Will Ferrell Shows Off His Body | Hour 2

Summary

The Dan Le Batard Show — “Will Ferrell Shows Off His Body | Hour 2”

Date: June 30, 2026
Setting: Live from the Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami
Featuring: Dan Le Batard (host), Mike Ryan, Amin Elhassan, and others

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Episode Overview

In this vibrant hour, Dan and the crew tackle a hodgepodge of sports and pop culture, from deeply-felt debates about how soccer games are decided and the significance of international play, to a wide-ranging discussion on Clint Eastwood’s legacy, the maligned state of movie comedies, and a playful analysis of Will Ferrell’s latest underwear-clad commercial. The show maintains its signature blend of sharp sports insight, irreverent humor, and meta-commentary on media, fame, and generational culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Drama (and Weirdness) of Soccer Penalty Kicks

[01:42–08:56]

• The crew dissects the “unfair” and “asinine” nature of deciding World Cup games with penalty kicks.
• Amin Elhassan contends PKs are unmatched for drama but “not a great metric for who’s better.”
  • “It’s entertaining… but as a concept, it’s asinine. There’s no movement involved… it’s not actually soccer.” ([02:27], Amin)
• Mike Ryan highlights the strategic side: lesser teams intentionally play for PKs to level the playing field.
• The analogy of the Super Bowl being decided by “kicking the football through a swinging tire” underscores the disconnect with the sport’s essential nature.
• Dan insists international soccer (specifically the World Cup) dwarfs club play in emotional importance.
  • “If you poll every single one of those players… they will all say to a man, to win a World Cup.” ([04:56], Dan)

2. Just How Big is International Soccer?

[04:17–06:19]

• Dan recounts explaining Messi’s global celebrity (511 million Instagram followers) to an incredulous NBA co-host who couldn’t grasp that Messi is bigger than LeBron.
  • “Half a billion people follow this guy… his response, I swear to God, ‘Yeah, but how many of those are bought?’” ([06:03], Dan)

3. Club vs. International Soccer Quality

[06:19–07:29]

• Mike points out the tactical and coaching upgrades narrowing the gap between club and international soccer.
  • The intensity of PK shootouts transcends soccer fandom—people always stop to watch.

4. The “Ultimate Accomplishment" in Sport

[04:56–06:19]

• The World Cup stands as the dream for soccer players globally, regardless of background.

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5. Clint Eastwood’s Epic Career (& Comedy Roasting)

[08:56–18:39]

• The panel marvels at Eastwood’s near eight-decade Hollywood career—and the quirks of his late-life output.
• Amin describes Eastwood’s recent directing as “like he’s running out of time… just doing it as quickly as he can” ([09:37], Amin), which might explain why some recent movies show decline.
• The most memorable moment for Dan? Eastwood “talking to a chair” at the 2012 RNC.
  • “That dude talked to a chair. Trying to tell us the chair is… Obama or whatever.” ([10:14], Dan)
• The group debates signature Eastwood roles ("Dirty Harry," "The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly," "Unforgiven"), generational divides on his films, and his awards tally.
  • Mike: “He never won a best actor Academy Award.” ([12:24])
  • Amin: “I don’t think anybody is going to be calling you Pulitzer Prize winner Amin Elhassan for the rest of your life.” ([36:31])

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6. The Business and Culture of Comedy & Special-Making

[18:44–20:07]

• Amin lambastes the current “influencer economy” in stand-up specials, notably criticizing Tony Hinchcliffe’s recently removed Netflix special as “spectacularly lazy” and “an affront to standup.”
  • “It’s one of the least well done things, and lazy on top of that. Like, spectacularly lazy.” ([19:05], Amin)
• Dan explains its removal was a standard rights expiration, not a censure.

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7. Animal Danger and Unexpected Facts

[21:54–23:38]

• The group is shocked to learn cows and hogs kill more people annually than sharks.
  • Amin: “We need to start making cow horror movies. A movie like Jaws that is instead ‘Moos.’” ([21:54])
• Dan and Mike explain it’s all about “crime of opportunity”—you see cows/hogs more often than sharks.

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8. Comedy’s “Lost Decade” in Hollywood

[26:17–37:55]

• The last ten years are dissected as a fallow period for hit movie comedies.
• Will Ferrell’s new Skims (underwear) ad prompts jokes about physical comedy, aging, and body images.
  • Mike: “Who we kidding here? He looks good.”
  • Amin: “His face is as thin as it’s ever been, but those are not flattering…” ([27:22], Amin)
• Comparing Ferrell’s and Dan’s midlife bodies becomes fare for the show’s “grid of death” bits.
• The "last great comedy movie" challenge:
  • Dan nominates “Barbie” ([37:22])
  • Amin resists, seeing it more as a cultural essay than pure comedy.
  • Mike points out "Barbie" was nominated for Best Comedy at the Golden Globes. ([37:56])
• The crew lampoons Dan’s tendency to reject every answer, moving goalposts:
  • Mike: "You often do this where you’re like, 'Can someone answer this...?' And you know what he does? 'Nah, that’s not good enough. I’ll change it.'” ([38:13], Mike)

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9. Pulitzers, Pressure, and the Value of Audience

[31:12–38:34]

• Reflections on ambition and the “insatiable” standard—especially in light of Pablo Torre’s Pulitzer victory.
• Amin reveals hardly anyone congratulated the team for the Pulitzer, and wonders aloud: what’s more valuable—a Pulitzer, or a loyal, trusting audience?
  • "I don't think anybody is going to be calling you Pulitzer Prize winner Amin Elhassan for the rest of your life." ([36:31], Amin)
• Dan: "The hardest thing to do in this business [is to have] an audience that trusts you to take them where you're going." ([32:17], Dan)

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10. World Fame: Messi vs. LeBron (and Who’s #2?)

[40:15–41:45]

• Dan tells the story of explaining Messi’s global cultural clout to Americans who assume LeBron is the most famous athlete.
• The crew speculates who ranks second in worldwide fame: Cristiano Ronaldo, a musician like Bad Bunny, or a global entertainment icon.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• PKs are “asinine as a concept”—but “entertaining”:
  “It’s entertaining… but as a concept, it’s asinine. There’s no movement involved… it’s not actually soccer.”
  — Amin Elhassan ([02:27])

• World Cup > Club Play
  “If you poll every single one of those players… they will all say to a man, to win a World Cup.”
  — Dan Le Batard ([04:56])

• On Messi vs. LeBron:
  “Half a billion people follow this guy. ... His response, I swear to God, ‘Yeah, but how many of those are bought?’”
  — Dan Le Batard ([06:03])

• The “Jaws” of Cows:
  “We need to start making cow horror movies. A movie like Jaws that is instead ‘Moos.’”
  — Amin Elhassan ([21:54])

• Will Ferrell’s “Skims” Ad:
  "Who we kidding here? He looks good."
  — Mike Ryan ([27:03])
  "His face is as thin as it’s ever been, but those are not flattering…"
  — Amin Elhassan ([27:22])

• Comedy Movie Drought:
  "Are you guys gonna come up with a comedy in the last 10 years that everyone...would say, yes, that's the one?"
  — Amin Elhassan ([36:49])

• On the State of Comedy Specials:
  "It's one of the least well done things, and lazy on top of that. Like, spectacularly lazy."
  — Amin Elhassan ([19:05])

• The Value of Audience vs. Awards:
  "The hardest thing to do in this business [is] an audience that trusts you to take them where you're going.”
  — Dan Le Batard ([32:17])

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Important Timestamps

• [01:42] — PKs and the nature of soccer drama
• [04:56] — World Cup’s significance over club play
• [06:03] — Messi’s global following vs. LeBron
• [09:37] — Clint Eastwood’s directing style
• [19:05] — Tony Hinchcliffe special critique
• [21:54] — Cows/hogs vs. sharks: animal dangers
• [27:03] — Will Ferrell's 'Skims' underwear commercial
• [31:12] — Ambition, Pulitzers, and audience value
• [36:49] — Challenge: best comedy of the last 10 years
• [40:15] — Messi vs. LeBron in world fame

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Style and Tone

The episode is quintessential Dan Le Batard Show: rapid-fire banter, sharp digressions, inside jokes, and a satirical yet earnest approach to sports and cultural analysis. The group oscillates between deep insight and playful roast, punctuated by self-aware asides and mockery of both each other and the various topics under scrutiny.

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Final Thoughts

This hour is a tour through the Le Batard universe: skeptical of sports tradition while appreciating its spectacle, reverent to pop culture but quick to lampoon it, and always unafraid to push questions about value—of championships, comedy, or legacy—in ways both serious and ridiculous. Whether debating PKs or dissecting Will Ferrell’s tighty-whities, the tone stays authentic, askew, and distinctly Le Batard.

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[Amin Elhassan]

Zaz from the World cup and you took Somerville's name and just made him buddy earlier. So you might not be the perfect person to ask this question, but the last 30 minutes of that game yesterday, they had two touches in Morocco's penalty box. They got zero shots on goal in the last 30 minutes. They had the ball 17% of the time. So they went to a conservative style. They should have all been wearing Cedric Coward's jersey running around back there, and they're getting crushed for it. Today. I want to talk about penalty kicks for a second because I think they're perfect. In the attention deficit disorder era. It's perfect to just make it maximum stakes and just have guys kicking the ball at the goalie. It's just a lot of fun, but I wouldn't want to be the favorite and have the game decided by the other team trying to just get me to penalty kicks because then whatever advantages I had before are eliminated and we are now doing something that, as I said before, is no longer actually soccer. It's just there's no there's no movement involved. Like it's, it's, it's asinine as a concept. Even though there are no better ones in all the time with this very primitive game game, we haven't figured out a way you can't have them go seven overtimes. The bodies can't handle that. So you have to have something that decides the game. And while it's entertaining, you'd agree with me that it's not a great metric for who's deciding who's better, right?

[Mike Ryan]

No, of course not. But you're, you're saying this as if this is a new strategy. Wouldn't a strategy like this where you got one team who is significantly better than the other, they're trying to avoid going to penalties because that winds up leveling out the differences between the two teams like this can't possibly be a new strategy. No, it's not. It's not. This has been something that on the international level they've been dealing with since the 90s. There's no way to stop it. Right. And I actually like that part of the strategy of the game. And you want to say that it's not reflective of what the sport is. Well, there's a reason why they went to this because long drawn out, golden goal type competitions were also bastardizing the sport. And that was before possession had such an emphasis on it. Where you see a team like Japan chasing the ball, being dog tired, hoping against hope that they can just get the penalty kicks because they are being run out of a building, that's not a true way to determine who's best either.

[Amin Elhassan]

The penalty kicks, I've got to assume wherever it is that you are, you will stop and watch that.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

If you are somebody who doesn't care even for the sport, the idea that you're watching, as I've said before of the World cup, we have all the sports here. We have 50 teams in just New York that play a bunch of different sports. But so many of these countries, those colors are what they wear around because it's their only thing. They don't have anything else. This is so much bigger than the Olympics in terms of patriotic pride is the greatest thing that you have in sports, but especially in these. I can't even imagine what it's like in Morocco. I can't imagine what it's like in these small countries where they're looking at things and they're knocking off giants.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, this is the biggest rift between me and Witty and Mike is that they put so much emphasis importance on Club play. And I keep telling them, you guys can say that. You guys could say all the best plays in the epl, whatever. But if you poll every single one of those players and say, what is the greatest accomplishment you can have? They will all say to a man, to win a World Cup. That is the number one thing on everyone's mind who plays this game. Whether you're barefoot in a vacant lot in or you're playing in an academy with manicured grass and all that stuff. Everyone's dream is this thing. It happens once every four years. And it is, man. I was getting into this last night with my co host on the radio. I was doing free agency radio on NBA Radio. He just couldn't understand. He's like, what do you mean Messi's more popular than LeBron? And I was like, buddy, you're putting me in a horrible situation here where I have to be the guy who defends Messi and has to stick up for him. But I'm like, it's not on NBA Radio. But it's not even close. It's not even close. And so I said, this is one metric, and it's just a rough one. I said, how many Instagram followers do you think LeBron has? Like, 100 million? It's like 150. 150 million. I said, how many Think Messi has said, well, he probably has more. Was it like 250? I was like, it's 450. 511 million followers, dude. Half a billion people follow this guy. And his response, I swear to God, is like, yeah, but how many of those are bought?

[Mike Ryan]

I love the international. I think the point that you're referring to is maybe the quality isn't as good, but even the quality of the international game, where it was compared to the club game, not as good. That's changing, too, because of all the data afforded to these coaches and coaches that have. Like, getting to be a credentialed coach in Europe is a process. You have to go through training. It is an education. You go through tears, you get your. Your. Your medals, and you. You go through an academy to become a coach. These coaches are so smart. They have so much data available to them. I was always like, man, let's counter attack for the usa. Let's dig deep. We don't have these guys in camp for long and kick it deep and use our athletes. And we changed our style because our training methods are different. The science is different. And we figured that that was the best way to use our athletes. So the international Game, I think, is becoming way more appealing. And to your point about PK's, that transcends. You can get someone that hates. Actively hate soccer. And if they're walking past a bar television and they see PK is on, they're going to stop. Whereas if it's golden goal, they'll just keep moving on with their day. How did Ted Lasso get the job?

[Dan Le Batard]

How would coach.

[Amin Elhassan]

How would you guys feel about the super bowl being decided in overtime by all of the players coming out and having to kick the football through a swinging tire? Like I'm asking the question. Yeah. Now I'm not. I'm no longer making it a. The quarterbacks throwing it through a swinging tire because I think we'd all like that. I think all of us would enjoy both quarterbacks going at each other with a swinging tire. But now I'm just making it. Five guys from each team have to come out here and they have to kick the ball. They have to kick the ball through a swinging tire. How would you feel about the super bowl being decided that way by some sort of skills competition?

[Dan Le Batard]

But then when you said, oh, I have to switch it from the quarterback because that would be too fun. That's the point. That's what PKs are. It's like, this isn't football, but it's like it's fun. And so that's. That's the idea there. I think people would actually like it more than just interminable overtime period after overtime period after overtime period.

[Mike Ryan]

The Dolphins winning the super bowl from throwing a ball through a tire be a little bit of a letdown. And I imagine most of these games without the penalty kicks probably end on a penalty kick. As we saw with Japan, who is so disciplined, when you get fatigued, you make mental mistakes, uncharacteristically so, as Japan made one in their own end. You get tired and what will happen is you'll have someone dragging their leg inside the box and the game ends on a PK Anyways.

[Amin Elhassan]

Juju put it on the poll. Does fatigue make Cedric Cowards of us all at LeBatard show? I wanted to talk about something here that has escaped a lot of attention, even though I think it deserves more. Clint Eastwood is retiring, has retired. Now, there seems to be some conjecture in his own family about this. He's 96 years old and one of his sons says he's retired. And another one of his sons says, I have not heard that come out of his mouth. But Clint Eastwood has worked for seven decades in Hollywood.

[Mike Ryan]

Take a Break.

[Amin Elhassan]

That has to be one of the most prolific careers there have been. People in Hollywood talk about the way that Clint Eastwood was directing movies at the end. Have you guys heard about how Clint Eastwood directs movies? It's like he's running out of time. Like, he does not go and do the perfect shot. The perfect shot. The perfect shot. And this may explain why so many of his movies recently have been bad.

[Mike Ryan]

Ridley Scott's doing the exact same thing,

[Amin Elhassan]

Just doing it as quickly as he can. But 96 years old is an incredible retirement age. 96 is nuts. I think juror number two is the last movie that he made.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what I think about when I hear Clint Eastwood? I always think about him talking to the chair. Like, you know, I'm sorry. Like, I know we're supposed to be honoring this guy right now. Like, what a great career and all that. Get out of here, man. That dude talked to a chair. Trying to tell us the chair is telling us that that's Obama or whatever.

[Mike Ryan]

I think of how he became a comedic actor in Gran Torino. That movie's hilarious. I think of Trouble with the Curve with Amy Adams and Justin Timberlake. I think of the Good and Bad and the Ugly. Ah, yeah. What's that? Million Dollar Baby.

[Amin Elhassan]

So he's won. I. I think he's won a couple of best picture awards as a director, and I think he has won a couple of Oscars as the lead as well. Can you look that up for me, Jeremy? Please look up for me what Clint Eastwood's resume looks like. And, Roy, you should find the sound. We played it all the time. We played it all the time on Wild Billy Wednesdays. The Good, the Bad and the Ugly and the spaghetti Western where Clint Eastwood made his initial fame. If I ask you guys, though, to take one of his movies and make it the thing that you remember him by not talking to a chair. Not some of the other stuff that's. Apart from that. The westerns are so long ago. They're where it is that he broke in. That would be my. It'd be in my top 100 movie sounds of all time. Top 50, probably.

[Dan Le Batard]

We've done this before.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, you just can't do a lot better than that.

[Mike Ryan]

50s a lot. Are you saying, like, what's his signature role? You'll have some people say Dirty Harry, but I. This might be a generational thing. I know Jeremy hasn't seen it, but you guys have seen the Good, the Bad, the Ugly, right? Nah. Trilogy. You haven't. Zaz. I don't think I have.

[Dan Le Batard]

That ain't about movies, man. Come on.

[Mike Ryan]

Have you seen. All right, Roy, I. Tell me you have. Yeah, that's why you're a trivia pick every single time.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, of course I've seen it.

[Mike Ryan]

It absolutely holds up. It is an incredible classic film.

[Amin Elhassan]

Unforgiven is his. And that's the 90s, right? That was bringing back the western, that. That's among the best modern day westerns. If indeed we can. I don't think we can call 90s modern day.

[Mike Ryan]

That movie rules.

[Amin Elhassan]

It's oldies. It did Unforgiven. What. What were the movies that he won Oscars for?

[Mike Ryan]

Mystic River, Unforgiven and Million Dollar Baby were the only things he won. He won best Picture and best Director for both of those. He never won a best Actor Academy Award.

[Dan Le Batard]

He wasn't that great of an actor. We could say that, right? He wasn't that great of an actor.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know.

[Mike Ryan]

There was a really good actor.

[Dan Le Batard]

No, he wasn't.

[Mike Ryan]

That was Joe Biden. I think I'm all right. Joe Biden. Not Glenn Eastwood.

[Amin Elhassan]

It really was Joe Biden.

[Mike Ryan]

You're a good boxer. I think you're gonna. You're gonna be all right.

[Amin Elhassan]

What else did he win Best Picture, Best Picture for? Because he's got two of each, does he not? Does he not?

[Mike Ryan]

Perpetually nominated. It's best Picture and best Director for both of those movies. For Unforgiven, one Million Dollar Baby, he was nominated for best Picture and best Director for Mystic River. He did not win for Letters from Iwo Jima. And he was nominated for best picture for American Sniper, which, you know, Love that one. That's a good one. By the way, John Morant fits in perfectly. Important. Yes, he does. He did win the Golden Globe for best director for Bird, for Unforgiven, for Million Dollar Baby, and he won best foreign language film for Letters from Iwo Jim. That's it. Iwo Jim is in Japan.

[Amin Elhassan]

Were you saying C, like, is S E A, that there's a C near Japan? Like. Yeah, surely you were not. You. You were not using Spanish for what

[Mike Ryan]

you think he was.

[Amin Elhassan]

Why did. Why did you. What happened?

[Mike Ryan]

I didn't hear the title of the film. I just. He said foreign language and I was. Where did you think it was?

[Dan Le Batard]

Right near Rocky Points.

[Mike Ryan]

I know. I'm not gonna take a clip.

[Amin Elhassan]

So you just. You just. You heard foreign language and you went with the one foreign word that you knew, which was C. Iwo Jima.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Amin Elhassan]

96 years old at the end here about a year ago, Gene Hackman was fairly unrecognizable in his 90s. No longer looked like the human being that he used to be. Clint Eastwood, retiring at the age of 96 is fairly extraordinary because he's made a movie. When was juror number two made? Jeremy so he's.

[Mike Ryan]

That one sucked.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. But he was doing movies late into his 90s. And I genuinely wonder if you're a Hollywood person in charge of giving out budgets. Do you give it to the 95 year old? Because it seemed. It seems fairly dangerous for a number of different reasons that I'm hoping. Don't sound ageist, but once you've gotten to 95 years old, I would think that there would be dangers in giving a movie project over to somebody who might not be able to complete it.

[Dan Le Batard]

You're bartering off of his name and his name recognition within a certain demographic. So all the older people who remember Clint Eastwood movies will still come out. Maybe it's not for a younger demographic but for the people whose name his name resonates with because of the great movies that he's directed and or produced. They'll come out. And that's what all Hollywood is now. It's just like, do you have a fan base? Do you have a following that will come out and support your product?

[Mike Ryan]

Juror number two was 2024.

[Amin Elhassan]

So he's 94 years old at the time.

[Mike Ryan]

Man, he deserved a better. He did sully. He deserved a better goodbye.

[Amin Elhassan]

When you mention, I mean, what Hollywood is doing right now, I assume that's what Hollywood and Netflix were doing with that godforsaken Tony hit Hinchcliffe Special, which has it been taken down because it's so bad, because it was popular, because he's got a following. But it's an affront to stand up comedy and to specials.

[Mike Ryan]

Subjective.

[Amin Elhassan]

And I think. I think they just removed it. I'm stunned that he even put it out. I'm assuming it was part of his Kill Tony deal. Kill Tony is very popular, but the standup special was an abomination. It's one of the least well done things. And lazy on top of that. Like spectacularly lazy. It was just really bad. I couldn't get through it.

[Dan Le Batard]

His explanation is that he owns the rights to it and so the license with Netflix expired and that's why it was taken down. Because he owns the rights. He can sell it or lease it out somewhere else. He could put it on his own platform and charge people again. This is his explanation. I'm not.

[Amin Elhassan]

I know.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know anybody. I haven't talked to anybody. I'm just a guy.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, he should be embarrassed by that. Like that being put out with his name on it is something that he should be deeply embarrassed by. It is so spectacularly lazy to be offensive to anybody who's ever tried comedy or knows what the honor of getting a special is. But it is. It is what Netflix is doing. Some of just grabbing people who have social media followings and throwing them on there because you can bring their audience over, even if it's lazy and dumb, what you're doing.

[Dan Le Batard]

So what was your favorite joke, Dan?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I mean, really? We're going to do chicken jokes on black people? That's what we're going to do. Like, that's really what we're going to do. That's what we're going to do in 2026,

[Mike Ryan]

the term spaghetti Western is. Because a lot of Italians produced and directed those movies. Yes.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah. Are you just learning this now?

[Mike Ryan]

Are you? Let me ask, how old are you? Are you a dumb person?

[Dan Le Batard]

What's wrong with you?

[Mike Ryan]

Are you a dumb person? Dan normally asked me for the origin of stuff. I was just getting ahead of it. Dumb person. Yeah, yeah. My specialty.

[Amin Elhassan]

Your Clint Eastwood is Joe Biden and those two people.

[Mike Ryan]

No, my Joe Biden's right here, man. He said domo origami. We weren't supposed to hear the end of that. Yeah, you pulled away from the mic

[Dan Le Batard]

for the Mr. Roboto.

[Amin Elhassan]

For those of you who want more Chris Cody, Pablo Torre finds out features him today. Super smart. He stole the show Chris Cody did on Pablo Torre finds out in an episode released today where he cops to lowering Pablo Torre's standard. Because I have to be one of the few people in charge of anything who is demanding that his employees lower their standards because Pablo's going to fry. If he keeps going at the pace that he is going at, make worse shows, he's going to short circuit. And so I'm actively telling him to lower the standard. And he does so today by featuring prominently Chris Cody is right there on Pablo Torre finds out right at the center of everything. Although you will be denied his Clint Eastwood, Joe Biden impersonation, that's exclusive to this show right here. We will not farm that out to anybody. No one else can have Chris Cody's Clint Eastwood as Joe Biden.

[Dan Le Batard]

You give him the milk. You can't give away the cow.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah, yeah,

[Amin Elhassan]

yeah. Cows and hogs kill more people than sharks. I cannot believe that. So you guys are not surprised by that at all? I'm assuming that when these polls, when we update these polls with juju, I'm assuming that the American people and internationally, they will side with me. They will be surprised that cows and hogs kill more people than sharks. We need to start making cow horror movies. We need to start making a movie like Jaws that is instead Moos.

[Dan Le Batard]

I mean, well, you gotta think of it as a crime of opportunity, Dan. Right? Like cows and hogs are around people mostly. You very rarely find a wild cow. It exists, right? But, like, they're there, right? Meanwhile, sharks, they're in the ocean, often way, way, way far away from any of us. We don't see them most of the time. When they come to shore, it's like a shark. Like, oh, my God, the sharks here. And then you add on to that. They don't have a taste for our flesh. They really don't like it. Like, this is gross. I thought you said this is seal. This doesn't taste like seal. It tastes like bleh. I don't know what that is. That's the shark, right? When they taste us. So they don't really attack humans because they're not interested. Meanwhile, hogs, they've got a taste for the flesh. They like it.

[Amin Elhassan]

I saw a video the other day, maybe they can find it for us. Of a guy on a kayak who was clearly being trailed by a great white shark. Like, the great white shark was curious about him. And he's on a kayak, and the great white shark is big than the kayak and it's just following him to shore. And that guy was paddling, terrified with his GoPro, just saying, oh, my God, oh my God, for almost an hour, just trying to get away from a shark that, you know, just was super curious about what was happening with that kayak and the size of that kayak, because it probably looked like the shape of a seal.

[Dan Le Batard]

That's what it is. So they attack surfers the most because surfers lie on the surfboard and then they paddle. And so for a shark that doesn't have great eyesight, it's looking up, the sunlight is coming down, and you see a. Of something very wide and long, and then little, little appendages on the side kind of flapping around like, oh, that's a seal. They go up there. Oh, that's not. What is this? That's what they do. So the kayak probably doesn't look quite as much like a seal as a surfer on a surfboard would, but enough for the shark to be like, what is that?

[Mike Ryan]

Why does the show always make apologies for the shark? It's sickening.

[Dan Le Batard]

I have. I have a deal with the sharks.

[Mike Ryan]

Hey, you spit those facts to the people that lost their lives tragically on the USS Indianapolis, all right? Those sharks seem to like human flesh plenty.

[Amin Elhassan]

That's a Nicholas Cage vehicle, right?

[Mike Ryan]

It's a historical vehicle. It's something that actually happened. But, yes, there's a movie starring Nicolas Cage that documents his tragedy.

[Amin Elhassan]

Thank you.

[Mike Ryan]

It's actually pretty good.

[Amin Elhassan]

And that is why Chris Cody is starring on today's Pablo Torre finds Out. Which begins the lowering of Pablo Torre's general standards.

[Dan Le Batard]

Bye, Chris.

[Amin Elhassan]

Let's.

[Mike Ryan]

Let's go watch Trigger the Elevator.

[Amin Elhassan]

Let's go to the video. Grab some video for me while you guys are looking up that kayaker who's being trailed by a great white shark so that I can show it to everybody because it's horrifying. Will Ferrell. Will Ferrell has been somebody who has not been doing very much lately that has resonated comedy aging. It usually ages poorly. And on top of that comedy, huge

[Mike Ryan]

breaking news out of Washington, D.C. this one affects every sport, including the World Cup. The Supreme Court has upheld birthright citizenship, rejecting Donald J. Trump's proposed limits. Yeah. That is massive. All right. Yeah.

[Dan Le Batard]

Usa. Usa. Usa.

[Mike Ryan]

We did it. Usa. Thomas is definitely going to be retiring, and that was done, apparently, in a backroom deal. And Donald Trump is going to get. Get another young Supreme Court justice. That's. That's probably the bad news, that. And he was awarded the power to fire any independent evaluator that he sees fit in the government. But let's be happy today right now. Yeah. Look, give us our 30 minutes. Flo Baligan, Birthright Citizen.

[Dan Le Batard]

I really thought we're gonna get more Bronny James news.

[Mike Ryan]

I was looking for some NBA news also. Christopher Morell has signed with the New York Mets.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah, Sam Earl's brother.

[Amin Elhassan]

As I was saying about comedies in general have last 10 years of movies. I guess people aren't in the mood to laugh or comedy is harder to make in movie form. I don't know what you guys would say is the best comedy made in the last 10 years if you had to make a choice. The one that people were talking about together at a time, you know, was hangover and Adam McKay made an assortment of movies from Anchorman to Stick Step brothers that. That were very popular and responsible for funny for a generation. But it's been about 10 years since any movie like that resonated. Will Ferrell was at the center of many of these. What is he advertising for here? Do you know what this is a commercial for?

[Mike Ryan]

Well, it's. I think it's actually a commercial for his new show, but it's through skims, which is Kim Kardashian's underwear brand. Apparently, they do men's. And he is here, what looks to me like a Speedo, but apparently it's some skims underwear. And he's just looking. Who we kidding here? He looks good.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, no, he did not. You must be kidding everybody, because his face looks.

[Mike Ryan]

He's an old man. Look at him.

[Amin Elhassan]

Well, we can all hope.

[Mike Ryan]

How old is he? He's like. Is he approaching 6? I hope I look like that at 60. He has to be 60.

[Amin Elhassan]

Has to be. No, I. Is he. I think he's in. I'm. I would guess mid-50s, but those are tighty whities or tighty whitey adjacent. And he's doing physical comedy there. His face is as thin as it's ever been, but those are not flattering. That.

[Mike Ryan]

That would be 58, Dan.

[Amin Elhassan]

So he's my age, and he's got

[Mike Ryan]

that belly button you want to avoid. There's no doubt about it. So he's your age. All right, let's compare and contrast. Yeah, similar. Getting your tighty whiteies. Yeah, he's got a great farmer's tan going.

[Amin Elhassan]

I'd rather have Will Ferrell's body than my body. So you think that that's what my stomach looks like? Because it's not what my stomach looks like. But now you guys are forced me to do this. That. That's not a great look for the audio.

[Mike Ryan]

Tomorrow show that exact outfit. I'm adding it to the grid of death, that's for sure. Damn it, he loves the costume.

[Amin Elhassan]

I wouldn't love that costume.

[Dan Le Batard]

He's done, he's done it before, though.

[Amin Elhassan]

Yeah, I have, but I, I, I trained for that by juicing and by doing an assortment of body paint and stuff.

[Mike Ryan]

Oh, you're on peptides.

[Amin Elhassan]

Distracting techniques and stuff. So you don't want to do it again? I mean, a speedo is aggressive. I don't think. There are not a lot of hiding places in a speedo. I didn't think there was any chance I was going to lose that Bet. It was LeBron and Wade and Bosh against Dirk Nowitzki and DeSean Stevenson. How did I lose that bet? How did. I didn't think there was any circumstance in which I would lose that bet. And I didn't think there was any circumstance in which Charles Barkley would pay that bet because he was going to be in the speedo if he lost that bet. Allegedly. But there's just no way that he would have ever been caught in a Speedo. Although maybe now, maybe now Charles has lost a ton of weight.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yes.

[Amin Elhassan]

He, he, he, in fact.

[Mike Ryan]

And you found it.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

Why was that delivered in Zagaki's voice?

[Mike Ryan]

You know why.

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't know why. I don't know why you just did that.

[Mike Ryan]

Sorry, I'm upset at this ruling. Call it that.

[Amin Elhassan]

Birth, citizenship is what you're upset about.

[Mike Ryan]

I'm happy about it, man.

[Dan Le Batard]

Is that Clint Eastwood?

[Mike Ryan]

No, I'm Joe.

[Amin Elhassan]

His impersonation is just his hands. Like if he doesn't know why, if he doesn't do Joe Biden with the hands.

[Mike Ryan]

Come on, man, we gotta come together.

[Dan Le Batard]

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[Dan Le Batard]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Amin Elhassan]

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[Mike Ryan]

World War Three colon. Our group chat has a pretty good feeling about this one. This is the Dan Levatar Show. Why did Pablo ask you on the show again? What do you find out together? Range.

[Amin Elhassan]

Pablo Torre finds out features Chris Cody today. And I urge you to listen to Pablo on Next Steps because he's actually, this one's interesting to me and I don't think it would be something that would afflict any of us here. One of the things that I was talking to Pablo about is the idea of ambition. How lonely ambition can be and how insatiable ambition can be. So show immediately after winning the Pulitzer, a prize that not many people in America care about anymore. But Pablo cares about it, I care about it, and some select journalists care about it. Although I heard from none of them when we won the Pulitzer. Not a. Not a single one. I did not hear from a single

[Mike Ryan]

disappointed you the most.

[Amin Elhassan]

I mean, it's just so many, so many.

[Mike Ryan]

Like there's not here from Cornheiser.

[Amin Elhassan]

There's not a journalist friend of mine who reached out.

[Mike Ryan]

Not one Michael Keaton, that movie, nobody. Lists of friends.

[Dan Le Batard]

They all, I guess they all hit me up. I was supposed to tell you nobody

[Amin Elhassan]

reached out but the winning of a Pulitzer. Pablo's immediate reaction to that, and I found it so curious, and it's why I'm in the weird position of urging him at all times to lower his standards slightly so that he can be having more fun and so that he can turn that into the equivalent of a radio show that is personality driven, that doesn't require all of these deep dive investigations that take so much time. He's doing the hardest thing, the hardest way. And upon winning the Pulitzer, his immediate reaction is now, what are the expectations now? What's the pressure? And I'm like, what are you talking about? Like, behave like you've arrived, because you have arrived. You have an audience. The hardest thing to do, the hardest thing to do in this business. An audience that trusts you, you to take them where you're going. There's nothing harder you can go ahead and live the rest of your life. You'll find nothing harder than finding the audience that trusts you so much that they'll be loyal to you because they believe that the things you're making are things worth listening to.

[Dan Le Batard]

I can think of something that's a little harder. Winning a Pulitzer.

[Amin Elhassan]

I disagree.

[Dan Le Batard]

There are a lot less Pulitzer winners than there are people with audiences.

[Amin Elhassan]

There are not. Not even Dave Barry Nobody I heard from nobody.

[Mike Ryan]

Wow, zero people. That really chapped you, huh?

[Amin Elhassan]

I was just surprised by it. And it just taught me.

[Mike Ryan]

Seems like you're hurt.

[Amin Elhassan]

No, it taught me that people don't care about this thing anymore. Like, it's an obvious. To me, it was more sad for the industry than it was sad for myself because when I called Pablo to congratulate him, he had to remind me that I had also won a Pulitzer because that we had won a Pulitzer because. Because we're funding everything that Pablo is doing until it has now become a viable business. And I'll tell you guys here, everyone I talk to, everyone I talk to, all of. Here's another group of friends, my financial friends, my financial advisor friends. Add it to the list. All of them said to me before the Pulitzer was won, they're like, Dan, banks don't take awards. Like, as a company, you have to make sure that what you're interested in the most is profit, not awards. This award, though, is a bankable award, but it's not a bankable award that most people who are listening to this care about in any way. And I would argue amin an audience that trusts you and will go wherever it is that you are. In sports, I think there are fewer of those than you think there are. When every year there are many Pulitzer winners, but there are not many audiences in sports that trust their host to wherever that host goes, they will follow that host because they trust that the things being made will be good things.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know. I mean, don't. Then you talk about. Obviously I did a lot of research when it happens, how many times does a sports story win a Pulitzer? Because again, when Pablo told me the news, I said, wow, that's cool. We won the sports Pulitzer. And he said, no, no, there's no such thing as a sports Pulitzer. It's just the Pulitzer. And so when you look at that, the number of stories that are sports related, that won are very limited. And they're usually again, stuff that speaks to anybody, any citizen, regardless of whether they know or care about the sport or not. So a lot of them have actually been in local reporting and kind of things of that nature. So I don't think when you talk about a sports story winning a Pulitzer, it's comparable to the number of people that we know have audiences, and we know it because they find themselves getting all types of deals and stuff because of those audience.

[Amin Elhassan]

Fair enough. Which do you think is more valuable? Let's ask the question that way. Which do you think is more Valuable. An audience that trusts you or a Pulitzer, sir.

[Dan Le Batard]

Dan, the virtue of having something excellent is payment enough.

[Mike Ryan]

Not Jeremy Shap, Bob Lee.

[Dan Le Batard]

You don't, you don't think, Dan, that there's a. There's a value that's not. I know we live in a capitalist society and we have to monetize everything, but isn't there a value in there that. Hey, I don't get an extra dollar out of this, but you're going to have to call me Pulitzer Prize winning Amino Hassan for the rest of my life.

[Mike Ryan]

Charles Bricker.

[Dan Le Batard]

Oh,

[Amin Elhassan]

what the hell sound was that?

[Dan Le Batard]

You remember Charles Bricker? You know who Charles Bricker is?

[Amin Elhassan]

I don't think anybody is going to be calling you Pulitzer Prize winner Amin Elhassan for the rest of your life.

[Dan Le Batard]

They have to.

[Amin Elhassan]

What do you mean they have to?

[Dan Le Batard]

They have to. I correct them. Hey, hey, I'm at a cocktail party. Hey, you gotta meet my buddy Amin. Like that's not my name. My name is Pulitzer Prize winning Amino Hats.

[Amin Elhassan]

Are you guys gonna come up with a comedy in the last 10 years that everyone is. Everyone who's listening to this would say, yes, that's the one. Yes, that's the one. That's the. That's the movie that was made that is funny. Because that's a fairly startling thing to have happen, don't you think? The fact that we all kind of want to laugh and movies are an escape. So I would assume that during these particular difficult times, people would want that escape even more. And yet Hollywood is having all sorts of trouble making movies that are fun.

[Dan Le Batard]

I don't know if it's classified as a comedy, but I think Barbie was a comedy. No, and everyone. And everyone saw that.

[Mike Ryan]

That's a great one. I mean, thank you, Pulitzer Prize winner.

[Dan Le Batard]

Thank you.

[Amin Elhassan]

See, when I think of Barbie, though I put it, I put comedy a distant second to. Of our times and about female empowerment, making fun of men.

[Dan Le Batard]

So wait, so comedies can't have a store of message in it?

[Amin Elhassan]

Yes, of course they can. But I. But when the message is a serious one about our times, it's generally not what I associate.

[Mike Ryan]

Why are you doing that?

[Amin Elhassan]

I think comedies are empty calories. What do you mean, why am I doing that?

[Mike Ryan]

I believe it was nominated by the Golden Globes as best picture comedy.

[Dan Le Batard]

You know what, Dan?

[Mike Ryan]

So is the Martian, by the way, not a comment? Real knee slapper.

[Dan Le Batard]

Why are you tearing it down, Dan?

[Mike Ryan]

I mean, why do you always. May I give you some feedback? All right.

[Dan Le Batard]

Yeah.

[Mike Ryan]

Kenny, you often do this where you're like, can someone answer this question for me? And we, like, we were like, let's get Dan this question. Answer it. Let's do our very best. Let's put our minds together. Let's give him an answer that'll make him proud. And you know what he does?

[Dan Le Batard]

What does he do?

[Mike Ryan]

Nah, that's not good enough. I'll change. Let me move the goalpost. Barbie's a comedy.

[Amin Elhassan]

Put it on the poll. Was Barbie a comedy at LeBatard show? And then put it on the poll as well. Was Barbie first and foremost a comedy?

[Mike Ryan]

There you go.

[Dan Le Batard]

Go.

[Mike Ryan]

You're literally picking up the goal post and moving them to the next county.

[Amin Elhassan]

You know what's funny about that? Saying you can move the goal posts and the scoring place still becomes the same. The goal posts. Like, you can move the goal posts all you want, but the goal line stays where it is. That's where the touchdown is. Move the goal post back and forth all you want. The scoring is the same at the goal line.

[Mike Ryan]

Why don't you ever get a piece of helpful information from us and say, guys, domo already.

[Amin Elhassan]

Origami.

[Mike Ryan]

Yeah.

[Amin Elhassan]

What? What is it that you said? Do you remember what it is that you said?

[Mike Ryan]

Origami.

[Amin Elhassan]

So how would you feel about the super bowl being decided by just bringing the kickers out and kicking field goals?

[Mike Ryan]

Many of them are like, so many Super Bowls are decided this way. So many huge games are decided by it. In a sumo wrestling match between your biggest players in the middle of the field, you put a circle. Sumo wrestling. If you're arguing whether, like, soccer actually has it right, because you'll have the moment where Messi or Ronaldo step over the ball. In the NFL, it's not Tom Brady, it's Gustavski.

[Dan Le Batard]

What if the NFL had penalty shootouts with field goals but not with the kickers? You gotta have like. So I gotta see what kind of

[Amin Elhassan]

leg Mahomes has Zach Seeler out there trying to kick a field goal. They could be a little bit like Greg Cody, tear his quad. Why were you on NBA Race arguing Pro Messi when I think you are America's foremost messy critic?

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I host the show. That's why I was on NBA Radio. But so as I was mentioning earlier, my co host just could not believe that Messi was a far bigger deal than LeBron. And I said, it's not even close. And so he's like, well, what about this? What about that? And so I says to him, what's the second biggest sport in the world? And he says cricket. I said, oh, okay, yeah, cricket's number two. Then I said, name, ah, cricket player. He couldn't. I said, that's my point, that you can acknowledge that there's something massive out there. Massive that is completely out of your. Your purview. So yes, it is possible that the most popular play player, the most popular athlete in the world is Leo Messi. Even though you exist in this bubble where LeBron is the biggest team ever.

[Amin Elhassan]

If Messi is the most famous person in the world, who's second? Like, do you go into entertainment to grab second or is it gonna always be an athlete? Like, if Messi is indeed the most famous person in the world, was is second place from sports or is it from someplace? Is it from music man?

[Mike Ryan]

I don't know. I don't. I think you can hop into any cab anywhere on the plane planet and strike up a conversation about Messi Ronaldo. Whereas if you try to enter the very same cab and say bad Bunny, they may not know what you're talking about.

[Dan Le Batard]

Well, I'll tell you what. Michael Jackson, he's not alive, but Michael Jackson, absolutely. There's not a place on earth where they don't even speak English where they don't know Michael Jackson.

[Amin Elhassan]

You guys got any nominees for second place here? Comment like currently Roman Reigns maybe this

[Mike Ryan]

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