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Roy Bellamy
Steps to the top of the Eiffel Tower.
Ethan
You were made to take the easy route. We were made to easily package your trip. Expedia made to travel flight inclusive packages are atoll protected. Major changes are coming to the NHL as the league fast tracks its new CBA to this upcoming season. What does it all mean? We'll break it down. This is the Hockey Show. Welcome to the Hockey Show. Before we get started, I want to talk about one of our favorite Panthers fans who in reports that we are seeing, we lost today. Steve Elario was a charter and sales broker with a yacht company called Northrop and Johnson. He was also a Panther season ticket holder. And if you are a Panthers fan, if you've attended any Panthers game, you will know who this guy is. If you're watching on DKN and see him, you notice a striking resemblance to Rick Felt Flair. And it's proving at the Panthers games because every time they show him on camera, the crowd woos.
David Dwork
Now he had that great seat that was right next to the Zamboni tunnel. So the cameraman was always right there. But the crowd would get excited every time he was up there. There would be woos. And this is going back to a time when they didn't have as much to be excited about his Panther game at Panther games. But Steve was always there just getting fans excited. He was super friendly, always smiling. You always see fans coming out to him taking pictures. And you know, Panthers lost a good one today.
Adnan Ver
I thought one of the great signs of how awesome of an organization the Florida Panthers have become is that Ric Flair was on the parade float at least the first year. I don't know if he was the second year I didn't see him. But yeah, Steve, yeah, but he was on the, the parade float the first.
Ethan
He's on the ice and I thought.
Adnan Ver
It was so cool. Just he's just a regular guy and he's a fan. That became a popular thing and, and they took care of their people and you know, he'll be definitely missed around the arena. He was, it was always one of the better parts of the game when he would, they would show him and everybody would go woo.
Ethan
Yeah. As Dave and I. As I said, Dave and I met him on the ice after the pan one in June. He's a good guy, really nice to everybody. Never got annoyed when people yell woo in his face.
David Dwork
That was cool, man.
Ethan
So, yeah.
David Dwork
So Steve power, Steve.
Ethan
Rest in power, brother. You will be missed. All right, let's talk about the CBA and the changes that are being implemented this upcoming season. Not all the changes because the 84 game season, that's going to happen next year. All right, so there will be a playoff salary cap for the first time in league history. This is in response to a handful of teams, including the defending champions, using long term injured reserve as salary cap crutch.
David Dwork
I mean, whatever you want to call it. They were working within the rules. Yeah, that's. Nobody was breaking any rules to the.
Ethan
Tune of four of the five. Four or five of the last few Stanley cup champions have used that rule.
David Dwork
So I think most playoff teams, whether they win the Stanley cup or not, like you get a guy hurt, it's the hockey season, it's the playoffs. Like shit happens.
Ethan
Yeah. Also, there will be a ban on deferred compensation starting the day the Panthers raise their Stanley cup banner. So no more days of, I guess what, paying a base salary of a million dollars and then deferring it down the line.
David Dwork
Yeah, that's one. Like, I know that a big part of the way that the Panthers have constructed a lot of their contracts is as bonus. Most of it comes in as bonus money. So the players get paid right on July 1, right when the new league year starts. And then their annual salary, which comes during the season, is a much smaller number. So they're getting most of their money up front. I don't know if that's going to hamper the way that Bill Zito and his guys have constructed their contracts, but it's certainly going to be something to keep an eye on.
Ethan
Yeah, it seems like. Seems like this is all, you know, how the Miami rules and the NCAA happened in the late 80s, early 90s. It seems like it's an anti Panthers rule.
Adnan Ver
I'm interested to see. I know that the ltir is going into effect for the playoffs, but there are changes that are being made to ltir in the regular season as well, in terms of the percentage of the cap and how much salary you can actually put on ltir.
Ethan
Yeah, it's like half.
Adnan Ver
Yeah, I, I don't really. I don't exactly understand what's. What the whole deal is. I'm going to have to. I'm sure more information will come out about it, but I'm interested to see, obviously, the big news to start the year is that Matthew Tkachuk is expected to be on LTIR until at least January. How is that going to affect the Evan Rodriguez situation? I'm already intrigued by what the Panthers are going to do with this. And then, you know, look, I mean, Kachuk was going to be back for the playoffs, so unless another injury happened, the Panthers probably weren't going to be beneficiaries of LTIR again because they were going to have to put his salary back on the books at some point.
Roy Bellamy
But, you know, someone else, maybe somebody.
Adnan Ver
Right. Forbid, maybe.
David Dwork
You never know.
Adnan Ver
God forbid somebody gets hurt and they were able to do it again and go out and, you know, get somebody at the deadline. The question is going to be what does this do for the trade deadline? Is the trade deadline going to be a dud now? So.
Ethan
Well, I mean, one big trade kind of happened. Well, a couple of big trades haven't had the deadline, Ashley, but yeah, it's been mostly. Especially free agent season. I mean, it's been mostly duds.
Adnan Ver
I mean, the Panthers. The Panthers wouldn't have been able to get Brad Marchand.
Ethan
Yeah.
Adnan Ver
Without.
Ethan
That was the.
Adnan Ver
That was one of the salary. With. Without ltir. The Seth Jones trade I think would have worked because of the salary that was retained and then them that worked. But Marshand would have never worked.
Ethan
That's another. That's another thing. By the way, double salary retention will be a no no this year. So you can't get another team to retain salary for.
David Dwork
That's interesting. You see that. That plays into the whole Seth Jones thing and a lot of deals that have been made over the last few years. A lot of teams are retaining salary. They want to build up their. Their stables of young prospects and futures. So it's going to be fun to see kind of how teams adjust in real time to this. And I think, you know, we're going to be certainly watching from an interesting perspective following the Panthers.
Adnan Ver
And the other change is not this year, but next year. The big change is that the season's going to start in September now.
Ethan
Yeah.
Adnan Ver
And the cup they're hoping to be handed out in Mid June instead of late June. The way it's been last this past season, it was the 17th of June, and then the season before was the 24th.
Ethan
That. That was. That was it.
Adnan Ver
That was crazy. And now and then the Panthers were back in training camp three months later.
David Dwork
That was a crazy week when they won the first one, and it was like they won it on the 24th. They had, like, five days to celebrate the draft.
Adnan Ver
The parade was on the 30th, Lombard.
David Dwork
Was on Sunday, and then the next day was like, nuts. So I'm definitely sure that they want to change these rules, whether it's Panthers related or not.
Adnan Ver
And two more regular season games as well. An 84 game regular season.
David Dwork
That's preseason. You know, I. I get why there were some people that wanted to hold on to that, because the young guys, you know, that aren't in the NHL get a chance to be in an NHL uniform in an NHL arena for a lot of the parts. But, you know, you got to do what's best for the big guys.
Adnan Ver
It seems like they'd rather have more training camp time than preseason time. Kind of the way in the NFL teams more want these joint practices rather than an actual preseason game. It seems like that's kind of the trend for. For the NHL as well.
David Dwork
But football and hockey, where, like, you either have to be going 100 miles per hour or there's no real point to doing it. Like playing games that don't matter, like preseason games, like, it's just silly. So I'm all for cutting it back, letting them train more on their own, and then more regular season games where they actually count a couple of things.
Ethan
Also that will be implemented this year. The dress code has been relaxed, so Evander Kane can show up in a tracksuit.
David Dwork
No bathrobes in South Florida was a big thing last year.
Ethan
Yeah, well, that was in the arena. As far as arriving to the arena, they wore their.
David Dwork
Their Swedish sauna suits.
Adnan Ver
Yeah. But it's home and road rules different. Like, that was for home games.
Ethan
Yeah, that's for home. Yeah.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Ethan
So it's a different board now.
David Dwork
Be fun to see if there's a couple of guys. Something interesting.
Adnan Ver
It's a good way to show. Get guys to show their personalities since.
David Dwork
I know Sarah Sivian.
Ethan
Oh, yeah, she's. I'm sure she's loving this. Also, players can endorse wine and spirits, so you know what that means. And this would probably make Rose very happy that Alexander Barkov can hold up a nice cold shot glass filled with jagermeister Damn, that's cold. Yes. So take a picture of that. All right. So Connor McDavid, in an interview with TSN's Ryan Rashog said, quote, we're trying to find a scenario that works for everybody in terms of my family, my family's security, a deal that makes sense for the team to continue to have success. My belief in the season and the players this year has never been higher.
David Dwork
So how so he's not quite saying what Angel Reese said. Not quite throwing his team and the organization under the bus.
Ethan
No, no. He's trying to. I get.
David Dwork
I don't even know he's hedging his bets for sure. But this is Connor McDavid. This is like the alpha of the NHL. He's on top of the mountain. Nobody's disputing that he's the best hockey player in the world. So whatever he wants to do, teams are going to be lining up to give him what he wants. So it's basically going to come down. Does he want to stay in Edmonton?
Adnan Ver
I think he wants to stay in Edmonton and he has said his intention is to win in Edmonton. Some of the quotes, I don't know. Like, I can't get a read on the situation based off of his quotes. What I expect to happen is he's going to take a three or four year deal short term and kind of say, here's your window. Win now or I'm gone. And if you win, I'll stay forever. And if you don't, I'm going to go to Florida.
Ethan
All right, we'll get more into the CBA talk next week with Greg Brushinski of ESPN. And we will talk more about Connor McDavid, Van and Vork, who's going to come up next. But first, before we get to that, it's time for wins and fails of the week, presented by Jagermeister. Serve a code or don't serve it at all. Jagermeister. Damn, that's code. For more, visit jagermeister.com Drink responsibly. David, what's your win of the week?
David Dwork
My win of the week. I'm throwing out my charitable. Not my charitable arm, but my friendly arm, my hospitable arm. A couple of Canadian teams put out some interesting images this week. One of them of an ice center ice logo. The other one of a new third jersey. We have the Montreal Canadiens putting out a new center ice logo. Very flashy. Very. Look at me, look at me. I like it. It's fine. Whatever.
Ethan
It looks like the inside of the.
Adnan Ver
I was Gonna say, that's the inside of the cup, isn't it?
David Dwork
Yeah, it looks like the inside of the Stanley cup on a record. And then the Senators came out with their third jersey. And again, nothing necessarily wrong with it, it's fine, it's nice, it's cool, whatever. I'm not going to be buying the jersey. I'm not going to be wearing the center ice logo. They don't blow me away. But what does blow me away is that they're taking swings. They're not afraid to put it out there. Say, this is what I like. You can like it if you want. You know, these are teams, what, they both made the playoffs last year. They both had first round exits, but you know, good for them. They're taking swings. I like what they're doing. More teams need to just not be afraid to do whatever the hell they want and see what gets out there artistically. I like it.
Ethan
My winner of the week is the United States Hockey hall of Fame and the names have been released. Scott Gomez is going in. 181 goals, 575 assists and 756 points in his 16 year career. Zach Parise, 434 goals, 455 assists, 889 points in his 19 year career. Joe Pavelski, 476 goals, 592 assists, 1,068 points in his 18 year career. Taramanci was on the United States women's hockey team. They won the first ever gold medal in 1998. That was, that was the big year. That was a. That was. Boy, that team was.
David Dwork
They were stacked.
Ethan
They were stacked, boy. And she also won a silver medal in 2002. And photographer Bruce Bennett, who photographed over 6,000 NHL games in 50 years. Those are the names going in the U.S. hockey hall of Fame.
David Dwork
Fun. Scott Gomez. I was looking up all the guys on Hockey Reference. I got to Scott Gomez. He played what you say, 10, 10, 79 games in the NHL, right? Yeah, 46 of those were for the Florida Panthers. And yet his Hockey Reference picture is him in a Panthers jersey.
Ethan
Of course it is, Ethan. You'll win.
Adnan Ver
Zach Paris, by the way, still being paid by the Minnesota Wild since the.
David Dwork
Last year of that buyout question.
Adnan Ver
I think it is. Anyway, my win of the week, guys. The Seattle Kraken, probably the most boring team in the NHL for being honest. Cool uniforms though. And they just did something. It's a big swing. I'm not sure how cool it will actually look if we can put it on the screen. Here, they made a glow in the dark uniform. It's an all black uniform. And the logo I like. It lights up in glow in the dark. I mean, look, when they're actually playing the game, it's not. The effect's not gonna work. But pre game intros, when they skate on it in the ice, it's gonna look really cool. I think. I think we have another picture as well. The uniform itself is really nice.
David Dwork
I mean, they've done great with their.
Adnan Ver
Their branding is awesome. Like, their. Their logo's great. Their uniforms are awesome. I like their colors. I like the blue and kind of like seafoamy greenish kind of color. These are really cool, though. You want to talk about big swings, David? I have never seen a glow in the dark jersey before, so that's really, really.
Ethan
I mean, the stars came close a.
David Dwork
Cool with the highlighters that they can do for their goaltender In Seattle, they have glow in the dark goalie paint. So you put some of that on your mask to match. To match that jersey. That would look pretty.
Adnan Ver
It'll be interesting to see if they do, like, something. If he does something cool for that.
David Dwork
Yeah.
Adnan Ver
For that game. But, yeah, I think those jerseys are great. Big swing. And I'm all for teams taking big swings as well.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah.
Ethan
All right, David, what's your fail?
David Dwork
Oh, man. My fail of the week is Riley Smith went to a comedy show recently. I think it was in Las Vegas, but it was for comedian Will Burkert. And do we have the audio, Ethan? All right, let's play that, and let's just see what happened with Riley Smith getting heckled at the comedy show.
Adnan Ver
What's your name, sir?
Roy Bellamy
Riley. Are you working during the week?
Adnan Ver
Are you a teacher?
Ethan
I'm not.
Adnan Ver
You're not?
David Dwork
Silly me.
Roy Bellamy
What kind of job do you have?
Adnan Ver
Who do you play hockey for?
Roy Bellamy
Is this like a. How. How high are we?
Adnan Ver
Are we very high?
David Dwork
Everybody in that comedy club is, like, looking at this guy like, dude, you don't know. This is Riley Smith.
Roy Bellamy
I'm not gonna drop the puck. Like, how the. I'm honored that you're here, bro. That's. That's. I just got NER all of a sudden. I don't know why.
Adnan Ver
Oh, man.
Roy Bellamy
Dude, you're really slow playing it.
Ethan
Like, how's work?
Roy Bellamy
It's all right. It's a little chilly when I get to work, but. Do you get recognized a lot?
Ethan
Yeah.
Adnan Ver
He's so mad he got recognized. Look how pissed off he was sitting.
David Dwork
In the front row, like, you know, like, no, no.
Roy Bellamy
How are you Dialing your teeth.
David Dwork
He just pulled out half of his teeth.
Roy Bellamy
How?
Ethan
The front. The front one's still intact.
Roy Bellamy
You have to keep popping them out.
David Dwork
Such a hockey player move, though, like, to take out your teeth at a random time. Like, I feel like I've seen a lot of hockey players retired and current, they're happy to take out their teeth and show them to you.
Ethan
Rule of thumb, never sit in the front row during a comedy show.
David Dwork
Right. I learned that at a Jim Brewer comedy show.
Ethan
Yeah.
David Dwork
I was, like, 23 years old. I got, like, a pina colada for some reason, and, boy, did he let me know about it.
Ethan
Yeah.
David Dwork
What?
Ethan
You got a pina colada. So. Yeah, say that again.
Adnan Ver
Say it the way you said it.
David Dwork
Pina colada.
Ethan
Okay.
David Dwork
Isn't that how you say all right?
Adnan Ver
I thought you said pina colada.
David Dwork
No.
Ethan
Why would he say pina colada?
David Dwork
Drinking male genitalia. Like, what are we talking about here?
Ethan
All right, my fail of the week. I'm gonna disagree with David's win. My fail of the week is this. Not only is the center ice designed in Montreal ugly, the Senators jerseys are bad, too. All right, all right. I feel like this is an addition for edition's sake. It just does not look good. The jerseys are ugly. And also, what are the Hurricanes doing? What are they doing? This is a change for the sake of change. This is worse because it's the road uniforms. This is going to be worn 21 games.
David Dwork
They just blacked out the regular season. The Hurricane logo, Is that what happened?
Ethan
No, there's a couple of other changes to it. I think they changed the font on it. They also changed the sleeves, the bottom.
David Dwork
They actually look kind of Ottawa like, don't they? The sleeves like that?
Ethan
Yeah. Yeah. They did add black. There's no white in the logo on the road. On the. Look on the logo on the. On the jersey. So there's that, too. Ethan, you also agree with me, right?
Adnan Ver
Yeah. My fail of the week is also for the canes. Not necessarily because of these uniforms. I think they're okay. Like, I don't love them so much. My problem with the canes, it's their best uniform is the uniform they never.
Roy Bellamy
Wear, the one with the stick.
Adnan Ver
The red jersey is the best jersey. Yes, the red jersey is the best.
Ethan
So the original home.
Adnan Ver
Yes. The OG home jersey, it's the best jersey in this set.
Roy Bellamy
The.
Adnan Ver
The white one is okay. I hate the red and black logo. They need to have the white in there. And don't even get me started on These stupid home jerseys with the smoky shoulders and the black. I. I hate those uniforms so much. They're. Their red jersey was good. It was one of the better sweaters in the league and they went away from it and I don't know why.
Ethan
All right, Adnan Burk is coming up next. Adnan is on Prime Monday Night Hockey also has a book. It's called Cinefoul. So please go ahead and pick that book up if, if you read. So that'd be nice. Yeah. Oh, oh, you can do that. Just help out a friend and buy the book. And ends.
Roy Bellamy
Next.
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Adnan Ver
Hey, Billy Gill.
Ethan
Hey.
Mike
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Ethan
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Mike
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Ethan
I know, but it was so cold in my hand.
Mike
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Ethan
Oh, man.
Mike
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Ethan
Hell yeah, we fist bumped.
Mike
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Adnan Ver
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Ethan
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Ethan
Dan Amber rode a buck. I mean, congratulations. Cinephile interviews, essays and tales from the red carpet. Pick it up where you buy your books. He's also the host of Prime Monday Night Hockeys in the studio doing things in Canada for Amazon. So doing good. Doing good work. And we are almost, almost there. Hockey season is beginning.
David Dwork
It's September.
Ethan
Yeah, September.
David Dwork
They're coming back this month.
Ethan
Awesome, man, I cannot wait.
David Dwork
I like these fast summers. Maybe keep winning the Stanley Cup, Florida and you know. Yeah, it works for me.
Ethan
Back into action and let's take a look at the national television schedule in the United States. I don't know if this affects you considering that you work on a Canadian based network, but for us it kind of annoys me seeing what, what's here now. The Washington capitals, they have 18 nationally televised games. That's obviously for Alexander Ovechkin's, what could be his final season. The Bruins, Avalanche and red rings have 17 nationally televised games in the states. The Stars all is wild. Rangers and penguins have 16. As you notice, the Rangers and Penguins are there again with a high amount of games even though they missed the playoffs. Obviously that's a market based situation. The Blackhawks, Panthers, Lightning, Golden Knights have 15. And the pants, I'm 15 again. That's the most I've ever seen.
David Dwork
Yeah, that's a lot.
Ethan
Yeah, the Kings fly. And by the way, not a lot of ESPN/exclusives. Might be three.
David Dwork
There's only three. There's only three.
Ethan
So there are a lot of linear television for the Panthers this season. The Kings, Flyers, Blues And Maple Leafs have 14. And that goes all the way down the line. What do you make of that?
Roy Bellamy
So first off, I'm the oldest 47 year old alive because when you say linear television, I get excited. I know. David, I'm the only guy who still has DirecTV. I've had DirecTV. I moved from Canada to go to ESPN in 2010. For 15 years, I've had DirecTV. Every year the price goes in a little bit more because they know everybody else is cutting cable. Oh yeah, little foe game. I call them again. This is outrageous. How much this price is. Sir, we're taking 30% off for the next six months. I'm like, okay, fine, I'll stay with you. So when I hear later tells you great, that means it's on. As Roy would say, espn, abc, tnt, NHL network, where I work. I'm like, yeah, I can flip all these things. So I first off, I like hearing linear tv. I'm the one guy still does that. It's hard to spread the well belt. And I get that. You know, certainly the capitalist thing, I get like you said, Sovechkin, it could be his final year. Get it? Penguin's still major market. Even though I'm with you, we get Crosby fatigue, etc. It always becomes a challenge between, you know, Sean McDonald's. Listen to what's to God, it was great. They're talking about, you know, the worst things that people say to Sean being one of the voices obviously of hockey and espn. And Sean is so funny and so acerbic. He's like, well, probably the worst thing is that everyone tells me that, like, I'm a New York hating douche. That seems to be a common refrain. But he goes, why would I hate the New York Rangers? The New York Rangers rate. If the New York Rangers do well, that's good for me, that's good for business.
Ethan
But the Islanders don't, apparently.
Roy Bellamy
Correct. The Islanders do not rate, the Rangers do. So I think the challenge becomes Roy, for every executive, you go, okay, if you walk into any room in America and go, all right, hockey fan program, what do you want? I want Rangers, Bruins, Penguins, Blackhawks, Flyers, like the major markets, Red Wings. Having said that, as we all know, those teams haven't been successful recently. So do you still want the bigger markets even if they're not playoff teams like Red Wings, how many more years the iser playing can we have? And I think the answer is still yes. I still want those teams because they're going to rate more than, with all respect, even A Vegas, Golden Knights, Panthers. Great teams, but different markets. So I understand your frustration. It's annoying, but it's not surprising in Canada. What do you think they want? It's all Maple Leafs games, Habs games. After that, they go, okay, I guess we'll take the centers. I guess we'll take the flames. It is what it is.
David Dwork
It's like the opposite here in the States, though.
Adnan Ver
I was just going to say this.
David Dwork
Five of the six Canadian teams have zero nationally televised games in the U.S. and then Toronto has 14. Like, I would. I wouldn't mind seeing the Rangers beat up on Montreal. Or, like, you know, I want to see Montreal rivalries.
Adnan Ver
Montreal is a young, exciting team. Lane Hudson, like, they made the playoffs last year. I want to see more Quinn Hughes. Quinn Hughes is an American superstar. There are no Vancouver Canucks games on national television in the United States.
Ethan
And the Senators and Jets are playoff teams. Like, I probably can.
Adnan Ver
The President's Trophy last year. And the Senators have another American superstar. And Brady Tkachuk, a guy I want to watch as an American hockey fan.
David Dwork
Yeah. So they're still going to work out the kinks of this list, basically.
Ethan
I mean, is it because of Amazon prime, why we're not seeing that many Canadian teams nationally, except for the Maple Leafs, obviously, in the United States?
Roy Bellamy
I don't think so. Right. Because with Amazon prime, like, our schedule is just Monday games. So, like Ethan's point, what's the busiest night? It's always Tuesday, Thursdays and Saturdays. Saturday's Hockey night in Canada. Okay, Monday's prime, but, like, Wednesday, you could definitely get a Habs game, whichever American team they're playing. And kind of Ethan's point, because he's a genuine, passionate hockey fan. I've always said that to the Canadian audiences. I go, hey, don't mistake the fact that just because you're Canadian, you just want Canadian teams. As you guys know, I'm a flyer. Doesn't matter where I'm from. Like, I mean, if you like your team, I want storylines, I want compelling games. I would take Capitals, Penguins, even now, veteran Crosby versus, you know, maybe a Battle of Alberta. I mean, that's totally special because it's Calgary, Edmonton, but you guys know what I'm saying. We want the best matches, the best players. You look for that rather than geography. To me, like, anybody who's rooting for geography, I'm like, I don't think you're a real fan. That it? But that's how they think.
Ethan
Explain to me why, on network television for abc, why are There no gains for the defending Stanley cup champion. It doesn't make any sense to me. I. I think the Penguins have six. They didn't make the playoffs.
Roy Bellamy
So hang on a second. There's no Panthers games on abc.
Ethan
I didn't see any. Zero.
Roy Bellamy
That's stunning. But if you win the cup, Roy, at the very least you get the first game. Always thought like, hey Panthers, defending stack of champions. They're going to raise the banner that special and the rematch like no matter what it's like. Okay, well like we knew on Amazon prime when I looked at the schedule, best game of the year was December 8th, 9th. Whatever it was when it was Panthers, Edmonton and Edmonton. So I'm with you. If I maybe see wherever the host broadcaster defending champion, you get at least two. You get rematch of final and first game. Yeah.
Adnan Ver
The Panthers have to raise their banner at 5pm on a Tuesday. Yeah, that's my favorite thing because the Penguins and Rangers have to play at 8pm on opening night. Have to see the tanking Penguins in.
David Dwork
Sidney Crosby and it Bowl.
Roy Bellamy
That's. That's what I'm with you guys. I am pro Panther bias enmity towards.
David Dwork
That's why you're so welcome on the show, Adnan.
Roy Bellamy
I mean but don't you think it makes sense to you like whatever the team is, who's the most. I want to say unpopular team, smallest market. Let's say if the Columbus.
David Dwork
Yeah.
Roy Bellamy
You still get two games. You should get the first game and you raise the cup. The cannons are out and you get a rematch of when you beat whomever.
Ethan
Utah has 11 games on national television. Seattle has six.
Adnan Ver
That's crazy.
David Dwork
It's a mammoth.
Roy Bellamy
This goes back to kind of Ethan's again. If it's an exciting to get it but like, like Utah. Like if you told me like top five most uninspiring team to watch, they might be on there.
David Dwork
Well, there's no superstars in Utah. There's no.
Adnan Ver
That's the thing.
David Dwork
There's the sexy value. It's just not there yet.
Ethan
They're.
Adnan Ver
They're like a dark horse this year. But they don't have any superstar power that I want to watch more than I want to watch Quinn Hughes or Lane Hudson or you know, somebody. Somebody else from one of the. Yeah, Brady.
Roy Bellamy
Also a very uninspiring team. I joke with our buddy John Forson, who's the voice of Amazon prime and he's an awesome job I got, buddy. Like you gotta, you gotta tell Maddie Benirs to pick it up. Like, like if I throw the Seattle cracker. What am I excited to watch here?
Adnan Ver
Anyways, Go ahead, Adnan. I wanted to ask you. We're talking about Canadian teams and Canadian superstars. The hot story around the league right now is the lack of a Connor McDavid extension so far this offseason. He is eligible to sign extension now hasn't happened yet. There's been more and more quotes coming out seemingly every day. Based off what you've seen, what you've heard, how big. If you were an Oilers fan, how big would your level of concern be right now?
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, plutonium level. I mean, this is insane. I mean, I think it's a fascinating topic right now, 1.21 gigawatt style. I mean, it's because I understand all sides. So McDavid says, you know, I don't want some of the money. I want all the money. Let's suppose he's saying that his team market. Whatever you want to say. Okay, I get it, dude. You're the expert in the world. Proven that for so many years. Back to exceedingly come appearances. Okay, whatever that extension could be. If It's a high AAV, two years, 36. If it's something lofty, it's obviously, you know, triple figures. But everyone knows, well, if you swallow that much of the cap and if so much is going towards you and dry sell, etc, yeah, it's your ability to win a winner. So what's most important to you? Getting the most money or building being a winner? And the answer is both. I want the most money and I want to win a Stanley cup. And I deserve the most money because I'm the best player. And you figure out how you're gonna make the rest of the pieces fit.
David Dwork
That's.
Roy Bellamy
I generally think, right, Like. Like that if I make David, I'm like, yeah, I want. I want yes and yes. Like, we're gonna win. And I want all the money.
David Dwork
That's all, man. Just want it all. I want it now.
Ethan
All right. All right. So. So dry side of the dry side is making what, 14 the highest AAV in the league? So basically, Connor McDavid's gonna have to make 14 million in $1.
David Dwork
That's what you said, 14.001.
Roy Bellamy
Well, I just threw a random number from the other. I go two for 36. They go. I go, yeah. I go. Because like, 18 million to me, seems like he's like, all right, I'm significantly better than dry sell. Like, I'm not just like 14:1. I'm not 50. I'm getting 18 million.
David Dwork
That's the statement. That's a hell of a statement. But what where are you building your team if you have.
Adnan Ver
What if 32 million. 32 million and something I saw yesterday is that Zach Hyman I didn't realize it's going to be 34 this year. Nuge is going to be 33 and Matthias Ekholm is going to be 36. There's if you're Edmonton about how long your window is right now?
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, thousand percent but. But the bottom line is this Ethan imagine he leaves like Edmonton as we've all discussed it's not exactly the jewel of the north. Not a whole lot going on Edmonton, there's no Calgary. Right. So Calgary is good town man. By the way no Calgary and Amazon prime while we're venting towards TV partners. But Edmonton I'm like bro if you lose McDavid after you lost Gretzky and you didn't win the Stanley cup at least Gretz left him with four cups. This Messi had five stealing cups. You left with the supposed dynasty McDavid left when you could have afforded him but you pissed him off because you wouldn't give him all the money and you couldn't build a winner like that. That's what McDavid's knows that he's got his play now Edmonton's response Roy would be look it we can't win if we don't have some financial flexibility. This was pre salary cap era in the 80s. This was a long time ago. You can't win cups without players taking a little bit less. We take a bit of a haircut. Do you truly care about winning more than anything else then you don't need the 14 one. We can give you 12, 5 or 13. We'll back end it. There's things we can do. You're going to get money, you just can't get the most money. And by the way you can't do anything right now anyways. Like everyone signed the Friesian class supposed to be good next year, the year after that. So two year high aav as. As Ethan said it's a smaller window now let's win a cup and figure this out.
Adnan Ver
I was going to say it seems like short term deal is what's going to happen for McDavid here and he's going to say you've got this many years and if you don't get it done in this many years I'm going somewhere else in ring chasing. Right, right.
Roy Bellamy
Got to be short enough term. They doesn't Want to take a six year deal because then no one's going to sign McDavid at 34 because he's not going to get the 10 year deal. So you're right, I think it's two or three year deal, which is a hell of a thing you're putting a gun to. Manson said you got two years to figure this out. I'm gone.
Ethan
All right, let's assume none of that happens. Okay. Where's he going?
David Dwork
Florida's gonna make it work. He's gonna. That's the one place you can take less money and it's all good. And it's not because of the friggin tax thing because there's five other teams that he can go to and deal with the tax thing. It's because Florida, it's just not a selfish place. They have made it abundantly clear that they only want to win Stanley Cups. That's it. Take less money. Everybody take. The highest AAV on that team is I think 10.5, Matthew Tachuk.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, that is crazy. My first options were Florida, Tampa, Vegas, warm weather teams like, you know, all the stuff that people are saying, whether it's right or wrong. Like I don't see him going to. Yeah, Dallas. I don't see him going to the Bruins. I don't think he wants to go to the Rangers.
David Dwork
I don't think he's gonna go anywhere. That's like a media cauldron. And like I think if he's making the move, he's gonna go to a comfortable spot.
Roy Bellamy
Correct.
Adnan Ver
That's how he ends up in Toronto. Dave, as we say, he's not going to go to immediate cauldron and then he's going to go to Toronto.
David Dwork
Emotion. No chance. All right, Adnan, I've got something for you. That's from Roy. In my childhood, this. I'm getting off hockey for a second here. This is a commercial that played when we were younger. When you were younger. This song has been burned in my head forever. But I watched it the other day and I found a very interesting hockey nugget. So if we can play it for him and let's see if he can pick it out.
Roy Bellamy
Off in the distance, the game's dragging on. There's strikes on the batter. Some runners are on. But suddenly everyone's looking at me. My mind has been wondering, what could it be?
David Dwork
Edna, do you remember this commercial?
Roy Bellamy
And a baseball falls into my cloud. I play field. It's important. You know, Goldberg. What's Goldberg doing there?
Ethan
The coach was reacting sponsor of League baseball. Pizza Hut welcomes all the kids who make it great.
David Dwork
Oh my God.
Ethan
Wow.
Roy Bellamy
Love that stuff, man. Nice and hokey and sentimental. Nostalgic.
David Dwork
That commercial was on so much back in the day and now there's a Mighty Duck. I think that's so cool.
Roy Bellamy
The fact that Goldberg is in there is pretty remarkable.
David Dwork
I guess he made the rounds as a child actor.
Ethan
All right, Adnan, what movie have you watched recently that you can actually critique?
Roy Bellamy
Roy, you'll love this. Highest to lowest. Spike Lee joint back with Denzel. So I work in Secaucus, New Jersey at Mobile Network and Angel Network is there. I don't often go to the theater there because I don't live there. But. But highest to lowest, as you know, Roy is now streaming available ever Apple TV plus came out a month ago. Was only in select theaters, so I'm not sure. With all respect to. I'm sure it's playing a few theaters, Miami boys and playing a ton of places. I don't think it's playing Sunrise, so to speak. So anyways, real where I live, which is a fairly popular area that not a lot of theaters, but it's playing in Seacockus.
Adnan Ver
All right, no problem.
Roy Bellamy
Opening night, 8 o'. Clock. I'm there, sold out. I'm pissed. I'm like, I can't. Like I'm happy, but I'm pissed. So it took me a little time. And unlike so many people today who go well in four weeks of streaming, I go, no next available opportunity. I'm going to see this movie. So thrilled to see it in theaters. I'm glad everybody who did see it in theaters, if you had the capability, it was good, you know, it wasn't elite. I've seen the original Kurosaw film which upon its base and I rewatch it's called High and Low. It's an all time classic. Great, great film. But there's some joy in seeing Denzel and Spike being reunited. It still has the visual panache the Spike has his great love and reverence for New York City. There's a wonderful set piece in the Kurosawa film. I'll give you a real short synopsis. Denzel plays a music record executive who believes his son is kidnapped that is faced with a moral dilemma when the kidnapper realizes he actually kidnapped the wrong son. The son is his close friend Jeffrey Wright's son, Jeffrey Rykhurst. Great actor. Him and Denzel together. Awesome. What do you do? You still pay the ransom money because it's $17.5 million and you're this executive. Or right now he's hemorrhaging money. Or do you go, hey, sorry, not my problem. It's not my kid. So that's. That's the moral dilemma in the course of them. This is great scene on the train where they got to dump the money off. Spike adapts to today's world. That has a great, great scene. What are they doing? They're going to Yankee Stadium. So Denzel's got the Yankees hat on. Nicholas Turturro scream at the camera. Boston sucks. Boston sucks. They got this great scene, the fortrain. They got to give the money off asap. Rocky shows up. There's a great scene with Denzel and him. Bottom line, it's a good movie. Entertaining, enjoyable. I hope people see it on Apple TV plus, but I really hope I see it in theaters. Great to see Denzel and Spike back together again. And Roy, I kick it to you people saying the best Spike Lee joint with Denzel. I think it's obviously Malcolm X. Yeah. But votes for He Got Game. Mo Better Blues. Obviously. Inside Man's a good movie too. What do you say?
David Dwork
He got game.
Ethan
Do the right thing. The right thing. Second behind Malcolm X. So, yeah.
Adnan Ver
Did you see he recently revealed his name's not Denzel, it's Denzel.
Ethan
Yeah, we knew that. We knew that. Yeah, we knew that. He's been saying that for years now.
David Dwork
Denzel.
Ethan
Denzel. Mom says Patrick certain.
Roy Bellamy
Exactly. Royce. Right. For those who don't know it, because Ethan's right. Everyone knows it. Dad seems obviously Denzel or Denzel. So mom would say Denzel to them both. So to differentiate became Denzel for Denzel Washington. But it is Shorty Adnan.
Adnan Ver
I watched Back to the Future for the first time recently.
Roy Bellamy
Oh, my God. What an event. Okay, please.
Adnan Ver
I watched it.
Roy Bellamy
I lose my head.
Adnan Ver
I flew to Chicago and I was on the flight and I'm like, now's the chance. Now's my chance, my time. I'm not. When else am I going to do it?
David Dwork
And I watched Chicago.
Adnan Ver
It was great.
David Dwork
Of course it's great.
Roy Bellamy
I've told you this before. In my room right now, this office, my movie officer. I have 10 movie posters. I'm looking at taxi drivers you already alienated me on. And right over here is Back to the Future. So one, one for two. Ethan comes through. I love Back the Future. Quentin Tarantino. Forget about me. How about an authority like Quentin Tarantino? He is called Back the Future. A perfect yes. My favorite director, David Right Zemeckis did an amazing Job with it. It's obviously a great script by Bob Gale and Michael J. Fox. My favorite actor is so funny. The comic timing. You know what I always tell people is Back to the Future has the great mix of the science fiction fantasy, a DeLorean 88 miles an hour, but it's got love, it's got heart. What's cooler than being able to go back? Imagine whatever your relationship was with your dad. Imagine go back to your father right now, be in high school with your dad and try to teach him to fall in love with a girl. Like, all those scenes together, they're so perfect and so beautifully done. I, I, you know, I get a little choked up. The scene where, you know, George McFly is talking about, you know, I, because, because Marty's trying to understand his psychology, right? And he's like, why don't you just try to. He's, well, like, I really couldn't take that kind of rejection. Marty goes, yeah, I know what you mean. Like, he almost says, dad. Like, I mean, those scenes are so beautifully done. It's obviously got great humor as well.
Ethan
Cinephile interviews, essays and tales from the red carpet. Please pick that up where you read and buy books. That'd be nice. Antburgh from Prime Monday Night Hockey. Thank you for joining us, Ant.
Roy Bellamy
Listen, I know this segment's over, but we have to keep going. David had a friendly critique, and this is.
David Dwork
I know I was going to save it for the next time because we didn't have time for it today, but. Okay, I'll just try that. I'll just do it right now.
Roy Bellamy
Okay.
David Dwork
You're missing one thing from your book, in my opinion.
Roy Bellamy
Okay.
David Dwork
There's no hockey hook. There was no chat with Russell Crowe about Mystery Alaska. There was no Rob Lowe discussion about Youngblood. Like, that's the one thing that I felt was missing. So it's a friendly critique, but for the sequel, there needs to be a hockey chapter.
Roy Bellamy
I was about to say just like Back to the Future at back future 2. This is excellent advice for why I can convince Mango publishing a sequel up there. Excellent. Excellent. Boy, somebody asked, by the way, great hockey movies. We've discussed it before on the pod. And again, I pumped up the Rocket and Goon, which I know, David, we've talked about before. Great Canadian underrated movies.
David Dwork
Yes. Well, we need to see the Rocket. Roy and I do.
Ethan
Yes.
David Dwork
We still have not found a way to, to watch it yet. Here down in, you know, the toe.
Adnan Ver
Dave, the big toe of Florida, Dave's white whale. Now, is Hank his area so he can talk. Raising Alaska.
David Dwork
Is that what it's called, Raising Alaska?
Adnan Ver
No, no, I'm. I'm combining Raising Arizona. Right?
Ethan
Yeah.
Adnan Ver
Rosary, Alaska.
Ethan
Rosie is asking if you've seen the summer I've turned the summer I turned pretty.
Roy Bellamy
No, I've heard of it, Rosie. Did you like it? I haven't seen it.
David Dwork
She's listening. She's not. Oh, there she is.
Ethan
Her WI fi sucks. I've been making this kids watch. That's great, Rose. Thank you.
David Dwork
That o' Hare Wi fi not really doing so good.
Ethan
No, no.
Roy Bellamy
Somebody Rosie's number so I can text her and find out what she actually said after.
Ethan
Yes, yes, I got you.
Roy Bellamy
All right, thanks so much, guys. Appreciate supporting the book. And by the way, book tour come to Miami. I will see you guys in exactly three months in South Florida.
Ethan
No, I can't wait for you to come down here.
David Dwork
Going to.
Ethan
Well, I can't get drinks, actually.
David Dwork
No, Maybe by then. It's three months away.
Ethan
Yeah. Hopefully we'll see you then at n. Thanks, boys.
Roy Bellamy
Appreciate you.
Ethan
Always thanks to at Nan Ver for joining us. Go get his book, please. So Rosie's not here. Rosie. I believe this is the what this the second week of week two. Yeah.
David Dwork
So she's in Chicago, right?
Ethan
Yeah, she landed in Chicago. Iowa State.
Adnan Ver
Going to Ames Ames, Iowa for Iowa State and Iowa.
Ethan
Yeah. So please, Lucy, take care of our girl because as you remember, last year she got pepper sprayed. So let's not have that happen to her again.
Adnan Ver
She did return to Columbus. No pepper spray in Columbus.
David Dwork
Well, they didn't get on the field this time.
Roy Bellamy
Yeah, true.
David Dwork
They stay.
Adnan Ver
No pepper spray. Hey, it's Rose.
Ethan
Rose is Rose. Rose, how are you doing, Rosie? Rosie has frozen.
Adnan Ver
Popped in from o'. Hare.
David Dwork
Okay, can we put up the fro? Wait, no, she's not frozen. She's not frozen.
Ethan
She looks frozen to me.
Adnan Ver
She's frozen. Yeah, just put up the frozen.
David Dwork
She's moving.
Ethan
Oh, she is moving. Is that the shocker? What are you doing? Oh, no.
David Dwork
What hat is that? The Alaska Rainbow Bears.
Ethan
Oh, no.
Adnan Ver
This is perfect. This is great television. This is great audio as well.
Ethan
And that's. That's awesome. Just don't say anything, Rosie. All right.
Adnan Ver
We love you, Rose. Enjoy Alaska.
David Dwork
I don't have a microphone.
Ethan
All right. For Ethan and Jason and Gino, that's David Dwork. My name is Roy Bellamy. This was the hockey show. We will see you guys next week. Thank you for listening and watching. We're almost there. Hockey season is about to get started. Soon with training camp and the preseason cannot wait. So see you guys next week.
Adnan Ver
Go Gators.
Ethan
God damn it.
Mike
Hey, listeners, it's Mike.
Adnan Ver
Hey, Billy Gill.
Ethan
Hey.
Roy Bellamy
Hey, Billy.
Mike
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Ethan
Oh, yeah. Fishtail palms.
Mike
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Adnan Ver
I know, but it was so cold in my hand.
Mike
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Ethan
Hell yeah, we fist bumped.
Mike
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Ethan
Sound, but bam, boom.
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Date: September 5, 2025
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Roy Bellamy, David Dwork, Ethan
Featured Guest: Adnan Virk
This episode of The Hockey Show dives deep into recent sweeping changes to the NHL's Collective Bargaining Agreement (CBA), examines their impact on teams and players, and explores Connor McDavid's contract situation with the Edmonton Oilers. The panel also critiques new NHL uniforms, debates national TV schedule fairness, celebrates new U.S. Hockey Hall of Fame inductees, and closes with film recommendations and lighthearted banter.
This episode, true to The Hockey Show’s form, blends hard hockey analysis (CBA, salary cap, McDavid) with Florida Panthers pride, irreverent humor, and sidebars into pop culture. The guest spot by Adnan Virk adds sharp industry insight. If you care about the NHL’s evolving landscape, why certain teams get national attention, or are just debating whether the Senators’ new threads are hot or not—this is an essential, fast-moving listen.