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Dan Le Batard
See a game last night, then I
Stugotz
was locked in on Cubs, Rockies. The Cubs scoring late, but then the Rockies 2 in the 8th and 1 in the 9th to win 3 2.
Mike Ryan
So disappointed in you. If there was ever a time for your baseball score update gag on social media, it was. It was last night.
Stugotz
I haven't put anything on Twitter in I don't know how long. I know.
Mike Ryan
I figured you lost your credentials.
Stugotz
No, I just haven't had any desire to go into what has become a cesspool. But that would have been a good time to put the joke up. At the end of that game. What is the game that I would have chosen? Athletics. Brewers. Like what I was.
Mike Ryan
I was dialed in. Astros. A's. Can you believe they blew that game?
Stugotz
Astros. I thought that was Astros. Anaheim.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. Angels.
Stugotz
I'm sorry. You were locked in.
Mike Ryan
I was so dialed.
Tony
He was exhausted last night. He went 2 for 2 from the field.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. Brian Mitchell Robinson.
Stugotz
So you played. Oh, Tony, you play. You guys played together last night.
Tony
I didn't play last night. I was obviously watching the game very astutely, but Mike went and played. And I actually got the text from my guy who invites us over to play. He's like, hey, 7:30. And I look at the time. It's 7:29. I'm like, yeah, an hour ago would have been great if you would have told me.
Stugotz
I am always a little worried by intramural role player who takes his role playing seriously. That guy is someone I'm scared of. You, Mike.
Mike Ryan
You should be.
Stugotz
Mike Ryan wants offensive rebounds. He wants to make sure to set good picks. That guy is not someone I ever want to be playing with or even have on my team.
Dan Le Batard
You set screens in?
Mike Ryan
Of course.
Dan Le Batard
Rabid dog Dick.
Mike Ryan
That's. What do you mean? You got to open up the shooters. You got to also seal the baseline. But this game was a lot tougher for me, Dan. A lot tougher for me to get the boards. You know why Black guys put it on the poll?
Stugotz
Please. Juju at Lebatard show. Do you allow picks in your pickup basketball?
Tony
Are we playing basketball? We're not playing basketball. I don't get it. So what do you want to do? Just run around? Sounds like you're three years old.
Dan Le Batard
I thought the poll was going to be, do black guys make it harder to get boards?
Mike Ryan
They're tall.
Stugotz
Zaz, you're objecting to the idea of plays in pickup basketball. And a role player who is setting a pick to help a teammate like
Dan Le Batard
Mike, if someone's hot in the Pickup game. You're on defense. If someone's hot in the pickup game, do you double?
Tony
Oh, it's not a double.
Mike Ryan
No, it's not a double. But, you know. All right, communicate. Like, communicate. I'll pick them up. I'll pick him up. You stay on ball. You stay on ball.
Dan Le Batard
Okay.
Mike Ryan
Sometimes we'll both collapse.
Stugotz
Let's close out on the shooter. But where's the line, though? Zaz is asking a good question on where the tipping point is on this, because if he's conceding to you, okay, I'll allow that you can do some picks in a pickup basketball game, but then you guys are saying the next step on that, which is doubling the hot guy, is the bridge too far.
Tony
There's no zone. There's no doubling. There's no boxing one. There's no trap at the half court. Like, all that stuff doesn't exist. You don't play basketball. You think of those things, obviously Zasting. So those things doesn't play basketball, doesn't play basketball in 25 years.
Mike Ryan
Yeah. This must be what it's like for Sean Payton at Oppressor when, like, some idiot.
Stugotz
Yeah, I'm gonna double. I'm gonna double him. Yeah. Why didn't you throw it on there?
Mike Ryan
Like, man, you don't play the game.
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Why would a bridge be too far?
Stugotz
I would assume that as a marching army tries to strategically get from place to place. There's a bridge that'.
Dan Le Batard
Far.
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Mike Ryan
Yeah.
Tony
It's too long.
Dan Le Batard
That's too.
Mike Ryan
Remember when James Cameron blew up the old one? That was awesome.
Stugotz
That was. Was that Schwarzenegger and James Curtis?
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Stugotz
Wfat Holy What a comeback. The San Francisco Giants are down eight headed into the bottom of the eighth, and they win the game with five in the eighth and five in the ninth. Wow is correct, Roy. And if your microphone is on, the audience would have heard it. Wow. Now it heard it too long and too loud because you've got the audio levels wrong. A wow too far. In the last half of the ninth, Zas, two Nationals pitchers threw 21 pitches and allowed five runs, four hits and a walk and got no outs.
Dan Le Batard
That's where you get screwed by the three batter rule.
Stugotz
What is the three batter rule?
Mike Ryan
He's right.
Dan Le Batard
You probably want to take one of those relievers out, but you can't because you got to leave him for three batters. Three batter rule.
Mike Ryan
That's a thing now? Yeah, how about that?
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It's been two years.
Couple years.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, I'm sorry.
Mike Ryan
Watch baseball. Good for you. Jerk.
Stugotz
Mike Wilbon was just on television saying, and this is a lot of experience that that man has, Mike Wilbon is saying that that's the most shocking result that he's ever seen covering basketball. And he's not prone to overreaction and hyperventilation. He usually does. Perspective. And I think even allowing for the idea that that comeback is more probable in today's game than it's ever been, it is jaw dropping. Stunning to see the spurs go from scoring the most points in a first half a road team ever has in the finals 76 to ending up at the end of the game with 106. To have the first half go better for the spurs the way that it did in a way that made it seem like that game was going to be easy to win. And to have the Knicks have a better second half statistically than the spurs had in the first half was stunning, Zaz. Truly epically stunning. Knicks fans will never feel anything like what this series feels like the remainder of their life. After seeing a bunch of playoff games that weren't any good at the end and a whole regular season that didn't have a lot of close games at the end and was filled with blowouts. Every one of these games has been decided in the last few minutes. And this one more improbably than you will ever see at the end of a basketball game. Plenty to dissect in all of the wreckage. But I do want to celebrate the Knicks more than killing the spurs, because I do think everyone's going to be killing the Spurs. Killing the Spurs. Killing the Spurs. If the Knicks thought they were going to win that game when they were down 29. They're the only people in the earth, on the earth, who thought they were going to win that game.
Dan Le Batard
I. Last night was such a great example of everything that I love about sports. And it doesn't even matter that it's the Knicks. And obviously the Knicks get no love in the Zaslav Mansion. But there were so many people, obviously everyone who was in the building, but just. Just Knicks fans, friends of mine who are Knicks fans.
Mike Ryan
You.
Dan Le Batard
You had one of the greatest moments of your life last night. And these people are so happy. And it. It reminded me of how I felt like, like two and really three years ago, even when the Panthers fell short in the Stanley cup final, when they didn't even win that series. Just how I felt throughout that run. The Knicks fan is experiencing that emotion that most of them have never, ever had because it's been over 50 years. I. I felt really good for those fans last night. It was so cool.
Stugotz
Very few fan bases ever have had what this one now does, where you have the confidence that you can come back from 29 down because you just did it to Cleveland a series ago when you were down 22. So at this point, I'm not actually sure how many people are leaving that building in the second half when in a lot previous history you would leave at halftime. You can't with the way those tickets are that expensive.
Dan Le Batard
Dan, you know what else I've never seen before? We're like 15 minutes after the game ended last night. It looked like no one left. They were all still there. The court was packed. It's like they stormed the court and all the fans were still in the building. They're playing music. The fans are dancing and singing. I've never seen that before.
Mike Ryan
Sorry. I'm watching Spanish television this morning. It's so good. What an atmosphere. What outfits.
Stugotz
Was Tracy Morgan crying last night? Put it on the poll at lebatard show Juju. Was it really strange seeing Larry David happy? Because I didn't know what to do with his happiness. He was courtside next to John McEnroe. A lot of people, if they are turning on Nick's fandom, they're turning on the celebrity. Celebrities. Like, they don't like to see the Hollywood elite that kind of happy.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, but you know what? I think there was. There was a massive difference, like everything that we wanted. If you're a unbiased fan, you're into, you know what's going on. It's going to be a scene. Everything that we wanted to see in game three from that atmosphere at the Garden we got in game four because as it turned out, all the celebrities were there in game three. So many Fugazi fans who are there. As far as the celebrities, last night felt like the real celebrity fans. You know, Larry David and McEnroe and Mariska Hargitay and Tracy Morgan and like Chalamet and Stiller Seinfeld, it felt like those were the real celebrity fans. It felt totally organic and real.
Stugotz
Last night we came very close to the amazing blessing of having all of those people spend all of that money on tickets and leave with just two enormous heartbreakers of basketball games. It has been a great series.
Dan Le Batard
It's a classic.
Stugotz
Well, I just don't know which one's better, the hockey or the basketball. Like in terms of where it is, we are on both of them. I'd also ask you, is the difference so far in that series a potential Alvarado backcourt violation?
Tony
Not a backcourt completely clean.
Stugotz
I said potential. I said potential. De' Aaron Fox did a million things wrong at the end of that game.
Mike Ryan
Oh my God.
Stugotz
One of them was fouling that immediately when Alvarado was in real trouble as he was about to fall over the half court line.
Mike Ryan
I get wanting to tout the fighting spirit of the New York Knicks. They put themselves in position to win that game. They did not give up. I this is. I understand why you want to celebrate them. You're a huge Knicks fan. This is about the spurs choking in epic fashion.
Dan Le Batard
Also, the spurs lost. The Knicks didn't win.
Mike Ryan
We're going to have that discussion a little bit. But look, I'm not used to these games. When you get to this far in the season, having teams execute so poorly, and I'm saying that too, of the team that came back from 29 down, like Josh Hart, put a Lobo mint under your pillow and dream big. You got let off the hook. You made two all time gaffes in that one. Potentially the almost back court. The mislay up when he was caught in between the dunk, the turnovers.
Tony
New York not boxing out Steph Castle when he got the rebound and put that up.
Mike Ryan
They did a lot of stuff down the stretch that isn't necessarily championship execution. But the Aaron Fox made an all time blunder multiple. Yeah, but the one at the end after he makes a big play. And again, championship level execution from the New York Knicks turnover pick six. The other way if you're playing in the first quarter. But in that situation, the time is way more valuable than making it Still a one possession game, but let's, let's
Stugotz
examine some of this for a second. Put it on the pole. Collapse or come back at Lebatard show. Collapse or comeback.
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Dan Le Batard
Don LeBatard I'm just here to say one thing.
Stugotz
The Knicks are back. Stugats. Ty Salibrand six points. Fraud.
Dan Le Batard
Everybody was like yo, he's better than Jaylah Brunson.
Stugotz
He's better than Janiks. Should attracted him.
Dan Le Batard
Fraud. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugach.
Stugotz
Before I get into the minutiae of this because there's a lot of good minutia here, including I think Dear And Fox acquired four stable at the end making three mistakes in the last 12 seconds. The Alvarado one being the least bad of the three mistakes. Let's play the sound though of Charles Barkley speaking for a whole lot of people here.
Charles Barkley
We saw the dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization. We saw they had a 25 point lead, took eight, eight straight threes like they thought to get like that was some of the most mismanaged stupid basketball. Hey, when you go a 29 point lead, the other team has to help you. The San Antonio Spurs. If New York Knicks win this game by doing some of the stupid ass stuff I've ever seen on a basketball court.
Stugotz
So that's harsh analysis and I don't know that it's inaccurate, but he speaks for a lot of people. After you watch the spurs after the Wemby flagrant and if he gets one more it's an automatic suspension. 6 for 35 they go 6 for 35 and 2 for 15 from 3. It was indeed a meltdown. I find fairly stunning what I'm about to say to you, which is Brunson in half his Knicks playoff games has scored 30. Plus last night between him and Anunobi they scored 69. The rest of the Knicks scored under 40. All of them. Knicks bench Alvarado made more shots the last nine minutes than all of the spurs did.
Dan Le Batard
Towns attempted five shots the bench.
Stugotz
Well, what happened the first minute of that game was crazy. It hurts. Well, but if you've paid tickets for that and that game keeps going that way, where they take Towns from you, when clearly from the beginning, the Knicks were going to work the whole offense through Towns. And he gets two fouls in one minute. And the spurs have to use one of their challenges in the first minute of the game. I thought all of that was enormous until it wasn't.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, yeah, it was enormous, but that was Towns also doing the thing where this has been a lot of his career, where he. He plays dumb. Those were fouls. You can't behave that way. He's hooking Wembanyama's arm. It's early in the quarter when he already has a foul. And then his third foul is a clear push in the back. He was playing dumb.
Tony
This is sometimes where the challenge pisses me off because it's like, all right, we're challenging the foul on Wemby, but hold on, we're going to give a foul to Kat because we saw him do something earlier in the play before the foul called, like, that's bs.
Stugotz
When Zaz's analysis is that's dumb from Wemby. And Barkley's analysis is, but the other guys were the dumbest team in the history of basketball. Civilization. You have some things happening in a game that are uncommon.
Charles Barkley
We saw the dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization. Wow.
Stugotz
Put it on the poll at Lebiton show. That's what an oh, wow sounds when it sounds like when it's at the microphone. Put on the poll at Lebitard show. Wood Popovich have been worth one point last night, yes or no.
Charles Barkley
Wow.
Stugotz
Would Greg Popovich have been worth one point? And let's see if we can hear Mitch Johnson talking after the game. Because the crowd noise around it makes it hard to hear the spurs coach who's supposed to be in a bit of a hermetically sealed cinder block sort of environment where people can in the media who are partnered with these leagues can get the sound they need from the people involved in the combat.
Mike Ryan
Okay, front row all the way to the right, Tom.
Mitch Johnson
Tomorrow, San Antonio express teams. The 30 points in the second half. What. What went wrong offensively in your mind? I mean, obviously a few things to score 30 points and a half. We got away from what got us the 76 points in the first half. Just in terms of putting pressure On a rim, rolling after screens running, continuing to find the paint, whether it's for ourselves or for a teammate. We got on our he and you know, miss some shots and then, you know, you don't get as many free throws and high, high percentage looks.
Dan Le Batard
Oh, wow, that was great.
Tony
It sounded like a laugh track in the background. They kept like putting up and down.
Dan Le Batard
You heard the, hey, hey. If like the scene in Elf when he's doing like the dances, credit to him, I would have got up and left.
Stugotz
Are you guys sure though, that that sounded all happy to you? Because I think in another context this might be in the realm of what it is jets fans were doing to Tim Tebow. Where to me, the way it sounds like it could sound like Mitch Johnson descended into hell. And that's the sound that you hear in hell.
Dan Le Batard
Save us.
Stugotz
Either New York fans happy is the sound you hear in hell, or New York fans sounding happy is hell for everybody. And so I'm interpreting it that way because a lot of people will tell you these are the worst fans in the world.
Dan Le Batard
Not a, not a good series for Mitch Johnson. Not a good series really. And the final two plays of the game, I think kind of encapsulate Mitch Johnson in this series so far, where the final play that Anna Nobe gets the tip, Mitch Johnson decides we're not going to guard the inbounds pass. We're not going to guard the inbounds pass. And it allows an anobi to essentially have a free run to the basket where De' Aaron Fox went 3 for 3 in those final possessions there, where he also then doesn't. He decides to stand around and not even block out an obi. But Mitch Johnson chose not to guard the inbounds pass and the inbounder got the winning basket. And then the very next play, Mike Brown says, we're going to guard the inbounds pass. And the play that they drew up was perfect. Dylan Harper, I think it was Harper Castle. Castle was going to have a wide open layup on the last play of the game. And Harper's pass got deflected by the inbounds defender, Carl Anthony Town.
Tony
Even at the littlest smallest leagues and levels, they always tell you the inbound. There's one of the most dangerous guys in the court because you turn your back and he's at the hoop scoring shot. And he had a 45 foot Runway
Dan Le Batard
to just fly like that. He looked like Superman.
Tony
He looked like Michael Jordan in Space Jam. All of a sudden his arm went,
Dan Le Batard
kept going up, up up, up, up that series from.
Tony
And then to have the touch of just like boop. Just like touching the ball and it going in.
Stugotz
Okay, so you guys say bad series for Mitch Johnson and I continue to tell you guys that sometimes the coach is going sideline is the one that we're going to concentrate on but the execution is what ends up mattering. So a couple of games ago I was telling you that Mike Brown got exactly the matchup he wanted and Mitch Johnson got exactly the one he didn't want. When it's de' Aaron Fox against Anobi, you've got your weakest offensive player who's on the court kind of hurt going up against their best defensive player. And by the way, Anunobe has been exceptional for them for years now. There was a time that this organization was thinking should we go Hardenstein or should we go an Anobi on who we're risk signing here? And they let Hartenstein go and they made sure that Anunobi was locked up and that guy for them this season has been an all star and keeps putting up these 30 point games where I didn't think that was something efficient. 30 point games is not something that I was going to see. Consistency consistently from Anobi early in his career.
Tony
Not only consistent and most efficient. It's the most efficient game in a finals game ever. I think he shot 58 from the floor, 56 from three and 92 from the free throw line. It's like one of the most incredible games.
Stugotz
One of his missed shots is the one at the end of the quarter that he lobbed three quarters of the court, hit the front of the rim like that. It's lunacy the way that that guy's accuracy from distance. I do not consider him a great three point shooter. He's fine, but I don't consider him a great three point shooter. I'm going to say again what the Knicks got from their bench last night other than Alvarado. It was two baskets, two Alvar. Alvarado ends up scoring more in the last nine minutes than the spurs did because of how epic the collapse was. But let's play the sound, please, because I want to compare these sounds. It's a happier New York feeling around Mitch Johnson. But let's go back to halftime of the butt fumble game where the jets are running back into the locker room and what you hear around the tunnel is this. This has not been altered in any way. Pathetic.
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Stugotz
Thanks, Mark.
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Stugotz
I want. Tebow. Save us. Is actually something I'd expect to hear in hell. If somebody was trying to escape, if a Jets fan was wearing a Jets jersey in, in hell, wailing and gnashing Tebow, Save us. Let's hear the sound though, around Mitch Johnson. While it's happier, I still think this is just hell after the Knicks have won.
Mike Ryan
Okay, front row all the way to the right. Tom.
Mitch Johnson
Mitch Tomorrow's born in San Antonio Express. The 30 points in the second half. What, what went wrong offensively in your mind? I mean, obviously a few things to score 30 points and a half we got away from. What got us the 76 points in the first half just in terms of putting pressure on a rim, rolling after screens, running, continuing to find the paint, whether it's for ourselves or for a teammate. We got on team our heels and, you know, miss some shots and then, you know, you don't get as many free throws and high, high percentage. Looks
Mike Ryan
seem pretty joyous. Seem pretty joyous.
Dan Le Batard
I, I want to go back to an anobi for a second and if, if we could hear OG Anunoby after the game when he's asked about, you know, the final play and how he feels, you know, going into the next game.
Mike Ryan
You just hit the game winning shot in an NBA Finals game in front of your home crowd. How does that feel?
Stugotz
It feels cool. I mean, everyone's pretty excited. I'm excited too. I'm excited too. We're all excited. We're enjoying it right now, but we're just focused on the next game now.
Dan Le Batard
I'll never forget, you know, he was on the Raptors. Either he was a rookie or it was his second year when the Raptors won the championship in 2019, and there was one game where he hit a monster three late in the game, which won the Raptors that game. And someone asked him, like, how do you stay so calm and cool there? And he was just like, that's my job. That's what I'm supposed to do. And that's how he is every game.
Stugotz
He's cool, he's stoic. Brunson, Brunson has some of this. I will say again, I noticed this again last night. I don't know if anyone cares. So often we are discussing and dissecting under a microscope some of the minutiae here around these teams. As soon as that game ended on the court still, while the fans are going crazy and it's a crushing, historic loss for the Spurs, Wemby on the Court is immediately going and applauding with de' Aaron Fox telling him, it's okay. We still are good. It's just an unusual reaction to have in that moment when your entire reason for working in sports has just come crashing down at your feet in the way that is nationally and internationally embarrassing and makes Charles Barkley say this after the game, echoing afterward, we saw the
Charles Barkley
dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization. Wow.
Dan Le Batard
I mean, that last sequence, man, like Fox missing the layup, we'll be missing.
Mike Ryan
The two free throws of the minute
Stugotz
47 left was excellent.
Mike Ryan
What do you think he was doing with his head? Was he saying, like, settle down, or was he doing, I'm in your head?
Dan Le Batard
Oh, no.
Stugotz
That.
Mike Ryan
And then he missed two free throws.
Tony
I felt like Dillon Brooks on the sidelines. I was just watching, like,
Stugotz
that was the first quarter where Wemby's pointing to his head telling Mitchell Robinson, I'm in your head. And then Mitchell Robinson gets the flagrant for putting an elbow in Wemby's neck.
Mike Ryan
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Stugotz
doing all kind of wild stuff when
Dan Le Batard
he threw the ball off the glass
Stugotz
to himself and yammed it. I was like wow, that's crazy. You're on perks st. You know what I mean that allegedly. Allegedly allegedly allegedly. Allegedly.
Dan Le Batard
This is the Dan Levatar show with the st.
Stugotz
Let me get to a couple of the things here, though, at the end of the game that I found most interesting, because everyone's going to be talking about de' Aaron Fox on the offensive end, because of course, you need to pull that ball out and kill time and dribble and get your free throws and not have happen what happened. If you have the ball in that situation up 1 with 10 seconds left, everyone knows you just hold on to the ball. You don't do anything. Well, de' Aaron Fox, even after the game, didn't think he had done something wrong. But I want to go to one of the other mistakes. Mistakes, because I don't know if people sort of were paying attention to this part. As good as Brunson was in that game, and that was his best game of the series, he had at the end, one shot where he just hits the backboard, where he's driving and he just hits the backboard.
Dan Le Batard
Clock was running down.
Stugotz
Yeah, yeah, the clock was running down. And there was another, the other shot he took. I don't think that's a good shot, but it's Brunson. It's your team. I will live and die with whatever Brunson does. If I'm the Knicks. I don't think it was a great shot from the distance. But the thing that I wanted to say about what happened there is when he releases the ball, Brunson is the only one who's further from the basket than Anobi. You cannot let him come from further away than anybody on the court other than Brunson to get in clean. And that was de' Aaron Fox's fault.
Dan Le Batard
He stood there.
Stugotz
So you've got the guy that they acquired for these situations to be a veteran sort of stick stabilization Force, doing three things in the last 12 seconds says like three things in the last 12 seconds. When you're like. Where you're like, Darren Fox, what are you. What do you. What are you doing? And so many, so much of the commentary after the game, immediately after the game, was people who had been watching basketball all their lives. Wilbon Barkley, Ernie Johnson. What the hell just happened? Was the. Was the verbal response from these people?
Dan Le Batard
Why, if you're de' Aaron Fox, they're not guarding the imbalance path pass. And so, okay, it's because you want to deny the inbounds. You want to, you know, try and keep the ball from actually being inbounded to Jalen Brunson. But once the ball is inbounded to Jalen Brunson, why are you helping Wemby
Mike Ryan
defensively, especially when you left so much time on the clock?
Dan Le Batard
But I'll tell you that shot, I know you're saying you don't like that shot by Brunson there. That was a fantastically high IQ play from Jalen Brunson for two reasons. The first one is Wembanyama is guarding him and he is so far from the basket. So he's keeping Wembanyama from being able to get a defensive rebound. And by taking the shot that early, you're allowing a potential tip in. Like it was an incredibly high IQ play from Jalen Brunson.
Mike Ryan
Shouldn't have had that much time. And it's on de' Aaron Fox and Dan said, like everyone in basketball knows what to do in that situation. Not if you were watching the broadcast. Broadcast. The broadcast didn't mention what a gaffe that was. That is an all time sports blunder. And if you were watching the broadcast, you would never know it. It was a huge botch by that team.
Tony
It wasn't great. But you're talking about three seconds, four seconds.
Mike Ryan
Yes. And that's the game. That's the game.
Tony
Because got the shot off with six seconds.
Dan Le Batard
Well, you don't get the tipping that
Mike Ryan
that ball went in under two seconds. That, that, that game is over.
Mitch Johnson
Over.
Mike Ryan
Remember that game is over that block.
Dan Le Batard
And maybe he makes both free throws and it's a three point game.
Tony
Okay, but, but here's the thing. You're talking about an amount of time that is not super significant. Because when that ball gets brought up the other way, Alvarado has to go almost have a backcourt and then he fouls him. Right. Like there's a span of time there,
Dan Le Batard
four or five seconds that wouldn't helping the middle of the court. And, and, and Fox doesn't even bother to try and trap it. She's like, here, let me take the foul. It was, it was. You had one player in the, in the Knicks that was playing with a high IQ and you had the other player with the spurs, both of them veterans who were playing very low iq.
Charles Barkley
We saw the dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization. Wow.
Stugotz
Think about one of the things that we're talking about here because I do want to examine what Zaslo is saying there about Brunson's high IQ play because I will live and die with whatever it is Brunson's doing. But that shot from that distance is not a great shot.
Dan Le Batard
He wouldn't have taken it when Wasn't guarding him. I don't believe you have him so far from the hoop.
Stugotz
But one of the things that was happening at the end of the game is the acquisitions that these teams made for this situation were on display where it's de' Aaron Fox against Alvarado. They traded for Alvarado during the season. Alvarado was being trusted there because Shamet has gone cold and is still getting some of the minutes. But they're trusting Alvarado in that situation. And so you've got a situation with five seconds left in a game zaz where it's not Brunson with the ball, it's not Towns with the ball, it's at half court. Somebody who doesn't have a lot of experience in the finals falling over the line with de' Aaron Fox guarding him. And I just want to go through with you guys some of the numbers here, even though I know that numbers talk is usually something that people tune out on, because I just think some of the numbers here are super interesting. So. So teams down 20 plus points the last two years in the postseason. The Knicks are 5 and 3 the last two years in that spot. The rest of the league is 4 and 71. And the the half, at the half, the knicks had made 15 shots and the spurs had made 14 threes.
Charles Barkley
Oh, wow.
Stugotz
So you had these display. Spurs basically starting as hot as is possible for a team. And then there's this stat before last night when teams are down 20 plus in the fourth quarter, they were 4 and 750.
Charles Barkley
Oh, wow.
Stugotz
So this goes in the all time bucket where you have some all time things. And Mike's right when he says, and I'm curious because the announcers can all always make this stuff worse. And I don't think de' Aaron Fox's move is gonna be considered an all time blunder because the announcing team didn't react to it as if it was an all time blunder. Usually the audience needs a little bit of permission to rally en masse and the announcers will help you with that. That was not the case last night. And I thought it was weird that they were a bit muted about all of that.
Mike Ryan
Did they get swept away in the emotion of that building? Did they not realize that the Aaron Vox was in a rush to make it one possession game? What was your reaction? Granted that that that place seemed nuts. It seemed like an insane asylum. I get not being like fully clear, but in my house I was by myself screaming, what are you doing? I don't know if you Guys reacted the exact same way. It felt dumb from the jump run to the corner.
Stugotz
My, my reaction, that's it. My reaction was that as soon as he's on the fast break on the left part of the lane, I expected him to go toward the basket and then veer off into the corner. And lo, every other NBA player in that situation knows to do, because you don't risk losing the ball. And specifically, right, this, this part is all like, okay, maybe if it's Brunson, maybe if it's Brunson, but not if it's that guy. Like Anna Nobi is their best defender. Like, that guy's locked down and that's not the guy I'm going after.
Dan Le Batard
I actually didn't say anything while I was unfolding because my wife was sleeping right next to me and I'm watching the tablet. It's on my stomach. I didn't want to wake her.
Tony
So you're kind of like a mime.
Dan Le Batard
You're like, yeah, yeah. And my son, my 14 year old son watching in his bedroom down the hall, he's screaming, you know, as the ball is into the background. I'm trying to be really, why aren't
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you watching it, like, with him?
Dan Le Batard
Why are you in bed watching, you know what happened? I, I had a very big day yesterday. I had a great day. I had a very big, very emotionally draining day yesterday. Dan, I saw he, man. So by the time the game's on, I'm emotionally drained. Okay? And at halftime, I, I almost shut the game off at halftime. Like, it was a terrible game.
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Everyone I was at bowling with, we agreed we're just going home. Yeah, this game's over. We don't need to go watch it anywhere.
Dan Le Batard
Terrible game. So at halftime, like, we all disperse. Me, my son, I got my cousin who's staying with us as well. We all dispersed to our separate bedrooms, like, all right, I'm going to go watch upstairs, you know, and that's, that's why it went out like that, because the game was bad.
Stugotz
Yesterday on the show, I was laughing with you guys because I'm always laughing at everyone's perpetual need to declare a series over before it's over.
Dan Le Batard
Series is over, Knicks.
Mike Ryan
How many times in that game did you say series is over? Spurs got this.
Dan Le Batard
I text my other son who is in New York right now. I just text him, yo, Knicks are came back and won.
Stugotz
Yeah. Barkley at the end or at the half of game three, said this series was over. But I wanted to ask, ask you about the analysis From Draymond Green after the game where he said, and this is a sentence that legitimately came out of his mouth, once the Knicks got it down to 12, it's a wrap. And I'm like, what are you talking about?
Mike Ryan
It's an arbitrary number. Green go single digits there.
Stugotz
10.
Dan Le Batard
Even though it's 12.
Mike Ryan
Dangerous lead in the stands. You're like, don't let us get this done. 10 is the magic number. It's like if we can be within 10 with 6 minutes left.
Dan Le Batard
12.
Stugotz
Though I originally thought that the Draymond Green audition was going to be sort of an internship to replace Charles Barkley. And I think he's exposed himself over this time where it's like, no, I don't really want to hear from you on some of this stuff. You're knee jerk and it doesn't have perspective. I also felt and put this on the poll as well at LeBatard show. Did Charles Barkley have the spurs on the money line last last night? Because that commentary is the commentary of someone who is most emotionally lost. A giant bet that they didn't expect to lose and is mad at a team and just calls them you dumb dummies.
Charles Barkley
We saw the dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization. Wow.
Stugotz
You dumb dummies. You stupid ass. You dumb dummies. You stupid ass. Was Charles Barkley's analysis. And I'm saying it's leagues better than Draymond Green's analysis, which was as soon as the Knicks got it down to 12, it was a wrap.
Mike Ryan
Don't want to be a hipster about these things. Swept away in it. It's a 90s ass series. I like it. I'm just really thrown by the lack of execution from both teams in an NBA Finals. We went from spo and pop to Mike Brown and Mitch Johnson and people not knowing basic basketball 101 level execution. It's no wonder that these teams winning these titles just go fade into the background now because I, I, I look at that like Wendy's going to be in the conversation as long as he's tall and healthy. But New York, you better win this.
Dan Le Batard
Probably stay tall, right?
Mike Ryan
Yeah, probably. But I, I don't know if these teams have staying power. I don't know if anybody has staying power. These teams aren't out executing anybody else. They're getting hot at the right time. It's just weird to see basketball played kind of, kind of this dumb as Charles Barkley described it. In the NBA Finals, we saw the
Charles Barkley
dumbest basketball team in the History of civilization. Wow.
Stugotz
This part has been great, though. Not much difference between those teams and all the games. Tight. Late is crazy. Like, this is. This is not what OKC was doing last year where they were just running roughshod over everybody. You have our undivided attention because everything here is late. Everything. Everything here is interesting. Everything here is close. And we know that there's not much difference between these two teams. I'm not sure how surprised anybody would be given how the spurs look in every first quarter, if the spurs won the next three games or if the spurs took it to seven and then lost in game seven at home. Because I'm pretty sure these teams are evenly matched, like whatever. Whatever the differences are between them. In three of the games, you have a bounce go differently. Literally a bounce go differently. And you. You've got a. You've got The spurs up 3 1.
Mike Ryan
I'm off the pulpit, though. Happy June. This is unreal. Every night there's a banger. NHL, NBA. Oh, for good measure, we're throwing in the best sporting international competition in our nation. We're just going to drop that in in the middle of this. And also the Heat might get Giannis.
Dan Le Batard
Tony, you know about that Stanley Cup Final tonight?
Mike Ryan
Nah.
Tony
What's going on?
Dan Le Batard
Good series.
Tony
You're trying to tell me that that's better than what's happening in the NBA Finals? You're crazy. You're a nuts, man.
Stugotz
We're going to talk about the World cup and Giannis, but when Mike says something, being dropped in. I don't know if you guys saw this. Dropped in after the last 20 plus years of basketball, middle of the finals, middle of the epic. Everything. LeBron's on his podcast saying, well, I don't take a backseat to anyone in the goat conversation. Like, don't forget about. Don't. Don't forget. Hey, you guys, don't forget. I've been here for 20 years. I used to. I used to play in these games. Games.
Charles Barkley
We saw the dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization. Oh, wow.
Mike Ryan
Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?
Tony
I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.
Mike Ryan
Yeah, you usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with cvo walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is.
Tony
It has that effect on people.
Mike Ryan
It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollering, keep it Cuervo.
Tony
Keep it Cuervo, baby.
Date: June 11, 2026
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Tony, others
Broadcasting from Miami’s Elser Hotel, Dan, Stugotz, and the crew dive headfirst into an astonishing slate of recent sports comebacks, headlined by the New York Knicks’ record-shattering rally against the Spurs in the NBA Finals. The group discusses the fine line between a historic comeback and an epic collapse, reflects on the atmosphere and meaning for Knicks fans, scrutinizes coaching decisions, and uses notable soundbites from sports figures to set the scene. The episode has its signature blend of irreverent banter, local flavor, and deep sports analysis.
Pickup Basketball Philosophy:
The crew jokingly debates proper etiquette in pickup basketball—should you run actual plays, set picks, or double-team the hot hand?
Cultural Commentary:
They lampoon the “no doubling” code in pickup games, bringing a relatable, humorous digression to set the show's tone.
Giants’ Comeback:
Stugotz highlights the San Francisco Giants overturning an 8-run deficit to win, introducing the day's focus: wild comebacks in sports.
New Rules and Strategy:
Discussion of MLB’s three-batter rule and how it factors into late-game collapses.
Why This Comeback Resonates:
Dan contextualizes the Knicks’ comeback—down 29, rallying to defeat the Spurs in a Finals game—using both the statistical rarity and the emotional impact on long-suffering fans.
Atmosphere and Celebrity Fans:
The crew describes the unbridled joy in MSG post-game, noting the presence of “real” celebrity fans like Larry David, John McEnroe, and Tracy Morgan.
Contrast With Regular Playoff Atmosphere:
The intensity and drama distinguishes this postseason from a year filled with blowouts and anticlimax.
Who Won and Who Lost:
The panel argues if the Knicks’ victory was more about their grit or the Spurs’ meltdown.
Execution and Mistakes:
They dissect critical late-game mistakes, particularly De’Aaron Fox’s trio of blunders and the Spurs’ lack of composure, using sound from Charles Barkley and post-game interviews to hammer the point home.
Mitch Johnson’s Coaching Choices:
Discussion about the Spurs’ strategic failures—specifically not guarding the inbounder on the deciding final play, which allowed OG Anunoby a “Superman” runway (23:20).
Comparisons to Sound from Other Sports:
They juxtapose rowdy Knicks happiness with the infamous “Butt Fumble” game’s Jets fan misery, both described as forms of “hell” depending on your rooting interest.
Basketball's "Dumbest" Finals?
The crew discusses whether the Finals’ lack of elite execution diminishes their place in history or only adds to the drama, contrasting the series to the legendary “Spo and Pop” coaching duels of the past.
Parity, Drama, and Unpredictability:
Both the NHL and NBA Finals are delivering nightly classics—competition is tight even if the play is not always perfect.
Charles Barkley on the Spurs:
“We saw the dumbest basketball team in the history of civilization…that was some of the most mismanaged stupid basketball.” (17:22, repeated throughout)
Dan Le Batard:
“Last night was such a great example of everything that I love about sports. And it doesn't even matter that it's the Knicks…You had one of the greatest moments of your life last night.” (08:39)
Stugotz:
“Very few fan bases ever have had what this one now does, where you have the confidence that you can come back from 29 down because you just did it to Cleveland a series ago when you were down 22.” (09:28)
Dan Le Batard on MSG:
“I’ve never seen that before…It looked like no one left. They were all still there…playing music. The fans are dancing and singing.” (09:53)
OG Anunoby’s Post-Game Cool:
“It feels cool…We're enjoying it right now, but we're just focused on the next game now.” (27:40)
Mike Ryan on Execution:
“I'm just really thrown by the lack of execution from both teams in an NBA Finals.” (44:52)
The discussion is fast-paced, lively, irreverent, and sports-fan-centric. The panel jumps between off-the-cuff humor and sharp basketball analysis, frequently referencing real-time fan experiences, local Miami flavor, and classic Le Batard absurdity (“Is New York fandom hell?”). Memorable soundbites from Barkley and others serve as punchlines, grounding the more heated arguments in the show’s trademark style.
This episode delivers a classic, wide-ranging Dan Le Batard Show experience: simultaneously celebrating one of sports’ most improbable comebacks, eviscerating epic collapses, poking fun at player and coach blunders, and spotlighting the fan delirium that only moments like these can create. Whether you missed the games or want to relive the madness with an extra side of laughter and insight, this Local Hour is a must-listen for sports enthusiasts and pop culture obsessives alike.