The Big Suey: Wiffle Ball With Delightful Weirdo Kenny Mayne

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey – Wiffle Ball With Delightful Weirdo Kenny Mayne

Introduction

In this engaging episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard and Stugotz welcome Kenny Mayne, a beloved sports commentator and producer, to discuss his latest documentary, Wiffle Ball. Filmed at the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the episode seamlessly blends humor, sports insights, and personal anecdotes, offering listeners a deep dive into Kenny's unique projects and experiences.

Guest Introduction: Kenny Mayne

The episode features a lively introduction of Kenny Mayne, affectionately dubbed the "delightful weirdo" by host Billy Corben. Kenny, known for his eccentric content and fearless approach to sports media, shares insights into his career and the inspiration behind his new documentary.

Discussion on the Wiffle Ball Documentary

Kenny delves into the genesis of his documentary, recounting a pivotal moment from 1989 when he and Ken Griffey Jr. engaged in a Wiffle Ball game. This nostalgic event sparked Kenny's curiosity about the actual speeds achieved during that game, leading him to create a documentary that explores this whimsical yet meaningful facet of sports history.

• Kenny Mayne on Inspiration:

  "When I did SportsCenter, I always had a pen or a dice or something... this time it's a wiffle ball. And I'm gonna go outside in my bare feet. It's 37 degrees, but we're doing it." [19:40]

• Insight into Documentary Creation:

  "It's the journey of discovery. There he is, 19 years old, throwing the ball. It wasn't calibrated. Their little speed gun got me like 50, but I found the truth eventually." [08:02]

Wiffle Ball Challenge Segment

Adding a playful twist, the hosts organize a Wiffle Ball throwing competition featuring the show's crew, including Roy, Jessica, and even a dog named Willow. Kenny participates enthusiastically, aiming to showcase his pitching prowess despite humorous setbacks.

• Billy Corben's Commentary:

  "We're still 50 nines and not coming anywhere close to beating you. Here comes Jessica. She says she can throw an orange 100 yards." [29:03]

• Kenny's Determination:

  "I'm going to throw another one at my computer... I have a wiffle ball I always have set in my hand that's like a stress reliever." [32:04]

The segment is filled with comedic moments, such as inaccurate throws and playful banter, highlighting the lighthearted nature of the show.

Anecdotes and Personal Stories

The conversation takes a personal turn as Roy shares his memorable encounters with Mike Tyson, adding depth to the episode with stories that resonate with sports enthusiasts.

• Roy's Mike Tyson Encounter:

  "He grabs me by my forearm and pulls me in real close, real sharply. And his mouth is right by my ear. I thought he was going to bite my ear off." [37:40]

• Further Insights:

  "I've met Mike Tyson like four or five times in my life. Life every time has been a wildly different experience." [40:04]

These stories not only entertain but also provide a glimpse into Roy's personal experiences within the sports world.

Discussion on Mike Tyson vs. Jake Paul Fight

Towards the end of the episode, the hosts pivot to discussing the upcoming fight between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul. They analyze the fighters' backgrounds, physical conditions, and the potential outcomes of the match.

• Billy Corben on the Fight:

  "The stakes are... how many people want to see Jake Paul just get punched in the face really, really hard? And... what is the definition of the upper limit on age for an athlete?" [35:07]

• Roy's Take:

  "Mike Tyson, the most feared man on the planet. Is he still that at 58? Having been face to face with Mike Tyson, that never fades. He's always gonna be terrifying." [36:42]

The discussion highlights the contrast between Tyson's legendary status and Paul's emerging presence in the boxing scene, offering listeners a nuanced perspective on the fight.

Concluding Remarks

As the episode wraps up, Kenny emphasizes the importance of his documentary airing on Fubo TV, encouraging listeners to tune in for a blend of sports nostalgia and quirky storytelling. The hosts thank Kenny for his participation, leaving the audience with a sense of anticipation for his documentary and the upcoming Tyson-Paul fight.

• Kenny's Final Words:

  "Fubo Tonight, 8pm Eastern, is where you're going to see Wiffle Ball. Go team, go America." [12:43]

• Hosts' Farewell:

  "Thank you, Kenny. See you later." [32:38]

Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Kenny Mayne:

  "This movie is escapism. Ken Burns is in it. We have the Wiffle Ball headquarters president in it." [10:58]

• Billy Corben:

  "Poured your heart into this great competition. Go ahead, waste our time." [27:40]

• Roy:

  "He’s still got the ferocity, the fearsome presence. Mike Tyson never fades." [36:42]

Conclusion

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz masterfully combines humor, personal stories, and in-depth discussions on sports phenomena. Kenny Mayne's participation adds a layer of authenticity and charm, making it a must-listen for fans interested in the intersection of sports, pop culture, and quirky storytelling.

Transcript

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Billy Corben]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show?

[Chris Cody]

The podcast that seems very similar to.

[Stugotz]

The other Dan Lerd podcast?

[Chris Cody]

I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.

[Stugotz]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Billy Corben]

I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Kenny Maine]

I've done it.

[Stugotz]

And now here's the marching man to nowhere Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right. It's time for Thursday Thunder and it's brought to you by DraftKings. Stay tuned because you'll hear all about DraftKings and all it has to offer throughout the show.

[Roy]

DraftKings.

[Mike Ryan]

The Crown is yours.

[Roy]

Mike.

[Mike Ryan]

What do we got?

[Jessica]

Bolt me.

[Billy Corben]

Good timing. Good timing. You surprised him.

[Mike Ryan]

Usually the bolt comes after the pick.

[Jessica]

This is second time I've asked for a bolt.

[Billy Corben]

He needed the top production.

[Mike Ryan]

I'll bolt the shit out of you.

[Billy Corben]

We are in a contract year. You should get your timing right. These sponsored segments are important.

[Jessica]

Yeah, no cursing. Don't do that during a sponsored segment.

[Billy Corben]

DraftKings is our sugar daddy. Can we please do this better?

[Jessica]

Bolt me. Three leg parlay. It'll pay out at plus 472. But we're going cross sport and you're gonna have to be a little patient with this one because it won't fully pay off until the weekend. It could go first leg. We looked at Thursday Night Football. We got a good one Commies taken over Pennsylvania. Second week in a row that's happened. All right, we got the commanders, we got the Philadelphia Eagles, and I think Saquon Barkley's going to score a touchdown anytime. Touchdown, score, first leg.

[Billy Corben]

He's been pretty important for them, right? Like if we were to say transactions trades, best in the, in football, in the off season, Saquon's been the most important one. Correct.

[Jessica]

Hard hitting analysis from Dan Levitic. He's tougher than everybody else sometime and actually that was your take. You said there's like a handful of guys. Derek Henry, Nick Chubb, Saquon Barkley. They appear tougher. This is weird. Your takes are coming back to haunt you tonight in the NHL. Late 11010 start. I love this bet. This is one of the more routine bets that I have in hockey. Quinn Hughes, assist over. Love that guy. Sniper. And also to close out our parlay, there's a big fight this weekend. There's a couple of big fights this weekend. We're going to the Jake Paul Mike Tyson fight and we are going with Jake Paul by Ko, TKO, DQ at +150 to close out our three leg parlay. That is Thursday Thunder.

[Roy]

I've never criticized Thursday Thunder before. That's a trash third leg.

[Jessica]

You're a Tyson guy.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Jessica]

Have you seen, we've talked a lot about Alex Jones and you're all familiar with the Internet meme of like the before and after where it's the same picture. That's kind of what's happening with Mike Tyson training camp photos in which Mike Tyson, wow, what a transformation. And all he's done is pull his trunks up. All he's done is to pull his trunks up above his belly button.

[Frankie]

And everyone's like, man, that guy's in crazy good shape.

[Billy Corben]

If I did that to you right? If I did that right now, I think I would look in better shape than you guys think I am. If I were to just pull up my pants to a certain point. Why?

[Dan Le Batard]

This is why millennials were crying when Gen Z brought back the low rise pant. Again, Dan. Because the high waisted trend has been the best thing that's ever happened to anyone.

[Billy Corben]

I wonder if Kenny Mayne might want to at the end of this segment, see if he and I do a belly off here to see who it is. Can pull up their pants to the place that makes it look like they are more buff than they actually are. Kenny Mayne is going to join us right now. He is, I believe, to be, and I say this, you know, with the most profound respect, the single worst contestant in the history of Dancing with the stars. That's true. The single worst that there's ever been. However. However, I do. I do really and genuinely admire his bravery in doing that. And I think it takes a really great sense of humor to be someone brave enough to do that when you know that you cannot dance. So, Kenny, thank you for being on with us. I want to talk about your documentary in a second. But it was both brave and awful to see you on Dancing with the Stars.

[Kenny Maine]

That's the worst introduction I've ever had. Not just on this show, but really any show. I was not the worst. Even that season, Master P was worse than I. I just didn't following. And so I got voted off. And Bruno the judge hated me. I was doing things that were so subtle and nuanced, they wouldn't be understood for decades. And we haven't even reached that time point yet. But I tried. Plus, they paid money. I did it for the money. I didn't give a damn about the dancing.

[Billy Corben]

I want to talk to you about your documentary. You pride yourself on being strange. I would say that in the history of sports media, very few people have ever made the content that you have made. Why?

[Roy]

Why are you killing the guy? The first two things you said, I.

[Billy Corben]

Think he would think. Yes, I would think that you would view strange as a compliment.

[Kenny Maine]

No, I mean, strange is derogatory. You could have said quirky, ironic, you know, like throw some other. Other terms, like whatever. I. We're friends. I thought you liked me. So far, you've insulted me twice out of gate. But I'm here. I'll take the punches. I got a wiffle ball. I got a bat. I got a piece of Griffey art back here that's in the movie that's for sale to help my foundation called run freely to support veterans. So, yeah, I'll fire away. I'm ready. Let's go meet the press.

[Billy Corben]

Kenny, you're well aware, I think, that you carved out a lane in this industry making eccentric content that no one else was making. That.

[Kenny Maine]

That's a much better framing.

[Roy]

There you go.

[Billy Corben]

But you know what I meant. You know what I meant. Like, how would I not. Your entire. Your entire career is built on. I'm going to take a path no one else is taking.

[Roy]

Dan, your intro was like this delightful Weirdo. Kenny Maine.

[Kenny Maine]

Yeah, Here comes a Freak show. He's now a senior citizen. Playing golf a lot. Yeah. No, all those things are true. They tried to get rid of me after like two months, though, because I wasn't conforming. But I battled. I found a couple allies. Vince Doria. I know you love him. He stayed with me and kept me and I stayed around a while. But it was fun while it lasted.

[Billy Corben]

I want to get to the Wiffle Ball documentary that makes all of that awkward introduction. I'm explaining that you'd make choices that other people don't make. If you're going to pour your life into. Pour into making a documentary. Most people might say Wiffle Ball would not be the way to go, that this is not the choice of an easy documentary to make. So why. Why is it that we should be supporting this choice that Kenny Maine is making when he can choose anything in the world to tell a story about?

[Kenny Maine]

Because you're so fond of me and our relationship is so strong. You just believe in whatever I believe in. Next. That would be my short statement. No, it's a thing that happened when I was at Channel 11 in Seattle, Tacoma, way back when. I think I'd been on TV for a year and a half. Somehow I talked Harold Reynolds and Ken Griffey into coming to the Seattle center and doing a dumb little story. It was terrible. My interviews were horrible. But in the course of doing that, we somehow decided to throw Wiffle balls on a speed pitch at the Science Center. And I've had the tape for 35 years. I ran into Griffey a couple years ago in Seattle at the sports award show. And he brought it up. He says, yeah, I was going to mention you, but I want to bring up that stupid Wiffle Ball thing. And in that moment, I was like, I'm going to tell the story of what happened that one day in August of 1989 when he was a rookie. I was 28 or 29, and I've been contending for all these years that I beat him by one mile per hour. And I wanted to go back and find the truth. Was I right? Was I wrong? And it's the journey of discovery. There he is, 19 years old, throwing the ball. Also terrible. It wasn't calibrated. Their little speed gun. Look at that. That's got to be 110 miles per hour. And it got me like 50. But I found the truth eventually through this journey that took all of five shooting days.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, so five shooting days. You poured your heart into this documentary. It is on FUBU 8pm Eastern tonight, Ken Griffey Jr. Mean was saying right before you came on, remember when it was a giant national controversy that Ken Griffey Jr. Used to wear his baseball cap backward?

[Kenny Maine]

That was pretty stupid. Yeah, there were people that had a problem with that. They also had a problem that Marshawn lynch had tattoos and did like to talk to the media. But yeah, people are stupid.

[Roy]

Sorry to interrupt the interview. It's going great. I love this whole conversation. But Dan, you said the documentary airs on fubu. That is a clothing line. Fubo is.

[Billy Corben]

Sorry, that's my bad. That's a totally different.

[Jessica]

Love that dude on Shark Tank.

[Kenny Maine]

It's a great disseminator of sports content. It's also available through Roku and their other platforms. Fubo, 8pm Eastern. Wiffle balls, 30 minutes. We need this movie right now in America. We need this escape. Gretchen and I have shut off cable news. We're watching like the Today show where they're talking about hot trends and Christmas wrapping paper. We're just down that lane right now. And this movie is escapism. Ken Burns is in it. The noted documentary. We have the Wiffle Ball headquarters president is in it. We have a UW professor. You got old footage, you got new footage. There's music from the head and the heart. Pearl Jam helped us out. This kid named Sam Lachelle, a rapper in Seattle, helped out. And am I shouting? I feel like I'm shouting.

[Billy Corben]

No, I just love your lane as self conscious TV guy. It's something that's delighted me for 30 years. Like, am I shouting? It's supposed to be an inner thought.

[Kenny Maine]

And I wasn't the worst dancer. I was one of the worst dancers. But not the worst. You could ask Master P and his followers. They just voted him in because he's Master P and he's successful and he's a rapper. Nobody knew the hell I was. I just took the money. They said he want to be on Dancing with the Stars. I thought I was going to dance with a star. And it's like, no, you're the star. And I ruined that poor girl's career. They never had her back either.

[Roy]

Oh, no.

[Kenny Maine]

I said, yeah, they never had her back once. And I said, why don't we do something really simple? You know, just keep me in the box, right? No, no, no. We're going to be ambitious. And I was like chasing her around the room and throwing off moves and oh, well, that's over now. That was so long ago. The Seahawks were playing Pittsburgh Steelers in the Super Bowl. That Year.

[Billy Corben]

I want to talk to you about some sports things, including this Tyson. Jake.

[Kenny Maine]

I want to talk about my goddamn movie that's on Fubo, not Fubu.

[Billy Corben]

I'm going to wear that one for a while. Yeah, I'm going to wear that one for a while. That one hurts. We'll get back to your movie in a second. Because I think Wiffle Ball should be the new national pastime, but because I've admired how it is that you have made content for a long. You're cleverly disguised as a jester. But I've always thought because of your sensibilities, you watch everything in sports with a wink. But I've also thought you're one of the smartest guys doing it. And so I wanted to ask. I wanted to ask you from that context, what it is that you do make of what's happening in America right now is you hide in your bunker there and watch Christmas decoration shows.

[Kenny Maine]

I'll have a statement to make soon after the inauguration. No, I. I was surprised, disappointed. I hope they do less damage than I expect. But Anyway, Fubo Tonight, 8pm Eastern, is where you're going to see Wiffle Ball and yeah. Go team, go America.

[Roy]

Not only on Fubo, but also on Rocawear. Oh, no. Excuse me, Roku.

[Kenny Maine]

Thank you. You're like the fact. You got a real time fact checker right there.

[Billy Corben]

I need also, which super bowl did you mean?

[Dan Le Batard]

The Steelers in the. Did you mean the Steelers in the Cardinals?

[Kenny Maine]

Super Bowl, Steelers, Seahawks in Detroit. Stevie played before the buses.

[Dan Le Batard]

Last stop, that Super Bowl, Randall. Oh, that was a good one.

[Jessica]

Passes you'll ever see.

[Kenny Maine]

Yeah, we dropped like seven balls. There were a couple bad calls. The rest are so bad, it was an ugly game. But I got to interview Stevie Wonder, so. And by the way, I. In Atlanta for the Stevie Wonder for comma event in Atlanta at State Farm and then the Seahawks the very next day. That was October 19th and 20th. We were as high as a kite then. It was happening.

[Roy]

Is it true? Is it true that Stevie can see?

[Kenny Maine]

No, that. You know what? I think he makes his own blind jokes, but that one, there have been incidents like how can he drum? How can he do well, he's been around the instruments just like. I used to be good at football. I could do stuff with a football without looking right. Like, you're so used to the equipment. So he can just reach over here and grab his harmonica or play the sticks or whatever. It was a good show. I can do some other concert reviews for you. Pearl Jam, both in Madison Square Garden and at Fenway twice. Really getting off topic here, but what was the question?

[Roy]

Well, the question was, can Stevie Wonder see? Because now the urban legend I heard is that someone that I know is working in a music studio, and they're walking.

[Billy Corben]

Jones makes a very convincing argument. Famous.

[Roy]

You want to hear this story? Hold on, Stevie. Hold on, hold on. You want to hear this story? My buddy was walking through a music studio and saw Stevie Wonder at a snack machine, trying to figure out what he wanted by himself. That to me, is like, look, I'm not saying that he's got 2020 vision, but I think maybe a little he.

[Kenny Maine]

Was just feeling the vibes of the potato chips and the crackers and whatnot that was in there and determining which one his aura was drawn to. What? You know, that's what I think was happening that day.

[Billy Corben]

Are there not there? There aren't. There's not braille on vending machines.

[Kenny Maine]

There should be. Be expensive, but my nephew's blind. And did you ever see my nephew and me for Funny or Die, we did a thing called blind football announcer. Why are you laughing at my nephew?

[Billy Corben]

No, he's laughing at me. He's not laughing at you. He's laughing at me.

[Kenny Maine]

Okay, that's fine. Troy can take it. So Troy wanted to call a Seahawk game. And for Funny or Die, this is, you know, 10 years ago, we went to his real Seahawk game, got a real booth, and Troy was the announcer and I was the color guy. And he'd be like, Richard Sherman. I said, troy, no, we're on offense. Look it up. It's on the Internet. Blind football announcer.

[Roy]

I'm on it.

[Billy Corben]

All right. It's a lot of strange, quirky content that you could look up. Kenny Maine. Do you have. You have anything in your past that you look at and say, this is best of the strange that I have done. This is the proudest of the strange that represents my work.

[Kenny Maine]

Well, one I'm most proud of, and it involves Stevie Wonder again. I got him. This is the same year as the Seahawks, Steelers, Super Bowl. And the baseball All Star game was also in Detroit. Remember I used to play in those softball games. And I went to Live8. Not Live Aid, but Live8. They're trying to get the G8 to relieve African debt, if you guys remember that whole thing. And they had a big concert in Philadelphia. I went down there with no press pass. I kept on upgrading. I'm still shouting. And I got Stevie Wonder to say, I can't be at the baseball all Star game. I have a high ankle sprain. That's the pinnacle. That's. I could have just walked away from that, but I still need to pay bills and so forth. So I kept in the game.

[Roy]

Believe it or not, Kenny, there are a lot of blindfolds.

[Kenny Maine]

Find that.

[Roy]

Oh, there it is. Okay.

[Billy Corben]

The video team. The video team is very good. They're very quick.

[Kenny Maine]

That was really good because we didn't talk about this before. You had some other preloaded stuff. And I got to hear during your break how you guys put stuff together. Either you're very relaxed and good at what you do, you don't know what in the hell you're doing, or you don't care. It's one of those. I don't know which one it is.

[Billy Corben]

Yes, yes. It's all of those things. Yes, it's. And so we're throwing fake candle. We're throwing up. Is that a fake candle? It is a fake candle. Kenny. You can't do better than a fake candle. It. Gretchen, come on. Kenny. Kenny.

[Kenny Maine]

No, we have.

[Billy Corben]

Kenny, hold on.

[Kenny Maine]

You want to see our real candle? We just bought it. Sure, let's go.

[Roy]

Sure.

[Jessica]

I would love to see your real candle.

[Billy Corben]

See the real candle.

[Roy]

Oh, we're on the move.

[Mike Ryan]

Nice house. Right?

[Roy]

Okay, so instead of audio listeners, we're going through Kenny Maine's house. It's beautiful.

[Jessica]

Who's your interior decorator?

[Mike Ryan]

That's sports.

[Roy]

That's a large candle.

[Stugotz]

Beautiful.

[Dan Le Batard]

Wayne Scotting.

[Kenny Maine]

Wait, there's Gretchen. Yeah. Hey, Gretchen.

[Billy Corben]

Hey, Gretchen. How you doing, Gretchen? All right, look, they wanted to see our candle.

[Kenny Maine]

They were pissed about this candle. They thought it's beneath us.

[Roy]

I mean, it is, though.

[Billy Corben]

I know.

[Kenny Maine]

It's pretty bad. Sorry. I have a real one I can.

[Billy Corben]

Stick in there instead.

[Kenny Maine]

We're trying to save the environment by buying fake candles made from plastic or something.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Kenny Maine]

Do you want a real candle? No, they're good.

[Roy]

Okay.

[Billy Corben]

You welcome us into your home, and now we just shame your decoration and make you feel guilty about the environment as well. That's excellent.

[Kenny Maine]

You want to go outside where we can throw wiffle balls?

[Billy Corben]

Let's do this. What do you want to do? You want to challenge our group here? Is that what we're doing? We've got a setup. I saw somebody setting up in the other room, and it looked like. It looked like a radar machine was clocking things in the other room.

[Kenny Maine]

Are you. Are we on a time deadline? Isn't this the. We could just go on forever, right? Well.

[Billy Corben]

Well, no. I mean, yes. Okay. Yes. Go Ahead.

[Kenny Maine]

All right. Because I love the show and I care about Fubo TV and my show. Wiffle ball. And I have a wiffle ball I always have set in my hand that's. I. This little thing. It's like a stress reliever. Casino dice. I. So, like, When I did SportsCenter, I always had a pen or a dice or something and would. It's like a pacifier, I guess. So this time it's a wiffle ball. And I'm gonna go outside in my bare feet. It's 37 degrees, but we're doing it. And also, Gretchen made me switch shirts. What do you think of this? I should have worn this, right?

[Jessica]

Careful with that candle.

[Kenny Maine]

Careful with the camera. Why? No, the candle.

[Billy Corben]

The candle, not the camera. You don't want to catch anything on fire. You don't want anything to catch fire. That fabric looks flammable.

[Roy]

Okay, hold on.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. We're going back through his house.

[Kenny Maine]

Going live.

[Roy]

There he goes.

[Kenny Maine]

Relax.

[Roy]

So he's in his backyard, ladies and gentlemen.

[Dan Le Batard]

Beautiful landscaping.

[Roy]

Beautiful landscaping. There it is. Look at fall. That's what it looks like, guys.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's mentally tougher than us.

[Kenny Maine]

Sure is. All right, did you show the clip where I went back? We never even talked about the stupid movie, did we? We really didn't. We just kind of like. I think we didn't talk about is.

[Billy Corben]

The state of America. You avoided that deftly.

[Kenny Maine]

That's what we did for that. It's not time. We can't do anything about it right now.

[Roy]

That's a good point. Damn good point.

[Billy Corben]

You know what? You know what? You got me cornered, mate. Okay? Just throw a whiffle, then let's laugh until fire fills the sky. Go ahead, just waste our time. Go ahead, waste our time.

[Kenny Maine]

Throwing a wiffle ball in the movie. At the beginning, I tell the Dick Williams story. Remember Dick Williams, the crusty old manager, Oakland A's? And he was with the Mariners.

[Roy]

Sure.

[Kenny Maine]

And I went up to him on day one. I'm nervous. Reporter. I'm like. I was trying to do a joke out of the gate. Dick, is it just me or if you had trouble purchasing wiffle ball equipment this spring? And there was just utter. The worst ever. And he goes. I go, you know the plastic bat thing, the yellow. I know what Wiffle ball is. Your joke's not funny. So then I transitioned to. Tell me about your middle relief. All right, So I went to Driveline Baseball, Kent Washington, where they train real athletes, baseball players, trying to top the number that I did with Griffey on inferior equipment. And by the way, it wasn't even a real wiffle ball. So I took a real wiffle ball, went at my age, 35 years later to try to beat my old number, and I did. The theory was it's a lighter ball and better equipment for judging it. So I challenge your young people who should be able to beat me. They're probably 30 years my junior, right? I'm like a senior citizen at least.

[Billy Corben]

Ken 69, aren't you actually a senior citizen? Or is it 65 or 70? That's a senior citizen citizen.

[Kenny Maine]

You know what?

[Frankie]

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[Kenny Maine]

Don LeBatard is it Tuesday? Yeah. Is this gonna run on Tuesday? It better. Why would you not interview me and then not run it on the same day? That's stupid.

[Chris Cody]

Nonsensical.

[Billy Corben]

You're right.

[Kenny Maine]

Stugots.

[Billy Corben]

Why are you leaving?

[Kenny Maine]

Why am I even doing this interview? I should be like on a live program. What the you down? This is the D Levatar show with the St Cats. I threw 69. I thought I could get higher. I think your young people at 46ft it was little league distance should be able to I'm going To throw one by, just so you hear the wiffle ball noise, because this is fun.

[Roy]

Let's see.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, let's see if this works as audio, because you're gonna have to be accurate.

[Roy]

Oh, snap. You almost hit the camera. Okay, he almost hit the camera.

[Billy Corben]

It was. It was very accurate. It was very fast. The audio wasn't exceptional.

[Roy]

There was a little.

[Billy Corben]

There was speed on it. There was a whip. What?

[Kenny Maine]

Do you have a time that was 73?

[Billy Corben]

I don't believe you. I believe they say, wait, where's the camera that shows us the measurement?

[Jessica]

The right smile kind of gave the game away.

[Kenny Maine]

You know how hard it is, Because I've done first pitches at baseball games several times, and I still think I have a decent arm. Not what it was 40 years ago. I couldn't even hit. I was like, 68, 72. Do at best 73. Those pitchers, how they do it, the mechanics of it. I'm still just mystified by, like, how. How they get up in the 90s and over to 100. They're also 21 years old and 6, 5, 2, 40. But the only thing I can still do is throw a football, like 40 and in. I'm still pretty good, but the elasticity is gone. I'm in my senior years. I'm not playing from the senior tees, though, I'll tell you that much. We're way back at the whites or the blues.

[Billy Corben]

But you care so little about this particular competition that you're not. Not going to give us an honest time of what it is that you just threw. You're just making up the number 73.

[Kenny Maine]

I have a radar gun at my house.

[Billy Corben]

I thought we were. I thought we were doing something for your documentary to promote it. I thought you were going to put some effort into this.

[Roy]

To be fair, Kenny, it is a really nice house.

[Kenny Maine]

69, terrible candles. 69 is the number I hit last April. A year ago, April. 69. They got to try to beat you. Got to throw it 40ft or so toward. Toward the mound. They wanted me to come up with the prize. I have a highlight, two highlight sestas and a payload. I'm not giving those up. I have a slime wiffle ball from Ken Griffey Jr. But it faded, and you can't see the signature anymore, but it's in a glass case. I have a champagne bottle from the Seahawks championship when they beat Denver. I'm not giving that up either. I will do a personal voicemail to the winner because I'm so famous and I'll say, hey, this is Kenny Maine, famous guy. And so. And so whatever your name is, beat me at Wiffle Ball. And that'll be his or her outgoing message. That's. That's the best we could come up with.

[Billy Corben]

Okay. A lot of effort and thought and ideas have been poured into this great competition. Let's go out into the other room here and see who we've got. We've got a Pop Tart. We got Frankie from security. We got Roy, and we got Jessica out there. Willow is also out there. That's a dog. Is Roy going to go first? Who's got the first?

[Mike Ryan]

It appears Roy's gone first. He's going right now.

[Billy Corben]

Roy prides himself on his arm.

[Mike Ryan]

The wind up and the pitch. That looks hard.

[Roy]

58.

[Billy Corben]

58 miles an hour.

[Kenny Maine]

That's a warm up throw. All right.

[Mike Ryan]

The Pop Tarts going to go now.

[Billy Corben]

Okay. He says you're going to be able to try again now. Hasn't Jessica claimed to have a giant arm that can throw oranges 100 yards? Jessica claims to have a giant arm.

[Mike Ryan]

She's out there on Willow. Watch now. The Pop Tart throws.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, the Pop Tart. The costume was inhibiting.

[Mike Ryan]

59.

[Kenny Maine]

Pop Tart.

[Billy Corben]

Pop Tart. Roy, you're going to get another shot at this. We're going to go through a couple of times. I'm really hoping that Jessica throws something 104 miles an hour.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, Roy's going here for the second throw with a wind up and the pitch.

[Roy]

I think Roy needs more leg action. He's kind of you kind of nonchalant.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy. They're going normal pitching, whereas, like, can they do crow hops here? Like, could they do it as if they're an outfielder?

[Roy]

No, no, no.

[Kenny Maine]

I mean, we didn't go over that rule. I thought it was a wind up.

[Billy Corben]

What do you mean? Nope. You got in there and you started making rules aggressively all of a sudden. What do you mean you can't do a crow hop? Go ahead, Pop Tart, do whatever you want.

[Kenny Maine]

Pop tart, wind up 37. Pop tart.

[Mike Ryan]

Seven pop tart deals.

[Billy Corben]

He's not very accurate.

[Chris Cody]

57.

[Mike Ryan]

Jeremy was a high school, like, all county pitcher, too.

[Roy]

Oh, that's Jeremy the Pop Tart, all right.

[Kenny Maine]

But they're only like 10ft away from the couch. If I stood against my house and just three feet away, I think I get a bigger number.

[Billy Corben]

We're still 50 nines and not coming anywhere close to beating you. Here comes Jessica. Here she is about to throw again. She says she can throw an orange 100 yards the length of a four.

[Kenny Maine]

She can't. No. Oh, that was a good throw.

[Billy Corben]

43 miles an hour.

[Roy]

Again, not enough leg action. I feel like they're not using enough torque.

[Billy Corben]

Dan, I feel like we should bail on the entirety of this if no one is going to hit. Oh, now, Chris Cody. Chris Cody.

[Jessica]

Physical challenge, dude.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, he likes. Let's see what we've got here.

[Roy]

Oh, he's stretching, ladies and gentlemen. That's how. I didn't see anyone started to see the pop dart stretch.

[Billy Corben]

This seems like a liability issue, too. There are a lot of people here who can hurt ligaments, a rotator cuff, something can. Can be caused here. Chris is about to throw the Wiffle ball. This is the final throw.

[Roy]

Oh, that was good.

[Jessica]

60.

[Billy Corben]

60 miles an hour.

[Roy]

60.

[Billy Corben]

So nowhere near where it is. Kenny, man, look at him. The smug, smug look of arrogance. Look how little effort.

[Kenny Maine]

Really? Is it really only 10:06 Eastern? Like, we've really only been on for 20 some minutes. That feels like two or three hours. Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

You said you were going to waste our time. We just got 67 miles an hour from Chris Cody. But I think he hurt his hand. And there it is.

[Kenny Maine]

I don't believe the liability.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, the liability issue. I knew was coming. Who was that? Is that Frankie?

[Roy]

No, that's Roy.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a sweaterless Roy.

[Roy]

Roy took off his sweatshirt.

[Mike Ryan]

My arm is killing me right now. I feel like Giannis. After that.

[Roy]

What happened? We didn't even get a reading for that one from Roy.

[Billy Corben]

No, because you should feel tingling all.

[Kenny Maine]

The way down your arm.

[Mike Ryan]

Feel it in my wrist. My wrist is.

[Billy Corben]

Jerry.

[Kenny Maine]

That's a good throw.

[Billy Corben]

Was the problem. So now it's 61 miles an hour, all of this.

[Kenny Maine]

I'm going to throw another one at my computer.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, what are we doing now? Now we're just wasting everybody's time. All right. No one is having proper respect for what it is that we're doing around here. I am. Kenny. Kenny. Thank you, Wiffle ball.

[Kenny Maine]

I'm still here, still going. Guys, hold on. I want to talk about my next documentary.

[Billy Corben]

8:00Pm Eastern on Fubo. Fubo. The documentary is called Wiffle Ball. Thank you, Kenny. Good seeing you. Good. Good talking to you. Always nice seeing your face.

[Kenny Maine]

Thanks for the warm introduction.

[Billy Corben]

You're welcome. He's very strange. And he's the worst contestant in the history of Dancing with the Stars.

[Jessica]

Chris Cody's really hurt.

[Billy Corben]

Oh, I know he is. I told you guys that that's. That was a bad idea. Thank you, Kenny. See you later.

[Kenny Maine]

Thank you.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about what is happening tomorrow night between Mike Tyson and Jake Paul.

[Roy]

Yes.

[Billy Corben]

Because I said the other day when we were talking about this, and I said it matter of factly that I thought that the combination of streaming, getting into live sports combined with fame and the currency of pop culture, people are talking about you. Jake Paul and Mike Tyson cover a wide swath. Swath, Swath of real estate on fame for four decades. Right. Because if Tyson's. Tyson's been famous since he's 20 years old. Since he's 20 years old.

[Jessica]

Tyson, Jake Paul's famous. Famous for close to a decade.

[Billy Corben]

And. And so there's a lot of. So somebody now beats Jeremy. Now Kenny Maine throw. Now he's Kenny back on. Now he throws 72 miles an hour.

[Kenny Maine]

72. I got it up to 65.

[Billy Corben]

No one has proof of that. I thought you were Frankie before.

[Jessica]

That's when. What?

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, you took off your hoodie and I thought you were Frankie because you were far away.

[Jessica]

I didn't want to call Dan out on that. But he. He's now since revealed himself to be racist.

[Mike Ryan]

If I had said that.

[Billy Corben]

You've known me for 20 years. I know. It's my glasses. Don't take it.

[Jessica]

Don't freaking. I don't see color.

[Dan Le Batard]

I hurt my elbow a little.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, it did. It seemed like a terrible idea.

[Jessica]

I need Tommy John.

[Dan Le Batard]

I didn't warm up. It was bad. But 43, not bad for someone that's never thrown a wiffle ball before.

[Billy Corben]

A terrible idea. Poorly executed because there were injuries and we didn't get the payoff because camera shots were great. Jeremy shot. Jeremy didn't throw at 72 miles an hour until we were off air and Kenny Maine was gone.

[Mike Ryan]

Now Rose is going.

[Billy Corben]

Rose very half hearted. I don't really want to do any more play by play of that room. You guys can stop going to that room whenever it is that you want to do it. About ten times too many already.

[Dan Le Batard]

That was really fun, though.

[Billy Corben]

And yeah, I know it was fun. So fun that when Chris Cody ran back in here, forgot we were live, forgot we still had show to do. Just came in dancing because he threw a ball hard and forgot that he had a job to do and hurt his arm on top of that.

[Roy]

So Jake Paul and Mike Tyson, huh?

[Billy Corben]

Yes. Well, the thing that I wanted to ask you because I said it flippantly last week is I think that will do bigger numbers than Tom Brady's Rose Tom Brady's Rose was the biggest thing that Netflix has had in comedy. They don't release exact numbers, but Netflix was very happy with that foray into live streaming and the future, as we all know of money in this business, a business that's changing rapidly, by the way, like, changing in enormous ways, where it seems like Amazon and Netflix are just going to buy everything up and they're going to be in control of content. Content for a while. Netflix is getting into the game with a Friday night event that is going to have, I think, more talk and publicity around it than when Chris Rock went live. And they're trying to change live and streaming and comedy there and the Tom Brady Roast where they're going live on content. I think this has the chance to be the biggest live thing that Netflix has done just because of. Of how many people it could get into the tent with. Just what is this circus act? It has next to nothing to do with boxing, but I don't want to spend too much time either mocking it or even analyzing the character of the two people doing this to make all this money. But as, like, the apocalypse happens all around us and we try to dismantle the government, this is the perfect spectacle for the stupidity of our times. Like to throw this in Jerry world and just say, sure, or let's everybody gather around the TV and empty our head with empty calories.

[Roy]

Well, I think, first of all, I think it's going to do bigger than the Brady Roast for the simple reason that you have. There's stakes here. The stakes are, one, how many people want to see Jake Paul just get punched in the face really, really hard? And two is, all right, what is the definition of the upper limit on age for an athlete? Because beyond the people who want to see Jake Paul get knocked out, myself included, there is a curiosity. It's like, okay, Mike Tyson, the most feared man on the planet. Is he still that at 58, should we still fear him in that same way? I'm of the belief, having been face to face, eye to eye with Mike Tyson in a less than friendly environment, that that never fades. It never goes away. He's always gonna be terrifying.

[Jessica]

Wait, you. What happened with you and Mike Tyson?

[Roy]

I've told this story before.

[Jessica]

I'm not familiar. Briefly. Catch me up briefly.

[Roy]

All right, so I'm walking through a bar in Scottsdale, Arizona, and it's really packed. And as you're walking past the bar, there are people leaving the bar, turning around with drinks, right? So as I'm squeezing by, just trying to get through to the back. Someone turns with their drinks. I bump into them. The drink splashes. It splashes all over my face. Tyson, he turns.

[Jessica]

What a nightmare.

[Roy]

He turns around, and this once packed bar all of a sudden is deserted. It's like the wild west. And it's just me and him, and everyone's about 100ft back. And I'm staring at him, and he's staring at me. And he's short. That's what a lot of people don't realize. He's. He's not a tall guy.

[Jessica]

Yeah, Jake Paul's bigger.

[Billy Corben]

I'm bigger.

[Roy]

I'm tall.

[Dan Le Batard]

How short are we talking?

[Roy]

I'm taller than Mike tyson.

[Billy Corben]

He's about 510, I think.

[Roy]

Not 5 10.

[Jessica]

5 10?

[Roy]

Not 5 10.

[Billy Corben]

No one's 5 10.

[Roy]

I'm looking at him, and I thought.

[Billy Corben]

No one's 5 11. I thought. I thought, no one's 511.

[Dan Le Batard]

Some people are 5'11 I don't trust 5 10.

[Billy Corben]

You think he's not 510?

[Roy]

He's not 510 for sure.

[Billy Corben]

What is he listed at? Roy, please.

[Roy]

5'Ten terrifying.

[Jessica]

And I think, like, Jake Paul's up to close to 240 now. When we did MOS Vegas.

[Dan Le Batard]

Feet tall.

[Jessica]

No, when we did Las Vegas, I walked past Jake Paul, who was at the hotel that we were at, and I was stunned at how big this guy was. I did not know that he's bigger than me.

[Roy]

So he's splashed with the drink. I'm looking at him, and the black lights in the bar are making his tattoo, which at this point was still pretty new, glow.

[Jessica]

What a gnarly visual.

[Roy]

Oh, my God. And he's furious. There's nothing. Like, there's no part of this. And it's clear in my face like, I didn't do it, but it's like he's looking at me like I just said, hey, asshole. And I just doused him with a drink. So he's looking at me, and I'm looking at him. He's looking at me. I'm looking at him. I'm like, what do I do? What do I say? What do I do? And somewhere in the back of my mind, something said, amin Mike Tyson converted to Islam. So I say, salaam alaikum, brother. And he grabs me by my forearm and pulls me in real close, real sharply. And his mouth is right by my ear. And he says. And I'm like, ah. Because I thought he was going to bite my ear off. I really did. And then he released me and I scurried away. And the next time I saw Mike Tyson was two years later when my buddy said, hey, we're going to a New Year's party in Vegas. Come to this address. I go, I ring the doorbell and it's Mike Tyson.

[Jessica]

How do you have multiple Mike Tyson?

[Roy]

I have another one.

[Jessica]

He's just in Arizona.

[Roy]

When I was seven years old, I met Mike Tyson. Yeah, it's crazy. I met Mike Tyson like four or five times in my life. Life every time has been a wildly different experience. And there's never a point in this where there's any recognition. Not that he should, but you think.

[Billy Corben]

He should remember his encounters with him.

[Jessica]

Didn't I meet you when you were seven?

[Roy]

You look like a kid I knew once upon a time.

[Billy Corben]

I want to talk about the history of Mike Tyson, but as it applies specifically to the fight that you're going to be watching, the sports of it. Can you guys get for me? I'd asked the production team to find the audio of Mike Tyson's last actual fight. Not the one against Roy Jones Jr. But the last fight of his career where he fought a person who was a really mediocre boxer, a boxer that was a professional but was not in any way any good. And Mike Tyson embarrassed himself. It was a shell of the person that people had been watching for 20 years, even the one who to Buster Douglas, didn't look like this. I don't know if we have the right sound of that interview, but let me hear that interview and do me the favor of finding me the name of the opponent, some of the information about the opponent and when that fight was, because I think this is about 15 years ago or something like that. Mike Tyson telling you he doesn't have the stomach for any of this. Did you want to continue?

[J]

Well, I would like to continue, but I thought I was getting beat on. I realized I don't think I have any anymore because I got the ability to stay in shape, but I don't got the fighting guts, I don't think, anymore.

[Billy Corben]

When did you recognize that? At what part of the fight?

[J]

I don't know. Early into the fight. I'm just sorry I let everybody down. I mean, I just don't have this in my heart anymore.

[Kenny Maine]

Did you feel as though you had it coming into the fight?

[J]

No, I'm just fighting to take care of my bills. Basically. I don't have the stomach for this kind of no more. I got. I'm more conscious of my children and those guys looking at my parents I'm just, I don't have. I don't have that ferocity. I'm not an animal anymore.

[Kenny Maine]

Does that mean we won't see you fight again?

[J]

Yeah, that's most likely. I'm not going to fight again. I'm not going to dis. I'm not going to disrespect the sport anymore by losing this caliber of fighters.

[Billy Corben]

Okay. And what he said at the end, this caliber of fighter, it was shocking to watch that which was Mike Tyson taking a beating the entirety of a fight against somebody who stunk. That was 19 years ago. 19 years ago. That's Mike Tyson talking about losing badly to a mediocre fighter. And so I don't think this will tell us about anything about Jake Paul as a fighter, but I'm genuinely curious about whether Jake Paul can just take a barrage from Mike Tyson. There are different rules for this fight than the normal fight. The gloves are more gentle than normal gloves. The rounds are shorter. There are fewer rounds for this fight fight than a normal fight. But you guys think you're going to see what. Because the betting money keeps coming in on Jake Paul. Correct.

[Jessica]

I dude, Mike Tyson had to stop camp because his body was giving out on him. And there's all sort of ambiguity surrounding the health episode that he had in camp. He's. He's an older man and Jake Paul is in prime physical condition. He just needs to run around for a little bit and Mike Tyson's going to be tired.

[Frankie]

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[Jessica]

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[Frankie]

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