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Dan LeBatard
You're listening to Giraffe Kings network.
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Stugotz
Yeah, sure thing. Hey, you sold that car yet? Yeah, sold it to Carvana. Oh, I thought you were selling to that guy. The guy who wanted to pay me in foreign currency. No interest over 36 months.
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Jonathan Zaslow
Yeah, no.
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Stugotz
Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
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Ryan Blaney
Just like that? Yep.
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Stugotz
No hassle?
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Ryan Blaney
None.
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Stugotz
That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle. For convenience. Pickup fees May apply. The 2025 NCAA March Madness Men's tournament.
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Dan LeBatard
Is back and this time it is.
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Stugotz
Bringing all the feels.
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Ryan Blaney
The biggest event in Connor sports tips.
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Stugotz
Off March 18, and you don't want to miss a second of the heart pumping action. Catch all the clutch shots, big time plays, upsets, Cinderellas, blue bloods and more. Tune in to the n Men's Division.
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Ryan Blaney
1 Basketball Championship March 18 through April.
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Stugotz
7 on TBS, CBS, TNT, TruTV and Stream on Max. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings.
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Jonathan Zaslow
Why are you listening to this show.
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Ryan Blaney
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?
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Stugotz
I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
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Ryan Blaney
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
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Jonathan Zaslow
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.
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Ryan Blaney
I've done it. And now here's the marching man to Nowhere fat face and the habitual liar.
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Jonathan Zaslow
I was laughing on the way home yesterday because it is a particular kind of funny to speak to somebody who's not nicknamed Iceman and call them Iceman. Like, of all of the nicknames, calling someone Iceman who doesn't go by Iceman is funnier than just getting a nickname wrong.
- [02:06]
Dan LeBatard
Like Frank Ossola.
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Jonathan Zaslow
Yeah, I mean, just. It was ridiculous what I did.
- [02:09]
Dan LeBatard
It actually restored my faith in humanity a little bit because I put that 100% on AI. That's what I said Christopher Bell's nickname was.
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Jonathan Zaslow
That is not just AI, it was also Wikipedia. So we're joined now by maverick. Ryan Blaney is with us and I'm very pleased to have one of the most popular drivers around with us as Homestead Miami Speedway is hosting the NASCAR Cup Series this weekend. Sunday, March 23rd. That is FS1. 3:00pm And I wonder about this because, Zaz, I don't know how your ears are doing in radio. I know that I. All of a sudden my wife says bad. Yeah. All of a sudden I'm Asking my wife all the time to repeat things. And I've got to imagine just given how loud he's only 31 years old. Thank you for joining. Joining us, Ryan. But I got to imagine that one of the many drawbacks that happened from doing a dangerous thing like this for a living, this has to affect your hearing. How loud all of this is. Correct.
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Ryan Blaney
What did you say?
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Jonathan Zaslow
Yeah, that's why he's Maverick. That's why they call you Maverick.
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Ryan Blaney
Very good comedy.
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Dan LeBatard
Iceman.
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Ryan Blaney
Good job, man. You're over two. I'm actually Iceman, but it's fine, you know. No, no, thanks. Thanks for having me, fellas. I appreciate it, but yeah, I mean, it's loud, man. I mean, I've been doing this since I was nine years old. I grew up watching my dad race, so I've been around the track forever. And it does. I mean, we do the best we can of like, wearing in, ears in the car, stuff like that to try to just muffle some of it. But it does digress a little bit. You see a lot of drivers that have retired, they are on hearing aids now. But it's just one of the drawbacks.
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Jonathan Zaslow
You know, did you have a choice in terms of what you were going to be other than a driver? Because anytime I'm around you guys, everyone starts at 8 years old and everyone inherits it from their family.
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Ryan Blaney
Yeah, it's always what I wanted to do just because I grew up around it. And it was what I was most comfortable with, just watching my dad do it. I played other sports as a kid. You know, I love playing basketball. I love baseball. But then I kind of had to come to a realization, like, I'm probably not going to make it. I have my father's genes. I'm probably going to be 5, 9 and like £140. And racing is probably the best route for me. But my dad never, like, forced me to do it. Like, he was always, are you sure you want to do this? Are you sure you want to go to the next step? So it was something that I just wanted to do what my dad did. And I got lucky that I was able to get the opportunities and make a living off of doing this.
- [04:44]
Jonathan Zaslow
Do you have other places where you're an adrenaline junkie?
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Ryan Blaney
I'll be honest with you. Like, not really. I don't really have to search for adrenaline too often. People ask all the time, like, oh, is it just an adrenaline boost racing cars? And, like, not really. Like, you're not white knuckling out there all the Time, I think it's just what you're used to. But I try to find things that are more like relaxing to me, like going, you know, skiing, you know, I play a lot of golf. Those are relaxing things to me where I can just kind of decompress and just like be out there and not really have to worry about too much. So I don't really search for adrenaline too often.
- [05:20]
Jonathan Zaslow
Do you drive too fast when you're away from the track?
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Ryan Blaney
The opposite. Complete opposite. I am a very slow driver on the roads. I have nowhere to be quickly. I always tell people, like I, I get paid to drive really fast for my job and the only thing I get if I go fast on the roads is like a speeding ticket, a fine, or go to jail. So it's like that. The trade off is not worth it to me. My wife is actually the speed demon behind the wheel. I kind of, if she's driving, we're getting to the place we need to go to quickly. And I try not to be a passenger, you know, passenger, driver, I guess, and tell her what to do, but she's a speed demon on the roads. I, I, I don't really get anything for that.
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Jonathan Zaslow
Do you have a number of tickets you've gotten? Like, is there a number that you would assign to how often you have broken the law while driving away from the track?
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Ryan Blaney
I mean, everyone gets tickets, right? I mean, it's, everyone does it. I haven't had one in a good amount of years. I'll tell you, my last one I had was I was a junior in high school and my mother put a stop to that right away. The fear of mom got put in me after that speeding ticket because it wasn't a great one. It was a, it was a moment. And so after that one, I've been very like, I just think of my mom when I'm driving. Like, I can't give it up.
- [06:45]
Jonathan Zaslow
My mom wasn't a great one. Give me the details. What were you doing? You were going 175 miles an hour.
- [06:51]
Ryan Blaney
No, I was going, I mean, it might not be impressive, but to me it was bad. It was, I was going, I was going 80 in a 45. You crazy? It was not. Yeah, yeah, crazy. I was crazy guy. Yeah. I, I passed the cop. I came over this hill and passed him and we locked eyes and, and immediately I'm like, oh, no. So I just, I literally, I just pulled over and stopped and I waited for him to turn around. So I was already stopped by the time he even turned around. And turned his lights off.
- [07:26]
Stugotz
Do you ever get road rage when you're driving a regular car on regular streets or the highway?
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Ryan Blaney
Sometimes I get a little annoyed with. With drivers on the road, like everybody, like, you know, people merging, kind of being foolish. I'll tell you what bothers me the most is no turn signals. That really annoys me. Especially if you're like, stopping in the middle of the road to turn and you don't put your signal on. I'm like, what do you want me to do? That part really kind of grinds my gears a little bit.
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Jonathan Zaslow
Put it on the poll, please. At LeBatard show. What annoys you more, a no turn signal signal or somebody who has their turn signal on all the time? Because that's the problem we have in south Florida. The problem in south Florida is old people who always have their turn signal on. But we also have the other problem as well. So I just want to know we have it all. Yeah, we have. Yeah, we have it in. Well, have you noticed, I don't know if you've been driving very much around Miami when you're not at Homestead, but it's gotten really bad down here. You're not going to be able to get anyone while you're here and you should travel by helicopter.
- [08:29]
Ryan Blaney
Yeah, yeah, I get down there today. I have noticed. It's funny, we travel across the country and each state has its own, like, work as far as people driving and kind of what they do. You know, you got like the big cities like New York and stuff like that where I don't know how people drive in New York, in the city, everyone's just honking at each other. But then you got Miami, like you said, where, you know, people just are all over the place. I would say no turn signal bothers me more. If you have your turn signal on, you probably have your music playing too loud and you forgot to turn your turn signal off. I've done that before. But if you're still going and your brake lights aren't on, like, all right, you're not turning it. So I don't really worry about you.
- [09:07]
Dan LeBatard
Been a hard luck season for the 12 car this season so far. You've been having good cars and just. Well, I guess the sentiment can be expressed best by Cal Shiesty on X when he tweeted out can't wait for Homestead, where Blaney will lead the first 266 laps and then get struck by a meteor on the last lap. So I guess, Ryan, are you going to get struck by A meteor on the last lap this week.
- [09:30]
Ryan Blaney
I tell you, if that does happen, I can't be upset about it. You know, that's a.
- [09:35]
Dan LeBatard
That's a hell of a way to go.
- [09:37]
Ryan Blaney
An amazing scientific thing, right? A meteor coming to get you. That's like, the odds have to be higher than getting struck by lightning on that one. It's like, all right, well, if it was meant to be, it's meant to be. I guess for our year. It's been like a super scrappy year so far. Like you said, last couple weeks haven't really gone our way, but I've always related this sport just because I can relate to it the most, is like a big wave. Like, just, you got. You're going to be down a little bit, and then you got to learn when, you know, you're riding the wave and you're. And you're running really well, you have to enjoy that stuff, but, like, not let it bother you if you're sitting out in the ocean and no waves are coming at you or you're getting crushed by them. It's just part of it. And you just know that you're going to. You're going to go race next week and you can try to do something different. So we haven't really gotten too down about that. I think that gets better as you get older and just understanding that, you know, there's. There's sometimes nothing you can do, and I just got to keep going.
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Jonathan Zaslow
Well, you're the 20, 23 Cup Series champion and the runner up last year, so when, you know, some turbulence strikes, does doubt make an appearance or is your confidence so solid that you assign it to other things and it's not your fault?
- [10:43]
Ryan Blaney
I think it's. It's situational. Like, you know, I'm not really, like the. I don't lose confidence. I've just never been that person. Um, you know, and so I try to just, you know, not let doubt get to me. Uh, and I always just try to go back if things aren't going our way. Like, you know, we gotta. Our whole team is really great at what they do. You know, all 15 guys that we got in our. In our camp are amazing, and, And I have all the faith in them. You know, I feel like as a. As a driver, like, if you make a mistake, you know, just you. You try. I try to learn from it right away. And I don't think you try to let doubt creep in your mind. Like, oh, I don't know if I can still do this, like that's not a good way to think. So if those creep. If those thoughts do kind of creep in, it's like, all right, how do you get them out of here right away? And just try to think positive and. And if you do make a mistake, how do you learn from it? Move on. That's like the best way that I've tried to learn over my years of doing this for so long.
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Jonathan Zaslow
You mentioned that you're not out there white knuckling it. I suspect that there's not a lot of emotion. I suspect that you're pretty disciplined about how you drive. Can thoughts make an appearance while you're driving about other things? Or are you so focused that thoughts about other things can't be allowed because you might hurt yourself in moments?
- [12:00]
Ryan Blaney
Sometimes your mind will wander, you know, but those are rare, you know, in, like, certain spots, like running around, like, Daytona or something, and you're kind of just saving gas and not really. Really a lot of stuff going on. You might. You might think about other things a little bit. What you watched on tv, this new song you heard, but that didn't go on for very long. So it's. It's. It's very rare that that happens. I don't know. I can't speak for anybody else. Maybe I'm a little. Get a little, like, ADD or something like that that I have to like. Sometimes I think about other stuff, but it doesn't happen very often. You're so just engrossed in this, you know, competition that you're doing that you can't really let it wander. So I would say, like, that's a 1% of the time that that'll happen.
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Jonathan Zaslow
The nature of what you do is so competitive and obsessive compulsive. When you actually sleep, do you dream of racing? Like, are there things that make appearances because you have to be obsessed with this.
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Ryan Blaney
The only times I dream about racing is, like, fears. Like, one of my biggest fears is sleeping in and missing, like, the start of the race or missing practice. I've had a couple of those dreams, right? I wake up in the dream and, like, cars are on the track and, like, I've missed practice or the race. Like, that's the biggest thing of me being late. But other than that, I don't really ever dream about racing. It's always weird stuff, you know, like normal dreams are. But those are the only racing dreams I have because I think it's just like a big fear of mine because I have slept in before and I've been late. That was way back in the day, but I think that's. That's the only thing that ever creeps in.
- [13:36]
Jonathan Zaslow
I don't know how common a dream that is for everybody, but I found it to be a pretty common dream for people who have an enormous amount of responsibilities and constantly find themselves under a certain kind of stress. We talked yesterday with Christopher Bell about the pressure that surrounds this particular economy. So you love driving, but what about everything else around it?
- [14:01]
Ryan Blaney
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff, you know, outside the racetrack that, you know, that you have to do. And, you know, it's. It's, you know, being on a great plane with your partners, you know, and, you know, doing all the stuff off the track that I don't think people really realize, you know, of that stuff, you know, whether it's, I mean, a great example, like running through a weekend, you know, you'll get there on Thursdays or Fridays, usually have like a partner dinner on one of the nights, and then all race day, you probably have three to five, like, partner appearances, kind of meet and greets, whether with, you know, customers of that sponsor that you got, you know, people who work for that company. There's a lot of stuff you do right before you get in the car. And then even through the week, you know, I got to go to Raleigh next week to do a photo shoot for Advanced Auto Parts, you know, so you're kind of constantly running around, so that stuff's important. And I think I. I got a good look at that growing up, you know, watching my dad have to do all that stuff. So it wasn't just racing. It's how do you also can connect to people that. That help you out, you know, and kind of honestly put up the money to get you on the racetrack. Right. That sponsors your race team. So all that stuff's really important. And I've been really lucky to have great relationships with all my partners over the years. And it's neat because you get to meet awesome people that have the same interest as you. They're race fans and. And they love the sport and. And then they can, you know, ask you questions about kind of the inner workings of it. So it works out. It's just part of the job, and we're pretty fortunate to be able to do that. So I never get to like, oh, I got to go do this for a partner. It's always excited because you're happy to have them with you.
- [15:31]
Jonathan Zaslow
What is the worst part of the life?
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Ryan Blaney
The worst part? Wrecking. That sucks.
- [15:42]
Stugotz
That's a good Answer.
- [15:43]
Ryan Blaney
That sucks. Like, that's the worst thing ever. Some of them are, hey, I got a pretty good gig, man. Like, I'm really lucky to do what I do. It's a privilege to be able to, you know, to drive cars for a living, you know, but, but. And that's just part of it, right, is, is you're gonna get in wrecks and some of them are gonna be worse than others. But that stuff sucks. Whether that you kind of get a little hurt or just know that, you know, you're done for the day. So that is by far the worst part of it. That's the only complaint I have about my sport, is the wrecks don't feel very good.
- [16:21]
Dan LeBatard
I started following NASCAR closely last season, and there have been really some spectacular looking, yet really awful wrecks. And knock on wood every time the driver gets out, gives a signal to the crowd that they're okay. And I'm astonished by that. All the science that has gone into protection. And then they show the camera inside and I see the driver's neck get knocked around. I don't know if you ever get desensitized with the wrecks being having the job that you do. It's a part of the job. But does it ever change the feeling when you know you're about to wreck and you. You close your eyes for a brief moment and you're like, this could be it. Does that ever go away?
- [16:58]
Ryan Blaney
I'll tell you, the worst wrecks are the ones that you see coming. Like, okay, a good example. Probably the hardest wreck I've had in the last year was, right, we're at Daytona. You're riding around there in a big train, and I got hooked in the right rear, and you go right, head on into the fence, right? Going 200 miles an hour. And that half a second, by the time you get turned, by the time you hit the fence, it feels like an eternity, you know, because, you know there's nothing you can do about this, and you're just waiting for a big hit. Those are the worst ones by far. Some of them, you know, happen a little bit quicker, that you don't really expect it, but if you get to think about it before you actually hit, that's. That's the worst part. But the safety side has gotten, you know, just in the last 20 years, I think has gotten pretty amazing. I mean, there's still things that they need to get better. But yeah, the ones that take the longest, and I mean take the longest by like half a second. A second, you realize you're gonna wreck. Those ones usually are bad because then you, like, you tense up, you know, and everyone's always like, well, you know, if you're gonna get the car wreck, just relax. That's really easy to say if you've never been in a car.
- [18:06]
Jonathan Zaslow
It really is. It's super easy to say, yes, you might die.
- [18:11]
Stugotz
Just relax.
- [18:11]
Jonathan Zaslow
Just relax.
- [18:12]
Ryan Blaney
Yeah, just relax. It's fine. You're about to just hit this fence at 70 GS. You're fine. Just relax. It's like, all right, you've never been a part of this before.
- [18:21]
Jonathan Zaslow
Can you give us the most extreme example of you being a Star wars dork?
- [18:26]
Ryan Blaney
I have Star wars tattooed on my body. That's probably a pretty extreme. They don't wash off. For those of you who are wondering, they're there for life, so you better be a fan of that thing for your whole life. So I got a couple Darth Vader tattoos. So I. Yeah, I grew up. My mom took me to go see Phantom Menace. It came out in 01 or 99 when I was, like, 6 years old. And I was hooked ever since then. So I got to go to the. The Last Jedi premiere, which I thought was good. Think what you want in a movie. But it was pretty neat being in that atmosphere of, like, you know, a Star wars film coming out and I get to be the first to see it. That's very suck to you. So, yeah, I have a huge obsession with the franchise, and it's been a little up and down lately, but I have hope for the future, so we'll see.
- [19:13]
Jonathan Zaslow
You knew better or know better than to try and insert any Star wars theme into your wedding, correct?
- [19:18]
Ryan Blaney
Oh, my wife knows better. And I know better now, too, because my wife taught me. All the Star wars stuff is pretty much taken down in my house. Before her and I got together, I had a shrine, and when she moved in, she was like, yeah, we're going to get rid of this. You have to put it somewhere else.
- [19:36]
Jonathan Zaslow
I would imagine that a NASCAR wedding if. Baba. If you've got Bubba as a groomsman, I would imagine that a NASCAR wedding would be a frolicking, debaucherous affair.
- [19:48]
Ryan Blaney
I think any wedding is. Any wedding is.
- [19:51]
Dan LeBatard
Excellent point.
- [19:51]
Ryan Blaney
Full of debauchery, you know? Like, I think. I don't know what it is about weddings, but people just go nuts. It's like their free pass. If they go to one or three weddings a year, like, their free pass, and just get absolutely belligerently drunk and no one judges them like you know, it's like, all right, yeah, it's a wedding. You can go do whatever you want. It's fine. But, yeah, we got married out in Aspen, my wife and I, and a beautiful place, and, yeah, it was. It was a lot of fun. So we did it right, which was. Which was cool. Weddings, they go quick, though. That was the only bad thing about the wedding is it was over before you knew it. And. And then you wake up the next day, you're like, man, we planned this for a year, and now it's over, so let's go home. And so. But we had a good time.
- [20:35]
Jonathan Zaslow
Put it on the poll, please. Do you think that a NASCAR wedding is more debaucherous than the Average wedding at LeBatard show?
- [20:43]
Dan LeBatard
In honor of our guest, the maverick Ryan Blaney, I've put together a top five list that I think plays well. This is top five guys in sports that can rock a cap.
- [20:55]
Jonathan Zaslow
He wears a cap. Well.
- [20:57]
Dan LeBatard
No, I appreciate that. You're about to find out.
- [20:59]
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, we don't know if he's on.
- [21:00]
Ryan Blaney
You don't know if you're on it, Ryan.
- [21:01]
Dan LeBatard
We'll find out. Yeah.
- [21:03]
Ryan Blaney
Okay.
- [21:03]
Dan LeBatard
Number five, Fernando Rodney Strong. The best iconic start wearing mine like that. Number five, number four, Kyle Shanahan.
- [21:17]
Ryan Blaney
Really?
- [21:18]
Dan LeBatard
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Come on.
- [21:19]
Ryan Blaney
That is.
- [21:20]
Dan LeBatard
Back me up. Flat brim hat for Kyle Shanahan is the. Go to your thoughts, Ryan.
- [21:25]
Ryan Blaney
I like it. Yeah. I got to meet Shanahan in Sonoma a couple years ago. Cool guy. And, yeah, rocking the ball.
- [21:35]
Dan LeBatard
Number three, Cece Sabathia.
- [21:39]
Jonathan Zaslow
You're just doing it sideways like it's not.
- [21:41]
Dan LeBatard
I'm not. Kyle Shanahan wears the flat brims. And number two, Jay Z, obviously ranked ahead of CC Sabathia because he can make the Yankee hat more famous than a Yankee hat, so. And number one, race day, Ryan Blaney.
- [21:57]
Ryan Blaney
Oh, wow. Unreal.
- [21:59]
Jonathan Zaslow
Congratulations.
- [22:01]
Dan LeBatard
But this is an older photo. Ryan Blaney with the hair flipped out in the back. That is peak. No one is better than that.
- [22:09]
Ryan Blaney
Yeah. Long hair, full beard is pretty strong when it gets to November. And I don't. Don't shave or cut my hair. That's. It's a good one. But, hey, I appreciate that. I feel like it was. I feel like it was skewed a little bit, only because I was your guest. I was number one, but I'm right ahead of a lot of great athletes, great coaches. I appreciate that. That really got my morning started.
- [22:27]
Jonathan Zaslow
Congratulations. The highest, I believe you of your career.
- [22:30]
Dan LeBatard
You were the inspiration you could watch.
- [22:33]
Jonathan Zaslow
The number 12 team Penske Ford car as the NASCAR Cup Series hits Homestead Miami Speedway. It's this Sunday, 3pm Eastern on F. A pleasure sir. Thank you and congratulations on all your success.
- [22:46]
Ryan Blaney
Appreciate it guys. Thanks for having me. Had a lot of fun.
- [22:48]
Jonathan Zaslow
Thank you.
- [22:50]
Stugotz
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Jonathan Zaslow
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Stugotz
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- [25:35]
Stugotz
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- [26:18]
Jonathan Zaslow
Yeah, no.
- [26:19]
Stugotz
Carvana gave me an offer in minutes, picked it up and paid me on the spot. It was so convenient.
- [26:25]
Ryan Blaney
Just like that. Yeah.
- [26:26]
Stugotz
No hassle?
- [26:27]
Ryan Blaney
None.
- [26:28]
Stugotz
That is super convenient. Sell your car to Carvana and swap hassle for convenience.
- [26:33]
Ryan Blaney
Pick up.
- [26:33]
Stugotz
These may apply.
- [26:34]
Jonathan Zaslow
Don Lebatard, what is the worst part of the life? Stugats.
- [26:42]
Ryan Blaney
The worst part of the life of what?
- [26:44]
Stugotz
This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.
- [26:55]
Jonathan Zaslow
I wanted to ask the group a few questions here. And the first one is, I am asking everyone here, including basketball expert Jonathan Zaslow, to pronounce the name of the San Antonio Spur, who scored 34 points in fewer than 20 minutes last night and then during the sideline interview, brought out his good friend Flavor Flav to be a part of the shenanigans. Does anyone want to take a chance a shot at this person's name? Sonaro Is the first name correct?
- [27:29]
Stugotz
Nope. Everyone pulled back.
- [27:31]
Dan LeBatard
It's not Sandro.
- [27:33]
Jonathan Zaslow
Okay. Sandro is the first name and the last name is. We've got nothing. We've got. No. Nobody here can name the Spur. Who's.
- [27:41]
Dan LeBatard
Did you really do that? Sigaro is the first name and then it's actually Sandra.
- [27:45]
Jonathan Zaslow
That's right. I read. I misread my. Right. My handwriting. That's what?
- [27:48]
Dan LeBatard
Just Sandro.
- [27:49]
Stugotz
Mamu Kalashvili.
- [27:52]
Jonathan Zaslow
That doesn't sound right.
- [27:53]
Ryan Blaney
Mamu Kashvili.
- [27:54]
Dan LeBatard
No, that actually sounds. That sounds like I kind of nailed it, actually.
- [27:57]
Stugotz
Zazzle.
- [27:58]
Ryan Blaney
You keep shaking your head. I want you to try. How about that?
- [27:59]
Stugotz
I'm afraid of this one.
- [28:00]
Dan LeBatard
Don't be afraid. You're okay.
- [28:02]
Stugotz
I'm with Sandra. Mama K. No, I. I can't say it. I don't. I don't know his name.
- [28:06]
Jonathan Zaslow
He was 13 for 13 from the field. I'm sorry? 13 for 14 from the field and 7 for 7 from 3. That's good. Game in fewer than 20 minutes.
- [28:17]
Dan LeBatard
He was awesome.
- [28:20]
Stugotz
Spurs are trying to lose games. I don't know if they would say he's awesome.
- [28:24]
Jonathan Zaslow
He was wandering around the locker room saying, I don't know what just bleeping happened. That's gotta be a pretty good feeling, right? I don't. I can't imagine that. There is stuff that feels much better in sports than feeling like you're six for six for three and taking that seven three. And you just know everything is going to go in. I've. I've only felt anything like that one time in like an intramural basketball game I was playing in college where I just, you know, I was able to make four shots in a row.
- [28:55]
Dan LeBatard
One of those nights, huh, Dan? Everyone still talks about it. Dan.
- [28:58]
Stugotz
One of those nights.
- [28:59]
Jonathan Zaslow
I can't imagine how good that has to feel to be wandering around after an NBA game saying that you don't know what happened.
- [29:07]
Ryan Blaney
I want more details about that pickup game.
- [29:09]
Stugotz
How old were we? What type of shots?
- [29:12]
Dan LeBatard
Put some respect on it.
- [29:13]
Ryan Blaney
It was intramural.
- [29:14]
Stugotz
Thank you. At what point did you know you were in the zone? Were you wearing a headband?
- [29:18]
Dan LeBatard
He check.
- [29:19]
Jonathan Zaslow
Yes. I took shots from further and further out. But what I remember about that game is how the shorts I was wearing and how. How short they were. And I'm pretty sure they were terry cloth because I'm pretty sure they were Terry something that. Something like the material of Scary Terry. How dare.
- [29:36]
Stugotz
How dare you?
- [29:37]
Jonathan Zaslow
How dare I wear terry cloth shorts.
- [29:40]
Stugotz
To an intramural game? What's wrong with you?
- [29:42]
Dan LeBatard
Did you do like the three goggles?
- [29:45]
Jonathan Zaslow
Put it on the poll at Lebatard show. We were overmatched. We did not have a very good team and I was the only player on our team. We lost by a lot, so. But I was making.
- [29:56]
Stugotz
You had to put the team on your back.
- [29:58]
Dan LeBatard
Well, you had the Horace Grant goggles.
- [29:59]
Jonathan Zaslow
Yeah, for a stretch. They were coming out to guard me a little deeper than they would guard. Terry cloth shorts over there.
- [30:06]
Stugotz
Thick wristbands on both wrists, knee braces.
- [30:10]
Jonathan Zaslow
That was when I was younger. My father still hasn't let go of the fact that I was a hot dog as a soccer player when I was young, wearing headbands and wristbands. And he would always say to me, what are you doing? What are you doing? Why do you have to do that?
- [30:22]
Dan LeBatard
That's generally not the aesthetic for that sport in particular.
- [30:25]
Jonathan Zaslow
And terry cloth shorts, usually not what you go with in intramural basketball either. Short. But I remember they were short.
- [30:33]
Dan LeBatard
Well, short is back, by the way.
- [30:34]
Stugotz
Short is back.
- [30:35]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah. But this was the 90s.
- [30:37]
Jonathan Zaslow
Yes, Tony, thank you. I've noticed this. I don't know when this happened, but this recently I have noticed that very short ass hanging out of your shorts is back.
- [30:47]
Stugotz
It's back in.
- [30:48]
Dan LeBatard
But also baggy is back. It's a weird time. Baggy is back in some cases.
- [30:52]
Ryan Blaney
Not in.
- [30:52]
Stugotz
Not in sports. In hoops, you cannot wear baggy shorts and go out there and play unless.
- [30:56]
Ryan Blaney
You'Re out in San.
- [30:56]
Dan LeBatard
My favorite is when they, like, show highlights of the 2008 March Madness, and you're like, what is this? Skinny tops. But, like, they got, like, three pants.
- [31:05]
Stugotz
Is the ultimate example of this. The tightest jersey you've ever seen. And then pants down past his knees.
- [31:11]
Dan LeBatard
Blousey Dan, we have an issue. Look, we've knocked it out the park with both of our NASCAR interviews. They both went so well. Iceman and Maverick. Maverick went so well that we actually, once again forgot to play Vroom or Vroom Vroom, which is a game that we we've spent a lot of time in pre production for. So we need to find another NASCAR driver named Goose, preferably, and play Vroom or Vroom Vroom. Because these are really good questions.
- [31:37]
Jonathan Zaslow
I'm sorry that that has happened the last couple of days. I haven't really been buying in on Vroom or Vroom Vroom.
- [31:45]
Stugotz
What is vroom or Vroom? Vroom.
- [31:46]
Dan LeBatard
I'm glad that you asked. It's a game that we play with our guest, and vroom is just like, you know, that's okay.
- [31:52]
Stugotz
Vroom is like, meh.
- [31:53]
Dan LeBatard
Yeah, I kind of like that. That's all right. But Vroom vroom, I really like.
- [31:57]
Ryan Blaney
You're in on that.
- [31:58]
Stugotz
I'm good at that game. I'm in. I'm good at that game.
- [32:01]
Jonathan Zaslow
Do you want to play the game with us, or you only want to play it with NASCAR drivers?
- [32:06]
Dan LeBatard
Well, it doesn't make sense with you guys.
- [32:08]
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, are they just racing questions or are there other questions?
- [32:11]
Dan LeBatard
No, no, no. They're not questions about racing whatsoever. But that's how you get them. But you don't. I mean, it went so well. NASCAR drivers as personality types, by the way, have come a really long way since I was a kid.
- [32:24]
Jonathan Zaslow
And.
- [32:25]
Dan LeBatard
And it's something that these teams, they look for because his schedule is insane with all these events. I mean, when you think about sponsorships in sports, a lot of people think about NASCARs. They have to. They have obligations for, like, every single one of those. On race week, they're doing interviews moments before they hop in the car, they're doing interviews while they're racing. It's pretty crazy. And they have to be good at it now. They really value that. You have to essentially be an alien from another universe. You have to be like Verstappen level to not be marketable.
- [32:54]
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, this is something that I have found interesting in a couple of different places when it comes to how do you go about selling your sports and when you get to the most popular of sports, how do the burdens of fame make athletes or coaches be in a position where they don't want to be doing sales, which is what it is. So obviously in NASCAR and racing, it's the sport most associated with sponsorships, and you have to take care of the sponsors. But one of the reasons over the years that I have always objected to having college coaches on any form, television, radio, anywhere, is just because the whole job is sales. So much of their job is just to be a salesperson. And so they just say anything that fits under the umbrella of sales. And it's not quite what that interview was, where you've got a willing participant who's answering questions honestly as opposed to going to his sales talking points, which are meant to reach recruits. It's one of the reasons that I hate talking to coaches so much, because I don't want to spend a lot of time in any. In any place that I am talking to salespeople.
- [34:14]
Dan LeBatard
Well, it's stock car racing, so they kind of legislate parity within the sport. Some teams have more resources. Some teams have charters, and they've been doing this a long time. And some teams are just better when they build out better pit crews. But there's not. What I'm trying to get at is there's not that a lot that separates these drivers because all the cars are meant to be kind of equal. You have faster cars, no doubt, but they're meant to be equal in coaching. What makes a great coach? I imagine the distance between, hey, can this guy sell our program? Like you don't care about that so much. Give me the best coach, give me a tactical advantage. Yeah. Give me some guy that can recruit and maybe his team is good enough that the program can recruit itself. But in nascar, you need the total package. You gotta be a good driver. Absolutely. But you have to knock these, these media availabilities out of the park because we're trying to grow the sport. And people forget like NASCAR is an immense weekly property. You get 4 million people tuning into a race on average so far this season. That dwarfs the NBA when it comes to appointment television on the weekends, when there's not NFL football going on, it's this right here, nascar. So you have to essentially be a CEO of your team because you're often representing them in public and you have to try to win new people over constantly.
- [35:27]
Stugotz
Well, so he was a good talker. So they're all good talkers now, all these NASCAR guys. There's all out my favorite and good promos.
- [35:33]
Dan LeBatard
My favorite driver, Kyle Larson's probably one of the weaker talkers of the big drivers. And that's because if anybody. Kyle Larson won a dirt track race last night and now he's headed to Homestead. He's the guy that is like Verstappen level. You have to be an insanely talented driver to overcome deficiencies in marketability, at least from what I've gathered. I am a Johnny come lately to the sport, but it is night and day from when I was growing up watching these guys.
- [35:57]
Jonathan Zaslow
Do you think that most people listening to this as sports fans are ever doing any kind of conscious watch watching of the college basketball coach when they're being interviewed, Bruce Pearl or whatever, and saying that person's good at sales. That person's job is to be a salesperson.
- [36:18]
Stugotz
No, no, I don't think regular sports fans see it that way. I, I think they, especially fans of the team, they just like, they like seeing their guy on television. They like hearing from their guy and they, they love the idea of him going out there and sounding like he knows what he's talking about, like he's personable, like he's affable. I don't think they see it as everything that's coming out of his mouth is a sales pitch.
- [36:41]
Jonathan Zaslow
Well, but part of the job. I don't know what you would say it is, but whenever it is that these interviews are taking place, one of the things that's in play is very often is that person qualified to be face and voice for our team. It's not just coach the players, right? Like obviously someone like Belichick was aggressively against that. And football coaches don't actually have to do this because their sport is so popular. They don't have to do sales, it's it. They have to do media obligations, I suppose, but they don't. There's no importance in them having any charisma because the point is almost to get away with them from the microphones without showing anybody everything. But your sport is so popular that you don't have to do anything in the way of selling it. But college, college sports, college basketball and college football, every time you're at a microphone, if you're a coach, you have somewhere embedded in your understanding, you may be talking to a recruit's parents while watching for the first time. And so therefore what it is that you're doing has to be packaged a certain way.
- [37:49]
Dan LeBatard
And it's like prime example with Deon, right?
- [37:51]
Stugotz
Like Deon can go in, he knows, he's always on, he's always on camera. He's always doing something with the idea of I'm going to get the next guy who can change the program that I'm at.
- [38:00]
Jonathan Zaslow
I'm surprised though that more of them aren't more charismatic, right? Because when I just go, when I run through that list of over 65 coaches that are now in the tournament, Bruce Pearl is that. Tom Izzo is that. It's just, it's a likability, it's a charisma, it's, it's slap you on the back, hit you on the knee and, and make you forget that they're in sales mode because they're, they're, they're, they're presenting as a leader instead of a salesperson.
- [38:27]
Stugotz
I feel like the older guys are the ones who are most charismatic in the college basketball game right now. Right.
- [38:32]
Jonathan Zaslow
Patino's good at that. I wouldn't say Rick Barnes is particularly good at that.
- [38:38]
Dan LeBatard
I think there's something about the hiring process that kind of, it diminishes that aspect of it. It's such an incestuous business, such a networking based thing. Guys, they have their career arcs, they get taken from one staff to another and it's just all who you know.
- [38:54]
Stugotz
I mean, maybe the older guys are more charismatic because they've been around long enough to know that they have the security. So they could just show reps too. Personality reps too.
- [39:01]
Dan LeBatard
It's also reps yeah, but it's just not, they're not often. When you get to the high level of running like a big time program in college basketball, like they offer you the job, you don't necessarily always have to interview for it. So you don't have to peacock and you just get fortified in your way.
- [39:16]
Stugotz
Are we calling Rick Pitino charismatic?
- [39:18]
Dan LeBatard
Absolutely. Yeah. He has a lot of really had.
- [39:23]
Stugotz
People do to him under a table.
- [39:24]
Ryan Blaney
I do not.
- [39:25]
Jonathan Zaslow
Charismatic.
- [39:26]
Stugotz
I do not see what you guys are seeing.
- [39:28]
Jonathan Zaslow
You don't think Patino is a good interview?
- [39:30]
Stugotz
I don't, I don't. I haven't really listened to a lot of interviews with him, but I just. When I see him at a press conference, I'm not like, oh man.
- [39:35]
Ryan Blaney
That is a.
- [39:35]
Stugotz
When you see him at a coach.
- [39:36]
Dan LeBatard
Press conference, he's saying things like, Larry Bird ain't walking through that door.
- [39:39]
Stugotz
One of the most famous lines ever. I'm not saying he's, he might be a decent quote, but just like he doesn't ooze charisma.
- [39:46]
Dan LeBatard
No, he's one. He has charisma.
- [39:48]
Ryan Blaney
He has a lot of charisma.
- [39:50]
Stugotz
Riz.
- [39:50]
Dan LeBatard
He's got Riz.
- [39:52]
Stugotz
Agree to disagree.
- [39:53]
Dan LeBatard
Okay. Does he know Riz Patino?
- [39:56]
Jonathan Zaslow
That doesn't really work in terms of the sports debate culture. Let's create a show. Agree to disagree.
- [40:03]
Stugotz
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