the United States with U.S. born people to fill up any stadium anytime. So you do need people to travel and my guess is that it is way less than they thought.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chitlins.

[David Sampson]

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[Stugats]

The most important people in my world.

[David Sampson]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Sampson]

Now.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Sampson]

We've got you. We've all got Each other. Let's go right now.

[Dan Le Batard]

Stugats.

[David Sampson]

1, 2, 3. Brett. 1, 2, 3. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Stugats]

Chris, Cody, I need your help with an editorial decision. I'd like for you and Jeremy to stop fooling around. I have a number of topics that I need to get in front of David Sampson, but I don't know where to go because Trista wants to talk to him about the CBA negotiations. He's got strong opinions on what's going on with the Oscars and YouTube that I think would actually be something that people didn't know about. Everything that's changing in streaming, but you just told me that you have the sound of Jimmy calling the Miami Miracle and Gronk fooling everybody by not being athletic at the goal line. And let's see if you guys can figure out what would you go to here among those three things.

[Dan Le Batard]

Chris Cephalo.

[Stugats]

Let's hear the sound of Jimmy Cephalo trying to call what was a number of different laterals. Kenyon Drake at the end scores after about six passes to beat the Patriots at home on the last play of the game. And Gronk stumbles at the end. Tannehill, last shot. Back to old.

[David Sampson]

They throw it down, they try to.

[Stugats]

Pitch it and they do to Parker. Parker pitches it and it's Drake. Drake 30, 20. That count. He's got a tackle. Win. Unbelievable.

[David Sampson]

Are you kidding me?

[Stugats]

That is unbelievable. I don't believe what I just saw.

[David Sampson]

Oh, there are no flags.

[Stugats]

No flags. And the gamers only view the previous play.

[David Sampson]

69 yards. They got to review it. The question is, would he have been.

[Stugats]

Able to tiptoe that sideline? I think he did.

[David Sampson]

Oh, my gosh.

[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

That I left that part in.

[Stugats]

That call was great.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can't believe that was a 70 yard touchdown play though. It only happened picked up around like yard 25.

[David Sampson]

Your supplies. They were ranked last on awful announcings local NFL broadcast.

[Stugats]

I think Zaz has got this wrong.

[David Sampson]

No, it was not. Like they didn't give any details other than saying pitch to Parker and now Drake like they're not giving any detail.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thought it was spectacular. Especially the Ed Morris course. Of course.

[David Sampson]

If that's radio, how can you say I can't believe what I just saw? We can't see it. We're listening to it. If you're Joe Buck. You can say it because we're watching it on TV what Kirk Gibson's done, but on radio, obviously we're not seeing it. So don't you tell me that you can't believe what you can't. That was the worst call I ever heard.

[Stugats]

No, I know. I love it. David says I can't believe what I just saw. What did you see? Tell me. I know journalist Zas reported that all that, that call was when he was driving around listening on the radio was Cephalo saying something happened at the 10 yard line. And that's not what that call was.

[David Sampson]

Look, I thought that call was very unclear. I actually don't know the play you're talking about and I still don't know the play.

[Dan Le Batard]

Okay, so that's an interesting way to gauge it because he has no idea what we're talking about. Like, I'm already wrapping my brain around this is the miracle of. And it's like a huge, like last play. But David's approaching. This is like you're just playing it for him. I understand how he doesn't know what happened.

[Stugats]

You know what? I'm now going to ask him to recreate what he thinks happened based on that call. What do you tell me what you think happened on that call since you don't know the play we're talking about.

[David Sampson]

So it sounded like there was some sort of either an interception return at the end of a half or the end of a game and it sounded maybe like a lateral and then 30, 20, 10. So then they screamed. So I assume there was a touchdown, but I don't know if they won a game or if they tied a game or if it was a playoff game or a preseason game. So I don't, and I don't know the players involved at all. I didn't recognize any names.

[Dan Le Batard]

The interception would explain why Gronkowski is out there better than what actually happened.

[Stugats]

Let me try this again, David. It's the end of an NFL football game that's just been decided. I'm going to play it for you again here, including with the advertisement, which is the funniest thing about the entire thing. It's my favorite part about listening to the. The local college broadcasts on Sirius xm. The, the furniture. The local furniture store that's sponsoring the 20 yard.

[David Sampson]

I also love the start of it. He is like could care less at the beginning of this.

[Stugats]

So this is the end of the game, David, and you're going to hear a couple of names. Tell me what happened here at the end of the miracle in Miami. Tannehill last shot back to throw.

[David Sampson]

They throw it down, they try to.

[Stugats]

Pitch it and they do to Parker.

[David Sampson]

Parker pitch.

[Dan Le Batard]

And It's Drake.

[Stugats]

Drake, 30, 20. The count has got a tackle. Unbelievable. Are you kidding? That is unbelievable. I don't believe what I just saw.

[David Sampson]

Oh, there are no flags.

[Stugats]

No flags. And the game is only view the.

[David Sampson]

Previous play, 69 yards. They've got to review it. The question is, would he have been.

[Stugats]

Able to tiptoe that sideline? I think he did.

[David Sampson]

Oh, my gosh.

[Stugats]

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[Dan Le Batard]

Did he mention. Okay, did he mention Kenny Sills caught the initial pass?

[David Sampson]

No, no, no. All right, so they're at the 30, they're at the 31 yard line and Tannehill does a Hail Mary. But it doesn't. It's not as far as he can go. He does like I would say maybe a 20 yard completion and somebody catches it and then laterals it to somebody else who goes down the sideline and scores. And I'm showing my ignorance here. I thought Gronkowski, I was thinking Brady's tight end, but that can't be because it's got to be the defense of a team. So I'm not thinking straight of who the defender was, but apparently there was a defender who could not push the. The Dolphin player out of bounds. And Ed Morse is a sponsor.

[Dan Le Batard]

All right, I just watched the play. If you listen back to it, you would think that Devonte Parker caught a the pass. You don't know how far that pass went. He did not catch the pass. Kenny Sills caught the pass lateral did to Devonte Parker, who then lateraled it to Kenyon Drake. And Bill Belichick, the greatest head coach of all time, had Rob Gronkowski, his tight end, as a last line of defense, as a knock it down kind of guy, expecting, I guess, an 80 yard pass from Ryan Tannehill.

[Stugats]

You can find so many funny sounds in that. Please find all of them. I think we have some disagreement here though, David, on how it is that you've been talking about the WNBA collective bargaining agreement. So, Trista, the floor is yours.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, so I just saw the Athletic reported, David, that the WNBA, Pennsylvania is countering and they asked for 33% of a revenue split. Now I think it's down to about 30%. I asked if he's a Collier at this unrivaled event in the middle of.

[Dan Le Batard]

The WNBA All Star weekend, what percentage they wanted.

[David Sampson]

And we now finally found out what that was. It seems like this is getting contentious, but I guess to you, what's the percentage that you think gets this deal done? Oh, I don't think Adam Silver has any interest in pegging it to a percentage at all. And Adam Silver addressed the media during the League Cup Final in Vegas and said that he'll get involved if they want him to. But here's the surprise. He's been involved from the beginning. What he was saying is, will I go to the actual table? You don't need the commissioner of the NBA to be at this table at any time. But what they've done is they've extended the deadline first by 30 days, 40 days. So it's been a total of 70 days, which all you're doing is delaying a work stoppage. You want to get to that work stoppage because that's a legal term of art. You want to get to some sort of lockout or strike so then it can go to the next stage of these negotiations. But the biggest misunderstanding here is that the players in the WNBA want to have a pegged revenue number the way they have it in the NBA. And Adam Silver is saying no because the NBA owners are saying no because that's not taking into account all of the money that the WNBA owners need to profit and take off the table to pay down debt that has been accruing over the decades of losses. So that is why they're not having a meeting of the minds on any percentage, which is why the NBA is offering minimum salaries increasing like up to a million dollars. Because then you can absolutely chart and express what your expenses will be and then what your profits will be.

[Stugats]

So, David, the reports are, I think the WNBA stance is 15%. There is a percentage they're pegging it to, it's 15%. But the way they're getting around it is by saying, okay, and we'll have higher maximums for the top tier players, but also within that, that we're going to take away some of the benefits. Because all of these proposals up till now I've had, well, this is 30% of revenues minus the benefits paid out like housing and transportation on all that. So what they're trying to say is, hey, we'll get rid of housing, but we'll have the max salary be higher. And I was just interested, you know, in your experience. How many times do leagues do that where it's like, I'm going to try and cater to the elites, because that's a big headline line and this is going to screw over the constituency.

[David Sampson]

No, it's funny. The union tends to do that more than we do, but we just keep a piece of paper and we put a value to everything. So we know the exact price per team to establish housing for the players. We know the exact price per percentage of ERISA benefits that we would give, which are retirement benefits. We know what it means for every team's payroll if the minimum is 250 grand instead of 150 grand. So we're just trading off a column during CBA negotiations where if we give this, we want that back. And what the owners always say is that they want to come out ahead on their columns, they want to get more than they give. So that's why there's no specific landing point to any issue during a negotiation, because all the issues are intertwined, and you tend to settle everything at the end, and that's when an agreement comes. But until that point, you've actually agreed to nothing. Well, the truth is, you agree to a bunch of stupid stuff that you get out of the way when negotiations first start, and then you get an issues list of, like, 50 items that are all negotiated sort of together because they move in lockstep. So you're really trying to get a landing spot for tons of issues, not just housing or minimums or tagging a percentage of revenue.

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[David Sampson]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Sampson]

Marty Supreme Christmas Day. Marty Supreme Christmas Day. You know what I'm gonna be doing on Christmas Day?

[Dan Le Batard]

And it's gonna be watching Marty supreme. Because I didn't even need to know.

[David Sampson]

That critics were calling Marty Supreme a.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[David Sampson]

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[Stugats]

What I say on the front end.

[David Sampson]

Of this, what is it the end of the wnba?

[Stugats]

What are you saying is going to happen? If.

[David Sampson]

Let's be clear, Dan, people are not talking about this enough. We talked about it on the sporting class and obviously, you know, John Skipper's involvement in an unrivaled. But you also have talked about what Project B is. You understand there are players who getting paid multi millions of dollars to go play in another league. League in another country. This is the moment. If you had any ability to invest and you wanted to start a league to compete with the wnba, this is the time. Every player is a free agent. All of them want money and need money. If you have a well capitalized and well funded business, the way Project B may be, that could be the end of the wnba. And I promise you that Adam Silver is thinking about that. That and the players are thinking how real is that?

[Stugats]

How real is what you're saying? How real is it to be possible? The idea that because you're meeting a moment where profound asks are being made of a business by a group that has never been stronger than it is right now about asking for money in a culture where it will be very unpopular if the WNBA does what you're saying, how probable is that?

[David Sampson]

That it'll be unpopular if the WNBA folds? Unpopular to who? To. To the large majority of the. I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. If what you're saying that there have been expansion fees paid and they're trying to expand and they've got broadcast deals that were totally pinned to the NBA deals. Is that what you meant mean by unpopular? What I'm telling you is that if the players get too greedy, it will be the end of the wnba. I don't hear that's not the end of the world for them.

[Stugats]

I don't.

[David Sampson]

Because they have options.

[Stugats]

I don't hear anyone saying though that we're on the precipice of. Of it sort of collapsing and needing to reinvent itself. I haven't heard that anywhere.

[David Sampson]

It's just because people are not actually paying attention to what's real about this negotiation because they believe that this is their moment. Because of all the great press around Caitlin Clark and the excitement of the wnba and I am not in any way impugning the right of players to make as much money as they can. Because if you can go overseas, if you can go to unrivaled, if you can go make a living and it's a better living, go make it. It's like on any business, if you can make more money at the ringer, people are gonna go to the ringer. That's how it goes in life and in the wnba, if the players can make more money elsewhere, they're gonna go elsewhere. And that's what's gonna happen.

[Stugats]

Seemed like a very specific. Too soon. Too soon.

[David Sampson]

I don't think it's too soon or too much.

[Stugats]

The joke you made in the middle there. It's too soon. No. Okay. No. It's too soon. Very specific. Yeah, it was. It was too specific. Give me a date. Predict it now. Tell me when this is going to happen because it sounds to me like you're predicting it's going to happen because you know business and you know the problems involved with. We think we're worth more and this is the moment to capitalize on more. And we've never been stronger as a movement. Not just WNBA league, but a women's movement. We will get. Get our worth. You know where that can collapse with optics and everywhere else. When the pressure of this rises. Give me a date.

[David Sampson]

I'm telling you right now that there is not going to be an agreement before the new year, before this extra extension which ends January 7th, I believe. I think there are more moves to be made by both sides. But an agreement is not a guarantee. And if the Players association believes that Adam Silver is going to cage believe they are wrong. I can't give you a date because that would. It's not even journalistically proper to give a date because this negotiation could go on for three months, six months. It could go on for two years. Negotiating with a players union. We've seen that in sports. You just don't know. But I would be very careful being cocky if I'm the WNBA Players Association. But finding optionality matters and that's what the women have been doing. So I give them credit for that. That. But I'll tell you, owners don't care if the WNBA folds. They will be just fine.

[Stugats]

What is the movie you're reviewing this week?

[David Sampson]

Only if anyone's watched it. The Alex A Rod documentary. I assume you did, Dan.

[Stugats]

I have failed to watch it, but only because I learned that he had some hand in being able to control the content and therefore I thought it would be manipulated. So I didn't bother to watch it.

[David Sampson]

So does that mean you didn't watch the Last Dance?

[Stugats]

I did watch the Last Dance. So good.

[David Sampson]

There was nothing else going on. You'd watched the Last Dance, but not Alex v. Rod when there's way more Miami in Alex v. Rod than in the Last Dance.

[Stugats]

Was it good?

[David Sampson]

I found it enjoyable. I enjoyed the fact that I could speak to him about it both before and after I watched it and understand what the game is and the game has been.

[Stugats]

What are we doing here?

[David Sampson]

The Game has been a very calculated, planned, not surprising, a desire to rehabilitate an image. And everything has happened exactly in step. This is a person, a Rod who was loathed within baseball circles, just despised. And think about where he's come he is now the face of on air talent on a network, on Fox, on the biggest MLB partner. He is now an owner of a team, the Minnesota Timberwolves. Something that he's wanted to be an owner since the beginning of his post playing career.

[Stugats]

That's how you got $1.2 billion off of Jeters, by pitting him against A Rod.

[David Sampson]

Well, I, yeah, they hate each other so much it's unreal. And when they pretend to like each other on Fox, it always makes me laugh. Like does anyone believe, believe that they're being jocular? I, that makes me laugh. But in any case, yes, a Rod wanted to buy the Marlins and so did you see the Jorge Maas tweet about buying the Marlins after Inter Miami won?

[Stugats]

Mike Ryan I did not.

[David Sampson]

Someone asked Jorge Moss to buy the Marlins after he brought the championship to Inter Miami, the League Cup, MLS cup. And he wrote that ship has sailed or that time has passed. And I smiled because Jorge Maas was a bidder of the Marlins and he did not win the day that, that day because it just wasn't the right time for him and his family. But I'm smiling at all of the people who were involved in Marlins who are now involved in other things. And A Rod has moved on his way and so has Jorge Moss. The only one who is not able to move on, of course is Jeter because he shouldn't have been there in the first place. So it's, it's all an interesting thing. The documentary is worth watching especially to remind people of how low Alex fell and how high he has climbed. And just his personal story, people may not remember. He was one of, he was maybe the second greatest baseball player I ever, well, certainly one of the top five greatest baseball players I ever saw play Shepherd's pie.

[Stugats]

I have not seen David Sampson smile like that in a few months. The Jeter shouldn't have been there in the first place. What kind of crept out sinisterly from behind that beard at enjoying Jeter shouldn't have been there in the first place. Well, I'm right, but it's sinister. The, the glee you got from it was super unusual. I, I, I, I haven't seen you smile.

[David Sampson]

He's a bad person and he knows it. Everyone knows that he's totally fake and I just Everyone. It's so crazy, because with Jeter, everyone's just over him.

[Stugats]

Not everyone knows he's a bad person. David. Like, what are you saying?

[David Sampson]

People. People who are around him. No one.

[Stugats]

No one thinks that. David, David, you're wrong, Dan.

[David Sampson]

I'm sorry, but you're just wrong on this. You really are. But that's okay. Like, you're not being.

[Stugats]

You think that. You think the public knows? As a captain, As a.

[David Sampson]

No, I said people are people who. Fans don't know athletes. You know, they say, don't meet your heroes. Fans don't know players. They know players on the field. Zaz, you don't know Tua. What? You've interviewed him five times. Whatever. You don't know the first thing about him. No one knows anything about Derek Jeter or Andy Pettit or Jorge Posada or any of them. And, Dan, you're included. The only one you know about are people who are your friends. You know about Ricky Williams or Pat Riley because you're friends. What, you cover the marlin. So all of a sudden you know about these people off the field? Chile.

[Stugats]

Does everyone know? Put it on the poll Juju, please. Does everyone know that the captain, Derek Jeter, is a bad person?

[David Sampson]

I didn't say everyone. I said those who know him. Why do you misquote me for purposes of. Of your show? Trying to get clicks? David didn't say David. I agree. I agree with what you're saying.

[Dan Le Batard]

But you did say everyone.

[David Sampson]

I didn't say everyone. Oh, play it back. You guys are so good at playing stuff.

[Stugats]

Play this back.

[David Sampson]

Stutter back in, like, three second.

[Stugats]

Professional broadcaster David Sampson. First time I've heard you speechless. I've never heard you speechless before. Did Zaslow get you? That was Zaslow.

[David Sampson]

It's hard to win a debate against a real journalist.

[Stugats]

Checkmate. Real quick.

[David Sampson]

I love about Zaz Dan, is that he actually is paying attention. He's so knowledgeable and fun to play with on and off the air. But he did render me speechless with his conversation about being a journalist. I was just laughing.

[Stugats]

Yeah, meet me as well. Do me a favor here, though. Give me the best of what you've got on people. Not understanding what the oscars. Moving to YouTube. I will tell people. Last couple of episodes of the Sporting Class, everything that's happening with Warner Brothers, with Netflix, like, everything that's about to hit the consumer that the consumer doesn't understand, they're about to get mad about. Can you condense it for me in a couple of minutes?

[David Sampson]

Yeah. That's. That show came out today. We recorded that. And John Skipper, Palatore and myself did a sporting class all about the Warner Brothers Discovery and what's happening with Paramount and Skydance and what's happening as well with Netflix. It is a fascinating business story where there is a hero and a villain. It happens to be the same person, and his name is David Zaslav, and he is going to enrich himself tremendously. But I explained that, that. And then John Skipper, who is. Plays a very funny character, except it's really him in terms of his position on these things, forgetting the fact that he was the evil empire at one point, and now he's just full of love and, and happiness. And so it's a show explaining what's happening with Netflix and Paramount and Warner Brothers Discovery, so it's well worth watching. Now, in terms of the Oscars, I didn't get to talk about that, but we should get Adnan here. But, but listen, YouTube is a network television property now, period. It's okay to watch. It used to be, oh, you're only on YouTube. I don't know about you guys. Did you ever say, oh, I used to be on ESPN, now I'm on YouTube. Did you feel a little shame in that?

[Stugats]

YouTube's been very good to us.

[David Sampson]

Oh, yes, you shouldn't. It's the opposite of shame. When you get to say you're on YouTube and that you make a living on YouTube, it means that you've made it. And that's just different than it was was five years ago. Forget 10 years ago. The Academy Awards are going to be streamed exclusively on YouTube, unthinkable since Disney acquired in 1976. But ABC and regular network television, it's done. It doesn't even matter anymore, except for live sports, what YouTube can do for the Academy Awards. The award show can go four hours, it can go eight hours, it can go two hours. You can swear, you can get naked, you can do whatever you want want on YouTube. And it's going to be so positive for movies and for movie lovers. And people viewed it as a booby prize to be off ABC and on YouTube. And I viewed it as an amazing evolution of the Academy Awards, bringing gravitas and bringing a new audience into it. I was so excited. But the deal doesn't start until 29. It's going to start earlier. Disney's going to walk away before then. Wait for it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You can't get naked on YouTube.

[Stugats]

He's right. I tried.

[David Sampson]

Well, you can wear. You can just wear like a banana sack and a pasty.

[Stugats]

You can put it on the poll. Please, can you wear a banana sack and a pasty on YouTube also? David, I'm sorry to do this to you, but while you weren't multitasking and getting us the photo of you in cowboy hat and cowboy boots, Zaslo did uncover the incriminating evidence, as a journalist, that you did absolutely say, everyone in the world knows that the captain is a bad person. Zazler just gave me this sound while you were talking. I haven't seen you smile, person.

[David Sampson]

And he knows it. Everyone knows that he's totally fake. And I just. Everyone. It's so crazy because with Jeter, everyone's just over him. I'm sorry, Dave.

[Dan Le Batard]

I had to do it.

[Stugats]

I'm sorry.

[Dan Le Batard]

Checkmate just got journoed.

[David Sampson]

I just got absolutely journaled.

[Stugats]

I'm sorry, David. Nothing Personal is the name of the podcast.

[David Sampson]

I guess you're gonna have to just go with that.

[Stugats]

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[David Sampson]

Is that guy with the binoculars watching us?

[Dan Le Batard]

Cut the camera.

[Stugats]

They see us.

[David Sampson]

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[Stugats]

Excludes Massachusetts.