The Big Suey: You Bet Your Sweet Bippy

Summary

Summary of "The Big Suey: You Bet Your Sweet Bippy"
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
Release Date: March 19, 2025

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, titled "The Big Suey: You Bet Your Sweet Bippy," hosts Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and their co-hosts delve into a variety of engaging topics ranging from the design of Miami's Loan Depot Park to the intricacies of managing team payrolls, handling on-field incidents, and discussions on pop culture. The episode is peppered with humor, insightful debates, and memorable interactions among the hosts.

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1. Ballpark Design Debate: Loan Depot Park vs. Traditional Ballparks

The episode kicks off with a heated discussion about Miami's Loan Depot Park. Jon Weiner expresses a strong disdain for the ballpark's design, criticizing its vibrant colors and unconventional layout.

Jon Weiner [04:10]: "I found it a garish design. I don't like the food options. I don't like being there. It's just not for me."

In contrast, Chris Cody defends the ballpark, highlighting its retractable roof, strategic location, and stunning views of the downtown skyline.

Chris Cody [05:24]: "I think the retractable roof was necessary and smart. I think the look over the outfield wall to the downtown skyline is gorgeous."

The debate underscores the tension between modern, flashy ballpark designs and traditional, classic aesthetics. David Sampson adds context by explaining the city's preference for a non-retrofitted park that reflects Miami's vibrant culture.

David Sampson [07:20]: "It was part of the deal that the project would not be an old style retrofitted ballpark. So it was never even a possibility."

2. Critique of Miami Marlins' Ownership and Payroll Management

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the management of the Miami Marlins, specifically scrutinizing owner Bruce Sherman. Mike Ryan initiates the conversation by questioning the show's perceived similarity to other podcasts and segues into criticizing the team's financial strategies.

Mike Ryan [08:36]: "Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast?"

David Sampson and Chris Cody respond by addressing the criticisms of Sherman being labeled the "cheapest owner" in sports. David emphasizes that the team's payroll is a reflection of its revenue challenges.

David Sampson [10:14]: "The Marlins are putting out a payroll that is really related to the revenue that they have, which is bleak."

Chris Cody further explains the lack of a strategic plan, pointing out the team's underperformance despite a reduced payroll.

Chris Cody [09:21]: "It's the lack of a plan. They're building toward a future that never gets here."

The hosts discuss the implications of overpaying for ownership and its subsequent impact on the team's financial flexibility, with David asserting the overpayment figures.

David Sampson [11:47]: "They overpaid by probably 4 to 600 million, given where the other bids were."

3. Handling On-Field Incidents and Legal Settlements

David Sampson provides an in-depth look into how the Miami Marlins handle incidents involving fans, such as being hit by foul balls. He outlines the negotiation process for settlements, emphasizing fairness and the legal disclaimers in place.

David Sampson [21:08]: "We call it a nuisance payment. But they, the people, file lawsuits because you get 1,800 lawyers who are willing to do it on commission 33%. So they will just waste our time and our money."

The discussion explores scenarios where fans are injured and the team's approach to settlements, highlighting the balance between legal responsibility and financial pragmatism.

David Sampson [22:49]: "But they, they people file lawsuits because you get 1,800 lawyers who are willing to do it on commission 33%."

4. Pop Culture and Monologue Discussions

Shifting gears, the hosts delve into a conversation about memorable monologues in television and film. Jon Weiner references his appreciation for standout performances, mentioning classics like "Jaws" and "A Few Good Men."

Jon Weiner [37:48]: "Jaws had a great one. A Few Good Men had a great one."

David Sampson shares his admiration for Sam Rockwell's monologue in White Lotus, comparing it to iconic scenes from other films.

David Sampson [39:08]: "It reminded me of the Christopher Walken monologue in Pulp Fiction in terms of subject matter."

The exchange highlights the hosts' appreciation for powerful acting performances and their impact on storytelling.

5. Light-hearted Interactions and Humor

The latter part of the episode is filled with playful banter and humorous exchanges. The hosts joke about Chris Cody's father, Greg, and his attempt at humor, leading to a physical comedy segment where they encourage Greg to swing a bat.

Tony [41:42]: "I don't want to leave you alone on this, Dan, but I'm kind of with my dad on this one. That is funny. Him in a uniform and a helmet."

Despite Mike Ryan's hesitance and concern for safety, the segment culminates in laughter as Greg humorously swings the bat, emphasizing the show's light-hearted camaraderie.

Mike Ryan [43:56]: "I regret everything I did here."

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Throughout the episode, the hosts maintain a dynamic and engaging dialogue, seamlessly transitioning between serious critiques and humorous interactions. Notable quotes punctuate the discussions, providing insight into each host's perspective while keeping the conversation lively and entertaining. For listeners who haven't tuned in, this episode offers a comprehensive look into the complexities of sports management, the nuances of ballpark design, and the ever-present blend of humor and analysis that defines The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.

Transcript

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Chris Cody]

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[David Sampson]

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[Chris Cody]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[Mike Ryan]

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[David Sampson]

Welcome to the Big Suey, presented by DraftKings.

[Mike Ryan]

Why are you listening to this show?

[David Sampson]

The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast? I'm sorry. I'm not gonna apologize for that.

[Greg Cody]

In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.

[Mike Ryan]

I have been tempted and wrestling restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it.

[David Sampson]

And now here's the marching man to Nowhere Fat Face and the habitual liar.

[Tony]

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[Mike Ryan]

David Sampson is here from Nothing Personal. He is doing it every day. It continues to grow and he covers a ton of of stuff that I do not see other people in sports covering. So you should check out. Nothing personal. We have a number of things to talk to you about, David, but I guess the place that I should start is that I just heard Greg Cody and Chris Coady have a conversation in which the following was revealed and I want to know, at what age will Chris Cody stop doing what I'm about to say? Okay. At what age will he be as a son before he stops doing this to his father? His father likes to dictate into the phone instead of texting just a note to his wife or whomever. Hey, I'm going to stop by and grab some avocados, period. And his son shouts from the distance, cock balls.

[Tony]

To see if it picks it up. And it does. Sometimes it's a laugh riot when it does.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay. And so my question to you is how. When will Chris stop doing that? Like when is that. That's off limits at some age, is it not?

[David Sampson]

I assume only when his heart stops beating. I think that a cockballs joke that can go all the way to 120.

[Tony]

This guy gets it easy.

[David Sampson]

David gets it.

[Chris Cody]

I don't mind it. It's fun.

[Tony]

You do seem to. You do mind it when I do it when we're in it.

[Chris Cody]

But afterward I'm laughing out loud at the whole absurdity of it.

[Mike Ryan]

Like you would with a 3 year old that misbehaves.

[Chris Cody]

Right. I don't think I've ever failed to catch it though, and sent that to my wife.

[Mike Ryan]

That's the gold standard, right? That's. As a practical joke. The best thing is that he didn't hear it. Timing was often at exactly that moment, he sends it and he embarrasses himself sending a text to Pat Riley.

[David Sampson]

It's like asking whether or not a fart joke will ever be not funny, is it? I think the answer is no. It's always funny.

[Billy Gill]

He's always funny.

[Mike Ryan]

Before you were on with us, I think you would have found blasphemous and hurtful some of the things that Mike Ryan was saying about his appraisal of Lone Depot park as a baseball park. And I just like for him to say them to your face, because I have before.

[Jon Weiner]

And he takes it deeply personal because he designed every aspect of that. And I understand. And I'm not conflating what they ended up doing with the franchise afterwards. It just never was for me. I know Jeffrey Lauria fancied himself this big art expert and he was going for something that just wasn't for me. Art is subjective. My whole thing is pick a color. You know, it was every color at the. At the start. I found it a garish design. I don't. I don't like the food options. I don't like being there. It's just not for me. I. I know that that is not what David intended. This was supposed to be a communal thing. I guess I'm on the line of like more traditional. And they were really going for something that was really different. And I guess it works for some people. Just never worked for me. It bothers me all the time. It bothers my ears, it bothers my nose. It bothers my eyes, I think the state.

[David Sampson]

Do you feel better?

[Jon Weiner]

I mean, I'm sorry to do that to you again.

[David Sampson]

No, I'm just asking, like, I'm hoping. I want you. In light of the irresponsible journalism that happened and befell the show about mental illness. I'm just asking, do you feel better telling me that you don't understand signage or you don't understand the concept of sales or quadrants? I'm just curious. If you don't like Miro, do you feel better?

[Jon Weiner]

No, not really. Like, I like Camden Yards, dude. I like Comerica. I like. I like other ballparks. I don't like this one.

[Tony]

Did you see, David, where it was ranked? That's what we're talking about. There was a ranking of the MLB. There was a third column, 63 of 90.

[Mike Ryan]

Greg Cody had an opinion here, though, that he wasn't allowed to express.

[Chris Cody]

I mean, I think it's a great little ballpark. I think. Condescending. No, I think the capacity is just the right size for this franchise right now. I think the retractable roof was necessary and smart. I think the. The look over the outfield wall to the downtown skyline is gorgeous. I think there's a lot good about it. And I'm not going to retrofit that because I object right now to the way the club is being run by the cheapest owner in all of sports, Bruce Sherman. I could go on and on about that, but I think the ballpark itself is perfectly fine. I like the location as well.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, I love the location. Look, I think I've been to most of the MLB ballparks and this one is just not for me. If you like it, I'm not going to hold it against you. I just Fancy, you know, 20 other ballparks more than this one. And I guess I'm more of a traditionalist when it comes to ballparks. I've never had a good time in that place, David.

[David Sampson]

Well, that's not true. That's not true at all. You have had a good time because you've gone to a game with your daughter and you said that you had a very good time and made a memory with her.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah. So I'd like you to take back.

[David Sampson]

We left after three, so you had a great hour.

[Jon Weiner]

I was there with friends. Like, there's just nothing. I don't like the sweets. I don't. I don't like the lower level. I don't have good times there. I didn't even like the Guns N Roses. Concert.

[Mike Ryan]

I thought the food was good. I thought the food. Has it gone down in the last two and a half years?

[Jon Weiner]

Never liked the food.

[Tony]

When it first opened, they had like the Cuban little corner out there. Like, that's gone.

[David Sampson]

Taste of Miami. Yeah.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah. It's just 13 years ago. This is not for me.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm sorry.

[David Sampson]

It's not a new ballpark anymore. Let me start with that. This is now entering season number 14. But what I also will say, Mike, about Comerica and about some of the traditional ballparks. When it was being negotiated with the city of Miami and the county of Miami Dade, nobody wanted a traditional park because they felt that would not reflect Miami and the newness and the new money and the Latin aspect of Miami. No one wanted a Camden Yards. It actually was part of the deal that the project would not be an old style retrofitted ballpark. So it was never even a possibility.

[Jon Weiner]

I get that. It does also age buildings prematurely. When you go for a more contemporary look and, you know, 20 years go by and then all of a sudden you wonder what someone was thinking there.

[David Sampson]

But in Vegas, Mike, they're building the same looking thing. They're building the Sydney Opera House again in Vegas. And it's not. It's closer to Marlins park than it is to Comerica.

[Jon Weiner]

This is not that complicated of a disagreement. I understand why you like it. I understand why this coming from.

[Mike Ryan]

But you called it a bleep hole. You did call. I called Lone Depot Park.

[Jon Weiner]

Oh, yeah. No, I called it a hole. Yeah, I called it a hole.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jon Weiner]

I don't like it. It's bad. It's bad. Not good.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's get into what Greg Cody was saying here before we get into the topics of the day. Greg was saying that Bruce Sherman is the cheapest owner in all of sports. Does he have that right?

[David Sampson]

Oh, I think that that's an argument that people in Pittsburgh would say that Bob Nutting is. I think that people in Chicago would say that Jerry Reinsdorf is. And I think I could probably keep going and go city by city. You have total location bias in that. And the fact of the matter is, the Marlins at the payrolls they've had, they should have been able to win because there's teams in the playoffs every year. Even the Marlins themselves were in the playoffs only a few years ago. And so far be it for me to defend Bruce Sherman, except to tell you that I think it's the results that you're playing, not the payroll.

[Chris Cody]

Well, it's the. It's the lack Of a plan. They're building toward a future that never gets here. They're fielding a minor league lineup this season. A month from now they probably will trade their only star, Sandy Alcantara, once he proves he's healthy with four or five starts. And their minor league system. I saw the pipeline ranking. They're only mid pack right now. It's not as if they have a top three minor league system where the immediate future is guaranteed. He is spending egregiously low. They lose 100 games last year and the payroll falls by $36 million. If I were MLB or the players Association, I wouldn't stand for the inexcusably low spending that. Bruce.

[Mike Ryan]

But they have a floor, don't they? Like when all of this is bargained right, David? Like what he's saying you wouldn't stand for it. They do stand for it. It was negotiated well.

[David Sampson]

There's no actual salary floor. I think what you're referring to, Dan, is that the union has an opportunity to file a grievance and there was a grievance filed against us and many other teams over the years. When the union thinks the payroll is too low, it should be very telling to you. If no grievances filed against the Marlins this year, it means that the union looked at the books, which they do every year. They get our financial statements and they see exactly the revenue and they see the losses. And therefore they see that there is no grievance to be won. Sometimes they just file it for pr, but other years they know there's nothing they can do. The Marlins are putting out a payroll that is really related to the revenue that they have, which is bleak.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you take some sort of weird devilish satisfaction being in the middle of the idea that you helped ruin the business down here because they can't afford anything because they spent too much buying the team from you?

[David Sampson]

No. I take pleasure in knowing that that is the laziest take of all time from someone of your stature. That you would say that an ownership group because they paid too much. It's like saying you bought a house for too much so therefore you don't mow the lawn. It's completely ridiculous. Or you let the pool turn into moss because you paid too much for the house. Did they overpay for the Marlins? You bet your sweet bippy they did. But that is nothing.

[Mike Ryan]

How much? By $300 million? By $400 million? How much did they overpay by something that would make for a nice payroll if they were spending it there?

[David Sampson]

They overpaid by probably 4 to $600 million, given where the other bids were.

[Tony]

David's right, though. But they bought it, so it's yours.

[David Sampson]

Not my problem. Do something take satisfaction. It's if you overpay for a house or a car or a piece of memorabilia or you overpay in whatever it is you're doing, that means you can't allocate toward other things that really has nothing to do with the seller at all.

[Jon Weiner]

Famously, Dan, you went at Major League Baseball for not doing their due diligence and making sure that this was not something that the ownership group overextended itself. And part of the business plan was that they were gonna cut because they did overextend themselves. I don't wanna pick at old wounds anymore. I wanna talk to you as, like a former team president, though there was a. I guess he's okay now, so we can kind of laugh at it, but Tracy Morgan vomited courtside at Madison Square Garden, which will probably be a meme forevermore, as well as his photo of him rec. But how, from a team ops perspective, Tracy Morgan throwing up courtside is probably treated differently than a regular Joe Schmo is, such that they are sitting courtside would be treated. How do you think those conversations go? How would they have gone if something similar were to happen in your line of work?

[David Sampson]

We actually rehearsed that, Mike. We rehearse if something happens that interrupts the field of play. You rehearse it with your cleaning crew, with your security, what you would do if there has to be a stoppage. Because normally it's going to be a spilling of beer or a throwing of popcorn or something that would get on the field. But of course, you plan for the occasional vomit. And the way you do it is you are sprung into action. You've got people who are assigned the mop, people who were assigned the pale. You've got people who are assigned to spray. You've got people who understand what to do about giving free stuff to the people next to where the vomit happened or where the spill happened in order to make sure that your customers are happy. So you go right to page 68 of the playbook. And that is what the Knicks did. And you keep on going. So it doesn't matter whether it's Tracy Morgan or a person to be named later or nameless later, they very well knew what to do. And it's gross, but it's the least gross thing. At the end of the games, I would get a report and it wasn't labeled this. But I would label it like the top 10 grossest things from the game. Like what happened in the bathroom at section 104. And you get a report of, hey, there was a stuffed toilet or there was a spill, or there was people who were overserved and vomiting barely makes your top 10.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, I had a follow up and now I have like 10 more follow ups. I guess I first want to start with when you rehearsed it, did you have like an actor with fake vomit that would fake vomit everywhere and then you do like a whole cleanup thing?

[David Sampson]

Yeah, but you don't do it with vomit. You do it with. You just spill stuff. You spill a liquid. We didn't put chunks in it. We didn't do anything like that to make it vomit. We would just do it with water. We wouldn't even do it with sticky stuff like beer. Even though beer is the most commonly thing, the most common thing that's spilled in your ballpark is beer. But no, you don't practice with actual beer.

[Dan LeBatard]

But then how is your staff ready if it doesn't smell bad or if it's not like a biohazard? I feel like you're gonna take different stuff steps there to clean it up than if you just have fake water. Like, I don't think you're doing your staff a service by having, you know, just water.

[David Sampson]

Yeah, but I don't start a fire every time I do a fire drill.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, maybe if you did, you'd be better prepared for a fire.

[Chris Cody]

Wow.

[David Sampson]

Okay. I don't even know how to respond to that. I do not believe that it is appropriate to start a fire in order to practice what to do. Active shooter drills we do all the time. We don't have an active shooter who is actually shooting at people, but we are prepared with what to do when that happens.

[Mike Ryan]

That was unnecessary. Just unnecessary.

[Jon Weiner]

It actually seems pretty necessary given the times. But I'm wondering if you've ever had a similar situation with a vip. Doesn't necessarily have to be, you know, someone throwing up. But have you ever had an issue, health related or some other type of issue around a VIP that was in one of your ballparks?

[David Sampson]

I don't recall anybody even being overserved. Obviously. We have a lot of celebrities who came to games over the years, and I don't recall ever having to kick anyone out or having a crossword with them. I certainly recall throwing people out every game. There's people who go to the medical center and you get a full report of everybody who goes for liability Purposes, most of the time they're overserved or they've been hit by a foul ball, and you got to keep track of that. But I was never told over 18 years that, hey, there's a celebrity here, and if they're gonna be overserved, it would be in the suite where I was, and so we would be in control of that.

[Chris Cody]

David, I have a specific question to ask you, but first I have to hark back to something you said and make a point of clarification. When you use the phrase bet your bippy, what is the etymology on that?

[David Sampson]

It is just me trying to appeal to you and the demographic that you bring when you're on the show. And I believe the expression is bet you're sweet bipp.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, because you need to stop doing all of that.

[Tony]

Why did you say yes?

[Chris Cody]

No, because he's right.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony]

But sweet bippy.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay.

[Chris Cody]

And it reminds me, it's from laughing.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, let's.

[David Sampson]

Dan, just give me 10 seconds. Just pretend you're not there and that Greg is running the show. Greg, I have been saying bet your bippy on Nothing Personal, and I had someone reach out to [e-mail] who was in college who loved laughing and said, you're doing it wrong. It's bet you're sweet bippy, and I've never seen.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, Laughing for Laughing for the uninitiated is a 1960s comedy television show. 1970s, maybe 1970s.

[Chris Cody]

Groundbreaking.

[Mike Ryan]

1970S. Please.

[Tony]

Groundbreaking.

[Mike Ryan]

Please stop doing that.

[Chris Cody]

Rowan and Martin.

[David Sampson]

Do you ever talk about Seinfeld?

[Mike Ryan]

Please, Tony.

[Chris Cody]

Those are just as old.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay? Educate yourselves. No, no, no.

[David Sampson]

Yes.

[Mike Ryan]

No. Laughing is 20 years, 20 years earlier than those. Laughing is like one of the original television comedies.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

Ruth. Buzzing.

[David Sampson]

As you get further away from when their start date was, you start to conflate it. And if I told you right now to guess what year the Civil War started, I would hope that you'd say, hey, sounds like 1865. But if you said 1845, I'd say wrong. But close.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, it started in 1968. I'm asking you to eradicate it from your lexicon or update your lexicon. Let's do top five. Chris, Cody, get the fanfare ready. Top five grossest things. David Sampson has gotten in one of those end game reports. Number five. David.

[David Sampson]

Number five is a adult who had an accident outside of the bathroom. It's a nightmare.

[Mike Ryan]

Number four.

[David Sampson]

Number four is someone who thought it would be wise to take their beer cup and fill it with ice cream. And then drop it on somebody in a fight.

[Mike Ryan]

A good move.

[David Sampson]

It's a terrible move. It's disgusting. And it caused us to actually have to know number three. The number three grossest thing that ever came to my desk after a game was when the bat boys with an opposing team, and I don't want to make up the team because I can't remember, they had a tobacco combination that I hadn't seen before that they couldn't get off the dugout floor. And it caused extra time, which was extra money to get the dugout ready. If you've never seen a dugout after a game, you don't know what I'm talking about. But it is heinous.

[Mike Ryan]

It's sticky. Sticky brown. Disgusting.

[David Sampson]

Sticky brown and disgusting. Which could describe my number two. Number two. And this is just me with children. I did not want to put any children's bathrooms or changing areas. And the second grossest thing, which to me is very patently offensive, is when somebody, and has happened more than once, left dirty diapers. Not in a refuse place. They left it out in the open. That is unacceptable, Period.

[Mike Ryan]

All right, so sticky brown. And when you said number two there, were you saying your number two or were you saying your number two in the rankings when you.

[David Sampson]

That was my number two in the rankings.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, number one.

[David Sampson]

The grossest thing that ever happened to me is when someone got hit with a foul ball and it opened a gash in their head. And it was their fault because they were on their phone and it was a quick settlement. But when you go visit them and they're going into the ambulance, it is really gross because the head really does bleed tremendously. And a ball. Foul ball can really open up the noggin. And I found that to be gross. Even though I'm a fan of medical shows like Grey's Anatomy, that did not make me happy.

[Tony]

I feel like throw ups worse than a lot of.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah, barf is worse than that.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, it was their fault. Was unnecessary foul ball and a quick settlement. What? You just walk up and write a check for four grand and be like, sorry. And then that person left with blood all over the check.

[David Sampson]

It's funny. You don't start with four grand. You start with a signed ball and a jersey and you work your way up if you absolutely have to.

[Mike Ryan]

Well, what was the settlement? I need to hear my, like, why did you offer up. It was their fault. They were in the phone.

[David Sampson]

Oh. Because that's the first thing we do. We go to the videotape and we see Whether or not someone who gets hit in the noggin was on their phone. Because if not, then we settle for more. If they're on their phone, we settle for less. If we see that someone's paying attention to the game and they get hit in the head, we're going in. Forget the ball. We're going to start with a meet and greet. We may even start with the first pitch.

[Chris Cody]

Now, wait a minute. Isn't there a disclaimer on the. In fine print on the back of a ticket that says, essentially, that says, if you get hit by a foul ball, it ain't our fault?

[David Sampson]

Yeah. And that is the truth. That's the legal truth.

[Mike Ryan]

Just like that.

[David Sampson]

But they, they people file lawsuits because you get 1, 800 lawyers who are willing to do it on commission 33%. And so they will just waste our time and our money. So we call it a nuisance payment.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, so you have never, you never contested one of that such claim.

[David Sampson]

We went pretty far with several of them because they were being so unreasonable, but we never actually went to trial. So every one of them ends up as a settlement, but it's just a matter of when you settle.

[Chris Cody]

And what's a typical settlement? 5k less than that?

[David Sampson]

It depends. 5k is a good number. If you get yourself 5k from a little knock. We didn't really like paying people who said, oh, my back hurts, my shoulder hurts. I want to see blood for 5k. I want to see bruising. I want to see. I want to see seams in your arm for 5K. Like, don't tell me you have a headache. I'm not interested in that.

[Tony]

But I'm just like, so like a screaming line drive foul ball. If you go back and look and they're on their phone that, like, you're like, up. We're clear like that. Well, some foul balls are like, I get you on, like, the lofty foul ball, but like a screamer down the baseline. You're, like, up there on their phone. We're good.

[David Sampson]

That's utility infielder sign jersey.

[Mike Ryan]

Okay, I want to play this game. Let's play this game. Come up. I want you guys to give me some scenarios here and then just have him say, here's a Mike Lowell bobblehead. That's what you open the bidding. Because what's happening here is so wrong. Like, he's saying somebody did something and made a negotiation point that was unreasonable. My. My thinking is that person is probably more reasonable than David getting there, trying to immediately negotiate with a Bobblehead while that person hemorrhages from the head, hit with a screaming line drive and wasn't prepared for a negotiation that arrived with settlement to a person who is to be taken advantage of bleeding from the face and David's there with $5,000. What are you saying is unreasonable in that circumstance?

[David Sampson]

Listen, some people like Ameziga, I don't really understand your position here that you're saying that I'm being unreasonable. Some people are more than happy to take away signed items from a game.

[Jon Weiner]

What if before the nets went up during your time at Pro player, a bat went into the stands? Even if they're not on their phone, that's harder to get away from. How does that negotiation go down?

[Tony]

You get to keep it.

[David Sampson]

I love where your head is because bats are a different story than balls. And the way you work with bats is you don't get to keep the bat that hits you because often the player wants it back. So we promise the players that we will go for a trade. And that's a twofer. You get two unused actual bats for every gamer that hits you when you're in the stands. So that's the general rule. Now if the bat splinters and it's wedged in your arm, then you keep the broken bat because the player doesn't want it. On top of that, you're invited back and you may even get to meet the player, depending on how wedged in the wood is.

[Tony]

I'm picturing the bat like through someone's arm.

[Jon Weiner]

That's a good deal for an impaling.

[David Sampson]

That's the rate of impalement.

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[Jon Weiner]

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[Mike Ryan]

Don Lebatard. You don't remember the idea.

[Tony]

I was probably, like, that kind of thing.

[David Sampson]

Something.

[Chris Cody]

Okay, no, the home run call was that kind of swing. That kind of thing.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugats.

[Chris Cody]

Oh, it's a good call. Thank you. And plus, it doesn't matter who's hitting it. Like, you're not tailoring it to a particular name. You know, all that jazz, you know, you don't got to do that. Oh, that would be a great call. Swing. That kind of thing.

[David Sampson]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the stugats.

[Mike Ryan]

I.

[Jon Weiner]

It's true.

[Mike Ryan]

I can't help, okay, but betray one of our colleagues here. And I regret that I'm doing this, but I can't unsee it right now because Tony's been shaking his head the entirety of this segment, like, genuinely, seemingly appalled at how clinically cutthroat you are about not being human. But I read his lips a second ago, and I don't know who he's talking to, but he said, I saw it. Evil. The word evil. Like, who are you talking to back there, Tony? Because the entire time that would have been good on air, but I saw it off air.

[David Sampson]

It was.

[Billy Gill]

It was said into my microphone to somebody who works in the back room, who is Louis. And he was talking about how, wow, I can't believe it. All this time that we were going to these games, high above the press box, David Sampson looking down at somebody getting hit in the face of the ball and being like, I want.

[Mike Ryan]

I want you to imagine 9,000 fans are there and somebody comes out with a piece of bat in their arm, impaled, bleeding, scared.

[Billy Gill]

Give you two other bats.

[Mike Ryan]

How about that 14 year old kid? And he's like, hey, you want a Miguel Rojas ball kid?

[Jon Weiner]

Yes.

[Chris Cody]

A John Bertie autograph.

[David Sampson]

David, Laugh as you want, but kids actually get premiums. That. That is where that is.

[Billy Gill]

Does have a heart.

[David Sampson]

Listen, I'm not heartless at all. If you're an impaled kid, that is worth more than an impaled adult.

[Tony]

David, what if. What if mom slips in the bathroom and really, like, hurts her back?

[David Sampson]

What kind of shoes is she wearing? Heels. To a game?

[Chris Cody]

Yeah. High heels?

[David Sampson]

Yeah.

[Tony]

No, just normal shoes. Normal shoes. Sneakers.

[David Sampson]

Normal shoes is worth something. If you're wearing rubber sole shoes and you trip because we have a wet spot. So that's something the cleaning crew knows during the sign.

[Tony]

No sign up that says wet floor.

[David Sampson]

So we've got these yellow V shaped things that you put in the bathroom when there's the wet spot and that absolves you. That's how you get to the utility. If we don't get to. You could be looking at a lower ball for that. If you slip and fall in a wet bathroom or concourse where there's been something that's spilled, you're getting starting nine. Wow.

[Chris Cody]

So if I slip and fall on a soiled diaper that hasn't been picked up, I get to bat fourth in the next game like that.

[David Sampson]

It's about the worst case scenario for me. As someone who would trip on that sort of item. I never had that happen. So I never had to make that negotiation. So I don't know where it would end. But you would clearly have the upper hand were you to take advantage.

[Jon Weiner]

Hypothetical for you, there's a fight in the fish tank in the outfield at Pro Player Stadium. Your security is late to get there. There's pushing and shoving. One of the people involved in the fight gets shoved onto a patron that is sitting behind them, not involved at all in the fight. They get hurt in it. What is your liability there and ensuing settlement?

[David Sampson]

Well, you said pro player, so I'm in the clear. Because I'm a tenant, a pro player, I didn't control the security of player. And so while it would make me angry that security would be late to a fight like that, that would be a Dolphins Wayne Huizenga slash Steven Ross issue.

[Jon Weiner]

Okay.

[David Sampson]

Loan Depot.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah.

[David Sampson]

If that would happen, we would have a problem because it is not the expectation that there would be a third party who would get hurt in a fight. So that person would have two causes of action, one against the people who were fighting. And the odds are depending on where the seat location is. And I'm being general, but it generally works, is that you're not going to get much blood from a stone in that regard, which is how the team then ends up getting sued. We would then counter sue the two people fighting and we would figure out how to get the insurance companies to settle if that third party actually did get hurt.

[Dan LeBatard]

So you think Bob Nutting is cheaper than this?

[David Sampson]

Wait, I'm sorry, You're calling me cheap because of payroll or because of how items are settled in a legal situation?

[Dan LeBatard]

Just general unwillingness to. To give things away.

[David Sampson]

Oh, I think that the people who work for me and the fans in general would say that that is not my reputation at all. Actually. My reputation is that when people are deserving, they get paid. And when people are deserving, they get items. When there is something that I made a mistake on or my staff did. Who reports to me, of course, I'm responsible for that. And I would never shy away from responsibilities. What I will not handle or stand or pay for is people trying to get one over on me, trying to get something for something they don't deserve.

[Billy Gill]

Dave, what if I'm in the outfield? Home runs coming my way, I'm tracking it, right? I'm tracking in the bleachers. All of a sudden I lean over the side and then I fall and I tumble into the Clevelander. All of a sudden, right?

[Mike Ryan]

Or onto the field.

[Billy Gill]

Or onto the field or something. I fall 10ft, 20ft. What happens?

[David Sampson]

Ejected, immediate ejecting. If you're hurt, we'll take you to the ambulance, to the hospital. But if you in any way get onto the field of play going for a foul ball or not, you are immediately ejected. There are signs up that is very clear on your ticket and signs in the ballpark that you may not interrupt or go onto the field to play.

[Billy Gill]

What if I'm in the Clevelander? Like I fall in, but I fall into that lucky back area? Lucky me.

[David Sampson]

I would say that anyone who by mistake gets into the Clevelander, architecturally that is impossible. The only people who could get into the Clevelander would be your left fielder in that manner. It would be very difficult, the way the ballpark is built, to fall into the Clevelander. I've never seen that, and I don't believe it's physically even possible.

[Tony]

Can prove how Little Tony's been to that ballpark.

[Mike Ryan]

So 25K painted baseball began yesterday. Billy Gill complains and says it's fake baseball. We have not talked about that at all. Is there anything worth talking about? The Dodgers win both games. The Dodgers unlikely to lose all season.

[David Sampson]

Well, I would say that if you have an over under from DraftKings or anywhere where the win total is 162, I would encourage you to put all of your hard earned money on the under. The Dodgers will lose a game. They're over under, I believe, is around 104 and a half, which is one of the top over unders you'll see. And what you saw in these two games is that even without Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts, they have the ability to score runs. Their starting rotation is deep when healthy and their bullpen is deep, especially with New Marlin, Old Marlin Tanner Scott, who they didn't even use for the save this morning. They went with Alex Vessia and they've just got options upon options. If they're healthy, they're going to win 110 games and they've got a chance to go for the Mariners record of 116. The Cubs are despondent. They flew all the way to Tokyo. No Freeman, no bets, and they still could not go away with a split. That's a crappy flight home today.

[Mike Ryan]

David, just before we get to your review from the week, I feel like I can say this without being prisoner of the moment and even understanding Mookie Betts and Freeman might get hur. You never know who's going to get injured. This is the best roster ever assembled, Correct. This is the best team. When you put an over under at 104 and a half that people are going to just assume you're going to win 100 games. There's never been anything like this. Correct?

[David Sampson]

I think there have been, Dan. I mean, that Mariners team I think was assembled and was. Was potentially a better team than what these Dodgers are. We saw what the Dodgers did last year when the rotation was completely injured. They still were able to beat the.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm not talking about injury. I'm talking about when you can go through 10 pitch like that, when you're. When your bullpen arms are going to get you from five through nine because you're stronger there than everyone, too.

[David Sampson]

It's deep, there's no question. And of course I'm jealous of it. You know, thinking back to trying to compete against that, you're saying to me, is that the best roster ever assembled? I'd have to. I'm not willing to make.

[Mike Ryan]

You can make the argument, is my point.

[David Sampson]

Yes, you can definitely make the argument. I mean, and you ought to make the argument when your payroll is almost $400 million and you've got Ohtani in at 46, which is where Ohtani is slated in that payroll. Because of how the math is done. You've got to be able to win games. It really makes Mets fans despondent when they think about the amount of money the Mets spend on players and they don't get the results the Dodgers are getting. You have to expect the winning that the Dodgers are doing.

[Jon Weiner]

David, I want to ask you about monologues on the big screen and on the small screen as well, because I was watching White Lotus and there was a great monologue, even though Goggins got in a couple of times. This was a monologue. And I'm curious, what are some of your favorite monologues you've ever seen on television or in movies? Jaws had a great one. A Few Good Men Had a great one. I'm curious your thoughts.

[David Sampson]

Malice Had a great one.

[Jon Weiner]

Yeah, I am. God, I guess.

[David Sampson]

One of my favorites.

[Jon Weiner]

It's probably not even the best Alec Baldwin monologue, though.

[David Sampson]

He's got two, so it's interesting. You're talking about the White Lotus and you're talking about Sam Rockwell. Who? His real life partner.

[Mike Ryan]

Spoiler alert.

[David Sampson]

What? Why is that a spoiler alert?

[Jon Weiner]

I actually don't think this is a bad spoiler. And I'll tell you why. I was checked out on White Lotus. I had no interest in it. Everyone said that it wasn't off to the greatest start. And then I saw a still on social media of Sam Rockwell in this scene with Walton Goggins. I'm like, I'm in. And I hopped on that moving train. So I think in this instance, a couple days removed. Mentioning that Sam Rockwell has joined the cast of White Lotus is a good thing to do.

[Tony]

It's a reveal. David, though, like that, that they. It wasn't announced before the show.

[Jon Weiner]

It's not like it's Brad Pitt. I know he's won an Academy Award, but I think Sam Rockwell can occasionally go to the grocery store and not get bothered is what I'm saying.

[David Sampson]

I think that you may see Tracy Letts at some point. When you ask people to go to Thailand for seven months, they're going to say, hi, I'm Leslie Bibb. I'll say yes, but I'd like to bring my partner. And Mike White says, your partner, Sam Rockwell. Bring him. We'll use them. And then Sam Rockwell appears. I don't think anyone who's paying attention was surprised to see Sam Rockwell on the screen. I think he said, oh, that makes total sense. Why sit in his room all day while his partner is filming and he ends up getting such a great starter.

[Mike Ryan]

That scene was just written for him, though. Meant to be more and more absurd. Like they coaxed him into doing that based on just writing what Mike is describing as Mike just compared that monologue ridiculous. To the greats of all time in the history of cinema.

[Jon Weiner]

It's Pitch Perfect. It's fantastic.

[Tony]

That is a good movie.

[Jon Weiner]

It's one of the greatest. Not Pitch Perfect, the movie. It's delivered by one of the better actors. I think generationally speaking, Sam Rockwell is one of the more talented actors of his time.

[David Sampson]

No, it reminded me of the Christopher Walken monologue in Pulp Fiction in terms of subject matter. Now, maybe that is considered spoiling, but the reason why it's getting so much attention is that a It's Sam Rockwell, one of the best actors alive. And B, it's done in a way that every time the scene continues and it almost looks like one take, you're looking and saying, there's no way he's gonna. Oh, my God, he just went there. Well, that's it. He won't go further. And then it's further and further. And then when you're done with the scene, you're saying to yourself, this is brilliant because you don't even know what it has to do with the show.

[Mike Ryan]

Nothing, Nothing, nothing.

[Jon Weiner]

Well, no, no, they established he's got A. And we know. We now know that he's pretty good at it.

[Mike Ryan]

Regardless, I'm going to let you go now, David, because you wanted some time on your review, and we do not have that time. So I want to make sure that we get that time next time. So just save that review. I want to make fun of Greg Cody for a couple of minutes. Thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it.

[David Sampson]

Take care.

[Jon Weiner]

Sorry about my opinions on Loan Depot, but for what it's worth, I also don't like Kaseya.

[David Sampson]

I don't feel better.

[Mike Ryan]

Nothing Personal is the name of the podcast. And I just want to address something here that happened during that segment where I had a private conversation with Chris Cody as everything was happening, because I'm just fascinated still after all these years by his father. Greg knows it's not funny. Like, he knows before he says. Says that it's not funny to say, and what would this penalty be? Would I get to bat cleanup during a game? Like, he knows aggressively that that's not funny. His comedic judgment, my entire lifetime has been better than that. But he cannot help himself. And so he has to get out there with what he knows to be just a shitty joke that we're all going to. We're all just going to stare at him and be like, all right, Greg, like, you know better than that. You know that joke's not any good.

[Chris Cody]

It's visual humor. When I say that, you have to picture me at my age in a ridiculous batting helmet, baseball uniform, dressed like this.

[Tony]

Oh, I have full baseball uniform.

[David Sampson]

Yeah. Full uniform.

[Billy Gill]

Yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I won number nine, which was my first number in Little League because it was my mother's favorite number.

[Tony]

Fun fact.

[Chris Cody]

But it's the visual. It's the visual. Me batting against a 98 mile an hour fastball is funny.

[Tony]

Look.

[Mike Ryan]

But here, look, look, Chris, this is the reason that I bring it up with you, okay? I believe it is totally 100% fair criticism from our audience that both you and I are too hard on your father. It's absolutely fair, but he knew before he said it that joke was shit.

[Tony]

I don't want to leave you alone on this, Dan, but I'm kind of with my dad on this one. That is funny. Him in a uniform and a helmet. Like, when you do the swing, you do the sound, too.

[Mike Ryan]

Do you do.

[Tony]

What would your swing sound like?

[David Sampson]

Like.

[Tony]

Yeah, yeah.

[Chris Cody]

I got bat speed.

[Mike Ryan]

No, you don't.

[Chris Cody]

I tell you that I may not make contact, but I got bat speed.

[Mike Ryan]

There's just no way. Let's see. Let's. Let's get a bat. Let's. I want. I want to see.

[Tony]

We have a bat here, actually.

[Mike Ryan]

I want to see in the cage here. We've got a bat here. You close this segment. You get in a stance. Camera people, get ready. Here we go. All visual. This is all going to be visual to get. And I. I don't feel safe in here.

[Chris Cody]

Here.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't. I don't. I'm going to le.

[Tony]

I'm going to normal Siiz bat.

[Billy Gill]

Can MLB bat there.

[Mike Ryan]

He's alleging that he has bat speed. We're going to get you near a microphone. I.

[Billy Gill]

Not next to the screen, though, please. Not next to the giant screen.

[Tony]

Yeah, let's not do this. He can't hear me. Dan, Tell him to stop.

[Mike Ryan]

Feel safe with any of this. I don't feel.

[Tony]

Dad.

[Billy Gill]

Watch with the backswing.

[Jon Weiner]

Greg, please watch the camera.

[Tony]

The camera behind you. The camera behind you.

[Jon Weiner]

Don't have the space for this.

[Chris Cody]

Whoa.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think he has bad speed. I don't think so.

[Chris Cody]

This is my bat speed, but slowly.

[Tony]

Please don't hit the camera.

[Billy Gill]

Please don't hit the screen.

[Mike Ryan]

Please be careful.

[Jon Weiner]

It's not a terrible swing.

[Mike Ryan]

This is.

[Tony]

It's not good.

[Jon Weiner]

Track it, Tony.

[Chris Cody]

I'm going.

[David Sampson]

Oh, the Clevelander.

[Tony]

Watch the hand gesture.

[Jon Weiner]

You're gonna hurt your finger that way, though. You're gonna hurt your fingers.

[Billy Gill]

Pull it up a little. Little bit, too.

[David Sampson]

A little low.

[Mike Ryan]

I regret everything I did here.

[Jon Weiner]

He does warm up his bat like a 1920s baseball player.

[Chris Cody]

I'm also a switch.