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Welcome to the Hockey Show. My name is Roy Bellamy. David Drucker, the Hockey News is to my left. He is the co host of the show. Ethan Badowski is in for Rosie Rose right now. Is. I have no idea where she is, but she's.
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I'm not sure, actually.
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She's listening all parts.
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Wherever she is, she's listening somewhere in.
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The country right now. So, yeah, it's been an interesting week and we're only going to talk about hockey. All right, hot takes. Let's start with the slap shots here. Hot takes. Dave, what you got?
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All right, my hot take comes out of. As I get myself situated here. My hot take comes out of Philadelphia, as we learned. Actually, you know, let's just play the audio. We have that. Ethan, ready to go?
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Yeah. Ethan.
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John Tortorella talking about how the Flyers are treating their star rookie Matt V. Mitchkov, who is having a great first 10 games of his career. Let's hear why he was a healthy scratch last night.
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I apologize if you answered any of these questions already, but I just see Matt Bay is out for tonight.
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What is it that he's not doing that you want to see him do?
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Just part of the process. Is it more a teaching thing?
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Just part of the process?
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Yeah.
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I mean, I told you guys with.
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Young guys, they can watch games too.
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As far as development, so it's trying.
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To help them Now. The reaction to this has been understandably, like, what the hell is going on? How are they doing that with like a potential Calder trophy candidate? Somebody who's playing very well for a first time NHL kid. I get where torts is coming from. We've heard that many head coaches here in Florida, head coaches around the league. We've heard that it doesn't hurt for a young guy to get their feet wet, take a step back, watch, and then jump back in. I get it. But 13 games into a season where the Flyers are currently trying to save themselves. As I looked at the standings next to the cellar of the Eastern Conference. But it's still early enough in the season that everybody's tight.
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Yeah.
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So, yeah, I honestly, like, I feel like I lost my whole train of thought just because like, my hot take was to relax, but now I'm kind of thinking like, but is this the time? So I don't know.
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That seems like a lukewarm take to me instead of a hot one.
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Yeah, I think we need to rename.
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Really ran out of steam there, David.
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Yeah. Oh, shit. You want to start over?
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No. No. Roy, what's your hot take? Let's go.
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Okay. My hot take is a stat that came across my wire because you love to piss me off when stuff like this happens, okay? There's a stat that has been tracked since 1997. The 97, 98 season. Face off wins. Okay? And apparently, and this is going to really piss me off as I say this, Sidney Crosby became the NHL all time Face off wins leader, okay? There hasn't been a single moment in the history of the sport where we talked about a record of Face off wins being broken. What the hell are we doing here? Nobody who gives a about this. Like, what is this Face off wins. This is just an excuse for the National Hockey League to once again shove down an achievement that nobody cares about down our collective throats for Sidney Crosby. I'm tired of this. I'm really tired of hearing about this guy. In 19 years, 19 years, he's been shoved down our throats ad nauseam by this league. He also, by the way, leads the league in all time Face off losses. So basically what this says to me is volume shooter. Yes, he's a volume shooter. He's a Lenny Welcomes. He's a Winnie. He's. See, now I'm stuttering. He's the Lenny Wilkins of the face. Also.
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He's a compiler.
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Exactly. He's a compiler. He's a compiler.
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Omar Viscale. The Omar Viscale of hockey just compiles.
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He's Lenny Wilkins.
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Paul Maurice. Most wins, most losses. Wait. Under the most wins. But he's getting up there.
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Yeah. But yeah, yeah, I won't have the same take for that one.
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I know it's interesting. I'm actually reading another obscure stat. Sidney Crosby actually leads the league in most circular bunny ears when he ties his skates. Nobody has ever done it in the circumference way that he's done it before. It's pretty impressive actually. But that's, that's only been kept track since 03.04.
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Yeah, that's about the same level as Face off wins to me.
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Yeah, felt that way.
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Ethan, you got a hot take?
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I do have a hot take, fellas. My hot take is that Jim Montgomery, as we go to an empty seat, Jim Montgomery is going to be the first coach fired.
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That's very appropriate, actually.
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Yes, the empty, the empty seat was for Jim Montgomery seat, eventually. This guy. There has never been a more fired coach in the history of sports. He is just losing control of his team. He was fighting with Brad Marchand recently. He benched David Posternak. And Gino, if you can throw that tweet back up there. I don't know if you can. The Panthers have completely broken the Boston Bruins. That was my.
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That, that was his opinion.
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That's what I got from the fact that David Posternak, the Panthers have been so in the Bruins heads that they have just broken the Boston Bruins. And the team seems fractured. I mean, they're not playing very well. I know they're still in playoff position, but you know, some of the teams that we were expecting maybe to get back into playoff position like a Buffalo and Ottawa, Detroit, haven't really lived up to that standard. So they're still in playoff position, but they're not playing very well. Their numbers are bad, their metrics are bad. It doesn't look like they're really going anywhere. Going to be a team that we expect to like contend for anything. And he's got all these problems with his players. Two bad playoff runs for him, obviously. Crashing out in the first round with the best team ever and then losing in the second round last year. He is so fired. And I think he's going to be the first coach fired this season.
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Yeah, dirty talk. I'm enjoying this. Keep going.
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Yeah. I mean, during the off season they got bigger and they got slower.
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What was the line? The big bad Bruins are just big and bad. Is that your line?
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Big bad Bruins are just big and bad. Let's go to the win of the week. I'm going to go first. And the winner this week for me is Ty Domi Tai Domi Manage. Yeah. He managed to pull off something that very rarely happens. Embarrass Tom Brady. We have a video of Tom Brady in full hockey gear, by the way.
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This is.
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I, I didn't believe this was real when I first saw it. I'm like, what? What? Grown adult. First of all, anybody would, would do this.
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Yeah.
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Make a video of themselves like this. But of all Tom bleeping Brady.
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Yeah. I gotta explain this here.
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It's like Claire has better form.
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Tom Brady's in full hockey uniform, but he apparently doesn't know how to skate. So Ty Domi had him on a skate sled. So he had to push the sled all around the rink so he wouldn't fall.
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It looks like he's about to take the snap from the skate sled.
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Oh, I love seeing Tom Brady get embarrassed.
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Oh, wait here.
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There he is.
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Of content of Brady.
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Gotta love that.
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Yeah, that. Look at this. Oh, he almost slipped right there.
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Oh my God.
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Now mind you now, Tom Brady after the video said he was going to kill Tai Domi for releasing the video. Now Tom Brady might have 6 to 7 inches of height on Ty Domi because ty Domi is 510 and Tom Brady is still surprises me for no apparent reason. It's 6 5. But Tai Domi has 3515 pony minutes. Third all time. Good luck with that.
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Well, as long as they keep their states on, they'll never catch him anyway.
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Yeah. What's your win of the week, David?
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My win of the week also related to Toronto actually, but a little bit more hockey centric was just an awesome play. It happened in overtime when Toronto was playing Minnesota. And if we have the video here, watch. So Minnesota rushes in a turnover. Oh no, here comes Toronto going the other way. There's Max Domi right there. He tries to push it up. But look at Jared Spurgeon hustle his ass off to get back, but then have the presence of mind to throw it up in one motion. Game over.
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That only happens in overtime for three on three Minnesota.
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That was so cool. But how cool was that play? How smart was that play by Jared Spurgeon to not only recognize to get on his horse to back check to stop the rush, but then mid back check, know that if he that they're changing, the Leafs are changing. I just had to throw it up the ice. And then there's two of the best young players in. Marco Rossi and Matt Boldy. And game over on our boy Anthony Solars who's been amazing for Toronto this year.
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Yeah, he left that Net wide open up.
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He was probably like, what the hell. We're going for a line change facing a 2 on 0. But I just thought that was one of the smartest hockey plays I've seen in a while. Credit to Jared Spurgeon for that. That was really cool.
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Ty Domi. Not exactly fleet of foot.
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No. Max Domi.
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Oh, I'm sorry, no.
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Ty Domi was the previous video.
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But Max Domi, his son. Not exactly. He didn't exactly put a lot of effort into. It was late.
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Yeah, it was late in the shift, but still. You can't lose an overtime like that. But credit to Spurgeon. Smart man.
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Ethan.
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I don't have a winner this week. I just want to say Minnesota is really good, really dangerous. And Capris off looks like a heart. The Heart favorite so far.
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Dynamite drop in money along along with Sam Rine Hart. Somebody's going to get a jersey that just says Ryan Hart.
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Once he went.
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That was my idea.
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That's been my joke for like two weeks now. David, is that he's Ryan Hart. The Rine Hart trophy. Roy, what's your loser of the week?
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My loser of the week is a big time fail here. This is Hurricanes. The Frenchman Jalen Chatfield.
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This is so good.
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Apparently he has a pregame ritual. During the pregame sk. After he's done.
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Oof.
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After he's done with pregame skate, he goes from one side of the ice across the blue line to his bench and he goes into.
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And he falls.
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But he lost an edge and completely crashed into the boards. It was bad. He lost that edge, crashed into the boards, got up, dusted off the snow and then walked to the locker room to the applause of the fans that were around the bench. That's embarrassing.
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Yeah, well, you turn. You turn the fail into a win. So credit.
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No, no, no winning that one. No, Dave.
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My L of the week comes from the game between the Kings and the Predators. And I think most Predators games have come with L's this week. But this game was just the shit show from the start. There was the official getting hurt. There were multiple pretty crazy intense fights in this game. There was a lot of hostility for a game between a couple of teams that are just fighting to get above the playoff. Mendoza Line. Yeah, obviously Nashville in a lot worse space. Wait. This was a great fight, but just hay majors going left and right. The Kings ended up winning this game three to nothing as Nashville has just been a kind of a joke this year. It's surprising based off the moves they made. But yeah, this game was just bonkers. Here they go again. And I don't know, it just, it made me feel good as a hockey fan to watch an entertaining shit show.
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Yeah. As opposed to last night.
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You know, some decent goaltending, some fun goals. But overall, as we just. I feel like we've talked a lot about Nashville this year. They're just a mess considering the moves they made. The Stam coast. Marcia. So Bruno was a Jack Adams finalist. Just what the hell's going on?
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Yeah, we'll get into Nashville a little bit later when we recap the week that was for the Panthers. Ethan, do you have any notes here?
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I was just going to say about Nashville, but I guess we'll get deeper into them later. It's. It is interesting to hear them saying, and you know, maybe we'll talk with Adan about this. That Barry Trot saying rebuild already this early in the season. And what do they rebuild with? Like, are they going to trade the guys that they just signed?
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Yes.
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I mean, that's crazy. Yeah, that's 2012 Miami Marlins type stuff. Like Ryan, it would be insane to see them trade a Stamkos retaining a million in salary.
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Oh, wow.
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You heard it here first.
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Telling you.
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All right, why don't you toss the Adnan here because we got like 20 seconds.
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No, I'm excited. We're going to talk to our boy Adnan Vert from prime hockey, see how it's been going up there in Canada so far. It's been a fun few weeks and I definitely want to get his take on some of the craziness happening in the league. So let's talk to Adnan.
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This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. All right, Joining us today is an he is the studio host for Prime Canada Monday Night Hockey and it's been a month already and it seems like he's having a good time. Huh? Ant man, what's going on? Do you have any stories about what's been happening in the studio for you, Roy?
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It's been fantastic, man. Honestly, one of the great parts of working on Prime Monday Night hockey has been the experience of going to different arenas. Now, of course, being from Toronto, it's always good to be back home and get to see my friends and family, et cetera. But you know, it was a great environment there. Good to see Matt Sundin. Obviously working with Mark Messi has been fantastic. Blake Bolden as well. First game was in Montreal. That's one of my favorite barns. The Bell center always is a great crowd. Fans are very knowledgeable. Penguins are playing there. Got C said. But I want to talk to you about week three because even as a proud Canadian, I'd never been to Winnipeg, Manitoba. Didn't know what to expect out of Newark, New Jersey. Exactly. New York, New Jersey, Two and a half hour flight to Minnesota. Minnesota, hour and a half to Winnipeg. Surprisingly, the hour and a half flight to Winnipeg nicer than the two and a half from Jersey. Minnesota, whatever. Just nicer plane, better food, better menus, etc. But we landed Winnipeg. I'm like, oh God, here we go. And one of the first signs is let's go Bombers, which a friend of mine said the Yankees are going to. It's the Blue Bombers, of course, the CFL team, right?
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Yeah.
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Now, I'll be honest, fellas, there's not a whole lot Winnipeg, okay, I got right the Hotel Radisson 155 a night. It's like a five minute walk from the arena. There's a Dollarama across the road, a couple of Canadian staples like Moxie's and other restaurants. But I'll tell you what, man, that arena, they're rocking and rolling. Only 15,000 at the Canalife center, but that crowd is into it. And that's the one loss the jets has suffered which is against the Maple Leafs. And further proof of the power of Leafland. I'm telling you, five minutes in, fellas, jets is yet to lose a game and you can hear the goal. Leafs go chance. So it's obviously very passionate fan base in Toronto willing to go to Manitoba for a game. But props to Winnipeg. I'm glad I got to see it. Was worried about the cold, but I'll be honest, it was October 25th and it was like 60 and sunny. So I guess I lucked out. It is not going to be nearly as balmy when I'm there in Winnipeg in February. But very cool to talk to Scott O'Neill, of course, the head coach. This is the second team ever, fellas. 13 wins in their first 14 games along with the Ottawa Senators vote.
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607.
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Obviously Kyle Connor has been tremendous along with Mark Scheifele. They have arguably the best third line in hockey. Nito. Nina Ryder just played his 900th game. He's great. And obviously Connor Helbach, two time Vesna winner. So very cool to get to Winnipeg.
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October, of course it's not going to.
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Be as cold as we were in Edmonton in June and it was lovely. So you know we're not going there in December.
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No, no, we are not. No, no, that was, that was pass.
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Well here in Adnan, talk about the travel. Just getting there seemed. Oh man, that sounds lovely. Just the nice little two chill flights.
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Brings back memories, don't it?
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Not really. Our travel day took like two days to get there. No, no, thank you.
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Not again.
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No.
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Unless it happened.
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To your point, David, I've got. I've never been to Edmonton. My first Edmonton flight is to see the beloved Florida Panthers Oilers December 16th, me and Mark Messier. So yeah, that's pretty north up there in Alberta. As you guys know, the happy hour.
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Specials at Joey's, check them out.
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Oh yeah.
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Okay, let's go.
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They got that lime slush. Oh my God. Best Jack and Coke I ever had in my life.
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Remember they got one in Aventura.
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They do, but it wasn't. No, it wasn't the same. I did go to the one in Aventura and it felt looked, but it just, it didn't taste. I wasn't like going crazy for the flavors that I went and maybe something in Edmonton, I don't know. They had that Alberta beef that was delicious.
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Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
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So I don't know. But talking about the show Adnan, I was curious. Just because you've done work like this before, you're professional, you've been around for a long time. Is there anything that surprised you about the Amazon prime broadcast that you love about it? That you weren't expecting.
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Well, I think one thing that's really cool, David, is, like, when you're in an arena, you are at the mercy of the fans. So, quite honestly, so many times I'm in the studio and it's a controlled environment, and it's just pointing to point B. It's very easy. It's Gretzky to Curry, and we get it done. Even college football, I was on the road. We're in a secluded environment there for espn, so it wasn't too abstract. But I'd say that second game, the Leafs were like, our studio setup is right where the fans are walking in Gateway 5 or Gate 6. So I wasn't quite expecting how loud it was. And, like, normally I'm always, you know, fishing with my earpiece. Make sure the volume's loud. When they announced Matt Sundin was coming up, and again, we got Mark Messi with us, right? This big deal. There's fans cheering. Sundino is like, oh, my God, I need to. I nearly blow it. An eardrum. Like, that crowd was really into it. So it's. It makes me further appreciate when I see Chris Thompson doing Amazon football Thursdays or I see any broadcasters working, Kevin Burkhart doing the World Series, like, people don't realize, David. Like, oh, guy, how easy is this? Ask God question. Go to the next question again. But if you can't hear, you're at the mercy of being out there by yourself. I read lips, fan. And for Sundee, yeah, it's all read lips. And by the way, it was one of the first times ever, David, I could say to a player, I could say that I found him to be statuesque because right over my eyeline was the statue of Matt Sundin outside a 6, 4 suite. Normally, you think you use that adjective with, you know, a supermodel, Al McPherson, but I got to call another man on national television statuesque in the case of Matt Sundeed, because it's six, four, Swede.
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You just made people of a certain age smile. Definitely.
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You mentioned Mark Messier. You have a story, don't you?
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Oh, so, Roy, here's the thing, you know, again, my Flyers fandom goes back to, what, 85, 87. So when. When I'm talking to him, I'm looking at a guy who made me cry when I was nine years old. And Game seven is a great series. If you guys haven't a chance to check it out yet, you'll love it. It's available right now on prime, not only in Canada, but here In America. And one of them is of course the Game seven Oilers Flyers. So I'm watching it and I'm like, I don't know why I'm watching this because this is so painful. Bringing back the memories. But it's cool seeing Messier and Gretzky and Lottie and my buddy Elliot Friedman. But from Philly's perspective, you see a lot of Ron Hextall and Dave Poulin and Hex Doll sit to this day. He's met. People have told him, hey, because of I became a hockey fan. The quality of hockey was so great. Hexall, as you guys know, memorably won the cons mind, even though they lost that series in seven. And Dave Poulin's talking about poolin goes like, why would I ever want to. People ask me, have you rewatched the game? I go, no, I lived it like it was a heartbreak. Why would I ever want to watch that game again? So anyways, I'm talking to Messi off air about a little bit and he's like, oh, that Game seven was awesome. And then I mentioned Hex Doll and I said, he goes, oh, Hex, he's really good in the documentary. He's really, you know, he goes, for a guy who was so fiery and such a pain out there, like so aggressive and hostile, you know, he was a really good interview. He explained their perspective. And I said yeah. And he kind of paused and he goes, not crazy about a guy from the losing team winning the consmyth. Another pause, he goes, but he was pretty effing good. Yeah, even Mark Messi all these years ago can appreciate that. And another thing about Moose, I'll mention this. We did the coast to coast show last night on prime, which was actually shot in Secaucus, New Jersey, which is where I do MLB Network and Angel Network work. So it's that studio. But the game is available on Prime. Anyways, they want us to pre tape the open. You guys know sometimes these guys get a little bit finicky. Okay, fine, no problem. We do it. And then they go, hey, let's do one more. And I'm telling you fellas, Messi is a nice guy. He's down to earth. He's very chill. But he got that glare in his eyes and goes, why? And I was like, oh my God. I was like, I. Then I just, I just looked in the eyes of a 26 year veteran who scored almost 700 goals as a six time Stanley cup champion. They go, well, let's just do one more. He's like person's always better. Like, let's just do one, do the second take. And it was fine. Kevin Weeks is such a legend. Such Pro is 5. But Moose looks at me, he's like, first one was better. And I'm like, whatever you say. Matt's like, if looks could kill with that glare. It's unbelievable.
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Yeah, it sounds like he was about to throw one of his famous elbows there.
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Oh, no. All right.
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And then you mentioned losing players winning the consmy which brings me to my Florida Panthers. And there's a guy in the Florida Panthers this year that's just dominating. His name is Sam Reinhardt. 57 goals last year.
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Welcome to the show.
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Ethan, why do. At what point do we stop saying, oh, this guy's bound for regression at some point and just say, this is a really good player that's going to score 40, 45 goals for.
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And at what point do we actually start calling him Samson?
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I love that go from Sam Reiner. Sam's exactly well, Ethan, listen, he's awesome. We were watching a lot of that game last at the Panthers. Of course they took care of business against the Predators win yet again. I've just been impressed. Florida again. Anytime you can be so good on the road, to me that's the mark of a great team. They go five and all, they take care of the stars. Couple those games in Finland and then last night, really all over that Predators team which looks old and slow and tired and take that Steven Stam coach who plays the Predators again. Plays, excuse me, plays the Panthers again. This time as a member of the Predators. But yeah, Reinhardt's awesome, man. There's no question about it. He's a dynamic player offensively, he brings so much to the table. I don't think there's any doubt he could be a 40, 50 goal player. As you said, Panthers look great right now. Mess was saying, he goes, you know, with these teams there is this daily cup hangover at some point. And I said, is that a cliche? He's like, no. He goes, it hits you around January, February, because you played so much hockey and you're playing at a high level. And he goes, of the 82 games, there's about 15 that are like really critical. Like, I'm not saying every game isn't critical because I know what you mean. Because there's the 15 games you. These are absolute, you know, measures and problems, etc. And this was not that game against the Predators, of course, but like that Panthers Oilers game will be so, you know, Panthers, Bruins, game in general feel that way because those the games you can tell whether or not they have it. But Reinhardt specifically has been amazing. Panthers are great right now, no question.
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You mentioned the Predators on Tuesday. Barry Troutz was on radio and he said, I'm trying to do some things right now. We will be limited a little bit because of contracts. If we don't get it going, then I'm going to have to start our rebuild plan. Since then the Predators lost to the Capitals and then it got smoked by the Panthers. Is it rebuild time?
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I think it is, right? And Kevin Lee's made a great point to me. He said, they're very right handed shot heavy. And I said, okay. He started going through the line because look at all these right handed shot, right handed shot right. I said, okay. He goes, when you're game planning against a team like this, like it becomes very easy because it's like you're only focusing on one part of the ice and it doesn't matter like what sport it is. If you're too one dimensional in one aspect, if you're an NBA team and you're too reliant on threes, if you're a baseball team and you too rely on home runs, if you're a hockey team, you have too many right handed shots. He goes, it becomes an issue. Secondly, they said both massive weeks. He said, that team out there, they look old and they look slow, they look tired and I like a little grit and I like a little sandpaper and that's critical to my team. But that can't be like the emblem of my team. Like I need to have talent. Ultimately, if you ask what I want, hard work or talent, obviously I take both, but I'll take the talent. I'll just take a lazy floater who's exceptionally skilled and somehow we're going to win this game. And I hope in game seven he learns to back check and we'll figure it out. The national, they seem thin on talent and they just seem old and slow and tired. There's a specific stat, fellows. They're 30th in odd man rushes.
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Oh.
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And I was like, if ever there was a stat, right. That speaks to that just sounds like you're old and slow and you're always up on your heels.
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Yeah, 30th.
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An odd man rushes. That's crazy for Barry Trotz's team.
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So they're bad in transition.
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Exactly. Like if you lose that pocket also in your interest, like they're in trouble like all of a Sudden, like, oh, God, three on two, twos on ones. Like, specifically, that number must just be outrageous. And I'm with you. That it feels like it's rebuilt time. Because I'm like, there's no one there thinking, okay, even if the most optimistic Predators fan, did you think they were going to get 10? I'm like, no, you probably thought playoff team, maybe a six or seven seed, Walker, et cetera. But if it's this bad right now, I think you got to just turn the page and move on.
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So one last thing I wanted to get into before we wrap it up is happening in D.C. alex Ochnus scored in five straight games. He's three goals behind Wayne Gretzky. Like, we were talking before the season, like, could it happen this year? And now I feel like we're saying, could it happen by the All Star break or not the All Star break.
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But the four nations, whatever.
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This is crazy. And I am loving every minute of it. I didn't think I'd love it as much as I am, but it's been so much fun to watch. Adnan.
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No, I'm with you, David. I think he's an incredible player. It's funny, growing up as a proud Canadian, there's always been that rivalry. Canada, Russia, et cetera. You think someone like me would say, no, I want Gretzky to have the record forever. But I'm like, I love Ovechka, man. I think he's been incredible for the sport. He's so charismatic, he's so dynamic. And you're absolutely right. Watching him last year, you said, oh, man, this is gonna be like Willie Mays of the Mets. Like, he's just gonna be sputtering towards the end. And will he break the record? Yeah, but it's only because he has a couple of years left on his deal and he's gonna be a 20 goal scorer who's just getting like garbage goals, Empty net goals, power play goals, like, easy ones. He's not gonna be a 40 goal guy. Now Ovetsky's on pace for 55 goals. Like, it's unbelievable. I was like, wow, like, he can hit 60 this year. Like, that's nuts. That's, that's, that's. That's Auston Matthews territory. And watching the Capitals this week, specifically, like that shot when he won times at the power play, like, it is absolutely a thing of beauty. If you and I, three of us, to write down just favorite hockey plays, hockey moments, signature moments. You come in Ovechkin from the Face off, circle one. Timer, it is awesome to watch. And as I said, he's been great for the game to think 900 goals. And again, talking to Kevin and Mark last time, they go, hey, you know what, dude? He's not sitting there saying to himself, okay, 30, 25, let me get to 895. He wants a thousand. Like, this is the way these guys are built. They're going to go 900. I broke the record. I'm going to get a thousand. Imagine a thousand goals intervention. Like, these guys are machines. There's no point slowing down. And the capital has been an incredible story. You talk about a team that looks like a legit cup contender, you don't think that energizes Alexander Vetskin even more? So it's amazing to think it's inevitably 900 goals. And again in today's game, fellas, it's so impressive. Again, I adore Gretzky, but that was a much more different style of hockey. Much more offensive. Far away in hockey. I'll get some people here living in Jersey, a lot of bossy fans and the islanders, et cetera. They'll say, Boss is still the greatest goal scorer ever. If you look at goals per game, I believe Mike Bossy, the late Mike Bossy, point 76.77. So, I mean, I suppose you could have an argument. Obviously, the back injuries killed him, but I think for all of us, Ovechkin's gonna be the greatest goal scorer of all time.
B
He's a blast to watch Mike Bossi bringing him up. That makes the gods happy. Prime Canada, Monday night hockey. And Amber, thank you for joining us.
A
Thank you so much. Fellas, before I go, Roy, I have to read you Kevin Weeks, because he's going to be in your stomping grounds next week. So I said, listen, Roy's not gonna let you off the hook here. Him and David want to have you on the podcast. Got you on the hockey show. So he said specifically he'll do it. But he said he wants to know if you're available on Monday night to take him out. I'm sure the same restaurant I have here. Oh, yes, he said specifically you need to go, Joe.
C
Stone crabs prime.
A
Italian prime. Italian, 9pm you're paying to go.
D
Bring the medal. Our card.
B
Yeah, that's going to get expensed, I'll tell you that. Get that garlic bread bowl.
A
He's happy to do the hockey show podcast, but he wants to be at that place, Italian Prime. Give a little bacon, a little bit of bread bowl, he'll be good to go.
B
Oh yeah. That's a deal. We will be there.
A
Nice. Thanks, Roy. Thanks, David. Talk to boys.
D
Hi brother. Be well. Thanks.
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The Frog here live from Meadowlock Media Studios here in Miami. Stuttgarts. The Germans are advancing on France in World War II. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stuttgarts. All right, before we get into the Panthers recap for the week, I want to show a video of a hit that happened last night in the Kings Canucks game. Tana Jano had a match penalty for a hit that he laid on Brock Besser. It looked like. It looked like the point of impact was the chest, but his shoulder ended up hitting Besser's head. He received a match penalty and will have an automatic hearing from the league.
D
In person.
B
In person.
D
In person.
B
Unless. Yeah, but he's going to have an in person hearing from the league. Most likely he's going to get suspended. But again, like, he had his arm tucked. The point of impact to me looked like it was going to be the chest and the shoulder hit his head. Dave, what do you think about this hit? Do you think he deserves a lengthy suspension on this?
D
Looks like there's going to be a suspension. I mean, you have. It's not just the hit itself.
B
It was blindsided.
D
It was a blindside hit. The puck was nowhere to be found. He took a couple of strides, lined him up. Genome knew what he was doing. It could have been avoided and he could have not raised up. That's what always gets me is when you see them raise up to make that forcibly hit. So, yeah, I would be surprised if that doesn't end in a suspension. I could be wrong. I thought that I had heard that it was an in person hearing, but right now all I see that it's. There is a hearing.
B
Could be on zoom.
D
Yeah, could be on zoom.
B
Ethan, do you feel the same way?
C
It's pretty ugly, Roy. I mean, it's up right up to the chin. It looks Truba esque, I would say. And anytime it looks troubasque.
B
Yeah, it's. Well, I mean, with Truba, you see him launch. It was a little.
C
There's a bit of a difference between some Truba hits. But yeah, I definitely think that. I mean, just the way everything's headed. And this is an ugly play. Like it's. It looks like he takes it right on the chin.
D
This is the kind of thing that they're trying to get out of hockey. Like you don't want to get the big Hits and all that out of the game. You want to get the ones that can concuss guys out of the game.
B
But as you said, it was interference.
A
Yeah.
D
Either way it was a penalty. The puck wasn't there, the hit was illegal. Whether or not wherever you hit him, it's just the severity of the hit itself is how you take that to the next level. Like yes, where he first touched him, it appeared his chest, but the motion, it was chest chin. I think that's a suspendable offense.
B
Okay, let's give out a number here. Do you say three?
D
I think that's the over under and I'd probably take the under. I'm thinking this is like a two game suspension.
B
Two game suspension.
C
I'd agree.
B
All right, two game suspension.
D
So I guess maybe the over under would be like one and a half.
B
And I wish that we can get this on draftkings. Man, we can bet on this thing. I would probably win a lot of money. All right, let's go to the Panthers recap here. On Friday they beat the Stars 6 to 4. These are the two games that were in Finland. The Finland, the Finland games here. And they, I mean they really trounced, they really trounced the Stars in both games, really. Let's start with the first one. And Alexander Barkov scored in front of his hometown brethren, his family. So that was, that was very nice. Why don't you go over what happened in game one?
D
Game one, it was kind of a Panthers blitz early on. They jumped out to the 2 nothing lead. Evan Rodriguez scored what, like 20 seconds into the game. Sasha Barkov scored that nice goal to get everybody's attention and then Dallas fought back a little bit. It felt like, it felt like not an exhibition game, but it felt like an international game. It felt like a one off type game because both Florida and Dallas are much more of a tight playoff style of hockey type of teams. And this felt like a rush game. This felt like the President's trophy season for the Panthers. A game from that year where it was rushes back and forth, a lot of scoring chances both ways. But still Florida, they've created this monster in South Florida that they can beat you in a lot of different ways. And in this game it was Florida kind of dominating for the most part. They were up 6 to 2 before Dallas got a couple late goals on Bob, who really wasn't that tested in the second half of the game as much as he was in the first half. But just overall it's a pretty resounding win for the Panthers and a nice start to their global series visit.
C
Two things from what you said there, David. First of all, I don't want to discredit just what the Panthers did to the stars because it wasn't, you know, one off in, in an international play. Right. Like this was a big matchup. I mean, this is the best team in the east against, well, Winnipeg right now is the best team in the West, I guess. But two of the Stanley cup favorites, right? Many people would say, and it's an early season test to see how do you match up with one of the best teams in the league. And the Panthers whoop their ass. And I know they got the two goals late. Which leads me to the second thing I wanted to mention, which is that Fuentes and I have been having discussions about. It concerns him how we have to score 4, 5, 6 sometimes because we're giving up too late. A lot of these games are ending up little higher scoring games. Look, I'm not worried about Bobrovsky come playoff time. I know that come the playoffs he'll lock in. But are you. Do you guys have a little bit of concern about some defensive issues with the Panthers? Maybe because you're starting to see some higher scoring games than you normally would? Or is that something you just never worry about with the.
D
Well, the goals that you're talking about, these late game goals, these situational things that the Panthers where they're up big and then they give up a couple goals late. If these are tight games, you're having different personnel on the ice, you're playing matchups you're doing, you're approaching it differently. You're not like last night, you're not putting your fourth line guys out in the power play.
B
No, sure not.
D
You know what I mean?
C
Those fourth line guys were out for like. I didn't see Kachuk for the last like 10 minutes of the game.
D
The luxury of being a good team is that you can play this style and you're not. You don't have to. You can kind of shield minutes. You don't have to have Barkov killing every single penalty. So, no, I'm not concerned because when the Panthers get locked in, they look great. So for now, I'm fine with the way they're playing. Cool.
C
I'm going to show that to Fuentes.
B
I'm not. I'm not concerned because if you're scoring four goals a game, you're doing something right. Pretty much like.
D
Well, the Panthers have been scoring like hotcakes lately, too.
B
Yeah.
D
Like their average don't make me hungry. Five goals a game over this. I'm trying to distract you from the food. Five goals a game of their six game winning streak. They're averaging. That's. That's pretty good.
B
On Saturday they played again. They beat them again. Four, two.
A
They did.
B
And that was covered a little bit tighter.
D
Covered both games.
B
Yeah, they covered both games. That was a little bit tighter. And in the end, of the seven Finnish players of from both teams, four from Florida, three from Dallas combined from 11 points in the series, Alexander Barkov had four, Nico Mika and Essa Lindell from Dallas, they each had two. Anton Lindell, E2 Lusterinan and Mira Heskinen from the Stars, they each had one. So 11 points from the Fins. The Fins showed up in this season series. I can say season series because they're done.
D
What I liked about the second game, when you talk about comparing the two games is obviously it was a much tighter game. Florida held Dallas to their lowest shot output in that third period of that last game. Of all the six periods that they played, that was the best offensive period that Florida played. And it was a one goal. It was tied actually going into the third. AJ Greer got the game winning goal was about two and a half minutes into the third as I looked at the stat sheet here. But that was your more traditional type of Panther game and they took a Dallas team that is very motivated and very talented and they shut them down pretty well in that third period. So I really liked overall on the whole, both of those games in Finland. It would have been cool if we could have seen them in person.
C
Yeah, I think one of the most encouraging signs from the Panthers so far is what they're doing in these third periods. Because we touched on it earlier with Adnan about the championship hangover. We haven't really seen one from the Panthers yet. I'm a little concerned that they're kind of peaking a little early and maybe they'll start to run in. They're going to run into a rut at some point. It happens over the course of every NHL season.
B
It should have happened already, but it should have injured.
C
Exactly. It should have happened already. And to see them come out with the injuries to Barkov and Kachuk, who are so important late in those games. Right. And after playing such a grueling playoff run and a short off season, with a short off season, the off season before. Right. To see them come out and to start the year and just still be the same Florida Panthers in the third period and just shut games down I mean, they shut that game down last night. You know, there have been multiple games this year, I think against the Rangers, they just turned the game came off in the third period completely. Like it's what they do, it's what they're known for. And despite the, you know, the thought that oh, they would have a championship hangover, they're doing it right out of the gates better than they have in years.
B
Yeah, shut down city in the third period. Just like last year.
D
Just like last year. What I like about this team, to your point of the lack of a hangover or what Adnan had said that some, some of these teams, they experienced the hangover in December, January, February. I want to see when the adversity strikes this team because what we've learned about this Panthers team over the last two plus years under Paul Maurice is that they thrive under adversity. So when things happen to them, they overcome it every time. The only time that they didn't was when they ran out of games to play against Edmonton or against Vegas. When everybody got hurt, they just ran out of time. So whenever the next bump in the road approaches, like, I have confidence that this team is going to be able to overcome that just because that's all they do. They're built for it. They're built for the tough terrain. So yeah, bring it on.
C
They already did it this year. Sorry, Roy, just one more thing. They already did it this year. You know, again with, without barking Chucky. Like we were worried that Barky would be out for a while and you know, playing without your two best players to start the year for, you know, fair amount stretch of games. Like they were great in those stretches of games and more than stayed afloat like we were hoping for them too early in the season. So yeah, I think you're right, David. They are built for anything that comes their way.
B
Last night the Panthers defeated the Predators 6 to 2. Conor Verhege had two goals and assists. Alexander Barkov had three assists. He has 11 points in eight games. Is that good? I mean, what the hell, that's crazy. But the Predators in last night's game, and we talked about this earlier, did not play. They had no fight until just about the end of the second period when they finally got themselves into a scrum in a game that they got thoroughly outmatched.
D
They had lost the night before in D.C. so it wasn't terribly surprised. But again, is that really any use? Because good teams find ways to. As we, you know, we're just talking about good teams find ways to get things done. Yeah, but I mean, look, Florida was up two nothing five minutes into the game.
B
Yeah.
D
If there was any, like, internal juice that Nashville brought into that, Florida pulled it out of them really quick.
B
Absolutely. I mean, it was a. Just a disastrous game for the Predators. And maybe Andrew Burnett's on the hot seat.
D
Well, I. I don't know. Right. Because didn't Barry Trotz answer a question about that earlier this week that somebody asked him if Andrew Burnett would be on the hot seat? And. And despite all the issues that they're having in Nashville, it sounds like Bruno is going to be okay for now. That the problems that at least Barry Trotz is seeing in that team aren't necessarily due to a.
B
It's not coaching.
D
Yeah. It's not coming from behind the bench. We've talked about it a lot, but they built like I thought Nashville was going to be good. They put a lot of effort into building that team up during the off season. And to see them fall flat in their face like this, it's still very early and they could still turn it around. It wouldn't be surprising. I mean, Edmonton wasn't in a very much better situation at this point last year. Now, granted, Nashville doesn't have Connor McDavid, but they do have Phil Forsberg, Steven Stamkos, Jonathan Marcheseau, UC Soros, Roman Yossi, Brady Shea. They've got a very, very talented team. Maybe they're top heavy, but still they're better than what they've shown.
B
They got good goaltending.
D
Yeah. Well, they got a good starting goaltender.
B
Yeah. Oh, ok. Yeah, they got a good start and started goaltender, but yeah, that just. That was a poor showing for a team that should be better.
D
Definitely.
B
And if they don't get it right, it's over for them.
C
They're in trouble.
A
Roy.
C
Like, you can. You can't make the playoffs in the first month and a half of the season. Right. But you can lose, can definitely miss the playoffs. And right now, like Nashville is trending towards definitely missing the playoffs. I was reading about them the other day and basically what they were, you know, what they were saying is that. That their metrics, they're shooting the puck like their. Their shooting percentage is super low. Like it will positively regress at some point, but with the way their other metrics are, that's only going to cause their offense to regress to like league average. It's not like all of a sudden the pucks are going to start going in and you're going to have this high flying Offense that's in the top 10 in the league, like they're going to be a league average office offense based off chance creation. Things they do at five on five, things they're doing on the power play. Like, like Sam coast will get rolling on the power play. He scored a power play goal last night. Which like did you all have, did you guys both have flashbacks watching that, seeing Sam coast from his office on the power play against the Panthers. But you know, I just think that this it, it might just not be a good team. Like they spent a bunch in free agency, but it happens in every sport where you go big in free agency and it doesn't always pay off. You know, it so much about drafting, building a core, you know, trading for your core the way the Panthers have. Like it might just be that they went too big in free agency and they're gonna have to blow this up. And if they blow this up, like, you know, Marceau Stamcos, like I don't know if anybody's gonna be safe except probably Forsberg and Soros. Right. Essentially after Sorrow signed that extension, massive deal.
B
So rally.
D
It'd be interesting what kind of rebuild they're going to do with some of the contracts they have. But. But no.
C
Can we talk about Sam Reinhardt please?
B
Okay. We don't have time to get into.
D
He's very good.
B
How good Sam Reinhardt season has been. All I can say right now is that the Panthers played the Flyers tomorrow. The Flyers are the second worst team in the Eastern Conference and they all did last in the metro. And I don't want to put. I want to brush them to the side like I did the first game versus Buffalo because I learned that lesson. But I mean that should be a win.
D
Oh, just like the game against Nashville on Thursday should have been a win. Like if Florida shows up and does what they should do, then they should beat this Flyers team. That's right. Now they don't, they don't have anything in the goaltending department.
B
No.
D
They just scratched their high end rookie. It's been a rough year and you want to talk about hot seat, I would think Torts is probably on the hot seat.
B
Yeah.
C
I'm much more interested in the New Jersey games coming up this week because the, the Devils are off to a great start this year. Hot pick for a lot of people, for a deep run, maybe even a Stanley cup.
B
And that could be a conference championship.
C
That's two. Yeah, definitely.
D
That's a good goaltending in Jersey.
C
Yeah.
D
Mark Struman, Allen those two guys have been.
C
And Jack Hughes looks like he's about to get rolling. He made a great play last night. But two games at home for the Panthers against the Devils, that is going to be a big, that's a big early season measuring stick for the Panthers and the Devils to see how they match up against each other.
B
Right? Thank you, Ethan. Thank you, Gino, and thank you, Danny. Thank you, David, and thank me.
D
Thank you, Roy.
B
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Podcast Summary: "The Hockey Show: Prime Italian"
Podcast Information:
The episode begins with a series of advertisements promoting products such as Zinn nicotine pouches, Home Depot's Black Friday deals, Omaha Steaks, SimpliSafe home security, and DraftKings Sportsbook. These segments feature hosts Roy Bellamy, David Dwork, Ethan Podowski, and Dan Le Batard, each delivering promotional content with scripted dialogues.
At [01:15], Roy Bellamy officially welcomes listeners to "The Hockey Show," introducing co-hosts David Dwork and Ethan Podowski. He humorously notes the absence of Rosie Rose, who is presumably listening remotely.
The hosts dive into their "Hot Takes" segment, starting with Roy Bellamy expressing frustration over Sidney Crosby becoming the NHL all-time leader in face-off wins, a statistic he deems insignificant to the sport's fans. Roy states:
"What the hell are we doing here? Nobody who gives a crap about this."
[03:21] Roy also criticizes Crosby for leading in both face-off wins and losses, suggesting he’s a "volume shooter" rather than a technically superior player.
David Dwork follows with his hot take at [05:24], predicting that Jim Montgomery will be the first coach fired in the current season due to the Florida Panthers' underperformance and internal conflicts.
"There has never been a more fired coach in the history of sports."
Winners:
Tai Domi (Roy Bellamy): Praises Domi for embarrassing Tom Brady by having him perform on a skate sled, showcasing toughness and physicality.
"Tai Domi managed to pull off something that very rarely happens. Embarrass Tom Brady."
Jared Spurgeon (Ethan Podowski): Commends Spurgeon for a smart play in an overtime game between Toronto and Minnesota, securing a game-winning goal.
"That was one of the smartest hockey plays I've seen in a while."
Losers:
Jalen Chatfield (Roy Bellamy): Criticizes Chatfield for an embarrassing pregame fall into the boards during the Florida Panthers game.
"That's embarrassing."
Nashville Predators (Ethan Podowski): Labels the team as a "shit show," citing poor performance and lack of competitiveness in recent games.
"This game was just bonkers. Here they go again."
Antn Burke joins the show as a guest, sharing his experiences working with Prime Canada’s Monday Night Hockey. Highlights from his interview include:
Travel Experiences: Antn recounts his travels to various arenas, including a memorable trip to Winnipeg where he praises the passionate local fanbase despite unfamiliarity with the city.
"Watch, fellas, jets is yet to lose a game and you can have the goal. Leafs go chance."
Studio Challenges: Discusses the challenges of broadcasting live events amid loud environments and interacting with hockey legends like Mark Messier.
"Energy is unbelievable."
Game Insights: Shares insights on recent games, particularly highlighting the Florida Panthers' strong performance.
The hosts provide an in-depth analysis of the Florida Panthers' recent performances, focusing on their victories against the Dallas Stars in Finland.
Game One Highlights (33:35): The Panthers secured a 6-4 win, dominating early with goals from Evan Rodriguez and Alexander Barkov. Despite a late surge from Dallas, the Panthers maintained control, showcasing their offensive prowess.
"Florida even got bigger and they're much more of a tight playoff style of hockey team."
Defensive Strength: Despite scoring high, the Panthers faced criticism for allowing late goals. However, hosts like Ethan Podowski argue that the team's overall performance remains solid, emphasizing their ability to maintain strong third-period defenses.
"When the Panthers get locked in, they look great."
Player Spotlight - Sam Reinhardt: David Dwork lauds Reinhardt's exceptional performance, questioning when the team will stop anticipating regression and recognize Reinhardt's consistent goal-scoring potential.
"He's a dynamic player offensively. He brings so much to the table."
Team Resilience: Discussions highlight the Panthers' ability to thrive under adversity, maintaining form despite injuries to key players like Barkov and Kachuk.
"They're built for adversity. So when things happen to them, they overcome it every time."
Sidney Crosby's Records: The conversation circles back to Sidney Crosby, debating his standing in face-off statistics and comparing him to legends like Mike Bossy. Dan Le Batard emphasizes Crosby's charisma and impact on the game despite criticisms.
"I think for all of us, Ovechkin's gonna be the greatest goal scorer of all time. He's a blast to watch."
Alex Ovechkin's Pursuit of Gretzky's Record: Ethan Podowski and Dan Le Batard express admiration for Ovechkin's goal-scoring streak, speculating on his potential to surpass Wayne Gretzky's record.
"He's on pace for 55 goals. Like, it's unbelievable... That's Auston Matthews territory."
The episode wraps up with humorous banter about upcoming interviews and plans to dine at Italian Prime with guest Kevin Weeks. Hosts also discuss recent NHL incidents, such as a controversial hit by Tana Jano on Brock Besser, predicting a suspension.
“I think that's a suspendable offense.”
Final Discussions:
Nashville Predators' Struggles: Hosts analyze the Predators' disappointing start, attributing it to poor puck management and low shooting percentages.
"30th in odd man rushes. That's crazy right now for Barry Trots his team."
Upcoming Matches: Anticipation builds for the Florida Panthers' games against teams like the New Jersey Devils, noting the importance of these matchups in gauging the Panthers' early-season strength.
"Two games at home for the Panthers against the Devils, that is going to be a big early season measuring stick."
Closing Remarks: Roy Bellamy thanks the guests and co-hosts, followed by light-hearted conversations about food and upcoming plans. The hosts sign off with holiday greetings, transitioning into final advertisements promoting products like Miller Lite.
Notable Quotes:
Roy Bellamy on Crosby's Face-off Record ([03:21]):
"What the hell are we doing here? Nobody who cares about this."
David Dwork on Jim Montgomery's Potential Firing ([05:24]):
"There has never been a more fired coach in the history of sports."
Ethan Podowski on Jared Spurgeon's Smart Play ([08:52]):
"That was one of the smartest hockey plays I've seen in a while."
Dan Le Batard on Sidney Crosby and Ovechkin ([25:11]):
"I think for all of us, Ovechkin's gonna be the greatest goal scorer of all time. He's a blast to watch."
This comprehensive summary encapsulates the key discussions, insights, and humorous exchanges from "The Hockey Show: Prime Italian," providing listeners with a detailed overview of the episode's content on hockey analysis, player performances, team strategies, and upcoming events.