Zaslow Is Fired Up For Rousey/Carano + Mike Can't Get Into The Wire | Hour 2

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

Episode: "Zaslow Is Fired Up For Rousey/Carano + Mike Can't Get Into The Wire | Hour 2"
Date: May 15, 2026
Location: Elser Hotel, Downtown Miami

Overview

This lively episode finds Dan Le Batard, Stugotz, and the crew buzzing from Miami as they share their eclectic perspectives on sports, pop culture, and nostalgia. The main theme centers around the upcoming Netflix MMA card headlined by Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano, including anticipation, skepticism, and the evolving landscape of combat sports broadcasting. Alongside, the group dives into shows they just can't get into—despite critical acclaim—plus tales of driverless cars, sitcom nostalgia, and streaming culture.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Netflix Fight Card & MMA's Mainstream Shift

• Netflix’s Entry Into Live Sports (01:38-04:00)

  • The group discusses the significance of Netflix hosting its first live MMA event: Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano, Nate Diaz vs. Mike Perry, and the return of heavyweight Francis Ngannou.
  • The panel quizzes each other about who actually subscribes to Netflix—revealing Dan only does so because of live sports.

• Anticipation and Skepticism Over the Card (04:04-09:50)

  • Tony describes the event as a “fun card,” likening the Diaz–Perry fight to “two uncles fighting at a barbecue.” (04:34)
  • There's fascination with the return of both Rousey and Carano after long absences, noting they look fit but questioning the legitimacy and possible spectacle/challenge of the bout.
  • Stugotz bluntly states: “I am going in with incredibly low expectations. I think it’s going to be a total shit show, really.” (09:31)

• Promotion & Objectification Concerns (06:22-08:57)

  • Discussion about the promotional tactics, including Rousey and Carano’s appearance in dresses. Chris questions if promoters are “trying to, sort of, sex them up,” prompting comedic but careful pushback from Dan and Stugotz.

• Conversation About Fighters' Physical Readiness

  • Noting both women look far lighter than in their original MMA careers and speculating about the effects of such a long layoff for Carano (17 years). Tony notes, “they look like models out there.” (06:15)

2. Jake Paul, The Paul Brothers & Combat Sports Evolution

• Jake Paul's Injury and Career Impact (10:23-12:17)

  • The hosts discuss Jake Paul’s recent devastating jaw injury, contemplating whether it may actually end his boxing career. Dan credits Paul for the risk and competitive spirit: “He might have legitimately ended his boxing career such that it was.” (10:24)
  • The conversation pivots to the divisive but transformative role of the Paul brothers in combat sports, commending their disruptive influence and spotlight on overlooked fighters, especially women.

• Fighter Autonomy & UFC Monopoly (13:14-13:42)

  • Dan opines: “I don’t think it’s a bad thing to try to break up UFC’s monopoly of combat sports, especially when it comes to the labor rights of the people actually doing the fighting.”

• Stugotz Affirms Support (13:23)

  • “I like the Paul brothers. I'll just say it. I like them.” – Stugotz

3. Rousey vs. UFC and Fighter Pay Critique

• Rousey’s Recent Criticisms & Response to Khamzat Chimaev (21:08-23:05)
  • Rousey distinguishes loyalty to Dana White and the Fertitta brothers, but fiercely asserts: “I do not owe TKO’s UFC a damn thing.” (22:27)
  • She claps back at Khamzat Chimaev calling her “ungrateful,” turning up the trash talk: “Unlike kumquat, I have a 100% finish rate.” (22:52)
  • Tony explains the nickname, noting Chimaev’s cleft lip and implying Rousey is deploying material written with Netflix’s promotional flair.

4. Streaming Culture and Peer Pressure: What Shows Can’t You Get Into?

• Mike Can't Get Into "The Wire" (35:05-36:01)
  • Mike Ryan confesses, “I gave The Wire a try… Not for me. I don’t get it. I understand it’s well made…Yuck.”
  • Stugotz admits struggles with “The Boys” (Amazon Prime) despite loving the genre.
  • Chris owns up to never seeing “Family Guy” as a Simpsons loyalist (32:22), sparking friendly debates about TV allegiances.
  • Tony roasts "The Bear" for unnecessary stress: “For me it was The Bear… is there more to this?” (35:44)

5. Driverless Cars & Tech Skepticism

• Waymo and the Fear of Smart Cars (24:12-28:20)
  • Stugotz introduces a story of Waymo AI-driver cars running stoplights and baffling neighborhoods by clustering on dead-end streets in Atlanta.
  • Chris voices hesitance about being an early adopter: “Why are you putting yourself into the experiment right now?” (27:25)

6. TV Nostalgia: Rewatching, Syndication, and Generational Watching

• Sitcoms and Weekend Bingeing (33:36-44:36)
  • The cast reminisces about shows like “Full House” (Dan watched it with his dad, now with his daughter), “Martin,” and syndicated classics—“MASH,” “In the Heat of the Night,” “ALF,” and “Matlock.”
  • Chris shares his personal TV rites of passage: “I’ve seen every episode of MASH against my will or otherwise…” (41:00)
  • The group joyfully relives moments from “Martin,” “Red Shoe Diaries,” and “Taxi Cab Confessions,” blurring lines between innocent nostalgia and after-hours HBO mischief.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the Netflix MMA card:

  • “I am going in with incredibly low expectations. I think it's going to be a total shit show, really.” – Stugotz (09:31)
  • “That fight’s going to be fun. The return of Francis Ngannou... it’ll be cool to see Francis back into the Octagon. That guy, when he steps into the Octagon, it’s like, oh my God, anything can happen.” – Tony (05:11)

• On Jake Paul:

  • “He might have legitimately ended his boxing career…he risked life and limb.” – Dan (10:24)
  • “They’ve done some good things with their cards. They’ve given fighters opportunities, especially in women's combat sports.” – Dan (13:24)

• On Ronda Rousey vs. Khamzat Chimaev:

  • “I do not owe TKO's UFC a damn thing.” – Ronda Rousey via Stugotz (22:27)
  • “Unlike kumquat, I have a 100% finish rate.” – Ronda Rousey via Stugotz (22:52)

• On trying/watching popular shows:

  • “I gave The Wire a try… Not for me. I don’t get it.” – Mike Ryan (35:05)
  • “I love The Bear, and I don't like the way you're speaking about it.” – Stugotz (35:47)

• On driverless cars:

  • “That can’t be the excuse when I’m in an 8-car pileup because there’s no driver in this car.” – Stugotz (25:04)

• On syndication/nostalgia:

  • “I’ve seen every episode of MASH against my will or otherwise. It was the only thing... after school, mash.” – Chris (41:00)
  • “90s are the best.” – Stugotz (44:32)

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Noteworthy Timestamps

• 01:38 — Netflix MMA card preview begins
• 04:04 — Card breakdown and crew expectations
• 09:31 — Stugotz’s skepticism about the main event
• 10:23 - 12:17 — Jake Paul’s injury and aftermath
• 13:14 - 13:42 — Dan’s take on UFC monopoly and fighter rights
• 21:08 - 23:05 — Ronda Rousey vs. Chimaev/lead-up drama
• 24:12 - 28:20 — Waymo/driverless cars debacle
• 32:22 - 36:10 — Pop culture “blind spots” — The Wire, The Boys, Family Guy, Bear, Euphoria
• 41:00 onwards — TV nostalgia: MASH, syndication, Martin, “after hours” HBO, 90s favorites

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Tone & Style

True to the show’s reputation, the episode is unpredictably fun, rebellious, and irreverent, with a mix of sharp insight on sports and media, playful teasing, and genuine camaraderie. The hosts move fluidly from hard-hitting sports takes to lovingly mocking each other’s TV tastes, always with a sharp Miami wit.

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Takeaways

• The Netflix MMA card is a watershed broadcast moment, delivering spectacle but raising doubts about quality and marketing tactics.
• The disruption of traditional combat sports by streaming platforms and the Paul brothers is both celebrated and critiqued for its circus-like aspects, but ultimately praised for empowering new fighters.
• Nostalgia for syndicated TV and generational viewing habits remains strong, even as today’s streaming culture fragments collective experience.
• The hosts’ candid admissions of popular shows they “just can’t get into” humanizes the sports talk bravado and resonates with anyone feeling out of step with the latest must-watch TV.
• Underneath the laughs and ribbing: a sharp awareness of shifting media, sports, and technology landscapes, always filtered through the show’s unique, unfiltered lens.

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Transcript

[Dan LeBatard]

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[Stugats]

So the basketball and the hockey is now going to be a limit. Little limited on a nightly basis now as both of the sports are heading into their conference championships. We're not going to have multiple games every night, but there is something going on tomorrow night in addition to the basketball and hockey on Netflix. Mike Ryan, do you get Netflix?

[Dan LeBatard]

I do.

[Stugats]

Roy, you get Netflix?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't.

[Stugats]

Chris, you get Netflix?

[Chris]

I do.

[Stugats]

Tony, get Netflix.

[Tony]

You already know.

[Stugats]

Dave, you get Netflix. Do I get Netflix too? And tomorrow night? Well, I'll give you my password. And tomorrow night you got the the the MVP card right? And it's Ron. What are you laughing at?

[Tony]

The password Roy doesn't have Netflix is crazy.

[Stugats]

I'll get my password. Sigh.

[Dan LeBatard]

I the only reason I have Netflix is because they ventured into live sporting events.

[Stugats]

Is that true?

[Dan LeBatard]

That's the only reason I don't like Netflix shows. They're not for me.

[Stugats]

Do you have every streamer now?

[Dan LeBatard]

I with I was the last holdout, the last streaming platform that was holding out on was Netflix. Everything else. I have to have everything because I'm a soccer fan. I cannot follow that sport without every other streamer.

[Stugats]

Dave, do you have every streamer?

[Chris]

Pretty close. Although we do do the thing of, like, we like that series, and so we turn it on for a few months.

[Stugats]

Give me the free three months. Right. And you watch the show. That's good move.

[Chris]

We play that game. Yeah, we get. We get a little thrifty here. I just have to say very quickly, without derailing anything. My wife heard me through the wal, was very upset that I declared that she thought that Drake had won the back and forth. Oh, Kendrick Lamar. She said, how dare you misrepresent me? You have to correct that. It's out in public. I think that Kendrick Lamar clearly won. He humiliated him, and everybody thinks he's cooler, except apparently for Tony.

[Tony]

I'm on the right side of history on this one.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, you're not. That's a west coast. That's a west coast bias, though, from the Danishek household.

[Stugats]

So as I was saying, tomorrow night on Netflix, you got the. The first ever uf, not ufc, first ever MMA card, MMA live event on Netflix. The first thing I want to ask before I get into the things that I do have an opinion about as far as tomorrow night goes, is this overall, like, is this a good card? Is this going to be a good show?

[Tony]

Card's gonna be fun. There's gonna be a bunch of scraps on it. I think the Mike Perry, Nate Diaz fight is going to be super cool.

[Stugats]

It's gonna be Nate Diaz. Every time I see him, you know, you're looking to promote the fight.

[Dan LeBatard]

He.

[Stugats]

He's bored out of his mind.

[Tony]

I mean, he. Like, he's also stone out of his mind, too. That also kind of, like, makes things a little bit even made. Made Ariel Hawani hold the blunt the other day. Like, I don't.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't want to.

[Tony]

I don't want to hold this.

[Stugats]

I saw at the. The open practice sessions, he was just smoking a blunt and shadow boxing, and he was, like, trying to, like, shadow

[Chris]

box the guy with the camera.

[Tony]

That's Nate, though. Like, and that's why him and Mike Perry's gonna be an electric fight. That's what I called it. A un Backyard scrap. Like two uncles fighting at a barbecue. I love that.

[Stugats]

I love how much Nate Diaz loves his brother.

[Chris]

Yeah, he.

[Dan LeBatard]

He.

[Stugats]

He thinks. Yeah, for the video team here, it's just. That was the open season yesterday. He's, like, attacking the camera guy while Smoking a blunt. He's just. It's a joint. Oh, he's. He's trying to take down the camera guy. Definitely a joint. I love how much he loves his brother. Like, he claims his brother is the greatest MMA fighter of all time, right?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Stugats]

Which is obviously a ridiculous thing to

[Tony]

say, but again, you got to step up for your bro. Keep it 10 toes down.

[Stugats]

I like how tight they are, so go ahead.

[Tony]

No, so that. That fight's going to be fun. The return of Francis and Ganu, after all the stuff that he's been through between leaving the ufc, between personal tragedy, between the boxing and now coming back, it'll be cool to see Francis and Ganu back into the Octagon one more time. I don't know what his future looks like as far as where he's going to be fighting with PFL or with another MVP card, but that guy, when he steps into the Octagon, it's like, oh, my God, anything can happen. He's literally the hardest puncher that we've ever seen in modern heavyweight history.

[Stugats]

But the headliner is absolutely. Rousey and Carano for sure.

[Tony]

For sure. It's been. It's been deemed the headliner for the card. You can watch us on YouTube at 8pm MMA Hangouts, presented by Netflix for this card. So we'll be watching through from 8pm through the end of the fights, which will be fun.

[Dan LeBatard]

Tony, this is the first time that you've done an MMA hangout for a non ufc.

[Tony]

Non UFC event.

[Stugats]

Oh, cool.

[Tony]

Exactly. So it'll be the first one, and what a better one to do it on Netflix with. With a very fun card. I'm interested to see how the Gina Carano and Ronda Rousey fight goes, because, like we talked about, both women have been out of the sport for a decade and almost two decades. They're looking good. They look fit, they look slim. They look like they're ready for a fight.

[Stugats]

Tony, they look like models out there.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is a very different camp than they're used to.

[Stugats]

It's. It's like. I don't know if strange is the right word. I don't know if you saw Dave, but they came out, they're doing the poses and everything, and. And the two of them come out, they look like models. They are in unbelievable shape, and they're both. They're wearing these sexy dresses. They're wearing dresses for changing.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Shift in the paradigm a little bit. I kind of like their approach to Rhonda has been, you know, pretty out there with some quotes in the lead up to this fight. She's not pulling punches there for both fighters. I don't think I can remember a fight where they came in this light.

[Tony]

Yeah, it's. And usually what you're doing, you're bulking during the. The camp, and then you cut to try and make weight and everything, and it feels like they're kind of hovering where they don't really have to cut weight. And that's one thing that's super important in at least the ufc when you're going up and you're probably weight a weight level above where you're actually fighting. So you got to cut a bunch of weight to make your weight. Right now, it doesn't look like there's any weight cut happening whatsoever for anybody.

[Stugats]

Rousey looks the slimmest. I've, you know, slimmest fittest, however you want to put it that I've ever seen. And Gina Carano, who has not fought in 17 years. All right, that's crazy. I would have to guess that there's never been a mixed Martial arts fight with someone who has gone 17 years between fights.

[Dan LeBatard]

I remember there was a card at the LA Coliseum. It was Brock Lesnar's first ever MMA fight, and I ordered the pay per view because I was curious to watch Brock Lesnar fight. And Royce Gracie was on that card, and he was fighting a professional fight. So I'll look it up. This may not be as unprecedented as you think.

[Stugats]

Well, Gina Carano. Yeah, go ahead, Dave.

[Chris]

I'm just curious about what you mentioned. So, promotionally, they're there, they're trying to, like, sort of sex them up is basically what you're saying. Well, no, we're not putting him in dresses and everything.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're not trying to say that. Yeah, no, we're actively trying to not say that.

[Stugats]

Yeah, we're not trying to say that. I just.

[Dan LeBatard]

We're trying to be as careful as we can to not say that, and.

[Chris]

Well, you just said they came out in dresses and put them out. I mean, if that's what they're doing.

[Dan LeBatard]

No, that's exactly. Yeah, that's exactly what we said. But we didn't say what you're alleging we said because we tried to not.

[Chris]

I got you.

[Dan LeBatard]

I guess. So I am not gonna. I'm not gonna hop on the microphone and be accused of objectifying anybody unless it's a man there.

[Chris]

So they're not gonna. They're not gonna like League of Their Own. It like, yeah, you guys can fight, but you have to wear dresses while you do it.

[Dan LeBatard]

These two ladies are definitely in a league of their own when it comes to the promotion of this fight. It's not something that we're used to.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

And I think that's by design, and I think it's effective.

[Stugats]

Yeah, I would say you're probably right. It's probably completely by design because I've never seen anything like that before.

[Tony]

Ladies are fighting at 145, so women's featherweight division, so probably not having to cut a ton of weight because they're probably both around that mark.

[Stugats]

Well. And Gina Carano, I don'. Remember what she looked like when she was fighting, but I know what she like. She's an actress, too, and I know what she looked like when she was in Deadpool, but we don't have that conversation. I think she won.

[Tony]

She'll be back.

[Stugats]

I remember what she looked like in Deadpool, and she was. I mean, she looked strong.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Gladiator strong.

[Stugats]

Yeah. Yeah. And she does not look like that now. I'm interested in the fight. I'm always interested every time Ronda Rousey fights, and I am going in with incredibly low expectations. I. I think it's going to be a total shit show, really.

[Dan LeBatard]

I think this card's going to play out. I'm pumped.

[Stugats]

I'm saying that fight, not the card.

[Dan LeBatard]

Okay.

[Stugats]

Possibly.

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't know where their cardio is, and these were two bigger fighters, so it's probably. When your main concern is the cardio, it's probably a wise choice that they've cut so much weight for. For this fight, but I think this is going to go better than the Jake Paul Mike Tyson circus, which had an entertainment value. Netflix seems to do interesting things with their combat sports broadcast, so I'm curious to see how MMA is separated from that. By the way, while we're on the topic of Netflix, I don't know if you guys got into it when I was away, but have you seen the Jake Paul news?

[Stugats]

He might not fight again.

[Dan LeBatard]

Jake Paul, like, I think I want to give Jake Paul a lot of credit because everybody's fear about this fight was like, look, if this is on the up and up, Jake Paul can die in this fight. And while there are certain portions of the Internet that think this is overstated because it's setting up a narrative about a comeback fight or whatever, his jaw got destroyed, and that's a big deal for a fighter. He might, in taking that fight and being brave enough to take it, he might have legitimately ended his boxing Career such that it was. Now maybe he goes back and is a little bit wiser about choosing his opponents. I'm sure that's fine. Curious to see if he shows up to this event because he's apparently been blackballed from the UFC events because having rival is his deal. He actually volunteered that he can't even watch his brother compete in the WWE because of the parent company. Really? Yeah. Because you know that's bad blood right there.

[Stugats]

So he's blackballed because he's a competing promotion.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes.

[Tony]

And probably other things too.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

I mean he takes shots at Dana specifically. He has one of the former UFC high ranking employees matchmaking over there. So there's a lot of bad blood there. I kind of get it. But I do think that Jake Paul and this may surprise him in the audience. I want to give him credit for taking that that fight because he legit got rocked. He legit might have ended his career in doing well.

[Stugats]

Yeah, like wouldn't one of the things that someone would have said going into the Jake Paul Anthony Joshua fight was if you take this fight, this guy will end your career. And that's literally played out what might be happening.

[Dan LeBatard]

It played out. It wasn't just fight hype, it was legit. Jake Paul risked life and limb and his career. He may never fight again.

[Chris]

Isn't that good ultimately for the sport of boxing legitimately? Doesn't that, you know, I think not for Jake Paul. I understand it's not. But ultimately it is kind of good for the show. Jake Paul, obviously he's a self promoter and that's why he got into the ring and the reason he took his risk. But in the same way, I feel like in game interviews of players diminish the drama. Like, what are we doing here? I thought that, that this is way too intense. They're singularly focused on the task at hand. Now they're playing grab ass with a sideline reporter while the game's going on. It diminishes that. I think Jake Paul surviving in the ring is bad for boxing. What you want to say is see what happens. See what happens. You think you can mess around and get in here with us? You can't. You can't compete with us. You want the, you want the vibe of like, man, these guys are different.

[Dan LeBatard]

Put me down for two non meager defenses of Jake Paul. I think competition is great. I think it's great for all combat sports.

[Stugats]

I like the Paul brothers. I'll just say it. I like them.

[Dan LeBatard]

I look, they, they've Done some good things with their cards. They've given fighters opportunities, especially in women's combat sports.

[Stugats]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

I, I don't think it's a bad thing to try to break up UFC's monopoly of combat sports, especially when it comes to the labor rights of the people actually doing the fighting.

[Stugats]

They're very, very pro fighter.

[Chris]

Yeah, very.

[Dan LeBatard]

And you can say a lot of things, a lot of things about Jake Paul. I do think he knows the world of boxing. I do think he knows and picks the right boxers to put a spotlight on that aren't getting a fair shot. Ultimately, you can have whatever issue you have with the circus, headline attraction, and I get that. I get all of that, trust me. But he brings people into the tent. And the circus is not just Jake Paul. There are reputable fighters there that are itching for a chance. They that have become stars, that have made money because of Jake Paul.

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[Dan LeBatard]

Chris, Cody, when you come over to my house and we put on the games, I got basketball, I got baseball going on. But what do I lay out for you and the boys for entertainment and drinking?

[Chris]

Miller Line.

[Dan LeBatard]

Uh huh. Those beautiful white cans or on draft or the bottle if you prefer.

[Stugats]

Oh, when you Open that with the

[Dan LeBatard]

can, though, and you. One of the best sounds on the planet. You pair that with the right game. You take that first sip, we both look around. It's not a bit. I have goosebumps thinking about the first sip. We take that first sip, we open it up, and we're looking around. There's just that five seconds of almost eerie silence where you're just soaking it all in, and you're like, man, did we make the right call or what? That's why we reach for Miller Lite. It's clean, refreshing, easy to drink, brewed for taste with simple ingredients that golden color. Just 96 calories and 3.2 carbs. The original light beer since 1975. And it still hits different. I love you, Miller Lite. Cheers to legendary moments with Miller Lite. Great taste. 96 calories. Go to millerlight.com dan to find delivery options near you, or you can pick up some Miller Lite pretty much anywhere they sell beer. It's Miller time. Celebrate responsibly. Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Tony, you know that moment at a party or at a tailgate where everything just sort of clicks?

[Chris]

I know it well.

[Tony]

It's usually when I show up, everybody goes crazy.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. You usually take all the credit for it, but it's because Tony usually walks in with Cuervo. Walking like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cuervo is a thing that turns hanging out into this is the night.

[Tony]

It has that effect on people.

[Dan LeBatard]

It does. You usually take the credit for it, but again, it's the Cuervo effect. It's like that moment in a big game where everyone in the crowd just starts standing up, hooting and hollering. Keep it Cuervo.

[Chris]

Keep it cuervo, baby.

[Stugats]

Don LeBatard, can I tell you something? I don't know. It was maybe like a month ago, and I decided to watch Pitch Clock, and I told Jeremy Stugats. This is a good show you're doing. This is the Dan Levatar show with the Stugats. Yeah, I. I like Paul brothers. Everything you just said about Jake Paul and Logan Paul. Look, everybody knows at this point I'm a huge pro wrestling guy, and Logan Paul is a fantastic, fantastic professional wrestler. He's really good at it.

[Chris]

Dave, I also think if you're an MMA fan and you want it to become bigger than it already is, I think you do want somebody to emerge to sort of push back at Dana White. I mean, Dana White, whether He wants it to go this way or not, is turning it into. He's steering it hard into a certain demographic, or maybe he's just acknowledging the fact that it never is going to be mainstream. That it is. It belongs to that demographic. And maybe in that way, as commissioner of this sport, you know, I always think about, like, Gary Bettman, they wanted to. They want hockey to make it in the Sunbelt, and it's been, you know, fits and starts for 20 years. And you guys have benefited from it ultimately, but, man, it seemed for long stretches, they're like, are you sure you want to try to mainstream this sport? It might just be better off as a fringy provincial sport, Canada and colder places. But if you want MMA to get bigger, not smaller, then I think you do want the Paul brothers involved with it, because Dana White is, like I say, intentionally or otherwise, steering it in a direction where only a sliver of the population is going to care about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yesterday I had the controversial remarks that I like watching people fight for money. I'm going to maintain that take. But also, without this card, I'd not be watching mma. I haven't been watching the UFC as much lately, and it's because of the star power kind of lacking a little bit, and maybe some other things. But in this card, I'm getting a dream fight. Yeah, maybe it's 15 years too late, but it's a fight that every mixed martial arts fan wanted to see. I'm getting a backyard barbecue fight between two guys that are going to come out swinging, and I'm getting the return of the heaviest punching heavyweight, the most menacing heavyweight that we've seen, maybe ever. I mean, Brock Lesnar was pretty scary, but Ngannou is. Got the bonafides, got the punching power, and he is returning to mixed martial arts, returning to the Octagon. I think that is a huge deal for mixed martial arts. And this could be the seed of something that finally challenges. Look, we've well chronicled the challenges that are facing the UFC and their attempts to try to be something for everybody. Netflix is starting from scratch here. They can actually achieve that.

[Stugats]

Look, It's. It's been 10 years since Rousey fought most of Rousey's fights, which, by the way, she only fought eight times in ufc. Now, she was in another promotion before ufc, but it's not like she was. Had this long, huge UFC career. She. She was 6 and 2, losing her last two fights, and then she, you know, was a huge sore loser, and she left, and she refuses to talk about it. And essentially the same thing happened with wwe where she was like a huge sore loser. She doesn't like the way things went and she left and she doesn't want to talk about.

[Dan LeBatard]

She doesn't leave places well, and she burns bridges. There's plenty of bad things that you could say about Ronda Rousey, but, you know, it's combat sports. You check a lot of that at the door, unfortunately.

[Stugats]

Well, so some of the bad things that she said, she's been really critical in this lead up to this fight of UFC, but, like, critical of TKO's UFC because TKO was not the parent company yet when she was fighting for them. So she's been extremely critical of ufc. And Hamza Shimaev, who just recently lost to Sean Strickland last weekend, I guess, decided to respond to some of Rousey's comments calling her ungrateful toward ufc. And so here's Ronda Rousey now coming back at Khamzat.

[Tony]

I asked you on Monday how you

[Dan LeBatard]

felt about some critics out there who are hearing you talk about fighter pay, hearing you talk about the sport, about

[Tony]

the UFC fighters like Khamzat Chimaev, who was on camera criticizing, saying that you're

[Dan LeBatard]

essentially biting the hand that fed you

[Tony]

back in the day, that you're coming across as ungrateful for everything that they did for you. What is your response to those people?

[Stugats]

Well, I would want to make something abundantly clear, and that's that I owe

[Chris]

Dana and the Fertittas immensely and I would be caught dead before you ever heard me say a bad thing about any of them.

[Stugats]

But my loyalty is to. To them and not the company they sold. And I do not owe TKO's UFC a damn thing.

[Chris]

And Cleflib Lincoln is just hating because

[Stugats]

at his press conference for his fight,

[Chris]

people are asking about me and my fight because no one gives a shit about his ineffectual wrestle.

[Stugats]

And people are actually, they can't stop

[Chris]

talking about this fight because it's so stacked.

[Stugats]

And they're actually excited to see me fight because unlike kumquat, I have 100% finish rate. Unlike kumquat. Is that true, Tony? Are they inefficient wrestle fests?

[Tony]

I mean, I mean, look, clef lip link, cleft lipped link.

[Dan LeBatard]

Explain that one for me.

[Tony]

Yeah, so Hamza Chimaev has a cleft lip that they fixed. So he's got like a bit of like a scar here. And he also has like the Dagestani, Chechnya, Muslim Russian beard that has just the Beard with no mustache.

[Dan LeBatard]

You got that Netflix writing, no doubt.

[Tony]

Yeah, yeah, they probably slid that one to her. They're like, here, if you ever talk about Hamza, read this one. It's a bar, but yeah, it's. It's not ineffectual. Like he's. He was one of the highest prospects and one of the best fighters until this past weekend where Sean dominated him. But that's. That's the fight game, right? Like, you step into the octagon, you close the doors, and anything can happen. She does have 100% finish rate because she also got finished.

[Stugats]

That's right. Even in her losses, she has 100% finish rate. So I'm into it. I'm a watch tomorrow night that's on Netflix. But also make sure you tune in to Tony. Say it again, Tony.

[Tony]

8:00pm on the Levitard Show YouTube channel, presented by Netflix MMA. Hang out. We'll be hanging out 8:00pm to the end of the card. So we'll give you a nice little pregame show. The card starts at nine. We'll start at eight. Getting everything ready here, here.

[Stugats]

So why are you doing that again? So here is something that we've been talking about for really the last week, and that's these. The Waymos and I love this. The driverless cars within 10 years. Tony believes within five years, we will not be driving as human beings anymore. It's going to be driverless cars, which is crazy. But I saw before we get to the video that Chris saw yesterday, I saw a video a few days ago. I think it was in Dallas. I saw a video a few days ago where it was caught on camera. A Waymo just completely blowing the stoplight at a busy intersection, making a left into oncoming traffic. And it's like, that's scary.

[Dan LeBatard]

Are you hopping out if you're in

[Stugats]

that Waymo hopping out to move, like, I gotta get out of here. It's making a left at an intersection into oncoming traffic. It just straight up blows the stop sign. And apparently, like the Waymo customer service said, the light on the stoplight, the way the sun was reflecting off, it was very confusing what color the light was. Okay, well, that can't be the excuse when I'm in an eight car pileup because there's no driver in this car. Go ahead, Chris.

[Dan LeBatard]

This is a news report from Atlanta, where a neighborhood has just been bombarded with in the morning, like between 7 and 8, they just. And like Waymos without passengers in it.

[Stugats]

It's almost been happening on multiple days or Is this just one day, multiple

[Dan LeBatard]

days where it just seems like this is where the waymos are hanging out in between gigs? Apparently so. Here's the news report. It explains it all. But Atlanta people, this neighborhood, not happy with Waymo. Waymo after Waymo after Waymo enter this dead end street usually early in the morning. I think yesterday morning we had 50 cars that came through. Between six and seven neighbors on battle view drive started seeing the autonomous driverless cars two months ago. But the groupings and large number of waymos just started circling in and out in the last couple weeks. They even shared video with us when neighbors used this little guy to put him right out here in the street to block the waymos from getting into the cul de sac. And you can imagine what happened next.

[Chris]

And we had at one point, eight

[Dan LeBatard]

waymos that were stuck trying to figure out how to turn around. The waymos are empty and not picking anyone up. Parents are worried, not only calling it excessive, but dangerous.

[Stugats]

So they put these little kids are

[Dan LeBatard]

playing signs in the middle of the street. And it caused this like backup of just. If you weren't watching us, there's 10 cars, 10 Waymos they can't reverse. So it's just.

[Stugats]

They're trying to do seven point turns to try and get out of the road.

[Dan LeBatard]

But I like this neighborhood. Taking it in their own hands of like, no, no, this is not your. Just little drive around area.

[Stugats]

Now why before they put the cones there, which then created essentially a. A traffic jam, why were the way mos all being directed to this cul de sac?

[Dan LeBatard]

I don't think it's explained why this was the area. Maybe they're near an airport where they just need. They have all these waymos that are

[Stugats]

available to pick people up.

[Dan LeBatard]

Where do you go when you don't have a call? Do you just go and park somewhere?

[Stugats]

No, in Atlanta, apparently they just go

[Dan LeBatard]

to this neighborhood and circle around.

[Stugats]

That's creepy to me, man. Whether.

[Chris]

Whether or not Tony is correct about where we're headed in five years or in 20 years, what is the advantage in 20, 26 of putting yourself into one of those cars? I'm so. To be like one of those people who's like, let's burn the. Who's at the stake. Like, they're a witch. But what, what. Why are you putting yourself into the experiment right now? It's sort of like the people who want credit for like, look, I'll eat the. The hottest wing that they got in the shop. Look, I ate the hot wing. And everybody's like, who gives a crap? Good for you. The people who it's almost like a a thing people brag about. Like I went in a waymo good for you. You put your life in peril with with a ghost driver. No thank you. Let me know how it all turns out. If they're still going and and they aren't driving through stop signs and stop lights and showing up in Atlanta where they're not wanted, then I'll get in. For the time being, I'll continue to drive myself.

[Stugats]

I like driving. Me too.

[Tony]

That's why I'm sad then. Five to 10 years, they're not going to want us on the road anymore.

[Stugats]

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[Stugats]

Don LeBatard. I've never stepped foot on that campus. If you told me right now your life depends on it. Go to Santa Fe University and just take a picture.

[Dan LeBatard]

Stugats.

[Stugats]

I would die. I don't know where it is. This is the Dan Lebatar show with the Stugats. I told you we got something to watch tomorrow night on Netflix with the Rousey Carano fight. But also this weekend, I don't know if you saw. This is the series finale of the Amazon show the Boys. You guys know that show, right? I think it's the sixth season and the Boys is ending. The finale is this weekend. It's a very, very popular show which comes from a very popular comic that they have brought to life. And I gotta be honest here, I've tried several times, like I've watched, I think the first three plus seasons of the Boys. I've tried several times to get into this show. I keep starting and stopping and starting and stopping and I can't stick with it. And you would think someone like me, I love superhero movies. I love Marvel. I love D.C. star Wars. Yes, it was George Lucas's birthday. Star Wars. Okay. I love these kind of movies. You would think that I would love whatever, man. You would think that I would love the Boys and Dave. I. It doesn't hold me. I can't stay with it. And, and it had me thinking, like, this is one of the rare shows that you would think is up my alley, that a lot of people really love. And I just, I don't get it. Like, do you have a show like that that you would see? Like, wow, everyone likes this show. I gave a try and just. I can't do it.

[Chris]

It's not for me, definitely. Well, first of all, I've never seen an episode of Murder She Wrote. I never saw Simon and Simon and they were popular long running shows, but the one currently that I think people would think like, oh, you must watch that show, Family Guy. Never seen an episode. Why? Because I've taken a stern posture against it. Because I'm a Simpsons loyalist.

[Stugats]

Really? You think you're betraying the Simpsons if you watch Family Guy?

[Chris]

Well, I don't think Family Guy exists without the Simpsons. And that's a straight line. But yeah, no, I feel like the Simpson I. I've seen enough clips, and I've heard people do the impersonations, and I, I. The Stewie is a thing. I know all that, but that's about the extent of what I know. A family Guy.

[Stugats]

Have you ever say, have you ever seen Euphoria?

[Chris]

Homer and company never have seen an episode. Now, I assume that that's one of those ones that ain't. I. I was like the people who like our contemporaries. As you. I'm sure you know guys like this, like, fam. A Full House. They bellyache about Full House. Like, it's so. Have you ever seen Full House? It's not funny. It's like, they don't make it for you, man. It's for little kids. Same thing. Euphoria. Like, I don't think I'm supposed to be watching it. People would find me a creep if I were. Right.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm presently rewatching Full House with my daughter. We only got a dozen episodes left. I'm enjoying the hell out of it.

[Chris]

Well, that's nice, because you're a girl, dad.

[Dan LeBatard]

That's why. Yeah, that's right. Very special bond. Although it's like one of the. My dad had and I had very few things in common. It was wrestling, going to movies, and we would watch Full House together. So it's like a weird thing that I'm handing on down.

[Stugats]

Full House was the show that you and your father would watch together.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, because he would have me on Tuesdays, and it was on tv, and we loved.

[Stugats]

We and my father. The show that we used to watch.

[Dan LeBatard]

Dad hat.

[Stugats]

Me and my father, the show we used to watch every week, we would never miss Martin.

[Dan LeBatard]

Martin was a great show. Good choice. Good choice. There is a gaping hole when it comes to TV syndication. The original binge watching. I miss it. I used to be a Family Guy fan, and not unlike the Drake, Kendrick Lamar discussion that we were having, south park did an episode in which they totally took out the writing process. Basically, it was just a bunch of manatees grabbing random balls in an aquarium and putting together a Family Guy storyline. And I stopped watching Family Guy after that. I'm like, they absolutely murdered them.

[Tony]

I like the thought of Dave being like, I'm a creep if I watch Euphoria. And everybody's like, yeah, you know what that's about, right? Because what I know of Euphoria, I'm like, who's. Who is this for?

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, well, not. Not for us is the answer. But to answer Zaz's original question, I gave the Wire a The Wire. Everyone says the Wire.

[Stugats]

You can't. You couldn't get into it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Oh, and I gave. The first season is very tough. But, dude, I went. I extended midway through the second season, and I know, like, I stopped right before everyone says, oh, really? That's good. If I got to give you a season and a half. No, not for me. I don't get it. I understand. It's well made. I know it has its fans. Yuck. For me, it was the Bear. I've worked in. I've worked in restaurants. I can let you know it's not that intense. Yeah, dude, the Bear. I like the first episode of the Bear. I like the second episode of the Bear. Third episode of the Bear. I'm like, is there more to this? Then the 11th episode of the Bear rolled around, and I said, I'm out.

[Stugats]

I love the Bear.

[Dan LeBatard]

Unnecessary stress.

[Stugats]

I love the Bear. And I don't like the way you're speaking about it.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah, patty melt. Patty melt. Where's the.

[Stugats]

I need the pepper for the patty melt.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm hiding the pepper for the patty melt.

[Stugats]

You have to yell cousin in the middle of that stupid.

[Tony]

Somebody smoking a cigarette somewhere.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yes, Chef. Yes, Chef. Yes, Chef. Where's the pepper? I hit it because I hate you. Oh, corner. Yeah.

[Chris]

Too much with it. Too much with the chef honorific behind. You know, I'll go. I'll go Doctor. I'll go Senator. I'll. I'll.

[Stugats]

I'll.

[Chris]

I'll probably go even coach. But chef is where I draw the line. I'm not calling you chef. I'm calling you Gary.

[Stugats]

I do find it interesting that all of them are referred to as chef. Like, they can't all be chef.

[Tony]

The sous chef, you got the main chef.

[Stugats]

All chef, apparently. Me and my father, we never miss Martin. I think it was Thursday nights. I think it was Thursday night. We loved that show.

[Dan LeBatard]

You remember when it was before New York Undercover? Oh, yeah. New York Undercover. What a. What a show. I don't really watch shows all that much anymore. It's just sports or movies from the 90s. Back to back. Nights I watch Jade and Fire in the Sky.

[Stugats]

Oh, I told you, Jade. I told you. A part of my triple feature, sneaking in movies when I was 15 years old. Jade Linda Fiorentino.

[Shabba]

Come on.

[Dan LeBatard]

I'm gonna go back and listen to the cinephobe episode that those guys did on Jade because I. I can't stop thinking about this. This car chase scene.

[Stugats]

Was it good?

[Dan LeBatard]

There's a car. Well, I've seen this Documentary on William Friedkin, the director of Jade and famously the Exorcist. And he's just a terror to work for. Seemed to be a horrible human being. And I didn't know that he directed Jade. There is, I'm not lying to you, a 12 minute car chase here that I think for most of the car chase tops out at 9 mph and they're going through the streets of Chinatown in the Bay Area. And there is one part where Angie Everhart gets hit by a car. And I've never seen someone fly so far in a movie. It's Must Watch and Fire in the Sky. Great abduction scene.

[Stugats]

Oh, you watch Fire in the sky

[Dan LeBatard]

for the first time. I was always scared to watch it because they would take out print ads in comic books when I was growing up and it had a very iconic print ad of the dude caught up in the tractor beam. Right. And I saw that, that film and wow, incredible.

[Stugats]

I remember when Fire in the sky came out. I was young, obviously. That movie was scary to me.

[Dan LeBatard]

It was scary. That abduction scene is legit scared. Now, the pacing does not work for today because you don't see one of the, the aliens until like 90 minutes into this thing. But Dave, I'm curious your thoughts as someone that it was of high school and college age in the 90s. Jade and fire in the Sky.

[Chris]

How say you saw Jade in the theater? That's how old a man I am. Also, I talking about what we've missed and everybody else seems to love is. I actually just last night started to watch it because somebody in Miami said to me, really? You've never seen any of the John Wick movies? And I said I should correct that. I should check these out. I watched the first hour of it. Consider me underwhelmed. What so far, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick with it. It's fine. He's a killing machine. I get it. Great. How many different times do we need to see him shoot a guy up close, turn the gun up, shoot him from under the chin. Like just basically Keanu Reeves shooting guys with the gun pointed at him from extreme angles. But you know, it also occurs to me with the rewatching of old movies that I was flipping the dial and what did I land on every time I say it? I'm gonna watch Hun Red October. It's one of those movies that if wherever it is in the movie, end up sitting there watching it. And I realized it has now surpassed for me this isn't a qualitative assessment for me, I don't like Hunt for Red October more than I like Shawshank, but I've officially now seen Hunt for Red October more than I've seen Shawshank. Because for all the complaints that I helped perpetuate, like, is Shawshank Redemption ever not on the cable dial all of a sudden? The last couple of years, it hasn't been on very much in Hunt for Red October has surpassed it in terms of total watches. How say you?

[Stugats]

I mean, you know how hard me and my dad laughed the first time Shanae Nay came on the screen. You know, Martin played Shanayna.

[Chris]

He.

[Stugats]

He was the actor. He was playing Shanae.

[Dan LeBatard]

What?

[Stugats]

And Broman. You know about Broman.

[Dan LeBatard]

Bro man in Rewatch. I didn't notice this initially, but you know that Jesse Katsopoulos cousin that came over from Greece, that was also John Stamos.

[Chris]

Really?

[Stugats]

Does it hit you a little bit different now when Aunt Becky comes on screen?

[Dan LeBatard]

Say what? Say what?

[Stugats]

You know what I'm talking about.

[Dan LeBatard]

She does what?

[Stugats]

Colleges, the money.

[Dan LeBatard]

What'd you just do with your hand? She looks tremendous.

[Stugats]

Yeah.

[Dan LeBatard]

Fighting shape. Netflix fighting shape.

[Stugats]

A little bit shady though, these days, you know, A little bit shady.

[Chris]

Anyway, I've seen every episode of MASH against my will or otherwise. It was the only thing to Mike's point. You know, syndicated sitcoms. I vaguely recall Gomer Pyles being fed those at a very young age. But then MASH took over and it wasn't just one episode. Much like you see Seinfeld or Friends episodes rerun back to back. That's what filled my TV after school mash. I had to endure the transition from Trapper John into Beach, that whole thing.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know, that complete overhaul summer vacations in Miami meant that during a stretch of the day, Nickelodeon turns to Nick Jr. And you're too mature for that. So you go around the dial and you settle in on in the Heat of the Night on wsvm.

[Stugats]

Oh, what a show. What a show.

[Dan LeBatard]

You know why? Like they kept showing in the Heat of the night on Channel 7. They showed this show well into like the 20 teens.

[Stugats]

Yep.

[Dan LeBatard]

And it's because SVN, the parent company, owned the redistribution rights to that series. So they were self dealing and they kept that in Matlock on the air forever.

[Stugats]

What a movie. In the Heat of the Night. Come on, the Original Dave. You know what I'm talking about.

[Dan LeBatard]

Sidney Podier.

[Stugats]

It's any party.

[Chris]

It was, right? Yeah, yeah. Very strong.

[Dan LeBatard]

What happened though?

[Chris]

Speaking of rerun half hours after hours, Red Shoe Diaries oh, yeah, I know.

[Dan LeBatard]

I know.

[Stugats]

Zazlow, Avid viewer. An avid viewer, of course. Pants on.

[Dan LeBatard]

All right.

[Stugats]

You don't need to say it so loud, but. Yes, I like your diaries.

[Dan LeBatard]

More of a paradise guy on the E. Channel.

[Stugats]

Yes, of course.

[Chris]

The story lines, the important storylines, the scenarios that. What was his name? Zoltan.

[Stugats]

Who's.

[Chris]

Who's Red Shoe Diaries? Were they. There was always. There was always a name in front of them. They belonged to some guy. I don't know who it was, but it was like Zoltan's Red Shoe Diaries. And then they always laid out these scenarios on a train or from outer space or who knows what. Like, I'm gonna have to go down to the planet Earth to experience what this thing sex is about. And all that backstory, fascinating stuff week after week. Rachel died.

[Stugats]

Dave, you know about those Taxi Cab Confessions?

[Chris]

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Now you're talking. Watching those as well.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah.

[Chris]

House. Dream on, Brian. Ben.

[Dan LeBatard]

Ben, you know about that Air Force Amy. Don't know what it was. Is a smell of Soprano.

[Chris]

Not too hard of a chuckle from Dave. She's on it.

[Dan LeBatard]

We like to have fun.

[Stugats]

Oh, man. You never got into the Wire. That's.

[Chris]

That's.

[Dan LeBatard]

No. But I would stick around for the after hours program and no doubt, man,

[Stugats]

I did a re. Binge about a year or two ago of Martin holds up, man. Yeah, still really funny.

[Dan LeBatard]

I. I watch all these things back. The movies from the 90s and Full House too. And I'm like, man, that's one generation when they say, you know, we had it made. The Internet was even like, early Internet was still exciting and not weaponized against us. The 90s, man, what a time.

[Stugats]

90s are the best out the best.

[Chris]

ALF sucked, though.

[Dan LeBatard]

Yeah. Easy. Big alf guy. I remember my first time getting in a cab in Vegas. Just kind of like looking over my shoulder like, am I in it?

[Stugats]

You were hoping.

[Chris]

Driver to the Bunny Ranch.