The Show's 'In Memoriam' For The World Cup | Hour 2

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show

Episode: The Show's 'In Memoriam' For The World Cup | Hour 2

Date: July 17, 2026
Location: Live from the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

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Overview

This episode blends the signature humor, nostalgia, and irreverent sports commentary of Dan Le Batard and his crew as they bid a playful “in memoriam” to the 2026 FIFA World Cup, discuss sports culture moments, dive into NBA off-season intrigue, and riff on viral internet content. The show covers emotional soccer moments, quirky internet stories, and local South Florida sports touchstones—all with the group’s familiar chemistry and comedic flair.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Samuel Henderson: The 12-Year-Old Bird Call Prodigy

• [00:41–03:35]
  • Jeremy introduces Samuel Henderson, a 12-year-old Oklahoman whose uncanny ability to mimic bird calls has gone viral.
  • The crew plays one of Samuel’s videos, reacting with awe to his talents.
  • Dan Le Batard: “I just watched Lionel Messi play soccer, and that's the most impressive thing I've seen this week. He is unbelievable.” [03:13]
  • Tony: “The crow was spot on.” [03:36]

Notable Quote:

“Worth the toast is presented by Cuervo. Keep it fun. Keep it Cuervo. That is one of the most…impressive things I’ve seen this week.”
— Dan Le Batard [03:04]

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2. Messi, Bellingham, and Memorable World Cup Moments

• [04:09–09:41]
  • Dan describes tense and viral moments from the Argentina-England World Cup matchup, including on-field banter between Jude Bellingham and Rodrigo de Paul, and an odd celebration by Argentina sub Valentín Barco who sprints solo onto the pitch.
  • Debate on soccer’s unique culture around victory celebrations and physicality.
  • Zaslow: “It's just bizarre behavior…for people steeped in American sports, you would never see that.” [07:28]
  • Language barriers, banter with Messi, and the psychological gamesmanship on the World Cup stage are dissected.

Memorable Moment:

“He [Barco] just runs on his own across the middle of the field, jumping up and down and celebrating. Mike, you're telling me that's normal?”
— Dan Le Batard [06:16]

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3. Is Messi the ‘GOAT of all GOATs’?

• [10:11–12:35]
  • The crew weighs Lionel Messi’s greatness in the context of broader sports.
  • Jonathan Zaslow advocates for updating superlatives: “We gotta start saying that's a Tom Brady a blank.” [10:53]
  • Discussion around Ballon d’Or odds and the difficulty of winning major accolades outside Europe, with Messi possibly redefining legacy at age 39.

Notable Quote:

“The greatest athlete of all time, the most dominant athlete of all time, if he wins a second World Cup consecutive, man. Yeah. Messi.”
— Jonathan Zaslow [11:14]

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4. World Cup’s Top Five ‘In Memoriam’ Moments

• [17:42–20:26]
  • Tony presents a tongue-in-cheek “in memoriam” for World Cup 2026’s most memorable storylines.
    • #5: Erling Haaland’s introduction to America
    • #4: The Tartan Army’s boisterous presence
    • #3: Cape Verde’s surprise run
    • #2: Teams that led Argentina before losing
    • #1: All the great fans “lost along the way,” celebrating the cultural melting pot created by the tournament
  • With banter about emotional goodbyes and fan culture.

Memorable Moment:

“All the great fans we've lost along the way, you've made us a little bit more interested in cultures we didn't care about until you showed up. Thank you for the fans out there. We love you.”
— Tony [19:49]

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5. NBA Free Agency: The Gary Trent Jr. Salary Cap Controversy

• [21:33–26:19]
  • Discussion of the Milwaukee Bucks’ suspicious four-year $64 million deal for Gary Trent Jr., despite a down season and lack of demand.
  • Speculation about “wink-wink” salary agreements to skirt cap rules.
  • Comparison to previous NBA cap controversies with Juwan Howard and alleged cases involving Kawhi Leonard.

Notable Quote:

“Seems like a wink, wink deal. I don't, I don't know that they're going to get banged for it, but they shouldn't.”
— Dan Le Batard [24:47]

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6. Games & Banter: TNT Trivia and Sports Height Averages

• [27:13–34:14]
  • The show runs a trivia game on Miami Dolphins all-time rushing leaders (“Tony vs. Tashay: Cuban vs. Juban”).
  • Zaslow runs an entertaining quiz on average heights by major sports.
  • Playful self-deprecation and local sport nostalgia throughout.

Notable Quotes:

“Lusaka Polite. Horrible guess.”
— Zaslow [29:50]
“What a truly dreadful franchise.” — Jeremy [31:59]

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7. Viral Video: Army of Venomous Cobras

• [34:14–36:39]
  • Tony shares a video of hundreds of venomous cobras swimming after a flood in China—sparking horror among the crew and ideas for a snake-based horror movie theater.

Memorable Moment:

“It was the most terrifying thing I'd seen…I was looking at my phone, was like, this is the worst thing.”
— Tony [35:48]

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8. Big Game or Not a Big Game: Weekend Preview

• [36:49–41:14]
  • The show’s running gag: the crew consults Zaslow on whether events (from “Marlins at Brewers” to “Tony’s date night” to “salad or no salad” amid food recalls) qualify as a “big game.”
  • The segment ends with exuberance for the impending Spain vs. Argentina World Cup final.

Memorable Moment:

“Tony, date night with the wife…That's a big game!”
— Dan Le Batard [39:33]

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• On Samuel Henderson:

  "On sucks compared to him." — Dan Le Batard [01:05]

• On soccer culture oddities:

  "It's just bizarre behavior, obviously, that for people steeped in American sports, you would never see that." — Zaslow [07:28]

• On Messi’s legacy:

  "We gotta start saying that's a Tom Brady a blank." — Jonathan Zaslow [10:53]

• On NBA free agency quirks:

  "Seems like a wink, wink deal. I don't, I don't know that they're going to get banged for it, but they shouldn't." — Dan Le Batard [24:47]

• On trivia and nostalgia:

  "What a truly dreadful franchise." — Jeremy [31:59]

• On viral animal videos:

  “It was the most terrifying thing I'd seen…My phone was like, this is the worst thing.” — Tony [35:48]

• On ‘big games’:

  "Tony, date night with the wife…That's a big game!" — Dan Le Batard [39:33]

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Key Timestamps

• [00:41] – Samuel Henderson Bird Calls
• [04:09] – Recap of Argentina vs. England, soccer culture
• [10:11] – Messi’s place among the "GOATs"
• [17:42] – Tony’s World Cup ‘In Memoriam’
• [21:33] – NBA Free Agency, Gary Trent Jr. controversy
• [27:13] – TNT Trivia: Miami Dolphins’ rushing leaders
• [34:14] – Venomous cobra viral video discussion
• [36:49] – Big Game or Not a Big Game, sports/weekend preview

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Tone & Style

• Energetic banter, Miami-centric references, and a blend of earnest sports analysis with sharp, self-deprecating humor.
• Frequent, playful roasting among crew members, with conversations moving fluidly between sports, pop culture, nostalgia, and internet trends.

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Conclusion

This episode captures the fun, unpredictability, and camaraderie of The Dan Le Batard Show, moving from viral feel-good stories to the high (and low) stakes of international soccer, NBA intrigue, and, of course, classic trivia and dinner date debates. For listeners, it’s a quintessential blend of sports passion, cultural curiosity, and comic relief.

Transcript

[Comcast Announcer]

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[Dan LeBatard]

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[Jeremy]

So there's this incredible video of this young kid named Samuel Henderson. He's from Oklahoma. He's 12 years old and he can essentially channel birds. Like he's doing these.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like he could talk to them.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, he, he's doing these bird calls. I've never heard anyone sound more like the an. Like he puts Ron McGill to shame

[Dan LeBatard]

on sucks compared to him.

[Jeremy]

You're saying Ron McGill is untalented compared to this kid. That's how great this kid is. But it's, it's been so fun to watch the Internet react in such a positive way to this kid. He, he basically had a really viral video where he was doing bird sounds and then people started requesting all of these different ones. So he did a part two. I. I want you guys to watch this. It's amazing.

[Dave]

This is bird request part two. And let's get started. First we got the bar owl. Next the ring neck do. Oh, next. Next is the American woodcock.

[Dan LeBatard]

Meep, meep, meep.

[Dave]

And you know, there's two different species of crows in the United States, the fish crow and the American crow. The fish crow is what I'm going to do first. Then the American cross if they're gonna come to then sorry. Atlantic puffin. Next to purple Martin.

[Dan LeBatard]

Whippoor.

[Dave]

And keep up the good, Keep up the request, guys. And also I want to, I want to say thank you to Bird Collective for giving. Give. For sending that box to me. Well, bye.

[Jeremy]

What a sweet kid. Like, it's so cool to see anyone as passionate about anything as that kid.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's Buddy's name?

[Jeremy]

Bird calls. His name is Samuel Henderson. And the way that he is interacting with everyone, the way that the Internet. Internet is interacting with him, I think personally that that's worth a toast. And he is amazing. Worth the toast is presented by Cuervo. Keep it fun. Keep it Cuervo. That is one of the most like I just watched Lionel Messi play soccer, and that's the most impressive thing I've seen this week. He is unbelievable.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's. That's. It's pretty amazing.

[Jeremy]

It's awesome.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's amazing.

[Tony]

The crow was spot on.

[Mike Ryan]

It was.

[Jeremy]

Right? That's the one that got me. I was watching, and I was like, all right, these are, like, unbelievable. Some of these sounds that are. That are coming out of this kid, but the crows were identical. It was amazing.

[Zaslow]

Well, I was just gonna say, I mean, how do we know, like, he's doing these.

[Dan LeBatard]

Good question.

[Zaslow]

Birds. You're like, oh, my God. That's amazing.

[Jeremy]

I saw someone on TikTok break down. I saw someone on TikTok break down where it sounds. Yeah, they spliced it all together where they had is. And then they had the sound of the bird sort of showing, like, that is identical to what they sound like. It was really awesome.

[Dan LeBatard]

I want to show you guys something that I just saw this morning.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

High school's gonna be tough.

[Dan LeBatard]

So at the end of the Argentina England game, we all saw, like, Jude Bellingham had some moments throughout the game, right? Like, he had a back and forth with Messi, which apparently, turned out, it was playful banter, but it gave us, like, the all time great messy meme, you know? And there was also another moment where Bell. Bellingham had back and forth with Rodrigo. Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Like, I get.

[Dan LeBatard]

I get choked up when I think about the way that he spoke to Rodrigo de Paul.

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm on your ass now. I don't like what you did to me last.

[Dan LeBatard]

Why would I.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Do you know exactly what you did?

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Playing stupid. What's the name of that movie?

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

Diggler.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, Dig, man with an L. Right?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. I know exactly what you did. Leave somebody on an island to say the actual title.

[Dan LeBatard]

And then after the game, Jude Bellingham smacks. What's. What's homeboy's name? Valentine Barco, right?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, That's Homeboy. That's Homeboy's name.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. He smacks him in the back like he. He gave him a smack, all right? In the back of the head, the redheaded dude.

[Dave]

And.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I was like, whoa. Why do. Why do you do that? I don't know if you've seen this video. Watch this here. This is the second goal that Argentina scores with, which would eventually be the winner. And watch Barco, who is a sub. He's wearing the. You know, the penny. Watch him.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's a penny. I told you, I'm on your ass.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think it's a penny.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It's a penny.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, babe, here's the video. So you see here. Here is the goal that's scored. And coming off onto your screen from the left side is Barco, who just runs onto the field celebrating like a wild man. Look at this. Runs onto the field by himself, away from his teammates. I've never seen anything like that. Have you ever seen that before? All of his teammates. First of all, it's one weird. It's a weird soccer thing, at least to me. How when there's a goal scored and the whole bench, like, runs to the corner and they all celebrate, those guys. Like, you know, you're on the bench, you're able to just run on the field like that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Clocks up. Running aren't a big deal.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, Clocks. Clocks running. But all right, whatever the time, okay. All right, fine. But I've never seen that before. He just runs on his own across the middle of the field, jumping up and down and celebrating. Mike, you're telling me that's normal?

[Comcast Announcer]

No, no, no.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's poor. I don't like that. I don't like that. And Jude Bellingham was right to do something.

[Tony]

Look at that.

[Dan LeBatard]

He's. He's fist pumping and running in front of the England players, completely away from his own team.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He took that as disrespect. He looks like SPO calling a timeout.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, what a. What a terrible moment that was. Oh, my God. And so we have reaction, fear from Bellingham. This was him again. You could. You can catch it after the game where. All right. He shakes hands with a couple of the Argentine players, and then he sees that guy and he smacks him right up.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

All right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I like it. I kind of think he did the right thing now.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So I. I had only seen this happen. I'm like, man, Jude. Like, I was like, man, Jude, with what you said to Messi and the. The Tuchel thing, I was like, maybe you can grow from some of these things. Immature.

[Jeremy]

But that.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's edge that's leaning there. Yeah.

[Zaslow]

What?

[Tony]

That look back, Zach.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, receipt.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I know about that look back.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I like that. From Jude. That's good shit.

[Dan LeBatard]

I do wonder. I think. Yeah, go ahead, Dave.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

It's.

[Zaslow]

It's just bizarre behavior, obviously, that for people steeped in American sports, you would never see that. And you have to adjust your eye to the soccer culture. And it is not international culture. Soccer culture is. You know, people always do the. What's it called? Surrender Cobra in. In football, people. The fans in the Stands do that. It's crazy that every soccer fan in the stand somehow understands that in the soccer culture, you don't put your hands on top of your head. You put them over your mouth. When something bad happens, you do. You do this. And you don't hug your pose, your opponents. You don't high five them on a job well done. You don't dap them up. You put your hand around their face or, like, around the back of their head. You know what I'm talking about?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

What?

[Zaslow]

These weird.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Like, I've seen high fives and hugs, but go on.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

I'm not.

[Zaslow]

You know what I'm talking about. Yeah. I'm not a homophobe. It's weird, though, the way they. They sort of put that on the record of each other's heads when they're talking.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're not.

[Zaslow]

Well done. Well, well done, mate.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

Well done.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You're not watching the Odyssey.

[Tony]

It's European.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We park our cars in the same garage.

[Dan LeBatard]

I. I just. It's such odd behavior. Like in. In football, when a team scores a touchdown.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That was super disrespectful, though, and Jude was right to do that. And Jude probably is lining himself up to be the next captain once Harry Kane gives that up or is no longer selected for the international side. That was all right. I'm glad that that was context, because I first saw that Jude Bellingham thing, I was like, man, bad luck, Bad luck.

[Dan LeBatard]

I also wonder, is it. Is it possible? Because I was wondering how Bellingham and Messi were having a conversation during the game because Messi didn't speak English. But then you told me that Bellingham speaks.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Messi speaks enough.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay, but then you. But you told me, though, that Bellingham speaks Spanish.

[Zaslow]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He plays in Spain.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. So that's important. I wonder, though, if before Bellingham smacked that guy up the side of his head, if that guy said something in Spanish and maybe didn't know that Bellingham's gonna understand.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's. That's a. That's a theory. No doubt, man. It's a known thing, though, that you don't do what Jude did to Messi.

[Dan LeBatard]

Like, you mean, don't rile him up.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You don't. You don't. Everyone knows that. I really want to know what he said.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, his. Well, his explanation. Do you want to know what his explanation was?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I would love to know what Messi's explanation is.

[Dan LeBatard]

Because. Because his explanation was he said to Messi, like, he was complaining about not getting a foul call, and then Messi said To him. What about the foul on me? And. And Bellingham told him, you can handle it. Like, you're strong enough. Oh, really? And that's what. Then Messi made the face like, okay, weird cell phone. Yeah. So I don't know. That's. That's what he. That's what Bellingham says it was anyway.

[Zaslow]

And to be clear, just to. Just to put this in the proper setup that it deserves. Mike Ryan. This would be. This is the goat of the most popular sport on the planet Earth. And this would be the signature of his career if he gets this one done.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, dude. Yeah.

[Zaslow]

And so he's the. He's the. And is it fair then to say, as people. I know that. That this may not be your favorite conversation to sort of categorize these things, but is he. Then if he wins this one, is he the goat of all.

[Dan LeBatard]

Gordy said it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, I think he already is in terms of soccer, but I hear.

[Dan LeBatard]

What about. What about a baseball greatest of all

[Jonathan Zaslow]

time in all athletics, man. Brady. I. I do think that we need to start changing things. Like, we always say, that guy's the Michael Jordan a blank. I'm a big proponent of. We got to start saying that's a Tom Brady a blank.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think I agree.

[Zaslow]

Same goes for 85 Bears. We've had good defenses since the 85 Bears. Let's stop using that as well. They're not exactly the 85.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I think the greatest athlete of all time, the most dominant athlete of all time, if he wins a second World cup consecutive, man. Yeah. Messi.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dave, what about when being aim.

[Zaslow]

Being a factor in the goals that he.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, dude, Right prior to last World cup, especially in the final, he stepped up to the moment, but also, many haters would say he literally stepped up to it. A lot of those were pens here in this World Cup. That's why I said, like, he's much better than the last World cup, which was his best World Cup.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's all you say. Not close.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He's so much better. And we were talking about this on Morally Abhorrent yesterday, the Ballon d'.

[Comcast Announcer]

Or.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Messi's won it a couple of times. He won it when he was in an Inter Miami uniform, but he had won it because of stuff that he did prior to. And he was playing for psg, and he won it mainly for what he did for Argentina. Will Gavin told me that Messi was plus 5,000 in some books to win the Ballon d'.

[Dave]

Or.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Best player on the planet. Men's side, it's Very difficult to do that when you're not playing in Europe. Megan Rapinoe has done it when she was playing in America, but, like, it doesn't happen. But it's not like he's not dominating the shit out of MLS and he's just running through the World Cup. I think he has a legitimate shot at the Ballon d' or if he wins.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

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[Jeremy]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Dan Levatar I don't think Strange for me, but like Mike Ryan. Oh boy, this is the Dan Levatar Show.

[Zaslow]

Well, I also think that, you know, underdog stories are great. We love to see them in movies and we love to see him in sports. But the better story in my book is, you know, Tom Brady is the other side of this equation, which is before he even knows what's happening. It's his second season, he's a Super bowl champ. He throws for 12 yards in the Super bowl, but nevertheless, he's the MVP and he's off and running. And now he's a winner. He's clutching. The other side of that coin is Dan Marino gets there in his second year, doesn't win. And now it's like, he'll eventually get one. And as you see, his career wears on. Like, is he ever going to get one? And that plague of pressure of he's supposed to do it adds extra pressure on your shoulders. And when you are then Tom Brady and say Super Bowl 49 against the era's best defense in the Seattle Seahawks, and you're down 10 points in the fourth quarter and. And everybody in the stadium on both sidelines and watching on TV saying, the only guy who can save the Patriots right now is that guy. And he does it. That's the best thing in sports. Messi was plagued with. Correct me if I'm wrong, man, this guy's awesome. He just doesn't come through in the big spot late, relatively speaking, in his career. He did come through, and now he might do it again. I think that's the remarkable story, and one that maybe does make him the goat of all goats. Although I'm not steeped in soccer the

[Dan LeBatard]

way you are, Tony. It's your time to shine. The World cup is coming to an end, sadly, and you put together a top five in memoriam.

[Tony]

Yeah, in memoriam of the entire summer, things that we had throughout the entire summer. The. The what month run of the World Cup.

[Comcast Announcer]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Beautiful. So we've got a top five of things we'll remember from this World cup, starting with Erlan Holland. America may have just met you, but we will remember you forever.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Fanfare for an immemorial.

[Tony]

Or at least another two weeks until we find out where you play.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

That's how the Oscars do it.

[Dave]

Right?

[Tony]

I wasn't expecting it to be fair. That's why I was going to just.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. You know, maybe. Maybe there's another sound.

[Tony]

Yeah. Where does he play?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Erling Holland.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

Yeah.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Manchester City.

[Tony]

Okay, so the epl. The English Premier League. He's a man. City guy. Number four. The Tartan Army.

[Dan LeBatard]

Thank you.

[Tony]

You bagpiped, you drank beer, you kept Dan up all night. We appreciate that. For sure. Mike appreciates you more than anybody.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Oh, for sure. As a small business owner, I walked to Lost Boy to watch one of the matches. And on my walk, on two different lamp posts. On the walk over, a cone sat

[Tony]

atop the lamp post, of course.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The precision cone tossing of the Tartan Army.

[Dan LeBatard]

Wonderful tribute.

[Tony]

Something we'll remember forever. Capo Verde. We won't remember any of your names, but we won't forget how you made us feel.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

We're Gonna remember.

[Tony]

Okay, sure. 1. And how about the guy that went the. The beautiful bender?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What was that guy already forgot his name.

[Dan LeBatard]

We are all capo Verde.

[Tony]

We are all Cabo Verde. Number two. Any team that had a lead on Argentina in the World cup, either thank you or by the left foot of God. Your destiny was always written. It was always to lose. We were sorry for. How many teams is it? Four teams that had a lead on Argentina before they came back and won in late fashion. Incredible.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I'm emotional.

[Tony]

What happened?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Somebody coughed, man. I'm a warrior.

[Tony]

You are. You are number one.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

This would straight up kill Jeremy.

[Dan LeBatard]

What's going on with you?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

The sniffles that I have. Jeremy would be dead.

[Dan LeBatard]

He would die.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

He would die. Yeah, he would be a dead man if he had what I'm.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, he'd be a dead man.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

What I'm powering through.

[Tony]

Thank you for your service.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're dead, Jeremy.

[Dave]

Thank you.

[Tony]

Great one. Sell their bodies. Not today. You've done it. Number one. All the great fans we've lost along the way, you've made us a little bit more interested in cultures we didn't care about until you showed up. Thank you for the fans out there. We love you. We love the fans. Norway.

[Dan LeBatard]

Norway. Brazil.

[Tony]

South Korea.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's some people's favorite kind of fans.

[Tony]

Yep, that was it. Just a. A good little morsel of things we lost along the way as the final and the third place game obviously tomorrow in the final on Sunday. So we'll never forget FIFA World Cup 2026 in the good old states.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, I'm so glad we brought that idea.

[Zaslow]

Back to the next hour.

[Dan LeBatard]

The greatest fans.

[Dave]

Thank you.

[Jeremy]

It's not my best impression.

[Zaslow]

Mike Ryan, go and console Jeremy Tash. If you insulted him in the soccer way, go, go. Cup the back of his head real nice and close.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, thank you.

[Jeremy]

No, thank you. He has the sniffles. It'll kill me.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

So it's sage force.

[Dan LeBatard]

So amidst the NBA news that's been huge, right? Like the LeBron stuff is obviously what we're keeping an eye on here and everybody's waiting for. I think we're gonna find out Sunday night. I do. I think we're be here Monday morning and we're gonna know and it's gonna be a thing. I think new World cup ends 5:30pm Eastern time on Sunday. I've accounted for the 30 minute halftime, Mike. So 5:30 and I think sometime after that we are going to learn the LeBron news. And. And then it's going to dominate starting Monday morning.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

No one will hold you accountable if it doesn't happen either. It's a great thing to say.

[Dan LeBatard]

Absolutely.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You've been wrong about it a lot.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's. Well, that's. That's what everyone's doing in the media right now. If you get it right, you venture

[Jonathan Zaslow]

to guess that LeBron is going to make a decision. Yeah, a couple of times. And you haven't been right. It hasn't stuck to you. So keep going with it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I'm going to eventually be right. And then it's. Zazzle had it first. Props, Zaslow. So that's what's going to wind up happening Sunday night. But there is a story going on right now with a former free agent called Gary Trent. Gary Trent Jr. Actually, his father played for the Heat. Did you know that, Jeremy? No, you didn't. Now you know Gary Trent Jr. He signed a four year, $64 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, a team he's played for for a couple of years now. Tony, do you know what's going on here with Gary Trent Jr.

[Tony]

It's the weirdest thing. They're investigating a four for $64 million deal that the Bucs gave Gary Trent Jr. And if I'm Gary Trent Jr. I'm like, yo, what are we doing?

[Dan LeBatard]

Why are they investigating?

[Tony]

Why are you investigating me? Why don't you guys take care of the guy you're actually investigating and go

[Dan LeBatard]

take care of that? Why are they investigating?

[Tony]

Because he was terrible last year, so they not deserve it. Of a 4 for 64, $60 million

[Dan LeBatard]

a year deal, there is belief that the Bucks circumvented the salary cap here and they had a wink, wink, make good deal with Gary Trent, because Gary Trent, for, you know, was he in Portland before he went to Milwaukee? I think a good player, 17, 18 points a game. He was a scorer and he inexplicably signed with the Bucks. You got to remember a couple years ago, a team with Giannis and Damian Lillard, who you thought was going to be a title contender, but they didn't have enough money to sign into like a commensurate deal. And they signed into a. Maybe a little bit more than the minimum. It was like a two year, like $9 million deal or something with a player option. It's like, whoa, that is a hell of a steal. And because they gave him a multi year deal, they were able to acquire early bird rights, which means you could resign your own guy and you can go over the salary cap. And okay, fine, you know, wink, wink. We'll pay you, you know, a little bit of money now, but we're going to make it up to you on the back end. Don't tell anyone. It's an easy way for us to get around the salary cap. All right? And if that's not bad enough, it became kind of became a red flag because not only did he sign this four year, $64 million deal now, but he was terrible this past year. It was like a career worst season. He had a bunch of DNP coaches decisions. Well, not very often you get DNP coaches decisions for a veteran player and then he signs a four year, $64 million deal when seemingly no one else is out there, you know, trying to sign him for his services.

[Tony]

36% from 3, 38% from the field. 8.1 points per game this season, like you said.

[Dan LeBatard]

And like, what's his career average?

[Tony]

Career average is hovering more around 13ish. He had great years over in Toronto where he scored 18 a game 17 a game 13 a game 11, but now it's kind of gone down every single season.

[Dan LeBatard]

And he gets DNPs.

[Tony]

He gets DNPs all the time. For a team obviously that was in flux because they didn't know what was going to happen with Giannis. They were kind of tanking. They were kind of half ass tanking of like, is he coming back? Is he not? Are we going to get a pick? Are we not? But for me, I look at other deals that are kind of in the same realm as that Quentin Grimes, you could probably say is a little bit better than Gary Trent Jr but got a 4 for 60, you know what I mean? So it's like he's kind of in that range. We're just looking at on the back end of like he had a bad year. They're going to be not that good.

[Dan LeBatard]

Seems like a wink, wink deal. I don't, I don't know that they're going to get banged for it, but they shouldn't.

[Tony]

I mean, if, if they're going to bang the Bucs and Gary Trent Jr. And completely not do anything to Kawhi Leonard, who has proven that there is material hard evidence via Pablo Torre, finds out that there was cap circumvention and now you're going to go to assumed presumed cap circumvention and hit him. That's weak sauce, but I think that

[Jeremy]

that's why, right like that they announced that they're probing. It is to show like we care about this stuff. We need to make an example of the teams where this is the case so that they can investigate it and then say that nothing happened. Or maybe there is something that happened. Like maybe they will find evidence and they will punish the player and or the team. This is at the very beginning of the contract. Right. This stuff with Pablo didn't come out until midway through. It's a lot more cut and dry. If they do a quick investigation, they can void that contract and move on. And with gary, Gary Trent Jr. They can use him as an example of them taking all of this seriously.

[Tony]

But where's the smoking gun? Right in the Joe Smith there won't be situation there was the actual smoking gun and this one there's really not. That's the only two that I can think of. That cap circumvention.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, the Miami Heat did it with John Howard.

[Tony]

Okay. John Howard. Was there a smoking gun there?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. The order of events like they signed Juan Howard to the massive deal and then they finally resigned Alonzo Mourning. It was like, yeah, it's kind of shady. So we're going to have to add.

[Tony]

So we have three examples.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I mean look, I think the very obvious fair resolution here is for the NBA to make the Charlotte Hornets give the Miami Heat their first round pick back. I mean I think that's full circle.

[Jeremy]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

Pretty obvious at this point.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Dan LeBatard]

Levitar put a finger in there. But if you tell anyone, I'll deny it. Mike Ryan don't just stare at it, eat it. This is the Dan Levatar show Foreign. Can we play a little bit of a game here today?

[Zaslow]

I'd like to play a couple of games. I have. It's up to you, Zaz. You have the con. Would you rather have another edition of tnt? Tashay v Tony with a little trivia head to head or my son, we were at the Buckos game last week and he asked me how tall is the average baseball player and that led me to cook up what the average height is in all the major sports. Which one would you like to go with.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. These are two very intriguing games. All right. I feel like it's a lot of pressure. These are good games. I'm going to go with the first one, though. Let's do low tv. Yeah, let's do it. Let's go with the first one. Let's do a little Tony versus Tashi.

[Zaslow]

Cuban Cuban versus Juban.

[Dan LeBatard]

Here we go for total Cuban supremacy. Let's do it.

[Zaslow]

All right, here we go. I have in front of me today's category and everybody, you're both gentlemen. Nobody needs to check your computers to make sure you're not looking up the answers to cheat here because you'd only be cheating yourselves. Here we go.

[Dan LeBatard]

You're.

[Zaslow]

You're first to go. You're you're first to go here on this one. The top 20 all time rushing leaders for the Miami Dolphins,

[Jeremy]

Ricky Williams.

[Zaslow]

Ricky Williams. Where just, just for fun, do you know where he ranks all time one among the Dolphins.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's not hard.

[Zaslow]

Number two. I'm a little surprised by that. Number two is. Is all time. Tony, you're up.

[Tony]

I'm going to take Larry Zonka.

[Zaslow]

Correct. That's number one for you, Tashay. Ronnie Brown, that's number three. You guys are doing well here. Tony.

[Tony]

I'm going to take Mercury Morris.

[Zaslow]

Wow. You guys have the top four. Tashay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Hmm.

[Jeremy]

This is where it starts to get tricky.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you should be able to get.

[Zaslow]

Doesn't have to.

[Jeremy]

You know, here's an odd one that might be near the bottom of that because he had a couple of good seasons here.

[Dan LeBatard]

Spit it out, man.

[Jeremy]

Reggie Bush.

[Zaslow]

Really? The vamping around is. Is untoward, but you are correct. Reggie Bush. 16th. 16th, right.

[Jeremy]

So near the bottom, just like I said.

[Tony]

Okay, Dave, how about you give me a little Kareem Abdul Jabbar.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Zaslow]

Well done. Number seven, the seventh leading rusher in the history of the franchise. Yikes. Hashtag.

[Dan LeBatard]

Lusaka.

[Zaslow]

Here's a clue that I've mentioned. I'm horrible guess.

[Dan LeBatard]

Horrible guess.

[Zaslow]

What was it?

[Dan LeBatard]

Lusaka Polite. Horrible guess.

[Jeremy]

Just want to say a nice name.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, That's a point for Tony. Do we have another game of tnt?

[Zaslow]

Well, wait a second. We started with Tache, so Tony must okay by naming somebody here.

[Tony]

Oh, hold on. All right, I'm gonna bring one because he said Lusaka polite. I'm gonna say one that is probably very low on the list. But if I go down the middle,

[Zaslow]

throw a strike, I mean, there's no reason to get cute.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's so many.

[Jeremy]

Get cute.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Get cute.

[Dan LeBatard]

There's so many get cute players.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Don't do number 44.

[Jeremy]

Nah, get cute.

[Tony]

Yeah, come on. You know, I wanted to say it.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Just say that he was lost at C. Yes.

[Tony]

That's exactly what I wanted.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't know if he's in the top 20.

[Tony]

He might be.

[Dan LeBatard]

Say what you want to say.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Well, no, this is not his formal guess, but is Rob Conrad in the top 20?

[Zaslow]

He is not. And I'm vain enough to expect that. You follow when I'm speaking and I have told you my favorite or my second favorite pro football game of all time significantly features this guy on a banner play that stands out among the most memorable plays in pro football history.

[Tony]

All right, I'll throw a strike down the middle. You ready?

[Zaslow]

Yep.

[Tony]

Lamar Smith.

[Zaslow]

Lamar smith is number 15. And number nine is Lamar Miller.

[Tony]

I'm speaking high school teammate of mine, by the way. Did you know that?

[Zaslow]

Is that right?

[Dave]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Saw number seven run.

[Zaslow]

I was speaking of Tony Nathan, of course. On the hook and ladder off the right arm of Don Strock to Duriel Harris to Tony Nathan running down the sideline as halftime approaches. Jim Kick is the obvious one at number five, H. And Mark Higgs. Mark Higgs.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, yes.

[Zaslow]

Delvin Williams. Andre Franklin. Raheem Mostert. Benny Malone. Bernie Parmale. Lorenzo Han.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bernie. Bernie Par. Made it.

[Zaslow]

Oh, yeah. Jaya Jai and Sammy Smith once again reminding me, as you look at this list, that Don Shula, for all of his greatness, failed. Damn, Marine.

[Jeremy]

What a truly dreadful franchise.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Bad at running.

[Zaslow]

It really is bad.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah. Famously was blamed for that in the defense for Marino not making it back to a Super Bowl.

[Zaslow]

I mean, he really. I mean, for all of his greatness, Amy really did for the entirety of Marino's career.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

But as we covered, would have made it if Natron Means was called rightfully out of bounds.

[Dan LeBatard]

He selected John Avery over Randy Moss. What are you gonna do?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

You know, you remember that?

[Zaslow]

Hey, Zaz.

[Dan LeBatard]

Of course.

[Zaslow]

So, over, under. Now we'll move on to game number two here. The average height of a baseball player in the year of the Lord 20.

[Dan LeBatard]

26.

[Zaslow]

6:1.

[Dan LeBatard]

I was gonna say 6. I was gonna say exactly 6:1. So. All right, I gotta go over. Under. I'm gonna go over.

[Zaslow]

You are correct. It's six one and a half. The tallest position is pitcher, middle infielder. As you would expect, the shortest six, two and a half is the average height of a major league pitcher. NBA six, six. Over. Under.

[Dan LeBatard]

Under.

[Zaslow]

Incorrect. It's over. It's six, six and a half.

[Dave]

Wow.

[Zaslow]

What do you got there, Tony? I was.

[Tony]

I thought it was going to be a little bit more than that. A lot of seven, seven plus guys that kind of skew the averages. Not a lot of five plus guys.

[Zaslow]

All right. NFL six, two over, under,

[Dan LeBatard]

under.

[Zaslow]

It's over six, two and a half. Obviously the tallest position is offensive line and QBs are tall. One more for you. NBA. NBA six, six and a half point

[Dan LeBatard]

five over, under six, six and a half point what?

[Zaslow]

Six, six and a half.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, okay. Because you said six, six and a half, 0.5. What does that mean?

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

I'm sorry.

[Zaslow]

Because I'm a dip. Six, six and a half over, under.

[Dan LeBatard]

I thought we already did this one, though.

[Tony]

Push. This is a push.

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you having a stroke? Are you the same way? You okay?

[Zaslow]

No, I'm not. All right. As you can tell, NHL six, one over, under, under. It's over. I was stunned by that one.

[Dan LeBatard]

Six, one and a half point five.

[Tony]

Well, they're all wearing skates, too. The skates.

[Zaslow]

Want to do NBA again? I don't know. All right, listen, that one didn't go well. I enjoyed TNT though.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Good job, Dave. Tony, what is this video you were telling me about going into the weekend? You have some kind of video that I'm going to wind up being afraid of and I'm telling you, if it's spiders, you're doing spiders on your own.

[Tony]

I promise you it's not spiders, but it's one of the most terrifying videos I've ever seen. There was a flood in China over the weekend and there was a like endangered snake exhibit or farm of some sort that got flooded out. Those are all venomous cobras. Stream of water. They're venomous cobras in a stream of water and they have their heads out

[Dan LeBatard]

with their big part of their snake army.

[Tony]

It's like a snake army in a river. So they had flooding everywhere. Snake farm got flooded out. So all they were just going on to all these little houses and they're

[Jonathan Zaslow]

gonna make a movie about this.

[Zaslow]

Yeah, look at this.

[Tony]

So the cobra's just sitting there above the water, venomous in like super venomous cobra.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Tell you something, I hate cobras.

[Tony]

Me too.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I don't like them.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't like them either.

[Tony]

Can you look? That's like 200 of them just back.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's an army.

[Tony]

It's an army of snakes. Imagine there's a house at the end of that river and they're just like going straight into that house. Can you imagine?

[Zaslow]

Which is the more vomitus The. The sea of snakes or those cobras. I'm kind of with you, Mike. Those ones with their heads up and the way they wiggle around as they go down, it makes me. It really does. Nausea.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll tell you what.

[Zaslow]

If anyone.

[Dan LeBatard]

If I. I told you I'm open for investors for my horror movie theater, I would. I would show. That would be one of the opening movies in my horror movie theater.

[Jeremy]

Yeah, that's the movie preview for you.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Jeremy]

Don't even have to make the movie. Just show that on a loop for about 10 minutes to get people.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Tony]

It was the most terrifying thing I'd seen. I was looking at. My phone was like, this is. This is the worst thing.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

It is a little weird that the cobra looks so scary and ominous, but you just start playing a little flute, they start bobbing like

[Tony]

wicker basket.

[Zaslow]

I think Zaz, the cobra should go underneath your feet.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

I was like, I was gonna bite you, but this.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm telling you, hit me up at Zaslow show. If you're looking to invest in what could be a billion dollar investment, Zazzle's Horror Movie Theater.

[Tony]

Is there a scarier thing than what I just showed you from an animal perspective? Because, like, we did the bear thing, and it was like, okay, like, the bear is kind of scary, but bear. This is like 500 cobras swimming.

[Dan LeBatard]

It's bad in a way that you're

[Tony]

like, all right in the water. Maybe they can't do something like. No, no, they'll swim faster.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, they. They could do lots of things. Yeah, yeah, that's bad. I don't like that. I'll tell you.

[Zaslow]

Shark.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'll tell you what I do like, though. Oh, my God. That video is unbelievable. All right, I'll tell you what I do like, though, guys.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Friday, it's a time, and a lot

[Dan LeBatard]

of people are saying themselves. Zaslo, I got no.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Yeah, Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I gotta figure out how to spend my time this weekend. That means you need to tell me, is it big game? Was it not a big game? That's right.

[Tony]

Howdy, folks.

[Dan LeBatard]

Welcome to Big Game or Not a

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Big Game with Jonathan Zaslow.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, gentlemen, what do you have for me today? How about. We will start things out. Jeremy, what do you got?

[Jeremy]

Marlins at brewers tonight. Sandy Alcantara on the hill. Marlins looking to start the second half on the right note. Big game. Not a big game.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right, what are their records here?

[Jeremy]

The brewers are in first place. They're one of the best teams in all of Major League Baseball. The Marlins are seven games over 500. Holding on to that four final wild card spot at the moment.

[Dan LeBatard]

Marlins, Brewers. Where's the game?

[Jeremy]

In Milwaukee.

[Dan LeBatard]

In Millywauke. You know, that's how they originally pronounced it when it was founded, right?

[Jeremy]

Milly, walk a. Yeah, of course.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm going big game start.

[Tony]

You didn't.

[Dan LeBatard]

You didn't think I was going to go that way. That's a swerve. You didn't think I was going to go in that direction. I didn't think that at all. Hey, get this. Avoid a four game losing streak. No one needs that shit in their life.

[Unidentified Male Speaker]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. Get the second half of the season on the right track. I'm going big game. All right. Big game. Let's see. Tony. Tony, what do you got for me?

[Tony]

Zaz, after a very long time, been a couple weeks, been out of town, been doing this and that. Haven't really focused in tonight. Date night with the wife. Oh, big game. Not a big game.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. Tony, date night with the wife. He's been away, out of town, doing this and that. It means he hasn't had sex. Where are you taking her?

[Tony]

Probably go to the Gables. Nice little restaurant on the Gables.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. Just the two of you?

[Tony]

Just the two of us. Got babysitter lined up, so just me and the wife.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right. And. And is the. Is the babysitter at your house or is the baby going out?

[Tony]

Dropping off at the grandma's house.

[Dan LeBatard]

Excellent. That's a. That's a game changer. Do you have to pick the baby up at the end the night or the baby staying there?

[Tony]

No, I got to pick her up

[Zaslow]

at the end of the night.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay. Can you stop home first and then go pick the baby up?

[Tony]

Possibly. It depends on if it's a big game or not a big.

[Dan LeBatard]

That right there is a very huge factor. And that's why Tony's date night tonight. That's a big game.

[Dave]

Yes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Tony]

A big game kind of player.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's a big game. Dave. Damascia. What?

[Zaslow]

Do you have an. Well, do you have an extra obstacle Tony to overcome? Is she aware of your failure with Giannis?

[Tony]

She does not know? No.

[Zaslow]

She doesn't know?

[Tony]

No. Because I told her that I beat Zaz getting Bobby Porter.

[Dan LeBatard]

Well, that is true.

[Dave]

All right,

[Zaslow]

Zaz, given the current events, Salad over the weekend or no salad, do I have to avoid all greens, given the health scare, the diarrhea that plagues our nation.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, wow. So avoiding salad, Is that. Is that the question?

[Zaslow]

Yeah. Salad or no salad? Yeah, that. That's the debate.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, I'm going.

[Tony]

No salad tonight, by the way. No salad.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Zaslow]

Okay.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. You don't want that. That's not a big game. That's not a big game.

[Zaslow]

I mean, that's not a big game.

[Tony]

No.

[Zaslow]

My health.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, that's not how. It's not a big game. That's not a big game. You'll be just fine, Mike.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Spain, Argentina. The World cup final. Climate change. Madonna. Laminamal versus Leo Messi.

[Dan LeBatard]

Spain, Argentina.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Madonna.

[Dan LeBatard]

World cup final. Did you say Madonna or Maradona?

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Madonna.

[Dan LeBatard]

Was that with an R? Maradona.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Madonna. The Queen of Pop.

[Dan LeBatard]

Ok, I think I know what you're saying.

[Zaslow]

It.

[Dan LeBatard]

Maradona. No.

[Jonathan Zaslow]

Madonna. Diego Maradona is dead. No, R. Madonna's held together by some kind of masking tape.

[Dan LeBatard]

Ok, you're talking about Madonna. Spain, Argentina. World cup final. That's a big game. Big game.