Covino & Rich - A Browns Sabotage?

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show

Covino & Rich – "A Browns Sabotage?"

Date: August 26, 2025
Network: iHeartPodcasts / Dan Patrick Podcast Network

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Covino & Rich dive into the swirling controversy around the Cleveland Browns, Shadur Sanders, and accusations of “sabotage” concerning his preseason treatment. With the NFL regular season on the horizon and fans abuzz over roster moves, the crew tackles whether Sanders, a 5th-round draft pick with a big name and even bigger expectations, is being set up to fail — or if it’s all just noise. Along the way, they connect the story to broader themes of opportunity, accountability, and the business of winning in the NFL, while maintaining their trademark humor and lively banter.

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Main Discussion Points & Key Insights

1. Setting the Stage: Sports in Late August

• Hosts highlight the excitement of the season: NFL preseason, impending MLB playoffs, major fights, and the sports calendar heating up.
• “It’s a great time for sports fans. September, October, it's a whirlwind for baseball and football heads.” – Rich (06:44)

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2. The Sabotage Question: Shador Sanders & The Browns

The Controversy

• Shador Sanders, a 5th-round rookie QB and son of Deion Sanders, gets media and fan attention far beyond the average late draft pick.
• Unlike typical backups, Sanders is the “number one rookie selling jersey,” drawing outsized interest and scrutiny (13:05).
• Fans believe he wasn't put in a position to succeed: removed from key “two-minute drill” situations, played behind weaker offensive lines, and surrounded by less talented teammates during preseason.

Hosts' Take

• Accountability meets reality: Both Covino & Rich challenge the sabotage narrative, pointing out:
  • This is a result-oriented business — "The name of the game is winning" (21:51).
  • Coaches, notably Kevin Stefanski, “want to win and keep their jobs. Sabotage doesn’t make sense” (23:34).
• Comparisons: Drawing parallels to other players with passionate fanbases (e.g. Angel Reese), the hosts highlight how some fan groups shield their favorites from criticism—sometimes deflecting blame onto everything but the player (12:29).

Notable Quote

“Is it sabotage or not? I do believe he was not set up to succeed in this moment, but I don’t believe it’s sabotage against the guy.” – Covino (34:50)

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3. The Reality of Preseason and Team Evaluation

• Preseason isn’t about winning but evaluating talent: “Preseason is not about winning. It's about evaluating... you need to keep your young guy in.” – Caller “Max in Kentucky” (40:02).
• Many QBs—including higher picks—have to bide their time, accept bad circumstances, and compete for few snaps.
• Covino shares a personal analogy about accountability and the importance of making the most of imperfect opportunities, paralleling the situation to their own careers in broadcasting (15:27).

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4. Fans, Media, and the Narrative Machine

Fan Reaction vs. Player Behavior

• The hosts distinguish between the noise generated by fans/media and Shador Sanders' own actions:
  • “He’s not the one complaining — it's the fans. Shooter Sanders is carrying himself in a pro way.” – Rich (21:14)
  • “I find him to be very likable ... That's why I find it hard to believe it's sabotage.” – Covino (21:24)

RG3’s Analysis

• RG3's argument: Sanders “never got a fair shot” – played with inferior linemen and WRs, while Dylan Gabriel “got to play with the proper talent” and succeeded (25:15).

• RG3:

  “Yes, Shadir Sanders was a fifth round pick, but he ain't never been a fifth round talent... Cleveland is not doing that [giving him a chance] right now.” (25:15)

• But even RG3 admits a mix of issues: two sacks were on Sanders holding the ball too long (25:54).

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5. Call-In & Audience Feedback Highlights

• Mark from Indiana: “If his dad’s name was Cliff, nobody would care...” — The Sanders name drives the hype (37:59).
• Andre from Miami: Relates the situation to Jimmy Johnson choosing Troy Aikman over Steve Walsh, concluding, “Feelings don’t matter. It’s about winning.” (38:47)
• JP from OKC: “Give credit to Shador, he’s not complaining publicly... not sabotage. He’s a fifth-round pick. That’s what it comes down to.” (40:35)
• Doug from Maryland (Raiders fan): “He’s a project… Hasn’t played against any first team defenses. I don’t want him on the Raiders. It’d be JaMarcus Russell all over again.” (51:12)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the fan-driven “sabotage” narrative:

  “It’s always something else. So keep that in mind when we discuss the story.” – Covino (12:26)

• On personal accountability:

  “In life, there's something we've learned the hard way—it’s called accountability. At the end of the day, it’s your name on the show.” – Covino (35:16)

• On NFL realities:

  “When it comes to Shador Sanders, do you cry about it or do you blame someone else?... Some people just aren't set up to succeed. So we can't discount that as a possibility. But is it sabotage? Like, is it intentional? Is the question.” – Covino (18:11)

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Key Timestamps

| Segment/Topic | Timestamp | |-----------------------------------------------|---------------| | Sports calendar excitement | 05:46–06:44 | | Sabotage theme song/Browns intro | 07:01 | | Beastie Boys, fan loyalty, athlete narratives| 08:03–12:29 | | Shador Sanders’ treatment, meme analysis | 12:29–14:55 | | Accountability and personal stories | 15:27–16:55 | | Tom Brady/Trevor Lawrence, success contexts | 18:11 | | Dylan Gabriel stats contextualized | 14:55–15:17 | | RG3’s “not a fair shot” argument | 25:15–26:24 | | Calls & audience perspectives | 37:59–41:36 | | Host summary: sabotage vs. setup | 34:50 |

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Episode Tone & Style

• Friendly, lively, and occasionally irreverent—Covino & Rich balance sports insights with pop culture references and personal anecdotes.
• Direct about controversial topics, but often end debates with a “both could be true” moderation, inviting audience perspective.
• Stay focused on the heart of the Browns/Sanders debate; the "sabotage" storyline is handled with skepticism but fair exploration.

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Takeaways

• The alleged “sabotage” of Shador Sanders by Browns staff is more a product of fan fervor, online narratives, and high expectations than actual organizational intent.
• In the NFL, winning (and evaluating talent in preseason) supersedes all, and most decisions are judged harshly only when big names—or big fan followings—are involved.
• The conversation highlights tricky intersections of fandom, accountability, fairness, and how heightened expectations alter perceptions of “opportunity” in professional sports.

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Transcript

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

Yeah, buddy Rich thinks he's Marty Jannetti. He's more like Marty McFly. He's more like George McFly.

[Rich]

Cavino and Rich, your damn hands off of her.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

Hey, what's up, buddies?

[Covino]

Hey, what's up, man?

[Rich]

Got balanios on the update today. Danny G. Ryan and monsieur, I hear this is the, like, the rude thing you could say to women. You should smile more. Wrong camera. Hi, Monty.

[Monsieur]

Oh, yeah, I know. That's one of the worst things I've.

[Rich]

Seen so many women on social media be like, the grossest thing a guy could say is, you should smile more.

[Monsieur]

I've had that. Literally, like, random men come up to me, that is. Mind your business. Mind your business. Especially because you guys know me. I'm always smiling, right? So it's like when a stranger says.

[Rich]

That to me, there's something oddly condescending and so rude. So, guys, just a stranger. A lesson learned. One minute into the show, you could.

[Monsieur]

Tell me because you know me, it'd.

[Covino]

Be different, but a strange.

[Rich]

Well, let me tell you, if you're.

[Covino]

Trying to kick it, and that's the. You know what they say, too, Rich. I always hear this. You look tired. Like that says something people want to hear ever.

[Rich]

But you look ugly.

[Covino]

Shut your mouth.

[Rich]

Guys, I'm helping your game. Guys, what you shouldn't be saying to women during the break, I'll tell you that. It's much worse than that. Oh, there's much worse things out there.

[Monsieur]

Don't listen to him.

[Rich]

But let me tell you, though, just a little lesson learned. Two minutes into the show, if you try to kick into a girl at a bar anywhere and you try to be kind, it's not flirty or friendly to tell a girl, you. You should smile more. No woman likes it.

[Monsieur]

It's not going to work. Even if you're saying it with a smile. Yeah, don't say that.

[Rich]

No doubt.

[Covino]

Well, you know what? I'll say, Monsieur, you have a great smile. Always glad when you're here. Thanks, guys.

[Monsieur]

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[Rich]

A little Aaron Rodgers. Is he crazy? Can we do a round of that today?

[Covino]

Yeah, absolutely. There's an Aaron Rodgers sort of update of his craziness, but lots of football today because. What's the count, Rich? Is it like 10 days? I don't know. I'm not good with math. My math isn't mathing. Is it 10 days?

[Rich]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.

[Covino]

10 days. It feels like just a few days ago we were saying just 2010 days now. So since we're all excited about that, some of us still in baseball mode, too, and that's okay.

[Rich]

Well, no, I. I told my kids yesterday because he know I'm all about lessons with the kids. I'm like, kids, if you like sports.

[Covino]

Like dad, you're all about stealing their snacks.

[Rich]

This is one of the best times of the year. You got pendant races going on in baseball. Football is about to begin. I always feel like late September, about a month from now, right? Like, we're entering the time where when football's like a few weeks in. And you're also really honed in on baseball playoffs. That might be my favorite time of the sports calendar.

[Covino]

It's a good one for sure. And you got some good fights coming up. So it's a great time for sports.

[Rich]

Think about it. If your team is in the baseball mix, like Monsieur Dodgers fan, right? What better than Dodgers baseball in the postseason?

[Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Rich]

And then when you're not watching Dodgers baseball, there's NFL on and college football. It really is like a great time for sports fans. Is this October, I think, like September. October is like 10 races in football.

[Monsieur]

October for sure. And then NBA even kicks up and NHL kicks up. October goes by in the blink of an eye.

[Rich]

It's awesome. I'm excited. Let's go now, Covino, there's a story I think we should start with. And it has to do with sabotage, Beastie Boys style.

[Covino]

Listen, all of y', all, this is sabotage. Listen, all of y', all, this is sabotage. You know what's funny about that song? Rich is like, and I love that Beastie Boys song. A lot of people forgot they played instruments. They started off as a punk band. You know, they dusted off those instruments, they came out with that bad boy. And that's what it's all about right now, the Sabotage. Or is it. Is it BS or is it Sabotage?

[Rich]

Before we get into that, I will say Beastie Boys are in a weird category where their name. You're not sure where it pops up. Cause when you talk about great rappers, because they were a group and they were in an odd time, like, I think people don't know where to categorize the Beasties. Danny G, you worked in hip hop back in the day. Don't you feel like the Beasties are in a weird, uncharted. No one knows where to put them.

[Danny G]

For sure because their early label, Def Jam, had them as like frat boy rap. And they hated being in that category. After it got played out. They wanted to be true musicians. So like Kove said, they went in, learned even more instruments than what they knew as kids, and suddenly they were doing underground rap.

[Covino]

But remember, Danny G, a lot of people should know that they're pioneers, dude. They were on the road with Run DMC in the early days. So I don't know if they get enough credit because I heard someone say this and it's true. This is what's true about the Beastie Boys. This isn't my theory. I saw this on TikTok and I agree it has to be true because I saw it on Social.

[Rich]

I mean, if it was on TikTok, it's true, right?

[Covino]

It's amazing because it's hard to explain why they're good because they're not really great at anything. If you're talking to someone new, they're like, well, were their beats good? And you're like, yeah. Were there bars? Were they great at instruments? Well, did he have great voices? But somehow collectively, they're legends and they're awesome and we love them. So listen, all of y'. All, Is it a sabotage? I don't think so, but you got to hear this one. It's about Shador Sanders, who it seems like we can't stop talking about in the season hasn't even started.

[Rich]

Well, before we get to this is Kevin Stefanski and the Browns front office sabotaging Shador Sanders. Let me just point out one thing before we get to There's a clip of RG3. Danny, I know you got fired up about. There's other headlines we got to remember. This guy's a fifth round draft pick. This guy's also not the top of the quarterback depth Chart. I was just asking Danny J. I go Danny, who's the third string quarterback.

[Danny G]

Of the Raiders is Cam Miller, rookie.

[Rich]

I'm a Niners fan. They just cut Tanner Mordecai. Imagine if any other team was making a fuss about the reps a third string or second or fourth string quarterback got. Imagine if any other team in the league was making a deal about, well, you know, the coach didn't put third string so and so in a position to succeed. You'd laugh at it.

[Covino]

And can't they all just get along like the Giants quarterbacks?

[Rich]

I wish that was the case. I wish the world could get along like the Giants. That I mean I'm. That team might be destined for trash, but that Giants look like they're having.

[Covino]

Fun until they start losing, right? It's fun right now. We'll see how it all pans out.

[Rich]

I want to go out for dinner with Jameis Winston, Russ and Jackson Dart. I feel like everyone's having a swell old time in the Meadowlands.

[Covino]

It does look like they're having fun, but not so much in Cleveland.

[Rich]

So again, I think what we all saw first. Danny, if you were watching some preseason, would you back me up in saying that when they took out Shador during a potential two minute drill, there was a sense of Tyler Huntley, huh. Who ended up being cut. Wouldn't it been cool to get a look at what Chador could do in a two minute drill game on the line? What a cool test.

[Danny G]

There's a little bit of double talking going on because the stands are also saying, well the everybody on the line got cut except the center but they also wanted him in for the two minute drill to see what he could do with the two minute drill. So it's almost like fans of athletes and we have some examples from the past where no matter what goes on with or around that athlete, they're always going to stick up for him.

[Rich]

It's wild. Again, this guy was not. We're not talking about Cam Ward or we're not talking about even Jackson Dart. We're not talking about a guy that was drafted early on. We're talking about a guy that if his name was not Sanders, you wouldn't even notice if he got cut. Not to sound like a jerk, but if he was not a Sanders and got cut, it would just be another unfortunate casualty of yeah, he didn't make the 53 man roster.

[Danny G]

Well, Covino, this is.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Danny G]

And Cove this. We talked about this during the NFL draft. This is all a product of that. How Many people were screaming that he should have went way sooner.

[Covino]

Yeah, I mean, regardless, he was a popular player and everyone is aware of him. But you're right. How often do you care about the third string? Was it 1 44th pick or whatever? It was not that often. But he has his fans because he earned his fans. I mean, he was an exciting player in college and he has a famous name and he has his fans. And I saw something, I think, I think Danny alluded to it because it was trending. A lot of people are comparing Shador Sanders to Angel Reese. Fans calling him delusional. Like, dude, he's not that good. He's third string. But for whatever reason, the fans speak out on his behalf. Kind of like Angel Reese, like, yeah, she's good, but is she that good?

[Rich]

Is she like female athlete of the year good? No.

[Covino]

And I don't know. The meme went viral. I'll read it. It says Shador Sanders and Angel Reese have the most delusional fans on earth. Everything is the fault of their teammates or racism or the refs or the coaches, their opponents, owners, or racism. Like it's never them. It's always something else. So they do have their fans. Think of it what you will. There's some truth to that, right? It's never like, yeah, maybe Angel Reese isn't that good or maybe Shadar Sanders just really isn't that good. It's always something else. So keep that in mind when we discuss the story.

[Rich]

That is a great meme, a great analogy, I'll give you that. Now you did say something that was interesting though. While he is a 5th round draft pick and fighting for a spot on the roster, he is the number one rookie selling jersey, which means you're right, he's not just a fifth round draft pick, He's a fifth round draft pick. But that comes with, with hype, which comes with popularity, which comes with, again, like jersey sales. People are rocking this kid's jersey, right?

[Covino]

And that's, that's the major difference between him and another fifth rounder or whatever, right? No, they're not getting that sort of hype, that sort of support, that sort of attention. So, I mean, this is a weird story and you got to figure, is it sabotage or not? 87799 on Fox. 87799 on Fox. You heard about the two minute drill. They took him out. We didn't see what he could do in that moment. Could he light it up? Could he lead a team? Could he fail in that moment? We don't Know, we didn't see it, but now the story is that Dylan Gabriel got to play with better talent than Shador did. Basically saying or implying that it's not his fault that he didn't do that great when he did play. Again, fans defending him, saying that they're not setting him up to succeed.

[Rich]

But is that, is that just more delusional fan delusional crybaby antics or like, can you really. I don't know any. Again, no other team, no other personnel have you heard complain that. Well, when you put this quarterback in, you also sort of threw him in there with your, your backup tight end and your third string line like this. Just to me seems like people love to build the case that Shador deserves more than maybe he does it at this point. Or do you believe there is sabotage?

[Covino]

I mean, well, you can't deny Dylan Gabriel's stats, right? He went 12 for 19 with 129 passing yards, one touchdown and 100.5 QB rating against the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah, but again, on the flip side, they're saying it's because he had better protection, he had better talent with him. Dude, this is get that same sort of love.

[Rich]

This is why I had that take last week when you and I were talking about how I can't put any stock in the preseason because you don't know who you're playing against or with or anything. It's, it's, it's odd. You know, let's hear.

[Covino]

But you know what? I'm thinking about it from a personal standpoint and I like to do this. It makes it more relatable. Right. Put yourself in his situation. There is some truth to it. It's happened. It's happened to us. Rich. That's why I have to say, okay, like you could take accountability and say, well, you know, Covino and Rich had a Monday through Friday daily TV show at night on espn. Right. Did we really have the best situation and the best resources to succeed?

[Rich]

Negative.

[Covino]

Did we really? Or are we just justifying?

[Rich]

No, listen, we here at Fox Sports Radio, we have been given the tools to succeed. We have, we have a great team around us and support and people. Listen.

[Covino]

We were not set up to succeed. We were very grateful to have an opportunity, but I feel we were necessarily set up to succeed. Now you have to be. I could sit there and cry about it or I could say, hey man, and take, or take some accountability. So when it comes to Shador Sanders, there seems to be zero accountability. At the same time, you understand there's a Mix.

[Rich]

I think a lot of times maybe if you're not set up to succeed, you got a man up or woman up and accept it. But you're right, that is a great personal example. Kavino and I had a pre tape a half hour TV show with a patch together, cast of like ESPN deportees, producers who were in Mexico City covering soccer and like we were pretty much given the like the ragtag crew and be like, hey guys, here's your opportunity.

[Covino]

And I'm like, an opportunity we worked years to get. Yeah. And it's like we were very pumped for. And looking back, it's like, man, I wish, I wish we had better resources. I don't feel we were set up the proper way. Now there's again two ways to look at it. We can cry about it or we could just blame someone else. When it comes to Shador Sanders, do you cry about it or do you. Or do you blame someone else? How do you feel about it?

[Rich]

I don't think you cry yet. And I'll tell you when you cry. You know who had every right to cry. And I'm not saying he had the last laugh, but I think eventually when his career was done, we all look back and say, you know what, he got a raw deal and he's better than we thought. Anyone else ever think of Alex Smith? Alex Smith had. I'm just making up a number off the top of my head. It might as well have been like eight different offensive coordinators and coaches his first like eight years in the league. Like this guy was on a trash Niners team that was giving, given a new playbook, new personnel, new coaching every year. And then when he finally came into his own, they're like, yo, later Kaepernick, come on in.

[Covino]

Yeah, that's a great point.

[Rich]

And Alex Smith could very well make the argument that, yo, if I was given a different set of circumstances, I would have been a different level qb.

[Covino]

So, you know, think about this, right? If we're going to explore all angles, when you open it up to you. Fox Sports Radio Nation, 87799 on Fox. Is it a matter of sabotage when it comes to Shador or do you not buy into it? You have to factor in that certain players are absolutely given a better situation to succeed. Best example probably ever is Tom Brady, right? He comes in, he's playing for the New England Patriots. I don't know if that's the best example ever. But then you got the Trevor Lawrences of the world who play for the weakest team of all time. Right? So some players situation are circumstantial. So there is. There is truth to the theory that some people just aren't set up to succeed. So we can't discount that as a possibility. But is it sabotage? Like, is it intentional? Is the question.

[Rich]

I think there's no intent here.

[Covino]

And same.

[Rich]

I think if we really think of this a little deeper, there's something to be said about complaining early on. I mean, we're talking about like, rosters haven't been set yet. It's not even the regular season.

[Covino]

We're.

[Rich]

We're like not even done with the preseason and there's already chatter. Like, to me that's like ultimately distracting and annoying.

[Danny G]

You know what's crazy is the first preseason game of the year for them, he went off. Remember, he was playing with the same backups, but he just had a better performance. I think that. And he's not the one complaining right now. Let's make that clear. It's his fans. He has extra fans right now because the sabotage goes all the way back to the NFL draft where all the conspiracy theories and rumors about him being blackballed, the NFL owners and teams got together and wanted to see block him out of being a top draft pick because of his attitude and cockiness and arrogance and all that. So I think this narrative is going to ride with him for a while.

[Covino]

It also comes from the fact that he wasn't. He sacked five times. In the last situation, he was.

[Danny G]

He lost 40 yards. He was holding onto the ball on a couple of those. RG3 talks about it On a couple of those sacks, he held the ball too long. The other times were just complete breakdowns with the O line.

[Covino]

Hey, dude, stats don't lie. They don't always tell the story, but they don't lie either. So negative. 40 yards, five sacks. He's not necessarily building a case for himself. Right. And it's a matter of accountability or blame it on someone else. Is he being sabotaged? Is he being set up to succeed? That's debatable. Is he being sabotaged intentionally? I agree with Rich. No way. Why would they want to do that? Why would they want to devalue their guy? If Gabriel's your guy or your second string, I should say, then he's your second string. Who cares? I don't think they're sabotaging this dude. But that becomes the storyline when things don't go his way.

[Rich]

Kavino. I think that there's a couple things to also keep in mind if you want to Add to this, like Shadar Sanders himself, we're blaming. He's not the one. It's the fans, right? It's the social media chatter. It's. It's. It's the fans. Shooter Sanders is sort of carrying himself in a. In a pro way. He's answered some questions about Dylan Gabriel and all this stuff I got no problems with.

[Covino]

He didn't necessarily put that fire out, but.

[Rich]

But I don't.

[Covino]

He sort of let it be like, yeah, I don't know what he meant.

[Rich]

But then again, I don't think Shador himself is doing anything.

[Covino]

I find him to be very likable. That's why I don't get it. So please keep that in mind, too. I know he could be a bit polarizing because of who his dad is, and some people don't like flashy. I happen to think he's pretty cool and exciting and must watch tv. I like the kid, so that's where I'm coming from. And that's why I find it hard to believe that a sabotage. I don't understand or see how they set him up intentionally to fail.

[Rich]

Cove, we've talked about this before with other cases in different sports, different athletes. The name of the game is winning, right? And when people call out things like blackballing or racism or all these things, I promise you, in a league that is predominantly African American, where winning is everything, like the idea of, like, sabotaging a guy if you don't. If Kevin Stefanski and that team thought they could take this trash team out of the basement and make them a contender with Cheetah Sanders.

[Covino]

Are you watching America's Team by any chance, Danny, about it?

[Rich]

I started episode one.

[Covino]

Jerry Jones takes out Troy Aikman for Berline because Berline's on fire, right? And do you remember, you remember the whole situation, a quarterback situation back then, and there becomes this controversy of, are you going to play Troy Aikman? And he's like, I don't give a diddly squat about a player's feelings at all. My job is to win. So he didn't care about playing Troy Aikman. He wanted to go with the hot hand. Because it's not about a player's feelings. It's about winning and doing what you. What you can. Everything you can as a. As a coach and as a team to win.

[Rich]

That's why I think the sabotage conversation is silly, because even back in the day, if you want to reference Bill Walsh. Bill Walsh, who? You think of him and Joe Montana like a combo like the west coast offense, Bill Walsh and Joe Montana. If you watch that cool under pressure Joe Montana documentary. Yeah, there was a point where Bill Walsh openly talked about how like, yeah, I'm sort of done with Joe. Bring in Steve Young and. And Joe Montana ended up winning two more Super Bowls for the 49ers. But Bill Walsh was ready to put feelings aside and be like, steve Young's my guy.

[Covino]

So let's make this clear then, Rich again. Covino and Rich, Fox Sports Radio. We're not saying racism doesn't exist. Believe me, it does. We all know it does. It exists. But in a situation where winning is everything, I think you're less likely to find it because they want to win. That's the name of the game, actually. Name the game is football. But like Rich said, the whole point is to win. So may the best man win. I think it's, it's less likely in this situation, but it always comes back to that. And if not, then why are people screaming sabotage? Well, again, if you just joined us, Dylan Gabriel got to play with the better squad, the better talent. They're saying Shador Sanders wasn't set up to succeed. He hasn't been set up to succeed in this moment. Five sacks, negative yardage. Sabotage or not. Your thoughts, you got to let us know at Covino and Rich at Fox Sport Sports Radio or call us or chime in live. We're on YouTube live.

[Rich]

By the way, the. The opportun. Now, record numbers of quarterbacks are getting touches, injuries, little bang ups where a guy misses a week. I believe there was some ridiculous number of how many QBs got a chance last year in the NFL shadow Sanders will get a chance and he'll get a chance to succeed. No one is rooting against him in that organization. That would be like the most foolish narrative of all time.

[Covino]

Unless his dad's working against him. There's a lot of, lot of whispers about that.

[Rich]

Well, I mean, listen, let's, let's listen to RG3 and then when we come back, we're going to take all your feedback. The phones are hot. Your thoughts on Shador, Kevin Stefanski, the Browns. Is it ridiculous to think sabotage or is there a part of you that's like, no, I could see it. So listen to RG3 and then we'll break and come back, take a listen.

[Covino]

And make no mistakes about it. Yes, Shadir Sanders was a fifth round pick, but he ain't never been a fifth round talent. That's why on his, in his mind, he is saying, I can change a franchise if you give me the opportunity to. Right now, Cleveland is not doing that. I looked at the the snap count chart. We'll throw that up for you guys on the screen, and people were saying, oh, he was playing with the same guys that Dylan Gabriel was. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. He was not. He was playing with the three fours and fives. Offensive line.

[Caller]

What?

[Covino]

How many sacks did Shadir have in the game?

[Rich]

More than five?

[Covino]

No, he had five.

[Rich]

Five.

[Covino]

He had five sacks in the game playing behind the three, four and five offensive line. Two of those sacks he held the ball too long. The other ones, he never had a chance. Wide receivers did he play with the same wide receivers that Dylan Gabriel did? No. No, he didn't. When Shedeur Sanders was put out there with the proper talent around him, he excelled. Two touchdowns, shined on the big stage. I know it was a preseason, but it was the most watched preseason game in over a decade.

[Rich]

I To me, RG3 is painting the picture that there's shenanigans. And I I don't know, Rich, Two.

[Covino]

Things can be true, and I hate to say that, but that's where this debate often comes in. It could be true that he didn't have all the talent there playing with him. In fact, it is based on what RG3 is saying. But can it also be true that it's not sabotage and that wasn't intentional?

[Rich]

You know what? I'm looking at our YouTube intro thread. A lot of great feedback there and the phones are all hot so we'll take all your feedback.

[Covino]

Excited because I feel like we we explored every angle to this.

[Rich]

So now we turn to you, Fox Sports Radio Nation next. Right here. Sabotage or not Covino and Rich from.

[Covino]

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[Dan]

I'm Dan, he's Ty. Hello and we're the Solid Verbal College Football Podcast.

[Ty]

College football season is here and you know what that means.

[Dan]

Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.

[Covino]

Uh huh.

[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

Whether you're a diehard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else, and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.

[Dan]

We don't just love college football, Tyler, we live it.

[Ty]

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[Podcast Announcer]

We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed, opportunity is not.

[Covino]

It's Black Business Month and Black Tech Green money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting black founders, investors and innovators building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy tech and generational wealth.

[Danny G]

I don't think any person of any.

[Covino]

Gender, race, ethnicity should alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level, to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are the.

[Danny G]

Majority in this situation and they need employment.

[Covino]

So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves. If that makes me a vocal CEO.

[Danny G]

And people consider that rocking the boat, so be it.

[Covino]

To hear this and more on the power of Black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green Money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Spain]

The U.S. open is here. And on my podcast Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players from rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege. You know, plus the stories and events off the court and of course course the Honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open.

[Monsieur]

The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean listen, the whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not, Tennis.

[Sarah Spain]

Is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams, recent wild card bids? Or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get.

[Monsieur]

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[Podcast Announcer]

Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that will challenge your perceptions and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all. Childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more. And found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house.

[Sarah Spain]

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[Podcast Announcer]

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[Dan]

I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Covino]

Should you?

[Rich]

That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Dan]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Rich]

Oh yeah, listen all of y'.

[Covino]

All. It's a sabotage. Is it? It's Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Live from the Fox Sports Radio studios at Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. And you can chime into the live chat. Live chat starting to heat up too. On our YouTube page. Streaming live, you can see the show YouTube.comino and Rich. And if you're on YouTube, just search @covino and Rich FSR. Covino and Rich FSR. So the number is 87799 on Fox. We're going to Play Iron Mike trivia later, talk some Aaron Rodgers. But right now, Shador Sanders, it's still the beginning of what's to come because we're going to be talking about Shador Sanders all season. He's just got that flair about him. He's got the name, he's got the controversy, he has the skills. But is it sabotage or not? Because the story goes that Dylan Gabriel got to play with better talent, therefore he put up big numbers and sure.

[Rich]

Sanders, bigger numbers, right? It's not bigger numbers. It's not like he was lighting it up.

[Covino]

I mean, well, bigger numbers and he got a better opportunity. Shador Sanders got to play with weaker talent, got sacked five times, negative 40 yards. They took him out during the two minute drill where he could potentially show how he shines in that moment. So the storyline is, well, he's not being set up to succeed. Is it sabotage or not? Now Rich and I are saying, look, this is a game of winning and losing. What coach who wants to keep his job, Is he going to put the best players out there? And it's the NFL. Is it racism? Is it because he's too flashy? I think not. So let's make that clear, Rich. I don't think it's sabotage at all. I don't. I do believe also that he was not set up to succeed in this situation. Right. But then again, if Gabriel or whoever else was in that situation, neither were they. It just happened to be him. Why does he get the special treatment? Because he should. Or Sanders, you know, it could have been anybody in that situation. So I do believe both. I believe he was not set up to succeed in this moment, but I don't believe it's sabotage against the guy. But then in the back of my mind, I'm also hearing, yeah, but then why Was he the 144th pick? We all thought he was going to go higher than that.

[Rich]

Yeah, I don't know. You know what it reminds me of? I'll give you the dumbest analogy. There have been people that have sued reality shows. I don't know if you know this. There's one particular case where a woman's suit, I believe, like Idol or the Voice, because they insisted on her singing a song. And then when she sang it, they're like, terrible song. Joyce, you, goodbye. And she's like, whoa, whoa. You guys told me to sing that song. So I get it sometimes.

[Covino]

You know what, Rich, hold on. I'm sorry to interrupt. There's something in life and we've learned the hard way and it's called accountability. It's your career. People could guide you and suggest or even say you have to. But at the beginning, middle and end of the day, it's ultimately your choice. Rich and I have been in this situation where we wish we would have said, nah, we're not going to do that because our name's on the show. But we followed people in charge moving forward. What have we said now? If we don't feel right about it, we're not going to do it. We're going to speak up. Shador Sanders has to also take some accountability and situations.

[Rich]

But also when you're a rookie, fifth round quarterback, like you're not in the. You're not in a position to call your shots. Let's go to the feedback because I do want to hear from everyone. I do think it's interesting, your quick instinct. Ryan, Danny G or Manci, what if some. I know it's not going to happen, but if he got cut, which isn't crazy to say, I know they're going to keep, you know, a big quarterback room. But if he had got cut, is there another of the 31 teams that would have picked him up or is this like, are we overvaluing these middle?

[Covino]

Colin Kaepernick, what did the kid do? Of course someone would pick him up. No, but, but no minimum, he's selling jerseys.

[Danny G]

But Covina, look at the noise surrounding him right now. I think teams would want to avoid that. As far as a backup quarterback goes, you know what?

[Covino]

I look at it differently and that's true. Again, two things could be true. Danny G. Is right. But it also has me tuning into the Browns where I wouldn't care at all to say.

[Rich]

If you say race, then you could say on the other side, a guy like Tim Tebow was noise too. It doesn't need to be, you know, racial. Like there are guys that. It's like, hey, they come with a lot. Right? Like Tim Tebow came with a lot of. Shador Sanders comes with a lot. If the talent doesn't equal, you know, all that it comes with, is it worth it? Is it worth it?

[Danny G]

It would make your team a lot more fun, like off the air. I was asking Ryan about the Raiders situation. They need a backup quarterback right now because Aiden o' Connell broke his wrist in the final preseason game. Ryan, would you rather have Shador Sanders as the backup or like Ryan Tannehill Sanders?

[Rich]

Yeah, every day and twice on Sunday. Yeah, I think the kid's excited.

[Covino]

I think the potentials there too. I mean, we got to factor that in. Like you said, Rich, he's a, he's a rookie quarterback. It's his first year in the NFL. He's going to make some mistakes. He's not going to know how to handle it. He's going to not be in control of his situation all the time. But man, exciting, to say the least. So I see both sides, all sides. How do you feel about it? Fox Sports Radio Nation. We're going through the phones now. 877-99-NOO. Let's go.

[Rich]

CROSSFIRE. And then we'll get to Imansi's update. Start with Mark in Indiana. Mark, your thoughts? Sabotage or not, what are we thinking?

[Caller]

No, no, no, no, no. And again, I hope the kid succeeds. I think he's got an issue because of, let's, let's be honest. If his dad's name was Cliff, nobody would even be talking about this today, you know, if it wasn't Deion. And I think Deion's a great polarizing, you know, you love him or hate him kind of deal. But other than that, nobody would even care to start with. And my other question is, I didn't see the game. So with his third, fourth and fifth string starters, was he playing against the first string defense or was he playing against second and third and fourth?

[Rich]

No. Yeah, exactly. Again, like I said, take any other team in the National Football League when their second, third or backup quarterback is in the game, got any snaps, it's the same thing. And when guys get cut, it happens all the time. No one even blinks an eye. We're talking about this guy getting sabotaged. Andre. Miami. What's up, man?

[Caller]

Hey, my guys, listen, no sabotage. Quick story, real quick story. Jimmie Johnson, when he got to Dallas Cowboys, he was University of Miami coach. He had Steve Walsh as a quarterback, won a national championship in 87, should have won in 88. That wasn't a fumble by Cleveland. Gary. They should have went back to back. Anyhow, he goes to Dallas. When he goes to Dallas, Steve Walsh is his quarterback. But what does he do? He goes and gets Troy Aikman. He was recruiting Troy Aikman in the University of Miami, but Aikman went to Oklahoma instead before he transferred to ucla. And long story short is this, coaches want to win. Jimmy Johnson had a, had a great relationship with Steve Walsh. Should have won two national championships, but he dumped him for Troy Aikman. Why? Because he wants to win.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Feelings don't matter. It's about winning.

[Rich]

Andre's so right. And I Agree. And I can never really get with the narrative that, like, people are in it for anything other than winning, especially a head coach. Kevin Stefanski. Like, you don't think this guy, this guy's projected to be trash at the bottom of the AFC North. Right. Like Cleveland's projected, what, three, four, five wins at tops? You don't think he wants to win and surprise everyone? You think he wants all this? No way. Max in Kentucky. What's up?

[Caller]

Hey, man, preseason is not about winning. It's about evaluating.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Caller]

You know, so if you're going to.

[Covino]

Evaluate, you need to keep your young guy in.

[Caller]

They brought Tyler Hundley in for injuries, so they had no plans on keeping him. There was no reason to put him in.

[Rich]

I. That is one thing I do agree with. I just think that was a weird call because they cut Huntley. Why not see what, what, what pros. Cause they pride what Sanders could do.

[Covino]

A controversy. That's right. A little bit of everything going on here.

[Rich]

JP and okc. What's up, jp?

[Caller]

Hey, guys. The first time. Long time. Appreciate you taking it.

[Rich]

Oh, thank you.

[Caller]

Like, first thing, you got to give credit to Shador, like, not complaining publicly, the way he's handled everything with the media. For the most part, he's done a pretty good job. But not sabotage. I think either earlier today on the Dan Patrick show or J. Mac on the Herd, either one saying that in the third game. I didn't watch it, but he had the same line as Bill and Gabriel had. Gabriel lit it up. He didn't took that 23 yard sack or whatever. It was just brutal. Boils down he's a fifth round pick.

[Rich]

Like that's what it comes down to maybe right now. Yeah.

[Covino]

Who's rooting against the guy? Is anybody rooting against greatness?

[Rich]

I mean, I would love to see.

[Covino]

You must have a personal sort of vendetta if you are. I'm not. I want to see the guy do good.

[Rich]

I think it's people that get rub wrong by the Sanders family. And I don't. I'm a Niners fan, so primetime brought us our last Super Bowl. So I'm, I'm a Dion fan. I like, I like the story. I just think sabotage is ridiculous. Let's go to monsieur for an update. We'll take the rest of your feedback. Phones are hot, so we'll keep it rolling. What's up, mon?

[Monsieur]

Yeah, sabotage seems a little bit. Yeah, crazy. I feel like they took him out of that. And I know that that's weird, but at least he didn't get sacked for six or seven time.

[Rich]

Right.

[Monsieur]

I mean, at least he didn't get hurt. At least something bad didn't happen.

[Covino]

I don't know. I don't know.

[Rich]

I think the reality is we all know that at some point in the 2025 football season, we will see Shador Sanders play.

[Monsieur]

Yeah, I'm with that.

[Rich]

What more could you ask for, right?

[Monsieur]

Yeah. And if you're a Bengals fan, then you're going to see Trey Hendrickson. So this just went down. They reached an agreement on a $14 million raise for this year, so it boosted his salary to 30 million. That is the deal. He is still scheduled to become an unrestricted free agent after this season. So at least Trey Hendrickson will be around for this season. At least for the Bengals. Another holdout has come to an end in Washington.

[Rich]

By the way, they. They needed that because. Oh yeah, poor Joe Burrow. What? In his mind he's like, do I need to put up 40 points a game? Because without him on the defense, it's a meager.

[Monsieur]

Yeah, no, now he needs to put up 40. He needed to put up 50 without him.

[Rich]

Exactly.

[Monsieur]

Now he's going to do it at 40. The Commanders wide receiver Terry McLaurin have also reached an agreement on a three year extension worth 96 million. So that holdout is over. Texans announced that running back Joe Mixon will not be activated from the non football injury list by tomorrow's 4pm Eastern deadline. So for fantasy football, if you have not drafted him, know that he is not going to be eligible to play for the first four games of the regular season due to that ankle injury. Raiders have signed five time Pro bowl wide receiver Amari Cooper to a one year deal. Also, Raiders wide receiver Jacoby Myers has requested a trade after contract against extension talks came to a stall when it comes to the US Open. Guys, Francis TFO on the men's side right now. He is up. This is the first round in tennis. Won his first two sets. Up four games to two right now. But on the women's side, a big upset. American 6 seed Madison Keys, she won the Australian Open this year. Number six seed lost her first round match to world number 82 Renata Sarasota. I don't know. It's the second time in the last 30 years that an American woman seeded top 10 lost in the first round of the US Open. Major upset. Back to you guys.

[Rich]

Thank you, monsieur. And I think we could all agree that Washington Commanders fans everywhere have to be rejoicing because the one little Hang up was like, how are we going to get back to last year's glory? Well, how about you sign Terry McLaurin? And they did. So we'll take all your feedback, we'll talk more NFL Kavino Rich right here on Fox Sports Radio.

[Dan]

I'm Dan, he's Ty.

[Rich]

Hello.

[Dan]

And we're the Solid Verbal College Football podcast.

[Ty]

College football season is here and you know what that means.

[Dan]

Your team is going to break your heart three times probably before Halloween.

[Covino]

Uh huh.

[Ty]

But fear not, the Solid Verbal will be right there with you through every soul crushing loss and impossible comeback.

[Dan]

Join us all season long, all year long, as we ride the roller coaster of this ridiculous sport.

[Ty]

Whether you're a die hard fan or a casual observer, we'll help you make sense of all the chaos and of course celebrate the madness. Tune in for previews, recaps, bits you won't hear anywhere else and all the emotional support you need as a college football fan.

[Dan]

We don't just love college football, Ty, we live it.

[Ty]

Listen to the Solid Verbal College football podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Announcer]

We all know, right? Genius is evenly distributed, opportunity is not.

[Covino]

It's Black Business Month and Black tech green money is tapping in. I'm Will Lucas spotlighting black founders, investors and innovators building the future one idea at a time. Let's talk legacy tech and generational wealth.

[Danny G]

I don't think any person of any.

[Covino]

Gender, race, ethnicity should be alter who they are, especially on an intellectual level or a talent level to make someone else feel comfortable just because they are.

[Danny G]

The majority in this situation and they need employment.

[Covino]

So for me, I'm always going to be honest in saying that we need to be unapologetically ourselves.

[Danny G]

If that makes me a vocal CEO and people consider that rocking the boat, so be it.

[Covino]

To hear this and more on the power of black innovation and ownership, listen to Black Tech Green money from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Sarah Spain]

The U.S. open is here. And on my podcast, Good Game with Sarah Spain, I'm breaking down the players. From rising stars to legends chasing history. The predictions will we see a first time winner and the pressure. Billie Jean King says pressure is a privilege, you know, plus the stories and events off the court. And of course the honey deuces, the signature cocktail of the U.S. open.

[Monsieur]

The U.S. open has gotten to be a very fancy, wonderfully experiential sporting event. I mean listen, their whole aim is to be accessible and inclusive for all tennis fans. Whether you play tennis or not, tennis.

[Sarah Spain]

Is full of compelling stories of late. Have you heard about icon Venus Williams, recent wild card bids, or the young Canadian Victoria Mboko making a name for herself? How about Naomi Osaka getting back to form? To hear this and more, listen to Good Game with Sarah Spain and iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get.

[Monsieur]

Your podcasts presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Podcast Announcer]

Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebony, the podcast where silence is broken and stories are set free. I'm Ebony and every Tuesday I'll be sharing all new anonymous stories that would challenge your perceptions of and give you new insight on the people around you. On Pretty Private, we'll explore the untold experiences of women of color who faced it all childhood trauma, addiction, abuse, incarceration, grief, mental health struggles and more and found the strength to make it to the other side. My dad was shot and killed in his house.

[Sarah Spain]

Yes, he was a drug dealer.

[Podcast Announcer]

Yes, he was a confidential informant. But he wasn't shot on a street corner. He wasn't shot in the middle of a drug deal. He was shot in his house, unarmed. Pretty Private isn't just a podcast, it's your personal guide for turning storylines into lifelines. Every Tuesday, make sure you listen to Pretty Private from the Black Effect Podcast Network. Tune in on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you listen to your favorite show.

[Dan]

Both I'm Jake Hofer and this is back 40, a limited series show on Wire to Hunt, part of Meat Eaters Podcast Network. Each episode I'll be asking eight whitetail hunting pros a focused, thought provoking question about hunting and land management. How do I hunt the best part of the farm with less than ideal access?

[Covino]

Should you?

[Rich]

That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Dan]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Covino]

Hell yes. Tricky Cavino and Rich live from the Fox Sports Radio studio and it's time for our tyrant play of the day. Stick around though, because we're gonna get to your phone calls and wrap it up short. Sanders but the play of day Shohei Ohtani kept hearing a heckler in San Diego and he had something for him. And now here's Cal Riley, fresh from setting the major league record. Tight way to drive deep the left field.

[Rich]

More history. Goodbye baseball.

[Covino]

Cal Raleigh with his historic 49th home run of the year. Cal has hit more home runs than any catcher in the history of the game of baseball.

[Rich]

And he does it right away on.

[Covino]

August 24th on a Sunday afternoon here at T Mobile. Home run number 49 on the year.

[Rich]

Ryan, do you have something against Sh Otani or is it. Do you not like Ohtani?

[Danny G]

He's getting the right one.

[Rich]

All right. Well you know what? Cal Raleigh, he could have the play of the day courtesy of I'm sure Mariners radio network Tire rack has been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Tire rack fast and free backed by free road has protection convenient mobile tire installation. Tire rack.com the way tyranny pulling away.

[Covino]

With the MVP race. Unfortunately he's breaking records left and, and yeah, you did a tire rack.

[Danny G]

You did a great intro. Covino. Take two on show.

[Rich]

No, we don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Danny G]

We got time.

[Rich]

Go ahead. Let's go.

[Covino]

It's worth it again. Shohei Ohtani kept hearing a heckler in San Diego and he had something for him pitch coming.

[Dan]

Ohtani.

[Covino]

It's a rocket to right field. Way back there and way gone.

[Dan]

The Dodgers with their fourth home run.

[Covino]

Of this Sunday afternoon in the 45th of the season for the reigning MVP.

[Dan]

It's now 8 to 2.

[Covino]

I love that how you win over a hater.

[Rich]

I love how he gave him a little bro hug, dapped him up. That was awesome going to a fan. And that Padres fan gracefully gave him like a little like yo, respect like you're the man. That is a fantastic fan player interaction if you haven't seen that clip show. Hey.

[Covino]

And that's what it's all about, dude. You don't hate the guy. You just. You're just rooting against him.

[Rich]

You almost hate how good he is. Right? It's like how a Mets fan feels about Bryce Harper. You can't hate Bryce Harper. You just hate how damn good he is. All right, back to your phone calls. We'll take a few more Shador Sanders sabotage or, or, or not. I mean, I feel like he's a third string quarterback if he's not a Sanders. This is even a conversation. Let's go to Doug in Maryland. Hey, Dougie. Doug.

[Caller]

Hey. Cleveland can keep him. Guys, I'm a Raiders fan. I've been a Raiders fan for over 40 years. I don't want him on the Raiders. Be Jamarcus Russell all over again. And you know, he's a project. He hasn't played against any first team defenses.

[Rich]

Remember that?

[Caller]

So any Raiders fan out there that wants him, want to take a chance on him, they're crazy.

[Covino]

Remember what we said about accountability, Rich? He didn't put himself necessarily in a position to succeed. Our buddy Drew Mack hit us up and reminded us. Word on the streets was he didn't have that many great interviews to begin with, so maybe if he handled that differently, he would be in a different situation to do better.

[Rich]

But also, I think we're. Also, there's a lot of potential talent there. Like, if you were the Raiders, right? Like, with all respect to Doug, who just called, if you're the Raiders and you got Geno Smith and, like, you know, o' Connell's hurt now, but, like, who's your backup now, Danny?

[Danny G]

Cam Miller.

[Rich]

I can't. Miller, like, you tell me you wouldn't wash your door. Sanders, Come on. Of course you would, because there's just potential. It may not pan out, but you tell me the athleticism and just what Chador could bring, you wouldn't want more than Cam Miller. I'm sure you would. It's obvious.

[Covino]

Speaking of backups, did you see that Carson Wentz went to the Vikings over the weekend? His fifth team in the past five years. Danny G. And I were talking about that. Like, so crazy how his career went.

[Rich]

He went from on his way to winning a Super Bowl. Nick Foles takes over, and then since then, poor Carson Wentz. Listen, he's made a ton of money.

[Covino]

And stuff, but just crazy to see, right?

[Rich]

It went off the rails. That is a wild story. Maybe we dive into, but we got more NFL and we're getting close to pen races and baseball, so hang tight.

[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Ty]

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[Dan]

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[Covino]

Should you?

[Rich]

That's what the real question is. Stand without good access is not a good stand.

[Dan]

Listen to Back 40 on iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast.

[Danny G]

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[Dan]

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[Danny G]

I want to tell you about my new fiction podcast. That's One Small Step for Man about Buzz Aldrin, one of the true pioneers of space.

[Rich]

You're a great pilot, Buzz.

[Danny G]

That's the story you think you know. This is the story you don't.

[Covino]

Buzz starring me, John Lithgow, on the.

[Danny G]

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[Dan]

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[Sarah Spain]

Jacobs.

[Dan]

The question is, what is the most entertaining listening experience in podcast land Jeopardy truthers believe in?

[Rich]

I guess they would be conspiracy theorists. That's right. They give you the answers and you still blew it.

[Dan]

The puzzler. Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Danny G]

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[Covino]

Line.

[Danny G]

Let me just say this AI is moving faster than civil rights legislation ever did. Listen to Money and Wealth from the Black Effect podcast network on iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Podcast Announcer]

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