C&R - Caleb Williams Debate & Pitt Turns 62

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show / Covino & Rich: "Caleb Williams Debate & Pitt Turns 62"

Date: December 19, 2025
Podcast Feed: The Dan Patrick Show (iHeartPodcasts / Dan Patrick Podcast Network)
Hosts: Steve Covino & Rich Davis (“Covino & Rich”), with Sam, Danny G, and Mike

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Episode Overview

This lively episode centers on a spirited debate about Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Williams' relationship with the media—specifically, his reported refusal to attend pre-game interviews with the Monday Night Football team. The discussion pivots into hot takes on the modern athlete’s obligations, the evolving “face of the franchise” expectations, and how image matters in sports today. Also featured: fun banter, listener calls, and an “Old School” celebration of Brad Pitt’s 62nd birthday.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Setting the Tone: Weekend Excitement & Quick Hits

• NFL Week 16, holiday festivities, and big fight weekend hype (04:00–05:00)
• Friendly banter about party etiquette: “Just don’t be the drunkest person at the holiday party.” —Rich Davis (03:54)

2. Germaphobe Banter & Team Dynamics

• Covino and Rich riff on their cleanliness habits in public and studio settings.
  • Covino admits to being overly cautious: “Radio stations are germ infested dirt deposits of grime.” (07:21)
  • Rich downplays the need for over-the-top hygiene.

3. The Caleb Williams Debate: Obligations Beyond the Field

Context & Catalysts (09:00–12:00)

• The Chicago Bears' historic lack of a true superstar quarterback—Caleb Williams is “the best thing to happen to Chicago since Michael Jordan.” —Rich (09:16)
• Recent reports (Joe Buck) that Caleb Williams “snubbed” not one, but two Monday Night Football pre-production meetings, possibly in response to past criticism by Troy Aikman. (10:26–11:04)
  • “Isn’t it part of the gig to be there regardless of your personal feelings?” —Covino (11:54)
  • Rich: “You have to present yourself in these ways. If I was a general manager...that would be on my checklist.” (13:43)

The Big Question

• Should a franchise QB be required to engage with the media, even when it’s uncomfortable or personal grievances exist?

Dueling Perspectives (14:45–19:12)

• Mike’s Counterpoint (Station Producer, often storms into the studio):
  • “They don’t owe you a damn thing...They got drafted because they can play football, not because they can talk to the media.” (14:48)
  • “...not everybody is comfortable in these interview situations. We talk about Marshawn Lynch...He didn’t feel comfortable in front of the microphone.” (15:47)
• Rich & Covino Retort:
  • “If you’re the face of the franchise, you owe it to the team and the sport.” —Rich (17:12)
  • “What kind of leader are you if you can’t conduct yourself in a professional way?” —Covino (15:19)
• On Modern Athlete’s Media Readiness:
  • Covino, skeptical: “These younger dudes came up so comfortable in front of the camera...They grew up with this.” (19:37)
  • Sam: “You can’t gritty into the end zone and then go, ‘Oh, can’t talk.’” (20:14)

The PR Angle & Blame Game

• Danny G notes: “These were both Zoom meetings where Caleb didn’t show up...It was Williams who made this public, not Aikman.” (20:24–20:49)
• Joe Buck’s confusion: “We sat there and had it happen twice in the first six weeks.” (paraphrased, 20:58)

Cultural Expectations

• Rich: “You’re one social media funny video away from changing the narrative on something.” Suggests Williams and Aikman patch things up with a trending video. (21:41)

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4. Real Talk on Career Expectations in Sports and Beyond (22:31–24:26)

• Covino draws analogy to all jobs today: "There’s an extra layer to almost everybody’s job, and that’s to get in front of the camera, promote, and just answer the questions." (26:13)
• Mike: “That’s not what Caleb Williams is doing. Caleb Williams signed up to play football.” (23:46)
• Sam chimes in that successful but media-awkward coaches (Belichick) and players exist, but Williams "doesn’t strike me as an introverted guy." (24:09–24:20)

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5. Listener Feedback: Calls & Perspectives

Caller Q (Arizona):

Questions comparing Williams to Michael Jordan, emphasizing the need to first "take the city by storm." (34:36)

• Rich: “If he plays his cards right, he could be the best thing since Michael Jordan...Tell me a Chicago athlete since Michael Jordan that has taken the city by storm?” (35:14)

Vegas Larry:

Firmly on the side of media obligations:
- “Those networks pay the bills...Anyone that’s sitting here talking about he shouldn’t talk to the media, you guys are grade A fools.” (36:26)

Gill (Virginia):

Defends Williams’ focus:
- “Troy Aikman when he was a second-year quarterback didn’t care about doing pre-game interviews. All he wanted to do was go out and win football games.” (37:03)

Danny G (Producer):

Adds context: These meetings are often just to provide background for broadcasters—not full public interviews. (38:04)

Jason (San Antonio):

Sarcastic MVP:
- “Caleb Williams, the face of the Bears, about to be the face of Morton Salt, acting so salty...This is what comes with [the job].” (41:36)

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6. Old School When 50 Hits: Brad Pitt’s 62nd Birthday

• Celebrating Brad Pitt and discussing “the greatest leading men” in movie history (47:10–50:05)
• Brad Pitt compared to Robert Redford as a generational sex symbol and “the answer for handsome” for men and women alike.
  • “Brad Pitt became the answer for ‘handsome’ for the last 20 something years in our life.” —Covino (48:20)
  • “Who actually gets you to watch a movie? ... I’m watching because they’re in it.” —Rich (49:40)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On franchise leadership & obligations:

  • “If you’re the quarterback of the team, you gotta protect your teammates.” —Covino (34:02)

• On the role of a modern athlete:

  • “You can’t be a one-dimensional quarterback in today’s world. ... [Almost] every job, you need to do social media, promo.” —Covino (21:48)

• On media gripes:

  • “They don’t owe you a damn thing.” —Mike (14:48)

• On energetic support staff:

  • “I go to Sephora... The sassiest, most charismatic gay dude that helps me... but he didn’t have social media! In today’s world, that’s odd.” —Rich (24:52)

• On cultural shifts:

  • “Not everyone is one of the 32 men lucky enough to be a starting quarterback in the NFL.” —Rich (34:02)

• Sarcastic caller hot take:

  • “Caleb Williams, the face of the Bears, about to be the face of Morton Salt, acting so salty.” —Jason, San Antonio (41:36)

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Important Timestamps

• [04:00] – NFL week, party/fight weekend excitement
• [09:00] – Bears historic QB woes; Williams hype
• [10:26] – Joe Buck claims Williams snubbed MNF meetings
• [14:45] – Mike storms in with anti-media-obligation argument
• [20:25] – Caleb Williams blames PR, Joe Buck’s perspective
• [22:31] – “Progression of the job” across fields
• [34:36] – First listener calls: is Williams the city's next Michael Jordan?
• [47:10] – Old School segment: Brad Pitt’s iconic status
• [50:05] – “Who pulls you to the theater?” Greatest leading men discussion

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Tone & Style

• Conversational, high-energy, sports radio banter
• Mix of humor, sarcasm, and real talk; authentic language with playful jabs
• Inclusive—actively encourages listener input and debate

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Summary Takeaways

• Caleb Williams Debate: The core of the episode wrestles with whether today’s marquee athletes, and especially franchise quarterbacks, owe extra engagement to media and fans. The consensus: on-field excellence is paramount—but as the “face” of a team and city, leadership involves more than just play.
• Perspective Gap: Self-identified “old school” fans and hosts expect more public-facing responsibility, while others contend performance should trump PR efforts.
• Listener Engagement: The show is highly interactive, using listener calls to challenge and expand the hot takes.
• Pop Culture Crossover: In trademark fashion, the show weaves sports with cultural references—in this case celebrating Brad Pitt as the ultimate leading man, tying in discussions of celebrity, charisma, and star power both in sports and entertainment.

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For those who missed the episode: Expect a lively, insightful dive into what it means to be a star athlete in today's hyper-connected world, why media relations matter (or don’t), and some laughs along the way—plus a detour into Brad Pitt’s lasting legend on his 62nd birthday.

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[Covino]

Hey, thanks for listening to the Covino and Rich podcast.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

It's go time. It's showtime. It's CNR time.

[Rich]

Let's go.

[Covino]

Super fun time. Cause Thursday is the new Friday, week 16 of the NFL Plus Fight Weekend holiday party weekend. I'm pumped dude. I'm pumped man.

[Rich]

Just don't be the drunkest person at the holiday party.

[Covino]

Only rule. Dude, this is.

[Ad Voice]

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[Covino]

Such a great weekend. You know me, I love a night, I love me the holidays and I love me a fight weekend. And it starts off with two, 11 and three teams tonight. That's a battle in itself.

[Rich]

I can't wait.

[Covino]

Lots to get to.

[Rich]

Can they both lose? As a Niners fan, can the Seahawks and Rams both pick up an L?

[Covino]

I know you want that, but it's not happening. But let's rock out CNR on FSR live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. Remember, we're streaming live at covino and rich fsr on YouTube. Covino and rich fsr on YouTube and I'll say this, people make note. People get ready. Speaking of the fight right after this show in two hours we're going to break it down on over promised. Our bonus pod episode 122 with fight expert 2 Tone the superstar.

[Rich]

Love that guy on TikTok. He's great.

[Covino]

He's a social media superstar, but he's also a big fight guy. We'll talk about all the fights coming up, especially Jake Paul AJ right after this show right here on our YouTube page. Follow for free. Send it to a friend. Covino and Rich fsr. But before we get into it, Rich got to talk. Caleb Williams old school win 50 hits. We're throwing it back on a Thursday. Spaghetti in the bag. What's that about? Food, entertainment, and more. Am I the weird guy? Am I the weird guy for still wiping down the console on the counter?

[Rich]

I'm not going to lie to you.

[Covino]

People talk about me behind my back. You and Danny Cabino is a big germaphobe.

[Rich]

You both have wipes in your hand. Like, Honestly, is it 2020? You wipe down your grocery store.

[Covino]

Me too. No, No, I don't do that.

[Sam]

And Aaron Torres, who just hosted in the Doug show, he also wiped everything down.

[Covino]

There's nothing wrong with that. You know what? I think you're weird.

[Danny G]

Don't.

[Rich]

On the airplane lick.

[Sam]

What do you lick? Taxi cab floors?

[Covino]

Yeah. Seriously, did you not learn a lesson five years ago? Six years ago? Nope. You have.

[Sam]

You have young kid immunity. That's what you have young children. And they've always got their fingers, you know, poking them in your eye.

[Covino]

I have.

[Rich]

I haven't been a wuss my whole life mentality.

[Ad Voice]

Oh.

[Covino]

Oh, he thinks he's better than us.

[Rich]

You play baseball. You play softball. You lick your hands, then you touch a bat that everyone else touched. You know, you playing in the mud, in the dirt. As a kid, I was never. I'll be honest, I was never a clean kid. I was just clean. But I was never like the.

[Covino]

That's why they call you Doo Doo cocka Finger David.

[Rich]

I was just never the kid that was like, let me wipe down. Let me wash my hands.

[Sam]

Well, okay. You gotta wash your hands.

[Covino]

I was never a clean kid. I was never Dirty ass Davis, they called him.

[Sam]

Did you leave the stall without washing your hands, Rich? You one of those guys?

[Rich]

Well, he is never.

[Covino]

Don't be fooled by his. Don't say that smile. He is that guy.

[Rich]

I will never leave a stall. But there are times where I'm at my house and I'll take a number one, and I'm thinking, like, my junk's clean. What do I need to wash my hands for? See what I mean?

[Covino]

Don't shake his hand.

[Danny G]

Yeah, and if you saw what levar Arrington did with that microphone every morning, Rich, you'd have a wipe in your hand.

[Covino]

Exactly.

[Rich]

I know he puts his feet on it, but you know what? That's why I got immunity, dude. What do you take every day? I take vitamin D. I take my nad plus because I'm aging in reverse now. And nads. You take nads. I. And I take my men's daily vitamin. And you know what? I got little kids that are boogers.

[Sam]

Exactly. I just think you guys, you've got built in protection.

[Rich]

You guys are gonna, you know, you.

[Covino]

Guys are weak ass immunity workplaces especially a radio studio. But happy to be here. And let's get into it man, a big game tonight.

[Rich]

You probably still sing Happy Birthday when you wash your hands like it's Covid times.

[Covino]

I do. No, I learned a lesson. And radio stations are germ infested dirt deposits of grime. So Caleb Williams, can we talk about.

[Rich]

Let's talk about Caleb Williams. In fact as we say that so many people talking about this big game on Sunday. Bears looking for revenge. Looking for revenge. They're playing at home in Chicago before they move to Indiana.

[Ad Voice]

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[Rich]

Playing at Soldier Field. They're slight dogs, which is wild. And Ben Johnson said his team is ready. They are pumped up at their shot at the packers. And in fact there's people that think the loser of this game, the loser of this game could, could see their way out of the playoffs. I don't think that. I think they both make it. I think Detroit's the odd man out, but we'll see. That's a big one. But speaking of the mayors, Caleb Williams, they've never had a good quarterback. The baseball, think about it. They've never had a good quarterback.

[Covino]

Well, who.

[Sam]

You could say Jay Cutler was good.

[Rich]

It's adequate.

[Sam]

You could say Rex Grossman at times was really good and then at times was really bad. But they haven't had a Super bowl level quarterback since Jim McMahon even 40 years ago.

[Rich]

But he wasn't even a great.

[Sam]

Yeah, he wasn't like.

[Covino]

He was cool though.

[Sam]

Yeah, no, he was along for the ride and did his part.

[Rich]

But Jim McMahon was like Joe Namath on steroids.

[Covino]

Meaning like yeah, he presented cool.

[Rich]

He was cool as could be. Got a mullet and shades on headbands. Jim McMahon probably slept with half your moms.

[Covino]

He was so 80s cool for sure.

[Rich]

But he wasn't really good. But did he.

[Sam]

He didn't lead the team to was.

[Rich]

Their defense when they lost that super bowl in the rain to the colts. What was that? 06. Who was the quarterback of that?

[Sam]

Rex Grossman.

[Rich]

Rex Gross.

[Mike]

Come on.

[Rich]

That you knew that what was going.

[Covino]

To happen in that game.

[Rich]

Peyton Manning. Right.

[Covino]

So Caleb Williams, I think Caleb Williams.

[Rich]

Is the best thing that's happened to Chicago.

[Covino]

Absolutely. And we're seeing the progression. We're seeing him do better and better all the time. He's consistently gotten better. So let's start with some props.

[Rich]

Dare I say the best thing to happen to Chicago since Michael Jordan. Think of Chicago sports. The 2016 Cubs.

[Sam]

The 2016 Cubs, Blackhawks won a couple.

[Rich]

Stanley Cups, but no one cares about Blackhawks. I'm talking, like, face of Chicago since Michael Jordan.

[Covino]

Abe Roman.

[Rich]

That's a good one.

[Covino]

He was the sausage king.

[Rich]

Sebastian Maniscalco's from Chicago.

[Covino]

Yeah, he is Chicago. But you're AB Froman, the sausage king of Chicago.

[Rich]

Who is the sausage king of Chicago?

[Covino]

Steve Baartman was pretty big, but the.

[Rich]

2016 Cubs, that was a. That was a, you know, a Rizzo. You know, you had a bunch of stars on that team. Haywood, you had Chris Bryant. Like, you had a, you know, a squad of great players, but no one was like, the face of that team. So I'm saying that Caleb Williams could very well be the best thing to happen to Chicago sports since Michael Jordan.

[Covino]

That's a question in itself.

[Rich]

And I say that free. And I say that because I'm disappointed in Caleb Williams.

[Covino]

Well, the story is, and Danny G. Will elaborate, but Joe Buck has been outspoken saying that Caleb Williams snubbed Monday Night Football not once, but twice.

[Rich]

Not one.

[Covino]

The pre. Yeah, another one. The pre show meeting. The pre meeting for Monday Night Football. Caleb Williams was like, nah. But it goes back with a beef that he had with Troy Aikman. Aikman apparently very, very critical of Caleb Williams. So he probably kept that in his back pocket. He kept the receipts. And when they were like, yeah, we need you to come out for these pregame meetings. He was a no show. So therefore snubbed them again, not once, but twice.

[Rich]

I always keep the receipts because you ever see Judge Judy? What does she always want?

[Covino]

Let's see the receipts.

[Rich]

Show me the receipts.

[Ad Voice]

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[Rich]

I even keep my CVS receipt that's like. That's eight feet long. Because Judge Judy's in my head. Yeah, show me the receipts.

[Sam]

Well, there's deals on those receipts, but you're not going to go back to CVS two days later to use them.

[Covino]

No, I keep them just to add to my girlfriend's collection, you know, all the ones that she leaves on the counter.

[Rich]

Oh, sweet. Those 50% off Vidal Sassoon if I buy it in the next 48 hours.

[Ad Voice]

Yes.

[Covino]

So I just.

[Rich]

Was just here.

[Sam]

I'm not coming back.

[Covino]

What is it with women? I hate to be sexist. I've been sexist two days in a row. You know what? Women in their water bottles everywhere, receipts everywhere. And boxes they build in a clubhouse. What is going on? So I keep the receipts too rich. Because I get yelled at if I throw them away. And apparently Caleb Williams kept his, too.

[Rich]

No, he doesn't like the criticism, but.

[Covino]

He doesn't like it. But do you feel it's his obligation as the face of the franchise? You've said it yourself just now, he's the best thing the Michael Jordan sliced bread in Chicago. If he is, shouldn't it be. I can't seem mandatory, but understood that as part of the gig to be there regardless of your personal feelings of Troy Aikman.

[Rich]

I mean, Caleb Williams I find to be a likable guy. Some might disagree. I think he's very likable. I think, again, poses the question, dude, I just said he's the best thing to happen to Chicago since Michael Jordan. I think that's.

[Covino]

That shows you.

[Rich]

That shows you how I feel about what Caleb Williams is capable of. But here's where I. Where I go a little haywire and say, like, yo, you're disappointing me, kiddo.

[Covino]

Okay?

[Rich]

And I say kiddo, because he's like half my age. He's like 20. We got to remember, these guys are like 20 years old. Caleb Williams, much the same way I criticized Justin Herbert a week ago, because you got to remember, I'm consistent here. I was so disappointed in how Justin Herbert handled his post game interview. And some people said I was a whiny bitch. And I'm like, no, the media is there and the networks are there and all these people are there because they perpetuate and support your product. So I did not like how Justin Herbert handled his postgame, where he's like, yeah, yeah, I don't want to talk to you.

[Covino]

Same. It was a bad look.

[Rich]

I thought it was bad luck.

[Covino]

Don't get mad at us for calling what we see. Be mad at him for doing it. I have a rule.

[Rich]

Anytime someone does something, it's the communal ritual. I'm sure we're not the only ones that do this, but I say to myself, well, would I do that? And the equivalent in my world would.

[Covino]

Be if you said, did I do that? I thought it was, did I do that?

[Rich]

Yanni Cheese. I think to myself, did I do that? I know what, did I do that? What comes with being a broadcaster is being not just a host on the air. It's being friendly with sales, being a great team player here at the company. There's layers to what we do.

[Covino]

It's not just the on air product. And that's the most important part.

[Rich]

And whatever, whatever you do for a living, you don't have to Be a radio host to agree that your job isn't one dimensional. That would be like if I did the greatest show in the world. But I was like, you know what I don't want to do? I don't want to do a tire rack read. You know what? Tyrack. Great people that support our show. That's part of the game. If Caleb Williams doesn't want to sit down to do a Monday Night Football interview.

[Covino]

Part of the business, right? It's part of the business. It's just what you have to do.

[Rich]

Saying young and old athletes, especially if you're the face. He owes it to him. And if anyone disagrees with me, they're out of their mind. And I want to come in the studio and debate me on him. I want to hear from you at 87799 on Fox because I think if you.

[Covino]

Oh, someone's storming it right now. Oh, my. You know what you requested. And here he is. Mike. Mike runs his place.

[Danny G]

Never heard of him.

[Rich]

Big Mike who runs his place.

[Mike]

I am tired of ridiculousness.

[Rich]

So I believe they owe it to the fans, the media, the teams, everything to.

[Mike]

They don't owe you a damn thing.

[Ad Voice]

Wow.

[Mike]

They're not on the radio. They're not getting paid to talk to you. Now, they may have media obligations, sure, but they don't have to do anything for you. That's not their job. They got drafted because they can play football, not because they can talk to the media.

[Rich]

Have you ever heard Colin Cowherd say quarterback face? Because it needs to be more than just a guy that could sling the ball. You got to be a face of the franchise.

[Covino]

You got to have something to say about that, Mike. Actually, I see your point, obviously, right? It's a great point. All that matters is what he's doing on the field. But what kind of leader are you? What kind of leader could you be if you can't even conduct yourself in a professional way like that?

[Mike]

Well, that's on you. That's on the team.

[Covino]

Can you really command the locker room and respect from anyone? If you can.

[Mike]

So you're general manager.

[Rich]

You're.

[Mike]

And you're watching a guy on the field play quarterback, and you're thinking to yourself, you know what? He didn't look good in front of the camera. I'm not drafting that guy. Are you kidding me right now?

[Rich]

That would be on my checklist right now.

[Mike]

Look, okay, I'm not saying you don't consider that as part of, you know, his job, but he doesn't need to Be that guy. And you can work around it if he's not that guy. Because you got to know that there are people out there that don't feel comfortable in these interview situations. We talk about Marshawn lynch, who didn't want to. He was at the Super Bowl. He didn't feel comfortable in front of the microphone.

[Covino]

Not everyone is built for the camera. Not everyone has that type of personality. But what does he expect Troy Aikman to do? Not do his job. He wants everyone to kiss his ass, right? Troy Aikman's doing his job. So what?

[Rich]

Now he doesn't have to call.

[Mike]

He doesn't have to be. Troy doesn't have to call him out because he doesn't want to do an interview with Troy.

[Rich]

But don't we have a rule?

[Covino]

Like, he can't be a sports baby, right? He's a football player. He can't take a little criticism? So just because Troy Aikman criticized his game, he's gonna say, nah, Now I'm not gonna talk to Monday Night Football into the broadcast.

[Mike]

Do we know. Is that. Is that why he decided not to talk to him?

[Covino]

This is according to Joe Buck, okay?

[Rich]

You don't. You don't believe Joe Buck all of a sudden.

[Covino]

And again, what's he making? Look, Caleb Williams, number one draft pick, Chicago Bears, signed a four year fully guaranteed contract worth 39.5 million with a 25.5 million signing bonus averaging 9.9 million annually. He can't take a few minutes to talk to Troy Aikman? Suck it up a little bit.

[Rich]

Let me tell you again, for the.

[Covino]

Fans, for the leadership, for the look.

[Rich]

Of it, I'm a big fan of Caleb Williams.

[Covino]

Same.

[Rich]

Like I said. I mean, I wouldn't say best thing to happen to Chicago since Michael Jordan if I didn't think that. I just think you got to talk to the media. You have to present yourself in these ways. If I was a general manager, which, you know, I could imagine someone one day calling me, be like, rich, you're the right guy. If I were a general manager.

[Sam]

More like a general store manager.

[Covino]

General store manager.

[Rich]

It's a good one, Sam. Thank you. I'll take it. I would think part of it, Part of it would be like, hey, listen, all right, all right. You know how you see a coach and a GM will be like, all right, run me through these schemes and they have a, you know, dry race board? I'd be like, all right, we just want a game in overtime. I'm Susie Colbert.

[Mike]

I'm.

[Rich]

I'm Hannah Storm or someone. I'd grab a fake mic and be like, hey, go ahead. You're on.

[Mike]

Okay.

[Rich]

I want to see how you react. I want to see how that is why.

[Mike]

That is why you are not being asked to be a general manager of.

[Rich]

A football team, Mike.

[Mike]

Because you think something like that, that matters. It does. It matters in a tiny, itty bitty.

[Covino]

Itty bitty little bit.

[Mike]

That's something that you can easily overlook if you've got a guy who knows how to sling the football and lead a team.

[Rich]

Mike, you know what I used to do when I was a single guy? A lot of things I'm not sure I want to.

[Covino]

Yeah, you want to hear about this on Fox Sports?

[Rich]

When I was a single guy, I used to take women to a comedy club. And part of my test was when the comedian would tell really dirty jokes. I would look at her reaction because I'd be like, if she's. If she's like Ewing. And when the guy is saying raunchy stuff, it'd be like, not for me. If I'm a GM and a coach and I'm trying to find a face of my franchise quarterback, face someone to lead this team. I want to know how they react in a good or bad situation when a mic is thrown in their face.

[Covino]

Is it the most important thing? It's not the most important part of the gig.

[Rich]

I'm not taking Guy Smiley, who has a QBR rating of zero, I'm saying. But I think Caleb Williams is in a position to be the face of a city for the next decade. I'm just saying fine tune these things, Caleb. Fine tune them.

[Mike]

What if he doesn't want to be the face of a team for the next decade and he just wants to win football games? How about that? Why can't that be enough?

[Covino]

You know, I'm glad you're a football player. He's a Mike. Because every time we talk about stuff like this a lot, Justin Herbert a few weeks ago or last week, we always get the same pushback from listeners that you're giving us right now. So I'm glad you're speaking your side here.

[Mike]

Not everybody is comfortable in front of a microphone like you guys are.

[Rich]

You guys love it.

[Covino]

One last. One last point I want to make because I do hear what Mike is saying. Right. But I want to go to the phones, too. At 87799 on Fox. Rich, you said Caleb Williams is 20. He's actually 24. Right. But these younger dudes came up so comfortable in Front of the camera. You kidding me? They're doing little dance moves. They grew up with this. Caleb Williams grew up probably doing. Was that the floss on TikTok?

[Rich]

You can't score a touchdown. Yeah. Start doing the floss and they're like, kids today.

[Mike]

Harlem shake. Yeah. You can't.

[Covino]

Today are way, way primed and ready for this.

[Rich]

You can't gritty into the end zone and like, oh, can't talk.

[Covino]

I'm dead serious. So, like, I'm not buying that. Because they're more comfortable than ever before in front of the camera.

[Danny G]

Couple of things to point out about this story.

[Rich]

It's completely fake now.

[Danny G]

No, it's the. Well, some of it. The PR director is who? Caleb Williams is blaming Chicago's PR director because these were both zoom meetings where the guy sat there and Caleb didn't show up. But it was Williams who made this public, not Aikman. All right, so this SI article says since it was Williams who made this public and put the blame on Aikman for the two not having their pregame production meeting, Buck was left miffed. That's the part that bothered me the most, said Buck. It was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. This was on your guys schedule. And we sat there and we had it happen twice in the first six weeks.

[Rich]

You know what I think would be a cool move? Remember how we just saw recently Jaden Daniels missed a high five with the owner of the Texans and they made a viral video out of it.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

And it was like, oh, wow. It really humanized the owner and made you be like, man. Jayden Daniels. Did I say Jaden Daniels? C.J. stroud. My bad. C.J. stroud made him look way cooler. Humanized him. The owner of the Texans, you know, took, you know, took the ribbing of, oh, I got this with the high five. If Troy Aikman and Cable Williams in a world of social media videos, just.

[Covino]

Do a trending video.

[Rich]

If they're. If they made a funny video together, we'd all be like, yo, Aikman's funnier than we thought. And we'd be like, Caleb, they could turn in.

[Covino]

Turn this into something cool. That would be nice.

[Rich]

We live in a world now where you're one social media funny video away from changing the narrative on something. I really believe.

[Covino]

But I do agree with Rich, which is rare. Like, you can't be a one dimensional quarterback in today's world. The one dimensional anything. You know, even in radio, we have to do stuff for social media. That wasn't part of the gig. Originally. So I know there's the argument of, yeah, man, I'm just here to play football. I never signed up for anything else. I'm a good football player. Hey, I never signed up to be on the camera. I never signed up to do extra social media content afterward. That just became the progression of what we do. I came here to rock the mic on the daily. And, you know, I think this is something that a lot of young players in professional sports, in today's world, in today's landscape of, of promotion have to get used to. It's just part of the game. Part of the game.

[Mike]

That's fine. When you guys get to be GMs of your football team, you can make sure that your players are well versed in the media and don't worry about how well they play out.

[Covino]

They're born that way. I don't care if you run a pizzeria. You have to have a social media presence. Right? You have to find someone that works there that's going to promote your product.

[Rich]

Can I tell you something disappointing?

[Mike]

That's Caleb Williams job is to promote the Bears product.

[Covino]

Yes, that's his job. Make them likable as the face of a franchise. Yeah, I think so. As part of it.

[Mike]

I think it's his job to win football games.

[Covino]

Period. End of sentence.

[Mike]

Period.

[Covino]

Our job is to host an entertaining show. That's the, that's our primary job. But there's other things involved.

[Mike]

No, that's not true. It's. You're, you're, you're. It's, it's not the same. It's apples to oranges because you guys, if you want to keep your jobs, you have to keep the advertisers happy. You have to keep the people interested. That's why you have to do all of these extra media things that you didn't sign up for in the beginning. But you're okay, you're going to pivot, you're going to do it. That's not what Caleb Williams is doing. Caleb Williams signed up to play football. He didn't signed up to, to be the face of the Bears or, or to, you know, be the ones who's, who's in charge of making sure that everybody's happy with, with him on the camera. That's ridiculous.

[Rich]

I know. You're the number one overall pick, though. That's a pretty big deal.

[Sam]

There's a lot of, there's a lot of heaviness at the crowd.

[Rich]

We got it.

[Covino]

Great power.

[Sam]

I also support Mike's point, though, like Bill Belichick is living proof that you can be hard with the media. You can be kind of introverted, and you can still be championship level and win Super Bowls. But Caleb Williams, I agree. He has to, like, he doesn't strike me as an introverted guy.

[Covino]

He strikes me as expecting him to do comedy up there. You know, no one's expecting him to.

[Sam]

Be Dangerfield, but he is the number one overall pick two years ago, and he's a Heisman Trophy winner and a.

[Rich]

Generational type of guy.

[Sam]

He does have to have some media gravitas.

[Covino]

And I think a young person. There's no excuse for a young person to not feel comfortable.

[Rich]

Can I give you this as strike his head? Can I give you the lamest analogy ever?

[Sam]

This isn't 1960 anymore.

[Rich]

I mean, I'm great at. I'm great at lame analogy. So give me 10 seconds. I go to the mall with my wife, and this is a true story because we're on camera now talking about pivots, right? Mm. We have to actually, truth be told, put a little powder on our head so we're not shiny for the camera.

[Covino]

True story.

[Rich]

So I had to go to mall with my wife and be like, babe, help me. I need, like, some type of powder or something for my head.

[Mike]

Right?

[Rich]

So I'm not shining. I don't be shiny. I go to Sephora. There's the sassiest, most charismatic gay dude that helps me out, and I'm like, this guy's charisma, plus this. I had the greatest experience. And I'm like, my guy.

[Covino]

What's his name?

[Rich]

Damo was his name.

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[Rich]

Scandal at Sephora. This guy was the most helpful, sassy, like, I think I know the guy. He should be on, like, a reality show.

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[Rich]

This guy was over the top. Sass, like, sparkles are coming shooting out of him.

[Mike]

Sounds like a wonderful experience here.

[Rich]

And I go, this is. Thank you so much for helping me. I'm gonna go on Fox Sports Radio and now I won't have a shiny head because of you. Thank you. I go, what's your social media? He goes, yeah, I don't really do that. And I go, yeah.

[Covino]

In today's world, I was like, you're a young. You must have bodies hidden somewhere.

[Rich]

You're a young dude that clearly knows his makeup game.

[Covino]

If you don't have a social media footprint and you're not giving that extra layer in today's world, especially as a young person, that's odd.

[Rich]

My wife said. My wife.

[Covino]

So for him to deny camera Time. That's odd for a young leader of a franchise.

[Rich]

All right, well, you know your thoughts and feedback. Let me get the computer up, we'll read the feedback. And by the way, I want to wish you a happy birthday, Mike.

[Mike]

Oh, hey, thank you.

[Rich]

Oh, wait, I'm sorry. No, it's stone cold 61st birthday.

[Covino]

Not stone old.

[Mike]

Stone old Mike, man, I'm just taking it outside.

[Covino]

Hey, Mike, I'm glad you came in today. I'm glad you spoke that side because every time we bring it up, I get it. Even if you're a Bears fan, all you expect and all you want is for him to deliver on the field. That is the most important. I agree with you there. But there is an extra layer to almost everybody's job, and that's to get in front of the camera, to promote and just to answer the questions. That's all. No one expects you to be Tony Robbins out there delivering a TED Talk.

[Rich]

By the way, I think moving forward, I want you to bust in anytime you. Adam, anytime you adamantly disagree with me. I love that you just busted him.

[Covino]

Throw something at Rich next time. Yeah, throw things.

[Danny G]

Yeah, we don't need that many interruptions.

[Covino]

During the week, right?

[Rich]

Thank you, Mike.

[Covino]

Thanks, Mike.

[Rich]

Hey, listen, we'll talk about Caleb Williams. We're going to talk a lot about these great matchups for NFL Week 16 starting tonight, Rams and Seahawks. Let's break down that game a little bit.

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[Rich]

What are you gonna call? What are you gonna call it? Upper decker. Yeah.

[Covino]

His sole responsibility is to win and play great football. I get it. But there's more layers to the job, everyone's job in today's world. Now we bring it up because he snubbed Monday Night Football's interview pre show meeting twice. This is according to Joe Buck. And I know they had a little beef with Aikman, criticized him and all that, but think about what happens when he doesn't do the interview as the leader of the team. He leaves that pressure onto other players. That's not a good look. That's not good. Imagine if Anthony Volpe, and I'm using a Yankee who got a lot of.

[Rich]

Criticism this year, the Volpedo.

[Covino]

Imagine if he was like, you know what? I don't feel like doing interviews today. Granted. Look, if you do have a bad day, maybe you don't here and there, but imagine all the times that he was interviewed. If he didn't do it, he's putting that pressure on other players, his own teammates, to be answering questions on his behalf.

[Rich]

I get it.

[Covino]

That's not cool. If you're the quarterback of the team, you got to. You got to protect your teammates.

[Rich]

Not everyone is comfortable in front of a microphone. I get that. But you know what else? Not everyone's One of the 32 men that are lucky enough to be a starting quarterback in the National Football League. All right, let's go to the phone calls, feedback. We love it. Most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio. Danny Grottio. Danny G's on the phones. Danny, you want to hit us up?

[Covino]

I think you didn't listen to a thing I said.

[Rich]

That's something about a podcast in the toilet.

[Covino]

There you go. See? But I'm glad. Hopefully somebody did. Let's go to the phones.

[Danny G]

Let's start with Q in Arizona.

[Rich]

He said, don't forget my oval tea. The drink ovalted. What are you saying?

[Covino]

You sure to drink your oval teen.

[Rich]

Who?

[Danny G]

We got Q in Arizona.

[Rich]

What up, Q?

[Covino]

Hey, Q.

[Caller]

What's happening, fellas? I usually be listening to Rob Parker. That's my guy, Calvin Washington.

[Covino]

We love them and our couple's great.

[Caller]

Yeah, the time went up. So unfortunate for me. But I don't really care about Caleb Williams if he's, you know, if he don't want to do interviews. That didn't catch my attention. What caught my attention is you sitting up in here putting Michael Jordan, Caleb Williams, in the same breath as Michael Jordan.

[Covino]

Well, if you.

[Rich]

Hold on now. Hold on now. If you're a fan of Rob Parker, that's not preposterous, then, right? Because that guy's got the hottest takes of all. I don't think they're in the same category. What I said, though, was if he plays his cards right, he could be the best thing since Michael Jordan. Because, tell me, a Chicago athlete since Michael Jordan that has taken the city by storm and won a championship and really broke glory. You said the Blackhawk, Sam. But knowing those hockey players by name, let's be real here. So Caleb Williams could be that guy.

[Danny G]

Yeah. Derrick Rose had a little bit of a love affair with the city.

[Rich]

Kevin Hester, maybe, like you said, like Anthony Frank Thomas.

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[Rich]

I love Big Hurt.

[Covino]

He was a big star. He's a Hall of Famer.

[Mike]

All right?

[Rich]

But come on.

[Covino]

Yeah. He needs to win. We agree, and we hope you like our show. Who do we got next?

[Rich]

Well, he did say bummed. He was, like, sad for me.

[Covino]

It was unfortunate.

[Rich]

Unfortunate for him.

[Covino]

Sorry. Unfortunately, he has to listen to us.

[Danny G]

Let's go to Vegas, Larry.

[Covino]

What up, Vegas? Larry.

[Rich]

Hey.

[Caller]

Hey, man. What's up, man? Hey, check this out. First of all, who let that guy Mike in? Tell him to go home and never come back.

[Covino]

I don't want him storming in here to get any yelling.

[Caller]

Everybody. Yeah. Hey, listen here, man. You know, when you sign up for that, I bet you when they interviewed him at his time, when he was at the draft, I bet you he went in there, said all the right things, he'll give an interview. Guys lose Super Bowls, how would you feel? They want to have to go talk to the media after getting blasted in the Super Bowl. But those guys man up and they go do it. Those networks pay the bills. So anyone that's sitting in there talking about he shouldn't talk to the media. You guys are grade A pool. Whoever believes that, I agree.

[Rich]

Yo, you and I are on the same page, which means we're both right. All right, who else we got?

[Danny G]

Danny G. Gill in Virginia.

[Rich]

Yo, Gil, what's up?

[Covino]

Hey, Gil.

[Caller]

Hey, fellas. So I'm in complete disagreement with the last caller, and probably all y'.

[Rich]

All.

[Caller]

So here's the thing. Troy Aikman, when He was a second year quarterback, didn't care about doing pre game interviews. All he wanted to do was go out and win football games. That was his primary job. Because if he knew, he knew he didn't do that, he wouldn be a quarterback in the NFL. Caleb has the same opportunity. Get your football right first, then do your interviews.

[Rich]

I don't think you have to pick one or the other. I think you could be a great football player and also just be polite, take interviews and do the right thing. I don't, I don't think they're.

[Covino]

And you don't have to like the.

[Rich]

Interview is mutually exclusive. I don't think, you know, I, I think, I don't think it's choose to be a good quarterback or do a good interview.

[Covino]

I think. And keep in mind no one here dislikes Caleb Williams. This just happens to be the story and we hear too much of this. He's just our example jump off today.

[Danny G]

Also, I want to point out these are behind the scenes meetings with the broadcast crew. This isn't like an interview that's going to run on a big platform.

[Rich]

Yeah, they might take a snippet here and there or they learn about the players, their little sit down.

[Covino]

So I tell the broadcasters, get some insight of what to expect upcoming game. I mean that's for all sports. The fight game especially.

[Rich]

You'll hear like Kevin Burkhardt or someone say like oh, this week we talked to.

[Covino]

Exactly.

[Rich]

Caleb Williams and he said blank. Like that's part of the, part of the gig. Right. It's like I said. My analogy would be if we said, oh yeah, we'll do whatever you need, boss. And then we're like, well, we don't want to do commercial reads. That's part of the job. Like it's, it's part of it. Who do we got?

[Danny G]

And that's sponsor related. Rich. I think the, the more appropriate analogy would be if you didn't want to do liners for the affiliates that you're on. You know what I mean? What kind of. Yeah, exactly. And not just a little part of it, a big part of it. Because that's how you guys are blasted out to the world.

[Covino]

And like I said before, I'll tie it in again. If I refuse to do that. Right. Danny G. My responsibility now falls on maybe you. Right. And Danji's like, oh, it was not my job. What do I got to do it? So if Caleb Williams isn't doing it, it falls on someone else. That's not cool as a leader.

[Rich]

Well, with that said, we got to go to Isaac, but I want to give a shout out to 98.3 the Muskrat.

[Covino]

I'm kidding.

[Rich]

That's not what's up. Isa, how are you, man?

[Covino]

What up, man?

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[Covino]

I mean, you got to play the game a little bit. Like Rich pointed out before all, you.

[Rich]

Know, let's take one more phone call on this and then we are going to go old school and 50 hits. We'll talk a lot about tonight. I mean, tonight's the game of the year. Rams, Seahawks. But who we got?

[Covino]

Danny.

[Danny G]

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[Rich]

What's up, San Antonio?

[Caller]

Yeah, man. Caleb Williams, the face of the Bears, about to be the face of Morton Salt, acting so salty. I don't know why he has to.

[Rich]

He's.

[Caller]

He's got a what comes with the job of being a quarterback? You're gonna whether you sign up for it or not. What Mike was talking about. Whether you sign up for it or not, this is what comes with it.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah, I agree, man. I agree. And especially in today's world, more than ever before. So thank you guys again. No shade, no hate. We're not hating, we're just stating.

[Rich]

And that guy's in San Antonio. Go get me some Chachos or Rudy's barbecue.

[Covino]

Oh yeah, send it here and stick around because in six minutes, old school. When 50 hits, we throw it back and reminisce. We get you involved.

[Rich]

Kavino and Rich.

[Covino]

More Next.

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Yo, Sam. Fun fact. It's my all time favorite Christmas jig. Alvin and the Chipmunks. Alvin Covino and Rich. Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich]

I'm looking at. Who would be Alvin, Simon and Theodore in this room?

[Covino]

I'm Alvin. Clearly you're definitely Simon's thin guy.

[Rich]

He could be like our Simon.

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[Rich]

Yeah.

[Mike]

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[Covino]

All right. So Sammy, you are.

[Rich]

You are Simon.

[Covino]

Well, he wears glasses. That's about it.

[Rich]

Spotty, you were. Danny. Who's Theodore? I don't know you.

[Covino]

After a couple tacos, we'll figure it out. Covino and Rich live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. Happy holidays. It's time for our tire rack play of the day. Jaren Jackson continues to light it up for the Grizzlies.

[Rich]

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[Rich]

Hey, it's Thursday and around this time every Thursday we throw it back.

[Covino]

There's a surge. Yeah.

[Rich]

What we gon do right here is go back.

[Covino]

Back into time.

[Rich]

Throwing it back for a Thursday old school when 50 hits at 50 after C& R. Give you the time capsule topic and we reminisce together. Yeah.

[Covino]

So Danny G. Our super producer are always coming up with great ideas. We have the greatest team here with Sam. Danny G. Spotty Loewencron today.

[Rich]

Oh, so you're not entertaining any trades at the deadline or.

[Covino]

No trades, no.

[Rich]

You're not doing any winter meetings.

[Covino]

Future's looking bright for Fox Sports Radio.

[Rich]

I thought we were going to acquire a middle infielder.

[Covino]

No, no, not right now. No. But he sent us a meme and it says William Bradley Pitt. William Bradley Pitt is an award winning actor producer with a career spanning over 30 years. He's won two Academy Awards, two Golden Globes, two BAFTAs that I'm sure he's real proud of. Pitt has starred in several successful films including Glorious Basterds, one of my favorites, 2009, World War Z, 2013, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, 2019, of course, Fight Club. That's his most ripped, his most handsome.

[Rich]

I loved him in seven. I thought seven's one of my favorite.

[Covino]

Franchises, movies and it. Dude's a stud. Put it that way.

[Rich]

Yeah, I like that you give him a little props. I read his bio and everything, but we think of Brad Pitt and I always think of Shania Twain. What do you think you are, Brad Pitt? He was the answer to like, yo.

[Covino]

Somehow he just. Well, I think Robert Redford got old and like he became the guy for. Who do you think you are? Brad Pitt or that guy's handsome like Brad Pitt? Brad Pitt became the answer for handsome, synonym for handsome for the last 20 something years in our life.

[Rich]

I mean, we were like, all right, if you like blondes, it was Pam Anderson. If you like brunettes, it was Carmen Electra. But Brad Pitt always remains.

[Covino]

And you like dudes. Brad Pitt.

[Rich]

And you know, now it's like Sydney Sweeney and her.

[Covino]

Well, no, you know what? Now it's just a oversaturated world of who's hot on social media. There's a million good looking people, but Brad Pitt was the guy a lot.

[Sam]

Of women got a taste or a look at. Brad Pitt and for the first time in Thelma and Louise was like one of the first movies he was like he was featured in.

[Covino]

I think that the first look I got a Brad Pitt was he was in my bedroom with my ex wife.

[Rich]

There's that story right?

[Covino]

He was in Robin Givens bedroom. Almost punched him in the face. True story about Mike Tyson walking in on Brad Pitt. Look it up. But anyway, on his birthday we celebrate his 62nd. He's still damn handsome, still ripped. And it makes us think of the greatest leading men, AKA guys that Josh Hart of the Knicks would love to give the dirty fonts to.

[Rich]

Is that the way you're gonna angle this? Well, I think, you know, I think you can angle that question also is like who actually gets you to watch a movie?

[Covino]

Who gets you to the theater?

[Rich]

Like who gets you to the theater if you see, oh, Netflix or Hulu or HBO Max put out a new show or a new movie, they're in it. I. I'm watching. Like who is the. I'm watching because they're in it. It's a good question.

[Covino]

Brad Pitt's one of those guys for sure. Yeah. I mean he's handsome. Women love him. Guys think he's cool. He's celebrating his 62nd. Who are we adding to this list?

[Rich]

We'll take your feedback next. We'll go old school and of course Thursday Night Football tonight. Can't wait to talk about that.

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