Top 5 Things To Look Forward To In NBA Finals Game 2 | Hour 1

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Top 5 Things To Look Forward To In NBA Finals Game 2 | Hour 1

Date: June 5, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Hosts: Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, Mike Ryan, Tony, Chris, Zaza, Dave Dameshek

Episode Overview

This hour of the show delivers a signature blend of sports banter, irreverent humor, and detailed discussion, centering primarily around the NBA Finals matchup between the New York Knicks and San Antonio Spurs. Along the way, the crew reminisces about their own sporting exploits, pokes fun at each other’s skills (or lack thereof), and debates which game factors will be most crucial in Game 2. The hour culminates with Tony’s “Top 5 Things To Look Forward To In Tonight’s Game.” Throughout, there's the usual blend of self-deprecation, good-natured roasting, and sharp basketball analysis.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Childhood Sports Experiences and Pickup Basketball Antics

Timestamps: 02:00–11:00

• Regional PE Sports: Dave Dameshek expresses surprise that Zaza never played street hockey—a staple in Dave’s Pittsburgh youth—but learns that Florida PE leaned toward basketball, football, and unique local games like “burn ball” (throwing a racquetball at a wall), four square, and dodgeball.

  • Quote:
    “It was a foundational sport for young Dave... at least once a week, the plastic hockey sticks and the orange rubber ball broke out for all the kids.” – Dave Dameshek (02:00)

• Pickup Basketball Adventures: Mike Ryan and Tony recount their return to organized pickup basketball.

  • Mike positions himself as a role player, self-compares to “prime Dennis Rodman and Mitchell Robinson” for his rebounding effort but admits lacking in scoring and dribbling.
  • Tony compliments Mike’s hustle: “He was a mix between like prime Dennis Rodman and Mitchell Robinson, grabbing boards, putting his body on the line.” (05:35)
  • Dave injects playful skepticism about Mike’s basketball prowess, suggesting he’s more deferential than dominant:
    “It sounds to me like Mike Ryan maybe is a basketball cuck. I’m not as good as the other guys, I’ll just be over here if you need me.” – Dave Dameshek (08:00)

• Injuries & Aging Fears: The group jokes about the ever-looming fear of tearing an Achilles tendon or sustaining a serious injury in middle-aged pickup games.

  • “That is the go-to fear. Nowadays, when you’re 40 and you’re playing pickup basketball, the go-to fear is tearing the Achilles, right?” – Zaza (10:25)

2. Coaching Breakdowns & Tony’s Telestrator Moment

Timestamps: 16:44–19:25, 43:44–44:33

• In-depth Play Breakdown: Tony analyzes a critical defensive lapse by Mike during their pickup game, using a telestrator to diagram the play and coach up his teammates on proper help-side defense.
  • “Mike did not travel with his guy...stayed down low in no man’s land at the free throw line and allowed me to shoot a shot.” – Tony (17:01)
  • Mike jokingly owns it, blaming (in part) his “cardio of a 40-year-old man who hadn’t played basketball in 15 years.” (18:28)
• Critiques and Roasts: The group continuously teases each other about their on-court skills, especially when Dave admits feeling self-conscious for others who have truly awkward athletic moments:
  • “It was so bad...some people look like they’ve never thrown a ball in their life, and it’s just a little uncomfy.” – Dave Dameshek (12:34)

3. NBA Finals Game 2 Preview: Stakes and Psychological Edges

Timestamps: 19:38–29:16

• Is Game 2 the Pivotal Moment? Zaza argues that Game 2 could decide the series:
  • “If the Knicks win tonight, I think they sweep this series. If the Spurs win tonight, we got a series.” – Zaza (20:02)
  • Mike Ryan plays contrarian: “I do not feel that way...teams can win on the road; you can adjust.” (20:46)
• Team Momentum and Fatigue: They discuss whether the Spurs are emotionally drained after a tough series, referencing prior guest Nick Wright’s opinion and considering the “Game 7 hangover” stat (teams who sweep fare better entering a series).
  • “Maybe you do come out in Game number one and...there was a little bit of an emotional letdown.” – Zaza (23:17)
• Casual Fans and Wembanyama’s Star Power: The panel notes that casual viewers of the Finals might mystifyingly rate Karl-Anthony Towns higher than Victor Wembanyama based on Game 1’s small sample size.

4. Tactical Adjustments and Coaching Gamesmanship

Timestamps: 26:36–29:16

• Coaching Moves: Tony praises Knicks’ coach Mike Brown for staggering Jalen Brunson’s minutes to exploit moments when Wemby is off the floor:
  • “Anytime Wemby’s off the floor, Brunson’s able to create offense for himself in a way that he wasn’t when [Wemby] is there.” – Tony (28:11)
• Referee Spotlight: Noting Tony Brothers is officiating Game 2; Tony isn’t worried:
  • “I thought Wemby got a lot of calls. He kind of usually does. Getting the superstar treatment at 13 free throws.” – Tony (29:07)

5. Dynasty Talk: Knicks, Spurs, and the Shifting NBA Landscape

Timestamps: 33:44–35:44

• The group debates the narrative of Spurs as a potential dynasty, brought into question if the Knicks seize momentum.
  • “Are we definitely sure that the Spurs are bound for a dynasty...given the rules, the second apron, and everything else?” – Dave Dameshek (33:44)
  • “Why aren’t we talking about can the Knicks be a dynasty?” – Zaza (35:30)

6. Tony’s Top 5 Things To Look Forward To in Tonight’s Game

Timestamps: 35:53–44:33
Memorable Structured Segment

1. Spurs’ Bench Must Step Up

   • “Nobody else on their bench gave them anything...Spurs bench needs to come up in this game big if they want to win.” (35:56)

2. Karl-Anthony Towns’ Aggressiveness

   • “Kat needs to stay aggressive. Don’t just fall in love with the three ball...Wemby can’t guard you.” (36:33)
   • Zaza chimes in: “I don’t think we’re going to see Wembanyama on Karl-Anthony Towns very much tonight. It’s a disaster for San Antonio.” (36:55)

3. Knicks’ Two Big Lineup

   • Mitchell Robinson’s offensive rebounding will be key: “If he can grab offensive boards at the clip he usually does...like Mike Ryan in there...he’d be grabbing boards like a mofo.” (37:31)

4. Pace and Transition Play

   • “That’s how you slow down Wemby. Just continue to push the pace. Run, run, run...running him up and down is what really gets Wemby tired, according to Jeremy Sohan.” (41:58)

5. Jalen Brunson vs. ‘Area 51’ (Wemby & Stefan Castle)

   • “Jalen Brunson did great against Julian Champagnie, did great against Devin Vassell. But...I want to see how he’s going to react to Stefan Castle guarding him, to Fox, to Wemby in the paint—all those guys. That’s going to be the key for tonight.” (44:14)

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• Mike Ryan on Adaptation:
  “What does someone do when he realizes he doesn’t have it like that? I don’t got the handles, I don’t got the j. I go underneath the rim. And I eat.” (06:26)
• Dave Dameshek on Team Chemistry:
  “I’m a great teammate in pickup basketball with no stakes. I work hard at defending.” (10:09)
• Zaza on Fan Mentality in Finals:
  “The unfortunate part of Game 1...casual fans are just going to tune in...and they’re like, why aren’t we talking about that guy Karl-Anthony Towns? Like, he’s better than Wembanyama, right?” (25:00)
• Dave Dameshek Challenges Dynasty Assumptions:
  “Are we definitely sure that the Spurs are bound for Dynasty at this point, given the rules, the second apron and everything else?” (34:06)

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Fun Segues and Side-Quests

• Geography Lamentations: (40:32–43:30)
  Zaza admits he can’t identify Connecticut or Idaho on an unmarked map, leading to a comedic aside on the value of geography in adult life.
  • “Let me ask you something. Why do I need to know?... I’ve gotten this far.” – Zaza (43:17)
• Classic Le Batard Humor:
  Impersonation battles, blame games over on-screen doodles, and the constant interplay of friendly ridicule round out the hour’s lighter moments.

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Takeaways for Listeners

• The Spurs’ psychological and physical readiness after an exhausting series looms large.
• For Game 2, the performance of both benches, Kat’s attacking mindset, and who controls the tempo are seen as decisive factors.
• Jalen Brunson’s matchup against San Antonio’s best defenders (“Area 51”) is a focal point.
• Both teams are chasing not just a title, but a possible place at the start of a new NBA dynasty.
• The show is as much about the personalities and their chemistry as it is about the actual basketball—every debate, joke, and critique tells you something about sports culture and about this unique crew.

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New listeners will find this episode a solid window into the blend of analytical depth and levity that defines the Le Batard universe—where the NBA Finals are given their due, but no one takes themselves too seriously, and every conversation could become a trivia contest, therapy session, or roast at a moment’s notice.

Transcript

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[Zaza]

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[Zaza]

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[Tony]

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[Zaza]

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[Chris]

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[Zaza]

Dave D' Amshek is shocked to learn that I've never played street hockey.

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, you didn't?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Well, it was a foundational sport for, for young Dave and, and his contemporaries in elementary school, middle school, all the way up through high school PE class. I mean, at least once a week, the, the plastic hockey sticks and the orange rubber ball broke, broke out for all the kids. All the kids. A delightful sport, but I guess it makes sense down in Florida. That's not a thing. What it, what replaced it, though, what are the PE Classes comprised of? Soccer, I'm guessing. Couldn't be baseball.

[Zaza]

No, not a lot of soccer. Because you got to remember, at least for me, we're talking 30 years ago, soccer was not big at all here in the States and Really? No.

[Dave D' Amshek]

In Florida.

[Zaza]

No, no. And roller hockey, like roller hockey became a pretty big thing here, you know, around when the Panthers, shortly after the Panthers started, which was 1993. But like, I was, I was getting older at that point. I was like high school.

[Tony]

Played hoops. We played football. Like the sports that got intended.

[Zaza]

Basketball, football box.

[Chris]

You know, you are looking at a roller hockey goalie champion from when I was like 11. Cody shines and shootouts still have the headline.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Oh, well, there you go. Cody say there's some. There's some sense it was indoor with a ball.

[Zaza]

Cody slam paces drugs.

[Chris]

Like father, like son.

[Zaza]

Where was this headline?

[Chris]

This in a newspaper clipping. Like, I have it in. I have it somewhere. It's just.

[Zaza]

What newspaper?

[Chris]

I don't know. Actually, in hindsight, it might. My dad may have made it up also. My dad may have made it happen. It might have been in the Herald.

[Zaza]

I feel like that's possible.

[Chris]

Like, it was. Obviously it wasn't like. Yeah, first page.

[Dave D' Amshek]

He worked hard.

[Chris]

Page from page. It wasn't front page.

[Zaza]

Yeah, I feel like that's a possibly no. Boxball, basketball, football, kickball.

[Tony]

Burn ball.

[Zaza]

What's burn ball?

[Tony]

Oh, burn balls. You got a racquetball and you throw it against the wall, right? And then if you drop it, you. You got to run and touch the wall, and the person who's next to you grabs it and tries to hit you before you touch the wall.

[Zaza]

No, I played that, but I don't think we called it burn ball. But I know what you're talking about.

[Chris]

I didn't call it box ball. Didn't we call that four square?

[Zaza]

Yeah, box, four square. Same thing. Yeah, same thing. Yeah. Now that's what we played.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Kickball. Kickball. Kind of lame now.

[Zaza]

Nah, kickball's awesome.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Dodgeball.

[Zaza]

Yeah, dodgeball's good.

[Tony]

No, the.

[Zaza]

The.

[Dave D' Amshek]

The. All the utility ball.

[Tony]

The.

[Dave D' Amshek]

The reddish, you know, PE Ball.

[Zaza]

Yeah.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Is better used for dodgeball than kickball. We can all agree. Because you have the skunk who wants a pitch and bounce it in. And that. That's jive. When you start. When you start doing that crap. I'm not interested in it. Dodgeball all the way.

[Mike Ryan]

It's cute hearing all you non athletes talking about playing sports. I don't got it. Like us, right.

[Zaza]

All right, so explain. Explain to Dave. Explain to. To everyone out there what the activities that the two of you got involved in last night.

[Mike Ryan]

We played some pickup hoops. I'm a basketball guy now. I am now.

[Zaza]

You went to local y?

[Mike Ryan]

No, no, no, no. I went to more exclusive place. I'm not at liberty to reveal.

[Tony]

We can't say where. But it's a very nice place.

[Mike Ryan]

But it's a very nice place. You would never go and, yeah, you would never be invited, but, yeah, this is my third now consecutive week. I hadn't played basketball in a good 15 years. So first one, you know, the cardio. Got sent a message. Second one, feeling A little bit better. Third one. You know, we still have a ways to go, but I. I feel like I impressed.

[Zaza]

Full court.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, full court. I'm the oldest guy in this game by a pretty decent margin, I think. And look, I'm a. I'm a role player. I'm not out there like the other guys. I don't do the pull up transition three. I know what my role is, and that's to go under the glass and eat my.

[Tony]

Mike did a great job. To be honest. Like, it's the first time I've seen Mike play basketball. He was a mix between like prime Dennis Rodman and like, Mitchell Robinson.

[Zaza]

Prime.

[Tony]

Grabbing boards at all places, putting his body on the line.

[Mike Ryan]

Mitchell Robinson.

[Tony]

You had a little floater like Hartenstein, though.

[Mike Ryan]

I. I was one for one from the field.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Tony]

Had like a little floater from like a bunny from like 4 or 5ft away that he put in. But man, Mike was on the floor grabbing boards. He was.

[Zaza]

You were on the floor.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Ooh, ooh, ooh. Zaz, are you hearing what I'm hearing? Condescending patronizing tone in Tony. Oh, no, no, no, Mike.

[Zaza]

No, Mike. A little bit.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Voice was a little higher than it needed to be as he described.

[Mike Ryan]

Now, Mike, you don't think I'm prime Dennis Rodman? You don't think I'm prime Dennis Rodman?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Now listen, Mike. Mike can't score. I mean, completely awkward when he tries to dribble the ball.

[Mike Ryan]

Yes.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Doesn't know the rules necessarily.

[Mike Ryan]

No, I know my problem when I dribble.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Is that a nosket. He rebounded.

[Chris]

He's talking out there.

[Zaza]

My back screen, back door.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Oh, no.

[Mike Ryan]

There's a lot of communication. A lot of communication. Yeah. A lot of communication out there. I'm out there stealing the baseline boys. I know my role over there. And yes, I'm not a great dribbler. That's because I dribble the way that Pistol Pete taught me in that instructional video. Everyone else does this carry nonsense. I don't know how it's allowed. I'm out there calling travels and double dribbles and no one's listening to me. But Look, Tony, he's 10 day Tony. It is well known that Tony can hoop. I believe it or not. No, I can't. I'm pretty self aware. So what does someone who wants to play basketball and make positive contributions to his teammates do when he realizes he doesn't have it like that? I don't got the handles. I don't got the j. I go Underneath the rim. And I eat.

[Zaza]

Put it on the pole. Juju is Mike Ryan's basketball game a mix between prime Dennis Rodman and Mitchell Robinson?

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Tony]

On the offensive glass. He was just a Hoover dam down there. He was just grabbing every single board. That was probably on me as the captain of my team. I probably should have taken a look and be like I'm going to take Mike so I can box him out, fight him down low. Because the guy that was playing him was. Was maybe a little bit more leaky on the fast breaks than he should have been. Which is a whole nother cherry picker. Not a cherry picker, but he would take off early.

[Mike Ryan]

Guys. If I'm hearing Tony correctly, it seems like the other team had to adjust to Mike.

[Tony]

We should have is what we did. We ended up losing the series three games.

[Chris]

The guy that. The guy that went one for one from the field. We should have really dog.

[Mike Ryan]

It wasn't showing box scores. It wasn't.

[Tony]

I don't. His plus minus is like plus four. He just grabbing boards.

[Chris]

Everyone's on the court the whole time.

[Mike Ryan]

No, but you don't. What a winning player does.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I. I'm sorry, I gotta cut through this. You're the expert here. It sounds to me like Mike Ryan maybe is a basketball cuck. I'm not as good as the other guys. I'll just be over here if you need me. I'll just be mostly and observe.

[Tony]

I was.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I'm just here to help you guys out. You're the stars of the team. How say you, Zazlov?

[Zaza]

I don't know why you're bringing that to me as if I'm the expert.

[Mike Ryan]

You are. But look, I don't think anybody would confuse prime Dennis Rodman with being a C. Thank you very much.

[Tony]

That is true. There's one thing that I did want to say to Mike. A little bit of coaching.

[Dave D' Amshek]

That's self cucking.

[Mike Ryan]

It's not.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Look, you're out there playing basketball. He's got. Michael Jordan is his teammate. He's trying to win the ugly trophy that you get for winning the NBA title. You're playing pickup basketball. Why are you deferential to Tony and your teammates? You can't take shots. I've been. I've been admonished by better teammates in pickup basketball. Why are you shooting there games on the line? Because we're playing pickup basketball and there's no money on the line. What am I when I have to take a backseat to you fat.

[Mike Ryan]

I play sports to win. You know the Iconic Jimmy Butler practice in which he whooped up on the starters with the backups while he was wearing a Rolex. You know how many baskets Jimmy Butler made in that? According to legend?

[Guest Analyst]

Zero.

[Tony]

Zero.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I don't know, but I think he probably also made $18 million while I did it. What did you make for taking a backseat to Glenn in your pickup basketball game against.

[Mike Ryan]

There is not.

[Dave D' Amshek]

His name was Joel.

[Mike Ryan]

Maybe Glenvar Heights, but there was no Glenn.

[Tony]

I did want to bring up the. The telestrated.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I rebounded the whole game. I rebounded.

[Zaza]

Dave.

[Mike Ryan]

Second chance points, brother.

[Tony]

Exactly right.

[Mike Ryan]

Second chance points.

[Tony]

When you come down here, I want to see your game and see if you can hold the candles to Mike's.

[Dave D' Amshek]

It doesn't matter. Guess what I'm gonna be doing shooting and otherwise whatever I want to do in a picture.

[Tony]

Not if you're on my team. Not if you're on my team.

[Mike Ryan]

You bring your smoky gray ass down in the paint and let's body up. Let's. Let's see if you can bang with the big boys, huh?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Well, if I don't make the shot, which I probably won't, Mike will get the rebound. You won't make the shot.

[Mike Ryan]

You'll get a hand in your face with a like a 7 out of 10 closeout depending on which game we're playing. If it's game four, it's going to be about a four out of 10. But it's going to be close out.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I'm a great teammate in pickup basketball game with no stakes. I work hard at defending the.

[Tony]

Enough of the hate. Enough of the hate. Let's do some love.

[Mike Ryan]

40, brother. There's a stake every time I run it up and down the court. Not tear my Achilles.

[Tony]

Yes. Which Manny I think did hurt his knee.

[Zaza]

That is that my clothes out. That is the go to fear. Nowadays when you're 40 and you're playing pickup basketball, the go to fear is tearing the Achilles, Right?

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Tony]

It's something you got to put back in the. In the depths of your mind.

[Zaza]

It's never something you would think about when you were in your 20s, but now in your 40s. I hope I don't tear my Achilles.

[Tony]

So we're going to.

[Mike Ryan]

There's a right now getting the ball at the highest point.

[Guest Analyst]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

That's what I do.

[Tony]

I should got to put a. A a shit down there. So he lowers himself.

[Mike Ryan]

So you know what? You know what terrifies me when I see someone north of fear? Because they know all I gotta do is put a Little bow in my ribs.

[Tony]

An elbow right there between rib two and three. You're not going anywhere. So enough of the hate from Dave Damaschek. No, no, no, Dave. Don't even put your finger up. I'm gonna do a little bit of coaching here. A little bit of love for Mike Ryan, because there was one play in particular that I wanted to coach him up on the spot, but I hit the game winner, and everybody walked off the court, so I couldn't do that. So I'm gonna pull up the whiteboard right here, and I'm gonna get the telestrator, and I'm gonna do a little work. X's and O's here.

[Mike Ryan]

Was it a 3, 2 series? I thought it was 4 1.

[Tony]

No, it was 3 2.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Let's go.

[Tony]

Roll it. Wait, get it here on my. On my iPad here. Here we go.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I'm like Kurt Rambis.

[Tony]

Okay, clothesline somebody.

[Zaza]

Tony, how's the telestrator working out for you?

[Tony]

I don't know. I see your ugly mug on it. I can't change that.

[Zaza]

Yeah, it's not going so great.

[Tony]

Suffice to say, I'm gonna get gq. Hold on.

[Chris]

All right, this one, not my fault.

[Zaza]

While Tony figures out how to use the telestrator so he could break down a combination of prime, Dennis Rodman and Mitchell Robinson. And show got after it.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I once, I have to say, this is. There are moments when you're with grown up fellas and things get so One time, I, I, I used to write on the man show, and one time early on, we went outside to have a. A group football catch. Yeah, let's just go outside a little bit to throw it around a little bit. And one guy attempted a throw, and it was so bad. It was. You know, some people look like they've never thrown a ball in their life, and it's a little uncomfy. But one guy threw it so poorly that it transcended ribbing.

[Zaza]

What made it so poor? Like, you throw silly.

[Dave D' Amshek]

You throw silly. He's like, oh, my.

[Zaza]

Like, was it right foot in front? Like, like, what made it so poor?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Did you see it? Was that. Yeah, yeah. I mean, hard to describe, really. Have to mimic it. And I don't think I can because I'm just intrinsically athletic in every movement I make. So it's hard for me to mimic awkwardness, physical awkwardness. But, yeah, it was one of those ones where the guy threw the ball and I'm still whispering because I'm embarrassed for him. But everybody turned to each other and was like, oh, my God. Did you just see Blank throw the ball? Oh, my God. Is he. Did he grow up around people? Did he grow up around guys at all? It was, it was at the man show, no less. So it was especially uncomfortable.

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[Tony]

Don LeBatard to US residents.

[Zaza]

Oh, wow. It's in there. It's better.

[Tony]

You think I haven't been practicing stugats.

[Zaza]

I didn't realize we had a substitute. Complicated legacy brought to you by headquarters.

[Tony]

Toyota 441 Power Line Road. Second down to nine.

[Zaza]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Tony, you're back.

[Tony]

We're back.

[Mike Ryan]

We got it working now.

[Tony]

Yeah, we got it working. We're gonna pull up our whiteboard here so we can do a little bit of coaching for Mike. So the issue was on a game winner here, right? We had a guy in the corner. Oh, no. Hold on a second. Roll it.

[Dave D' Amshek]

This isn't humiliating.

[Tony]

Okay, so we have. So we have our. We have our guy in the corner. I have the ball here at the top of the key.

[Zaza]

The X is normally the defense, but go ahead.

[Tony]

You can do whatever you want. That's fine.

[Zaza]

So weird defensive formation to be on the outside of the offensive player, but go ahead.

[Chris]

Looks like.

[Zaza]

No.

[Mike Ryan]

Also, I'm not. I'm man enough to admit I just learned that. I'm putting that in my notes.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

If you want to be.

[Tony]

If you want to be really nitpicky about it, sure, fine, whatever.

[Chris]

These are just stick figure guys.

[Tony]

Not the point. Not the point. So here's the issue, right? This is Mike right here. Mike is playing defense on a post defender. I've got the ball. Basically, it's the top of the key. And what I want to do is I want to work right this way because I know my guys come in a pick here. And then once, the moment that I have an open shot right here, I'm going up for the game winner because I had just hit 12 minutes before that. So the issue was that Mike did not travel with his guy to get on the other side of the screen. Right. So he stayed down low in no man's land at the free throw line and allowed me to shoot a shot. Mike, your rebuttal to that. Because you stayed in no man's land, you know, you got a shooter on your. You got to get over to be able to contest a shot, even if your guys.

[Mike Ryan]

But you're a skill player, Tony, you make the pass to the guy camping out right under the hoop.

[Chris]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

I got to make a choice.

[Tony]

I did many times now.

[Mike Ryan]

I did a half measure. I should have just scrambled all the way. But yes, no, this was a teachable moment. And it was after that we went on an incredible run, didn't lose a game.

[Tony]

So yeah, so you just got to come up here and make sure that you seal so the shooter doesn't have that. Even if your guy's going to come around and you're worried about the shot here, your help side's got to be there.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, my help side wasn't there. My help side wasn't there. I was. I was aware enough to recognize that. And also you have to imagine I have the cardio of a 40 year old man that hadn't played basketball in 15 years. So all in all, though, prime Dennis Rodman is a good starting point for a guy that's, you know, playing out there with real hoopers guys. Tony, he's legit good. He's great. So much so that he is aware enough to know that next game he plays against me, he has to bang down inside because he has to adjust because I'm the X factor or the O factor. I don't know, Zaz, you tell me.

[Zaza]

The X is the defense. O is offense. You know, offense. Anyway, am I the only.

[Dave D' Amshek]

It sounds like a great time though. Zaza. Tony yelling at you, coaching everybody. No, you should be over here. And Mike Ryan go. I rebound good. And I'll check you 37ft from the rim because I'm an old man now and that's all I can do is defend you super hard. And. And boy, those are not the D. Glenn. Glenn out there making hay, raining threes down.

[Zaza]

Tony's drawing a place for the defense, confusing.

[Tony]

I didn't scream, not one time.

[Mike Ryan]

Tony doesn't yell. Tony doesn't yell. In the huddle, though. You could hear. Man, tattoos is killing us.

[Zaza]

Am I the only one who thinks that the finals are on the line tonight? And I, I, I never do this.

[Mike Ryan]

I don't think so anymore. Now that we've seen so many game sevens, one on the road, I think that they can adjust still. Like if a team is down two.

[Zaza]

Oh, I'm not saying the finals end tonight, but, but I, I do feel like it's on the line tonight.

[Mike Ryan]

Meaning what is the difference?

[Zaza]

Well, the difference is if the, if the Knicks win tonight, I think that, like, I think they're going to win the championship. If the Knicks win tonight, I think they have a chance of sweeping this series. If the spurs win tonight, we got a series.

[Chris]

So if the Knicks win tonight, you think they sweep, but it doesn't end tonight if the Knicks win.

[Zaza]

No, I am making that case. I. What are you confused about?

[Chris]

A minute ago you were just like, it can't end tonight.

[Zaza]

You lost me.

[Mike Ryan]

I lost you.

[Zaza]

Yeah, you lost.

[Chris]

You lost us.

[Mike Ryan]

Gaslighting.

[Zaza]

Does anyone else. I start. Okay, let me start again. Does anyone else feel like the series is on the line tonight? Because if the Knicks win.

[Mike Ryan]

I do not feel that way.

[Zaza]

Raise your hand please when you want to talk.

[Mike Ryan]

I do not feel that way because, you know, teams can win on the road now and you can adjust.

[Zaza]

I know teams can win on the road, but if the Knicks win tonight, I feel like they're not going to lose another game this series. If the Knicks win tonight, they'll have won 13 in a row. Rather unstoppable. Okay, all of those wins, except for one by double figures, they'll have won 13 in a row. They'll have won both games in San Antonio when we thought that San Antonio, Oklahoma City was for the NBA championship. And now the Knicks are coming back home. Like, if the Knicks. And they went. The Knicks will have won 13 in a row. And you think that the spurs are going to win four out of five. There's no chance. So that's what I'm saying. If New York wins tonight, they're going to win the championship. If San Antonio wins tonight, okay, we got ourselves a series. That's all I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

[Tony]

It was well said.

[Zaza]

That's what I'm saying.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I'm with you, Zaz. And I am somebody who, and I refuse to look it up to verify what my sense Is which is that in the 21st century, home field, home court, home ice advantage is a mirage. I think we have talked ourselves into that being super important. I don't think it is. But in this case, to your point, as I think it is, if The spurs are down.02 and now, and I don't want to overstate it and swoon like Ben Stiller and all the rest of them up there, but going into MSG, the electricity in that joint for 22 year old kids, and keep in mind, that's what Wemby and Castle and those cats all are to go in there. It's too big a spot. I don't think I. What the hell is that? What the. What the. What the hell is that?

[Zaza]

Well, what's going on here?

[Dave D' Amshek]

You're demonizing me because. Because you want to be a prime. Rick Fox, Mike Ryan, I'm Ben Wallace. I rebound good and pick up basketball. I don't make any money for it. But. But Glenn respects my hard work.

[Zaza]

Dave has big, big horns and it looks like a weird looking beard. Oh, boy. And now. Yeah, that's a penis. Yeah, that's a penis. You got a penis on your face.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Oh, we are.

[Zaza]

Yep.

[Dave D' Amshek]

It seems like. It seems like some people down in Miami.

[Mike Ryan]

Guys, this is a zeppelin.

[Zaza]

He did not have together.

[Mike Ryan]

Good year.

[Zaza]

Oh, there. Oh, we were. Oh, it wasn't a penis. It's a blimp. Oh, everything's cockpit at the front. There you go.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Almost passed out from the baby.

[Zaza]

Let me, let me, let me.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Accurate.

[Zaza]

Let me make clear here while if the Knicks win tonight, and I think they can. I don't think they will. If the Knicks win tonight, they're going to sweep this series. I think the spurs are going to win tonight. And you know what? I'm man enough to admit that I was wrong. And the point that I'm making is when we had Nick Wright on a couple days ago and I challenged him, I, you know, I asked him about it where Nick felt that it was going to be a thing, that the spurs are gonna be like emotionally drained because of what happened against Oklahoma City. And I said, nah, I think that's nonsense. I don't know, maybe there is a little bit of. We come out in game number one. You just came off this massive, emotionally draining series when Yama. It means so much to him. He's crying at the end of the series, which I like. I don't think there's a problem with that. But maybe you do come out in game number one and maybe there Was a little bit of an emotional letdown. Like, I pushed back on that with Nick, but I don't know, maybe. What, Why'd you write that?

[Dave D' Amshek]

That's undermining.

[Zaza]

Maybe there is something to that.

[Tony]

You're making a good point. I couldn't tell because you said it. Said you were a cuck on the screen, but you were making good points. But the point being, when you look at there's a stat that's been floating around, it's like teams that come off a game seven versus teams that come off a sweep. The team that comes off the sweep is usually way better.

[Zaza]

Well, the Knicks are three. And, oh, now this playoff in that scenario, right?

[Tony]

So it's like you're looking at the, the evidence of. All right, these guys have been rested. These guys have been playing great basketball. These guys just came through a war of attrition with another team that was defending champions. And like, I, I don't know, but everything I see, everything I see, like, prime Dennis Rodman next to me is the Knicks playing together and playing rested and the spurs kind of playing a little bit too fast.

[Zaza]

Yeah, I, I, I, I think San Antonio is going to win tonight, and I think we're gonna see that. Yeah, Game one was a little bit of because, you know, when Banyama had the low energy to start the game, and they've been the reason I pushed back again. So. Oh, you know, maybe he's tired. Like, we felt that after game, what, like game five, last series, who's awesome in game six, awesome in game seven, they won them both. There have been a couple instances this playoff where, ooh, is Wembanyama tiring? And then the next game he comes out and he's gangbusters. And I think, I think we're gonna wind up seeing that tonight. I think Gwenpanyama is going to be really great. I, I do think, though, the unfortunate part of game one, you know, the NBA finals are going to attract casual fans, right? Casual fans are just going to tune in and it's like, oh, it's the finals. Let's watch. Oh, I've been hearing a lot about this. It A, it's a New York team. B, I've been hearing a lot about this Wembanyama. He's an alien, right? People definitely watched game one, and we're like, why aren't we talking about that guy? Call Anthony Townes. Like, he's better than Wembanyama, right? Like, you're getting casual fans who are watching these teams essentially for the first time, who Think Towns is definitely a lot better than Wembanyama.

[Guest Analyst]

Tonight's the big one.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Right.

[Guest Analyst]

Because the adjustment that Wemby makes against Katt and others, it's not just him, it's Mitch Johnson. It's like, what can you do to help get this guy going alongside everybody else? Because, yes, there are some things that Wemby will have to do from a. A physicality standpoint in terms of just making shots. But realistically, like, there was a lot done to him and done to that team and they still had a chance to win with a couple of minutes left.

[Zaza]

Yes. Like, the spurs were bad. We could all admit bad. They were bad, bad. In game one. They were up by 14 in the third quarter.

[Guest Analyst]

They were up by 14 in and third quarter. They were up with two minutes to go.

[Zaza]

Yes.

[Guest Analyst]

After being down by eight just a couple of minutes earlier, they made the comeback first.

[Zaza]

And. And like we're having this whole discussion yesterday about how the Knicks were terrible. The Knicks were terrible and they still won game one on the road in the finals. And I feel like you can make the exact same case about San Antonio. San Antonio was terrible in Game one. They're not going to be worse than they were there. Wembanyama is likely not going to be worse than he was there. And they still. It's not like Wembanyama was great in three quarters. Then he was bad in the fourth quarter. He was not good the whole game. And they were up by 14 in the third quarter.

[Guest Analyst]

And it was only when they took Wemby out, by the way, that the Knicks went on that run. Like San Antonio dominated at the beginning of the game, which is something that they do often. The Knicks came out a little bit rusty. San Antonio's taken leads throughout. I mean, in that Thunder series, it felt like they got off to a good start. In every single game, it was whether or not the Thunder came back. And now what you have going into the second half is okay. If you take that lead again, Mitch Johnson, what are you going to do in terms of what your lineups look like in those cornet minutes to make sure that New York doesn't come back and start to get going? Not just because they get back into the game, but it was the first time their offense looked competent at all in that game. And Josh Hart started making his impact. So, you know, what do you do about Jason Hart? I don't know.

[Tony]

The one thing you got to do is give Mike Brown credit. I think that they. He. He game planned in the middle of the Game so perfectly where anytime Wemby was out on the floor, he would give Jalen Brunson a bit of a blow beforehand and then get him in when Wemby wasn't there so he could attack the rim in a way that he can't do when Wemby is there. So I was surprised. I was like, oh, wow, they're really playing the matchups well, where anytime Wemby's off the floor, Brunson's able to create offense for himself in a way that he wasn't when he's there.

[Zaza]

Do you care about the referees for game two tonight? Now, we already had Scott Foster do game number one. He's the extender. All right, But. But that was, you know, there's nothing to extend in game one. All right, but that could mean that we're gonna see him again later on in the series if you got game number one. What if I told you that the crew chief tonight, Tony Brothers, because, yes, that'd been weird if, like I said that, but he was.

[Tony]

Yeah. If it was somebody else.

[Zaza]

Yeah, he is. Yeah. That wasn't a fake out. He is the crew chief tonight.

[Tony]

I'm not too worried. I'm not too worried about it. I thought Wemby got a lot of calls. He kind of usually does. He's getting. Getting the superstar treatment at 13 free throws.

[Zaza]

Yeah.

[Tony]

So it's like, can Wemby be aggressive enough to warrant that amount of free throws or is he going to play a passive game from the outside? I think that's the issue.

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[Mike Ryan]

Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?

[Tony]

I know it well. It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo.

[Tony]

Walking like this.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Tony]

It has that effect on people.

[Mike Ryan]

It does. You usually take the credit for it. But again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hootin and hollering.

[Zaza]

Keep it Cuervo.

[Tony]

Keep it Cuervo, baby.

[Mike Ryan]

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[Zaza]

No one else here is willing to do a Trump or a Biden.

[Tony]

That's not true, Dan.

[Zaza]

Okay, Tony.

[Tony]

You can catch a thousand impersonations.

[Zaza]

That's not bad, man.

[Mike Ryan]

Finally.

[Zaza]

Pretty good.

[Mike Ryan]

Stugach.

[Tony]

Yours is terrible.

[Zaza]

You just gotta get a little redder, a little pinker.

[Tony]

You're right there, man.

[Zaza]

Yours is not that. You're biting me.

[Mike Ryan]

What do you Mean, oh, his is good.

[Zaza]

That's actually not bad.

[Tony]

Not terrible.

[Zaza]

That's not terrible. We gotta come together

[Dave D' Amshek]

a little George

[Mike Ryan]

Bush in that one.

[Zaza]

This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Foreign. 15 years, by the way. Just as a side note with Wemby's behavior at the foul line, if. Come on, let's. Let's pace it up, fella. You know, the next decade and a half, we ain't got the time for you to take nine seconds every single free throw in the here and now, though I'm one fascinated by the analysis around, as you say, with the casual fans and so much of the conversation around the spurs is Wemby is just one guy and who, you know, he's just the whole team. As though the other guys, you just don't know who they are yet. The idea that Harper and. And otherwise aren't going to play themselves into our lives.

[Zaza]

You just bailed on the rest of the teammates there. You just said, forget it. Just bailed on them. Harper and the rest of the guys.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I was going to start. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't like listing guys off. Then that's all you're doing is reading a roster.

[Zaza]

Yeah.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I do, though wonder we have assumed or I have been a part of perpetuating the idea if they get this one, the spurs, it's going to be potentially like the next three or five. But now I do wonder, let's say the Knickerbockers do get this one. Are we definitely sure that the spurs are bound for Dynasty at this point, given the rules, the second apron and everything else? I mean, we talked to Michelle Beetle a month ago and said how many will be a satiating number of titles in the Wemby area? And she said. Did she say four?

[Zaza]

Did she say four? She expects four.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I mean, you know, they're not going to be keeping all those cats. Right.

[Zaza]

It's. It's a good question. It's normally a debate that I don't like having because the way the pendulum swings in these NBA playoff series. Like, we're talking right now, I'm talking right now like the Knicks, even though I picked the spurs to win the series, we're talking right now like the Knicks have a chance of sweeping the series. But if the spurs come out and they win tonight, which I expect them to, we're then going to get back to, yeah, this series is going to go exactly how we all thought it would, which is it's a long series. It's going to be A classic series. It's probably going to go seven and either team can win. So, like, we now have the. If the Knicks win the series or the Knicks sweep the series, are we sure that the spurs are going to be this dynasty that we've all been talking about? I think it's a good question, but we could totally be feeling a completely different way by the end of tonight where the spurs win or like, yeah, this is expected and the spurs are still.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Well, here's the scenario for you. Knicks win this one, then OKC trades for Giannis, then they become the favorite to come out of the west. And now we're getting down the road of the spurs, who are an inevitable dynasty, not having even won a title yet.

[Zaza]

Why, why aren't we talking about can the Knicks be a dynasty?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Well, a fair point. Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

They're on pace to win their third trophy just this season.

[Zaza]

Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, that's a trouble winner, folks.

[Dave D' Amshek]

X and O it for us. Tony.

[Zaza]

Tony or oh, and exit. Tony, I am going to come to you now. It is your time to shine. Do you have a top five for us for tonight's game?

[Tony]

Top five things to look forward to in tonight's game, boys.

[Zaza]

All right, all right, all right.

[Tony]

Number five. No Oli. What can the spurs do about their bench? Obviously, Dylan Harper has been playing decent minutes. Played 28 minutes last game. Got to play probably in the mid 30s if the spurs really want a chance to win. But nobody else on their bench gave them anything. 6 Man of the year like you said, Zaz Kelton Johnson better than Jaime Hawkins Jr. Didn't show much better. Didn't show it yesterday or a couple days ago. So they need something from their bench because Harper's going to play a lot more minutes, I think probably at the cost of Dear and Fox.

[Zaza]

Got to get a little something from Cornette. You got to get something from the offensively, defensively. You got to get some for Cornette.

[Tony]

Spurs bench needs to come up in this game big if they want to win. Okay, Number four, Kat needs to stay aggressive. Don't just stay back there and fall in love with the three ball. Wemby can't guard you. You're too big, you're too fast. Get around them, pin your ears down, get downhill on Wemby, create foul trouble for him. Like that's the recipe for cats staying aggressive, going to the hoop.

[Zaza]

I don't think we're going to see Wembanyama on Karl Anthony Towns very much to night. It's a disaster for San Antonio And I like Karl Anthony Towns. I'm just going to say that I know Carl Anthony Towns is someone who gets a lot of shit from the Knicks fan. The Knicks fan was trying to trade him after they were trailing two games to one to Atlanta. Karl Anthony Towns has done nothing but win over the last few years. The last three consecutive seasons last year in New York, the previous two at Minnesota. He's in the conference finals every year and now this year he's in the NBA Finals. I don't appreciate the things that you're drawing on the screen, but I am a fan of Karl Anthony Towns. If the Knicks win, I am going to be happy for him.

[Tony]

The Knicks need to win the two big lineup. When you put Mitchell Robinson in there, you need to be able to overcome his offensive limitations. But if he can grab offensive boards at the clip that he usually does and how he has grabbed them against the spurs like Mike Ryan passed like Mike Ryan. If you had Mike Ryan in there in the two big lineup with him and Cat, he'd be grabbing boards like a mofo. So they need to win the two big. The two big lineup.

[Zaza]

Chris, what are you all excited about over there?

[Chris]

Just, you know, living life. I did go 80 and 2 and 82. 0.

[Tony]

So you're doing that while doing the show?

[Chris]

Well, I'm just, you know, I'm Two Bird situation, is it? Yes, I did go.

[Zaza]

I mean, everything went around during the same time.

[Chris]

Ever since Dan went 82. 0. I just have been addicted to this game and I haven't come close until I just went 80 and 2.

[Zaza]

You saw that yesterday, right, Dave, for the very first time, we had dan play 82. 0. We did it live on the air. We, we, we use the, the screen for the game so everyone could see us playing alive. And Dan went 82 and oh, first try.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I think, listen, in this cynical world we live in, every once in a while you got to remind people who you are. And I thought that was a masterful moment there. Now, now some people Questions about Dan LeBatard's right to weigh in on whatever he wants in the world of sports for at least the next decade.

[Zaza]

Now, some people thought it was rigged. That that was so. And that's why I said yesterday was, is there any way that people would think that we rigged it? Why would anyone say it was rigged like we, we did it live on the air? Yeah, it was absolutely. Now if you want to say, you know, you shouldn't be allowed to use the, the re spins, you know, team era, you shouldn't be doing classic mode, where if you're using the stats, I

[Tony]

saw a lot of. Why don't you use iq? Because it's Dan, and he'll bail on the bit in two seconds if he sees.

[Zaza]

Right, right. Okay.

[Chris]

I just had Bob Pettit on one of my teams.

[Tony]

Rest in peace, by the way.

[Zaza]

Dave, do you want to. Have you played 82? No.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Yet I haven't. I've been consumed by Geosports. Are you familiar with that?

[Zaza]

No. What's that question? What's that?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Well, it's. Listen, it's. It's all the rage as well. Amidst this 82. 0. It's five questions daily that you get, and basically you have to put a marker down there you go on the big blue marble to ID the location that he's calling for in a sports related question. It's fun. Let's do it as a gang right now, shall we?

[Zaza]

All right. All right, sure. Do you want to. Do want to lead us along here, Dave? Because I don't know the game.

[Dave D' Amshek]

I can't read it. The words are too small. Go ahead, Tashay. Did you type this one out there with the tiny words so no one could read them? What does it say? What's the question?

[Chris]

What say you, Tasha?

[Zaza]

The question. I'm being told it's very small, but it's. ESPN has been broadcasting from its headquarters since 1989, and it's essentially asking, where is ESPN broadcast headquarters?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Oh, Zaz, this is your wheelhouse. You should be able to put that within a couple of miles.

[Tony]

It's.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Well, it's Bristol.

[Zaza]

Oh, so it's Bristol, Connecticut, but I have to actually use the mouse and point to it.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Yeah, you, you.

[Tony]

I can find it. Zoom in. I got it.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Zoom in.

[Tony]

Connecticut.

[Zaza]

I live. I live. I got no idea.

[Dave D' Amshek]

You got it?

[Tony]

I got it. Zoom in. Zoom in on Connecticut. It's.

[Zaza]

Well, how do you know that that's Connecticut?

[Tony]

Because. What do you mean?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Because I live already.

[Tony]

I live there. I know, exactly.

[Zaza]

Hold on a second, Mike. Why you look at me like that? If I give you a map, you know which one's Connecticut?

[Tony]

Yeah.

[Zaza]

I don't have a clue. Seriously, There are so many small little states. You don't know what state is? Which state?

[Dave D' Amshek]

You couldn't write in the name of every state?

[Zaza]

Not in the Northeast. No, I have no idea which one's Connecticut. New York. New Jersey.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Yeah.

[Tony]

No idea what New York is.

[Zaza]

I have. I know the vicinity.

[Mike Ryan]

It does get a little dicey when you get to New Hampshire.

[Zaza]

I Have no idea what. What any of those states. I have no idea what.

[Chris]

You know that little one?

[Zaza]

You know the little one? Rhode Island. Yeah, but where is it? I don't know where it is.

[Dan LeBatard]

To the right, next to Connecticut.

[Zaza]

Like, I'm going to New York tonight. I know I'm going to a general vicinity in the northeast of the United States. I don't know exactly where we're. Scratton. I don't know any of this further

[Tony]

down to the west. All right, so if you zoom in on Connecticut, New Havens on the bottom, which is why you can take the m. The. The train over to New York City. So you had to go a little bit north and a little bit west.

[Zaza]

All right.

[Tony]

If you don't zoom in on it, I can't show you because we're in the Rocky Mountains right now, so.

[Zaza]

All right, try it again. Tell them again.

[Tony]

Number two, besides Christmas, it's pace for the Knicks. That's how you slow down Wemby. Just continue to push the pace. Run, run, run. Get in transition. Quick baskets. If the ball goes through the hoop, you push through. That's the physicality. Yes, we'll wear on him, but running him up and down is what really gets Wemby tired, according to Jeremy Sohan.

[Zaza]

So, Dave, you play this game every day?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. It's only. It's been around for only a couple of weeks now.

[Zaza]

The next question is, Ashton Genty rushed for X amount of yards from this place. Do you know where that.

[Dave D' Amshek]

Yeah, we should all be able to know. That one with the blue turf. I don't know exactly, though. Where in the state of Idaho. The Capitol.

[Zaza]

You.

[Mike Ryan]

You.

[Zaza]

If I gave you this map, you know which one, which state is Idaho?

[Dave D' Amshek]

Of course, we all do. I'm not trying to be. I'm not trying to be an ass, but come on. And we all know what Idaho is, right?

[Zaza]

I have no idea which one of those again. I know around what part of the country Idaho might be in, but I, I don't know which one's Idaho.

[Dave D' Amshek]

So they weren't doing. They weren't doing floor hockey and they weren't doing geography. What the hell was going on in Florida's public schools?

[Zaza]

Let me ask you something. Why do I need to know?

[Tony]

Good point. You ever going to go to Idaho?

[Zaza]

I've gotten this far. Why do I need to know?

[Dave D' Amshek]

But listen, why. Don't. Don't dance for the man. Don't, don't. Don't be a cuck for the man. Please. That. Listen this jive about what we need to know what he decided we needed to know. Math is the great place to evaluate this.

[Zaza]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Dave D' Amshek]

We need to know how to add, we need to know how to subtract. I can make a case that the multiplication tables make life a little bit easier for you as a grown up. Going forward. Up to 10, up to 12. You should be able to. To do your. Your long division. I don't know how much I've really used a lot of long division as a grown up after that. What the hell are we doing? Who needs algebra? Who need. Who needs any of that crap just hours of my life flush down the toilet because the man decided I needed to know that crap. Geography, where you're going. Now that's useful stuff.

[Tony]

I like this guy. Number one, Jalen Brunson versus Area 51. Now, for some of you, for some of you people that don't know Area 51, that's what they call Wemby and Stefan Castle. Area 51. The aliens.

[Zaza]

Ah. Skip Bayless redubbed him though. The earthling.

[Tony]

I know this is prior to me.

[Zaza]

Might catch on. I don't know.

[Tony]

Yeah. So Jalen Brunson did great against Julian Champagne, did great against Devin Vassell. But against guys not named those two names, he was not very good. So I want to see how he's going to react to Stefan Castle guarding him, to Fox, to Wemby in the paint, all those guys. That's going to be the key for tonight.