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A
Do you know what today is?
B
It's our anniversary, baby. You with me. Hey, by the way, happy anniversary to you and me, Juju. It's been right around one year since I started coming on the alley OOP for show, man.
A
I ain't even realized that I was thinking about tonight's game sixes, but that is a fun fact. I ain't even realize it. Time be going so fast and you be so stressed out about this and that that you forget to look around and smell the flowers, man. Damn. We got these game sixes tonight. We got calves, pistons, we got spurs, wolves.
B
I put more money on Detroit for game five, bruh.
A
Last night, the night before last, I mean, Trista is the funniest person in the world. Last episode she was like, you know what? When the Detroit Pistons be winning, I, I just throw a little bit more on them and they are going to lose this game.
B
I keep betting on the Pistons bigger and bigger amounts every game. All it takes is 20, 40, 60, $80.
A
And I feel like my sister must have threw $100 on their ass in the fourth quarter because what a piss poor performance that was.
B
Down the scratch, they were up nine with two and a half minutes to go. And I was like, yeah, let's put some more money on them. Let's put some more money on them. If you look at my bet slips like, like if you go to my DK account and you look at all of the bets that I've lost, like just click the tab that says lost is literally like Detroit Pistons, Detroit Pistons, Detroit Pistons, Detroit Pistons, Detroit. It's like 10 or 12 bets that I've lost, bro.
A
Speaking of them Pistons though, bro, you said it. Nine point lead with a couple minutes left, bro. You got to close that door, man. Especially during the playoffs. The playoffs, we ain't talking practice, we talking the playoffs, man. I think that Kate 2 lacks a days of at the end of the game, man, got script by Max screws like what. What stood out from you, from Jalen during bench the whole fourth quarter. What stood out from you from the game, bro?
B
I think number one, you know, and I like to always look forward when I'm watching something and I'm like, you know, you see for example, like somebody talk about a player in a post game like, or an exit interview and you're like, huh, I wonder what they're trying to say, right? Jalen Duran was a restrictive free agent last summer and they couldn't come to a deal. And then he becomes an all star. He's averaging 20 and 10. And now he's got the single largest drop off for a player in playoff history, averaging 10 points a game in, in the playoffs. But also getting benched for B Ball Paul, who did not play a single minute in the first three quarters. And it was the right move. And now you're thinking to yourself, what does that mean for Jalen Duran this off season? Is there a possibility that Jalen Duran is going to have to take less money or have to take money somewhere else? Because if I'm the Pistons and I've got money to spend. Yeah, you know who we need? We need other scorers. We don't need to be spending 40 million on somebody who can't even play in the fourth quarter. In Game 5, we got B Ball Paul. Let's just let B Ball Paul and Isaiah Stewart rock out and maybe we can spend some money on, I don't know, a LeBron James.
A
Yeah, right.
B
Or somebody. You know what I mean?
A
Yeah.
B
Somebody that's not Duncan Robinson who, who has played phenomenally but has back injury. Or Tobias Harris, who really played not very well in this game, the first game in like six games. He hasn't had 20. But like, you need a backcourt or a, or a Robin to Cade. What you have is a bunch of Alfreds on this Detroit Pistons team and no Robin, bruh.
A
I ain't gonna lie to you, bro. As close to Robin can be. As you just said, basketball, Paul, man, like, bro, 10 points, eight rebounds. Didn't play quarter one, two nor three, 10 points, eight rebounds, two blocks. Important, important blocks. Like right, bro. So if I'm, if I'm Coach Bickerstaff, I'm damn near considering starring basketball, bro, because he is out there literally producing for you. His availability is paying off. Jalen Duran's availability is stanking up the joint, bruh. Like you got. He not even getting the rebounds that I think a person of his stature should get. He had like three, four rebounds over two games. That can't be the case, bro. And with the effort, the defensive effort Assar Thompson is putting forward, like folks, is they stepping. Danis Jenkins stepping up? They're. They're giving you something. But we need our other star, our other All Star. To God, just give us something, bro. Can you give us something?
B
He was A minus 16. Jalen Duran and B Ball Paul, he was A plus 0. But he only played 10 minutes, went 4 for 7. The thing about, about Jalen Duran, like you said, is he's the other all Star. Wasn't Tobias that Made the all star team. It wasn't Osar who. I thought Osar played great defense, really. Probably they could have had the ball with one and a half seconds left to go if that foul call would have been called. And then Detroit's now at the free throw line. Oer is good for one point out of two in the free throw line. And Detroit doesn't even have to be in overtime. They don't even have to be in this situation. That's neither here nor there. Because at the end of the day, you still gave up. You didn't score the rest of the two, two and a half minutes. You did not score a point.
A
Right. When I saw Tobias Harris, he hit that three and then he did the. I think this was call 12. I'm not sure what he did right here.
B
I think it's the three point phone.
A
Oh, my goodness, bro. I was like, no. In my head on the couch, I said, I don't like that. Yeah, it didn't, it wasn't, it wasn't the sign. But I was just like, that's rich.
B
But did you even know that Kevin Herger played in this game, Bro, I
A
ain't even see my boy. Salute to red velvet, bruh. He might can use a couple more minutes. I saw Sasser stepped up style, bro. As much as you, everybody. I'm not mad at nobody on that roster, bro. Like, because we said it all. You said it for sure all year. That roster is not constructed for championship competition just yet. We gonna have. We gonna move. How Cade move K look good for three quarters. We look good for three quarters. Kate. Look, lacks of days of clear in the fourth. We lack today's goal in the fourth. So I don't think it's. It's the blame of anybody outside of. And I, I hate to keep doing this, but Jaylen Duran, bro, what are like, you gotta do something. Elbow somebody. Punch somebody. Do anything, brother. Pump us up, bro, because you damn near should get benched next game. I'm g. To put it out there. I don't even think he should play next game.
B
I also think Juju, I think that's a great point, you know, and there's. There's a level of responsibility to the roster construction, but yeah, even when Cade's not taking shots, he's still involved in the offensive set. Yeah, a hundred percent of the time. I didn't know this. I mean, I could have guessed, but Cade has the highest usage rate of anyone in the playoffs outside of Embiid. But MB didn't play all the games. Yeah. So it's Cade Cage K's usage rate is 33%. That's higher than Luca's regular season usage. This guy has the ball in his hands so much that they resorted to blitzing him, which I thought was actually a great defensive game plan that I would instill more. Especially when you go back to Cleveland, just take the ball out of his hands and make Tobias Harris beat you. I think that's really fair. But, like, Kate is required to do everything, and eventually the body can only withstand so much of that usage before you start to get tired. And so if your usage rate is that way, quarter one, quarter two, quarter three, quarter four, when they need you, now you're gassed. Maybe you should be giving the ball to Tobias in the beginning of the game. Maybe you should get the ball to Dennis Jenkins more in the beginning of the game. Maybe you should give those lobs to Isaiah Stewart and Jalen Dern in the beginning of the game. It's just a tough situation. And like, listen, Caris Liver was awesome in game four. He stunk in game five.
A
Like, seven shot attempts on, like. Yeah, I. I feel you, bro. Like, I'm damn near. I forgot all about Isaiah Stewart yesterday. He did a phenomenal job, in my opinion. My boy even knocked down a tray ball. Like, bro, we getting stuck. We getting everything, bro. We getting everything. We getting everything we need from everybody up and down the roster, bruh. Jalen. But at the same time, speaking of being tired and we. What, you can't take no more of in. In. In the form of just this basketball world, referees. Look, bruh, we shouldn't have to come on here every damn episode and tell y' all what a file is. What? What? It's not a foul. The end of the game. It, bro. In my opinion, Tony Brothers made a vibe decision and said, you know what? Y' all just gave up a nine point lead in two minutes. You. You don't deserve this foul. On what earth is this? Not a foul with a second left, might I add? Come on, bro.
B
Yeah, that's a trip right there.
A
And there's a couple of tents left. Great hand. Would you have wanted that foul call last night, Trish?
B
If I was aer, I would. I think, though, it was a little bang bang, little bang bang. It looked like Oscar might have fouled Donovan Mitchell. So it was like, we're gonna not call that one. We're not gonna allow this game to end on free throws. How about that? Like, at the. At the. At this point, we're gonna allow you guys to throw the ball back out and see what it is. But that's a trip. That's. That's legitimately a trip. And the problem is, is that you could have. You could have contested the out of bounds in terms of who it went off last and then get approximate foul review if your asses would have had a challenge and you didn't because you wasted that challenge on something that was quite meaningless earlier on in the game, bro.
A
I'm with you on that for sure, man. But these NBA coaches for some reason don't understand liberty nor life, nor the constitution, nor the Liberty Bell, bruh. Why in the are you challenging something in the first quarter, in the playoffs? You know, I don't care if you saw it go off on. Off on him. I don't care. I need my challenge at the end of the game, no matter what. All our games have been closely contested. All Tony brothers do is be on. Yes, I'mma keep my challenge just because, yes, that's our. That's our ball. But it's the second quarter and we up seven. I'm not challenging it, bro. I think the Knicks, I think they got the highest success rate on challenges because they, they keep it real, bro. Unless it's. I'm talking about Squeaky clean, obvious 4K video of the ball going off this, brother. We don't need it until the fourth quarter, man. Prime example. Like you said, bro. You had your challenge in that spot, bro. I'm challenging. It wasn't out on. I'm sorry. No, it was a foul. Oh, two free throws. Rewarded. Game time. We're up 3Z. 3 2. Going back to Cleveland instead. Look at yourself. Look at you now.
B
You go back to Cleveland in a must win situation, and Cleveland hasn't lost yet at home. So not a great spot if you're Detroit. And like, I really do hope that the Detroit brass, when they get eliminated, whenever that is, that they go and take a hard look at their roster and say, you know what? Trista was right. We don't have enough there.
A
She's. There she is. She's back. Do you want to see who would you prefer to see the Knicks play? Because I prefer to see them play the Cavs at this point because it's too many times this stuff keeps happening to the Pistons where they look great and then all of a sudden they don't. And then on the other side of that, you got Cat and them boys looking like they hungry right now. I don't even think that Jalen Duran has any piece of what it takes to guard Cat right now. So I would rather see Cat go
B
up against or Mitchell Robinson.
A
You feel me? Or if OG can get back or if Macabre goes just aggressive mode like he been doing. I. I would rather see these Cavs go against that. I think it's a better matchup. What you think?
B
I agree. I think I want to see Donovan Mitchell get past the second round. I want to see James Harden, who almost turned into a pumpkin in the fourth quarter. Almost. He was. He was half pumpkin, half princess.
A
Okay.
B
In the fourth quarter. You know what I mean? Like, there were some moments.
A
You can call my boy a pumpkin princess, man. Come on, bro.
B
It wasn't even the princess that turned in the pumpkin. It was the. It was the buggy the other way around. So he was one part buggy, one part pumpkin. And I thought that, you know, missing the free throws killed them. Some of those three pointed attempts were fugazi. Why are we even taking these? They were 0 for 9 at one point in the fourth quarter. Like, yo, can we just move the ball around? Stop throwing into the stands Anyway. They get the ball.
A
He reviewed that. The coach Kenny accident reviewed that last three when he keep jumping up like that.
B
Yeah, come on.
A
Come on, man.
B
So I want to see James Harden finally. Finally. Yeah, be good James Harden and, like, clutch crucial situations. I want to see him ball out in game six. Like, I want to see him go up against the Knicks and give us a big Madison Square Garden performance. I want to see Donovan Mitchell heal that Damn ankle in 2.5.2.5 seconds with some holy water and get busy in the Garden as well. I want to see Evan Mobley continue to shoot those threes, continue to go up for lobs. Continue. Continue to get those big rebounds like I, I. When the Cavs are playing in their flow and they're not in their own way, I think they're just a much more fun brand of basketball to watch than the Pistons. That's.
A
Yeah. For sure. For sure. And speaking of Evan Mobley, did you see the damn slash he had on his face? Looking like a scar from Lion King last night?
B
I did not see that, bro.
A
I don't even know if they called this damn file. My boy looking like scar. This is going to be here forever on my boy for moving forward. Look at him.
B
Wow.
A
Wow, bro. It looked like somebody book 50 my boy. Like, what in the hell? So, yeah, I would rather see him move on. Can you imagine? Oh, my goodness. If Donno and Jimmy Harden find a Way to eliminate the Knicks.
B
Yes.
A
New York, bro, Y', all, that would be the goofiest way to go out, bro. Even goofier than losing to the Pacers last year. This would take the Cape, bruh.
B
It would, it would and it would. It would cause a lot of ruckus.
A
Yeah.
B
In the east, we're now talking Giannis trades. You're. We're now talking, like, is, Is OG a potential trade piece to go somewhere? Or Mikhail, Like, I know he had a great series. You know, the thing, the thing that I, I think about players who do nothing and, and then they have a great series is I think this is a perfect time to trade you. Everybody, Everybody wants to buy low or everybody wants to sell low and buy high. That's, like, what our emotions and our psychology want us to do. So Knicks fans see this from Mikhail Bridges, and they're like, oh, my God, this is Mikhail we've been wanting. Yes. This is finally. We finally get that. No, more often than not, what you do 80, 90% of the time is who you are.
A
Yeah.
B
89 of the time, Mikhail ain't. You know what I mean? You get a good series or two out of Mikhail and you get bounced in the Eastern Conference finals, which is where you got bounced last year. We need to be taking those stats, those beautiful, beautiful stats and sending them around the league. It's like, do you need this guy? Like, yeah, the Knicks lose.
A
They. Yeah, for sure. Break it up. I'm through with it. If it don't work this time. Hey, we need to chop this thing up for parts, man. Say who need them? Who need them? Well, yeah, man. Moving on, bro. To the west side. What's like Timberwolves, spurs, the elbow her around the world, even France.
B
You worried for your Timberwolves?
A
Yeah, it's over with. I, I, the same. For the same reason, though, that I want. I would prefer if the Cavaliers move on. I'm not necessarily a Cavaliers fan. I, I like Detroit a little better, but I'm a fan of basketball more than my, my wants and needs. I would love Ant man to go on, bro. Like, I want Ant man to just win a championship, but the Thunder right there waiting on whoever next, and them boys are banged up. My boy knees don't even work right most of the games. Dante Divincenzo already out. So I think the spurs have a way better fighting chance against the Thunder. That's why I would, unfortunately, kind of rather see that happen, you know what I mean?
B
Spurs, Thunder might be the most anticipated Western Conference finals. Since, like, Houston, Golden State.
A
Yeah. Yeah. Huh.
B
And then, like, the. The reason that was, like, fell off a little bit is because Chris Paul got injured. But, like, if everybody's healthy, I don't know if I'll. I'll have another Western Conference finals. I've been as excited to see.
A
Yeah.
B
And that could go seven games and literally be decided by two points, four points, every single game of the series.
A
Yeah, but Timberwolves ain't out yet. Like, they're not. What do they have to do to even. Well, to. To stretch this thing to a game seven? What do they have to do? Because I. I like Ayo, but sometimes bro stops a little much like, you feel me? What you think they got to do?
B
Yeah. Ao's reckless. He's wild. He's out there like, you know, a DB that thinks he's a wide receiver. You know what I mean? He's like, bro, you don't have hands. Like, you need to stop. He's. He thinks he should be taking more shots than he should be taken. I think, you know, we need a lot of Julius Randall. I think we need him to go to work. We need Ant man to get cut through the paint and split defenders and open things up and spray that out to the folks on the perimeter to shoot. We need great Nas. Nas, read above the break threes.
A
Yeah, man, that's.
B
That's another thing that we need. We need Jaden McDaniels from the Denver series to reemerge. He needs to come back and give us some of those offensive performances that we saw when he was putting the black hood on, you know, and talking. We need physicality. We need to get Wimby frustrated. We need to get him emotional. What they did in the third quarter where they ended up going on this crazy run, they need to have that level of intensity all four quarters.
A
Right, bro? And you know what else? Chris Finch, I need you to realize that if Ant man is getting double teamed while bringing the ball up the court, either as soon as he passes the ball, he sprints to a corner. So that now that we have to make a decision, you either got to stay over there or here or. Or don't have Ant man bringing the ball up and send him to the corner, allow him to cut, bruh. It's too many instances where Ant man bringing the ball down, he double teamed the half court. He po. He pass it and just stand around half court waiting for. And it's like, bro, coach, time out. Let's draw something up. So hopefully, I. I hope Chris Finch can also contribute to some of this as well, because.
B
And the other role players usually, like, if ant man's getting blitzed and you know he's getting blitzed and he passes you the ball.
A
Yeah.
B
I don't give a. If he's standing there waiting for the ball again. They are trapping you now, and you're gonna be the one with the turnover on your jacket.
A
Exactly, bro. Go to the whole Terrence Tanner Jr. Bro, you very aggressive. Same thing as Ayo. I feel like if they could just not take a Red Bull before the game or the pre workout or whatever, just a little bit more under control instead of getting in the paint and trying to realize. Oh, Rudy. Anybody? No. Go up. Float it. You feel me? Yes. Wimby's there, but you got to be practicing your high archers in practice. That's what time it is.
B
Yeah. Or just get close enough to him where his arm can't block the shot. Like, go up underneath him and draw contact and see what it is.
A
Come on, man. Chris Finch. Call us, bro. If you need some help, bro. Just say that we got you. All we need is a couple hundred and we'll get you right, man. Thousand on that Hunter, just in case you didn't know. But moving on, man, to the W, bro. The W is back in full effect, which means a lot of flopping is back in full effect. Ladies and gentlemen, Caitlin Clark, you are my sister. I do not know what the hell you was up to with that Morgan Wild in concert. I'm not gonna judge you because I don't look to you but for advice. I look to you to play basketball, but during the basketball game, you can't get. You can't lose the ball and then flop.
B
Oh, my God, bro. Oh, my.
A
You lose the ball on your own. Push po, Ariel and flop at the same time, bro. What we doing, sis?
B
Flopping. She may be one of the most egregious floppers I've ever seen. And truthfully, that's one of the reasons that people don't like her. You know, there's a lot of reasons people don't like Caitlin Clark. But that's like that, right? That right there. That motion of the.
A
The victim.
B
This is why I didn't like Lauren Betts when she was in her. Not her super senior year, but her real senior year to. Not this year, but the last year.
A
Yeah.
B
Is that she was always flopping. And it was so. It was so like weak. Weak sauce, yo. Get strong. Don't try and play with the refs.
A
Exactly. That's why I like my sister, Big Al from the Atlanta Dream. She used to lean in more into the flopping, like, every time you touch her. Oh, flopping like my sister Tiffany. Hey, sometimes I love assistant, but you know she gonna get that foul call. I think that the casual fans of the WNBA see stuff like this and take to Twitter. Oh, this is why. So ladies, bro, like, please just play ball, man. Take it from. How embarrassing. Shay, Gil, just Alexander and them looking. They the best in the world right now and still resort to goddamn tripping you and. And hating on you and trying to get a call from the referee, bro, you ain't got to do that. Mike Tyson don't got to do all that, but I'll knock you out, man.
B
That's facts.
A
You feel me? Moving on, though. It's the same game. Cam Brink, you feel me? Look, she was. She was on the hot seat for a little while, and I feel like Erica Wheeler, big neca. The veterans of that team done sat, sits down and say, look, bruh, you are future. We need you. And she locked in. Look how she did Caitlyn last night. Yeah.
B
She said, get that out of there.
A
I think she said, get that effing s out of here. Look at her.
B
Get that.
A
Yeah. Cam talk that cam. That what we talking about. That's the cam we've been looking for. Yeah.
B
It's not just about the block either, Juju.
A
Right?
B
Not about the three blocks.
A
Exactly.
B
Also, when you. When you do that, what we're seeing the. Get that out of there. I just put your in the third row. Data. That's confidence. Yeah, that's confidence. That's a peacock. She got the ball. She's turning around. She's going up and under. She was one of the more potent scorers in the paint. Yeah, she got cooked in the paint as well. But she still had three blocks. And she's still showing you. I can protect the rim and I can do it on one of the best scorers in the league. So I. I like what I'm seeing from Cam in this. In this second game for sure, man.
A
Great response to public criticism for folks all on in your business. How about this? Let me go out there and be the dog. I know I am. You did salute the e. Wheezy industry in the squad, bro. I think her future so bright. All she gotta do is make sure she got on the right specs like me and you, bro. All she gotta do is make sure she cool. But, Max, that right there is gonna do it for another episode of the alley. Oh, any last words on the way
B
out of his sis Men these broken wings again. See you later, Detroit. I know this might but guess what? It doesn't matter what I say. Where my money goes is what the universe treats me like. So I'm gonna talk that go out and get a robin for Batman.
A
Yeah. Hey, Jalen Brown. Oh, we just said I realized hold on. Batman's oh, look. Speaking of that, though, we're gonna tune in next episode on and discuss that. Thank you as always to Ms. Rebecca Donahue and our brother, the distinguished Dylan. Oh, my goodness. And thank you for listening and tuning in. Man, without y', all, who the hell are we, man? Lock in on YouTube with us, man, on this this Friday today Levitar show and then on Tuesday at DLS Hoops on YouTube, man. Appreciate y'. All.
B
Same bad time, different bat channel.
A
Oh, yeah.
B
Www.alleyoopshow.com.
Released: May 15, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Recorded in the heat of the NBA playoffs, this episode features in-depth basketball discussion, betting woes, roster frustrations, and playful banter between the hosts. The main focus is on recent playoff collapses (especially the Detroit Pistons), potential roster moves, the progress of star players, big what-ifs in the East and West, and a spirited segment on the WNBA’s return. The central thread: how stars like Wembanyama and SGA could revolutionize NBA television and playoff excitement.
[00:00–02:00]
[01:46–07:21]
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[12:16–15:56]
[16:01–17:19]
[17:39–22:04]
[19:55–21:13]
[22:04–25:45]
On betting futility:
“If you look at my bet slips... it's literally like Detroit Pistons... it's like 10 or 12 bets that I've lost, bro.”
— B [01:23]
On Jalen Duren’s playoff disappointment:
“Elbow somebody. Punch somebody. Do anything, brother. Pump us up, bro, because you damn near should get benched next game.”
— A [06:53]
On Harden’s clutch gene:
“He was half pumpkin, half princess in the fourth quarter. You know what I mean?”
— B [13:39]
On flopping in the WNBA:
“You lose the ball on your own. Push, po, Ariel and flop at the same time, bro. What we doing, sis?”
— A [22:47]
On Cam Brink’s breakout:
“That's confidence. That's a peacock.”
— B [25:01]
Playful exit:
“Same bad time, different bat channel.”
— B [27:07]
The episode is high-energy, humorous, and critical, with passionate rants and playful digs at both players and coaches. The hosts provide both granular breakdowns (like NBA usage rate analysis and playcalling specifics) and big-picture takes (roster-building philosophy, trade season strategies). A highlight is the WNBA segment, which blends strong opinions with genuine excitement for the league’s stars and personalities—showing the podcast’s trademark blend of irreverence and hoops IQ.
For fans: Expect a blend of smart basketball talk, betting confessions, inside jokes, and sharp cultural commentary—very much in the DNA of “The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz.”