The Big Suey: Wild Willy’s All The Smoke Conclave Update (feat. noted liar David Samson)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Big Suey: Wild Willy’s All The Smoke Conclave Update (feat. Noted Liar David Samson) The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: May 7, 2025

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1. Introduction and Pittsburgh Incident Discussion (00:00 - 05:00)

The episode kicks off with standard advertisements for Home Depot and eBay, promoting spring deals and luxury pre-loved items. Shortly after, Stugotz welcomes guest David Sampson to the show.

Key Discussion: Pittsburgh Game Day Incident

• Stugotz (01:08): Opens with a question about why listeners are tuning into the show.
• David Sampson (01:58): Brings up a recent incident in Pittsburgh where a fan fell out of the stands during a game, resulting in severe injuries (broken back, neck, and clavicle).

Notable Quotes:

• David Sampson (02:28): “There was a fight between a game day employee and a fan. That does not happen every day. And everything seems to be happening to Pittsburgh this season. It's been a nightmare for them.”
• Stugotz (02:37): “Is that a human being falling out of the stands?”
• David Sampson (02:52): “I couldn't be happier. It's Wednesday's my favorite day. Coming on with you guys had a great nothing personal this morning.”

2. Accountability and Responsibility Debate (05:00 - 10:00)

The conversation intensifies as Stugotz questions Sampson's reaction and accountability regarding the Pittsburgh incident.

Key Points:

• Stugotz (05:00): Challenges Sampson on why he found the incident amusing, emphasizing the severity of the injury.
• David Sampson (05:50): Defends his stance by stating the injury was caused by the fan's actions (consumption of two beers) and asserts that the team provided immediate first responder help but accepts no financial responsibility.

Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz (05:14): “A human being fell out of the stands and Sampson is treating it lightly? Are you ever going to take responsibility for something like that?”
• David Sampson (05:50): “I wouldn't even think of paying the medical bills. We provided immediate help and a follow-up PR statement, but it's not our responsibility.”

3. Wild Willie Wednesday and Papal Conclave Segment (10:00 - 20:00)

The show transitions into the “Wild Willie Wednesday” segment, focusing on updates about the papal conclave.

Key Discussion:

• Billy Gill (12:56): Introduces a new segment titled "All the Smoke," providing updates on the papal conclave, mentioning the current favorite candidate.
• Ongoing Banter: The hosts engage in humorous exchanges about the conclave, including jokes about Boris’s beard and the authenticity of updates.

Notable Quotes:

• Billy Gill (12:56): “Welcome to all the Smoke. I'm Billy Gill with your latest update on the papal conclave. At this moment, there is no new Pope.”
• Stugotz (13:24): “Your neck brace like a papal collar.”
• Dan LeBatard (14:00): “It might have happened. I could have been wrong more than two and a half. But let me tell you something. Like accuracy-wise, this is still over 99%.”

4. Boris’s Beard Controversy (10:00 - 35:00)

A recurring theme revolves around the authenticity of Boris Sanchez’s beard, with Dan LeBatard expressing skepticism about whether it’s dyed.

Key Points:

• Dan LeBatard (34:34): Raises doubts about Boris's beard being naturally gray, suggesting it might be dyed.
• Mike Ryan (33:36): Shares an update denying allegations that Boris dyes his beard, mentioning photographic evidence and stating, “Studio lights and shadows make it look dark.”
• Stugotz (36:50): Accuses Sampson of lying about Boris’s beard, claiming they have forensic experts who can verify the truth.

Notable Quotes:

• Dan LeBatard (34:34): “The larger point is I know that beard can't be that naturally dark. Now, it was the lighting in the studio. Thank you, Boris, for your honesty. You've got grays. Way to lean in.”
• Mike Ryan (35:23): “They might have studio lighting, but I have sources who confirm it's natural.”
• Stugotz (36:50): “We have a forensic expert who can vet these things. Jesse can prove your hair is fake.”

5. Host and Guest Tensions Escalate (35:00 - 40:00)

The atmosphere becomes increasingly tense as Stugotz and Dan LeBatard accuse David Sampson of dishonesty.

Key Points:

• Stugotz (37:04): Labels Sampson as a "noted liar," challenging his credibility.
• David Sampson (39:43): Defensively denies being a liar, questioning who accuses him of such.
• Dan LeBatard (39:43): Echoes Stugotz’s accusations, adding that Sampson is a liar both personally and professionally.

Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz (37:04): “Samson, you're bothering people here. Why did you do that?”
• David Sampson (40:25): “By whom? Dan? Everybody.”
• Dan LeBatard (39:30): “He's a noted liar, and I cannot discount the fact that you're just conning me.”

6. Concluding Arguments and Call for Removal (40:00 - 41:17)

The episode concludes with intense arguments, leading to Sampson threatening to leave the show.

Key Points:

• Stugotz (39:52): Continues to push Sampson on his alleged dishonesty, stating that Sampson has misled them.
• David Sampson (41:13): Expresses frustration, suggesting that if the criticism continues, he will stop appearing on the show.
• Final Exchange: The hosts reiterate their distrust, while Sampson remains defensive, hinting at potential legal action.

Notable Quotes:

• Stugotz (40:33): “Everybody.”
• David Sampson (41:13): “I've got divorce attorneys at the ready.”
• Dan LeBatard (41:13): “We didn't get to the review, did we?”
• David Sampson (41:17): “Yes, we did.”

7. Summary and Conclusions

This episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz primarily revolves around a troubling incident at a Pittsburgh game and the subsequent debate over accountability. David Sampson presents a contentious viewpoint, refusing to take financial responsibility for the injured fan, attributing the accident to the individual's actions.

The introduction of the “Wild Willie Wednesday” segment adds a layer of humor and ongoing discussion about conspiracy theories surrounding Boris Sanchez's beard. However, the segment's light-hearted nature quickly sours as accusations of dishonesty surface between the hosts and Sampson.

The episode culminates in heightened tensions, with personal attacks and threats of Sampson's departure, highlighting the volatile dynamics among the show's hosts and guest.

Overall Insights:

• Accountability in Sports Management: The debate underscores the challenges sports teams face in managing fan behavior and ensuring safety.
• Media and Authenticity: The segment on Boris’s beard reflects broader societal concerns about authenticity and the scrutiny public figures face.
• Host Dynamics: The escalating confrontation illustrates the complexities of personality clashes in media settings, potentially impacting listener experience.

Key Takeaways:

• Responsibility vs. Personal Conduct: Sampson's stance emphasizes personal accountability over organizational liability in fan incidents.
• Public Perception and Trust: Accusations of dishonesty can severely damage credibility and listener trust in media personalities.
• Balancing Humor and Seriousness: Incorporating light-hearted segments alongside serious discussions requires careful moderation to maintain audience engagement without trivializing important issues.

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Notable Timestamped Quotes:

• David Sampson (02:28): “There was a fight between a game day employee and a fan. That does not happen every day. And everything seems to be happening to Pittsburgh this season. It's been a nightmare for them.”
• Stugotz (05:14): “A human being fell out of the stands and Sampson is treating it lightly? Are you ever going to take responsibility for something like that?”
• Billy Gill (12:56): “Welcome to all the Smoke. I'm Billy Gill with your latest update on the papal conclave. At this moment, there is no new Pope.”
• Dan LeBatard (34:34): “The larger point is I know that beard can't be that naturally dark. Now, it was the lighting in the studio. Thank you, Boris, for your honesty. You've got grays. Way to lean in.”
• Stugotz (37:04): “Samson, you're bothering people here. Why did you do that?”
• David Sampson (41:13): “I've got divorce attorneys at the ready.”

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This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, tensions, and humorous exchanges of the episode, providing listeners with a clear understanding of the content and dynamics without needing to listen to the full podcast.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugotz]

Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show?

[David Sampson]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Stugotz]

I'm sorry. I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Billy Gill]

This episode is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Stugotz]

And here's David Sampson scratching his eyebrows, already looking annoyed. I don't know why. Why like David, what do you. You come in. You look sour. Are. Are you happy to be at work today?

[David Sampson]

I couldn't be happier. It's Wednesday's my favorite day. Coming on with you guys had a great nothing personal this morning. So much going on. I am jacked up and ready.

[Stugotz]

What was great about nothing personal today?

[David Sampson]

Oh, just being able to talk about what happened in Pittsburgh. So many. So much of my audience was curious and Stu, I, I, I'm sure you didn't hear the show during traffic but you could have. But a lot of talk though. It's not rated anymore so maybe it doesn't come on your feed right. But that. Yes. What? There was a fight between a game day employee and a fan. That does not happen Every day. And everything seems to be happening to Pittsburgh this season. It's been a nightmare for them.

[Stugotz]

There's a lot under the umbrella of everything seems to be happening in Pittsburgh because we didn't even get to the story. Is that a human being falling out of the stands?

[David Sampson]

Yeah, that was a human being who broke his back, neck and clavicle.

[Stugotz]

Why are you laughing during that? Why would you laugh during that transition? I think broke his neck and clavicle. And what else? Like, you can't laugh when you're saying that.

[Billy Gill]

What would have given him, David? Like, what is the. What is the compensation had that happened when you were president?

[David Sampson]

So I got a funny one for you, Billy. Someone contacted me and said, would I pay for. In that situation were I to be president of the team, all of his medical bills? And the answer was no. It wouldn't even be a thought of mine to pay the medical bills. What we did is provide first responder help immediately. Both team trainers were there. We made sure that he got to the hospital in the ambulance. And, you know, a follow up card with a little. A little PR statement saying, we're sorry and we hope you get better, but come on, it's not our responsibility. You can't fall out of the stands no matter how jubilant you are with a Double by Andrew McCutchen. But don't worry, they did the investigation. He had two beers. Only two beers.

[Billy Gill]

Wow. So he was at fault. Is that why you would field teams that wouldn't get exciting, like excitement out of the crowds and I would jump out of the stands by accident?

[David Sampson]

How often do you see that? Exactly.

[Stugotz]

I just don't understand how you're sitting here giggling during. You. You were legitimately giggling, happy, almost broke. I mean.

[David Sampson]

No, stop it, stop it. I'm not giggling, David.

[Stugotz]

Look, if we went back and David, if we went back and played this video right now, this is a pause.

[Dan LeBatard]

You hear a giggle.

[Stugotz]

This is appalling. And you are appalling. You were absolutely giggling. I said, we didn't even get to the video of a human being falling out of the stands and said, yeah, he. He broke his back neck and clavicle. And you were laughing about it.

[David Sampson]

So you accused me when we started four minutes late saying, oh, you look down. Are you happy to be at work? And I was saying, I'm great. Like, everything's good. And then you're like, by the way, a guy almost croaked in the stands. I'm like, yeah, but he didn't. It was just neck, back and clavicle.

[Stugotz]

Now we know why he's mad, Dad. I mean, because you were four minutes late. When's the last time you were late, Samson? When's the last time you were late to anything?

[David Sampson]

I do. I'm not late. But again, I. It doesn't matter. You. You have stuff to do. You have a show to run. I'm very happy.

[Stugotz]

But no, wait a minute. Are you ever late. What do you mean very happy?

[Billy Gill]

Tension here.

[Dan LeBatard]

You have something to do. I'm very happy. We're onboarding, like today, like onboarding the show. Onboarding me and me and onboarding David. Let's.

[Billy Gill]

Let's turn the vibes around me on personal medical information.

[Stugotz]

It's appalling what he's saying. I want you guys to imagine, okay, David Sampson runs the Pirate. A human being has jumped in a video to what could be their death. And instead, thankfully, it was only all these horrible things that will mean limping through the rest of your life, because those things aren't meant to be broken at one time. A horrible fall. How soon would you have arrived with paperwork and lawyers and what would you have offered to get off the hook for? What can possibly be there? As you say, two beers. You had two beers because you went straight to lawyer on. If you've had two beers, that broken back is your fault.

[David Sampson]

Oh, I would take the over on two beers, by the way, for that gentleman. But it doesn't matter because I think he may have been underage, in which case it may have been an issue all the way around. So what I'm doing is I am looking for a settlement of some sort of. Some sort of monetary settlement very quickly in case there's a lawsuit that would come. This is not an autograph batter ball situation. It's not a meet and greet. It's nothing like that. This is when you've got to bring out the checkbook and you've got to try to see what is going on with him and his family. But. But I would make it very clear that we were not at fault. The railings were set to code, that we did everything we were supposed to do, including responding to it immediately with life saving care. But in this world of litigation, we'd have to settle at an amount. But no, I wouldn't want it much higher than five figures.

[Billy Gill]

Can we play a game that I like to call if the shoe is on the other foot. So let's say David Sampson was taking in a Pirates game and he was there, and all of a sudden Pirates are doing well. You get excited and you slip and fall onto the field. What does David Sampson do, first of all?

[David Sampson]

What do you laugh? I've been really excited at games before. I don't know how you.

[Billy Gill]

That.

[David Sampson]

If you look at the video of how it happened. And I don't want to assign blame, though. That's what lawyers do. You actually do in a negligence case, assign what percentage of blame each side has, and that's how you get informed as to what the monetary payment is. But it's impossible to look at that video and say that The Pirates were 100% to blame for what happened. And I don't know if you want to show the video or if we can. I don't want to get us in trouble. We're good because it's graphic. But at the end of the day, if you zero up into it, which. We'd have camera angles and we'd have zoom capabilities. It was not like, hey, like, doing the wave. Like. And then, oh, it doesn't. That's not how it happened.

[Billy Gill]

I don't think you're playing this game right. I don't think that the shoe is on the other foot here. You're still. This is still very much lawyer speak.

[David Sampson]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Like, I don't think you want me.

[David Sampson]

To be the one on my back with raccoon eyes bleeding out of my ears. Yeah, well, what I'd ask for.

[Stugotz]

I don't just want the shoe on the other.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't want the shoe.

[Stugotz]

If.

[Billy Gill]

If you were. What would you do? Because I don't think that the. I don't think the approach you would take was, well, the railing is adequately high for me.

[David Sampson]

I would sue the Pirates. I'd sue mlb, and I'd sue the city of Allegheny. If that's a city or a county. I can't remember. And I love Pittsburgh. But of course, I would sue everyone. I get a lawyer to do it on contingency, and I would. My first offer would be for pain and suffering. I don't know if you saw this lawsuit, one of the great lawsuits of all time. A Colorado Fan sued the NFL for $100 million for emotional trauma, pain and suffering because Shador Sanders went in the fifth round.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah. That's serious.

[David Sampson]

It's a real lawsuit. I'm not making this up. Of course it's not going to win, but I'm going to sue if I'm the one who falls out of the.

[Stugotz]

Small amount of money you're talking about. You arrive with a checkbook, the person's holding their neck and holding their clavic, and they're on a stretcher being taken off, and you are literally saying $4,000.

[David Sampson]

No, I said five figures, Dan. That's 10 grand.

[Stugotz]

Okay, so 10 grand. You're whispering next to the stretcher. We'll give you 10,000.

[David Sampson]

No, no. I'm waiting to make sure he's not dead, so.

[Billy Gill]

Because why waste ten grand if the person's dead? You don't need to give a dead.

[Stugotz]

So wait a minute.

[Dan LeBatard]

So there's an estate.

[Stugotz]

So wait, hold on, hold on. So tell me how this transaction goes. He's hoping for death.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, that's what it sounds like. Honestly.

[David Sampson]

I love Wednesdays. Maybe I should not hope.

[Stugotz]

What are Mike and Amin laughing about? What are Mike and Amin?

[Billy Gill]

Boris is in the conclave here, and.

[Dan LeBatard]

His really dark, dyed beard.

[Billy Gill]

Digital conclave.

[Dan LeBatard]

Virtual conclave.

[Billy Gill]

Boris is a listener.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's the first day of conclave, and I even have a chat devoted to this. You know who the favorite is? A Filipino.

[Billy Gill]

Really? I believe Boris beard is natural.

[Mike Ryan]

I do, too. He's friend of the show man.

[Billy Gill]

David, if you were the pirates, do you take advantage and say, hey, Clemente family. You want your name on this wall? Time to start paying up.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't actually think it's real?

[Stugotz]

Wait, which part it is?

[David Sampson]

Why? Family and the issues. That is real.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is ridiculous.

[Billy Gill]

They wanted their name on that wall.

[Dan LeBatard]

Now.

[Billy Gill]

Someone's fallen off of the wall now.

[David Sampson]

Different part of the wall.

[Billy Gill]

Clemente, he wanted it being on this pirate thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is Brian Wilson levels.

[David Sampson]

Whose beard are you talking about?

[Dan LeBatard]

Mike the dude on. On cnn right now. Virtual conclave.

[Mike Ryan]

Boris Sanchez.

[Stugotz]

Billy Wednesday.

[Billy Gill]

We have. We have. By the way, Dan, if you want to get to it later, we have a segment dedicated to the Papal Conclave.

[Stugotz]

Do we do. Why can't we just do it right.

[Billy Gill]

Now to go to the green screen?

[Stugotz]

What do you mean? Where you're supposed to do it. It's Wild Willie Wednesday.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll go over there.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, I don't know. If we do whatever you want. I'll be over there.

[Stugotz]

Wait a minute. Okay, so just explain to me how Wild Willie Wednesday works.

[Billy Gill]

Toss it over to me when we're all set up.

[Stugotz]

What kind of producing is that? It's his day. You've been hit by a car, like a truck. Billy, I need your. I need your help today.

[Dan LeBatard]

He is helping you. He's going to our own virtual conclave doing a bit.

[Stugotz]

So.

[David Sampson]

No, the only way to make this work, Stu, is that you have to put some dye in your Cigarettes that has white smoke and black smoke.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[David Sampson]

And that the conclave only ends when you are dragging.

[Stugotz]

Can we please do that? Can we.

[David Sampson]

Outcomes.

[Stugotz]

Can we please do no black smoke. Pope Tuesday, Wednesday.

[Mike Ryan]

No, Stu, do not do that. I'm gonna be your lawyer here.

[Stugotz]

Thank you. Don't do that, Okay? I need some help. Chris, you gotta grab the reins on this. All right? Wild Willie Wednesday is. I don't think Wild Willie. Wild Willie Wednesday. Okay. Did we not do any production meetings that asked on Wild Willie Wednesday whether or not Wild Willie actually wanted Sampson around? Because Wild Willie is the only person in our show's history to have won a debate with David Sampson. Ariel Helwani and a whole bunch of other people argued with David Sampson, but they all emotional. And the only one who actually won one time. David Sampson's only talk loss as a lawyer blabbermouth who could talk his way out of anything was to Billy Gill on our air. Because Billy Gill never got emotional. That happened. I saw it happen. Billy grew up right in front of our.

[Mike Ryan]

One time. David got science wrong. Yeah, I remember that.

[David Sampson]

I get things wrong all the time, Dan, so. But it is fun to deal with people who are emotional. It is not difficult at all.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[David Sampson]

For sure.

[Stugotz]

Okay.

[David Sampson]

So you're very emotional.

[Stugotz]

Yes, I am. I wish I were less emotional. That would be better for everybody involved. That's why Billy's neck is broken. Because he's been hit by a suburban. Billy. Billy. What? What is Wild Willie Wednesday in that room? Tell me. Let's ride this bucking bronco into riches and glory.

[Billy Gill]

Okay. Well, Dan, so there's. I don't know if you're aware of. This is a papal conclave going on right now. So, Chris, if you can. We have intro music. We have a new segment. It's called all the Smoke.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is a ridiculous aesthetic for you, Billy. I know it's unintentional, and I'm sorry that you went through that, but it is helping the bit.

[David Sampson]

Call it all the Smoke.

[Billy Gill]

Welcome to all the Smoke. I'm Billy Gill with your latest update on the papal conclave. At this moment, there is no new Pope. Back to you.

[Stugotz]

Thank you. We'll be checking in. Excellent. On Wild Willie Wednesday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Your neck brace like a papal collar.

[David Sampson]

Can we please change the name of that segment, Dan?

[Stugotz]

Why?

[David Sampson]

Oh, I don't know. I think that maybe there's another name that we can use then. All the Smoke.

[Stugotz]

I think we should do all the Smoke. And I think Stugat should wander in smoking heaters.

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's Call it conclave.

[Stugotz]

What is so. I mean, what kind of update are we going to get here in the next few minutes? And how mesmerizing is the beard?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I texted Boris and we're going to get an update pretty soon on whether the beard is or is not dyed.

[Dan LeBatard]

It is. I don't care what Boris says it is.

[Stugotz]

You know what? I don't think Mike gets enough credit here as a real industry leader. On. He is the breaking news leader throughout sports and maybe entertainment. On. Hey, that person's things are fake.

[Mike Ryan]

Not hard to do that, Dan, when you accuse everybody of dying their beard.

[Stugotz]

But he's never been wrong.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've been wrong once.

[Stugotz]

No.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. You know me, I'm not.

[David Sampson]

Twice.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, yeah, David. I asked David. I was curious and I'm still not so sure. Noted. Liar. But Jeff Passon. I got that one wrong.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

I got that one wrong. And like, he FaceTimed me. He walked me through it and he's actually updated me when grays have started peeking through.

[Stugotz]

Walk you through it.

[Dan LeBatard]

How he took offense to it, which if I weren't dying, I would hit me up directly.

[Billy Gill]

Are you dying?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, no. It's very funny. You're very sharp. Wild Willie Wednesday. I kind of like it.

[Stugotz]

Oh, you've never been invited.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, but Jeff Pass him got the FaceTime and he walked me through the follicles. And yeah, I had that one wrong. And I made an on air correction because I'm the first person to admit when I'm wrong, but I'm also the first person to admit when I'm right.

[David Sampson]

Go talk to Jesse. She knows for a fact that I don't dye my hair.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, you let the beard go. When you let the beard go, you lean into the gray. It's very odd that it just decides to stop with the sideburns. A lot of people are like J.D. vance, where it just starts at the sideburns and you gotta try to figure it out. You're an oddity in that way. You're an oddity in a lot of ways.

[David Sampson]

That's. I'm just asking. Ask the hair makeup people. Ask anyone who makes me look like I look today. And hair dye is not one of the things.

[Dan LeBatard]

One and again, I got a hedge against your just noted reputation for lying.

[Mike Ryan]

Everyone else, basically, unless they give you a walkthrough of their hair, you're going to assume you're right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know Boris is dying that beard. I don't know. How old is Boris?

[Billy Gill]

I think so.

[Dan LeBatard]

How old is Boris?

[Mike Ryan]

Around my age, probably 40s.

[Dan LeBatard]

Come on. Come on.

[Stugotz]

Okay, Mike, you're an industry leader. Yes or no?

[Billy Gill]

Mike ryan boyce is 39.

[Stugotz]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. He's dying.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

Sampson, look, we're in the information business.

[Dan LeBatard]

Straight edge.

[Stugotz]

We're in the information business. Jeff Passon is an information insider. Only in media. Now, the information guys are the ones being paid. Mike Ryan is an industry leader in. Hey, your shit's fake. And no one else breaks more stories in this regard anywhere.

[Mike Ryan]

In sports, Dan, this is like saying that Senator McCarthy was an industry leader in catching communists. If everyone's a communist, then, yeah, of course. Of course he's not.

[Stugotz]

But he's not wrong. He's a volume shooter is what Amin is saying.

[Dan LeBatard]

Everyone knows.

[David Sampson]

This is Rockamin.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is my beat. I'm a volume shooter because no one can spot it as many times as I can. I'm the guy. And it's Botox, it's filler, it's teeth, it's everything. All right? It's not just limited. In fact, don't put me in just a hair dye box. Don't put me in that. I literally have Ozempic is, you know, kind of.

[Stugotz]

He doesn't just do hair dye. He does teeth. He does. No, he does an assortment of body parts. Yeah, he's a thorough reporter. I've been.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I don't want to do Ozempic because you never know. Like, I'll be upfront and honest. I did semaglutide two years ago, but this time, slimmed down, au natural. Just replicating it by trying more.

[Stugotz]

No one likes to hear it. That said that.

[Dan LeBatard]

What? Yes, it does.

[Stugotz]

No one liked au natural like, they. Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you seen the photos of Diddy? Look, that guy was running a con for decades.

[Mike Ryan]

Decades. I'll be honest, I never would have.

[Stugotz]

Guessed that was his con.

[Billy Gill]

That was it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. That was his con. Well, I was referring. Well, I hope most people assume the con was a larger thing, but also additionally, I mean, he was dyeing his hair, like, every day.

[Stugotz]

A sidecon.

[Mike Ryan]

Guys, we're on the hairbeat. We're not on the other.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm not on the human trafficking.

[Mike Ryan]

We're on the Hairbeat.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. And by the way, I can't play fast and loose with human trafficking. I need more evidence.

[David Sampson]

The Pope.

[Stugotz]

When are the updates coming on the Pope? It doesn't seem like David likes the Pope. Can we do another segment of all the smoke?

[Dan LeBatard]

David, you don't like the Pope.

[Billy Gill]

David doesn't like the Pope. Well, there is no Pope right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

There is no Pope right now.

[David Sampson]

First of all, there is no Pope. Second of all, I said, I don't like the name.

[Billy Gill]

Why?

[David Sampson]

I don't think we can go with all the Smoke. I wanted to change the name in the best interests of Meadowlark to a different name for the segment where we announce at the end of each day through one of Stu Gotz's heaters whether or not there's been a Pope chosen.

[Mike Ryan]

I just got a text back, not from Boris, but from Dom King. He says the entirety of the smoke, the entirety of it, it's not.

[David Sampson]

It's not as terrible. I mean, and Stu Gotz. The only problem with this is that you have to stay longer throughout the day because the conclave at the end of the day, they decide whether they got one or not. They do a vote, which you know from watching the movie, which I'm sure you watched. But the time difference is such that you'd have to stay until about 1:00 Eastern Time. And I know that that can be problematic.

[Stugotz]

Sampson, just out of curiosity, because they're.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sitting here saying, what about Holy Smoke?

[Stugotz]

Ooh, Holy Smoke is better.

[David Sampson]

Now we're talking.

[Billy Gill]

I like all the Smoke.

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[Stugotz]

Don LeBatard where the motherfucker Ruiz at?

[Dan LeBatard]

Bring his ass on here.

[Stugotz]

Where's the mother? Ruiz is a great question. Stugats running, huh?

[Mike Ryan]

He running today, huh?

[Stugotz]

I'm ready.

[Billy Gill]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Aren't we friends with all this folks?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, always. Well, except for Paul Pierce who's occasionally around that shit.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, what's going on?

[Dan LeBatard]

He can go kick rocks. I'll tell him to his face.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, routinely.

[Stugotz]

While also boycotting him and going to other places to not see his face.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, don't. Don't do that to me. No one has told Paul Pierce sucks more to his face.

[Stugotz]

That's true. Okay, congratulations.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've done that multiple. I ain't ducking Paul Pierce. When I duck out of here, it's because I can't stand the sight of.

[David Sampson]

The man he happens to be. Mike. A great guy in real life.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's not. He's not. No, he's not.

[Mike Ryan]

He's a dear friend.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's a. A. He's a terrible basketball player.

[Stugotz]

Fun guy, Worst person.

[David Sampson]

No, he's actually not. And a little. A little nugget about Paul Pierce. He likes when you call him Daddy.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, I didn't know that.

[Billy Gill]

Well, maybe I'm not spending time with Paul Pierce.

[Mike Ryan]

Maybe I'm not as good a friend of Paul Pierce as I was.

[Stugotz]

What is this loon giggling about?

[Dan LeBatard]

About? Thank you for smoking.

[Stugotz]

What do you mean he likes when you call him Daddy? What kind of contribution is that? You grinning, you grinning fool?

[David Sampson]

Are you Paul Pierce?

[Stugotz]

David. What's that? What are you. What are you snorting in the middle of the segment where you're. Where you're saying that about Paul Pierce? What's the matter with you?

[Dan LeBatard]

Answer the man's question.

[Stugotz]

Answer it.

[David Sampson]

Calling someone daddy and making sweet, passionate love are two totally different things.

[Stugotz]

Yes or no, Wednesday.

[David Sampson]

Sometimes no. I'm that.

[Mike Ryan]

Put it on the pole.

[Stugotz]

You're hard, but on the pole is.

[Mike Ryan]

Making sweet, passionate love and calling someone daddy different.

[Stugotz]

I don't even understand what you just did there. Samson, please. I've got two questions for you, okay? And they're important. Answer them honestly. Honestly. Why did you do that?

[David Sampson]

Which part, Dan?

[Stugotz]

All right, start with. Let me. Let me go back for a second, okay? Because I beginning to.

[Dan LeBatard]

You boning poll peers.

[Stugotz]

Yeah. No, I'd like to get away from that, thank you. Watching this is horrific. Like the chair.

[Billy Gill]

David.

[Stugotz]

All right, here we go. Here we go. This is what I was afraid of. This is what I was afraid of.

[David Sampson]

Wild Willie.

[Stugotz]

Wednesday, I don't want all the smoke. Wow, Billy. Wednesday, I don't want all the smoke with Paul Pierce. Yes. Mike wants to fight Paul Pierce. Mike was. Mike was going to go do a party a year ago, two years ago, where he showed up to Paul Pierce's party in a wheelchair. No one has done more in Paul Pierce's face to tell him he sucks on behalf of Miami than Mike Ryan. That is true. That cannot be disputed. Paul Pierce doesn't want that smoke. He hasn't wanted that smoke. And frankly, I Think Mike Ryan has accused him of veneers.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he dyes his hair to his face.

[Stugotz]

Wow.

[Dan LeBatard]

To his face. And he hasn't denied it. He wore it. He wore it. He wore it like a champ. He's like, you got me.

[Stugotz]

It's a winning move.

[Dan LeBatard]

Small credibility.

[Stugotz]

You wear veneers is a great move. It's a real humbler in debate.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, they're not doing it for people not to notice.

[Stugotz]

Right?

[Dan LeBatard]

What is the con they're trying to prove? Like, oh, my teeth got better on their own. Like, get out of here. You got the veneers. I'm gonna call them. Don't deny it.

[Billy Gill]

Don't, don't.

[Stugotz]

It's unnecessary. It's too vain of you to tell everybody I see your fake teeth. That's a BS Er.

[Dan LeBatard]

I've got one, Cap.

[Stugotz]

Sampson, the other question I wanted to ask you. Noted. Liar. When you point at Stugatz and you say of this papal series that everyone is watching Conclave Stugat. Which I'm sure you've watched. When you tell Stugot. I'm sure you've watched it, you say it with the smug, this smugness of knowing I watched. He's. With the smugness of. He wasn't listening to you. You know he wasn't listening to you. And when you say Stugatz, I'm sure you've watched. You're lying.

[David Sampson]

No, that's called sarcasm. Yes, I got totally different than. Than line. But I, I. If you'd like to conflate the two, then we can. But what I was saying is Stu is so busy doing God knows what.

[Stugotz]

Football. Not God knows what. It's God bless God knows. Yeah, God knows. God knows. God knows football.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jesus.

[Stugotz]

What is the matter with you? It's God bless Football. It's not God knows what. It's a totally different podcast.

[David Sampson]

I'm on that guy information. Stu, I thought that you had started God knows what.

[Stugotz]

God knows what is a totally better podcast. Billy. Buy the domain name before ESPN steals it from you. God knows what.

[Billy Gill]

ESPN's not who I'm worried about stealing it from me.

[Stugotz]

Let's do. Is it Samson you're worried about stealing it from you?

[David Sampson]

I already own it.

[Stugotz]

While we were talking God knows.

[David Sampson]

I'm very busy right now.

[Stugotz]

Wait a minute. You bought the domain name God knows what to compete against God Bless football right now. Now.

[David Sampson]

Hey, Brett, I'm on the air live. Could you please go by God knows what? The domain name.

[Stugotz]

You said you already did it.

[David Sampson]

Get that.

[Stugotz]

You said you already did it.

[David Sampson]

One, two, three. Brett live right now. There he is. God knows what. Please go secure that.

[Mike Ryan]

I better secure the smoke right now.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know that scene in Pulp Fiction? Check out the big brain on Brad. But Samuel L. Jackson by mistake in that scene. Mix up the name of the character. He calls him both Brad and Brett.

[Billy Gill]

Wow.

[Stugotz]

Can one of you please put up on the poll? Here at Lebatard show is making sweet, passionate love and calling someone daddy different. 58% so far say yes. That means we already put that up on the poll. Yes. Yeah, well, Amin asked for it, so that was. That was quick work. Okay.

[David Sampson]

That's what we do.

[Stugotz]

You ask for something. You know, I just. I'm not used to things happening that quickly around here.

[David Sampson]

We have an answer quickly. Do we? Do we own it?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it's taken.

[David Sampson]

It's taken.

[Stugotz]

Yes. Way to go, Fell.

[Billy Gill]

Good job, Brad.

[Stugotz]

You won one again. God knows what the.

[Mike Ryan]

That's right. Dan Leitard. I got the domain before anyone could move expeditiously on it. Tom Kang. Strictly in the United States.

[Stugotz]

It's thought.

[Billy Gill]

That was baby Billy.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's got something in his mouth this time.

[Stugotz]

It was slobbery. It was slobbery.

[Mike Ryan]

I was excited it came.

[Stugotz]

That was funny. Your Baby Billy's pretty good. I didn't know you did one of those.

[Mike Ryan]

I did. For Halloween.

[Stugotz]

Samson, you're bothering people here. Because. What?

[David Sampson]

Here we go once again, Dan. What?

[Stugotz]

Transition. Why?

[Dan LeBatard]

I think this one's gone pretty well. I mean, he told us he's banging Paul Pierce. Revelatory.

[Stugotz]

The truth.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugotz]

Called Brett.

[David Sampson]

I'm sick and tired of your criticisms, Dan. Just stop having me on the show then. Every week, it's like you. All you do is you ruin the show. You listen to your three haters out there. You ruin the show.

[Mike Ryan]

There's more of us than three.

[Stugotz]

You married this David?

[Dan LeBatard]

Do you have a review or something?

[David Sampson]

Believe me, I've got divorce attorneys at the ready.

[Dan LeBatard]

You got a review for us or something?

[David Sampson]

I do. Anything.

[Stugotz]

You want to get rid of him?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, no, I just want to, you know, not default to. He sucks. I mean, we've covered that crowd.

[Billy Gill]

He seems to not be having a lot of fun.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, it's a Wild Willy Wednesday, and I'm not usually here on Wednesday. And you know what? I've missed out on all the David Sampson reviews, and he actually has got quite good taste.

[Billy Gill]

We rarely get to them. It's a lot of just the criticism.

[David Sampson]

It's been something, Billy. It's been. I've. I've had four weeks in a row of not getting to the review. This one hit hard, though. I don't know if anyone watched the four seasons, the eight episodes.

[Stugotz]

I've seen the first half of it because it's got so many good people in it and they're trying, but the writing seems a bit stiff and predictable.

[David Sampson]

So the part that really hit home is when Steve Carell leaves his wife for a younger woman and tries to bring the younger woman in on the. On the couple's trip. And it ends up becoming sort of a nightmare in all sorts of ways. So I resembled some of this show while also longing for the days of Alan Alda, because it's based on a movie that Alan Alda did back in 1981 and that many people I'm sure haven't heard of. And the concept is if you go away with the same four couples every year, and of course, they updated it because now one of the couples is a gay couple with Colman Domingo, and it's updated from the movie, and it's fantastic in that regard because couples can't go away and get along year after year because things change and marriages change and relationships change. And if you can find people you actually like to travel with, you got to hold on to that as long as you can, because there are many, many people who are not compatible in that way. And this series talks about how you go through changes in people's lives while still trying to stay together as a group of friends.

[Stugotz]

I haven't liked the first half of it. Would you recommend it?

[David Sampson]

No, not unless you're divorced with a younger girlfriend. So if you're in that category, then I would do it. If you're not in that category, you can skip it. Or if you're older, you dye your hair and you're thinking of getting divorced because you want to be with a younger girl, then you should watch the last four episodes.

[Stugotz]

All right.

[David Sampson]

Or if you're already with a younger girl, then you can watch younger.

[Stugotz]

Younger woman. Younger woman.

[David Sampson]

Woman. Thank you. Sorry.

[Stugotz]

Yes.

[Billy Gill]

Depends how young. I suppose I would go for a woman. David.

[Stugotz]

David, if someone broke their. Went beyond breaking their neck at Marlins park and died falling out of the bleachers, would you attend their funeral?

[David Sampson]

No. No, no, David. And we would make sure that wouldn't happen because no one was ever in the bleachers.

[Billy Gill]

It's a fair point.

[Stugotz]

Okay. But I'm saying that if something happens on your watch and that person dies, is that. Forgive me, Chris. I didn't. It just broke out. Out of nowhere.

[Dan LeBatard]

It just broke, mind you, to do that.

[Stugotz]

I've already done it. I've never done it twice in a segment time.

[Dan LeBatard]

If they mentioned Paul Pierce again, you say the truth.

[Stugotz]

I've never done it twice.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's a wild.

[Billy Gill]

David.

[Stugotz]

No. That was amazing to watch in person, where Mike just throws Stugatz a lasso. StuGotz catches it two seconds late and Stugats. His reaction to Mike was, I did the watch. Kind of bored in two seconds too late. Ten minutes ago. And you didn't catch it.

[David Sampson]

We all left.

[Dan LeBatard]

You don't want to do a Pearl Jam Thursday set. I need the Saturday set.

[Stugotz]

Well, can we talk about this for a second? Because have you and Sampson had this argument? Have you and Samson. No, no, no.

[Dan LeBatard]

Look, Pearl Jam's entitled to do whatever they want with their shows. They want to play the same city two times and do a shitty set list one night, that's their prerogative. And it's my prerogative to be disappointed by it and just be disappointed that, frankly, I picked the wrong night.

[Stugotz]

All right, no, but wait a minute. You've calmed it down. But you came in here with.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, they should be arrested for what they did to me.

[Stugotz]

I mean, I gave you nothing on Thursday.

[Dan LeBatard]

Have you seen my travel schedule lately? I had to carve out time for that.

[Mike Ryan]

Dan, we've got an update.

[Stugotz]

Oh, boy.

[Mike Ryan]

From not quite the Conclave, but from close to it. Boris Sanchez has checked in.

[Stugotz]

Oh, man.

[Mike Ryan]

And he is denying all allegations.

[Stugotz]

Oh, my God.

[Mike Ryan]

Saying absolutely bleeping not. Studio lights and shadows make it look dark. And he sent photographic evidence of such. I'm trying to get it uploaded right now into the system to let everyone know he's got. Cause the picture I'm looking at here, I'm seeing some grays. Dan.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yep. That's. That's admirable of him. And I will wear it. I am constantly. The trickiest thing about doing this beat is the Turner Lights. The Turner Lights are a problem watching. Well, Kenny Smith is ridiculous. We all know that one. What? But watching their NHL coverage, I'm constantly asking, is Biz dyeing his beard? And he's constantly blaming the lights. Now, Lundqvist has tried to use that as an excuse, too, but.

[Mike Ryan]

Get out of here with this mike.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, he's got. He's got plenty of grades. Like, if I saw that on tv.

[Billy Gill]

But that's free dye job, so.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hold on.

[Mike Ryan]

That's live. That's a live shot.

[Billy Gill]

No, it's not live. He's wearing a T shirt there. Yeah, just in the conclave.

[Mike Ryan]

He just got. He's off air now. That's what's happening.

[Dan LeBatard]

Touch it up in post.

[Mike Ryan]

But here's the question. Here's the question. Mike, does this now give us two and a half times you've been wrong?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, yes. Look, if the lights fool me, the lights fool me. But, I mean, the larger point is I know that beard can't be that naturally dark. Now, it was the lighting in the studio and straight up. Thank you, Boris, for your honesty. You've got grays. Way to lean in. Had that one wrong. But the general sentiment was it's impossible for his beard to be that dark at that age. So there was something going on there. It was just television. Performance enhancing.

[Billy Gill]

Can I give Boris a piece of advice?

[Mike Ryan]

Sure.

[Billy Gill]

Dye your beard looks terrible. What? Honestly, if you are gonna accuse you of dying it and you're just looking, might as well look bad just to prove him wrong. Just diet. Who cares?

[Mike Ryan]

Here's my thing, though. But, Mike, how many times have you accused people of dyeing their beard? And maybe it was just studio lighting the whole time.

[Dan LeBatard]

It might have happened. I could have been wrong more than two and a half. But let me tell you something. Like. Like accuracy wise, this is still over 99%. I'll stack my credibility up against anybody else.

[Stugotz]

You know what? Hold on a second. Because Mike's doing this thing where he's being a different kind of journalist these days. Hybrid journalist. What?

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm telling you, non journalist, non journalist, insider.

[Stugotz]

No, but this is. Look, whatever the Journalism insider business is, that is Jeff Passen and Adam Schefter and Jay Glazer risking mental health issues and Woj to get you the information first on a Wild Willie Wednesday. I can't believe that Mike's not giving you any of his sources here because he's not giving up his sources. And what no one knows is that Mike, this has been part of the Meadowlark budget. Mike has on staff a forensic sort of expert who works with us every day and can vet these things out. And after much research and I'm sorry to do this to you, David, it. Jesse. I think Jesse might be able to prove for us that your hair, that that's fake. What you're doing up there, you'll claim all the time that it's real and you are not one of the places where Mike got it wrong.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, he's not.

[David Sampson]

You're 100% wrong. This is not a hill you want to die on. You don't want to test this because you will lose. And I have already. Thank you, Stu. God. It's supposed to let it go. You're supposed to just let it say anything.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, I believe David because maybe it's.

[Billy Gill]

Studio lighting in David's house, perhaps.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, it just. Look, I've. I've gotten right up there while David's talking to people, and I've seen the. Yeah, down there. I've seen the back. I'm like. The coloring's a little off. Daddy, I don't understand.

[Stugotz]

Please stop doing that. Just please. What are you doing?

[Dan LeBatard]

He would go all the way with it. He would go. That was a short joke, not a. I would never.

[Stugotz]

No, he did it again with the daddy. He's creeping me out with the daddy and the grin.

[Billy Gill]

Do you call Paul Pierce Daddy when you see him? Like, hey, Daddy again to Paul Pierce? No, no one said anything about. Just ask. He just asked about Paul Pierce Daddy. I'm just calls in that.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, he likes to be called Daddy, so I call him Daddy. Big deal.

[Stugotz]

No, see, this is what.

[Billy Gill]

Not that.

[Dan LeBatard]

My bad.

[Stugotz]

This is. Jesse, get in here. Jesse, get in here. I don't believe anything that's happening here. Look, Samson's got this cone, this helmet of dye hair. Like, this is a helmet. This is a baseball helmet of black hair. No one ages this way. He's in his late 50s. You don't get gray hair. Do you guys? Have you guys seen a lot of gray in the beard? Totally gray beard. And then not a gray hair in the black. I don't know whether David Sampson is or isn't dying or lying, but, Mike Ryan, are you willing to stake your information journalist?

[Dan LeBatard]

I know that David doesn't dye his hair. He dies. He doesn't dye his beard either. He's. I believe him when he says this. I believe him.

[Stugotz]

But you got Jesse right here.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't understand. Like, I believe him. Like, why would you.

[Stugotz]

Why would you believe him when you have somebody that isn't more of a.

[Dan LeBatard]

Place you can co sign more?

[Mike Ryan]

This is. This is high drama, man. We got a witness for the state that comes in.

[Stugotz]

What kind of journalism are you doing where you say, I believe him, and we have.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm doing actual journalism. I've gotten up in there. What kind of journalism are you doing right there? You're trying to attack me from my sources. I have reported. I initially had reported that David Sampson dyes his hair. Then I did my own inspection, and after more thorough investigation, I retracted the report and corrected it like a true insider.

[David Sampson]

Then why is it Only a half. Why didn't that count as a full?

[Dan LeBatard]

Because you're a noted liar, and I cannot discount the fact that you're just. You're just conning me.

[Stugotz]

Right?

[David Sampson]

He has to re.

[Stugotz]

He has to leave room in the event that you are indeed lying.

[Dan LeBatard]

Got ahead jurisdiction.

[Billy Gill]

Yes.

[Stugotz]

That's what he does. What does it happen when noted liar Sampson meets noted liar Stugatz? And we're trying to do an investigation here. And Sampson can tell you.

[Dan LeBatard]

You.

[Stugotz]

Jesse is on staff and. And she would reveal to you. The people who make the makeup cost the most are David Sampson and Mike Ryan. Don't. What are you shaking your head about? What are you. What.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why?

[David Sampson]

For the 15 days a year that I'm in the studio, you're allocating the majority of the makeup budget.

[Stugotz]

I don't know what she paints you.

[Mike Ryan]

With a lot, whatever it is.

[Stugotz]

And I don't know if it's your hair. God knows if you go in there and you just have, like, orange hair that she paints every day with whatever lacquer she puts on your head.

[Billy Gill]

Can I just. Before Jesse takes a stand, note that a lot of, you know, makeup artists have to sign NDAs. So it's possible that she's not going to tell us the real information, that David has already silenced her because she'll have big clients and can't really give us all of the info here.

[Mike Ryan]

David does strike me as the kind of guy who takes the extra step of making someone sign an NDA before they work on him.

[Stugotz]

What can the.

[David Sampson]

Glad I strike you as that, Amin, but it's just not quite the case.

[Stugotz]

You're a noted liar.

[David Sampson]

By whom?

[Stugotz]

Who?

[David Sampson]

Dan?

[Stugotz]

Everybody.

[David Sampson]

Are you. Are you speaking on behalf of my kids, my ex wife? Like, who are you talking about?

[Stugotz]

Everybody.

[Dan LeBatard]

Miami Dade County. Everybody.

[Stugotz]

Everybody.

[Billy Gill]

Everybody.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a good one, Marlins fans.

[David Sampson]

Oh, another good one. Thank you. Anyone else?

[Dan LeBatard]

So why there are literally thousands, tens of thousands.

[Stugotz]

Tens of thousands.

[David Sampson]

Millions.

[Stugotz]

Hundreds of thousands.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, that's just a tax. Marlins fans. There's about scores.

[Stugotz]

You.

[David Sampson]

You countries.

[Stugotz]

You object to the reputation that you have as a noted liar.

[David Sampson]

I don't have that reputation, except when I am lucky enough and thankful enough to do your show because I feel such gratefulness toward you. Talk to my agent, Lou, that way.

[Billy Gill]

Thanks, Jesse.

[Dan LeBatard]

We didn't get to the review, did we?

[David Sampson]

Yes, we did.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, yeah. Four Seasons. I tuned it out.