C&R - Apology Owed to Sean Payton?

Summary

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The Dan Patrick Show (Covino & Rich)

Episode: C&R – Apology Owed to Sean Payton?
Date: November 7, 2025

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Episode Overview

This episode, hosted by Covino & Rich (Brian Covino and Rich Eisen), dives deep into the theme of sports “apologies”—specifically regarding NFL coach Sean Payton. The hosts discuss how fans and media often rush to judgment, mock certain coaches, players, or teams, only to be proven wrong with time and patience. Using Sean Payton’s turnaround of the Denver Broncos as a central case study, the episode is filled with witty banter, personal anecdotes, and interactive calls from listeners, all tackling the idea of how prevailing narratives can reverse—and why patience in sports (and life) is underrated.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. A Public Apology to Sean Payton

Main segment begins [06:30]

• Context: Sean Payton was heavily criticized for joining the Broncos, especially after leaving the Saints and the messy initial season with Russell Wilson.
• Reversal: Now the Broncos are 7-2 (possibly 8-1 if not for a late penalty loss), and strong AFC contenders.
• Mocked to Praised: Both Payton and the Broncos-Wilson combo were widely derided as disasters at first, yet patience has paid off.
  • Rich Eisen:

    “Everyone in the sports world, especially NFL fans, should say, Sean Payton, we are so very sorry, Mr. Payton. We were wrong and you were right.” [06:31]

2. How Media and Fans Jump the Gun

Debate & examples [08:16–13:37]

• Cycle of Doubt and Comeback: The hosts compare Payton’s journey with other figures:

  • Dan Campbell (Detroit Lions coach): Initially mocked for his intense style, now a proven success.
  • Jacob deGrom: Laughed at for believing in the Rangers—who then won the World Series.
  • JJ Redick: Criticized as “LeBron’s podcast buddy” before proving his basketball credibility as a coach.
  • Tom Brady: Questioned for moving to Tampa Bay—a move ridiculed, then vindicated with a Super Bowl.

• Impatience Culture:

  • Modern fans, influenced by “Prime Now” culture, expect instant results in sports, entertainment, and even life—a mindset that stifles development and overlooks long-term vision.
  • Brian Covino:

    “We want instant results… That’s really how it is. We want to win championships now. That’s the world we live in. We don’t let things develop.” [13:05]

3. Broader Life Parallels: The Need for Patience

Patience in sports and life [13:40–16:45]

• Old vs. New Generations:

  • Kids can’t tolerate movie credits or commercial breaks, adults don’t wait for delivery or mobile orders.
  • Monty:

    “If it’s not next-day, I’m looking for another option… I might not even need it, [but] I want it.” [13:28]

• Classic Examples:

  • Seinfeld (would have been cancelled in today’s ratings culture).
  • NFL players like Peyton Manning and Troy Aikman—both had rough rookie years but achieved greatness thanks to patient organizations.

• Rich Eisen’s Wisdom:

  “If you can master patience, you can master anything.” [31:36]

4. Interactive Segment: Who Else Deserves an Apology?

Call-ins and banter [33:05–38:55]

• Listener Contributions:

  • Ed Orgeron (LSU football coach): Mocked at hiring, became a championship winner.
  • Dave Roberts (Dodgers): Criticized even while winning, but ultimately accomplished.
  • Seahawks (team as a whole): Written off, but competitive again.
  • Packers’ QB picks: Drafted Rodgers and Love amid mockery, but proved right.
  • Jake Paul/Logan Paul: Initial “gimmick” boxing fights are now massive mainstream events.

• Entertainment Parallels:

  • WWE’s John Cena or Hollywood Hogan: Moves initially panned become legendary.
  • Amazon’s Jeff Bezos and Joe Rogan/UFC: Mocked early, now iconic.
  • Family Guy and Arrested Development: Cancelled too soon, later seen as classics.

• Summary:

  “We're apologizing to the Seahawks, Dan Campbell, Ed Orgeron, Dave Roberts, a bunch of people. Because we are just not patient." (Brian Covino) [32:45]

5. The Real Lesson: Sports and Life Need Time to Develop

Closing insights [38:59–39:49]

• Sports, like anything meaningful, often require time to bear fruit. The group encourages listeners not to “cut the cord” too soon—whether about a coach, a player, or any new venture.
  • Rich Eisen:

    “You'll never know if you cut the cord too soon. So we say, Sean Payton, we're sorry. Sorry, buddy. It looks like you were right.” [25:40–25:45]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Sports Judgment:

  • “Sean Payton, grand opening, grand closing. He’s not even going to last a year. This is a nightmare.” (Rich Eisen) [08:27]
  • “This sounds very similar to a lot of the backtracking everyone did with Dan Campbell… He showed that his gritty ways and tough attitude translated on the field; it just took some time.” (Brian Covino) [10:11]

• On Culture of Immediacy:

  • “We lost player development. We lost artist development. You know how many artists are dropped from labels because they don’t come out with hits when people want them?... Seinfeld would never have happened.” (Rich Eisen) [14:23–14:46]
  • “If mobile order’s down, you pick another store. If Amazon says it won’t get there by tomorrow, you pack... Everyone needs a deep breath, man.” (Rich Eisen) [31:54–32:04]

• On Redemption:

  • “This Peyton thing, the Sean Payton thing, is a modern-day version of ‘he saw something that no one else saw.’” (Brian Covino) [18:23]

• On Listener’s Point:

  • “How about Ed Orgeron? Go Tigers... Everybody thinks it’s a joke, and then, you know, three years later, Orgeron’s walking away with the national championship.” (Caller) [33:11]

• Brian Covino’s Closing Wisdom:

  • “So the lesson here, too, it’s not just in football, it’s in life. You gotta let things simmer and breathe a little bit. And let things develop before you make a full assessment.” [23:33]

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Key Timestamps & Segments

• [06:30] – Public apology setup for Sean Payton
• [08:16–13:37] – Mocked-to-vindicated sports stories: Payton, Campbell, deGrom, Redick, Brady
• [13:40–16:45] – Patience in the modern, on-demand culture
• [14:46] – Seinfeld and sports patience parallel
• [31:36] — Eisen’s maxim: patience is mastery
• [33:05–38:55] – Callers share THEIR “apology” nominees: Orgeron, Roberts, Seahawks, etc.
• [25:40–25:45] – Final apology to Payton and takeaways

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Tone & Style

The episode maintains C&R’s signature mix of humor and sports-nerd banter (“horsey teams,” “Foosball is the devil,” etc.), frequent self-referential jokes, and real-life analogies. The hosts engage the audience both directly and vicariously—sharing how everyone (themselves included) sometimes gets it wrong.

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Conclusion

This episode encourages fans to step back from snap judgments and appreciate the value of letting both people and programs develop over time. Whether it’s a coach, player, musician, or business innovator, the message is clear: sometimes those who are mocked most fiercely are the ones who surprise us all.

Sean Payton, and many others, are living proof: Sometimes the patient play is the winning one.

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For more interactive debates, sports apologies, or to join in live:

Listen daily on Fox Sports Radio or find Covino & Rich (FSR) on YouTube.

Transcript

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[Brian Covino]

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[Rich Eisen]

I want to lead the show with someone we owe a huge apology to.

[Brian Covino]

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[Rich Eisen]

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[Rich Eisen]

All right, who do we owe a big apology to? Let's get into it. Let's get this show going. Everyone in the sports world, especially NFL fans, should say, sean Payton, we are so very sorry, Mr. Peyton. We were wrong and you were right. I thought about this on the drive in today. We got the Broncos vs Danny G's Raiders tonight. And as Camino said, who's in control of the afc? The horsey teams.

[Brian Covino]

The horsey teams, man.

[Rich Eisen]

Colts and Broncos.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah. You never realized that Peyton Manning played for the horsey teams. He.

[Rich Eisen]

He's a horsey type of guy.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

And he loves Sex in the City. Sarah Jessica Parker.

[Caller/Listener]

Right.

[Brian Covino]

Yes.

[Rich Eisen]

And as we stand today, the horsey teams. Colts are 7 and 2, Broncos are 7 and 2. And it was a few years ago when Sean Payton took over for Nathaniel. I can't quite hack it for the Denver Broncos.

[Brian Covino]

And if you remember, I call him Nathaniel. That's my Buddy Hackett.

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[Brian Covino]

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[Rich Eisen]

That's a good one, too. I remember.

[Brian Covino]

That's for the old guys.

[Rich Eisen]

No, good one, bro. Buddy Hackett jokes, that's for the old.

[Brian Covino]

Guys and Sam, because Sam's an old soul. Yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

I love Buddy Hackett.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

She. So he leaves the Saints after an NFC championship run, and everyone's saying, man, Sean Payton's walking away from that. I guess it's over. Takes a year off, if we remember correctly, and then he reemerges as the guy that's going to take the Broncos to where Mike Shanahan took him to where, you know, other coaches in the past couldn't really. Right. Like we're going to try to get back to those. Those golden years.

[Brian Covino]

Your stock was low at the time, so, you know, in our defense, it looked like a weak move. Like, come on, man, you're trying to polish a turd here. Don't sell me on this. You see a bright future in Denver sort of thing. That's how it felt.

[Rich Eisen]

I mean, I. When we were kids, like, Dan Reeves couldn't get the. The job done completely. Shanahan did. And then the Broncos are looking for that, that. That next, like, generation. And very quickly, the combination of Sean Payton and Russell Wilson were mocked on social media, were mocked in the sports media. Within the first half of the first season, there were headlines that were saying, sean Payton, grand opening grade closing. He's not even going to last a year. This is a nightmare.

[Brian Covino]

I don't remember the whole Russell Wilson circus that went along with it.

[Rich Eisen]

They couldn't really see eye. Eye on things. I'm reading some headlines now. Sean Payton left to go suck in Denver. Peyton wanted to leave after the NFC Championship game for this. He's not even going to last six weeks. Fans were so down on Sean Payton and that Russell Wilson combo. Remember Russell Wilson? Sean Payton came in and immediately was like, yeah, if this guy has his own office, that doesn't fly with me. Am I remembering correctly?

[Brian Covino]

No. Yeah, there was a lot of drama.

[Rich Eisen]

And then, you know, up until a couple of weeks ago, people think Sean Payton took another shot at Russ. So it wasn't a match made in heaven. People thought, oh, my goodness, could they hit the reset button like Cavino when he was losing RBI baseball? Could you just hit the reset?

[Brian Covino]

Never lost a game of RBI baseball. Always hit the reset with the big toe. That was the move. Patented move. Big toe, accidentally always hit the reset button.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah, that's. Never lost.

[Brian Covino]

Restart. Sorry. Yep. Sorry, guys. Undefeated.

[Rich Eisen]

Never lost a double dribble either.

[Brian Covino]

Never. I don't think I ever lost a game of Nintendo. Hit that reset button.

[Rich Eisen]

Ice hockey?

[Caller/Listener]

No way.

[Brian Covino]

Never.

[Rich Eisen]

Two medium guys, one skinny, one fat.

[Brian Covino]

Never lost.

[Rich Eisen]

So I just think we all owe Sean Payton an apology.

[Brian Covino]

There are a few people we could add to the list.

[Rich Eisen]

Well, you know why?

[Brian Covino]

Because, you know, this sounds very similar to a lot of the backtracking everyone did with Dan Campbell because he talked the big game about his Lions. Everyone's like, yeah, okay, buddy.

[Rich Eisen]

Biting people.

[Brian Covino]

But then he showed that his gritty ways and his tough sort of attitude translated on the field. It just took some time. But didn't everyone get a nice little laugh and chuckle at his demeanor at the press conferences? Okay, Dan, look at him.

[Rich Eisen]

He's talking about biting kneecaps. Seriously.

[Brian Covino]

And then it showed. In the next few years, I got another one for you, Duvall.

[Rich Eisen]

And all of a sudden, the Jags look better than they did in a few years. Dude, that's a good one.

[Brian Covino]

That's a good one. Like, yeah, we all laughed at their expense. But looking back in retrospect, they were onto something. Jacob deGrom also comes to mind, too, because he left your Mets. And his quote was, yeah, I really believe in what the Texas Rangers are doing. And we laughed. Everybody, even here on the show. When we were doing Sundays, we were doing Sundays here on FOX Sports Radio. We're like, yeah, you believe what the Rangers are doing?

[Rich Eisen]

Let's go to the Rangers for the winning culture. They win the World Series the next year.

[Brian Covino]

So, yeah, he was onto something. He was right. And we said, hey, we're sorry. He was right about that. We're going to add Sean Payton to this list because even if they don't win at all, they're playoff bound. And I'd say they're a top three team in the NFL right now. I think that's debatable. But it's fair to say they're seven.

[Rich Eisen]

And two and they should be eight and one. If you remember, one of their losses was against the other horsey team.

[Brian Covino]

Exactly.

[Rich Eisen]

Remember the Colts, there was a penalty on the. On the missed field goal, so they got a second shot at it, and then they got the field goal. So they should be eight and. And one. Again, a top AFC contender. And just two years ago, the headlines were that Sean Payton's a disaster, Denver made a mistake. What are they doing? People are laughing and mocking. And it just lends itself to two thoughts I want to bring up here. Number one, we want to hit you guys to hit us up. Who else deserves a sports apology?

[Brian Covino]

We're sorry.

[Rich Eisen]

Who else deserves a little we're sorry? Not sure what happened there. And the other layer is this just goes along with the narrative Danny that we've talked about for years on our show, Right? People's lack of patience. And I get it. I ordered my son a Mookie Betts jersey. Dad, when does it get here? Oh, buddy, it was like a Wednesday. I said, I'll be here Friday.

[Brian Covino]

Friday.

[Rich Eisen]

I'm like, yeah, that's like, in 48 hours. Do you want it to show up like, now?

[Brian Covino]

This goes back to the Ronnie, very famous Ronny Chang bit that we quote often here on the show. Ronny Chang says we live in a prime now World where we want it now, prime now. We want to order, click the button, and then hear our doorbell ring and have it on our doorstep immediately. We lost patience, prime now. I don't want it tomorrow.

[Rich Eisen]

I don't want it Friday.

[Brian Covino]

I want it now. That's really how it is. We want instant results.

[Rich Eisen]

I want everyone in this room to admit this. Monsi, I'm talking to you as well. Have you ever clicked on something you're buying on Amazon and if it's not next day, you're like, what?

[Brian Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Caller/Listener]

You go with a different brand that'll be there. Not going to be here.

[Rich Eisen]

It won't be on my doorstep within 12 hours.

[Monty]

I need it to be like, two days. Two days is my max.

[Rich Eisen]

Maximum.

[Monty]

Yeah, max. And if not, like Danny G said, I'm looking for another option.

[Rich Eisen]

You might not even need it.

[Monty]

I know, but I want it.

[Rich Eisen]

But I want.

[Monty]

I want it in my possession, so I have to worry about it.

[Brian Covino]

It's the culture we live in. And you know what? Here's another example.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah.

[Brian Covino]

It affects not only us as adults, which is crazy. Kids grew up this way. So if you watch, like, an old movie with kids, you know how old cartoons and old movies start with the credits.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah.

[Brian Covino]

Kids are like, what is this trash? Give me the action.

[Rich Eisen]

Now.

[Brian Covino]

They don't want to see and sit through credits. They want the movie to start right then and there. You know, credits.

[Caller/Listener]

What's even worse is KOA can't wait from one episode to the next. You know, like on Netflix, where the little box lights up and it says next episode in 20 seconds out. Yeah.

[Brian Covino]

He says, more, more, more. Rich says that his kids, like, would cry when commerc would come on.

[Rich Eisen]

Sometimes I'm like, kids, these are commercials.

[Brian Covino]

Nah. Now we want. Yeah, we want everything. Now we want results. Now we want to win championships. Now. That's the world we live in. We don't let things develop. We lost player development. We lost artist development. You know how many artists are dropped from labels because they don't come out with hits when people want them? Hey, you guys are the most talented band ever. Now, we dropped you because you didn't develop in three months.

[Rich Eisen]

Let me tell you, it's. It's something we've talked about quite a bit. But I always, like, readdressing this because you said it right. There's historical, phenomenal, great TV shows, athletes, things that never would have been given time to breathe. Had we went by this mindset, Seinfeld would never have happened. One of the greatest shows of all time. Seinfeld's ratings would have made that show be canceled in today's world. Peyton Manning historically had that terrible first rookie season where maybe in today's culture, they're like, yeah, he's not the guy we might need to move on.

[Brian Covino]

Troy Aikman absolutely stunk. These are all great examples of things that took a little time and patience was a part of our life, so we let them develop and reap the benefits of that, bro.

[Rich Eisen]

But don't tell me in today's world.

[Brian Covino]

There is none of that.

[Rich Eisen]

Don't tell me that you or I are any better, though, because I'll give.

[Brian Covino]

You an example where I'm not. It's not. But it's not our fault. It's the culture we live in.

[Rich Eisen]

I'm guilty. I. If I can't order food with mobile pickup, my mindset is like, whoa, whoa. Wait in line at the restaurant. He had no thanks.

[Monty]

Like, with Starbucks, if, like, if it's not working or it doesn't take mobile orders, I'm like, I can't.

[Rich Eisen]

We're not taking mobile orders. I'm like, well, then I'm not going, right? I'm the same way. My God. By the way, have you got your barista?

[Monty]

Barista?

[Rich Eisen]

No. You're barista?

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[Rich Eisen]

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[Monty]

Okay?

[Rich Eisen]

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[Monty]

Dying about that life.

[Rich Eisen]

There is a Starbucks collector's cup that's in the shape of a bear with a little knit cap on. And they're saying this thing's gonna be like five hundo online. Like, people are selling them out everywhere.

[Brian Covino]

So I'm here for the bearista.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah. So there's the bearista.

[Monty]

Well, if you get one and can make your money back that you just gave Covino.

[Rich Eisen]

So, yeah, that's my new.

[Brian Covino]

You know what? I'm going to use my thousand dollars and buy a few of them right now.

[Rich Eisen]

Kavino's going to hoard berries like you did tickle me almost in the 2000s.

[Brian Covino]

That's right. I'm going to have them already online. So is there anyone else we owe an apology to a la Sean Payton style? Because in retrospect, he was onto something and he was right. We were wrong. Not we. The show we. Everybody.

[Rich Eisen]

I got one.

[Brian Covino]

Nobody saw that.

[Rich Eisen]

Everybody. Interviewer, late night and news shows that. Do you ever see these Old interviews where people mock Bezos. They're like, Amazon, you sell books and you're in debt. How's this gonna work? And he's like, well, it's a business plan. And he was like, mocked.

[Brian Covino]

Well, it's funny you say that. I'll tie it back to sports. There's a very famous clip of Conan o', Brien, who I love, by the way. I think Conan's the best. He's sitting there talking to Joe Rogan, and Joe Rogan's talking about UFC and how he believes in it. And Conan sort of like chuckling at him like, yeah, you really think it's gonna take off, huh?

[Rich Eisen]

The fight game?

[Brian Covino]

Yeah. Really? It seems pretty barbaric. I don't see that happening.

[Rich Eisen]

I don't know. What do you think Andy?

[Brian Covino]

And Joe Rogan's like, no, this is the next big thing. Turns out he was right.

[Rich Eisen]

Well, if you want to do late night, then we have to remember when Michael Jordan was on the Late show with David Letterman and Letterman held up the first OG Air Jordan, and he's like, this is hideous. Who's gonna buy this? And Michael Jordan chuckled. They all had a good laugh.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah. Said he didn't like the color.

[Brian Covino]

I was gon. He mentioned the colors and. Because, you know, thinking back, sneakers were boring looking. They were. And mostly track sneakers and old school, like Converse and things like that. That red and white.

[Caller/Listener]

What are these clown shoes?

[Brian Covino]

Yeah, it looked weird, but to a kid back then, it looked amazing. So he was wrong. Jordan was right. This Peyton thing, the Sean Payton thing, is a modern day version of he saw something that no one else saw. You could say he got lucky. You could say, you know, Bo Nix helped this narrative. But either way, it turned out that we owe him an apology because they're playing great football. And who are we adding to the list? And the other part of the story, guys, is the patience that's involved in this. Yeah, you know, we don't let players develop. We don't let things develop anymore. It's just not the world we live in. We expect immediate results.

[Rich Eisen]

I mean, it all. It doesn't always work. I mean, we've been trying to trust the process in Philadelphia for what, a decade now? But, but, but let's think of those examples of a coaching decision, a personnel decision, something where at first it was mocked or made fun of. And all of a sudden you fast forward and you're like, no, no, that actually was brilliant.

[Caller/Listener]

JJ Redick, look no further. Oh, that's LeBron's podcast boy. What a joke. There were actual monologues on our network calling it the biggest joke in sports history.

[Rich Eisen]

No one really respected coach. Lakers are hot. LeBron's not even playing.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah, I don't think anyone ever undermined his basketball IQ, but they were clowning him on his LeBron association. And. And that he wasn't the guy. And. And now they're great. They're playing great.

[Caller/Listener]

Yeah, it's just a homie hookup.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah, homie hookup. Exactly. Yeah. I'd say we're still early on that one because they still got to prove it. But he seems to be legit.

[Rich Eisen]

I mean, I don't think anyone doubted how great Shohei Ohtani was, but there were people that thought, well, that's way too much money. And the fact that the Dodgers sort of have that money back in a year. In a year or so. In a year.

[Brian Covino]

No, I'd say that anyone that doubted.

[Rich Eisen]

Like, man, how could you pay that type of money? They deferred it and they already got it back. So, like, that was a ridiculously good decision.

[Brian Covino]

You know who we might someday own apology. I'm just thinking of people that got a lot of criticism. And, you know, we're still on the fence about, you know, when Tom Brady got in the booth, he garnered tons of criticism, especially because of all, he pushed Olson out. We're comparing him to Olson. We don't know how good he's going to get, you know, a few years from now, and we're going to look back and say, hey, remember how everyone was so hard on Tom Brady? The dude was just starting out. You know, we don't give people time to develop. I think Jeter gets some of that criticism now, too. We just saw it in the World Series, in the post games. It's like, he's not a broadcaster. In a few years, he's probably going to be a lot better. And we're going to say, we're kind.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Of hard on the guy.

[Brian Covino]

It was his first few years doing this.

[Rich Eisen]

Maybe he could order a personality on Amazon.

[Brian Covino]

I think Tom Brady's a good one. I think Tom Brady's so competitive that a few years from now, we're going to look back and be like, yeah, we were hard on him. I mean, he had never done it before. He's great now.

[Caller/Listener]

How about Nico Harrison? He traded away a fat.

[Brian Covino]

Oh, that's a good one. That's a real good one.

[Caller/Listener]

Wait a second.

[Rich Eisen]

Oh, I mean, but we don't know that story yet, right?

[Brian Covino]

Like, oh, well, they're playing yeah, they're playing kind of back good right now, but they got flagged. They got some potential, but they're not scoring good. They're not scoring a lot.

[Caller/Listener]

And I was going to say, I mean, obviously Luka trimmed down and got in shape and he looks like an MVP candidate at this point.

[Brian Covino]

What's the stat that came out today that Luka has more points per game than Davis and flag combined. Combined.

[Rich Eisen]

Oh, you know what, speaking of Tom Brady, you missed the more obvious one. I'm not saying you did.

[Brian Covino]

No, no, no, go ahead.

[Rich Eisen]

Our buddy Mouser hit us up. Listening in Kentucky. What's up, bud?

[Brian Covino]

Hey, buddy.

[Rich Eisen]

He said tom Brady going to the Bucks was mocked as like, that's where you're going.

[Caller/Listener]

That's a good one.

[Brian Covino]

For real.

[Rich Eisen]

You wait, you leave. You leave Belichick and your dynasty to play for the Buccaneers.

[Brian Covino]

Because remember, it was like, that felt really weird at the time.

[Rich Eisen]

There were other landing spots that felt at better. But looking now you're like, well, he did have great personnel and everything. But you know what? Tom Brady going to the Bucks was mocked. Guy wins a Super Bowl. These are, these are good examples. I love these guys. 87799 on Fox. We'll take the rest of your feedback next. Put your thinking cap on, which is what? A fedora? What's your thinking cap? An old Abe Lincoln top hat. Put on your thinking cap and let us know. Travis Matthew, what athlete, what musician, what notable figure who was mocked? And we sort of owe an apology like, yo, we were way wrong. And hey, sorry, we didn't see it because going into tonight's game, Danny, no offense, they should beat your Raiders, which would then leave them 8 and 2 after 10 games and a legit Super bowl contender. Sean Payton, Bo Nicks, a team that two years ago people were saying was a laughing stock because Sean Payton had no clue he's not going to last the season. And now you could argue this, this is the team to beat in the afc.

[Caller/Listener]

Now, I'll just give you a little bit of caution, though, and I'm not being too optimistic because the Raiders did get blown out by the Chiefs. But this is a division in division game. These two are rivals. The last 10 times the Raiders and Broncos matched up, The Raiders are 8 and 2 against the Broncos.

[Brian Covino]

Damn.

[Caller/Listener]

And a lot of those were losing Raiders season. So these two teams always play each other really tough.

[Brian Covino]

So the lesson here, too, it's not just in football, it's in life. You got to let things simmer and breathe a little bit. And let things develop before you make a full assessment. As you know, this sucks, you know.

[Caller/Listener]

Are you saying you'd give Pete Carroll another year in Vegas? Because he's just. He's trying to implement his.

[Brian Covino]

Based on that.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah.

[Brian Covino]

Like, it takes a minute for things to click in, right? It's like. I'll give you an example. Like, my dad, he goes on these kicks of, like, vitamins he takes or whatever, a new sort of regiment that he's on. I'd be like, hey, dad, how you feeling? Any better?

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah.

[Brian Covino]

It didn't work. Yeah. Hey, dad, you taking those beet vitamins? Those beets? Yeah. Took them for a week. 8. They suck. I threw it away. It wasn't doing nothing. And I'm like, let it, like, run into your system. Maybe take it, like, for two weeks or so, maybe even a month. See how you feel, bro, you ain't doing nothing.

[Rich Eisen]

That's a great one. Health and fitness. How many times. How many times has someone expected immediate results for, like.

[Brian Covino]

Immediate results?

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah, I've been going to CrossFit or orange theory for a week.

[Brian Covino]

What's what?

[Rich Eisen]

I'm not seeing results.

[Brian Covino]

It takes some.

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, my FM radio station I programmed back in the day, we would have sponsors come aboard, and if they didn't get immediate results in one day of airing commercials, they flipped out. And I remember our general sales manager always used to tell them, give them three weeks. Please give the listeners three weeks to hear about your company.

[Rich Eisen]

But not only that.

[Brian Covino]

I got it, guys. Rome wasn't built in a day. You like that one?

[Rich Eisen]

Did you come up with that?

[Brian Covino]

Yeah. You like that one? Wow. Write it down.

[Rich Eisen]

It's a good one.

[Brian Covino]

Write it down. Remember it.

[Rich Eisen]

But, Danny, the radio one's a great example, because when a new morning show, let's say, takes over or they flip a format, they always say, give it a year or so. You can't. You gotta give it. They always say two years is the magic number. Like, give a show or something two years. Because you can't expect something to come in. A coach, a format change, a new show, a character.

[Brian Covino]

Like, wasn't Arrested Development another example of a show they thought was a failure.

[Rich Eisen]

Dude, Family Guy. They pulled the plug on Family Guy.

[Brian Covino]

You know, again, when you give things a chance to grow and develop, you know, you get the results that you were hoping for. Not all the time, but you'll never know if you cut the cord too soon.

[Rich Eisen]

So we say, Sean Payton, we're sorry.

[Brian Covino]

Sorry, buddy. It looks like you were right.

[Rich Eisen]

Sorry, Sorry. Your examples next here on Covino and Rich, FOX Sports Radio Thursday. Let's go.

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[Rich Eisen]

From cleaning canary cages to this night here in New York.

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[Rich Eisen]

She said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night.

[Caller/Listener]

Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying, suicides that don't make sense. Strange accidents and brutal murders in what seems to be a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people.

[Monty]

There are people out there that absolutely know what happened.

[Caller/Listener]

Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas Teen murders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Hari Kondabolu]

On the podcast Health stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.

[Rich Eisen]

Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Wally, a double board certified physician.

[Hari Kondabolu]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.

[Rich Eisen]

Talking about health in a different way.

[Hari Kondabolu]

It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.

[Rich Eisen]

What our health says about us and the way we're living.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Like our episode where we look at.

[Rich Eisen]

Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Hari Kondabolu]

How preventable is type 2?

[Rich Eisen]

Extremely. Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like, your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible, but like, you don't even know.

[Rich Eisen]

You don't know, you don't know. It's going to be a fun ride.

[Hari Kondabolu]

So tune in, listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Eisen]

There he is. Mr. Vane, Steve Kavina.

[Brian Covino]

Leave my vein out of this. I mean, what's up, Sam? What up, Rich? What up, Danny G?

[Rich Eisen]

What's up, Matt Khalil? Hi, Kavino and Rich on FSR with.

[Brian Covino]

Monte Bolanios with your updates in about nine minutes. And remember, every Thursday, Old School win 50 hits, we throw it back and reminisce with you. So let's get involved at 877-99-FOX. Right now, we're just on our apology campaign. We're saying to Sean Payton, we're sorry.

[Caller/Listener]

Hey.

[Brian Covino]

And when I say we, I don't mean our show in particular. We're saying we the public, because everyone thought this dude was full of it. Like, yeah, you're gonna turn the Broncos around and you're gonna make them playoff contenders. At the time, it was looking, it was the word, glum, glim, glim, glub. It was looking, it was not Looking good. How about that? With all the Russell Wilson stuff? And again, they turned it around. What is it?

[Caller/Listener]

Glib.

[Brian Covino]

Isn't that what Tom Cruise said tonight?

[Rich Eisen]

He called Matt Lauer glib. Glib. What is that?

[Brian Covino]

It was looking glib.

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Grim.

[Rich Eisen]

I don't think it was grim.

[Brian Covino]

I think, yeah, grim. Dim. Grim. It was gloomy, dim. Some G word I don't know. But it turns out he was right because they're good and there's lots of examples. But the other side part of the story is patience.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah. Someone once told me he or she who can master patience can master anything.

[Brian Covino]

There you go.

[Rich Eisen]

He or she. Did you hear that?

[Brian Covino]

Just little patience.

[Rich Eisen]

If you can master patience, you can master anything.

[Brian Covino]

Sometimes things take time to develop, but in today's world, we don't have the patience to allow that to happen. We don't have the time. We want results right now. If mobile orders, the world of sports.

[Rich Eisen]

If mobile order's down, you pick another store. If Amazon says it won't get there by tomorrow, you pack. But what will get here tomorrow? Yo, everyone needs a deep breath, man.

[Brian Covino]

What did the Traveling Wilbury say on a throwback Thursday? It's going to take time. A whole lot of precious time. It's going to take patience.

[Caller/Listener]

In our defense, Rich, a couple of our favorite teams. We've been patient for, what, 35 years?

[Brian Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

People say, rich, you're a Mets fan. I said, I'm very patient.

[Brian Covino]

It's a sign of good character.

[Rich Eisen]

Very patient. My kid said, dad, the Dodgers won. When was the last time the Mets won? I'm like, when I was your age. Dad's very patient. It's going to really feel good when it happens. All right, let's go to your calls. Who deserves an apology a la Sean Payton? Because we are just not patient. You said, dan Campbell's a great example.

[Brian Covino]

We make fun of Jacob Grom.

[Rich Eisen]

I said, yeah, we make fun of certain people and they get the last laugh.

[Brian Covino]

But it's the truth, though, looking back, you did think Dan Campbell was a clown. You did. You're like, yeah, whatever, dude. You're just another rah rah guy thinking you're going to bring the Lions to glory. And, hey, did he turned it around. They bought into his mindset and mentality. So sorry, Cole.

[Rich Eisen]

Florida. What's up, bud? Hey, what's going on, guys? Hey, buddy.

[Caller/Listener]

Hi, man.

[Rich Eisen]

I appreciate taking my call. Love the show.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

How about Ed Orgeron? Go Tigers, 2016 gets hired, everybody thinks it's a joke, man. This guy's a Stupid lineman line coach coordinator Tom Herman was the hot guy at the time. I think he from Houston to Texas and that was there. Everybody was praising that move. And then, you know, three years later, or John's, you know, walking away with the national championship and won maybe one of the greatest college teams of all time and one of the greatest coach voices of all time. One of the best voices in sports of all time. All right, all right, all right. Let's go to Joe in West Virginia. What up, Joe?

[Brian Covino]

Hey, Joe.

[Rich Eisen]

Hey, guys. Hey, guys.

[Brian Covino]

You stole mine there.

[Rich Eisen]

With Dan Campbell, I think he's clearly.

[Hari Kondabolu]

The most obvious choice, but what he.

[Rich Eisen]

Really did was change the culture. And that's exactly what Detroit needed. They needed to coach, but they needed a dramatic culture change. Yeah. And it worked. At the time, we just thought, like you said, oh, just know the guy that's going to come in here and fail. That's how you feel about every quarterback that goes to Cleveland, right? Eventually there will be someone. Yeah, that does it. We got hit up. I'm looking at our feedback at Covino and Rich. I'm sure it's sports entertainment, but when they make some of these moves, like John Cena turns heel or remember Hollywood Hogan, you don't think there were people that are like, how stupid. This is never gonna work. And it ends up being a really good gimmick. Generates money, big pay per views. Like, there are times where. Oh, you know what? Speaking of which, when Logan Paul and Jake Paul first started boxing, I remember my wife, who I guess followed them on TikTok or Twitter @ the time, or Instagram. My wife's like, yeah, this KSC guy is fake fighting Jake Paul or Logan Paul at the time.

[Brian Covino]

KSI.

[Rich Eisen]

KSI.

[Brian Covino]

He wasn't fighting the barstool guy. He was fighting KSI. Yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

Not kfc.

[Brian Covino]

No. You know what? In fact, I owe Rich an apology because I remember Rich. Here I am screaming out all these fights all the time, right? And Rich doesn't give a diddly squat about Virgil Ortiz fighting this weekend. Correct. And then he came to me one day and goes, I'm watching this Logan Paul KSI fight. I ordered it on YouTube.

[Rich Eisen]

It was like 10 bucks.

[Brian Covino]

And I was like, what a dork. All the fights I tell you about. And you're worried about this stupid fight now? Like, these are big events.

[Rich Eisen]

I said, you were just early on. Yeah, I said. I said to my wife, I go, who's fighting? And she told me, two influencers. It's like it was $9 on YouTube live. And she Showed me the little hype, backstory about they didn't like each other. We watched, and I was like, yeah, this is sort of entertaining. And Covino mocked me, and it changed to fight. And now what do we do? We look forward to what? Like, the guy ended up fighting his brother ended up fighting Mike Tyson last year for the biggest Netflix live audience ever.

[Brian Covino]

Exactly. So you were wrong. And again, patience, patience, patience. We got to practice it. Things take time. What's up, Danny J?

[Caller/Listener]

Some of us are still on a World Series high. Would you put Dave Roberts into this topic? Because during the season, he made such horrible moves that, you know, some of my fellow Dodger fans were like, he needs to be fired at the end of the season.

[Brian Covino]

Dave Roberts is a. I was thinking about him.

[Rich Eisen]

He's one World Series playing and coaching. The fact that he gets hate boggles my mind.

[Brian Covino]

Criticism he got this season, I mean, for a guy.

[Rich Eisen]

Listen, I get it. Everyone questions their coaches and managers, decisions, whatever team you root for, everyone thinks their defense stinks.

[Caller/Listener]

And.

[Rich Eisen]

And everyone thinks their clothes are stinks. In baseball.

[Brian Covino]

That's baseball.

[Rich Eisen]

We have the same complaints. No matter who you are. Dave Roberts is accomplished. So I find it hilarious when there's so much criticism of Dave Roberts. Seems like a really likable guy to me.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah, no, he is the best.

[Monty]

He is the best. I'm just telling, like, with tour guests and stuff. He is the best. And you would know that is not an act.

[Rich Eisen]

You work for the Dodgers.

[Brian Covino]

Yep.

[Caller/Listener]

And Monty, some of the moves he made in the World Series, even his haters were like, oh, okay.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah.

[Monty]

I hate the hate he gets because I think it's. He's not the person to blame.

[Brian Covino]

That's really at the neji. Like, who. Shut up. The haters. That's what we're giving credit to right now. And that's why we're. Apologies, apologizing on behalf.

[Monty]

I would like to apologize to the Seahawks. I did not think that they were going to be as good as they are.

[Rich Eisen]

You know, it's a good one because when I did my preseason, like everyone else did, little take. I took a little look, see at the standings, I'm like, all right. The Rams are. I'm a Niners fan, as people know. I was like, ah, the Rams in Stafford, they got some juice. If they're healthy, that'll be the competition. I remember thinking, like, Seahawks and Cardinals will stink. Right? Yeah.

[Monty]

I just didn't think they were going to be this good.

[Rich Eisen]

And I think. Because I think we think we look at The Seahawks still and think they got the leftovers of the Legion of Boom and Pete Carroll and all that stuff. Meanwhile, they've rebuilt the whole good squad.

[Brian Covino]

They feel like Sam Darnold had some of that jet stank on him still. And you know what he had in Minnesota where you're like, oh, that might be a fluke, but.

[Monty]

Exactly.

[Brian Covino]

Now we're seeing other ones.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah. He was with the quarterback whisperer in Minnesota. So you thought, oh yeah. All right, let's get one more with Scotty right here and then we'll go to Monty for an update. What's up, Scotty? I'm going to take a little different approach here. Yep. I'm going to say the whole packers organization, every time it comes to drafting a quarterback, that's a great one because they've been. When they drafted Rodgers, it was like, how do you do that to Favre? When they drafted Love, look what they're doing to Aaron Rodgers. Every step of the way. They have done the right thing and have developed quarterbacks, but yet, yet both times it's happened, it's been a mocked move.

[Brian Covino]

Well, I'll say it's interesting. You're right about that. I'm on the fence about apologizing to Aaron Rodgers because I thought he was done last year. I didn't think he had any chance of being in any conversation this year. So you guys, as a show though.

[Caller/Listener]

The last few years you're like, I feel like Rogers is going to break back out this season. Maybe it's more so Rich.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah, Rich did. I was like, yeah, right. I thought he was done.

[Rich Eisen]

So Ayahuasca helped.

[Brian Covino]

He was absolutely right. He still had some game left.

[Rich Eisen]

Right. You don't know. He thinks in ways you our brains haven't even thought of.

[Brian Covino]

That is true.

[Rich Eisen]

All right, let's go to Mutzi for an update. What's up, Matz?

[Monty]

What's up guys? Starting with the sad news of the NFL today.

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[Monty]

Dallas Cowboys defensive end Marshawn Needleand died Thursday morning from an apparent self inflicted gunshot after a police chase on Wednesday night. These details are according to law enforcement. He was 24. He was a second round pick in 2020. And during his last game against the Cardinals primetime Monday Night Football, he recovered a blocked punt in the end zone for, for his first career touchdown.

[Rich Eisen]

It's just when I saw that and I connected the dots on that, I'm like, this guy's living the like the moment of his professional career and within a week having some personal drama. Mental health's A hell of a thing.

[Monty]

It really is.

[Rich Eisen]

Yes. You know, take it to somebody and just. But to this, to take your own life within a week of having such a glorious moment. It's really terrible.

[Monty]

It's awful. It awful. And there's just really no way to transition out of this. But week 10 of the NFL does kick off later today and Dallas does have a buy for week 10, by the way, but it's going to be the Raiders and The Broncos. At 8:15 Eastern Time. Colts cornerback Sauce Gardner has cleared the league's concussion protocol. He's expected to play in Week 10 against the Falcons. Some of the notable names of players who resume practice today Bills running back James Cook, Panthers running back Rico Dowdle, Lions right tackle Penne Sewell, and Colts wide receiver Michael Pittman Jr. Also, did you guys hear this? ESPN reports that the jets turned down an offer from the Chiefs for running back Breeze hall because New York wanted a third round selection and Kansas City was only willing to offer a 20, 26 fourth round pick for Hall.

[Rich Eisen]

They wouldn't. That's ridiculous. That the jets would have given them Breeze hall for a third round pick.

[Monty]

Fire sale. And he wanted out. And he wanted out, too. Like he was tweeting about it. He wanted out.

[Rich Eisen]

We should all be happy because if Breeze Hall's on that team.

[Brian Covino]

They may.

[Rich Eisen]

Win another stupid Super Bowl. Super Bowl.

[Monty]

And just a little NBA news for you. Clippers will be without J. Harden and Kawhi Leonard tonight in Phoenix against the Suns. It's the only game tonight in the NBA. Bradley Beal is going to play and LeBron James has been cleared for contact. He's going to be real reevaluated in one to two weeks, but he's not traveling with the team for their upcoming five game road trip. All right, back to you guys.

[Brian Covino]

Thank you. Monster.

[Rich Eisen]

Any Terry McLaurin?

[Monty]

No, it's not looking good. The last update a week ago was that he was probably not going to play Week 10 and that he probably wasn't going to play in their international game against, I think the Dolphins in Dublin. So it's just, it's not looking good.

[Rich Eisen]

Pearsall.

[Monty]

I don't. Let me, Let me look.

[Rich Eisen]

That one. Rock Purdy.

[Gisele Bryant]

That one.

[Monty]

I could.

[Rich Eisen]

Thank you, Monts. We're gonna go old school next. We do it every Thursday and this one has to do with the Sandman. So if you're a fan of Adam Sandler and you're a fan of sports, we're gonna combine them both and we got some fun coming up here. Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio.

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[Wilmer Valderrama]

Get when you mix 1950s Hollywood, a Cuban musician with a dream, and one of the most iconic sitcoms of all time? You get Desi Arness, a trailblazer, a businessman, a husband, and maybe most importantly, the first Latino to break primetime wide open. Open. I'm Wilmer Valderrama and yes, I grew up watching him, probably just like you and millions of others. But for me, I saw myself in his story.

[Rich Eisen]

From cleaning canary cages to this night here in New York, It's a long ways.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

On the podcast, starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama, I'll take you on a journey to Desi's life, the moments it has overlapped with mine. How he redefined American television and what that meant for all of us watching from the sidelines, waiting for a face like ours on screen. This is the story of how one man spotlight led the path for so many others and how we carry his legacy today. Listen to Starring Desi Arnaz and Wilmer Valderrama as part of the My Cultura Podcast Network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Eisen]

She said, Johnny, the kids didn't come home last night.

[Caller/Listener]

Along the central Texas plains, teens are dying, dying, suicides that don't make sense. Strange accidents and brutal murders in what seems to be a plot ripped straight out of Breaking Bad.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Drugs, alcohol, trafficking of people.

[Monty]

There are people out there that absolutely know what happened.

[Caller/Listener]

Listen to Paper Ghosts, the Texas teen murders on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcast.

[Hari Kondabolu]

On the podcast health stuff, we are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night.

[Rich Eisen]

Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician.

[Hari Kondabolu]

And I'm Hari Kondabolu, a comedian and someone who once googled do I have scurvy at 3am on health stuff, we're.

[Rich Eisen]

Talking about health in a different way.

[Hari Kondabolu]

It's not only about what we can do to improve our health, but also.

[Rich Eisen]

What our health says about us and the way we're living.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Like our episode where we look at.

[Rich Eisen]

Diabetes in the United states. I mean, 50% of Americans are pre diabetic.

[Hari Kondabolu]

How preventable is type 2?

[Brian Covino]

Extremely.

[Rich Eisen]

Or our in depth analysis of how incredible mangoes are.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Oh, it's hard to explain to rest of the world that like your mangoes are fine because mangoes are incredible. But like, you don't even know.

[Rich Eisen]

You don't know.

[Brian Covino]

You don't know.

[Rich Eisen]

It's going to be a fun rap. So tune in.

[Hari Kondabolu]

Listen to health stuff on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Brian Covino]

Wow, we had so much fun already. I could tell you what we're gonna talk about on over promised. Ooh, I'm just listening to the tunes of Iowa Sam here. Oh, yeah, I was trying to figure out the tie in, but you're right. The sandman. Oh, yes, Adam Sandler when he makes that putt. So Iowa Sam's on the ones and twos. Danny G. Super producing. We're getting you involved now, 87799 on Fox. But while I got your ear, Fox Sports Radio Nation. Remember to tune in to over promised little over an hour from now on our YouTube page. Covino Enrich, FSR. We go live. We're going to be talking about good rumors in sports a la Matt Khalil. There's some good rumors going on about that guy and what's in his pantalones.

[Rich Eisen]

The ones that you don't believe and ones that you do believe. So we'll get to some crazy, weird rumors.

[Brian Covino]

We discuss who might be ass in the world of sports. Plus bad tattoos and more on over promised. We do that at 4pm on the west, 7pm on the east. Again, join us live Covino Enrich FSR on YouTube. And now we're live from the Fox Sports radio studio. And it's time for our tire play of the day. Luca was on fire. He was fire. As he led the Lakers comeback win over the spurs last night. 7, 4, 7. Third quarter action.

[Rich Eisen]

Lakers find themselves down all of a sudden by five.

[Brian Covino]

Make it two. Make it two. On the three by Luka the Don.

[Rich Eisen]

Luke is on fire. He was on fire. A little bit of a cold night for Wemby, but hey, listen, it's a long season and that was a great win for the Lakers. That's courtesy of Lakers television from Spectrum Sportsnet. They beat the Spurs 118, 116. That is the Tirek play of the game.

[Brian Covino]

For over 40 years, Tire Rack has been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, all@ TireRack.com the way Tire buying should be. And look at the time. Let's do this.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

There's a search.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah. What we gon do right here is.

[Brian Covino]

Go back.

[Caller/Listener]

Into time. Throwing it back for a Thursday old.

[Brian Covino]

School when 50 hits at 50 after C& R. Give you the time capsule.

[Caller/Listener]

Topic and we reminisce together.

[Rich Eisen]

By the way, speaking of old school, Danny, when you were watching the Lakers beat the spurs last night, did it feel like, ooh, the spurs and Lakers both good again, huh?

[Caller/Listener]

Oh, it's nice to see. Right?

[Rich Eisen]

They're good franchises. They're good for the west.

[Brian Covino]

Oh, Wemby fouled out. What? With like two minutes left.

[Rich Eisen]

And wasn't Mookie Betts cheering that on in the crowd?

[Caller/Listener]

Well, the Dodgers, some of the Dodgers were there holding up the trophy before the game.

[Brian Covino]

Well, hang tight on that because we might discuss does luka even want LeBron back later on. But right now we reminisce. We do this every Thursday. We get you involved at 87799 on Fox and of course ovinoenrich oxsports radio on social media. In 1998, I graduated college. Time stamped, old guy. I know you wouldn't believe it, right when you how young and handsome I look. But I graduated college in 98.

[Rich Eisen]

You look like Mario Lopez now, but pretty soon you'll look like George Lopez.

[Brian Covino]

Oh, man, I hope not. I pray Every night. I pray every night. Please don't. Please don't let that.

[Rich Eisen]

No, I've heard this, Danny. In la, I talk to my Mexican friends. They say one day a guy looks like a young Latino handsome guy. Then all of a sudden, boom. You look like George Lopez. Happens overnight.

[Brian Covino]

That's why I pray. 1998 was a good year. Yankees won the World Series, swept the Padres. Scotty Brosius was the mvp. And one of my favorite movies, one of our favorite movies sort of goes under the radar, but everybody loves it. Waterboy came out in 1998.

[Caller/Listener]

On this day.

[Brian Covino]

On this day.

[Rich Eisen]

Oh, Coach Klein.

[Brian Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Rich Eisen]

Now when you say Waterboy, a word that Danny G said earlier today, Underrated. Now, underrated. Because if you were to ask me who, who. I'm a huge Sandler fan. One day, I hope he's on our show like his good pal Dan Patrick. I love the Sandman. Medulla oblongata. One of the few big time guests we've never had on. I would love the Sandman. But when you say, what are Adam Sandler's best movies? I feel like guys of our generation and women of our generation always tend to say wedding singer. Happy Gilmore. Oh, Billy Madison. There's a handful.

[Brian Covino]

Those are the top three.

[Rich Eisen]

Yeah, and. But water boys even, see, people say, big daddy, Waterboy goes under the radar. So we said, you know what, let's give some props today to those underrated movies.

[Brian Covino]

You know, I say foosball every time we talk football. A because I'm a down ass fool. But mainly because of the movie.

[Rich Eisen]

Who played his mom? Kathy Bates.

[Brian Covino]

Yeah, Foosball is a devil. I see Foosball all the time.

[Rich Eisen]

Yo, Foosball the devil honestly is A Kavino top 10 quote.

[Brian Covino]

He always says it. By the way, top 10 quote. Foosball is the devil is never actually said in sequence in the movie. She said it's a devil. Yeah, but she said she calls it foosball.

[Rich Eisen]

So you and that stupid foosball. So let's hit us up 87799 on Fox on a throwback Thursday in honor of the 27th anniversary of Waterboy. What are other underrated movies? You can name anything. I'm gonna focus on comedy. But you can hit us up with anything. Cause they have some great underrated comedy goodies. And we'll go over them all next. Covino and Rich, best tackler I see since Joe Montana. Gaines. Super flings are here to take your laundry to the next level.

[Caller/Listener]

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[Rich Eisen]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Rich Eisen]

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[Caller/Listener]

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[Rich Eisen]

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And this week on our podcast Hungry for History, we talk oysters plus the Miambi teeth stops by.

[Hari Kondabolu]

If you are not an oyster lover.

[Brian Covino]

Don'T even talk to me. Ancient Athenians used to scratch names onto.

[Monty]

Oyster shells to vote politicians into exile style. So our word ostracize is related to the word oyster. No way.

[Brian Covino]

Bring back the ostrichon.

[Washable Sofas Advertiser]

Listen to Hungry for history on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Eisen]

Jenna World, Jenna Jameson, Vivid Video and the Valley is a new podcast about the history of the adult film industry. I'm Molly Lambert and I'll be your tour guide on a wild trip through adult films. We get paid more than the men.

[Brian Covino]

We call the shots.

[Rich Eisen]

In what way is that degrading?

[Brian Covino]

That's us taking hold of our life.

[Rich Eisen]

Listen to Gentle world on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Dr. Scott Barry Kaufman, host of the Psychology podcast. Here's a clip from an upcoming conversation about how to be a better you.

[Brian Covino]

When you think about emotion regulation, you're.

[Rich Eisen]

Not going to choose an adaptive strategy which is more effic effortful to use.

[Brian Covino]

Unless you think there's a good outcome.

[Rich Eisen]

Avoidance is easier.

[Wilmer Valderrama]

Ignoring is easier.

[Rich Eisen]

Denial is easier.

[Brian Covino]

Complex problem solving takes effort.

[Rich Eisen]

Listen to the Psychology podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Gisele Bryant]

You know the shade is always shadiest right here. Season six of the podcast Reasonably Shady with Gisele Bryant and Robyn Dixon is here dropping every Monday as two of the founding members of the Real Housewives Potomac. We're giving you all the laughs, drama and reality news you can handle. And you know we don't hold back. So come be reasonable or shady with us each and every Monday listen to Reasonably Shady from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Eisen]

This is an iHeart podcast.