The Hockey Show: Playoff Madness

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz – Episode: The Hockey Show: Playoff Madness

Release Date: April 25, 2025

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Introduction

In this episode of The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz, hosts Dan Le Batard, Roy Bellamy, David Dwork, Ethan, Rosie, and guest Adnan Burke delve deep into the tumultuous landscape of the current NHL playoffs. Filmed from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, the team offers their candid analysis, spirited debates, and insightful commentary on the unfolding playoff drama, team performances, and pivotal moments that are shaping the postseason.

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Current Playoff Landscape

The discussion kicks off with an overview of the playoff excitement, highlighting the unexpected performances and surprising outcomes that have left fans and analysts alike reevaluating their predictions.

David Dwork reflects on his excitement:

"It was a welcome to the playoffs moment... the Oilers came back from like a million goal deficit to tie the game in Los Angeles. Then the Kings win the game with like a minute to go after the elders just came back on them." [09:55]

Roy Bellamy counters with his perspective on the Edmonton Oilers and their struggles:

"It's been a disaster for the Edmonton Oilers... The goaltending is bad. They can't protect the puck. The defense is terrible." [24:40]

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Key Moments and Player Performances

A significant portion of the conversation centers around standout player performances and crucial game moments that have influenced the playoff outcomes.

Ethan highlights the resilience of the Florida Panthers:

"Matthew Tkachuk...came back with that kind of performance, two goals and assists, great on special teams, hitting, banging. There's a reason why the Kachuk always bring passion." [48:22]

Adnan Burke praises the Panthers’ strategic gameplay:

"Paul Maurice has been there before. He knew what he had to do. Make sure the guys are clicking at the right time. Ekbat offers a severe emotional force." [46:10]

Meanwhile, discussions about the Los Angeles Kings emphasize their consistent playoff appearances and strategic depth:

"The Kings are playing each other in the first round for the fourth time in a row... They've got a talented team top to bottom that beats the pair of Aces of McDavid and Dyson." [25:15]

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Team Dynamics and Strategies

The hosts analyze team strategies, coaching decisions, and player dynamics that are pivotal in the high-stakes environment of the playoffs.

Roy Bellamy critiques coaching strategies and player interactions:

"I just want to see the Panthers play their game. Like last year, Boston tried to muck things up... I just want to see the Panthers go out there, dominate game three, win, and put an end to the series." [43:11]

Adnan Burke discusses the importance of special teams and shot-blocking:

"Special teams have been key. The Leafs are 5 for 9 on the power play. Mitch Marner's pass to Auston Matthews was crucial. The Panthers have been blocking shots and stifling the opposition’s offense." [28:46]

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Off-Ice Incidents and Controversies

The episode does not shy away from addressing off-ice incidents that have stirred controversy and impacted team morale.

A notable incident discussed is Brandon Hagel’s hit on Alexander Barkov, deemed as interference:

Ethan describes the incident:
"Alexander Barkov wasn't even touching the puck. Hagel slammed him to the ice. That was clear-cut interference." [40:22]

Adnan Burke comments on the repercussions of such actions:

"That kind of hit is just vicious. A dirty, cheap play by Hagel. He should know better." [41:55]

Furthermore, the conversation touches upon management decisions, such as the New York Islanders firing their general manager Lou Lamarello:

Adnan Burke provides context:
"Lou's a disciplinarian and has done great things, but his tenure ended due to poor performance in the latter part of the season. The farm system is terrible, and the future looks bleak for the Islanders." [35:09]

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Predictions and Conclusions

As the episode wraps up, the hosts share their predictions for the remaining playoff series, offering a mix of optimism and skepticism based on current team performances.

David Dwork predicts a decisive victory for the Kings over the Oilers:

"I think they win. I think Jim Hiller is a good coach. I do not think they put their foot off the gas." [26:22]

Adnan Burke aligns with the Panthers’ dominance:

"Paul Maurice has been smart and crafty with the Panthers, managing player health and performance strategically. I believe the Panthers will triumph in six games." [46:10]

Roy Bellamy echoes confidence in the Panthers while acknowledging the Lightning’s talent:

"Nothing's been coming from the wings for the Lightning. The Panthers have the upper hand after the last two seasons and now they're up 2-0." [48:22]

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Notable Quotes

• David Dwork on playoff excitement:

  "We're all winners, and every week we can share the love all the better." [09:55]

• Roy Bellamy on coaching enthusiasm:

  "I want to see the Panthers go out there, dominate game three, win, and put an end to the series." [43:11]

• Adnan Burke on handling violent plays:

  "You can never advocate for vigilante justice publicly, especially as an analyst." [45:27]

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Conclusion

The Hockey Show: Playoff Madness episode provides a comprehensive and engaging analysis of the current NHL playoffs. The hosts offer diverse viewpoints, balanced critiques, and passionate support for their favored teams. From dissecting key player performances and strategic decisions to addressing controversial incidents both on and off the ice, the episode serves as a valuable resource for hockey enthusiasts seeking in-depth coverage of playoff madness.

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Note: This summary omits advertisement segments, intros, outros, and non-content discussions to focus solely on the core hockey-related content presented in the episode.

Transcript

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[David Dwork]

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[Roy Bellamy]

Get out of here.

[David Dwork]

Big fan.

[Ethan]

I hate musicals.

[David Dwork]

I love musicals.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's my boy.

[Ethan]

Roy. I hate musicals.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm with you.

[David Dwork]

How about Disney movies? Roy?

[Ethan]

I hate Disney movies.

[Roy Bellamy]

You don't like Frozen?

[Ethan]

No, I like Soul.

[Roy Bellamy]

Soul was great. Soul was awesome.

[Rosie]

I did not like.

[Roy Bellamy]

Soul was very good.

[David Dwork]

That's the one.

[Roy Bellamy]

You didn't like Soul?

[Rosie]

No.

[Roy Bellamy]

Why?

[Rosie]

It was not that profound.

[Ethan]

What the are you talking about?

[Roy Bellamy]

And comes back to life.

[Rosie]

Yeah, bro.

[Roy Bellamy]

There's like that statute of limit. Yeah, statute of limitations is up on soul. That came out during the pandemic.

[Ethan]

You said it's not profound.

[Roy Bellamy]

The guy dies.

[Ethan]

We're talking about mortality here. Welcome the hockey show. My name is Roy Bellamy. That's David Truck of the Hockey News. We have Rosie and Ethan in the shipping container and we are all unhappy. We will get to why.

[Roy Bellamy]

Very happy. I don't know what you're talking about.

[Ethan]

No, there. Oh, you know what I'm talking.

[Rosie]

I am unhappy, actually, because you will know my fail of the week.

[David Dwork]

It's a. It's a similar feeling to last June.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah.

[David Dwork]

To the final a little bit.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[David Dwork]

Should have been really happy after game two and we weren't.

[Ethan]

Yeah. There's one instance of. On why we are unhappy and we will get to that with Adnan Burke later in the show. But first let's. Well, I can't even say we can lighten the mood with this because apparently Spencer Knight can't find a house. Play the video.

[Spencer Knight]

So right when I got here, I started looking at places to live because living in a city is different than living in, say, a suburb where it's, you know, okay, guys, live in this one suburb. It's 10 minutes in the ring. All right, which house do you like? You know, it's. There's townhomes, there's condos, there's duplex downs, there's single family homes, there's high rise apartments. You know, there's a train next to one apartment. I don't like that. That's weird. I don't know why they're above ground and like so loud all the time. I don't want to live in a place that has super loud like that. Okay. This street's loud. This street's not. This street's a one way. There's someone above me here. The floors are thin. Like there's so many little things that are going to. Living in a city that seem, you know, actually, you know, you don't think of when you're just like in Florida when you're in a house and you're just like, I have my house and this is my spot. You know, the only thing bothering me might be the lizards in Florida, my backyard.

[Ethan]

Poor Spencer Knight, the former future of this franchise in Florida is now the current goaltender in Chicago. And he's having a hard time trying to find a place to live.

[David Dwork]

I'm torn. Like, part of me obviously feels for the guy, but part of me is like, dude, you have options.

[Roy Bellamy]

Well, clearly, you know, what I learned from this video is he's never seen Blues Brothers because he didn't know that there are apartments in Chicago that are right next to the L train. Just like Elwood Blues's apartment in Blues Brothers, where the train comes by so often you won't even notice.

[David Dwork]

Yeah, it's often.

[Ethan]

Yeah, you can fall asleep through it now. It's just like a record.

[David Dwork]

We need that. But that's A better point, I think if Spencer Knight hasn't seen Blues Brothers, between the fact that it's a classic and the fact that he lives in.

[Roy Bellamy]

Chicago, he's only two years younger than me. He can't use the excuse that, oh, I'm too young to have seen Blues Brothers. First of all, there's no age that's too young to have seen Blues Brothers. There's no age. You should always have seen Blues Brothers. Once you pass the age of like 16 years old, I would say.

[David Dwork]

Yeah.

[Ethan]

The fabric of Chicago. And it's the best musical of all time, in my opinion.

[Roy Bellamy]

Best musical I like.

[Ethan]

That's right. Of all time.

[Roy Bellamy]

I would agree with you, Roy.

[Ethan]

Thank you. Thank you very much. Not Chicago. Certainly not Moulin Rouge.

[David Dwork]

What about the Producers?

[Roy Bellamy]

Mulan Rouge? Get out of here.

[Adnan Burke]

With.

[Roy Bellamy]

With Hamilton. Have you seen them play the theme theme song from the TV show Rawhide? Nay. I'm ashamed to say that Bob's Country Bunker.

[David Dwork]

Like, I feel like I'm like, stand by your man. All right, you guys are.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yeah, you got me started on Blues Brothers and you lost me.

[Ethan]

Yeah, that's Chicago hockey.

[David Dwork]

No more musical talk.

[Ethan]

All right, fine. Let's move on to a bit that they did on inside the NBA. Tnt to do a crossover between the NBA and NHL. Because they got to. At this point, they have to because they're losing the NBA. So they got to do that.

[David Dwork]

So lean into hockey.

[Ethan]

Yeah, lean in the hockey inside the NBA. Promoting the brothers over there across the studio at the any on the hockey side had Ernie Johnson, Kenny Smith and Charles Barkley shooting pucks on Shaquille O'Neal in front of the net.

[Adnan Burke]

Unfortunately, he's going tonight. Chuck, you got your stick back. How you. Cuz I played hockey? You a damn lie.

[Ethan]

Skate hockey, not on ice.

[Adnan Burke]

Oh, street hockey. See, I'm saying. There you go, Shaq, you got the angle commenting on this. What are you.

[Ethan]

Why is that?

[David Dwork]

Because of that right there.

[Ethan]

Wow. Oh, my God.

[David Dwork]

Because of that right there. Because these are some of the best athletes in their craft of all time. And dude just took a slap shot that went 90 degrees the wrong way.

[Adnan Burke]

Right?

[David Dwork]

Well, I always love facing the wrong way. The blade facing the wrong way.

[Roy Bellamy]

I always love sports crossovers where you watch some of the greatest athletes at one sport play another sport and they look like complete idiots. Like, I remember seeing Neymar try and swing a baseball bat and just looking like a six year old trying to swing a baseball bat. Like, it's amazing to watch the different, you know, legends in different sports try and try other things and just completely fail at them.

[Ethan]

Basically what happened was Charles Barkley had the wrong handed stick. So if he was a.

[David Dwork]

He was shooting lefty but he had a righty stick.

[Ethan]

Yeah. So basically he was on his forehand with a backhand.

[David Dwork]

In that situation the puck went way that way.

[Ethan]

Yeah. It looked like one of my golf shots.

[David Dwork]

So is nicely done.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[David Dwork]

So is the, the, the moral of the story. Stay in your lane.

[Ethan]

No, no. This is not a shut up and dribble situation. No, it's not. Stay in your lane. You could try out new stuff.

[David Dwork]

Okay.

[Ethan]

But yeah, I mean, no, I want.

[David Dwork]

To see a better effort from Shaq and goal to be. I want to see somebod what they're doing shooting on Shaq just cuz he's so big.

[Ethan]

He didn't have the right stick either.

[Roy Bellamy]

We can finally, we can finally prove whether or not if you just put a giant person in goal, Sumo, they could just do a great job.

[David Dwork]

What was that commercial?

[Roy Bellamy]

The Walrus Geico. That's a great commercial. That is a good commercial.

[Ethan]

That's a species.

[David Dwork]

That's the only situation where I think you can put something large non athletic in the net and it'd be okay. Oh man. I'm trying to remember what, what his name was like Wally or Ricky or something like way to go. Whatever.

[Ethan]

No, no. I thought I was gonna end my streak of shit talking the islanders because they rostered a racist, but apparently not because they had a little bit of news and this is actually good news. I'm not shitting on them for this one. Because they fired their general manager and team president Lou lamarello.

[David Dwork]

Yay. Facial hair wins.

[Ethan]

Facial hair wins. So Anthony Duclair, you can grow your hair out. He had to shave his dreads off because of that archaic rule that the Islanders had.

[David Dwork]

It's going to take him what, another year to grow him back. It took him five minutes to fire Lou.

[Ethan]

Yeah, it's going to take like two years to get those dreads back. So Anthony, declare. You can grow your hair out, brother. That's.

[David Dwork]

That's a c. Did another job.

[Roy Bellamy]

No, he'll get a job. I was listening to 32 Thoughts. He'll get a job as an advisor somewhere just because he's Lou Lamarello and.

[David Dwork]

So he's a name.

[Roy Bellamy]

So like they'll tell cycles people. Exactly. He'll get a job just in some front office as an advisor, quote unquote. And he'll collect in a page fade into irrelevancy bullshit.

[David Dwork]

As long as it's not like an advisor role where he can advise people not to shave.

[Roy Bellamy]

I highly doubt he gets a GM job again for sure, though, especially with the way that things went New York this year.

[David Dwork]

Imagine like he's sitting in the back of like a hockey ops meeting and they're all going over the season to come and he's in the back of. He's like, I have a suggestion. Maybe they shouldn't shave. And for the first time, everybody can just be like anybody else.

[Ethan]

Never again.

[David Dwork]

No new business.

[Ethan]

Never.

[David Dwork]

Moving on.

[Ethan]

All right, let's go to our wins and fails of the week, presented by Jagermeister. Serve it cold or don't serve it at all. Jagermeister. Damn, that's cold. For more visit jagermeister.com Drink responsibly. David.

[Adnan Burke]

Roy.

[David Dwork]

My win of the week. I have two wins of the week. Actually, my first one, similar to last week. It's for all of us. We are all winners, and every week.

[Ethan]

We are all winners.

[David Dwork]

We can share the love all the better. But this, for me, this was my welcome to the playoffs moment. The playoffs started last weekend. You know, the Panthers didn't play for four days, but in the span of what felt like 10 minutes the other night, the Oilers came back from like a million goal deficit to tie the game in Los Angeles. Then the Kings win the game with like a minute to go after the elders just came back on them. And all this is happening while Colorado and Dallas are playing one of the most exciting overtimes that we'd seen in the playoffs so far. And granted, it's early, but it was a very exciting overtime. Dallas ended up winning the game. Their fans are going crazy. It was a kind of an upset win because they hadn't won in forever. And Colorado is really good right now. Just that whole sequence of about 10, 15 minutes in real time. I was so excited on my couch.

[Roy Bellamy]

It wasn't even 10 to 15 minutes. It was like four minutes. And I missed it, like all of it. Because I was watching in bed, falling asleep up way too late on a Tuesday night or whatever it was.

[David Dwork]

You're like 22 years old.

[Roy Bellamy]

It was too late. I was exhausted the next day. Exhausted. But it was worth it because you go from, I'm watching Dallas and Dallas and Colorado because I think the other game's over. Then I hear the other games tied. Now I hear the other team takes the Kings take the lead again. So I switch over to that, and by the time I get back to Dallas and Colorado, Dallas scores the game's.

[Adnan Burke]

Over.

[Roy Bellamy]

Missed all of it.

[Ethan]

You have a second window.

[David Dwork]

I do have a second win earlier this week in Los Angeles. The first two games, national anthems, big story, obviously. Now lately, a little bit controversial with everything that the US And Canada, the. What is it called? The harmonica class of the Koreatown Senior and Community center of Los Angeles.

[Ethan]

Wow. That's a long title.

[David Dwork]

They did their own rendition in harmonica of the anthem. We don't have the audio for fear of getting clipped on. On YouTube, but I will tell you, it is divisive. Some love it, some don't. But the fact that everybody was talking about it, the fact that it was just a universally seemed to be enjoyed thing, except for some people who maybe didn't like how it sounded, but, I mean, who care. It brought everybody together. People were smiling, people were enjoying it. The fans were singing it like crazy. It just was a fun thing. I thought. Even if I wasn't crazy about how it sounded, I thought it was just the cool. The whole cool thing was the fans.

[Ethan]

Got to sing it.

[David Dwork]

The fans got so into it. And that's what gets me into it. It's like any kind of fan interaction. So I thought that was a win.

[Rosie]

Rosie, I'm going for a win now that we're talking about this, because LA is winning against Edmonton, so we don't have to fly to Edmonton and don't say anything.

[Roy Bellamy]

Don't ch it. Yeah. The Oilers were down three nothing in the Cup Final last year. You had to go to Edmonton twice.

[Rosie]

Right now, I'm liking what I'm seeing. So I'm gonna go. And those are my wins.

[David Dwork]

Rose is high in the Kings.

[Rosie]

Beautiful puck.

[Ethan]

All right. My win of the week got two of them. First, the IIHF Women's World Championship ended with free bird being played in Czechia.

[David Dwork]

Yes.

[Ethan]

Tessa Janicki ended up scoring the golden goal in overtime for the United States to beat Canada 43 in Chechia. So they got to go. Congratulations, ladies. That is excellent for you. Really happy for you. So shout out to the United States Women's Hockey Club.

[David Dwork]

Wouldn't you love a good stick toss into the crowd celebration?

[Ethan]

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

[David Dwork]

Was it Jack Hughes that did that first?

[Ethan]

Yeah, I think so. Love that. That was great. My second win of the week is from the Carolina Hurricanes Twitter department social media team. On Easter Sunday, Carolina beats the New Jersey Devils 41 to go, up 1 nothing in the series. They now lead to nothing. And the Hurricanes went on Twitter, currently known as X, and posted the following message. Not today.

[David Dwork]

So good.

[Ethan]

That was on Easter Sunday.

[Roy Bellamy]

Even better, because they were mad that they had to play on Easter Sunday. The. The Hurricanes, they thought it was unfair to them and their fans. Amazing tweet.

[Ethan]

Yeah, Ethan.

[Roy Bellamy]

My win of the week goes to Matthew Tkachuk, guys. It was so great to see him back on the ice, but for this specific reason. So Jake Gensel scores the goal to make it 1:1 early in this is going back to game one on Tuesday night. So after he scores, he scores while Matthew Tkachuk is in the penalty box, Right? And after he scores, Chucky's coming out of the penalty box and he chirps him. Gensoul yells right over at him, says something to him. So what does Matthew Tkachuk do? He responds with not one and a beautiful goal here on Vasileski, but two goals to make it 51 Panthers. And then in game two, after everything went down with Brendan Hagel, he's chirping Brendan Hagel, and he's saying, no, I don't care about you, and pointing at Nikita Kucherov, who obviously slew footed him earlier in the year. We'll see what kind of response the Panthers have in game three. But I absolutely love Chucky answering back the chirps with two goals and then getting the last laugh in Tampa last night.

[Ethan]

All right, fellows of the week, David.

[David Dwork]

All right, my fail of the week. We are going to Toronto. Ridley Gregg of the Ottawa Senators.

[Ethan]

That's where usually the fails happen in Toronto.

[David Dwork]

Look at you.

[Adnan Burke]

Hey, listen, I'm tripping.

[David Dwork]

He was trying to get in the kitchen of Anthony Stolars, our old friend Stoli, the goalie who's doing amazing for Toronto. And Stoley was having none of it. He was hacking him, checking him, pushing him in the back, gives him a slash to the midsection. Just get out of my crease. And then after we think it's over, Greg tries, for some reason, tries to go back through the crease on his way out of the zone. And Stolaris just gave him a bat shoulder and knocked him square on his ass. I support goalies protecting their homeland, the creases, their space. I am all for Anthony Stolars doing this. I thought that was great. Ridley grad does a fail on you. Stay out of the crease, buddy.

[Ethan]

Yeah. My fellow of the week is this guy. Apparently, he can't decide whether he's a Panthers fan or a Lightning fan because he took two separate jerseys, two separate Panthers jerseys and two. Two separate Panthers jersey and a separate Lightning jersey, cut them in half and sewed each Half together with the other one. It looks ridiculous.

[David Dwork]

And he's number 69.

[Ethan]

Yeah, it was a cus. They were custom jerseys, by the way. The. The player number was 69, and the name on the back was Dougie Fresh. You know what that means? There are two versions of this jersey because the Panthers have said Dougie and has six. The lightning half had Fresh in nine. So that means that there's another half that has a lightning portion that says Dougie in six, and the Panthers version that has Fresh in nine.

[David Dwork]

Well, that makes sense.

[Ethan]

That's loser mentality.

[David Dwork]

If that one gets dirty, he can go to his backup.

[Ethan]

Whatever, man. I mean, he spent $500 on two jerseys just to ruin both of them.

[David Dwork]

It's a weird look. For all the years of Panthers lightning hockey. I don't think I'd ever seen that before. It's a weird look.

[Ethan]

I've seen bad Panthers jerseys. I've seen a fake jersey from China with Desantis on the back of the jersey, and that's equally as bad as that, basically, in my. In my humble opinion, Ethan.

[Roy Bellamy]

All right, my fellow week goes to Evan Bouchard, and I'm going to tell you why here. This goal that he lets up to Quentin Byfield. Game two was a massacre by the Los Angeles Kings. Byfield walks right in. Now, a lot of people are saying you got to blame Darnell Nurse here because it's his responsibility to pick up Byfield and Boost charge is cutting off the passing lane. But you can't just let your guy skate right in on your goalie and have a point Blake opportunity like that. In my opinion, like, I understand that if Byfield gets the pass off and Bouchard steps towards him, that he's going to get the flack for taking, you know, not taking away the passing lane, but ultimately, you. They let your guy walk right by you. You got to try and make a play and put some pressure on Byfield, because even if he does go for that pass, maybe your stick is right there to block it away. I thought that was poor effort from Evan Bouchard. And it's just a bad look. Just watching a guy skate right in on Stewart Skinner like that, Rosie.

[Rosie]

And my fail of the week, if you can see, is this man because of what he did to Barky. So whoever gives three, there's a big reward. Yeah, that is my fail of the week.

[Ethan]

All right, for those on dkn, we haven't coming on next. You can watch that on YouTube. You can log on to the Levitage Show YouTube page and click on playlists and click on our show. You can watch the rest of the show there. We got Adnan Burke coming up next.

[Adnan Burke]

Folks, listen up.

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[Ethan]

All right. We are joined by Adnan Burke. He is the studio host of Prime Monday Night Hockey. And right now, I just want to start with this. We had John Ortiz. Yeah, we all know from Bad Monkey. We've seen him in Carlito's Way.

[David Dwork]

He's been in everything. He's been so much character, too fast, too furious. Wasn't he the bad guy?

[Ethan]

Yeah, he was in that movie as well. Now, he came on and he talked about Carlito's Way and how he acted with Pacino. He said that Pacino had to leave to attend the 1993 Academy Awards ceremony for the movies of 1992. And he gave a trivia question to me. Well, not just to me, but to the entire Levittard show. And this is how it sounded.

[Adnan Burke]

Pacino needed to fly to LA for the Oscars. He was nominated for two that year.

[Mike Ryan]

Roy, go ahead and take your guess.

[Ethan]

A Scent of a Woman. Scent of a Woman is what he has guessed.

[David Dwork]

But there's two, Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

He's trapped you.

[Adnan Burke]

Because the difficult one was not the first one. You jumped into the breach. You're like, I got it, Dan.

[Ethan]

And then you had no number two Glengarry Glenn Ross. So he was wrong, I was right. And I have Atnan Burke to confirm that. Isn't that right, Aunt Nan?

[Adnan Burke]

Roy, I'm screaming at my Phone. No, Roy is right. Roy is right. Like this. I don't know a lot of things, fellas, but I know Al Pacino and Oscar nominations. He's at eight Academy Award nominations. And I vividly remember. Excuse me, 1992. I get choked up when Al finally 1% of a woman. But I'm going to go see Glengarry Glen Ross this weekend. It's my favorite play. It's the third time I've seen it on Broadway. It's amazing, Dave. I saw it 15 years ago with Lie Shriver and Alan Alden.

[David Dwork]

Oh, my God.

[Adnan Burke]

Yeah, exactly. I saw it seven years ago with Pacino playing Shelly lavine, which, of course, the Jack Lemon role, and Bobby Valley playing Ricky Roma. Now I'm getting Kieran Culkin as Ricky Roma, Bob Odenkirk as the Shelley the Machine, and we get a little Bill Burr. But to Roy's point, I go, no, that's absolutely right. I remember watching Siskel and Ebert, and Ebert kept saying, he should win for Ricky Roma. That's actually the better movie, the better performance, Mammoth Pacino, etc, but he's going to win for Lt. Col. Flank Slade. So I immediately text R. Hey, you're right. Like, he owes an apology. And I've actually interviewed John Ortiz. He's a great guy. He's one of the few guys, fellas, that actually have his number. So I texted Roy first to go, hey, you're absolutely right. Dick Tracy's 1991, just to be clear. And I texted John Ortiz, awesome job in the Levitar store. He's like, yeah. He's like, hey, man, make sure you check out my baseball doc. It'd be great. And I wrote back, yeah, listen, I'm gonna try and get you on MLB Network. I didn't realize that this baseball thing go through the pipeline. As Jess mentioned on that show, his son's name is Clemente. But Roy didn't pull the trigger. I want to then follow up and go, hey, just for the record, you were wrong. Roy's right. You owe him an apology. And maybe you won't believe me, but then I can send a screenshot. 1993 Academy Awards. Look, there's Al nominated for best actor. And there is your supporting actor. I can even tell you that Gene Hackman beat him in 1992 for supporting actor.

[Ethan]

Well, you got his phone number. Still pull that trigger, Roy.

[Adnan Burke]

But, Roy, how do you do that with, like, Ethan? How do you do that in a delicate manner? I don't know him that well. I want to say, hey, great Job would like to interview you. By the way, you're wrong. You owe Roy an apology.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's a tough spot. I don't. I don't interact with celebrities very often, so I don't have much.

[David Dwork]

No contest, no admin. Just send him this 60 second clip with no context and just see what he says.

[Adnan Burke]

Great idea, Dave. Just, just.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'm going to clip this for social. Send him the Instagram reel that we put out, by the way, on Twitter.

[David Dwork]

Roy was right, Ortiz.

[Rosie]

And then let's do a video where we go all the celebrities that we can.

[Ethan]

Oh, for crying out loud.

[Rosie]

Come on, let's do it.

[Ethan]

No, let's not know that.

[David Dwork]

I got a better idea. Adnan, how about you and I do Broadway revival reviews? Let's just.

[Ethan]

The producers. Yeah, go ahead and do that.

[Roy Bellamy]

And then I have one more on Broadway.

[Adnan Burke]

David and Adn, go check it out.

[David Dwork]

Let's go.

[Roy Bellamy]

We have one more movie question for you before we get to hockey. Roy claims to have never seen Toy Story or an episode of Friends. Do you believe him?

[Adnan Burke]

Listen, I'm with him on Friends. I've also never seen an episode. Way to go, Roy.

[Roy Bellamy]

You've never come across an episode. Just glance.

[Adnan Burke]

I've come across and flipped and got. Oh, Friends. I hate the show. Keep going.

[Roy Bellamy]

That's what I'm saying.

[Adnan Burke]

Like, yeah, I've come across. I've not seen an episode. I've not seen a scene of it. I've seen 10 seconds perhaps. Okay. Oh, there's Jennifer. That's when she had the Rachel haircut. Like, I know these things as a pop culture guy, but I'm like, I don't. I know the Rachel cut. I know Schwimmer. I know Matthew. I read Matthew Perry's book Rose, because he's Canadian, so I read his book. So I know things about Friends. But, like, I've never watched an episode of Friends. Never more shocked. Toy Story, especially because Roy is a daughter. And Toy Story is pretty epic. Roy, I would get on it. That's a great, great movie we talked about earlier. Normally, sequels are not good. There's a rare one that The Toy Story 3 might be the best actually of the four of them. Toy Story 3. Magical ending. One might say profound.

[David Dwork]

Rose, I like Toy Story 3.

[Rosie]

Yeah.

[David Dwork]

Wait, wait, real quick, real quick. Just adding in Seinfeld.

[Adnan Burke]

Love Seinfeld, Dave. Without question, that was my jam. Listen, Dave, like, it's like with sports. You go, okay, I'm either Panthers or Lightning. I go, no, I'm a Seinfeld guy. If we're gonna have two shows, the 90s, must see TV, all white cast, living in New York City. I'm taking Jerry and the friend over those friends. I don't want those.

[David Dwork]

I'll take the reality, the realistic friends over the ones that seem to, you know, everybody's getting along, they're fooling around with each other, but it's not getting awk like, nice.

[Rosie]

Okay. So as part of the hockey club, there's going to be a watch party and you'll have to be part of the watch party and we're going to watch a friend's episodes.

[Adnan Burke]

Please don't do that to me. Me and Roy have gone this far in life without doing it. That would be.

[David Dwork]

So at least like, we'll make them watch the episode where.

[Roy Bellamy]

The apartment episode. The apartment episode.

[David Dwork]

Is that the episode?

[Roy Bellamy]

No, the one where they trade apartments. It's really funny.

[David Dwork]

That's got to watch the one that.

[Rosie]

They go to a hospital.

[Roy Bellamy]

Yes. It's fun.

[Ethan]

All right. We have talked entirely. Way too much.

[David Dwork]

Is anybody still here for Hockey Talk?

[Ethan]

Just. Let's go into the Stanley cup playoffs, please. All right. It's been a disaster for the Edmonton Oilers. And I'm saying that fully with the knowledge of the fact that the Oilers came back on the Panthers In Force Game 7, the previous Stanley cup final. I know they had the ability to come back, but right now it's just looking like Leon Draisidle and Connor McDavid. The goaltending, the goaltender is bad. They can't protect the puck. The defense is terrible. That's how it's been versus the Los Angeles and Los Angeles Kings, who for the fourth time in a row are playing each other in the first round. Will the oldest come back in the series?

[Adnan Burke]

I don't think so. Right. Obviously I don't think it's gonna be a sweep, but I think when you take a 20 stranglehold on the series, generally speaking, it's lights out. I know. It's hockey. Things change. You go to home wise. You can't call serious. Everything's played at home. But this Kings team, on paper, I called them to win in six. And you mentioned specifically the reason why. The Oilers back in without Ackholm. He's such a difference maker without him for the first round of the playoffs, the goal thing's never been airtight. I think Kemper's clearly an advantage there for Los Angeles and Elliott has more depth and consistency. It makes me think about the 04 NBA Finals. Those great signs and the Pistons beat the Lakers. The Pistons, of course, had Ben Wallace for Hamilton, Chauncey Billups, the Lakers at Shaq and Kobe. And the sign said, and I'm not a poker guy, but a full house beats a pair of aces. And that's what I think with the Kings, I go, hey, a full house. They've got a talented team top to bottom that beats the pair of Aces of McDavid and Dry Saddle. And honestly, if LA doesn't win this series, fellas, fourth street year, like you said, Roy, to be up 2 0, you might as well just go ahead and cancel the franchise. Just go ahead and move and just say, we're done. If we can't beat these guys the fourth time in a row, and this time with home ice and clearly feeling like the favorite, then it's ballgame. Luke Robiti. It's been fun. See ya. But I think they win. I think Jim Hiller is a good coach. I do not think they put their foot off the gas. Oilers win game three, but Kings in six.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'll say this, I'll say this. Last year, when the Kings were down or the Oilers were down two nothing and then down three nothing in the Stanley Cup Final, there were signs of life, right? Like there were good games, they played good games, but the Panthers just kind of got them at the end of a couple of those games. There are no signs of life from the oilers after game two. Really, like game one, you saw McDavid, he willed his team back into it. He had four points. But I just kind of think that in game two, you saw a shift. Now there's a goalie controversy because they made the change for Pickard in game two. It just feels like there's not this, this is LA's year. Like, it just feels like they finally have it right. All the recipes this year.

[David Dwork]

This is their year to get out of the first round. This is the year.

[Adnan Burke]

Dave, to your point, I just saw a great documentary with the Hartford Whalers. And as Roy knows, having been at ESPN for nine years, they lived in Connecticut the whole time there. I'm like, God, I wish the Whalers were here. There's no sports teams here. But when the Whalers actually won around, as you guys know, they're in the Adams Division one year. John Forson, who's the great play man for Amazon prime and was the voice of the Whalers, they had the seventh best record in hockey. They're only fourth in their division. Division. That's how good the Adams Division was. They always lost the Bruins and The Habs, the one year they actually went around, they held the parade. They won one round and they held the parade in Connecticut.

[David Dwork]

That's the original Nashville Predators right there.

[Ethan]

All right. In Toronto, there was a situation, it was a hullabaloo. There was a whole bunch of penalties that happened in the first round, the first game of the first round. And apparently the referee, Garrett Rank, needed a little bit of help to list off all the penalties that happened during the game.

[Roy Bellamy]

Original penalty on the ice to Toronto, number 89, two minutes for high sticking. Ottawa number 15 has two minutes for roughing.

[Adnan Burke]

And then Toronto number two, 11, 25.

[Roy Bellamy]

74 and 89 have two minutes for roughing.

[Ethan]

And Then Ottawa 43, 15, 20 at 81 have two minutes for nothing.

[Adnan Burke]

We're going to play four on four.

[Ethan]

And it's been that way every throughout the entire series. There have been a lot of penalties going on in that. In that series. So what do you think is going to happen? Because it seems like the Maple Leafs have a stranglehold against the Senators right now.

[Adnan Burke]

Well, kind of what Ethan was referring to there with the Oilers, like when you go down, they haven't looked good for the centers. What's frustrating is that two of these games have been overtime games. It's not like the Leafs have have choked the life out of them. And yet they have because now it's a 30 series. So I really wish Ottawa had at least been one of those games again. If you don't have a dog in the race, I just want as much hockey as possible. I called Senzen 7. I now look moronic. So I'm very annoyed at the Ottawa Senators and their fan base and Brady Kachuk and all the rest of it. But the big key here, guys, has been special teams. I mean, you nailed it. Roy, the fact that you mentioned the penalties. The Leafs are 5 for 9 of the power play. They have not had their big guns be well in the power play in the past. A heck of a pass by Mitch Marner in that game through last night to Auston Matthews. If your stars are clicking on the power play, there's no way you're going to lose this game. Michaels is the voice of the Oilers. I was asking about the Oilers power play against the Kings in the playoffs the last three years. Prior to this year, it was over 40%. Like it's just a crazy number. And even Chris Knoblik had said to me a couple weeks ago, it's going to come down to special teams. So it's always so valuable in the Playoffs. I think people often say, well there's less penalties called. It's not as important. Well no, there's less penalties called. Yeah but there's less goal scores. When you get the opportunity, you got to make the most of it. The Leafs have, Ottawa hasn't shut them down. Leafs up three zip. It's probably going to be a sweep.

[David Dwork]

So I want to stay with this series for a second. Adnan. But something that happened off the ice that I thought was kind of funny, I wanted to get your take on. After the Leafs scored and I think it was game one. There was a shot of their bench celebrating. The coaches were really into it, particularly Mark Savard the assistant coach was like fist pumping and then Craig Berube kind of gave him a little elbow to the chops and was like a simmer down now. Simmer down. I, I don't really know what to think of this. I, you know, I like, you know, I never thought there was a big deal of coaches celebrating. I mean we've had Paul Maurice literally give Jamie Tom Pont a gut punch after Matthew Tachuk scored the goal against Carolina a couple of years ago in the conference final. Do you think this is a thing that coaches need to behave themselves or is this more of a Berube like his own kind of thing?

[Adnan Burke]

I think it's Brubi's thing and I love Chief, he's a great guy. He's one of the biggest reasons why I think you might like the Leafs to be different this year because he's a iron willed, hard nosed coach that the players do enjoy playing for him. He won the world a Stanley cup obviously as you know, five years ago the Blues. So I think it's more chief old school disciplinary and I got no issue with it. I like when the coaches get fired up. Dave. It's one of my favorite shots when the team wins the Stanley cup that cut to the coach of course. Your guys favorite, Paul Maurice who doesn't love him. He's a quote machine. He's a lovable guy. When they won that shot a mo pump on his fist and fired up, I got emotional just seeing it. So I'm with you man. When people are excited, want to exalt. I don't care if it's game one of the playoff or game three or it's game seven, I think it's okay. And for coaches I don't, I don't like this Barry Sanders. Hey, I think you've been there before. Like it's okay. Be excited.

[Roy Bellamy]

You're the Coach Adnan, I don't know if you saw this press conference earlier this week, but Jim Rutherford of the Vancouver Canucks. This was really interesting. I want to play the sound first, and then I want to get your reaction to it.

[Adnan Burke]

It down to money with him. You know, he said before he wants to play with his brothers, and that would be partly out of our control, in our control if we brought his brothers here. So there's many moving parts here. Agree 100%, this franchise cannot afford to lose a guy like Quinn Hughes. And we will do everything we can to keep him here, but at the end of the day, it'll be. It'll be his decision.

[Roy Bellamy]

I love this awkward pause here as everybody kind of sorts out what just happened.

[Adnan Burke]

We got to be careful with tampering here, so we'll just leave it at that.

[Ethan]

Careful with tampering.

[Roy Bellamy]

What do we make of that? And how hellish of an off season is Quinn Hughes in for after his GM throws him under the bus like that?

[Adnan Burke]

Pretty big mess there, Ethan. I mean, if Vancouver, it's amazing a year ago, they're a team that, hey, maybe they can push towards Seattle. Finally had a great run. Talking feels the right coach. They've got star talent. They've got a great goalie in Demko, and then Demko's not healthy. J.T. miller and Elise Peterson hate each other. They trade Miller. Pedersen stinks. He's wildly overpaid. 11.6 million is outrageous. Doesn't feel like Rick Tocquet wants to be the coach there anymore. And then you got Jim Rutherford, whose press conferences all over the place, and God forbid, if they lose Quinn Hughes, fellas, I got to be able to watch him here in Jersey. We had one of the games on prime, and like, the whole time, you're just drawn to him. Your eyes are transfixed on him because he's so fast and so skilled. And I watched Avalanche game the next week and got to see Kale McCarr in person. So you cannot lose Quinn Hughes no matter what. And if they lose him, I couldn't imagine what's already kind of a negative fan base. Fellas in Vancouver would give you more pessimistic and more negative. Jim Rutherford seems like he's almost running a rudderless ship. I know he's done a lot of great things in hockey, but that was not a great look for him.

[Ethan]

The New Jersey Devils in that series against the Carolina Hurricanes is over. Like, it was over before he even started. I mean, like, the Devils right now might as well be playing with Cash and slings and band aids right now because they are so hurt. If the Hurricanes gift them a game, it will be a gentleman sweep. What do you think? What do you think?

[Adnan Burke]

By the way, I love the expression of gentleman sweep. The other day, somebody asked me, does that mean if you lose the game, one, they get swept? I'm like, yeah. They go, kind of like it. Like, yeah, underrated for that. I'm with you, Roy. On our podcast, NHL Scripted, me and Jason DeMariz were going through each series just as you guys did, and when we got to Kane's Devils, I told them I couldn't care less. You have one minute to discuss this. He's like, what? I go, I don't care. I don't think hockey fans care. I'm not going to be watching it if the Knicks are playing, I'll watch the Knicks game instead. I don't. Couldn't care less. So I'm with you. Carolina's going to win. The only thought Demers had was, oh, Markstrom could steal a game. I'm like, nope, nobody cares. They don't have their star players in the jersey. The second half is a much different story for Sheldon Keefe and his team. Carolina will move on, and they're a team that hasn't had playoff success. As you guys know. The thought with Carolina is always very good, not great. Don't have a star player can elevate. They're going to beat the Devils, and who knows what happens after that.

[Roy Bellamy]

The news update just dropped just to make it worse for the Devils. Neither Brendan Dillon or Luke Hughes will play in game three tonight.

[Ethan]

Well, you count that as l. I'm.

[David Dwork]

Excited for this, though, because the idea of, like, a big, exciting game in Montreal, playoff hockey with fans in the building, which they didn't have on their last run when they went to the final during COVID like that. This is for me. If there's an upset, I want it to be here. I want to see the Bell center or stupid.

[Ethan]

Okay.

[Roy Bellamy]

People who have.

[David Dwork]

We're actually far from Canada right now.

[Roy Bellamy]

Call it what it's called, called Central Bell.

[David Dwork]

Oh, my God, dude.

[Ethan]

All right, all right, all right. Moving on, moving on here. The New York Islands.

[Adnan Burke]

Dave's point, though, I agree. Like, people ask me, they go, do people in America care about Canadian teams? I said, if you like hockey, you like hockey. Montreal's won 24 Stanley Cups. It's a historic, prestigious franchise, and it's the best arena to go to if there's one game to go to. It is Le Central Belle, as Ethan is informing us.

[David Dwork]

Croissant, or do we say croissant whenever we order one? Guys like, what are we doing here?

[Adnan Burke]

Finally don't have scope.

[Ethan]

Finally the. And I said that the Islanders fired him. They did not fire him. They're not going to renew his contract. Lou Lamarello, they're not gonna. They're not gonna rehire.

[David Dwork]

They didn't fire him before his contract was over. All right. Anyway, I'm sorry, what are your thoughts.

[Ethan]

On Islanders moving on from the team president slash general manager?

[Adnan Burke]

So Lou's the kind of guy, Roy, like it's my way or the highway. It's really done a lot of great things. Hall of Famer, obviously, very important in terms of bringing Russian players to the NHL. Slava Fetisoff, way back in the day in this instance. And I work with Thomas Hickey on Prime. Thomas does like 70 Islanders games. He goes lose. The kind of guy, like, he's certainly disciplinarian and no beards and all the rest of it, which is kind of outdated, but whatever. When he got there, they were a team that needed improvement. He got that. They had back to back Final Fours. To me, that's impressive. Lost the Lightning both times. The Lightning went on to win the Stanley Cup. But now, I mean, that second half fave took the last 20 games was abysmal. I don't know if Patrick Waugh wants to be the head coach there. I don't know if he wants to be the gm. He's done that before. I thought. I think that's different when you. You're the GM of a junior team versus NHL teams. Kind of like Nick Saban go to the NFL. Doesn't always work. Work. I asked Hicks, do the players like Wall? He said, I think they like him because he's Patrick Wall. I don't know if necessarily he's a great coach, but I think Lou's the kind of guy, like, it just kind of runs its course. What I'm fascinated by, does he go anywhere else? I don't think anyone else is going to give him the job. He's in his early 80s, looks great for his job. Is he an advisory type guy? No, I think Luke kind of wants to be the job. I don't think he wants to be like an advisor. So I don't know what happens next for Lou lamarell and for the Islanders. Another issue, Roy. Their farm system is terrible in Bridgeport. Like they don't have any stars in that team. So it's, I think, a little bleak right now for Islanders. They try to turn this thing around.

[Ethan]

All right, we still have Adnan to talk about the Florida Panthers in their series against the Tampa Bay Lightning and we will get to that next.

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[Ethan]

We return with Aunt Nan Berkeley as we talk about the Panthers and we go over the first two games of their series against the Tampa Bay Lightning. But before we do that, the entire threshold of the series, we're going to talk about this hit by Brandon Hagel on Alexander Barkov, which was absolutely interference and it was a right call on the ice. They gave it a major so they could review it and that they did and they decided to give it a major. They did not give it a game of Scotland because according to Dave Jackson who was on Twitter, he's usually the the know it all for the officials for espn. He said that it wasn't apparent that there was an injury on the ice and that's why they didn't give Hagel a game misconduct. They just gave him a major and the Panthers ended up with 4, about 416 of uninterrupted power play on that because it was a 4 and 4. So that's a sit. That was the situation last night. Night. Alexander Barkov, we hope will be fine enough to play game three.

[David Dwork]

Probably get an update here in real time very soon. Paul Maurice is going to speak to the media as we record this pretty soon. So by the time you're listening to this, you may already know. Hopefully. Good news on Barkov. Go back to last year, Roy, during the Stanley Cup Final when Barkov got lit up by Leon Dry Seidel at the end of game two. Panthers were up two nothing in the series. And you and I were salty as hell afterwards. I was pissed because we thought, okay, we're going back to Edmonton and they just lost their cat.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[David Dwork]

So hopefully he's okay.

[Ethan]

Now we can play the video again because I want to show everybody why this was interference. McDonough touched the puck. All right. Barkov did not touch the puck. He was going towards the. The fetch the puck and the puck was nowhere near him. And that's when Hagle ended up slamming him to the ice. That was clear cut interference. The puck was nowhere near.

[Roy Bellamy]

It's a nasty hit.

[David Dwork]

That angle right there from behind the net where you can actually see how far away the puck was and it was right in front of field division. That's not a good look for Hagel.

[Ethan]

Referee too.

[Roy Bellamy]

Hagel's got a hearing today. Adan. I'm curious if you think he'll get a one game suspension here. Yeah.

[Adnan Burke]

My colleague and friend Mike Johnson was fired up on HL Network. And I thought he was great. You know, the first time I saw it, guys like, oh, what a great hit. We all love great hits. And then once Johnny explained it very carefully and kind of the point that Roy made, which is that he didn't. Barkov didn't touch the puck, that that is interference. Absolutely. And that kind of hit is just vicious. And the more you watch it, it went from very quickly to, oh, what a great hit, to like, oh, what a dirty play. And Johnny made a great point again on Hlat Rick. He said, and that is absolutely a suspendable hit. And he goes, and I know it's a playoffs and you got to maim a guy to get suspended in the playoffs. And I know Hagel's a great player and a great goal scorer, but that should be two games in the regular season. That's one game in the playoffs. And Barkov, as you guys know more than anybody, is such an invaluable player. He's always in the mix for the Selkie. He brings so much, that Panthers team. I mean, this will be awful news if he's out for an extended period of time. So I like the rough stuff and the physicalities. We see anybody. The first time I saw it, I'm like, oh, yeah, great hit. Then I'm like, no, that is brutal. And a dirty, cheap play by Hagel. He should know better.

[Ethan]

The importance of Bhar not being in the lineup, if that happens, which hopefully, hopefully he will be in the lineup, is. The Panthers lost their best penalty killer.

[David Dwork]

Well, their number one center, their best penalty killer, best defensive forward, arguably best offensive forward. I mean, Sam Brown.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[David Dwork]

Five player in the league.

[Ethan]

Yeah. And you're going against a excellent power play with the Tampa Bay Lightning, which.

[Roy Bellamy]

The Panthers have done a great job of stifling so far, and hopefully that continues.

[Ethan]

Yeah, thanks. If you lose that, that's. That's an important piece that you lose on your penalty kill.

[Roy Bellamy]

I'll say this, a lot of the talk after the game is all, the Panthers have got to go next game, and if Hagel plays, they got to light them up or they got to go after Kucherov or whatever. None of that, in my opinion, like, as a Panther fan, I want to see them play their game. Just like kind of last year, Boston tried to muck things up after the whole Brad Marshan, Sam Bennett stuff. You kind of just go out there, you play your game, you win the game, and you do your talking on the ice and you just be the bigger man. And I just want to see the Panthers go out there, dominate game three win and basically put an end to the series.

[Ethan]

Have long memories. They will remember that hit and they will take care of that next season.

[Roy Bellamy]

But for right now, there's bigger fish to fry. You got to win this. We're trying to win a Stanley cup here.

[Rosie]

Bigger fish take care of this in this season.

[Ethan]

It's the playoffs.

[Rosie]

So they're not going to kick the guy.

[Ethan]

I mean if you hit the guy, you might.

[David Dwork]

They're not going to put themselves in a shorthanded situation.

[Rosie]

Come on. I'm going to. I'm going to make a moment, Rose.

[Ethan]

They will take care of it. If he is a lightning player, they will take care of it next season. If he is not a lightning player, they will take care of it on whatever team they in he ends up on. They will play them. They will play them and they will take care of them.

[David Dwork]

Then before. Thank you, Rose. Before we move on from this, Adnan, and thank you very much. I was going to paraphrase the Mike Johnson sound because I couldn't find good enough quality of it. I took it on my phone last night. I was going to paraphrase it, but you did such an excellent job explaining how passionate he was. Thank you for that. Another one of our hockey journalistic buddies out there, Brian Boucher, who was on the call for TNT last night. He had some thoughts as well in the immediate moments after the hit. Hit. I want to play that for you and just kind of get your take. I was not a fan and to.

[Adnan Burke]

Find a way to get an edge.

[Roy Bellamy]

At any moment and if you can.

[Adnan Burke]

Remove a player from a series or a game, even if you have to come up with a five minute kill, perhaps that's what Hagel's thinking and we'll see if his team can come up with the kill in this situation.

[David Dwork]

But sounded like it was kind of advocating they're coming up with like oh well maybe if this is what he was doing and I don't know, I just think putting those thoughts out into the world in that moment is not the best thing.

[Ethan]

Well, keep in mind this was during post game. It's not exactly what Boucher said, but Brad Marchon kind of said the same thing when Sam Bennett punched him in the face. Now that wasn't what, that was not what injured him in that series. It was him running into gadget. But that's somewhat similar to what Brad Marchant said during that playoff series last season.

[Adnan Burke]

Listen, you can never advocate for vigilante justice. At least Publicly, especially. And I like Brian Boucher. I think Boost does a great job. But I'm like, especially as an analyst, I just, I don't think you can say that. I mean, I understand the theory that whatever you need to do to win, if you need to take out their best player, you can. But there's a way to do that legally, there's a way to do that illegally. And I wouldn't abide by doing it illegally, you know. Yeah.

[Ethan]

Let's talk about the actual series now. And the Panthers seem to have a stranglehold on it now. A lot of the media pundits have picked the Tampa Bay Lightning to go six or seven and take the series, which absolutely pisses me off. Have you not seen Panthers. The Panthers the last two seasons? Like, what are we doing here? Why? Why, like now, granted, I did disrespect the Lightning, wondering why exactly they were here, but. But come on now. I mean, this is a Panthers club that obviously is, when they are at full strength, are much better than the Tampa Bay Lightning. And now they have a two game lead on Tampa. So where do you see this series going?

[Adnan Burke]

I'm very proud, Roy. I called the Panthers in six and obviously partial to you guys and partial to Paul Maurice, the fact that they made the Stanley Cup Final back to back years, I'm like, no. I said I thought they were very smart and crafty and shrewd in terms of playing time down the stretch. That mo realized, all right, I got to keep these guys healthy. It's a marathon, not a sprint. Let's do this the right way. I did not expect 2, 0 series lead, especially with both games. Emily Arena. But I'm thrilled for the Panthers. And again, Jason Burr said to me we were all wrong. I'm like, who's we? He's like, well, everyone was picking the lighting. I go, I didn't. I called the Panthers in six. You can take your Wii and shove it, unless you mean, yeah, as a royal. We. I go, well, not me. I picked the Panthers in six. You can go check the tape on that. So I think he means every analyst on ESPN was definitely calling the Lightning royal. You're right. Right. Most of the media were not. But you and I called the Panthers. To me, you're the champion until you get dethroned. And the Lightning certainly have talent up and down the lineup. I'm well familiar with it. I got Vasilevsky's exploits, but he wasn't good in game one. I don't think he's going to steal this series, and I don't think the Lightning can win four or five games against the defending Stanley cup champion. Not going to happen. Panthers in six.

[Roy Bellamy]

I also said Panthers in six. Add in. And after that first game, you see the way the Panthers kind of dominate. I mean, the score line was dominant, but I thought the play on the ice was pretty dominant as well. Vasileski has an off game. And so after that game, I'm looking at it and I'm saying, what makes Tampa fans feel like this could be a long series other than, oh, Vasileski is not going to play like that the rest of the series. Well, he played pretty great last night. I thought he was phenomenal in Game two. He made some huge saves, bounced back after he let us off 1 in early to Nate Schmidt. But the Panthers still won that game and completely shut down the offense. Nikita Kucherov once again nowhere to be found in this series. It just feels like the Panthers kind of right now have the Lightning's number after the last two seasons and now they're up 2 0. They come home and they get Aaron Ekblad back. This team hasn't been at full strength for two months since the Four nations when Tkachuk went down. Then they lost Eggplant. Now Tkachuk is back, Ekblad is coming back in the lineup. We'll see if they'll even be at 100% because we don't know if Barkov will be in the lineup. It just feels like everything is going the Panthers way right now and if they were going to steal a game, it was going to be that one last night. They didn't steal it. It's got to disheartening for the Lightning and Ethan.

[Adnan Burke]

The bigger turn they had in Game one is of course Matthew Tkachuk. He'd been out since his Four nations and to come back with that kind of performance, Two goals and assists, Great on special teams, hitting, banging. I'm like, there's a reason why the Kachuk always bring passion with us, Brady or Matthews. So I'm with you. I think Florida was just, I wouldn't say crafty, but stealth again. Paul Maurice has been there before. He knew what he had to do. Make sure the guys are clicking at the right time. Ekbat offers a severe emotional force. And yeah, is Vasilevsky a great goalie? Sure. He can win a game to win a series. I don't see it.

[Ethan]

I'm looking at the stats right now. 120 shot attempts for Tampa and just about 41 shots on goal have gotten to Sergey Bobrovsky. The Panthers have been blocking shots this entire series. They have 38 block shots. Like the defense has been stifling and they have been blocking shooting lanes. And that's pretty much why. Why you haven't seen Kucharov. Because he's not getting.

[Roy Bellamy]

Anything's been coming from the wings. Nothing's been coming from in front of the net. Like, even when they have dangerous chances, it's kind of not really right in front of the net. And Bobby's not having to do anything too difficult.

[Rosie]

Penalty for time.

[Ethan]

Yeah, we went over. We went over. Well, when Ashley go. So we're going to wrap up here and then thank you for joining us. You can find him as the studio host on Prime Monday Night Hockey. Thank you.

[Adnan Burke]

Thank you so much. Rose, you're an ultimate question for me. We're gonna do that.

[David Dwork]

Come on.

[Ethan]

Yeah, go ahead and do it.

[Rosie]

Do it all the question, even if it doesn't go on the show, if they tell you that you can only talk hockey or movies, which one would you choose?

[David Dwork]

Oh, man.

[Adnan Burke]

I mean, it's always a funny question, but I answer it this way, Rose. I'm not a film critic who happens to like sports. I'm a sportscaster who happens to love movies. So the answer is hockey.

[David Dwork]

Well, can he watch hockey movies, movies, or does it like, what's the watch.

[Rosie]

Hockey movies, but he can only talk about one one of them.

[Roy Bellamy]

Okay, I thought an answer was going to be baseball.

[David Dwork]

Can you believe Ethan?

[Adnan Burke]

That's the right answer.

[Ethan]

There you go.

[David Dwork]

Can you believe that none of the people in this building have seen Mystery Alaska?

[Adnan Burke]

Oh, God.

[Ethan]

What are you talking about? I saw it.

[David Dwork]

Except for Roy.

[Ethan]

Thank you.

[Rosie]

Sorry.

[Adnan Burke]

I knew Roy would definitely have his bona fides. So come on. Mystery Alaska, Russell Crowe and our friend Steve Levy. We gotta get on that. Okay, how about this? We'll do a this watch party for Rose and Ethan to watch Friends, but we have to watch Mystery Alaska first, and then Roy and I can find a way to leave.

[Roy Bellamy]

Okay, I'm in.

[Rosie]

Okay, let's do that. And also, last question. Did you watch Marvelous Mrs. Mason?

[Adnan Burke]

I love that show, Rose. Yeah, I don't watch much TV, but I loved it because I love the 50s, I love that music, I love that era, I love Tony Shalhoub and everything he's in. So, yeah, Rachel Brosnan was amazing. That show. I loved it.

[Rosie]

Oh, beautiful. There's a show that is from the creators of them.

[Adnan Burke]

Yes, Ballet. Competitive ballet. I read about that. Have you watched I haven't, to be honest. Again, I jokes. I like the genre. So 50s comedy Shalhoub. I don't believe any of that is involved with this show. So I'm probably not going to see unless you tell me it's that good.

[Rosie]

I recommend it.

[Ethan]

Okay.

[David Dwork]

What I'm feeling right now is what Rose probably feels during our hot our.

[Roy Bellamy]

Entire the other 45.

[David Dwork]

I'm just sitting here like I'm sitting in front of a microphone. I have nothing to add. I have no idea what's going on. Yeah, this must be what Rose feels like every time.

[Rosie]

But recommended.

[Ethan]

All right, so for Edna and versus Burke for Rosie, for Ethan, for David Dwark for Mike and Jason. My. My name is Roy Bellamy. Bye.

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