The Big Suey: WOOOOP!

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: The Big Suey: WOOOOP!

Release Date: January 31, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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1. Welcome and Initial Banter

The episode kicks off with the hosts engaging in their signature humorous banter, setting a light-hearted tone for the show. Mike Ryan shares a humorous anecdote about almost fainting upon receiving four free Samsung Galaxy A16 5G phones from Metro, leading to playful exchanges about the allure of such deals.

Notable Quote:
Mike Ryan [00:44]: "I almost fainted when the four new bombshells arrived."

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2. The Glory Holes Conversation

A significant portion of the episode delves into a humorous yet candid discussion about "glory holes." The hosts navigate the fine line between appropriateness and comedy, sharing personal discomforts and experiences related to the topic.

Notable Quotes:
Billy Corben [02:03]: "But also voices in my head, because this is a bit of a control station."
Mike Ryan [03:55]: "Glory holes at work, eh? I don't like it for Meadowlark. I don't like it for the Dallas Cowboys."

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3. Discussing the TV Show "Landman" Featuring Jerry Jones

The hosts analyze an episode of the television show "Landman," highlighting Jerry Jones's cameo. They humorously dissect whether Jones believed he was participating in a documentary or acting, emphasizing the blurred lines between reality and fiction in media portrayals.

Notable Quotes:
Chris Cote [05:16]: "Landman is a television show on the Paramount Plus network... about the people in the oil industry in Texas."
Mike Ryan [05:58]: "Did he think that that person was really on his deathbed and he was just giving some words of wisdom?"

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4. Elbow Lotioning and Personal Care Humor

A recurring humorous segment where the hosts discuss the seemingly trivial but relatable topic of elbow lotioning. This light-hearted conversation serves as a comedic break, with each host sharing their own experiences and poking fun at workplace norms.

Notable Quotes:
Billy Corben [07:04]: "Something I have never seen before in my history in this business."
Mike Ryan [07:58]: "It's a privilege. And again, I don't think no."

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5. Reflection on Dwyane Wade’s Battle with Kidney Cancer

The discussion takes a more serious turn as the hosts reflect on Dwyane Wade's public battle with kidney cancer. They draw parallels to other athletes like Randy Moss and Alonzo Mourning, emphasizing the vulnerability and mortality even among the most celebrated athletes. The conversation underscores the importance of health awareness and advocacy.

Notable Quotes:
Dan LeBatard [21:00]: "I'm just grateful that Dwyane Wade spoke about this so publicly... Dwyane Wade talked about Alonzo and all of this."
Billy Corben [22:13]: "He was playing himself. Let's get that clip."

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6. Critique of the Dollar Store Concept

The hosts engage in a spirited debate sobre the evolving concept of dollar stores, expressing frustration over price inflation and perceived false advertising. They share personal anecdotes and opinions on the quality and value of dollar store products, blending humor with genuine critique.

Notable Quotes:
Billy Corben [10:08]: "Let me just explain to everybody... you cannot make it a dollar store. If you stop charging a dollar, it ceases to be."
Dan LeBatard [11:31]: "I love the dollar store."

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7. Mike Ryan’s Memorable NFL Touchdown

A highlight of the episode features Mike Ryan recounting a pivotal moment in his NFL career—a game-winning touchdown against the Cleveland Browns. He vividly describes the emotions, the play's execution, and the subsequent media acclaim, providing listeners with an insider’s perspective on the highs and lows of a professional athlete's life.

Notable Quotes:
Mike Ryan [41:02]: "I can't believe it... that's not wrong if I gave you the true answer."
Chris Cote [43:16]: "This is what made you millions of dollars and allows you to sit right here and crack jokes."

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8. Tyler Herro’s All-Star Selection Discussion

The hosts congratulate Tyler Herro on his first All-Star selection, reflecting on his growth and resilience amidst previous criticisms and trade rumors. They compare Herro's journey to other players, highlighting his efficiency and consistency as key factors in his recognition as an All-Star.

Notable Quotes:
Dan LeBatard [51:10]: "That's right. It's the first All Star selection for Tyler Herro."
Billy Corben [52:42]: "He is Internet polarizing."

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9. Light-Hearted Ending and Final Remarks

As the episode winds down, the hosts return to their playful banter, teasing each other about participation and contributions to the show. They also touch upon upcoming content and accolades within their community, maintaining the episode’s upbeat and engaging atmosphere.

Notable Quotes:
Billy Corben [50:20]: "But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf. That is his belly stugats."
Andrew Hawkins [54:16]: "Let's not talk about it, putting up."

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Conclusion

This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" masterfully blends humor, personal anecdotes, and serious reflections on sports and life. From light-hearted discussions about everyday topics like dollar stores and elbow lotioning to deeper conversations about athlete health and personal achievements, the hosts deliver a well-rounded and engaging experience for their audience.

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Note: All timestamps correspond to the provided transcript and may not reflect the actual podcast timing.

Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugatz]

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[Mike Ryan]

Welcome to Nadia Yada island, next on.

[Chris Cote]

Metro's Nadia Yada island podcast.

[Mike Ryan]

I almost fainted when the four new bombshells arrived. Four free Samsung Galaxy A16 5G phones at Metro.

[Andrew Hawkins]

No way.

[Billy Corben]

And finding out the fourth line is free.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Thanks God Heated.

[Mike Ryan]

That's wild.

[Chris Cote]

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[Roy Bellamy]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Billy Corben]

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to.

[Chris Cote]

The other Dan LeBatard podcast?

[Billy Corben]

I'm sorry.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not gonna apologize for that.

[Billy Corben]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys.

[Mike Ryan]

I've done it.

[Chris Cote]

And now here's the marching man to nowhere, Fat face and the habitual liar.

[Roy Bellamy]

This episode of the Dan Lebatard show with Stugatz is presented by DraftKings. DraftKings. The Crown is yours.

[Billy Corben]

There's a very low percentage of this.

[Mike Ryan]

That is smiles and glory holes. Very low percentage.

[Billy Corben]

Closed his eyes, made a wish still McCarthy said goodbye his shot in Heimer Jerry's guy we're gonna contemplate all through the night Chance of smiles There's a guy Chicago can but be behind him we will stand all of the hope he'll bring if he's up to the task I'll take Eber Floose. Yeah, he's got the juice get the defense right Glory hole is in sight I'll take Eberfluss but if we still lose then it's eardos and throat I'm at doctor school. I'll take evil. I have during this show an assortment of voices in my head Already, because I'm crazy. But also voices in my head, because this is a bit of a control station. And Lewis, three notes into that song, said, my glory hole song was better. Where is Lewis's glory hole song?

[Dan LeBatard]

No, he was just running around singing popular from Wiccan glory holes. A song about glory holes.

[Roy Bellamy]

And that is where the appropriate line stopped from his song. It got very inappropriate from there. So, yeah, that is why we have not got.

[Dan LeBatard]

But it was great.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, but inappropriate is okay. Inappropriate is also. Is also funny. Inappropriate. We like to get a little close to inappropriate. I don't think all comedy is appropriate. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Workplace. And I don't know. It's a fine line, Dan. I mean, you're toying with it, brother. Glory holes at work, eh? I don't like it for Meadowlark. I don't like it for the Dallas Cowboys. I'll be honest with you.

[Chris Cote]

What are we doing? Why are we making glory holes?

[Mike Ryan]

Why are we making this?

[Chris Cote]

Look, a man made his fortune as a landman. You guys saw the show. All he wants to do is hang out with his family looking for glory holes.

[Mike Ryan]

Glory holes.

[Chris Cote]

That's all it's about. It's about family and glory holes.

[Mike Ryan]

Not any. Not what I looked up on the Internet. I mean, well, okay, that's not his fault. None of it was about family.

[Billy Corben]

Are you uncomfortable right now?

[Mike Ryan]

I have not about glory holes. Yes, I'm very. Am I uncomfortable because we're talking about glory holes?

[Billy Corben]

Jerry Jones was talking about them.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that. And you're like, it's okay to be inappropriate. What?

[Chris Cote]

He wasn't being inappropriate. He was talking about glory holes. Like.

[Billy Corben]

Like.

[Chris Cote]

Like a Landman does glory holes.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Hawk doesn't know what you're talking about.

[Chris Cote]

You don't know Landman.

[Mike Ryan]

There's a.

[Andrew Hawkins]

There's an actual, like, definition for glory holes.

[Chris Cote]

It's not, you know, Landman is a television show.

[Mike Ryan]

The song Landman. That's why we're still on this bid, is because we're talking about what's been.

[Chris Cote]

Landman is a television show on the Paramount plus network. Right.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Chris Cote]

And it's Billy Bob Thornton. It's Jon Hamm. It's about the people in the oil industry in Texas.

[Dan LeBatard]

Right.

[Mike Ryan]

Go on.

[Chris Cote]

And so one of the episodes has a cameo by Jerry Jones, who, of course, made his nut in the oil business. Right.

[Mike Ryan]

And is that an oil term, too?

[Chris Cote]

Made his nut?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Is that like a Look, Is there a definition there, Mike? An official for nut made his nut.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

Go ahead. Thank you.

[Billy Corben]

So we'll ask Andrew Zimmern about that later in the show.

[Chris Cote]

So, yes, he does this, right? He comes in, he does, and he gives this great speech to Jon Hamm, whose character's in the hospital. He's like, on his. He had a heart attack, and he's got the beep, the defibrillator and all that stuff happening in the background.

[Billy Corben]

It's great acting by Jerry Jones.

[Chris Cote]

Great acting in a room with Billy Bob Thornton and Jon Hamm. Jerry Jones is the best actor in the room.

[Mike Ryan]

Did he know that it was a show?

[Chris Cote]

I don't think so. I think he thought it was a documentary.

[Mike Ryan]

Did he think that that person was really on his deathbed and he was just giving some words of wisdom and they were like, keep the cameras rolling.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Landman to Landman.

[Billy Corben]

They totally tricked him.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. I mean, and so he.

[Chris Cote]

He tell. He talks about what this business is all about, about your family. I didn't buy the Dallas Cowboys for anything else. I want to work with my kids. I want to surround myself with my kids for the rest of my life. Like, they gives us great.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, this is acting. This is acting. That sounds a lot like Jerry Jones's real life.

[Billy Corben]

He was playing himself. Let's get that clip.

[Chris Cote]

Congratulations.

[Billy Corben]

It's amazing enough acting that it is worth re exploring, even though it's two minutes long, because it's not short, this clip with Jerry Jones. But I do want to show Andrew how well acted this is. Find that at your earliest convenience. I know, Chris, that I have you spinning a lot of plates today. You will forgive me. I don't know how you've recovered from the arduous first few minutes before the show when you were having your elbows lotioned by the makeup person. Something I have never seen before in my history in this business.

[Roy Bellamy]

I mean, I didn't know I needed it, but apparently this week, it's been a thing with Jesse, our lovely makeup artist. She.

[Mike Ryan]

We.

[Roy Bellamy]

She told us that. Hey, guys. The elbows, not great.

[Billy Corben]

I can't believe this is a company of dry elbows.

[Mike Ryan]

She does it all to America's because there's not a single day that a black person doesn't have to lotion their elbows.

[Roy Bellamy]

I've never done it before.

[Mike Ryan]

Before today, black people lotion their elbows daily.

[Chris Cote]

Roy, have you ever had anyone at work tell you that your elbows need lotion?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I wear long sleeves.

[Chris Cote]

There you go.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Dan's had Lubriderm CQ behind his desk for 20 years.

[Billy Corben]

I apply it myself, though. I've never had anyone apply it for me.

[Andrew Hawkins]

You're A long sleeve man.

[Billy Corben]

Andrew, can you tell me whether a makeup person has ever lotioned your elbows for you? Because I do view that as a luxury I have not seen in the vanity industry before. When I looked up and our executive producer was sitting in that seat with his elbows up, just allowing himself to be lotion.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a privilege. And again, I don't think no. The answer is just very plainly. No one's ever lotioned my elbows. But then again, to me, that would be like, has anybody ever brushed your teeth? Because that's how a part of my daily routine, lotioning my elbows is.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean, a dentist, right?

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, they've never been like, hey, let me brush your teeth. Absolutely not.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Teeth cleaning, they never do like the pass with a mechanical brush at the. Like the fluoride.

[Billy Corben]

The fluoride. A little bit of the fluoride at the end, just to give you a nice touch.

[Chris Cote]

Hog grabs and says, I'll take care.

[Mike Ryan]

He brush my teeth.

[Chris Cote]

Does it himself.

[Mike Ryan]

It's like jail rules, man. You never let somebody brush your teeth.

[Billy Corben]

What's what.

[Mike Ryan]

Never let a man brush your teeth, bruh.

[Billy Corben]

Put. Put it on the. Are jail rules that you never let another man brush your teeth? Were you. I heard you in the other room talking about both being in the dollar store. And then soon thereafter you said something about your teeth. Were those two things connected?

[Mike Ryan]

Yes. So I was biting my fingernail right before I went on air espn and I. My veneer cracked. I have a veneer and it cracked in half. And I panicked and I went to go, there's a Dollar General right by the ESPN studio. And I went to go get some superglue. And I'm like, this might not be smart. I should Google whether I should put super glue in my mouth and chat. GPT said no again. At the time, I didn't know it was racially biased. So I didn't go too much deeper. But then I said, you know what? Let me see about denture bond. And so I got some denture bond bonded that thing on for a dollar. For. For. Yeah, a dollar. It was a dollar. It was one of the very few items at the Dollar store that are actually $1.

[Chris Cote]

What is that about?

[Billy Corben]

It's wrong. It's immoral.

[Mike Ryan]

Inflation.

[Billy Corben]

It's unethical.

[Chris Cote]

Change the name.

[Billy Corben]

Yes.

[Chris Cote]

$2 stores.

[Mike Ryan]

Cup of Dollar General.

[Billy Corben]

Make it then.

[Mike Ryan]

Make it.

[Billy Corben]

Make the name of your store then. Sorry about inflation. It's more than a dollar. But don't tell me it's a dollar store. And then just Generally lie to me about, I can't get anything in here for a dollar.

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry about inflation general. I don't think that that rolls off the top.

[Billy Corben]

Understood. But don't lie to me.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Do you ever worry about the quality of the dollar store product?

[Mike Ryan]

No. Because nowadays they have, like, the same products as everywhere else.

[Billy Corben]

They do.

[Mike Ryan]

But it's more of like.

[Chris Cote]

I'm still a little skeptical. I look at it and it's a brand name, but I'm like, you're in the dollar store.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, when you grow up in places like Johnstown, Pennsylvania, population of 17,000, the Dollar General is not looked at the same way. The dollar general is in other, bigger, metropolitan.

[Billy Corben]

Let me just explain to everybody. I love a dollar store, but not in this incarnation. There are plenty of people who do their shopping because they enjoy the bargain. And it's not just about buying the thing. It's about getting it at a good price. You cannot make it a dollar store. If you stop charging a dollar, it ceases to be. I don't want to go into a dollar store anymore. If you're going to charge me anything that cost more than a dollar, I'll bite.

[Chris Cote]

Dan, when was the last time you went to a dollar store?

[Billy Corben]

I went. I went two months ago.

[Mike Ryan]

What'd you get?

[Billy Corben]

I got. I got in the store. I got an assortment of stickers, tattoo, you know, temporary tattoos for something.

[Mike Ryan]

My third dollar general in an impoverished neighborhood. Because money is king.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, and I told the people there who were frustrated with previous dollar stores that I will keep my prices.

[Mike Ryan]

Raised these at a dollar.

[Billy Corben]

It's my whole platform.

[Chris Cote]

You walked in with a cigar, monocle.

[Billy Corben]

You guys make fun of me, but he.

[Mike Ryan]

Perfect location.

[Billy Corben]

He was recently in a dollar store. Do you guys not like a dollar store? No one here likes the dollar store.

[Dan LeBatard]

I love the dollar store.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. But I haven't.

[Dan LeBatard]

I haven't been to the doll. I used to go with my grandma all the time. And it was specifically for the reason you mentioned, Dan, which was. She loved a bargain.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, man. And, you know, a dollar isn't what it used to be, so it's tough to even trust anything that's a dollar nowadays. To be honest, if everything actually cost a dollar, you probably wouldn't go.

[Dan LeBatard]

We used to play bingo against each other with pennies. And so when I would win enough pennies, she would take me to the dollar store so that I could buy something. It was the best.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I owe my former Cleveland Browns fandom to a Hialeah dollar store.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, that's right. The plates, right.

[Mike Ryan]

There you go.

[Chris Cote]

Commemorative plates came from a dollar.

[Billy Corben]

They wouldn't be a dollar now.

[Chris Cote]

They'd be 55 cents.

[Billy Corben]

Are you guys not saying that this is an issue? Why don't you go ahead and make the joke and not mumble it? No, it's funny.

[Chris Cote]

I mean, I mean, it's funnier to do it like that because the browns aren't good.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, see, now you lost me here. I don't. I don't like where we're going with this.

[Billy Corben]

The dollar needs to be a dollar. It needs to be worth a dollar. And if I'm walking into a store that's called the genital store, that's the dollar store. I'm sorry, Genitals.

[Mike Ryan]

All right. You want genital stores and glory holes. We're going to stick to just bargain shopping here. Okay? And good football teams. The problem with inappropriate at work. Now, the full circle has come here because you're talking about going to a general store. You didn't put dollar in it. You just said put it on the poll.

[Billy Corben]

Would you go into the genital store at lebitard show and want to see.

[Mike Ryan]

How far a dollar went? It's a better dollar what it used to be at the general store. What?

[Billy Corben]

Dan? That's right. It's a dollar what it used to be at the general store. The is it not false advertising? Like, in terms if I wanted to start a class action lawsuit with lawyers, this is false advertising in commerce. If you're charging me more than a do the dollar store.

[Chris Cote]

Well, Dan, I think I can answer that question. The dollar store does not say how many dollars. It just says dollar store as opposed to 99 cents only, which went out of business because Your name is $0.99 only. So the moment when you get the things are 109, 129, 139, you kind of then have a false advertising.

[Mike Ryan]

The moment that store starts taking other currencies only exclusively, then you have a case. And also it might be they're going to be like it's. Yeah, we. It's dollar in general, not the dollar general. Like the captain of the dollar.

[Chris Cote]

No, it's not a dollar general around generally a dollar.

[Mike Ryan]

Generally a dollar.

[Billy Corben]

See, that's how you fix it. You just make it a dollar. Generally, that's all you gotta do is add an ly.

[Chris Cote]

Dan. I swear to God. This happened to me in real life. I worked for one of the teams I worked for. The general manager asked me what I wanted to be and I was like I just want to help the team win championship. And he said, no, no, no. Every. Everyone has, like, their own motivation and stuff. He said, like, for me, example, I'm. I'm the general manager. I manage things generally. And I looked at him and I said, are you serious? That was his, that was his definition of gm. What's a gm? Do I manage things generally?

[Mike Ryan]

That's a literal way of looking at it. He's wrong.

[Andrew Hawkins]

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[Mike Ryan]

Dan LeBatard.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I went in the margins. I'm like, I'm like, you're moneyball of sex. I'm basically Scott Hatterberg.

[Roy Bellamy]

Stugats a lot of walks, but I'm.

[Andrew Hawkins]

On base when it comes to sex. Other, other dudes, they can be Giambi. You know your role, you play. I know my role.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Billy Corben]

The rest of you, I'm curious how the news arrived here with, with you guys. And this is, forgive the segue here, from light stuff to heavier stuff, but Dwayne Wade, having Dwayne Wade attached to kidney Cancer volunteering. That made me feel some of the same things that I felt when Randy Moss had to leave everything he was doing in broadcasting. It is obviously jarring to me and most of us, whenever mortality comes and creeps this close in a way that's this overt, but especially so when it's people that I associate with the highest forms of youth and athleticism. Like when, when Dwyane Wade. I understand that cancer can come for us all. And many people listening to this have been affected by cancer. And thankfully Dwyane Wade says that the kidney cancer has been removed. But I still, I had trouble processing what it is that I was reading. And it ain't like I've been near. Haven't been near death recently. It's. It's just this particular person representing this thing for this market and it being youth and I will carry you with free throws past everyone. In 2006, it just, it sort of didn't confute compute. I kind of short circuited on it.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah. You know, Dan. And I think the thing I thought of was that, because obviously we only found out cuz Dwyane Wade talked about it on his podcast a year and a half or more later. And it reminded me of. And I thought back to around the time he says this happened, 2023. Did I notice that Dwyane Wade was kind of conspicuously absent or low key? And I'm like, I don't have any memories. But then it made me think of Chadwick Boseman, who we didn't know was fighting cancer that whole time up until he passed away. And he said, oh, he had cancer. He had aggressive cancer apparently. But we didn't know. We just thought he was just over the whole Wakanda Forever thing in all those photos he took with fans and stuff like that. And in reality, no. He's exhausted because of cancer treatments. And that was the thing that really kind of got me thinking, like, wait a sec, Dwayne Wade been walking around, making appearances, TV as owner of the Utah Jazz, all those things. And we just didn't know that whole time he was dealing with this.

[Billy Corben]

As competitive in his post career as he was during his basketball career. Dwyane Wade has been, you know, gluttonous about consuming opportunities and competing in the content space for I'm still Dwyane Wade. That has value. I didn't see him disappear either. The work can help in those circumstances. The busy can help. It can keep you. It can keep you sort of medicine every day to be getting up for something when you're scared, except you got.

[Chris Cote]

A. I mean, that's. That's some real strenuous work conditions to be. I'm working while I'm trying to be careful.

[Billy Corben]

So were his previous work conditions, like. I'm not telling you he was sick. Yeah.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Bowie knew that he was making his final album and that it was like a love letter to his fans to kind of explain to them what was happening.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that's scary. I mean, anytime that you have, like, your heroes, it's like, obviously being a football player and you hear so commonly about the health risks of football, and when you're playing, you're so, like, laser focused and it feels so far away. And I'm at the age now where I start to hear about teammates who were sick or teammates that passed away. And when you get to that moment where it's like, well, these are guys. It's not an old guy thing anymore. These are guys that were in the locker room with me. It does hit you, like, much different. And when you hear D. Wade talk about it, it kind of felt like that. Because it's like, to your point, this is at times the Superman.

[Chris Cote]

You know, the crazy one about that, Andrew, is we get a lot in the NBA where guys, because they are large human beings, their heart just gives out. And everyone always seems to think, oh, it's a retired guy. You know, you probably let yourself go. And I'm talking about, like, Sean Rooks is the name that always comes to mind. Sean Rooks was a dude that didn't eat. Eat bad at. Well, eat clean. Right. He didn't smoke, he didn't drink, exercise all the time. Right. And he was on a coaching staff, which means every year, you know, what happens at the first day of training camp?

[Billy Corben]

What do we do?

[Chris Cote]

We all do physical.

[Mike Ryan]

Right?

[Chris Cote]

Everybody, staff players, everything. So this is someone not only doing all the right things as far as how to live a healthy lifestyle, but was getting the checks and balances on at least a yearly basis, regularly.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

And then it's just like that. And that's the stuff that. It's kind of humbling when you think of just the mortality of the man. There ain't no control we have over any of this stuff, man. Sure, we can do certain things, but you don't control it.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. No, man.

[Chris Cote]

You're just trying to mitigate risk is what you're doing.

[Mike Ryan]

Yep. I mean, I've had moments where I've had health scares, like in retirement. And to your point, coming face to face with your, you know, the Potential of mortality is very, very heavy.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm just grateful that Dwyane Wade spoke about this so publicly. You know, down here in Miami, obviously, Alonzo Mourning went through issues with his kidneys as well. And, you know, Dwyane Wade talked about Alonzo and all of this. And Alonzo still spends time being an advocate for people to get checked out. And, you know, Dwyane Wade here with another example of, like, we as men in particular are often kind of taught to kind of mask pain, whether that's emotionally or physically. And like him sort of saying, hey, I was going through some issues, so I went to the doctor and I wanted to get checked out, and I found it necessary. And they found something that could have been deadly to me is, I think, going to make a huge impact on so many people who will now go get themselves checked out. So I thank him for that.

[Billy Corben]

I don't want to play doctor or diagnose. I will just tell you, in the history with this organization, the reason Alonzo Morning learned that these kidney ailments affect black people disproportionately. The way that he learned what was connected to his kidney issues was the amount of pain medication he was taking every single day in order to do his job. Just the way he was popping Advil. Ricky Williams speaks of being on the team plane and just a tray coming by of just an assortment of things that you couldn't normally get to heal your body. Is it unfair to wonder without a diagnosis, like, just the cost of medicating to keep getting out there on the body in retirement?

[Chris Cote]

Anti inflammatories is what was linked to kidney disease and kidney failure. Larry Johnson famously stopped taking anti inflammatories because of what happened to Alonzo Mourning. And his career overnight went to, like, almost hit a wall because his back was completely messed up from earlier back surgery. And so he needed that just to feel loose in his body.

[Billy Corben]

You'll do anything for relief from the pain.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. And I think more than that, you'll do anything to complete your job at the best that you can, because that's how you're trained. I took a lot of anti inflammatories. I'll go on record in saying that. Like, I literally could not tell me.

[Chris Cote]

The most you've ever taken, like, in one sitting.

[Mike Ryan]

Most. I mean, it's hard to say because it's like you don't even think about it, like, oh, how many pills you start to just take. What? Okay, I felt best I took this amount yesterday and I didn't Feel perfect.

[Chris Cote]

So you add some more.

[Mike Ryan]

You add a little bit more. Right.

[Chris Cote]

So five.

[Mike Ryan]

Mean, I've taken six Advil.

[Chris Cote]

Six Advil.

[Mike Ryan]

Eight Advil.

[Billy Corben]

Eight.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Like, it's, you know, eight hundreds. You take Walter.

[Billy Corben]

Look at what he was doing.

[Mike Ryan]

Waltering. You take horse tabs toward all. Like, it's. I. I couldn't play a game without ToRD all, and it got banned by the league. You got shot eventually. But, yeah, you get a shot, you get appeal. Because honestly, it's like, I'm. Yes. I'm 5 7, 180 pounds. Physics will tell you if Ray Lewis hits me, it's going to hurt. And I can't do my job if I hurt. So Tordor will mask the pain for a couple of hours so that when he hits me, I get up and talk my trash. But the very next play, I'm still the same receiver pregame and literally. Yes, every game. Cannot play a game without. I got to Cleveland. First game. Me, Dante Whitner, Carlos Dansby, free agents to the Browns. Game one. We go to the training room, drop our pants. Like, what are you. They're like, what the hell are you doing?

[Chris Cote]

Oh, they didn't know what you were.

[Mike Ryan]

And we're like, time for the shot, right? Like, we had gotten to a group, and we're like, hey, let's just go in now. We get it out the way and let it start to kick in. They were like, yeah, we don't do that here. And we were like, how the hell are we supposed to play in an NFL game without tour? But it was banned, and it was like, they weren't. They wouldn't do it. So, yeah, it's a tough business. It is. It hurts as much as it looks, you know, and you. And you got to get through it because that's what you're getting paid for.

[Chris Cote]

I'm just thinking of the poor team actor trader, whatever, sitting in his office, like, all right, guys, game day. Let me see. Let me look up some last things. And here come the three new guys.

[Billy Corben]

All right.

[Mike Ryan]

Just bent over.

[Billy Corben]

It's my experience. You tell me if I have this wrong, because you're mentioning just three guys. It's my experience that that's more common than not that guys needed the Toradol in order to get. Get out on the field. Most weeks, yes. The majority of players. It wasn't. It wasn't. It wasn't a small. It wasn't you and three guys.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, yeah.

[Billy Corben]

The majority of football players, when this was allowed, needed something to mask the.

[Mike Ryan]

Body Screaming at that time, it was me and the three guys that were new to the locker room and we didn't know what this organization's rules were, right? So to us, we had come here and we're more old school players than probably the guys that they had in the locker room at that time. And this was a part of our process, you know.

[Chris Cote]

So what was that like the first time you had to play without Toradol after you've experienced the bliss of Toradol, now it's like a band. Hey, you gotta just go out there and play.

[Mike Ryan]

It would literally ruin your whole week because your recovery is slower, the pain hurts a little bit more. And even in the game it just to your point about when you stop taking it, you tank. It's yeah, try to do anything in pain, you're going to be worse at it, right? So you do as much as you can to mask the pain. You know, I limp down steps right now like I'm 70 years old in the morning because of the scar tissue in my ankle. And I could not have been the player I was without a painkiller or voltairen to keep the swelling down. Cause it's impossible.

[Billy Corben]

Can you explain something to me? Because you mentioned Ray Lewis here. I read his biography. It's got some holes in it in some key places, but I read, I read his biography and he was talking about how he physically became who he became. And it's at least in part because since high school he was taking a deck of cards, throwing card by card on the ground. And when it was a face card, he'd do 10 push ups and he would do it that way and he would do it through the entire deck. And he is the only player that I've heard of in the modern age that everyone talks about that way, which is when he hits you, it feels different than when everyone else in the world hits you. And I'm wondering if that's actually factual. Like when you say Ray Lewis Lewis, are you grabbing a random name or does his. Him hitting you, does it feel different than everyone else hitting you?

[Mike Ryan]

I wouldn't say different than everybody else. There are a lot of players that when they hit you, it hurts. Now Ray Lewis is for me like that good middle ground of yes, he can hit you like Terrell Suggs can hit you. The chance of Terrell Suggs catching me is a little lower than me catching the ball and not seeing Ray Lewis coming. Or Troy Palomalu. Troy Palomalu probably in my career hit me the hardest. That hurt the worst, he was a. A torpedo. And it's not a strength thing. Like, yes, strength is a faction of your speed, your acceleration, all the science. And then there are just guys who know how to maximize the impact of their body against another body better than most. And Troy Palomalu. Ray was really good at that. There are certain guys that I. I would get hit by. Ed Reed would hit me, and I was never like, you know, he didn't. He didn't. He didn't break through the tortoise. Palomalu broke through the tordo.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It was like, okay, this about James Harrison?

[Mike Ryan]

This one is immune to this. James Harrison. Yes. He would kill you. But James never got me. And I would actually talk a lot of crap to James Harrison. It was almost like a chicken.

[Andrew Hawkins]

He was actively trying to kill the Cleveland Browns.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes. Yeah, he was trying to kill him.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Were you there when he killed Josh?

[Mike Ryan]

I was not. I was in Cincinnati when he killed Josh. And then he signed to Cincinnati my third year there, so we played together. And then would he talk openly about.

[Andrew Hawkins]

How he was trying to kill other people on the field?

[Mike Ryan]

No, he. He talked about his. He had a plan. Like, it was like, he had it written out and it was premeditated.

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, Murder one.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. He was like, I'm going to catch a body today. And I'm like, all right, well, glad you're on my team this year. So then for the rest of my career, when I played against him, I would egg it on. There's actually. I got a really bad concussion versus the Steelers in 2015, where I get hit and I come to. It was like the third quarter, like 3:45pm I get hit. The next moment I remember, it's midnight. I'm in the hospital. Like, that's.

[Chris Cote]

No, come on, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Swear to you.

[Chris Cote]

Come on, man.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm like, mom, what are you doing here? Right? Like, it was like the last play I was on the field, and this time I'm in the hospital. But in that game, I was talking so much shit that these. The defensive play to James to. They were like head hunting me because I was like, it don't matter. You ain't going to catch me. And of course, Johnny throws a pic, and I turn around, and here comes the. I believe it was Jarvis.

[Billy Corben]

They're all looking for you. As soon as they're all gone, every.

[Mike Ryan]

One of them on film, you can see the moment the pic happens, they all are trying to find me. He catches me straight launch, helmet to helmet. Next thing I know, I'm at UPMC Medical at a hospital.

[Billy Corben]

Can we please call him? I'd like to call somebody who was on that field to just get a recollection how quickly all 11 of them turned around to go find out where Hawk was. Who's that guy who's been like a fly around an elephant's tail, just annoying us loudly all game?

[Mike Ryan]

They would write. They wrote articles on Pittsburgh blogs, like, detailing the sequence of events. Like, here's Hawkins after a catch, jumping up, talking trash to James Harrison. Here's where he flinches at another D and who is six feet bigger than him. And then here is the actual hit in question.

[Chris Cote]

I like that there's somewhat like in a darkened room with a slideshow, like, picture one, like hog talking.

[Billy Corben]

When you mention that. When he mentions Palomalu. I've almost got a word association that I do with this because I want to ask. So. No, not shampoo. You've been doing nothing but muttering uselessness under my breath every time I talk that. We can't understand what you're saying. When you make the jokes, they're only for you. Paloma. Lou. When I think of him, the thing that I think of is other football players saying and Andrew Gase saying of Peyton Manning, he was prepared for every single situation that there could be in the sport except how Paola Malu played it. That there was that strategically, he would consistently be baffled that that person was taking that chance in that spot because it was a. It was irresponsible to.

[Chris Cote]

He was clearly head and shoulders above the competition.

[Mike Ryan]

There it is. I like that. But that is both of those things are fact, because when we would watch him on film, we would go into those games and I mean, Jay Gruden was our OC and he was straight up say, like, hey, there's no rhyme or reason to anything this dude does.

[Roy Bellamy]

Robert and Kirk, huh?

[Billy Corben]

That's his fake Jay Gruden. It hasn't been an appearance in a while. You're allowed to be surprised by that. It's a very limited impersonation.

[Mike Ryan]

I can hear it, though. Now.

[Roy Bellamy]

Where my quarterbacks at me, man. Robert.

[Mike Ryan]

And that's good. That's not bad. Now that I have the context, it's a little flaky.

[Chris Cote]

Not like.

[Mike Ryan]

No. Okay, I like what you did there. Troy was great, though. He would literally, on any given play, take a chance that you had never seen on film. And honestly, a lot of that was in large part to Ryan Clark, who was kind of the by the book safety. And the way he played was another way we Would we would be baffled by two things. We'd be baffled by Palomalu when he decides to take those crazy chances. And Ryan Clark had this weird way of diagnosing runner pass before anybody else that it felt like cheating. And I never quite figured it out. And I've asked him and he hasn't given me. But it was like, on film, it would be like, how do you know so quickly what this is?

[Chris Cote]

Yeah, like you say, Troy's taking crazy chances, but for him, it was probably just rinse and repeat.

[Billy Corben]

Right when he says never quite figured it out. I'm guessing that Andrew Hawkins here has never quite figured out that that limited fake Jay Gruden, if I have the proper context, was once playing hide and seek. Here he was playing hide and seek. So you tell me, Hawk, how accurate this is sound that we wrestled away from espn.

[Roy Bellamy]

John and Jay, Mike playing John, me.

[Billy Corben]

Playing Jay, of John and Jay Gruden playing hide and seek. Are they as adults? Please give me the context I need here.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm trying to just listen.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Well, this was all improv, you know, we had a Jay Gruden that was really good at saying Kirk, so we.

[Billy Corben]

Decided to run with him. We built the whole thing around. Here are Jay and John Gruden playing hide and seek. I thought it was Marco Polo up.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I love slants, man.

[Chris Cote]

Wow.

[Billy Corben]

That's what they're sponsoring?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Chris Cote]

Wait a minute.

[Billy Corben]

Was that you or Guden who just did that?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I love slants, man. Wow. No, I love my brother, man. He's over here. Actually, he's looking for his quarterback.

[Billy Corben]

Over here?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

Where's Robert and Kirk?

[Mike Ryan]

I love that man.

[Billy Corben]

Fats and info's limited. Fake J. Gr is. It's just too obscure.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Very limited.

[Roy Bellamy]

Where's Robert Kirk?

[Billy Corben]

Why is he. Why is he. He doesn't know where they are. Like, that's all you've got?

[Mike Ryan]

More that, man.

[Billy Corben]

Okay, I'll help you look for him.

[Roy Bellamy]

Robert Kirk.

[Billy Corben]

Kirk.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I should hold a camp, man, to find your quarter.

[Billy Corben]

This is the Gruden brothers. What would it sound like? Let me do this. Another one.

[Andrew Hawkins]

It.

[Billy Corben]

What would it sound like if the Gruden brothers were teaming up to play hide and go seek?

[Andrew Hawkins]

I love that game. You count.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, I'm going to go run.

[Billy Corben]

One, two, three.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Don't forget about four.

[Mike Ryan]

I love four.

[Billy Corben]

Robert.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I'm out here playing with your quarterbacks, man.

[Roy Bellamy]

Ready or not, man, here I come.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Try to not look under.

[Roy Bellamy]

Hey, I see you, man. Tag, man.

[Billy Corben]

Who'd you see? Who'd you see? Fat Rob Fat Rob. Yeah. Okay. So stupid. Oh, my God. It's a good QB. Room. RG3 and Kirk Cousins.

[Mike Ryan]

That's solid, man. That was. That was an incredible impersonation. As someone who played under Jay Gruden for three years, that is an undercover spot on impersonation.

[Billy Corben]

The world's only one Robert.

[Mike Ryan]

The world's only J. Grude. I've never heard anyone ever impersonate Jay.

[Andrew Hawkins]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don Levitard we're gonna win.

[Billy Corben]

Stugats.

[Chris Cote]

We're gonna win.

[Roy Bellamy]

What an old reference.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Billy Corben]

I want to play for you guys some sound here we haven't gotten to during the week. It is in Spanish and it sounds like a walk off situation, but it is not a walk off situation.

[Andrew Hawkins]

That is hugely key.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I just. I need to point out to everybody that everything that happening, everything that's happening in this Dominican baseball clip and my God, are these fun atmospheres to be a part of when Dominican players care about these games. There's so much personality on these games. But this is the top of the ninth inning. No, no, no.

[Andrew Hawkins]

I can't believe It.

[Mike Ryan]

I can't believe it.

[Billy Corben]

Him as a player. I watched him play so much. Third for the race.

[Mike Ryan]

He.

[Andrew Hawkins]

He's now rounding second for the audio audience.

[Roy Bellamy]

This hitter is, like, pumping up the crowd. He's, like, skipping the entire way.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Just got to third. He stopped at third.

[Roy Bellamy]

Big hug for the third base coach.

[Andrew Hawkins]

He is now walking from third to home. Soft jog.

[Mike Ryan]

This reminds me of what cornerbacks do when they're beat by a receiver and the quarterback overthrows them and it's an incomplete. And then they celebrate like, it's just.

[Chris Cote]

Like, I locked him down.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Locked down again. Top of the 9th. Not a walk off.

[Chris Cote]

It was amazing because he hits. And before he gets to first base, the entire team has come out.

[Roy Bellamy]

Everyone gets a high five on the.

[Chris Cote]

First baseline side, and they're all just. And he literally stands still. He's not like, jogging and shouting him out. He just stands there. What's up now? What's up? It reminds me of Peter War in the Sugar Bowl. Y'all want me to end this shit right now?

[Billy Corben]

Again with Peter Warren.

[Chris Cote]

Dude, it's one of the. Hey, I'm gonna tell you right now, there's like, every. I think every person has, like, three to five athletes in their life. That's like. Doesn't matter what their actual ranking is in the sport. It's like, in that moment, you're like, that.

[Mike Ryan]

That's the guy.

[Chris Cote]

There's no. You cannot tell me a football player that I feared more than Peter Warrick.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow.

[Chris Cote]

That was the pinnacle of football and everything else after that, I was like.

[Billy Corben]

To be better than everyone in Florida at Florida. Football is what getting a lot of credit for. He wasn't quite the pro that he was as a college player. What's the best you've ever felt in one of these situations where, what, middle of the game? Well, just not even middle of the game. Just an athletic feat that swells through you with so much energy that you. It's this thing we talk about. It's one thing to win, but to be the reason for winning and then to share that with your teammates, even though it's the top of the ninth. To share the reason for I'm the reason we won. And all of the defiance that comes hissing out of you because you're the most competitive of people.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Billy Corben]

Like, where. Where is your highest feeling on this probably date?

[Mike Ryan]

October 20, 2011. Johnstown, Pennsylvania. Mayor Trigonia walks up to that podium. Hear me out. He utters the word Johnstown's favorite son. The feeling that goes through your veins to know that this day is cemented and forever yours to own through life's history. There will never be a day that people won't look back at October 20, 2011 and think of me.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Would you like to know what ChatGPT says?

[Mike Ryan]

Smiles and glory holes, baby.

[Andrew Hawkins]

ChatGPT says. I asked it what is your signature moment in your career? And it came back with September 16, 2012. You were playing against the Cleveland Browns. You caught a 50 yard game winning touchdown down.

[Mike Ryan]

Man, that's not wrong if I gave you the true answer. Okay, chat GPT. They're one for like 10 today, but that one is right.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Look at this. It goes on to add he weaved through multiple defenders with his elite speed and agility, securing a game winning score in a 3427 Bengals victory.

[Mike Ryan]

There's so much to that play. You know, here's a couple of things and I don't want to ramble, but I will. I don't want to be. Look at me, Louie. But let me. Let's take this moment to look at me, Louie. Trying to get to the NFL. Ray Farmer was like an assistant GM at or like a front person front office personnel at the Kansas City Chiefs. And he told my agent he doesn't quite have enough juice for his size for them to give me a workout. So they didn't give me a workout. Coming from Canada, I go to the Bengals. He's now front office for the, for the Browns. This is, I think our first or second game of the season. Maybe game number two. It's the fourth quarter, we're in a division battle. They throw me this ball and it is a highlight. Please go look up this touchdown. It's the best touchdown I've ever scored. It was my first ever NFL touchdown. My son was born in February. This is his first ever NFL game. Little baby with the headphones on. My family's whole family is there in the audience. And I scored this essentially touchdown that sealed again, sealed the deal. Not only that, that play is why Ray Farmer, who became the GM of the Browns, ended up signing me away from the Bengals as a restricted free agent. Because he was like, you know what, we messed up. We're gonna get you here. And that touchdown, he referenced it all the time. There is no better feeling in the world.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Yo, this cut that you make is ridiculous.

[Mike Ryan]

It is. It's like it puts on full display with the Andrew Hawkins. This is Peter Warwick.

[Andrew Hawkins]

This is a Peter Warwick touchdown. This is crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

It is. It's a nice one. Humbly, it's crazy because you made five dudes miss.

[Chris Cote]

The way you describe it, not the actual play, but describe all the ramifications. It is clearly the most important to your life. Like most important moment of your entire life.

[Mike Ryan]

It is.

[Chris Cote]

This is what made you millions of dollars and allows you to sit right here and. And crack jokes about having a date about anything.

[Andrew Hawkins]

This is kind of a dumb throw by Andy, but it's a. It's an absolute rocket that gives you.

[Mike Ryan]

Rocket snagged. And then your boy just. Just did the rest. I always say that scoring a touchdown is the second greatest feeling in my life. NFL touchdown. It is.

[Billy Corben]

So sex is first?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, I was going to say my day, but sure, be inappropriate, Dan, whatever you're into, but yes, no sex. Number one touchdown. NFL touchdown. No greater feeling.

[Roy Bellamy]

Poor number 27 on the Browns here. I mean, you work that guy.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey. Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

I missed a second one. Hold on.

[Billy Corben]

He loves what's happening right now because it looks like proof of what he's been saying that he was the quickest man in the world. Huh? He's been trying to tell you get it? He's been trying to tell everybody since he got here. Do you guys know how quick I am? Why do you keep disrespecting. I don't think you see.

[Roy Bellamy]

First touchdown, first touchdown. Downhill from there, huh?

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, man, you make a bunch of.

[Roy Bellamy]

Millions and then you get one is your best one. They're all downhill from there.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. He's not wrong. The tord I was flowing that day.

[Billy Corben]

You were really good, huh?

[Andrew Hawkins]

Good Lord.

[Mike Ryan]

Those ankles were loose that day, baby.

[Chris Cote]

I just watched it. And all I'm imagining is that he can't feel anything out there.

[Billy Corben]

Just gliding, just floating. It's levitating. It's whatever monks do in order to get off of the ground when they reach a prayerful state.

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't go to sleep that night till 4:30 in the morning. There you go. Partly because the. The Torah had me wired. The other part was I sat up and watched every highlight that they talked about.

[Chris Cote]

Oh, my God. That's. That's got to be the cool part, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Stu Scott was on the call.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, that's got.

[Chris Cote]

I'm watching it.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Crazy, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, man. It was like.

[Chris Cote]

That's the part that I think, like, I've only obviously been tangential, right. Where they're talking about us, but it's not that I did. Right, right. But the part, Dan, where you win a big game, you have a great game. That's awesome. But then when you go home and say, let me see what these bastards on SportsCenter are talking about. Just turn it on and you watch it on repeat. You know how they repeat the Sports center after.

[Billy Corben]

Were you play of the day? Did you get in the top 10? Did that play get into the top 10?

[Mike Ryan]

Like, yeah, Rich Eisen called me the human joystick. Who else? Stu Scott was on the call and said something like this, this. This dude moves like butter, you know, which was like, come on, man. Stu Scott on the call. Coach Dungey was like, man, I love this kid.

[Roy Bellamy]

Chris Berman was like, what it was.

[Mike Ryan]

You were getting all the compliments, dude, you talk about.

[Billy Corben]

Did you get a whoop?

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sure I got a whoop.

[Chris Cote]

Of course he did.

[Mike Ryan]

It was like the highlight of the.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Day that NFL served a nickname. Hershey Hawk.

[Billy Corben]

It deserved a whoop.

[Mike Ryan]

A couple of them learned.

[Chris Cote]

There's a couple of them in there, man.

[Billy Corben]

No, that was just a one. There's a cut and then there's one whoop. No, there was not. There were not.

[Mike Ryan]

Look, hit every button on the Madden controller.

[Billy Corben]

It's a great play.

[Chris Cote]

Just mash it up.

[Billy Corben]

Worthy of one.

[Mike Ryan]

It was at least two whoops.

[Chris Cote]

I think it gets two whoops. It's two whoops.

[Billy Corben]

This is not an indictment of the move. It's a celebration of the movement.

[Mike Ryan]

Whoop.

[Chris Cote]

It's.

[Billy Corben]

It's respecting the whoop.

[Mike Ryan]

Come on, man. I think you're disrespecting the play. I think it's a little disrespective of the play.

[Chris Cote]

There's the first cut that he makes and then there the sidestep to come back to the inside and going this.

[Mike Ryan]

Way to downplay this play and then applaud Stu Gotts. I'm not waiting for the best known.

[Billy Corben]

Name, not downplaying it.

[Mike Ryan]

American football podcast done by a white dude in Florida.

[Billy Corben]

To give it one is a compliment. It will never be an insult. So you got one whoop. It's enough.

[Roy Bellamy]

He wants two.

[Chris Cote]

Which one are you calling the whoop?

[Billy Corben]

The first. The first. The first cut. Look, the second cut was beautiful. He will tell you that nothing has ever felt greater in his life not crossing that goal line than that first cut and how it looks on the video.

[Mike Ryan]

Now, there was a solid four cuts.

[Billy Corben]

Agreed.

[Mike Ryan]

Two of them were whoop worthy.

[Billy Corben]

No, they.

[Mike Ryan]

They were all the L1 button sidestep to the left on a safety.

[Chris Cote]

That's crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

You've never even seen that really done in a game that at that speed.

[Chris Cote]

I want in my mind. You said whoop as you did it.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes, bro. Oh, what a play. I'm just running for my life. By the way, like, in the middle of the play, I'm not like, oh, I'm balling. It was like, oh, my God. Oh, my.

[Chris Cote]

I'm outta score.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, I'm good.

[Billy Corben]

Woo.

[Mike Ryan]

Play it cool. Play it cool. Play it cool. And then I stare down the audience as if I meant to do that.

[Chris Cote]

So you're telling me there was no big picture. It was just, I can't get tackled by him. Oh, I can't. Like, wait a second.

[Billy Corben]

Is that the first sound he made? Did sound like, like fear to me.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm blindly running in the middle of the field. This play has been going on for six seconds. Somebody's about to kill me. There's one cut that I think the second cut that I make is actually on my own player, but I thought it was a defender.

[Chris Cote]

The colors are.

[Mike Ryan]

He's coming to block. I thought he was coming to hit me, and I got scared. And cut. So it looks sweet, but I was like, oh, that's Brian. Get him for me.

[Chris Cote]

That should be a rule against having the same color help helmets, because it's like, it's orange. There's this brownish orange history.

[Mike Ryan]

You ready for some football history? You guys do a football history show here? Football history of why both the Browns and the Bengals have orange helmets. Essentially, they took the Browns from Paul Brown. Okay. He was very upset at it. He was pissed so much. So he's like, I'm going to start another team in Cincinnati and I'm going to give them the same orange helmets at a spite. So we would get this speech every first day of camp from Mike Brown about his dad and how they became the Bengals. Now, they eventually added the stripes, but that's why they also had the orange helmets to stick it to the Browns organization.

[Billy Corben]

You guys just saw a moment of great athletic grace that was amazing to watch. And the way he described it is the way the sound would be made by somebody in a kitchen jumping away from a rat to jump onto a chair. He was terrified the entire time he was running out of there. It was the sound you and I would make if we were trying to tiptoe through that. Like.

[Mike Ryan]

That is the NFL experience.

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[Mike Ryan]

Don Lebatard.

[Billy Corben]

But it's just his titties are sitting on the shelf. That is his belly stugats.

[Andrew Hawkins]

He said titties. Like, shocked me a little bit. I wasn't quite prepared for titties.

[Mike Ryan]

This is the Don lebatar show with the stugats.

[Billy Corben]

Jeremy is saying he has some exclusive Heat news. It feels like we have not gotten to any Heat news. And he says he's had it for two days. I don't know if that's the greatest failure we've had around here today. I believe the greatest failure we've had around here today is that Mike Ryan has not gone viral with this is the camera shot making some sort of profound point about something where he gives social commentary and we never see his face.

[Andrew Hawkins]

Sorry, I wasn't that interesting today.

[Billy Corben]

It's okay. I was hoping, though, that you would be.

[Roy Bellamy]

I thought you were a star.

[Billy Corben]

I. I was.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, come on. Bravo. That deserves a spa potty.

[Billy Corben]

This is a happy time around here. And Jeremy thought that all of these balloons. And by the way, it's a crappy assortment of balloons. I don't know why we just took the letters in birthday and made the A and the Y.

[Roy Bellamy]

Hey, watch it.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah, I don't. I. But. But we are celebrating our award season. Metal Arc did great, but Jeremy thought we were celebrating Tyler Heroes All Star appearance. Yeah, that's.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's right. It's the first All Star selection for Tyler Herro. And it. It's a pretty amazing accomplishment for a guy who was given drag by people nationally and locally for the last several years as he was part of trade rumors every single off season until this one. A few years ago, he went on a podcast and said that he was in. Should be considered in the same conversation.

[Roy Bellamy]

It was your podcast.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was my podcast with Luca, Trey, and Ja. And everybody laughed at him. You know, they put it on inside the NBA and. And trolled him. And to see him now as the only one of Those guys in 2025 named an All Star, that's not to say. That's not saying he's Luka Doncic. I'm not saying he's Luka Doncic. Okay. But to watch him play himself into the conversation of all of these guys who he said were going to be all Stars has been really cool.

[Roy Bellamy]

Calling Tyler Herro, like hated on a national level is a bit extreme.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think you' been on NBA Twitter.

[Roy Bellamy]

I think that he Twitter dude.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, I just.

[Roy Bellamy]

I think there's. I don't think he's. That he's just a guy.

[Billy Corben]

No, he's Internet polarizing.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Billy Corben]

No, he is.

[Mike Ryan]

Look, man, it was the Jack Harlow.

[Billy Corben]

Yeah. That's what it was.

[Dan LeBatard]

And that was right after, like, it was this quick ascension after the bubble and. And talking as if he was going to be the player that he's now become. That he. It took him a while to get here.

[Billy Corben]

I mean, still making faces at you. I mean, he is an all Star and he's not Jamal McGlore. Like, he's an all Star. He. He earned the All Star game.

[Chris Cote]

How defined Jamal McGlore All Star?

[Billy Corben]

Not those counting stats. Jamal McGlord doesn't have the counting stats that Tyler Hero does as a scorer. Efficiency in the three point game. He. He has become one of the best shooter scorers in the league on consistency and efficiency.

[Chris Cote]

I would argue with you that the definition of the Jamal McGlore All Star is that really enjoy this weekend guy because it may not happen again.

[Dan LeBatard]

Maybe that's.

[Chris Cote]

That's the definition of maybe not.

[Dan LeBatard]

But to watch him turn into this guy that's been this efficient and in a season full of turmoil for the franchise, like, I think that's a.

[Billy Corben]

The All Star game.

[Chris Cote]

So did Jamal Miller.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. My favorite part about being on this show is being the casual basketball fan who spends 60% of the time during the conversation googling the names that you guys.

[Chris Cote]

Thank you.

[Roy Bellamy]

That proves my point. Like Tyler Herro. Like, nobody's thinking about Tyler Hero.

[Mike Ryan]

I know Tyler Herro. I didn't google Jamal McGlory that he was Jamal McGlord. Just got a quick Google search.

[Roy Bellamy]

You know, Tyler Hero is. But if you ever thought like, man, that controversy down there in Miami was Tyler Hero.

[Mike Ryan]

Like, he's never thought about. He's just.

[Dan LeBatard]

Guy's been a part of every superstar trade conversation for the last five years.

[Chris Cote]

Chris, just quickly, I don't want to break off Hawk, but like, basically what makes Tyler Hero a national thing is number one, the Damian Lillard talk. Number two. Was that clip that on me on his podcast that ran on tnt? Those are the two big things.

[Mike Ryan]

Had to be good for subscriptions.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was pretty good.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. Let's resurface.

[Chris Cote]

How's that podcast doing now?

[Dan LeBatard]

Let's not talk about it, putting up.

[Billy Corben]

The clip, not winning awards. And that is how you open up the club. If what you're doing is not looking to celebrate people and fun, I'll save.

[Dan LeBatard]

The exclusive reporting for next week.

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