The Pitch Clock: Baseball Is a Winter Sport

Summary

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The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: The Pitch Clock: Baseball Is a Winter Sport
Date: December 12, 2025

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Overview

Live from the Elser Hotel in Downtown Miami, this episode of "The Pitch Clock" brings the show’s signature blend of sports analysis, pop-culture banter, and irreverent trivia competition. Hosts Jeremy, Chris, Ethan, and returning baseball expert Adnan Virk break down the 2025 MLB Winter Meetings—highlighting blockbuster contracts, under-the-radar signings, and the fallout for teams like the Mets and Phillies. The show is split into two key components: a creative, stats-based baseball trivia draft, followed by a wide-ranging conversation about MLB’s biggest winter moves and what to expect heading into 2026.

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Key Segments & Timestamps

1. Pitch Clock Trivia Draft

Starts at 00:30

• Game Mechanics: Inspired by a listener submission, the draft involves selecting seven MLB players; for each, subtract their career RBI from their career stolen base total. The goal: end up with the highest positive number.
• Notable tension/banter: Frequent teasing about strategy (“Chris’s strategy seems to just be fast Marlins…” – Jeremy, 10:47), and humorous meanderings about baseball’s less-celebrated speedsters.

Memorable Quotes

• “I have a guy that was in the league, I think, only to steal bases.” – Jeremy (03:08)
• “Just drawing blanks, man. I’m trying to picture guys like, just sliding into second” – Chris (11:07)
• “Finding the name, better than sex.” – Jeremy (21:47)

Standout Moments & Results

• Legendary Gaffe: Confusion over which Billy Hamilton is 3rd in all-time steals—19th-century HOFer or modern speedster—leads to a deeply Le Batard Show moment (18:24-19:10).
• Buzzer Beater Outcome: Chris ultimately wins the draft, after a wild scoring fluctuation—celebrated for simply retrieving the right player name (21:41-21:47).

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2. Winter Meetings Recap: Big Splash Signings

Adnan Virk Interview begins at 05:54

Major Topics

• Kyle Schwarber to Phillies: 5 years, $150M

• Pete Alonso to Orioles: 5 years, $155M

  • “I think it’s Pete Alonso…because if you look at their first base position, they were dead last in home runs and RBIs a season ago.” – Adnan Virk (05:51)
  • Alonso’s reliability and durability get an amusing aside: “He had his wife schedule the C-section at midnight just so he could play the game that night because this guy does not want to miss any baseball games.” – Adnan Virk (06:03)

• Implications for Orioles: Instant injection of middle-of-order power, further legitimizing their youthful roster.

• Mets Fallout:

  • Lost Pete Alonso and Edwin Diaz (now a Dodger, 3 years, $69M)
  • Clubhouse confusion and fan frustration (“My neighbor’s muttering right now as he gets rid of the leaves…what’s going on with these Mets?” – Adnan Virk, 07:45)
  • Questionable reliever investments and unintended symbolism (“…the back page of the Post: ‘The day the music died,’ of course, in reference to Timmy Trumpet, Edwin Diaz”—Adnan Virk, 09:13)

Further Insights

• Mets expected to chase Kyle Tucker (09:30); conversation pivots to broader free agency trends and the changing economics of reliever contracts.

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3. Moves That Didn’t Happen & Underrated Deals

Starts at 14:18

• Kyle Tucker:
  • Still unsigned; Jays and Mets heavily interested.
  • “I thought Kyle Tucker would get done…teams are skittish about these long-term deals. There’s a better chance of a higher AAV in short years.” – Adnan Virk (14:26)
• Stephen Matz: Modest $15M deal, but seen as a quietly important move.
• Kyle Finnegan to Tigers: Praised as a depth addition to your Tigers’ rotation—Finnegan “can be a decent number three, number four for that team.” – Adnan Virk (15:33)

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4. Blockbuster Trade Rumors & What’s Next

Starts at 16:21

• Nationals:
  • Shopping young pitchers Mackenzie Gore and C.J. Abrams; sign they may retool after Juan Soto trade did not pan out as hoped.
• Ketel Marte:
  • Red Sox and Blue Jays rumored to be very “in” on acquiring him.
• San Diego Padres:
  • “Never count out AJ Preller…could still have a whopper on his hands.” – Adnan Virk (17:58)
  • Despite rumors, Fernando Tatis Jr. is not on the block.

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5. Meta-Trivia & Show Humor

Throughout, but especially 18:24–22:00

• Extended confusion over “Billy Hamilton” stats offers a perfect summation of the show’s balance of deep baseball nerdery and comedic self-sabotage.
• “Who would have thought there’s another Billy Hamilton.” – Chris (22:00)

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Notable Quotes:

• “He’s number one in scoops in the National League. He can slug, and he’s going to do that at Camden Yards.” – Adnan Virk on Pete Alonso (06:29)
• “I still should have picked Augustine Ramirez.” – Jeremy, after an ill-fated final trivia pick (21:13)
• “Finding the name, better than sex.” – Jeremy, on the joy of digging deep for trivia (21:47)

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Tone & Style

As always, The Dan Le Batard Show is equal parts earnest baseball discussion and spontaneous, absurdist sports trivia—never afraid to show its homework or make a joke at its own expense. The warmth between panelists, the live hotel setting, and the playful nicknaming/teasing of Adnan Virk cement this special as both informed and off-the-cuff.

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For Listeners Who Missed It

This is a must-stream if you love the numbers behind baseball, the absurdities of sports, and the particular magic of Le Batard’s blend of banter and insight. While the episode leans heavy into baseball off-season moves, there’s plenty here for trivia junkies and fans of the show’s rapid-fire, pop-culture-charged repartee.

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Transcript

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[Adnan Virk]

Let's drive.

[Jeremy]

It's the wintertime. You know what that means. Baseball, right? Welcome to the Pitch Clock. Here's the Pitch, a two part baseball segment combining a nostalgic baseball trivia game and an interview with an expert. This is the Pitch Clock. Bet you didn't expect to see us right now.

[Chris]

Hi, everybody.

[Jeremy]

Pitch Clock.

[Chris]

Yeah, we're here. We've been renewed.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Chris]

For one episode.

[Jeremy]

For an episode.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Jeremy]

Much we know.

[Chris]

Season three.

[Jeremy]

It's yes.

[Adnan Virk]

Wow.

[Chris]

How about that? Look at us.

[Jeremy]

It's the winter meetings and we wasted your time because we're going to talk to Adnan Vir about everything that happened. Well, I won't. All right, so I will. I'll talk to Adnan Vir soon about everything that was going on in the winter meeting, starting with the big Kyle Schwarber contract and continuing on through last night. But first and foremost, you know what we got to do? This is the Pitch Clock. We got to play some trivia. Yes, Ethan, what's our trivia this week?

[Ethan]

Suggestions suggestion comes from or this week's game comes from a suggestion that we received on Blue Sky. Shout out to Andrew Story. Yeah, Blue Sky. Who came up with this awesome idea that I'm really excited about. We're going to use exactly what Andrew suggested, which is we're going to draft a team of players and what we're going to do is you're going to add up. You're going to subtract their career RBI total from their career stolen base total. What you want to be searching for here is guys that sold a lot of bases but that it didn't necessarily drive in a lot of runs because you don't want to end up with negative numbers. You obviously want to end up with positive numbers.

[Chris]

Wait, I'll keep it at four going stolen bases minus RBI.

[Ethan]

Correct. Stolen bases minus RBIs.

[Chris]

I. RBI.

[Ethan]

RBI.

[Jeremy]

RBI.

[Ethan]

RSBI.

[Jeremy]

RSBI.

[Ethan]

RSBI. So each player I'LL I'll add up the total at the end. Whoever has the best total at the end, you will win.

[Jeremy]

Who goes first?

[Ethan]

You won the season last season.

[Jeremy]

I did.

[Ethan]

Jeremy, tee us off and it will for the rest of the season. We'll just do. Whoever won the last game will go first.

[Jeremy]

Terrific. Lou Brock.

[Ethan]

Lou Brock has 938 career stolen bases and 900 career RBI. That is a total of 38 points.

[Chris]

38 for Jeremy. Kill the O Varys.

[Ethan]

He has 183 career stolen bases and 239 RBI.

[Chris]

Damn.

[Ethan]

So Cody is starting game in a negative. So this could be fun, guys, because we could bounce him. Yeah, big way.

[Jeremy]

We're going to end both negative.

[Ethan]

What there 56. Look at that, Cody. All right, you're off to a start.

[Jeremy]

I've got a guy that was in the league, I think, only to steal bases.

[Ethan]

Raul Mondesi Jr. Adelberto Mondesi had 133 career stolen bases and 157 RBI. That is minus 24 for Jeremy. Really.

[Chris]

Trying to think of, like, just guys that were just pinch runners. I mean, I have a couple names here, but I just know these guys. Guys have more RBI than stolen bases.

[Ethan]

I wouldn't over complicate it.

[Jeremy]

Okay, that's a hint.

[Chris]

D. Gordon.

[Jeremy]

It's a good one.

[Ethan]

That's a great shot. Let me really good one, D. Gordon. 336 career stolen bases, 236 RBI game. Exactly 100 more. Which means, Cody, you are back in the ball game.

[Jeremy]

You're at 44 now.

[Ethan]

Yeah, and I'm at 14.

[Jeremy]

All right.

[Chris]

I feel better about where I'm at. Oh, we're drafting how many players?

[Jeremy]

We're doing seven, so we've each got five left. I. Oh, man, this is tough. Okay, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go with Dave Roberts. When I think stolen bases, I think his one stolen base in that championship series.

[Ethan]

Nice job, Jeremy. Nice pull here. 243 stolen bases, 213 RBI. That is plus 34 now.

[Jeremy]

We're exactly t now.

[Ethan]

Wow, that's impressive.

[Chris]

I could just picture this guy. Oh, all right. I can't think of right now. I'll get him on the next. Go Juan Pier.

[Jeremy]

Oh, no.

[Ethan]

Those.

[Chris]

I wrote down. D. Gordon. Kilis and Juan. Now I'm tapped.

[Jeremy]

All right.

[Ethan]

614 stolen bases, 517 RBIS.

[Chris]

Oh, God.

[Adnan Virk]

So that's plus what?

[Jeremy]

Plus 97. All right, so we've still got one more episode here in 2025. And so it's our 2025 Major League Baseball expert Adnan Virk back with us. Yes, he will transition into being our 2026 expert, but that's not until next month. We've got him here. He was just in Orlando for the winter meeting, so he's the perfect person to break things down. Adnan, welcome back. For season two and a half, we'll say of the pitch clock and I want to get right into it, the two big signings of the winter meetings were Kyle schwaber signing his five year, $150 million deal with the Philadelphia Phillies and Pete Alonzo leaving the National League east for the American league East. A five year, $155 million deal with the Baltimore Orioles, cashing in after his one year deal with the Mets last year. Adnan, which signing means more?

[Adnan Virk]

I think it's Peter Launch of the Baltimore Orioles because if you look at their first base position, they were dead last in home runs and RBIs a season ago. And this was an Orioles team that we thought Jeremy for years to come had this great young nucleus they were going to contend. Then last year they were dead last. The AL east to go. Wow. Now you signed Pete, who no matter what you penciled, he's 40 home runs and 100 RBIs and he plays 162. Last year he played 162 games both times. Matter of fact, John Hayman told me this nugget, which I didn't know. He had his wife schedule the C section at midnight just so he could play the game that night because this guy does not want to miss any baseball games. I didn't know that. I said it's crazy. So I think for Baltimore, it's a massive move. It proves that, hey, we needed power and we got it. Between warden Alonso, that's 70 plus home runs. They still need pitching, but apparently they're in on Farmer Valdez. So David Rubenstein took over as the owner in 2004. This is his first big splash. It's his first big signing since the Chris Davis trade. As far as orioles are concerned, $161 million that Davis signed, which didn't work out well. But I think for Peter Lonzo, it's great, man. I mean, I'm really happy for him. I think he offers even more reason to be compelled by the American League east. And he fills the natural void. And people talk about his defense. Sure, his arm's not great, his range isn't great, but his scoops are awesome. He's number one in scoops in the National League. He can slug and he's going to do that at Camden Yards.

[Jeremy]

The dude can rake. And that's really ultimately what matters, particularly for the Orioles, who needed that bat in the middle of their lineup to help everyone else continue to thrive in this cord that they've been building. Cool to see them not, not just punt on that because of a down season. Also in on conversations regarding Edward Cabrera. So we'll see what happens with the pitching staff there. But just a quick follow up to that, Adnan, because obviously what this means is now the Mets have lost two key key pieces here. Edwin Diaz going to the dodgers on a three year, $69 million deal. Pete Alonso leaving. What is your reaction to this when it comes to the New York Mets, who we know to be big spenders?

[Adnan Virk]

Yeah, I was just talking to my neighbor who's muttering right now as you get rid of the leaves, go like, well, what's going on These Mets here? Like, it's unbelievable. I didn't think the Mets would be the ones directly responsible for all the winter meetings conversation. But first off, Diaz, that was a stunner. I made three years, $69 million. I thought he was going to get like a five year deal for $100 million. Apparently I was way off on this and I couldn't believe The Mets offered three years, 66. Like they were right there. Like, why even bother the $3 million. But I guess that's Diaz's way of saying, hey, it's not about the money necessarily. I just want to go to LA and try to win a World Series. Apparently he wasn't crazy about the fact that they signed Devin Williams without consulting him, which I guess this is today's modern era baseball player. You got to let a guy know. I don't think that's a Mets problem. Personally, I'm like, well, you want to sign Devil Williams, go for it. Three years, $51 million. So I guess from that perspective, you know, between 51 for Devin Williams, 69 for Edwin Diaz, would you really give $120 million to two relievers as good as those guys can be? So Stearns has a relationship with Devin Williams, clearly feels like he can get back to being that guy he was with the Brewers. But that was genuinely surprising because Diaz has been so effective. I think we always hear Jeremy about closers that are, they're very volatile. But like Diaz, aside from one freak injury, the WBC is about as automatic as it gets. I think that's a huge upgrade for the Dodgers. Critical move by la. Their biggest weakness was their bullpen now they got the best closer who was out there in the market. For the Mets, you now got rid of three of their most popular guys. Diaz, Pete Alonso and Brandon Nimmo, who is traded to Marcus Simmons, who will help their defense, but offensively has some issues. So there's a lot of frustration right now in New York. I think the back page of the post of the day the music died, of course, in reference to Timmy Trumpet, Edwin Diaz. So it's. It's a bit of a head scratcher right now for the Mets. I would think they're gonna have to go sign Kyle Tucker. I think him and the Jays are like the Jays in the Mets by the biggest ones in on Tucker and obviously get some pitching help as well. But for a team that was 83 and 79, you just lost three pretty important pieces. That's really disappointing right now in Queens.

[Jeremy]

All right, well, I'm just gonna do it and I might seriously regret it. Ricky Anderson.

[Ethan]

You're not gonna regret this one, J. I'm not.

[Chris]

I gotta be close, though.

[Adnan Virk]

He.

[Chris]

He was a good hitter. He's a great hitter.

[Ethan]

I bet you it's just.

[Jeremy]

And there's all those lead off. There's all those leadoff home runs.

[Chris]

I bet it's gonna be close.

[Jeremy]

I feel like it has to. I mean, he's the all time stolen base.

[Ethan]

Ricky Henderson has 1406 career stolen bases.

[Jeremy]

All right.

[Chris]

Okay, that's not.

[Ethan]

That's only half the battle. 11, 15 RBI and the game is over, folks.

[Jeremy]

Oh, no, you say that. There's a lot of time for me to get.

[Ethan]

That is 291.

[Jeremy]

All right, so that means I am at plus 335.

[Ethan]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

So it's 335 to 141 as Chris goes for his fourth pick after this.

[Chris]

Chuck Carr.

[Adnan Virk]

Oh, Chucky Carr.

[Jeremy]

I like Chuck Carr.

[Adnan Virk]

As an answer.

[Chris]

That guy probably didn't have 300 stolen bases in his career, let alone.

[Jeremy]

That's a fun one.

[Ethan]

Cody's just digging around in fast Marlin. Dude, I love it. CHUCKY Carr had 144 stolen bases and 123 RBI. So, you know, 21 there, Cody.

[Jeremy]

All right, well, since Chris's strategy seems to just be fast Marlins, I'll take Luis Castillo.

[Ethan]

Oh, all right. Oh, 370 stolen bases doesn't sound good. To 443 are.

[Jeremy]

God damn it. See, I told you. I let you right back in the game.

[Chris]

Just drawing blanks, man. I'm like trying to picture guys like stolen base guys just sliding into second like I'm just trying to like, visualize, like stolen base guys.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. You just reminded me of another one.

[Chris]

See, just saying popping up in this, like, I. There's so many guys.

[Adnan Virk]

Why do I keep.

[Chris]

Want to say Ryan Langerhans. He definitely didn't steal any base off.

[Adnan Virk]

It's like, get.

[Chris]

Get out of my head. Name I got.

[Ethan]

I just love the name Ryan Langerhans.

[Adnan Virk]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

I've got three guys on my list right now, and you're not gonna get to see any.

[Chris]

This guy definitely is gonna be a negative, but I'm. My pitch clock is ending here and I have to say a name. Chone Figgins. Ooh.

[Jeremy]

I don't know that you're. I think that's a really, really good answer.

[Ethan]

Stole 341 career bases.

[Chris]

I had like 600.

[Ethan]

540 career RBI.

[Chris]

And I'm just.

[Adnan Virk]

No.

[Chris]

So I am into the negative now.

[Ethan]

Oh, God.

[Chris]

It's a good run.

[Jeremy]

Sorry. How about this one? Jose Reyes.

[Chris]

No, not too bad hitter. I'm gonna say he stole a lot of bases, but I bet he has more rbi.

[Ethan]

I know.

[Jeremy]

I'm worried about it.

[Chris]

He was like an 80, 90 homer, like RBI guy.

[Jeremy]

Oh, no way.

[Chris]

70 at least he was a lead off hitter. I bet. I Bet you had multiple.

[Adnan Virk]

65.

[Chris]

70.

[Jeremy]

Maybe 65, 70.

[Chris]

How many bases you see on 40?

[Adnan Virk]

No.

[Jeremy]

60.

[Chris]

30.

[Ethan]

I'm looking at it now. It looks like his career high in RBI is 58.

[Jeremy]

Okay.

[Adnan Virk]

Good job.

[Chris]

Sorry.

[Jeremy]

I feel good.

[Ethan]

68.

[Jeremy]

60. Ah, damn.

[Chris]

What I said.

[Jeremy]

Yeah. No, now it's exactly right. Oh, oh, oh.

[Ethan]

Jeremy.

[Adnan Virk]

Oh, no.

[Ethan]

Jose reyes.

[Jeremy]

Oh, no.

[Ethan]

Marlin. 517 career stolen basis.

[Jeremy]

This is not good.

[Ethan]

719 career RBI minus.

[Jeremy]

So I'm now at 60 flat. See, he's right back in it.

[Chris]

All right, Chris, your sixth pick.

[Adnan Virk]

Man.

[Ethan]

There's just this one guy.

[Chris]

There's just this one guy that is just at the tip of my brain.

[Jeremy]

It's a 97 point capital right now, which literally anything could happen. Absolutely. Got it.

[Chris]

Boom.

[Jeremy]

Billy Hamilton.

[Ethan]

Oh, this is a good shout.

[Chris]

I don't even know if he played for the Mariners, but I was just like, who is this red center fielder?

[Adnan Virk]

Oh, thank you.

[Chris]

I have been looking for.

[Ethan]

What a fine dude.

[Chris]

I have been looking for that name. You just won my last three guesses.

[Jeremy]

It's over. It's over. Just. That's got to be a plus.

[Adnan Virk]

200.

[Ethan]

Just for context. Billy Hamilton. It's third all time. I cannot believe this actually. Stolen base, third all time.

[Jeremy]

Stolen.

[Ethan]

No, he's not I can't believe he played long enough. Like I knew he came into the league. It's like this guy's gonna steal 100 bases.

[Jeremy]

We have learned a lot of stats on the course of this show over three years. That is the most surprising thing I've learned is that Billy Hamilton is third all time in solar bases. That's crazy.

[Ethan]

So he is. He is third behind Lubrock. Just give us 912.

[Jeremy]

It's over. Yeah, I'm, I'm screwed.

[Ethan]

He had 736 career RBI.

[Jeremy]

Wow, that's more than I thought. How long did Billy Hamilton play?

[Ethan]

Dude, I cannot believe these.

[Adnan Virk]

These.

[Ethan]

So what is that?

[Chris]

That's plus.

[Jeremy]

Oh man.

[Ethan]

176. Wait, we have a problem.

[Adnan Virk]

Oh my God. Oh my God.

[Jeremy]

What is it? As we look at the rest of the action. What? What's something that didn't happen that surprised you the most, Admin?

[Adnan Virk]

Well, Tucker was the big one because I kept hearing the Jays are really aggressive in on him and the numbers. It's interesting. Originally it's not $400 million and you go, ah, it's too much money. Like listen, Kyle Tucker is a really good player, but I don't know if he's a superstar. He's a star player. Like he's a pretty all star. I don't know if he's a superstar. So I at one point thought 12 for 360. You know, you get $30 million a year. But it seems like more of these teams are skittish about giving these long term deals. There's a better chance of a higher AAV in short years. So even now he's. Oh God, here we go again. The Dodgers could give Tucker like a Bregman type deal. The Red Sox did three years for $120 million, $40 million a year for Kyle Tucker. But it's not big years. It's only three years and they'll defer figure it out. So you go, oh my God, that might happen. So I thought Tucker would get done. I just thought Toronto seems really aggressive. They've obviously already signed Dylan cease for 7 and 2 10. Now the Mets have lost these guys. Maybe that will up the bidding a little bit. But I thought Kyle Tucker was going to go at the winter meetings and I still think Toronto is a spot. I think the Jays are really high on him.

[Jeremy]

So those are, are the moves that didn't happen. We're talking about some splashy names here, but what's one of the under the radar moves that you saw that you go hey, that's going to have a big impact.

[Adnan Virk]

Yeah. You know, a couple of pitchers. Stephen Matt's got a couple year deal. You know, he's still going $15 million there. And I also think that Kyle Finnegan, for your tigers, two years, $19 million. You know, the big one out there is, what if Derek Scuba gets traded to the Dodgers? And you go, oh, my God, it would just be just bananas. You couldn't even imagine it. Right. Scubal is going to be a free agent after this year. He's going to get a $300 million contract. I don't know if it's going to happen or not. Scott Harris, by the way, the Tigers president, was on our set and he said, no one's untouchable. So, like, you know, read that line. He did not say Derek Skubel is untouchable. No one's untouchable. We listen on everybody. But Finnegan's a guy who I do think is a good pitcher. I think he can offer some more depth in that rotation, which was a concern. Right. Too often you look at and you go, okay, it's Scubal and who else? So Finnegan's a guy I do think gives him a little bit of a veteran experience and it can be a decent number three, number four for that Tigers team.

[Jeremy]

You were around everything in Orlando. You're probably hearing all the different rumors and everything popping up. What are you looking forward to next here in this offseason before we end up chatting again in the next month or so?

[Adnan Virk]

Well, there was a great segment by producer Sam Wilde, and it was called spend the change or make the exchange. Meaning oftentimes you just think about signing all these guys. You can also trade for a lot of players as well. So the ones that I think are interesting is the Nationals. Look at their shopping. Mackenzie Gore, who is, I think, a terrific young pitcher, was part of that Juan soto trade. And C.J. abrams, who you thought in some ways was the centerpiece of the trade, but he hasn't worked out that well. That would be a bit of a sell low. Like, I think people are like, not really high on CJ Abrams as much as they were a couple years ago. And James Wood now looks like the centerpiece that Soto trade. So I'm curious, the Nationals now with. With new, you know, management there, those guys took over Midway over for. For Mike Rizzo. I wouldn't be surprised. Mackenzie Gore or C.J. abrams gets dealt in a blockbuster. I also think Catal Marte's been a lot of talk Jeremy around him Red Sox are really in on Marte. The Blue Jays are in on Marte, so I feel like that one is gaining some steam. I definitely heard a lot around that and I wouldn't be surprised. The Padres don't make a whopper. Kevin Asu covers the Padres for the San Diego Union Tribune and We talked to AJ Casavel who covers the [e-mail] he said, like where there's smoke, there's fire. There's rumors that Predator is trying to make a Juan Soto type trade. But they also said Tatis isn't involved. So I looked at the numbers and I go, well, I don't know if you're going to trade Machado in that many dollars. Bogart's contracts untradeable, so maybe that's a Jackson Merrill who's a nine year, $135 million contract. You know the other guys like you can't trade you. Darvish, he's out till 2027. Still a big money so you can never count out AJ Preller. He still could have a whopper on his hands.

[Jeremy]

He almost always does. No matter what's going on. I'm obviously down here intrigued to see what those moves end up being for the Miami Marlins. We shall see. We'll keep everyone posted both on the main show and right here on the pitch clock. Adnan Vir, thank you so much for being with us. And yes, you will officially move into 2026 MLB expert territory the next time we speak. Enjoy your holidays. Adnan.

[Ethan]

There's another Billy Hamilton that's third all time in career stall.

[Chris]

How do you know which one? How do you know which one? How do you know you.

[Ethan]

I clicked on his pro. I clicked on his profile on fangirls.

[Jeremy]

You dare try to insinuate. Hold on, hold on.

[Chris]

So he has 300 soul bases in like 20 RBI. Like this could end up I clicked.

[Ethan]

On the old timey Billy Hamilton's so.

[Chris]

I'm erasing my this guy was like.

[Ethan]

A certified hall of Famer. 70 career war 142. He played 140.

[Chris]

All right, give me the right Billy Hamilton.

[Ethan]

Yeah, 88.

[Chris]

All right, give me the right Billy.

[Jeremy]

The right Billy Hamilton.

[Ethan]

He had 326 career stolen bases and 189 career.

[Chris]

Okay, so similar.

[Jeremy]

Basically the same. Let's set the table. I'm plus 60, Chris.

[Chris]

Plus 100.

[Adnan Virk]

Wow.

[Jeremy]

What a plus 100.

[Chris]

Billy Hamilton.

[Jeremy]

I can't believe this. All right, Kenny Lofton.

[Ethan]

Kenny Lofton is 15th all time in stolen bases. He has 622 career stolen bases. The only problem is he's a lot of RBIs. He has 781 career.

[Jeremy]

Well, it's over.

[Ethan]

It's not necessarily over.

[Adnan Virk]

Oh, it is.

[Jeremy]

Oh, it's over.

[Ethan]

No, it's not.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, it's over. Oh, it is, because you're gonna. Well, I know what you're gonna do. I know what I would do.

[Chris]

Yeah, I know what I would do, too. All right. I'm gonna go with Sandy Alcantar.

[Jeremy]

Yep. I knew it. I knew it. That's exactly what I would have done. No, he's.

[Chris]

No, it's okay.

[Jeremy]

It's okay. I get it.

[Ethan]

No, it's all the spirit of the game.

[Jeremy]

Not in the spirit of the game.

[Chris]

No, he's going. Some bases I genuinely shot.

[Ethan]

No, no. First time I'm ever making a ruling here. I am the game maker. You're drafting a position player.

[Jeremy]

I'm not gonna.

[Ethan]

You're not drafting a pitcher. You're drafting a position player. Not the spirit of the game.

[Chris]

That.

[Ethan]

The great.

[Jeremy]

Still know what? I would if I were you.

[Ethan]

Now, you can do something similar where you can take a guy that had three career at bats or something. Hey, no pitchers.

[Chris]

Why would you give him advice?

[Ethan]

Give me a guess. Give me a. Give me a real guess.

[Chris]

Since you're doing this to me. I get time here.

[Adnan Virk]

That's fine.

[Chris]

You're up 200.

[Ethan]

That's fine.

[Jeremy]

Someone who's barely played.

[Ethan]

This is the spirit of the rule.

[Adnan Virk]

You think?

[Chris]

I know current baseball.

[Ethan]

Pick someone.

[Jeremy]

Anyone.

[Chris]

Let me just. All right, Just pick Crow Armstrong.

[Jeremy]

Okay. Yeah, great. Pete Crow Armstrong.

[Ethan]

I'm cool with that.

[Adnan Virk]

I know.

[Chris]

How many years?

[Jeremy]

Pretty funny.

[Chris]

It'd be pretty funny. Is he a rookie?

[Ethan]

This past year, Pete had 35 career stolen bases. This year he's got 64 for his career. And he's got 143 RBI.

[Jeremy]

Oh, man, that was way closer than it should have been. So I still should have picked. Yeah, you should have picked Augustine Ramirez. All right. Can I. I just want.

[Adnan Virk]

Oh, what a game.

[Jeremy]

That was great.

[Adnan Virk]

Do the math.

[Chris]

Let's make sure.

[Jeremy]

That's a hell of an off season game. This isn't going to count toward the standings, but see where I ended up at?

[Ethan]

Chris is obviously the winner. Chris scored 21 points. What a roller coaster that was. To get back to 21. Negative 79 on the last answer. 21 to negative 21. And Jeremy, in a roller coaster, he picked the greatest stolen base guy of all time. Finishes with negative 99, we just give.

[Chris]

It up for Cody Hamilton.

[Jeremy]

You know what?

[Ethan]

Our winner meetings.

[Jeremy]

That was better.

[Chris]

Give it up for the feeling of finding the name.

[Jeremy]

Finding the name better than sex.

[Ethan]

Well, dude, when I thought you had the great, the third greatest stolen face artist of all time, we believed you.

[Chris]

We were like. We were like, he might be.

[Jeremy]

I said that that was the greatest piece of trivia we've learned in the last three years.

[Chris]

Who would have thought there's another Billy Hamilton.