The Hockey Show: Brad Williams' Saucy Passes

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Hockey Show – Brad Williams' Saucy Passes

Date: August 29, 2025
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Participants: Roy Bellamy (Host), David Dwark, Ethan Badowski, Guest: Brad Williams (Comedian)

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Episode Overview

This episode of “The Hockey Show” blends spirited hockey talk with comedian Brad Williams’s unique humor and personal sports stories. The crew covers major NHL headlines, touching tributes, wins and fails of the week, and dives into quirky tales from Brad Williams’s roller and ice hockey past. The episode balances hockey analysis, memory-lane moments, and offbeat comedy, capturing the character of both the sport and show.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. NHL Community and Memorials

[01:36–02:58]

• Tribute to Johnny and Matthew Goudreau:
  One year after their tragic passing, the NHL and teams like Columbus Blue Jackets and Calgary Flames are donating significant funds to the John and Matthew Goudreau Foundation to support youth hockey.
  • “Hopefully a lot more teams will chip in and help out youth hockey in memory of Matthew and Johnny.” – Roy Bellamy (02:36)
• Reflects on how quickly a year can pass and the ongoing impact of tragedy in the hockey community.

2. Panthers’ Injury Management & Salary Cap

[02:58–04:45]

• Matthew Tkachuk’s Surgery & Olympic Hopes:
  Tkachuk underwent surgery due to injuries at Four Nations. He’s expected to return by January 2026, possibly playing in the Winter Olympics.
  • “They are planning and expecting him to be available…that he should be playing hockey already.” – Roy Bellamy (03:36)
• Cap Crunch Concerns:
  The Panthers’ use of LTIR for cap relief sparks discussion on managing the roster with Tkachuk’s return.
  • “Are they banking on somebody else getting hurt and being able to keep Erod, you know, on the roster then?” – Ethan Badowski (04:32)

3. Roster Moves & Player Dynamics

[04:47–05:00]

• Interest in Jeff Petry’s Fit:
  Hosts are intrigued by how Petry, a recent acquisition, will mesh with the Panthers’ system.
  • “If they targeted him, he's probably going to fit in.” – David Druck (04:56)

4. Mitch Marner’s Exit from Toronto

[05:00–07:57]

• Marner’s Account of Fan Harassment & Safety Fears:
  Marner describes being doxxed, receiving death threats, and needing security for weeks – a sobering look at fan toxicity.
  • "When your family safety comes into question…having full-time security…just to make sure no one's coming to the house." – Mitch Marner (05:15)
• Panel laments how passion can turn ugly, forcing stars out.
  • "It's just sports, man... What are we doing?" – Roy Bellamy (06:51)
  • "He should have gone down as the greatest Toronto born Maple Leaf of all time...it’s really ugly." – Ethan Badowski (07:15)

5. Wins & Fails of the Week

[07:57–14:34]

Wins:

• Throwback Brawl – Ducks vs Flames (2001):
  A wild game with 309 penalty minutes; fondly remembered for its pure hockey chaos.
  • “The final minute 25 saw 200 something penalty minutes.” – David Druck (08:52)
• Evan Rodriguez’s Cup Trip:
  The Panthers’ Erod took his family and the Stanley Cup to Disney World. Filled the Cup with Remy the Rat plush dolls, delighting his kids.
  • “Imagine how great this cup day was for his kids…To have a Cup day that’s more about your kids than you.” – Ethan Badowski (10:31)

Fails:

• Kachuk Family – Video Game Ratings:
  Keith Kachuk ranking his sons in NHL 26 (with some brutal honesty); playful family ribbing.
  • “Trying to hedge his bet real quick. But he’s slippery with the puck.” – Brad Williams (11:46)
• NHL TV Schedule Snafus:
  Panthers (two-time defending champs) have zero ABC games; some playoff teams and several Canadian teams shut out of U.S. national broadcasts.
  • “The defending back-to-back Stanley Cup champions have zero games on network television.” – Roy Bellamy (13:44)

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Feature Interview: Brad Williams – Comedy and Hockey Collide

Starts [19:04]

Comedy Roots in Roller Hockey

• Brad’s Roller Hockey Tales:
  Playing defense as a little person, Brad relished surprising overconfident hockey dads.
  • “There’s definitely some dads that…were like, ‘My kid’s gonna go to the league.’ And then they saw me steal the puck…they’re like, ‘Well, if they can’t get around the dwarf, I really have no hope.’” – Brad Williams (19:15)
• Describes unspoken rules about hitting him, and the time those rules were broken (and avenged by a teammate).

Transition to Ice Hockey & LA Comedian League

• Playing with Comics & Celebs:
  Brad participates in a comedian ice hockey league with Bill Burr, Steve Byrne, and even Vince Vaughn (who, he jokes, is not as skilled as “Swingers” might suggest).
  • “Vince Vaughn played one week…I thought Vince was going to be like, an amazing player. Kind of sucks.” – Brad Williams (23:20)
• Praises Ian Bagg as the league’s best player and tells stories about the unique style of this pick-up league.

Locker Room Smells and Childhood Rivalries

• On Hockey Nostalgia:
  The distinct (and disgusting) smell of gear and locker rooms reminds Brad of childhood.
  • “The smell of a sweaty hockey locker room is very distinct…That is the smell of my childhood.” – Brad Williams (25:32)
• Saucy Passes:
  Brad’s pride in his airborne (“saucy”) passes and storytelling about childhood nemesis Evan Moore (later an NFL tight end).
  • “I flip the puck in the air…But I always managed to land it flat…it just landed flat. So I was really proud of that.” – Brad Williams (26:38)
  • “The a-hole in my league…Evan Moore…ended up playing tight end for the Cleveland Browns.” – Brad Williams (27:50)

Athletes and Comedy

• Roasting Athletes:
  Brad details his experiences doing comedy for pro sports teams – including John Elway and the Broncos.
  • “They like it and they go with it…Athletes in general, they can take jokes, in my opinion.” – Brad Williams (29:32)

Sidney Crosby vs. Alex Ovechkin

[32:35–33:54]

• On which superstar he picks:
  • “If you want excitement…Obi’s gonna do things that we’re just like, holy crap…But if you gotta start a franchise with prime either one, I go Sid.” – Brad Williams (33:33)

What Would He Do With the Stanley Cup?

[34:12–37:14]

• Jokes about driving the Cup to his old rival Evan Moore’s house out of “pettiness.”
  • “I would drive it up to Evan Moore’s house…say, look what your boy got…That’s what I would do.” – Brad Williams (36:45)
• Mentions the unique things players have done (like Scott Niedermayer’s helicopter mountain moment).

Parenting Hacks

• Brad shares his newfound trick for styling his daughter’s hair using a vacuum cleaner and the “scrunchie-on-tube” method.
  • “Warn your daughter first…The noise is gonna come up on my scrunchie…You suck all the hair into the vacuum and then you just throw the scrunchie up onto the hair. Perfect.” – Brad Williams (37:27)

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• Brad Williams on empathy in sports:
  “It was great to be a little person in a sport where typically you don’t find…dwarves in a lot of sports, but definitely not hockey.” (19:15)
• On locker room aromas:
  “That like the, the same way certain smells like just bring you back to your childhood. That's the one that works for me. A smelly hockey locker room.” – Brad Williams (25:32)
• On family trash talk and video game stats:
  “You'd think that he'd be a little bit kinder to his kids, but I love the way that they razz each other in this family. It's very. It feels very hockey.” – David Druck (12:22)
• On toxicity in fandom:
  “It's just sports, man…Why are we putting his address out there and why are we threatening him and his family for a game?” – Roy Bellamy (06:51)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 01:36 – Show intro and Goudreau tribute
• 02:58 – Tkachuk injury & Olympic hopes
• 05:00 – Mitch Marner discusses threats after leaving Toronto
• 07:57 – Wins and Fails of the Week
• 19:04 – Brad Williams joins: childhood hockey stories
• 21:46 – Team dynamics, comedy league, celebrity players
• 25:32 – Smells & nostalgia of the hockey locker room
• 26:38 – Brad’s “saucy” pass and rivalry with Evan Moore
• 29:32 – Roasting athletes; comedy & sports crossover
• 32:35 – “Crosby or Ovechkin?” discussion
• 34:12 – What Brad would do with his day with the Stanley Cup
• 37:27 – Parenting hack: vacuum scrunchie technique

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Tone and Style

The tone is lively, irreverent, and personal. The hosts and Brad Williams mix affectionate teasing, deep sports knowledge, and self-deprecating humor. They oscillate between serious topics (like fan harassment) and lighter, often absurd moments (like gear that smells like Cool Ranch Doritos or vacuum-based hair styling).

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Summary

This episode delivers a blend of heartfelt hockey commentary, raucous retro recaps, and Brad Williams’s comic storytelling, both poking fun at and paying tribute to the culture of hockey. From navigating the NHL’s tragedies and triumphs to sharing the inside smells of the locker room, it’s an episode for fans who love both the game and the personalities surrounding it.

Transcript

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[Roy Bellamy]

Hello. Welcome to the Hockey Show. That's David Dwark of the Hockey News. I'm Roy Bellamy. Ethan Badowski is on remote and Rosie's not here. She is now officially dealing with college football season. So have a safe flight there, Rosie.

[David Druck]

Have fun with her, Lucy. Send her back in one piece, please.

[Roy Bellamy]

Deals with Texas and Ohio State a year ago was, huh?

[David Druck]

Go Texas.

[Roy Bellamy]

Go Texas. Go Longhorns. Yeah, yeah, that. Anyway, a year ago, a tragic accident resulted in the loss of Johnny and Matthew Goudreau. And in their memory, the National Hockey League and the Columbus Blue Jackets are donating to the John and Matthew Goudreau foundation which supports youth hockey. Now the Columbus Blue Jackets are honoring their player numbers. So $13,000 in honor of Johnny and $21,000 in honor of Matthew will be going to the foundation. The Calgary Flames also down donating. They've added their jersey numbers. That would be $34,000 that's going towards the foundation. So hopefully a lot more teams will chip in and help out youth hockey in memory of Matthew and Johnny.

[David Druck]

Crazy that it's been a year.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Like, yeah, that was crazy. Felt like yesterday. And it's in memory of them, hopefully, that they get a lot more money for the foundation.

[David Druck]

Yes, sir.

[Roy Bellamy]

According to David Pinola, Matthew Kachuka already had his surgery.

[David Druck]

Yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. The injuries they sustained at Four nations, he is getting it repaired via surgery. And that's going to mean that the Panthers are going to put him on long term injured reserve to start the season for a second year in a row. It's probably going to be the last time they do that for anybody in the league. Right?

[David Druck]

Well, it's going to be the last time that they can use LTIR as a salary cap crutch, but it probably won't be the last time somebody's still hurt from the playoffs and misses the beginning of the regular season. Not with this Panthers team yet.

[Roy Bellamy]

USA Hockey has him penciled in to play in the Olympics, according to general manager of the Olympic team, Bill Garon.

[David Druck]

Yep.

[Roy Bellamy]

They are planning and expecting him to be available. Now. Keep in mind, Panthers general manager Bill Zito and assistant general manager Brett Peterson is a part of the brain trust they are.

[David Druck]

Garrett actually said that he doesn't bother Billy too much. When's Matty going to be back? We're not. They're expecting him to be back before the Olympics arrive, that he should be playing hockey already. So hopefully we'll get a repeat of what we saw with four nations earlier this year, because that was awesome and I would love to see that on an Olympic stage. Although we don't see the fighting, though.

[Ethan Badowski]

Sorry, guys. The report is that Chucky will be back sometime around January is what they're expecting. That would give him about a month to prepare for the Olympics, which are in mid February, early February. They start February 6th this year. Obviously, the interesting thing for the Panthers from a stamp that standpoint is, okay, Evan Rodriguez can be on the roster. Yeah, at least until January. But then what happens once Kachuk comes off ltir? How are they going to manage the cap situation? Because the Panthers are over the cap. Are they banking on somebody else getting hurt and being able to keep Erod, you know, on the roster then? But it'll be interesting to see how Bill Zito maneuvers. Either way, whatever happens, I trust him.

[David Druck]

In Zito we trust, right?

[Ethan Badowski]

Yes, absolutely.

[Roy Bellamy]

Actually interested in seeing how Jeff Petrie plays. He's the newest addition to The Florida Panthers on. He's a defenseman, so I'm actually interested how he ends up.

[David Druck]

If they targeted him, he's probably going to fit in. Yeah, usually works out that way.

[Roy Bellamy]

All right, so what happened with Mitch Marner, David?

[David Druck]

So Mitch Marner spoke to our buddy Mark Masters. He was speaking about his final days in Toronto. I'll go ahead and we can roll the sound and then we can just react to it afterwards because it's pretty gr.

[Mitch Marner (clip)]

And then I get a phone call probably about five or so minutes after from I think it was my wife's father called me and goes, I just want to let you know we've got people sending us screenshots of a guy posting your address online saying that if people want to come pay us a visit and say, you know, their goodbyes in a quotation way, here's the address. And it was a little tough, obviously. I mean, we kind of dealt with it for the last two years in a way. I mean, the market's very passionate. They love the team. I mean, I know it. I was born and raised there. I've been a part of the Leafs nation for a long time. But yeah, when your family safety comes into question, especially having a new son, I don't think it's acceptable, you know, having full time security pretty much at your house for two weeks after the playoffs just to make sure no one's coming to the house. You know, also the safety wise of trying to walk your dog and your child.

[Roy Bellamy]

So Mitch Marner got doxxed and received death threats while during the playoffs?

[David Druck]

Yeah, during and as soon as they were over. And this is a guy who, born and raised in Toronto, bled white and blue, you know, arguably one of, if not, you know, not their best player, Auston Matthews, but certainly top. You know, he's, he's great. He's core four guy and he, they wanted to keep him. Now, how's your team look in Toronto? You ran one of your best players out of town. He wanted nothing to do with sticking around. You're threatening his family, but it's okay. You got, you got Nicholas Roy, you got Matthias Maseli. This is a great off season, Toronto. Like, what are you guys doing? Like the most passionate fans in hockey. You ran one of your best players at a time. Good job.

[Roy Bellamy]

I've always said that the biggest divider in this world is politics, religion and sports. It's just sports, man. Like, it is a player, it's an athlete playing on your favorite team. What are we doing? Why are we docs why are we putting his address out there and why are we threatening him and his family for a game?

[Ethan Badowski]

Terrible. It's terrible. It's terrible how it went down, Roy. And you know Elliot Freeman says this a lot on the 32 Thoughts Show. He says that Marner should have gone down as the greatest Toronto born maple leaf of all time. And the way that it's gone down since in his exit I understand fans frustration with the way he was playing but I mean obviously you know to take it to this level is completely asinine and just everything that's gone down since it's really ugly. And I don't think things need to be ugly. It could have just been cordial and just hey, it didn't work out here. It wasn't the right fit. I'm going to go somewhere else and try and make it work somewhere else and be happy that way. So it's, it's a bummer the way everything has gone down. To be honest with you, quite frankly.

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That should have been off for all the week but it's not. Wins and fails of the week presented by Jagermeister Server code or don't serve it at all. Jagermeister. Damn, that's code. For more visit jagermeister.com Drink responsibly. David, what's your win?

[David Druck]

My win of the week is a throwback. I'm going back to December of 2001 because a game happened in Calgary that I loved back then. I got reminded of it this week. There were 309 penalty minutes in this game. Roy. And the majority of Ducks Flames, huh? Yes, Ducks Flames. Jager Aginla.

[Roy Bellamy]

It was like con my trophy winner John for Sebastian Jer. Even though he lost the final.

[David Druck]

The majority of the. Yeah, awesome. Don't. That was.

[Ethan Badowski]

We talked about the Connor McDavid special.

[David Druck]

Talk to Brad Williams about that on the show.

[Roy Bellamy]

Who got ran for the Flames was that.

[David Druck]

That was Mike Vernon. That's Mike Vernon.

[Roy Bellamy]

Vernon.

[David Druck]

Yeah, that's Mike Vernon.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, back with the Flames the second stint this was.

[David Druck]

Yes, after.

[Ethan Badowski]

That's a head of hair. Oh my God, did you see that hairline?

[David Druck]

So the final minute 25 saw 200 something penalty minutes. I mean the names in this game. Bob Bugner, Rob Niedermeyer, Dave Lowry, Bob Bugner, Mike Vernon, Ruson Soleil, all former Panthers. Craig Baruby was in this game. Dan Bilesma was in this game. Sergei Krivikrav, German Titov, Jeff Friesen. Some of the best hockey names of our upbringing.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yamatitov.

[David Druck]

Right. Like this Game had a little bit of everything. So definitely my win of the week. A throwback, but God, what fun.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wow.

[David Druck]

Nobody on the bench at the end of the game. Literally, like one guy on each bench when the game ended.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wow. The smile on my face, man. Oh, my goodness.

[David Druck]

Yeah, this is a good one.

[Roy Bellamy]

Win of the week is Evan Rodriguez for as long as he is a Florida Panther. But our winner of the week is via Evan Rodriguez. If you grow. If you grew up watching sports like us, not like Ethan, you've known that at the end of these championships, they usually. Yes, not because I know where you're.

[Ethan Badowski]

Going with this, Roy. I know where. I know what this is. They still do this to the end of the.

[David Druck]

To this day, yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Where are you going to do now? Going to Disney World. That's what Evan Rodriguez did. Erod and the family took the Stanley cup to Disney World. Look at that.

[David Druck]

Chocolate milk.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, they drink chocolate. I think they wash. They may wash the cup and put champagne in it.

[David Druck]

They. They stuffed it with Remy the Rat plush dolls when they went to Epcot Center.

[Ethan Badowski]

Way to ruin my win of the week, David. Way to spoil it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Okay, well, since. Fine, fine. What is your win of the week?

[Ethan Badowski]

There's my one of the week cap. Piggybacking. Oh, my God, I couldn't find the word there.

[Roy Bellamy]

A pig and a fat. Yeah, go ahead.

[Ethan Badowski]

Piggybacking off of this. Erod put the Remy's in the. In the cup. Reminiscent of, of course, the Florida Panthers and the Rats. Ratatouille. One of my favorite Pixar movies for sure.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Ethan Badowski]

But I just, I love this. Like, this is so good. This is such a unique thing to do with the Stanley cup. And, and the reason I love it so much is because imagine, like, okay, your cup day is usually great for you, but imagine how great this cup day was for his kids. Yeah, like, I just think that's so beautiful, you know, to have a Cup day that's more about your kids than you. I mean, he's done it twice, so he could make the second one more about his kids, but yeah, that was. That was really, really cool.

[Roy Bellamy]

All right, David, what's your fail of the week?

[David Druck]

My fail of the week? It's a little family non love. I know. The other day, Walt Kachuk, father of Matthew and Brady.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, Keith Kachuk. Oh, look at this guy.

[David Druck]

Went on Instagram or social media and ranked his sons for NHL 26 and wasn't as kind as you might think. Fellas, I'm going to have you assign.

[Brad Williams]

Some ratings to each of them for their video game ratings.

[David Druck]

So first we'll start with speed.

[Brad Williams]

What would you give them out of 100?

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, no. Oh, man.

[Brad Williams]

I'd say low 80s.

[Roy Bellamy]

Low 80s, mid-80s.

[Brad Williams]

Well, they're slippery.

[David Druck]

Trying to hedge his best real quick.

[Brad Williams]

But he's slippery with the puck.

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So I'd say 82 from Matthew 80.

[Brad Williams]

For Brady fighting rating. Brady in mid-90s. Matthew below 80. That one.

[Roy Bellamy]

That one makes sense.

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Brady 90.

[David Druck]

All right, so your NHL 94. Chucky on the hands, but no.

[Brad Williams]

You want to take a guess?

[Roy Bellamy]

No.

[Brad Williams]

55. 55.

[David Druck]

He was 55 in NHL 94.

[Roy Bellamy]

It was rookie season.

[Brad Williams]

Do you know what your NHL 8 rating is? That's the last one we were able to find.

[Roy Bellamy]

No.

[Brad Williams]

85.

[Roy Bellamy]

Really?

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. Okay.

[David Druck]

You'd think that he'd be a little bit kinder to his kids, but I love the way that they razz each other in this family. It's very. It feels very hockey. So I'm here for it.

[Roy Bellamy]

So big Walt, who wasn't as big as he was back in.

[David Druck]

The hair.

[Roy Bellamy]

Is certainly not 55. 55 overall rating. And every time that I played with Keith Tkachuk in one of these video games, I guess it shot up to like 90. I don't know if it was.

[David Druck]

If we're talking NHL 94, it's Jeremy Roenick. Yeah, Jeremy Roenick and Wayne Gretzky. And that's it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Everybody play for the Blackhawks and the Kings? My fail of the week comes from the American Broadcasting Company. The national TV schedule for the NHL came out. It's officially been released. The usual suspects are up there. The Washington Capitals have 18 nationally televised games. And that's gonna make sense because this is a swan song season for the Great eight. And also the. The Red Wings, Avalanche and Bruins have 17 national games. The Stars oil is wild. Rangers, Penguins have 16. The Blackhawks, Panthers, Lightning and Golden Knights have 15. Now 15 for the Panthers. I don't know if that's the most ever. It might be. I have no idea. But one thing I do know. Zero games on abc. The defending back to back national national champion. The defending back to back Stanley cup champions have zero games on network television.

[David Druck]

You got to make room for your boy Crosby, you know?

[Roy Bellamy]

How dare you?

[Ethan Badowski]

Yeah, they have to raise the banner at 5pm Because Crosby's just got to play the Rangers in prime time on opening night. It's ridiculous.

[Roy Bellamy]

I think I may have seen it. I might be wrong about this. The Penguins might have six games on abc.

[David Druck]

Yeah, that sounds about Right.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, my good God. I don't. I don't understand this. By the way, by the way, five Canadian teams are not going to be on abc. Five. No, actually, no. I'm sorry. Five Canadian teams are not going to be on national TV and in general in the United States. Five.

[David Druck]

I think I'm okay with that. The jets, based off of the discrepancy in years leading up to it. Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

The semifinalists in the Western Conference final conference. Not on national tv. The Flames are not on there. The Canucks are not on there. That's understandable. An up and coming team like the Canadian is not on there. The Senators, who are going to be a playoff team not on there. Doesn't make any sense to me.

[David Druck]

Toronto who might not make the playoffs.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Oh, well, Toronto's gonna be on there.

[David Druck]

We'll see.

[Roy Bellamy]

Anyway, for those of you on DraftKings Network, we have Brad Williams, the comedian. Coming up next. You can watch that on YouTube. The Levitard and Friends YouTube page. Click on the playlist tab and find us. That's the hockey show folder. Find us on YouTube on levittard and Friends. Coming up next, Brad Williams.

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[David Druck]

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[Brad Williams]

Let him hydrate. Let Ethan. You, Brad.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, Jesus. Okay. There you go.

[Brad Williams]

You, Brad.

[Roy Bellamy]

Nice.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. Well, all I know is, is Chris can say that now that he won $30,000 at a poker tournament.

[David Druck]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Brad Williams]

And don't bleep that. Don't, don't, don't. Bleep that. Yeah.

[Ethan Badowski]

That's the start of the interview.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's the story.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. All right. Make sure that everyone know that Chris won thousand dollars.

[Roy Bellamy]

Brad Williams makes people laugh for a living. That's his career. And he's currently on tour to do just that. It's the growth spurt tour. He'll be in Beaumont, Texas in two weeks. He'll be down here in Fort Lauderdale at the Parker Playhouse near the Baptist Iceplex in December. That's December 30th.

[David Druck]

We got to get tickets. Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

The Florida Panthers practice facility is right across the street. Brad and I just recently found out that you played roller hockey.

[Brad Williams]

I did, yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

How was the experience of learning that sport for you?

[Brad Williams]

It was. Let's just say that I crushed a lot of dad's dreams just because I was a defenseman. And when I played, there was definitely some dads that like, were like, all right there. Yeah, there I am. There's definitely some dads that were like, my kid's gonna go to the league. And then they saw me steal the puck from their kid. They're like, well, if they can't get around the dwarf, I really have no hope. So, yeah, crushed a lot of dad's dreams, won a few championships, and it was great. It was great to be a little person in a sport where typically you don't find, I mean, you don't find dwarves in a lot of sports, but definitely not hockey. And even though we kind of allowed physical play in that league, everyone knew not to touch me. I don't know if it was like there was a respect thing. I don't know if they thought if they hit me that I would just explode into candy sprinkles. I'm not sure. No one hit me and no one hit me until one day, one day a new kid came in and he thought, well, there's a little guy. I'm gonna hit the little guy. And he did. And we had a. We had an enforcer on our team name named Mike Cassis. And our coach, the great Doug Duxbury. Duxbury, come on, for a hockey coach, perfect. And he looked at Mike Cassis and he literally said, you know what to do. And then. And the next shift, a 12 year old Mike Cassis, who looked about 26, just leveled this kid like a big hit. And the parents of both sides were like, about to, like, come to blows. And the coach of the opposing team stopped him and said, no, no, no, our guy hit Brad. He deserved it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wait a minute, you mean to Tell me that nobody in the crowd stuck up with you when you got checked.

[Brad Williams]

Oh, there was. There was. Yeah, there was a lot going on. Our side was definitely chirping over to their side. All the parents were really upset. My dad, who was an attorney, I'm pretty. I'm pretty sure trying to file a lawsuit at that point, but. Yeah, but then once Mike hit the. Hit the other kid, then it exploded. The opposing coach calmed it down. And then after that, we were. We were back to even and back to square one, and no one hit me again, so that's good.

[David Druck]

Was this in Anaheim, Was this Southern California that this coach named Duxbury was coaching a hockey team in Southern California?

[Brad Williams]

Yes, this was at a. Now, my. My childhood hockey rink is now at Goodwill, but at the time it was called Stewart's Roller World, and that was where I played in Fullerton, California. Stuart Silver was the owner who owned the Anaheim Bullfrogs, where, if you remember, the rhi. The Roller Hockey International League, the Anahe Heim Bullfrogs were a prominent team in that league. This was like 30 years ago, so I don't expect anyone to know that league.

[Roy Bellamy]

So you did a lot of roller hockey. Did you ever get on the ice?

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. So one of the cool parts about living up in LA and doing stuff is there. There's a comedian ice hockey pickup league and. Yeah. And I. And I've played in it. It's awesome. Bill Burr plays in it. There's Steve Byrne plays in it.

[David Druck]

You guys need a goalie?

[Brad Williams]

I'm sorry, what?

[David Druck]

You need a goalie?

[Brad Williams]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

Fly on over to Anaheim.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. If you know one who. Who's not like Swiss cheese like yourself, then yeah, sure. Yeah, let's go.

[David Druck]

There's a qualifier. Yeah. Then I'm screwed.

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, Dave just got back on the ice. We have a picture of both Dave and I at the Baptist Iceplex. We. We're getting the hockey to Brad.

[Brad Williams]

Let's go in, in, in. In the. In the words of Chance the rapper. Let's get that hockey.

[David Druck]

Yes.

[Brad Williams]

Okay. Yeah. Let's go. Dude, Dude. Dude. That's great. The. The best part about the comedian league is that Vince Vaughn played one week and Vince, I thought, you know, based on. Based on swingers. He's grown. He grew up in Chicago. I thought Vince was going to be like, an amazing player. Kind of sucks. But to be fair, when he played, he had had back surgery not far removed from that. So he was just getting out there, trying to get some. Trying to get some ability. The best Player is a comedian. He's a crowd work comic. His name is Ian Bag. He's hilarious. Everyone should look up his stuff. And he's the best player so far that he can't play at full strength. He has to kind of just glide out there and be like, all right, I'll, I'll, I'll humor. I'll humor all you weekend warriors.

[David Druck]

I like it. I like the double G. Yeah.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. I'm a big fan of Double G.

[Roy Bellamy]

Doesn't like that, though. Greg Cody doesn't like the double G.

[Brad Williams]

Well, at least it's not on a Greg, you know?

[David Druck]

Yeah, right.

[Brad Williams]

It's not. It's on a bag instead of being the last name.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah.

[Brad Williams]

So it's fine. But I love playing hockey. It's really great. Roy, how long have you been getting out there?

[Roy Bellamy]

Just this year I did learn to play and that was a 12 week course. I had gotten better at skating. I can actually stop now. That's awesome.

[Brad Williams]

That is a big part of it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Yeah. That's a gigantic part of it. I could stop on my left skate. My right skate. No, but Dave over here, Dave just put on his goalie pads for the first time in a good long time and got out there last year, ACL surgery. Because of that, he was injured. So how did that feel?

[David Druck]

Better than I thought it was going to. I was the proper amount of sore when I got off the ice. It wasn't like I was expecting to be hurting for a while. But no, it went. It went pretty well.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[David Druck]

I'm ready.

[Brad Williams]

That's a, that's a smell that I miss. I actually miss the, the smell of sweaty pads that you air dry in your backyard or a balcony or something like that.

[David Druck]

It's a very familiar smell.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. The smell of a sweaty hockey locker room is very distinct. And that like the, the same way certain smells like just bring you back to your childhood. That's the one that works for me. A smelly hockey locker room. That is the smell of my childhood.

[Roy Bellamy]

I came to the realization that my gloves, after all this time, now smell like Cool Ranch Doritos.

[David Druck]

What?

[Roy Bellamy]

That's. That's the smell. I don't know how that happened on the ice. I didn't eat it. It just smells because you.

[Brad Williams]

You sweat Cool Ranch Doritos, Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

Apparently I do. Yeah.

[Brad Williams]

You have spent so much time in the press box munching down on Cool Ranch Doritos, you sweat. Was it. Wasn't that like an old yo mama joke? Like your mama's so fat her blood type is Rocky Road. Yeah, like that's you, but for Cool Ranch Doritos.

[David Druck]

Well, Brad, we got into your hockey prowess and I wanted to ask you what you thought the best element of your game is. And if I can guess before you answer, is it chirping? Because you're such a good shit talking.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's poke checking.

[Brad Williams]

Dude. I will tell you what the, the best part of my game was and I, I took so much pride in this. Yes, I was a pretty good chirper and people chirped back and I'll get into that in a second. But the best part of my game is I could do this pass and I can still do it to this day where I, I flip the puck in the air so, so the puck goes airborne. But I always managed to land it flat. It never, it never landed on its side. It didn't bounce around, it just landed flat. So I was really proud of that. I was really proud of the fact that I could get a pass over your stick and then have it land flat and be right there. For a guy, that's good. But hockey rivalries run deep. Childhood rivalries run deep. I don't know if you guys have any people that you grew up with playing sports with. Like if you had an a hole of your league where you. So the, the a hole in my league. I'm going to say his name and it's okay because he's a public figure. His name is, his name is Evan Moore. Ended up playing tight end for the Cleveland Browns.

[David Druck]

Oh my God.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wow.

[David Druck]

So.

[Roy Bellamy]

Wow. It was grew up.

[Brad Williams]

Wow. He grew up there. He was such a dirty hockey player. I'll shout out a 10 year old Evan Moore, I'll put him on blast. I don't care.

[Roy Bellamy]

He looks good.

[David Druck]

Yeah.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. But then one day I'm watching the NFL and all of a sudden they're like, and there's the catch from Moore and they show him and I'm like, dog, the guy went pro, the guy went to the NFL. I don't know what kind of career he had. I, I don't know how much money he made, but good on him for. But that, that was my, that, that was my solace knowing that the guy I hated playing hockey against more than anybody. Yes, he went to the NFL, but he played for the Browns.

[David Druck]

So if you're wondering what his career stats were, three years for the Browns, one year for the Seahawks, one game for the Eagles. 63 career catches, five touchdowns in the NFL and one loss fumble.

[Brad Williams]

Hey, that's five more touchdowns than any of us.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, that's true.

[Brad Williams]

Not exactly a. Not exactly a fantasy stud, but, you know, he got. He got to the league.

[David Druck]

He's hooking you up in 8, 16.

[Brad Williams]

Shout out to Evan Moore, who now is probably watching Instagram or Tick Tock and going like, wait, that little dwarf from the league. Shout out to Evan Moore.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm sure you've done corporate gigs for sports teams. I saw that you did something with the. The Broncos and John Elway.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

How would you way that athletes take jokes? Because is it anything like Norm MacDonald and the ESPYs, the way those athletes took those jokes? I mean, those are pretty.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

The cerberic. But like.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. In general, I think athletes trash talk so much that they. They like it and they go with it. The. The times I've been lucky enough to do something for the Broncos and they're. I highly advise, if you're going to be a fan of a football team, be a fan of a football team where if you're a D list celebrity like myself, you're very popular with the team. Like, don't be a Chiefs fan right now because get in line. You're, you know, you're not getting free tickets, you're not getting hookups behind. You're behind Paul Rudd, Rob Riggle, half the. The guy from Modern Family. Cam from Modern Family.

[Roy Bellamy]

You're.

[Brad Williams]

You're behind so many people.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, be a tight. Yeah.

[Brad Williams]

Well, not even Titans, because Titans is in Nashville. So you got a lot of country music stars that are, like, they're not a fan really, but they'll show up and like, do whatever their pregame thing is, you know, tightened up or whatever the hell. So, like, you'll. You'll get that. But if you could be a fan of the Jacksonville Jaguars, you're golden. You're. You're gonna be. You're gonna get so many tickets, you're gonna be like. Like, if you could be a D list celebrity fan and just pick like the random team, you're good. You're gonna be awesome. Yeah.

[David Druck]

See, we suck to be a celebrity and a Dolphins fan because there's so many and the team still sucks.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You got that. Well, same thing with the Jets. Same thing with the jets is. You're. Is. Is. You're a celebrity fan of the jets dugouts who used to work for this company, St.

[Roy Bellamy]

He.

[Brad Williams]

He. He's. He's 42nd in line for the tip for the ticket request.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, he's behind Hank Azaria.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah. It's hard, you know, So I, but, but being a fan of the Broncos, it's like me and Angela from the office. She, she, she's a big Broncos fan. And so, yeah, Broncos, very nice to me. But to the, but to your original point. Yes, athletes get jokes. When I did the corporate event for John Elway, I made fun of Elway to his face. I talked about the teeth.

[David Druck]

It's okay.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah, exactly. By the way, this was before the incident with his friend, the where, where they were on a golf cart and tragically his friend fell out and actually lost his life. Horrible, horrible incident. So I did not mention that because it had not happened yet. Nor, nor would I. There are, there are some things that you just know. But I think in Kevin Hart's specials, he had one where he had LeBron and Shaq in the audience. This is back when Shaq was playing on the Cavs and he started roasting them and you saw them just going nuts. And so, yeah, athletes in general, they, they can take jokes, in my, in my opinion.

[David Druck]

I got one more for you, Brad, and it's a quick one. Maybe it's an easy one. Kind of in the ranks of like when we were kids, were you a Backstreet Boys guy or an NSYNC guy? Brittany or Christina? Are you a Sidney Crosby guy or are you an Alex Ovechkin guy?

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, for sake.

[David Druck]

Yeah. Oh, we're going.

[Brad Williams]

Well, man, that is tough. That is tough. So if I, if I had to pick one, I know who I'd rather have a beer with. I'll tell you that.

[David Druck]

Obviously.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, but you drink it all, though.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah, well, that, that, and that's why I'm not driving home drunk that day. So it's fine because I, you know, I definitely rather have a beer with Obi, rather party with him. Who I want on my team, who I think is a better team guy. I, I, I'll, I'll probably go sit the kid who's now like, did the, the middle aged man. But yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, but if you want excitement, Sid, to me, wasn't an exciting player.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's very good.

[Brad Williams]

He's obviously a great player. But Obi's gonna do things that we're, we're just like, holy crap. And he's gonna take chances and stuff's gonna happen there that, that's gonna be a little more exciting. But if you gotta start a franchise with prime, either one, I go, sid, but that's die, Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Sidney Crosby is one selkie trophy vote. You know, finally, finally. The Panthers have been celebrating all summer, and now the players and coaching staff and trainers are getting the one day with the Stanley Cup. If you had one day with the Stanley cup, what would you do?

[Brad Williams]

Oh, you know, when the. When my Ducks won a cup back in 20 or 2006, it wasn't even 20. It was 2006, I believe. Scott Niedermeyer did. Did a really cool thing where he, He, He. He took the cup to the top of, like, a mountain, and then he, like, rented a helicopter. And then the helicopter, like, flew around and while he held the cup in the air and like, the camera shot. Wow. Yeah. And then I think they put, like, Creed in the background or something. When I just heard the news today. Will you take me higher? That was pretty inventive and pretty awesome. Weird how times have changed because now you can just do that with a drone. You don't have to.

[David Druck]

Brad. If you. If you do not are not aware of this when you're done, Google Scott Stapp. Marlins will soar. The lead singer from Creed did a Miami Florida Marlins, like, pipe song. And it is.

[Brad Williams]

Whoa.

[David Druck]

Oh, it is. I can't even describe it.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, and we spoofed it. We spoofed it on the Levitar show. Ty goes to the runner and that sort of thing.

[David Druck]

One stretch.

[Brad Williams]

Do you guys. Have you guys heard the Prince Vikings song?

[Roy Bellamy]

No.

[David Druck]

Oh, God. That said to be good. Prince is a big Vikings fan.

[Brad Williams]

No, it's not.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, not good. Well, he doesn't know football.

[Brad Williams]

I love Prince. Let me put that out there. Love Prince. I was in Miami. I was in the audience for the greatest halftime show ever. I was in the crowd for Prince's halftime show.

[Roy Bellamy]

Literally.

[Brad Williams]

Purple rain. In the rain is one of the greatest moments of my life, you know, outside the birth of my children. Yeah, but. Yeah, that was great. But, yeah, I think the song is called Hail to the Purple and Gold.

[David Druck]

Purple and gold. I just found it on YouTube. We will be watching this when we get done. And you've got to watch. Marlins will soar. Okay. That's our ideal.

[Brad Williams]

So. So if I had. If I had one day with the cup, man, because it's like, of course you want. Like, I would definitely drink an old Fashioned out of it.

[David Druck]

Oh, yes.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, man. That's a lot of. That's a lot of bourbon.

[David Druck]

The biggest ice cube of all time. I'm here for it.

[Brad Williams]

Yeah, it would. It would kill me. You know, whatever. I. I mean, my. At my size, I might. I might still be able to swim in it. That'd be fun.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Brad Williams]

You know what I would do if I won the cup? I would drive it up to Evan Moore's house because hockey rivalries run deep. And I would say, look what your boy got. Look what your boy got. That's what I would do. I would drive it to Evan Moore's house, and then. Yeah. I'm so petty.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[David Druck]

I'm here for it.

[Brad Williams]

I'm so petty.

[Roy Bellamy]

The Grovesburg tour is September 11 through April 12. Find out the tour dates and where he's going to play near you and get your [e-mail] Brett Williams, thank you for joining us. Appreciate you.

[Brad Williams]

Hey, thank you guys for having me. Sorry I was a little late to join the show, but I'm solo dadding this week, and I had to. I had to do my daughter's hair, which I found out yesterday that I am horrible at, and I cannot do. And so I. But all my fans reached out, and they gave me this cheat. I tried it this morning. Holy crap. It works. All right, so for the dads out there, it's a vacuum cleaner. You get a vacuum cleaner that. And you get the tube attachment, and you. You put the scrunchie or the whatever on the tube. You fold it over, like, three or four times, and then you suck all the hair. Warn your daughter first. That's a key thing. Warn your daughter. You're gonna do this? Yeah. The noise is gonna come up on my scrunchie. Yeah, don't do that. Just. But warn her. And then you suck all the hair into the vacuum, and then you just throw the scrunchie up onto the hair. Perfect. It worked. It was amazing.

[David Druck]

Nice.

[Brad Williams]

I'm a great dad. So I don't know. And this is just because I don't know how that's gonna work with Claire. Yeah.

[Roy Bellamy]

I was about to say it's probably gonna be a bit difficult for Claire. Yeah. Different kind of text America with the vacuum cleaner on there.

[Brad Williams]

And that's definitely a to America situation. But, yeah, so that's why. That's why I was a little late. I had to get her off to school and do. And do her hair. But, guys, thank you so much for having me. Always fun. And we didn't really talk about it, but I'm a big Ducks fan.

[David Druck]

I had Ducks questions for you. We don't. We ran out of time. I had so much I wanted to get to. You guys are going to be a very improved team this year, I think.

[Brad Williams]

I love Our draft. I love our new coach as long as he doesn't repeat certain things that he did in Chicago. And I love Carlson. He's such an exciting player and we're a fun young team. And once again, I choose the right teams to be fans of because not a lot of celebrity Ducks fans. So they're rolling out red carpets for me. It's been great.

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, we're gonna get your Ducks update during the season and see how they're gonna end up going. And yeah, you're right about Quinville. Thank you, Brad, for joining us.

[Brad Williams]

Wow.

[Roy Bellamy]

Special thanks to Brad Williams. That was a lot of fun talking to him there about the fact that I didn't know they actually played hockey. That was that. I want to say it's surprising, but yeah, it's surprising.

[David Druck]

Sauce pass king.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, yeah, it got some good sauce on those passes, man. But yeah, that was great. Rosie is cutting up this episode. As soon as we are done here, Ethan is on audio. We appreciate you being on remote and doing your job from wherever the hell you are right now.

[Ethan Badowski]

I'm in Chicago, Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

Oh, yeah, you're in Chicago. Yeah.

[Ethan Badowski]

The train comes by so often you won't even notice.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[Ethan Badowski]

That is not Oasis. Bittersweet Symphony is not Oasis.

[David Druck]

That's.

[Ethan Badowski]

That is very not Oasis at all.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, well, hurry up and get your ass home, Danny. GQ is a man in the wheels of steel. In the other room we got Danny Benitez and Jason. I believe Gino is back there in the video room. We appreciate you guys there. That's David Druck. My name is Roy. Balmy. We will see you next week.

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[Brad Williams]

Hey, Mike.

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[Roy Bellamy]

I don't like that.

[Brad Williams]

There's no way.

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[Brad Williams]

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