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Dan
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Roy
Welcome to the hockey show, Roy, Dave, Rose, Ethan, let's start with our snapshots. Hot takes. Go ahead, Dave.
Dave
Okay. Welcome to the show, everybody.
Roy
Hey, man, I don't have time for this. Let's go.
Fatou
Welcome to the show, everybody. Wow. I'm Rose. Thank you.
Dave
Yeah.
Roy
I said your name. And I said your name. Didn't I say your name? I said your name.
Dave
You did say everybody's name, Roy.
Roy
Yeah, I did.
Dave
Okay. All right. My hot take. It's not a hot take, actually, it's a hot take. It's a hot mic. Oh, it's not a cold take. It's a hot mic. Former Sabers. I don't say star. Former well known player. Rob Ray. Tough guy, fighter, long time Buffalo Saber. Yeah, that's the word I was. He works between the benches on the Sabres broadcast and he had his mic open and got hit by the puck.
G
Puckers dropped and it's for now. This is the greatest F bomb of all time.
Dave
Oh, my God.
G
The greatest F bomb of all time.
Dave
Dude takes a puck in the eye. Trainers are checking on him. The funny thing is the next game. Where is he broadcasting from? The last row in the upper deck of the arena.
Roy
You got to stay safe, man.
Dave
Wouldn't you?
Roy
I would. I would be throwing out F bombs too.
Dave
Does this get into the old school discussion that we've had though of guys, the old school guys not wearing visors? Because if he would have had a visor on.
Roy
Yeah.
Dave
We wouldn't be having this.
G
How do they not put these guys behind a thing of glass? Like, first of all, how does this not happen more often? I know they get pucked sometimes.
Dave
The whole point of them being there is they want to hear what's happening on the ice. Like if you can't hear, then what's the, you know.
G
I don't know. All I know is this is the greatest F bomb.
Dave
I think I love heard and the way he's perfect.
Roy
Yeah, that's going to make Rose.
Dave
If you have like, if you're not watching this on YouTube or if you want to just Google Rob Ray, find a picture of him post puck to the face. Thank you.
Roy
Go ahead and play it again.
Dave
Yeah, one more time.
Roy
Yeah, one more time.
Dan
Has dropped.
G
And it's for now here in the opening period.
Dave
And the razor just that that sounds like he's taking like a violent and he can't get like that. That was like, ah, like, you know, like con firming.
Roy
All right, let's go.
Dave
Sorry for all the editing. Roses.
Roy
I'm saying though, man, she's got roses over there. Like. Ah.
Rose
Shut up. Guys.
Roy
Not.
Dave
You did it again.
Roy
What are you doing?
Fatou
You know what? You're gonna edit this video. I'm gonna give it to you and this is gonna be your first.
G
I'm gonna have work to do too, guys, because I have to.
Roy
Please. Okay, let's go to my hot take. New York Islanders. You reap what you sow. You know why you reap what you sow? Because you brought back Anthony D'Angelo back into this league. I mean, I mean, seriously, like they should be embarrassed and they got embarrassed, you know why? Because he lost five to one to the Rangers and allowed this goal to met freaking Rimpy.
G
Oh, you can't do that.
Roy
What are we doing?
G
You can't do that. You can't allow a goal to Matt Rempe.
Dave
I feel so bad for Ilya Sorotin. He's having such a rough year.
Roy
Yeah, yeah.
G
The Islanders in general are having a rough year.
Roy
Scott Perunovich and Ryan Pilak did not escape this game without a bad set line respectively. Minus 4.
Fatou
Both of them put Matt Barcelon.
Dave
Yeah, or Matt Barzell. I mean, all this bad juju that the Islanders have brought upon themselves.
Roy
Yeah, it's been bad. In fact, they've lost five in the last six. So good for them.
Dave
Good for them in New York right now.
Roy
Bad, bad hockey and that. Well, on that side of the island. Yeah.
Dave
Devils are okay.
G
Wait, I have a hot take.
Roy
The, the, the. Yeah, the Rangers. The Rangers are actually doing better. Ethan, you have a hot take.
G
I do have a hot take. I went to watch the Stanley cup champion Florida Panthers last night.
Roy
This is back to back weeks. By the way, I ignored your hot.
G
Takes take on the team they knocked out in the Stanley cup final. The Edmonton Oilers. And the Edmonton Oilers are 3, 6 and 1 in their last 10. They've lost five in a RO. I got a hot take place. They're going nowhere this year.
Roy
You realize that. You realize how hard it was for them to scratch in the and claw their way back up the division because they were.
G
Yeah, no, they were. They had a rough year. It rough start to the year and you kind of knew, okay, this isn't who Edmonton is. They're a lot better than this. They'll get hot. But all of a sudden. And listen, there's ups and downs for every team. They've played a lot of hockey. McDavid looks t. Everybody that's come back from the Four nations looks exhausted. I think Dylan Larkin got in trouble with Todd McClellan, the head coach of the Detroit Red Wings yesterday. Had some knobloch, had some comments after last night's game. I just don't think this team is going anywhere. I think there are too many good teams in the West. Dallas, Winnipeg, Colorado is still really dangerous in my eyes. Even without ranting. I the. The way what I saw from them last night. If you take McDavid out of the game, which the Panthers kind of did, they're relying on a lot of Brent Kulak, Brett Kulaks and Arvidsons and Skinners and Hyman's, you know, well, Hyman's a great player, but I'm just talking about, you know, it all of a sudden, players. And for what it's worth, right, these guys killed the Panthers in the Stanley Cup Final last year. Right.
Dave
Then they got rid of Warren Fogle.
Roy
Yeah.
G
Fogel's gone. Holloway's gone. Who's the other? Broberg is gone. You know, went to St. Louis. McLeod is gone. So it's like they lost a lot of these guys. Look, they can always make a big move at the deadline and make a big play and get back into this thing, but I just don't see them as a real threat to win the Stanley cup right now.
Roy
They haven't even had a band, McCain, for a year and a half.
Dave
You know who's loving this? The narrative that Ethan just set up? The Los Angeles Kings.
Roy
Yeah.
G
Because they might actually have a chance in the first round.
Dave
They might get out of the first round now. Because right now, if the playoffs started today, it's Kings, Oilers again.
Roy
Yeah.
Fatou
We should tell McDavid, hey, just take the Canada win because you're not going to sell.
Roy
Yeah, you're right.
Dave
Some shade for Nick. Overrated.
Roy
This is something. This is a learning situation for all the GMs in the national Hockey League as far as how to handle players when it comes to stuff like Olympics and Four nations and World cup of Hockey and how to handle their injuries and how to handle what to do with them coming back from these tournaments. Because, as Ethan said, they look exhausted.
Dave
Yeah. Look, maybe you got to build in a few days of rest that neither of the played yet.
G
Yeah, I was very surprised. Sorry, David. To see how many guys, like some. My buddies asked me in a group chat, like, how many guys do you think sit out the first game back from the four nations between us and Canada? I said 44 or 46 or however many guys were on those rosters. Like, I legitimately thought everybody would get a rest day. You know, there would be a select few. But the goalies to see, right? To see how many guys came back. Reinhardt and Bennett were right back in the lineup. Crosby, dealing with an injury, was right back in the lineup. Like, I would have given these guys a couple days to kind of get back, you know, take a vacation. Hell, go to go to Cabo for all I care. Like, sorry, but you know what I'm saying? Like, I just think that.
Dave
Settle down there, Robbery.
Roy
I just think that he's scrappy.
G
You made me lose my train of thought now. I. I just think these guys could have benefited. I Think these guys could have benefited from a couple days of rest to really get them back.
Dave
Set that precedent, though. I mean, if that's like. And I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but do you want to say, okay, we're going to do this amazing tournament where everybody's going to go balls to the walls, they're going to go crazy. That's how we want it. But then we're going to give them, you know, a game or two.
G
What's one or two games in February?
Dave
Realistically, Everybody who's involved with the NHL that's not involved in the Four nations, all the GMs of everybody that didn't, they're going to be like, what the bleep?
G
Yeah.
Dave
Because now my NHL, you're not going to please everybody with this. So I think you can't make it a precedent. But if guys didn't just, you know, quietly take a game or two to get their stuff together, that's okay.
Roy
And what's. Yeah. With the injuries, because Vegas, Florida and Boston has to do with that now.
Dave
Yeah. We're not even talking about Martinez, the first casualty.
Roy
Yeah. You're complaining about the. Okay.
Fatou
Yes. We're bleeping everything. Good luck with it.
Dave
Oh, that's a bad one.
Roy
You bleep that.
G
That's a very bad saying.
Dave
Yeah, I know how to say the F word in French. Thank you, Shorzy.
Roy
We have. We have more that we have to do. So let's move on to the win of the week.
Dave
Dave? My win of the week comes from St. Louis. Ryan Suter played his 1500th NHL game the other night, and the Blues brought his four kids into the locker room to read the pregame lineups. And that, in and of itself, was amazingly cute and awesome. But if we can play it. His youngest son, when he gets to his father's name, it just melted my heart.
Roy
Okay, suits. You got 1500 games. We're celebrating that today. Okay, starting lineup. We got suits. As four kids coming out. Introduce.
Dave
That's not his kids. My dad starting.
Roy
Look at him.
Dave
Oh, I love the little guy in the suit, looking dapper as hell. I love it.
Roy
That's too bad. Benton's in the net.
Fatou
Neighbors Thomas, Davido and dad.
Roy
That's very nice. He even got the pronunciations correct. That's very good.
Dave
And dad.
Roy
And dad. Dad comes over and gives the big hug.
G
That's awesome.
Dave
That doesn't make your heart melt.
Roy
Yeah, it does. Especially considering my win of the week. Because last week, Saturday at the Baptist Iceplex, which Houses the Panthers practice this. Claire had try hockey for free. She had a session there, and it was dedicated to the girls. And we have some pictures in a video here. I signed her up for the session, and she was scared. You know, she skated maybe twice in her life, right? And she's watched a lot of hockey, a lot of hockey with dad. And before she came out, she said to me, I don't skate as fast. Maybe I'm gonna do bad. I said, hey, listen, it's not about you going out there and skating fast as she goes out there and tiptoes on video, if you can see it on YouTube, it's about trying. And she went out there and she tried. And me and Anit, my wife, we led her out to the edge of the ice and we put her out there, and she did very well. She only fell twice, which was definitely the under because I had to fall a lot more. But she only fell twice, and she did very well. She had zip on her passes and shots and big ups to the trainers out there. They really did well with her on. On the ice. I was definitely a proud dad. And that's so cool. As of you. As are you. Because Tyler is playing hockey.
Dave
Yeah, Tyler was on the. The other ice when Claire was on that ice. So it was. It's pretty cool that our kids were out there. I just. I had to look it up on my phone because I remember as she was on the ice dating a text from you, and all he said was, dude, I think she might be good.
Roy
Yeah. Yeah. And as you can tell from the video, like, she's staying up. Right.
Dave
First time.
G
Who's a better skater, Roy, you or Claire?
Roy
Well, it's me because I can actually. I can actually push Claire.
Fatou
I have. I have a video. We can put them side by side.
Roy
Yeah, side by side.
Fatou
Yeah.
Roy
Yeah. Get that produced next week.
G
Do that in post.
Dave
Playing hockey now?
Roy
No, no, our kids are playing.
Dave
Kids are playing hockey. Like, God, we're old.
Roy
Yeah, we are. We are. Ethan, it'll happen to you, too.
G
Your kids are gonna slow your roll.
Roy
Slow your roll.
G
Slow down.
Roy
You're getting 02, man.
Dave
Are there any. Any wins of the week from that side?
Fatou
For my win of the week, I have our girl, Ariana Grande, fangirling the Panther. So that's a win, win, win, win, win, win. Let's hear it.
Dan
This little Selenite wand for protection as well. This was also in Glinda's dressing room. I brought it to the Panthers game in Florida when I went to visit My family. And we won. And I think it was because of this.
Roy
Go Panthers. Now, that Panthers game was in the Stanley Cup Final. Let's not. I don't beat around that bushes.
Fatou
Go, Wicked. Yes. Ariana. Let's do this. And we're gonna. We're gonna. You know what? We should have Ariana in this. In this podcast. Arianna, come, Rose.
Dave
What's significant about a Selenite wand? Because I actually had to look up how to spell it. I. I didn't. I had no idea what that was.
Fatou
A cellulite wand.
Dave
What your girl was just showing. She doesn't even know what she's talking about in the video.
Fatou
Like, the thing is that we don't care what the. The one does, and it was in Glinda's dressing room, and that says a lot because it was in the movie, and it was part of the movie more than we were, which I wish I was part of the movie. And then she took it to the Panthers game, and they won. So it's something that we should keep getting to the Panthers game.
Roy
It's a lucky charm.
Fatou
What the hell? That's. That's a win, win, win, win, win.
Roy
Do you have a lucky charm?
Fatou
No, I don't. I don't believe in that.
Roy
You don't believe in. Okay. You don't believe in charms. Fails of the week, Dave.
Dave
All right, My fail of the week, It's a referee. Justin Kia was nailed right in the bingo button the other night. Bingo button at the end of the Vancouver, Utah game. I almost. Utah doesn't have a team name, but not yet. Alex Turfoot spins around, tries to clear the zone. The poor referee's putting his hands up to protect his face. Because obviously that's the move, right? You got to protect your face if a puck's coming at you and that. His nether regions completely unguarded, and you can hear the bells going off.
G
I was watching this game live, and I kind of missed what happened right away, but I saw, like, the reaction to it, and I was watching it with my dad, and I could tell based on the faces he was making, the places he was holding. I said to my dad, I'm like, oh, he's got the stomachache right now. But, like, I know what's going on right here.
Dave
Like, there's nothing the trainer can do, right? The trainer comes out there, oh, what happened? Where's it hurt? Just. Just don't worry about. Just give me some space. Don't touch it.
G
Let me breathe it out.
Dan
Just.
Dave
Just relax. Like, he's he had the bottom lips sticking out like Bill Cower. Like, he was so in pain and embarrassed.
G
And you could see him trying to breathe it out. Right?
Dave
Just like these guys know that feeling. That's like the worst. Stomach ache, sharp pain. It's just.
Roy
So anyway, yeah, I think about having kids there, Ethan.
G
Slow.
Dave
What's this?
G
What's all this kids talk, right?
Roy
I'm 26 and single.
G
Jeez.
Roy
Christ. I mean, damn.
Dave
All right.
Roy
My family of the week is an anniversary of probably the worst night in Mike McDonald's career 31 years ago. It was Rangers versus Stars, and Mike McDonald was elbowed in the head by Mark Messier.
Dave
God.
Roy
Yeah, that was bad.
Dave
So different back then, man.
Roy
Yeah, I don't think.
G
Look at the position Madonna's in those skates.
Roy
Look at those throne. He was basically unconscious from the elbow and then fell to the ice.
Dave
It's like, what happened?
Roy
His head hit the ice. There's going to be end up being a replay here.
Fatou
Yeah, there's a replay. I almost fainted editing that.
Roy
Yeah, there was a streak of blood going across the ice as he slid towards the boards. That's.
Fatou
Yeah, no, that's nasty.
Roy
Yeah, that's elbow to the head now is probably how many games if that happened today?
Dave
I mean. 10. 10 games easy.
Roy
10 games if. If that. At least 10 games. Now, this is the fail right here because Mike Madonna was on a gurney trying to. They were trying to put him in the ambulance, and they dropped them. They dropped Mike Modano, who was on the gurney as they were trying to put him in the ambulance.
Dave
You don't want to laugh at that. I mean, I guess 30 years later or whatever it's been, it's okay. But I mean, that's so. That's so not cool. Like the four guys on a stretcher and it's like. It's like something out of a comedy movie.
Roy
Do you realize how rare it is for cameras to be in the tunnel, too?
Dave
That's why that. That's exactly why. Because they don't want something like that to happen, for it to get caught on camera.
Roy
Yeah, that was.
Dave
That was disrespectful.
Roy
That is very regretful. Well, the good news is coming up next on our show, we have Fatou Bar from the Black Girls Hockey Club. And we are going to celebrate the end of Black History Month with her.
Rose
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Roy
This is the last day of Black History Month. And to celebrate, we're going to talk about black girls in hockey.
Dave
All right.
Roy
Yes. We have the board of. We have a member of the board of directors of the Black Girl Hockey Club for two bar. And I just want to go over what you guys do to expand the sport of hockey and especially the black community and especially for black women.
Dan
Yes. So, hi. Thank you guys for having me.
Roy
Welcome to the show.
Dan
I'm so excited. So I just want to say it in just the easiest terms. Black Girl Hockey Club. We essentially remove barriers for entry for black girls and women in hockey. So that means many things. Whether it's removing the barrier entry. As we know, hockey is super expensive, so we're giving girls scholarships. If you're a Black girl that's 9 to 18 years old, apply for a scholarship. We're giving you scholarships so that you can either pay for gas to travel to the hockey games, get equipment. We also do equipment scholarships with Bauer. Just removing all those barriers. But if you're someone like me who's never played hockey or even been on ice, if you want to be an executive in hockey, we offer mentorships. If you want to be a referee, a coach behind the bench, we're essentially removing those barriers of entry by giving you entry. So that's in a nutshell, what black Girl Hockey club does.
Roy
All right. I have a daughter her name is Claire. Yes, Princess Claire. Princess Claire. She is a black girl, and she tried hockey for free last week. Can you convince me that her future is bright as a hockey fan and even potentially a future hockey player?
Dan
Absolutely. I think what's the best thing about black women in hockey right now is that you actually can see it. Whether it's Sarah Nurse, who got the most points ever in the Olympics, who is an Olympian, who is a gold medalist, who actually lets the black girls hold her gold medal, that wears her gold medal like you really can see it, or someone like Soroya, who is actually on TV now, and she also won the Isabel cup, like, before it became the pwhl. You actually can see yourself in hockey with these beautiful women. So if Claire wants to do it, she can do it. And she has the support of the black hockey aunties like me.
Dave
Fatou, you mentioned Sarah Nurse and I. We've been following the PW for the last two seasons now. How much has that lead coming together and its popularity and all the exposure, how much has that impacted bringing young black women into the sport, just from your perspective?
Dan
I think the best part about it is the accessibility that you actually can watch it, whether it's on YouTube or local TV now, so that you actually know it exists. I was actually at a game recently, and, you know, like, you can put the messages on the big screen. There was a woman on there who was wishing her friend, who's 40 years old, a happy birthday, and she's like, you always wanted to be a Dallas Stars player because you did not know that women existed in hockey. I wish this was here for you as a kid, but you're here today and happy birthday. So it's something that, like, little girls like Claire can see that instead of wanting to be your favorite player on a men's team, you now can be your favorite player on a women's team.
Dave
Have the players been like, I would think, but have they been getting involved and really reaching out to the youth?
Dan
1,000%. One of the coolest things I've done with Black Girl Hockey Club is that we partnered with the Toronto Maple Leafs. Obviously, hockey is much more prevalent in Canada. We had. And it was an all women hockey panel. All black women hockey panel.
Roy
Oh, wow.
Dan
Sarah Nurse was. Sarah Nurse was actually on the panel. Saroya Tinker was also on the panel. And Saroya actually said, she's like, you know, I always almost didn't talk to the people in hockey because they didn't relate to me. I would just have my earphones in. And you know, Angela is a little older than me, so yes, she's an idol. But I didn't grow up watching her because I'm a little younger. And I actually stayed in hockey because I wanted people who look like me to see that I'm here. And that's why I'm still in hockey, because I just wanted people to have a role model and know that we are here. Even though I didn't always love the sport. Cause I didn't feel it loved me. So, yeah, the women, I feel like the women in particular are making sure that they're seen and heard so that more people that look like them can be seen and heard.
Roy
You live in New York City.
Dan
Yes, I do.
Roy
Why exactly are you a Capitals fan?
Dan
Because I'm from D.C. and I love everything D.C. and obviously, I mean, the best player in the league is on the Washington Capitals, so how can you not be a fan?
Dave
Logan Thompson.
Dan
Yes, obviously, you know, congratulations, Canada. But that win would have been more safe if Logan Thompson.
Roy
Yeah, I mean, what are we doing with Jordan Billington here?
Dave
But he. Benny played well.
Roy
Yeah.
Dan
Counted. I mean, there was also a certain person who cursed the US Team. Maybe we don't talk about that, but I'm just.
G
Yeah, we don't talk about. I want to ask you a question. You mentioned the four Nations. In the wake of the Four nations, something I've heard a lot is, you know, we need to make the game more accessible. We need to make it more affordable at the youth levels to really get people interested. So what do you see as the biggest barriers for hockey for not just, you know, not just kids that, you know, the typical kid that wants to play, but women, and black women in particular.
Dan
I think obviously beyond the cost is the accessibility. Like, it's really not a lot of these. A lot of times you're going in deep into the suburbs to play. So that's gas money. That's like, you know, finding a babysitter because you're going to be away from home for a long time. To me, that's really the biggest barrier. Just literally finding where can, like a local youth in the city, like, where can I go to play? That's also why D.C. is great, because we actually have a place in Northeast D.C. that is really accessible to the kids and the youth to go learn hockey. And they also serve as like an after school center, too.
Roy
This week is the 130th anniversary of the creation of the Colored Hockey League of the Maritimes, which is based out of Nova Scotia and Prince Edward Island. This league was created 14 years prior to the National Hockey association and 22 years prior to the National Hockey League and 60 years prior to William Rees first game with the Boston Bruins. Now, a lot has changed since then. Obviously, we got a women's league now, as we mentioned. But as far as demographics are concerned for players and for front office, which skews heavily white, do you think there is any progression or regression or stagnation in diversity and inclusion in the National Hockey League right now?
Dan
So I'll start with the positive.
Roy
Oh, that's positive.
Dan
I'll definitely start with the progression. I mean, I don't know if it's the biggest thing, but at least there is a code of conduct for fans.
Roy
So, you know, so no more banana throwing then.
Dan
I mean, unfortunately, that is still happening, but you will be called out and you will pay for it. Like, you might not be able to go to a game anymore if you actually do that. So, I mean, it is a positive that there is a code of conduct that if you do something racist, if you do something crazy, if you make fans feel unsafe, there will actually be consequences. To me, that's super small because that should have always been there. But that is something obviously, for me, the biggest thing I talk about, what can they do better? Hire. Hire people of color, hire black women, Hire. Hire people that you're not like, that is outside of what you normally look at. That's how you grow the sport. Without diversity of thought or diversity. There isn't innovation. Like we were talking about the colored Hockey League. You know, everybody says, no, hockey is really a white people sport, or like, you don't belong. But actually, would you enjoy hockey if there was not the slap shot that was created that came from the Colored Hockey League? Like, we talk about everybody's favorite player who's gonna break the record, Alex Ovechkin. Can you imagine him without the slap shot that was created by us? We do belong here. We created innovation in league and there could be so much more work that's done. So, you know, I'm always here in hockey to remind people. When you look at me like, oh, my God, like, you're here. I'm like, yeah, we've been here since the beginning, always reminding people.
Dave
So in terms of that progress, obviously we have a ways to go before we get anywhere close to what we want to get. But we do have Mike Rear in a GM office right now. We do have Jessica Campbell.
Roy
Brett Peterson.
Dave
Brett Peterson in the Florida Panthers front office. Jessica Campbell behind an NHL bench in Seattle. So there is some progress being made. Do you feel like that progress is on a path? I'm trying to think like a way to phrase the timing question, but like, is it happening? Are we starting to see enough momentum that we can not look at these things as a one off or you know what I'm saying, Like, are we finally starting to see this as a trend?
Dan
I think that it's starting to happen, but obviously it can be done way more and at a faster. Like if you think about it like, I know I always go back to my favorite team, but like the Washington Capitals, we have Emily Engel that's in like that's behind the bench and we're winning all of these challenges because she's actually looking at them and saying, yeah, that was offsides. This is what happened. I think that when you have the diversity in different looking people looking at this, the sport is going to get better and be more innovative. So while it's great that we are starting to see see some difference, it could be done at a faster rate and more so that there's so many people that we almost can't name them all because there's so many people.
G
All right, you keep bringing up the Capitals, so I'll ask you about them. I'll be the guy. What do the Capitals have to do to avoid an embarrassing exit in the playoffs this year? Because if they finish this regular season as strong as they've been all year with the president, if they don't get to at least the Eastern Conference finals there, it's going to be looked at upon as that was a fraudulent year. So what do the Caps have to do to avoid that title this year?
Dan
So I'm going to start slow. Get out the first round because you haven't been out the first round since you won the Cup. So get out the first round first. A lot of Caps fans will be super satisfied. And also I feel like if they show up, when they show up and play their game, they're going to win. Because let's be honest, so many people were crying about them making the playoffs last year. Apparently Detroit should have made it instead of them. Apparently the Penguins should have made it instead of.
Roy
We don't talk about the Penguins here.
Dan
Obvious. You know, obviously we didn't do great in the playoffs last year. We were just happy to be there. So the fact that we are where we are, especially in the Eastern Conference in comparison to all the other teams, just play your game because nobody is expecting you to do it and you Are doing it. Play your game, and you got this.
G
So before the year, I think you would be looking at it and saying, wow, you know, we're the top team in the east and we have a chance to, you know, win a playoff series. That's great. But at this point, with the way the year has gone, like, what is realistic for you guys? And what are fans gonna say if you guys lose in the second round? Are fans gonna be saying, oh, that was a waste of a year. We really screwed that one up, or are they gonna be saying, well, you know, we kind of came out of nowhere. We had a great year. Like, it might be something to build on at the end of Ovi's tenure here.
Dan
I mean, I think, honestly, what first fans are going to be excited about is he's going to break the record before the playoffs. So we're going to be living off of that high. And I know, like, as a Caps fan, we were, especially after we won the cup, we were like, you know what, we're just going to be happy if ov when OV breaks the record and if a playoff comes, that's like ice cream. But now we know we can win it all and we can enjoy Obi just making history and looking good doing it. And, you know, for us elder millennials, knowing that life doesn't end at 35, that you can be an almost 40 year old and you're looking like a 25 year old and having fun and can even break your leg and still break the record. So it's really fun time to be a Caps fan. I think it's actually a really fun time to be a hockey fan because you're going to witness history that we might not see again.
Dave
Just gonna throw this out there. The record for most goals in an NA Stanley cup playoff is 19. Ovi, go break it.
Roy
Good luck with that.
Dan
I know he did 15 when we won the cup, and I think he can. I mean, I don't know if I'm a goalie. I would want him to score on me so that my name can be in the history books as a Panther fan.
G
I want to go on the record. I want to go on the record. I do not want OV to break any playoff records because that means the Panthers probably don't make the Stanley Cup Final. So I just want to put that out there.
Dave
No, he'll score.
G
I hope he breaks the record in the regular season. I think it'll be great. But let's. Let's save the record breaking for the regular season. Let's keep that in the regular Columbus.
Dave
And then he'll just toast.
Dan
Yes. Can we celebrate the Panthers going to Canada and beating a Canadian team and hockey even more?
G
No. Don't get these folks started on going to Canada. Don't get these folks started on having to go to Canada. They'll complain and sound small.
Roy
I got one more question here and we can. Here you see stories like Akeem Aliyu, who was called a racial slur by Bill Peters.
Dan
I call him Malcolm X.
Roy
He's Malcolm X. Well, as we know, he was called a racial slur by Bill Peters when he was in Calgary. And Bill Peters made a concerted effort to basically push his career down from getting a true shot in the league. And then you see stories like Tony D'Angelo who used Larychester Slur in the minors, who had an incident with Kay. Andre Miller with his own teammate with the Rangers.
Dan
Yes. And he's getting chance in the face.
Roy
Yeah, he got chance after chance and now being signed with the Islanders picking him up in the scrap heap in Russia with the khl. You see guys like this getting chance after chance. What goes through your head?
Dan
That's why more work needs to be done. Because Tony D'Angelo would be considered like the worker that you don't hire. The obvious red flag. And he's not that it matters, but he's not even good enough to be getting all those chances. That's how you know more work needs to be done. Because why are we even talking about him? Like, it's really embarrassing for these teams to put their necks out there for someone who's not even worth it and I don't even think appreciates it and then ends the exact same way. It's almost like the ego of them to think, well, we're different. Well, you're not different when this person's terrible. Like, let's be real.
Roy
But Two Ball, you're doing great work with Black Girl Hockey Club and I really appreciate you coming on. Continue all your successes with the club.
Dan
Thank you so much. And you know what? I love seeing you hosting this show. We need more like you. Like, I mean, this was my pleasure. I would be remiss if I did not say hi to my best friend, Lauren Andrews, who is a huge fan of everything you guys do. And I know she'll be watching and will be mad if I don't say hi to you.
Dave
So.
Dan
Hi, Lauren.
G
Hi, Lauren.
Dave
Thank you, Lauren.
Fatou
Hi, Lauren. Thank you, Lauren.
G
Hi, Lauren.
Roy
Thank you. Fatu. Thank you for joining us.
Dan
Thank you so much. This was great.
Dave
See you in the playoffs, Fatu.
Dan
Absolutely. I want that revenge.
G
No, you don't. No, you don't. You don't want that smoke. You don't want that smoke. You don't want that smoke. No, you don't.
Dave
I'm not talking about the Panthers. We'll see you in the playoffs. At some point. We're going to be on the road. We're going to meet up again.
Roy
We'll see you at the win.
G
The Caps do not want that smoke. That's all I know.
Dan
You're right. I want the easiest. So I hope the Rangers make the playoffs.
Roy
See?
Dave
You should have said Penguins before happening.
Rose
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Dan
Did you hear that?
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Roy
All right, it's time for the weekend review for the Florida Panthers. Before we get into the games, however, Matthew Tkachuk, who was fresh off of four nations and very much injured, was on the Tonight show with Jimmy Fallon. And Jimmy Fallon talk to him about the four nations tournament.
G
The four nations face Off. Everyone was talking about this.
Roy
Everyone watched like 60 million people. When was the last time they, they did this?
Matthew Tkachuk
It's been 10 years, I think since last international. The last international opportunity. So this is my ninth year in the league, so I've kind of got the short end of the stick on that.
G
You never had the opportunity?
Matthew Tkachuk
No, never had the opportunity. So I think, you know, myself and all the guys that were in this were just so jacked up for it. And I think that's why you saw the fights all at the beginning of that game against Canada. I think guys want to get their anger out of the way.
Roy
No, they did. The first nine seconds of the game.
Dan
There was like three fights.
Matthew Tkachuk
Yeah.
G
Yeah. And you're one of them.
Matthew Tkachuk
I was one of them. My brother was one of them.
Roy
So.
G
Yeah, dad was proud, huh? Yeah, I think he was proud.
Roy
Yeah, I agree. Yeah. So Matthew Kachuk is getting his shine nationwide as the face of USA Hockey. So good for him.
Dave
A hockey player on the Tonight Show. A Florida Panther on the Tonight Show.
Roy
Florida Panther on the Tonight.
Dave
What timeline are we living in right now? What the hell's going on?
Roy
You didn't see that shit on Carson, I'll tell you that.
G
Couldn't believe it.
Dave
Wild stuff.
Fatou
He was a little bit.
Roy
Really? You believe so, huh?
Dan
Yeah.
Fatou
I would have given more spiciness or Something like that. But it was great.
G
But yeah, let's be honest. What does Jimmy Fallon know about Puck dude?
Roy
I mean, whatever is.
G
Whatever his producers. Exactly.
Roy
Yeah. So that's. That's what happened. So good for him, wearing that Perry Ellis wardrobe that he's sponsored by.
G
It's pretty awesome to see. Sorry, just it. A Florida Panther like you guys mentioned as the face of US hockey on a media tour. I mean, he was on with the Kelsey Brothers. I don't know if you guys heard that. It was a great interview. Totally recommended both brothers. Brady Tkachuk was on Spit and Chicklets talking about it. Like, these guys have quickly, in nine seconds, become the faces of American hockey and they're going to be the guys that are going to grow the sport in this country. It's really, really cool to see.
Fatou
Thank you, Bart.
Dave
To see hockey in places, you see hockey getting talked about. You see it on the Tonight show, the Kelsey Brothers podcast, the Dan Patrick Show. Like, people are talking about hockey where hockey is not usually creeping into. That's the biggest thing. I think what will hopefully be the residual effort from this tournament when all is said and done is we're going to be talking about how much it drew the game.
Roy
Yeah, that's great. But how about coming our show? That'd be nice. You know, we're down the street. You know, you can drive down here if you feel like it. You know, from Fort Lauderdale. I mean, you have to break the traffic on i95 and everything, but, you know, come in studio.
Fatou
Yeah, you're very welcome. Barky and Chucky.
G
Yeah, come all Florida Panthers have a Panthers. Yeah, Open invite.
Roy
Yeah. How about the entire roster? Just come on in, hang out in the studio. Yeah, yeah, I'm sure there's a lot of room. You know, I'll just hand off a mic and whatever. All right, let's get to the games. The Panthers started off the second half of the season against the Seattle Kraken. And there's something about the Seattle Kraken that the Panthers just can't crack. They are now 35 and 0 against Seattle. What the hell is going on here?
Dave
It felt like the first game after a break, they just felt a little discombobulated. They couldn't get their offensive zone time to click. They couldn't get the shots on goal. Credit to Joey Decord. He played a great game in goal for Seattle. It was cool to see, you know, the welcome back videos from Montour and Mahora and the fans gave them a good ovation and all that, but but yeah, there's something about Seattle that the Panthers just don't click.
Roy
Yeah, the Panthers led in all the counting stats, the shots in fact, expected goals they were laying in. Except this was a TJ Luxmore night. So yeah, he was one of the refs in this game. And when TJ Luxmore is refereeing a Florida Panthers game, shit happens. You know why? Because he adversely affected this game for the Florida Panthers. And you can see on the video here that Evan Rodriguez was called for goaltender interference as he, as he skated in and affected what would have been a goal for Mackie Samoskiewicz. He was, Rodriguez was pushed into the net. Into the crease. He was pushed into the crease. Dracord tried to make a save there and apparently that was goaltender interference. Rodriguez getting pushed into the crease. Rodriguez unable to exit the crease because Josh Mahura would not let him get out. And then effective save.
Dave
So he didn't touch the goalie.
Fatou
Penalty for time.
Roy
You are a minute 12 late on that, by the way.
Dave
So you didn't touch the goalie for you. He got pushed into the crease.
Roy
Correct.
Dave
And the puck was past the goalie before any of the contact. So as I'm holding up all these fingers here, like all those things did not happen. So where exactly was the interference?
G
So here's my issue with what happened is the announcement in the arena was he was. He entered the crease on his own is what the ref said, right?
Roy
Yeah, right. What happened?
G
That's not what happened. So I was, I was at the game and I saw the replay on the board and I said to my friend that I was there with, I said, I think this one might be coming back because let's be clear, let's Rodriguez once he gets pushed in, right, like you could argue that he affects the court's ability to get over and make the save because of his positioning. Right.
Dave
I've seen such more intrusive, of course.
Roy
But Rodriguez tried to exit him. A hurry wouldn't let him.
G
So here's the issue is the explanation of why it was goaltender interference was not sufficient. That was not a good explanation. He was not, he did not enter the crease on his own. He was pushed into the crease and then he tried to exit. Look, can you say agree with the.
Dave
Call but not the explanation?
G
Okay, no, no, no, no. I'm just saying based off the explanation, the call was wrong.
Dave
It was all wrong.
G
I, I, I know I wouldn't have called it. I'm not a referee biased.
Roy
God, Damn it. All right, so anyway.
Dave
Anyway, draped in Panthers bias like.
Roy
Yes.
G
Yeah. So going. Going forward, the rest of the game, like, you know, I don't want to spend too much time on goalie interference, but the rest of the game, that took the Panthers the win out of their sales.
Roy
I want to spend more time on goalie interference because I'm pissed off about it.
Dave
Because at the time, they had just scored to tie the game, the momentum and totally.
G
No, that actually gave them the lead. That was a two.
Dave
No, that would have given them the lead. They had just tied it.
G
Correct.
Dave
Momentum was on their side. And then that just kind of totally.
G
Took over it after that. They were terrible.
Roy
The National Hockey League came back on the video review explanation. They said that video review determined Evan Rodriguez's presence in the crease and his contact, Andre the Cord's stick impaired his ability to play his position prior to Mackie Samoskiewicz goal.
G
Right.
Roy
That. That. That's them defending the referee. That's.
Dave
That's bullshit. That is what that is.
Roy
Panthers lost 21 in that game on Tuesday. They went to Nashville and they played the Predators, and that was a much better effort right there. That was much, much better game.
Dave
Most teams have been enjoying their trips to Nashville this season.
Roy
Yeah, Honky tonk up there. Sam Bennett. Goal assist and a fight.
Dave
I think there's a name for that.
Roy
Yeah, I think that. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we won't go.
Dave
The Ned Gretzky hat trick.
Rose
Rose.
Roy
No, no. Another pet adoption for Benny's buddies. By the way, I really want. And Jordan McPherson is trying to get to him, but he hasn't been available at practice. But I want to know if that goal and four nations by Sam Bennett helped another pet get adopted.
Dave
I would hope so. I think it's just a Panthers promotion, but I think for the sake of good humanity and good dog entity, or whatever the word, canine entity, like, we can. We can get that dog another. An extra adoption.
G
Reds are bad, eh?
Roy
I guess.
Dave
Yeah. Yeah, yeah, they are.
G
They're really bad. Just watching that game. Like, they're undisciplined.
Dave
They give up too many. They can't score. They can't. Rems.
Roy
Yeah, Bruno. Poor, poor Bruno. Yeah, Andrew Brunette's probably not going to survive.
G
Cats might have dodged a bullet day this season.
Dave
Well, I mean, considering how it's gone with Palmer.
Roy
Yeah.
G
Pretty good decision by Bill. Zita Rose is doing Instagram stories. Just ignore her.
Roy
Justin Sodif scored his.
Fatou
Yes.
Roy
I'm telling how as I'm trying to do this show. What the hell is going on?
Fatou
I'm trying to tell everybody how time is up.
Roy
Oh, so you're affecting the show. Justice Sodi scored his first NHL goal. He was in the lineup because E2 Lucerina was on paternity leave. Congratulations, baby girl. Baby girl.
Dave
Dad, bump incoming.
Roy
Yes, sir.
G
He did have a great in the game last night. He was great last night.
Rose
Yeah.
G
He almost scored.
Roy
Yeah, almost. He's gonna be fighting off boys with his hockey stick, man, you know? Yeah. Spencer night. 18 shots, face 17 goal. 17 shots, stopped 40 attempts. Good defense.
Dave
Yes. Well, again Nashville.
G
Just one thing on Swordief, I thought it wasn't just that he scored. He was sort of.
Roy
Sort of?
G
Sort of France, sort of.
Roy
It sounded like a cordial.
G
He was great. Not just the goal, but I thought he was really good defensively. He made some nice plays tracking back and he can fly. So I think he could be a player that, you know, put him on the fourth line. God forbid. Yeah.
Roy
It's been a man. It's about time. Yeah.
Dave
If they're going to be sustainable for a long time, they need to have cheap contracts that can contribute. They need the Lundell's, the Mackies, the Sortiffs. They need those guys to step in and supplement that bottom half the roster.
Roy
Well, like aces this, this playoff season, right?
Dave
No.
Roy
Yeah, let's close it. Yeah, let's. Let's close it. We got one game to review and one game to preview, so let's do that. Edmonton last night, big game. The game that got flipped for Flyers Penguins on ESPN plus. Which obviously worked out, I guess. Yeah, I mean it worked out for them. Unfortunately it didn't work out for me because the Penguins won in overtime.
G
Yeah.
Roy
Yeah.
Dave
They ain't going nowhere.
Roy
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Neither one of them are going in. They flipped that game for two teams that are not making the playoffs. I don't care how that game result.
Dave
Potential finals, rematch, up, whatever.
G
Do you hate the Penguins more than you like the Panthers?
Roy
No. No, no, no. I don't believe so, but starting to think so. It's pretty damn equal.
Fatou
We should put it in the poll. We should put a poll and then.
G
Yeah, it's getting a little close.
Dave
Roy, what happens when Crosby retires? Do you still hate the Penguins?
Roy
Yeah.
Jimmy Fallon
Okay.
Roy
This goes back to 1990.
Dave
Okay.
Roy
Okay. Yeah. Then the Black. The Blackhawks lost to the. To the Penguins and Stan could finally.
Dave
So whoever the next Penguins going to hate him too.
Roy
Oh, they'll figure out a way for them to fudge the draft lottery again and get another Superstar, this is two.
Fatou
Minutes of the Panthers. So what are we talking? Penguins?
Roy
Panthers? We like to know. I'm bringing that up because they flipped. That was a national game and they flipped it for Flyers. Penguins. What the hell are we doing here?
Dave
Just throws a little grenade into the middle of the room like I'm trying.
Roy
To do the damn show.
Fatou
What the hell are we doing here? Go finish it.
Roy
All right, fine. We're not even closing the Oilers 4 to 3. There was another overturned goal. Another review.
Dave
Three games.
Roy
Three games in a row.
Dave
Overturn goals, man. The Panthers are fighting through it.
Roy
Yeah, I was in a balk off. Went offside on what would have been a powerful goal.
Dave
Pretty offside.
Roy
Yeah, that was way, way obvious.
Dave
That was the opposite of the goalie interference call. That one's pretty obvious.
Roy
Yeah. Carter for Hickey would end up scoring in that game anyway, so it doesn't even matter. But Anton Lindell, a goal and two assists and a nickname that Rose would absolutely love. Baby. Barky Rose.
Dave
What do you think of Anton Lindell? Do you know what he looks like?
Fatou
Yeah, yeah, I know how he's blonde, baby face, but yeah, yeah. 23 and very tall. But for me it's Barky. But both of them, I love them. But Barky.
Roy
Yeah, that. The Panthers won 4 to 3. That was. That was a. They. You know what? Paul Maurice did not like a lot of what happened with that game with the Panthers because. Too much transition.
Dave
Yeah, they, they. Anytime they get into the rush game, it's not good for this team. It was good for the President's trophy winning Panthers team.
Roy
Yeah.
Dave
But not the Paul Maurice Panthers.
Roy
No.
Dave
Fortunately, the Panthers played very well in other areas. They limited Edmondson's chances to. Sergey Bobrovsky. Really wasn't that great either. But they scored four goals and they came out on top.
G
It was an interesting night for Bob. I actually thought he was pretty good. He made some big saves. He let up two tough ones. One was kind of greasy. The other one was really bad. The Brett Kulak one dry saddle makes a great play. Like, that's just a world class hockey play where you have Gustav forsling absolutely all over. You shove a guy off, basically lift it with one hand, you know, roof it. It was a really, really unbelievable play. Like, just left me, you know, mouth a jar. Like unbelievable. But I thought the Panthers, they had good and bad spells last night. They dominated the game. I mean, they outshot them 36, 27. So to say they were bad last night would be rough. They're giving up too Much in transition. Still, two of their goals were in transition. Right. So you don't like that. But for Hagee's goal was awesome. I would have liked a little more juice in the building for a Stanley cup final rematch last night. Like, I feel like there was a whole lot of energy. I know it's a Thursday, but still, you could tell that game meant something. There was a fight early and walking out of that building, you were like, okay, this. This win feels great. So it was a fun night.
Roy
Tomorrow the the Florida Panthers play the Calgary Flames. And the Flames coming off a loss to the Lightning that didn't stop pregame. Ryan Lomberg, given his feelings about returning to Tampa. You've got a lot of history in this building. Some good, some bad. Do you like coming here or do you hate it? I like the palm trees in the sunshine, but I hate these guys. Wow. Yeah. He hates lightning.
Dave
His mic cut out there.
Roy
Yeah. Yeah. That's the silence. Yeah, that is my guy. I think the. The people in the control truck kind of. They. They saw this is a new alone improved on Levitar show with the Stugas gamble on. You know that's not going to stop me from talking, right? Like I'm doing a show here. What are you doing? All right, all right. The Flames have lost seven of the last 11. They are still looking at a wild card spot. They are still close to getting it, but losing seminar out of the last 11. Yeah.
Dave
One point out, actually. Look at them.
Roy
Yeah. So they better straighten up and fly right because you don't want to lose out on that. You can lose the playoff spot the way they're going. And right now going into the Stanley cup, defending Stanley cup champions house. Oh, boy. It's gonna be tough for them.
Dave
It is.
Fatou
Thank you very much. Everything. Panthers come to our show. This was a great show. See you next time.
Roy
Can I end the show?
Fatou
Can I already end it? So.
Roy
No, you didn't already end it because I'm trying to end the show.
Fatou
Okay. Ended it. One, two, three, go.
Roy
Okay, goodbye.
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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz: The Hockey Show - The Bingo Button
Release Date: February 28, 2025
Overview
In this episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz," host Dan Le Batard and co-host Stugotz delve deep into the world of hockey, offering a blend of analysis, hot takes, and heartfelt discussions. From player safety concerns to the state of diversity in the NHL, the show covers a wide array of topics that cater to both hardcore hockey fans and casual listeners alike.
The episode kicks off with a lively exchange among the hosts, setting the stage for the discussions to come. Roy welcomes everyone to the show, and Dave introduces the first "hot take" of the day.
Notable Quote:
One of the primary topics revolves around player safety, sparked by an incident involving Rob Ray, a former Sabres player turned broadcaster, who was hit by a puck. The conversation emphasizes the importance of protective gear, specifically visors, in preventing such injuries.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Roy delivers a critical "hot take" on the New York Islanders, blaming their poor performance on the return of Anthony D'Angelo, which led to significant losses against teams like the Rangers.
Key Points:
Notable Quotes:
Ethan shares a "hot take" on the Edmonton Oilers, predicting a poor season ahead due to injuries and lackluster performances, while also touching upon the Florida Panthers' struggles post-Four Nations tournament.
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Notable Quotes:
The hosts celebrate notable achievements and discuss mishaps within the hockey world.
Wins of the Week:
Ryan Suter's Milestone: Dave highlights Ryan Suter's 1,500th NHL game, describing the touching moment when the Blues brought his four kids into the locker room.
Notable Quote:
Claire's First Hockey Session: Roy shares a personal win about his daughter Claire trying hockey for the first time, emphasizing the importance of introducing young girls to the sport.
Notable Quote:
Fails of the Week:
Referee Justin Kia's Incident: Dave describes a disappointing moment where referee Justin Kia was struck in the "bingo button" during a game, highlighting concerns over referee safety.
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Historic Incident with Mike Modano: Roy recounts a 31-year-old incident where Mike Modano was dropped from a gurney, underscoring the dangers players face even during emergencies.
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In honor of Black History Month, the show features an insightful interview with Fatou Bar from the Black Girl Hockey Club. The discussion centers on removing barriers for black girls and women in hockey, offering scholarships, mentorships, and promoting inclusivity within the sport.
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The hosts provide an in-depth review of the Florida Panthers' recent games, analyzing performances, refereeing decisions, and player highlights.
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Game Against Seattle Kraken: The Panthers struggled, leading to frustration over officiating, particularly a controversial goaltender interference call involving Evan Rodriguez.
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Victory Over Nashville Predators: A better performance showcased by players like Sam Bennett and Anton Lindell, emphasizing the Panthers' ability to bounce back.
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Referee Critique: Ongoing frustrations with officiating consistency and perceived biases affecting game outcomes.
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Matthew Tkachuk on The Tonight Show: Discussion about Matthew Tkachuk's appearance on Jimmy Fallon, highlighting his role as a face of USA Hockey and the impact on the sport's visibility.
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The episode concludes with light-hearted banter among the hosts, reflecting on the discussions and maintaining the show's signature humor.
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Conclusion
This episode of "The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz" offers a comprehensive look into current hockey topics, blending serious analysis with personal stories and humor. From addressing critical issues like player safety and diversity to celebrating personal milestones and discussing game performances, the hosts provide a well-rounded and engaging discourse that resonates with a broad audience.
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This summary encapsulates the key discussions and moments from the episode, providing listeners with an insightful overview while highlighting the show's dynamic and engaging format.