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Just like 45 is the new 35. I'm staring down the barrel of a 35. Rich, let me tell you, Thursday's the new Friday. Philip Rivers will tell you. Yeah, 44s the new 34 it is. Even though he's number 17. What's that about? So welcome back to the show. I hope you missed us. We have lots to get to today. Old school win 50 hits. We we reminisce, we throw it back, we tuck some NBA and get you ready for Thursday Night Football. But first, we rock out. Let's go. All right. That is I. That's Rich Davis. That is I. We got Iowa Sam on the ones and twos. That is I. Sam, Danny G. Is our producer. Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit better. I'm a little sniffly. Oh, there he is. Hi, Danny. Oh, hi, Dan. Danny G. Super producing. And you can see the whole show and watch Danny G in the studio. He's handing us these papers we need to read. Danny G. Always doing big things. You could watch us COVINO and RICH FSR on the YouTube channel. COVINO and RICH FSR. In fact, that's where our bonus pod debuts today. Over promised episode 121 with legendary music producer Jimmy Jam, who is all things Minnesota, Minnesota sports. He's a big sports fan and. And he has a cool project going on in tribute to the 40th anniversary of We Are the World. We'll talk to him later today right here on Covino enriched FSR on YouTube. Spotty's here. Dan Byers here. Thank you guys for being here. What did Danny hand me here? Be sure to drink your Ovaltine. Sure to drink your Ovaltine. Ovaltine. It says if you miss any of today's show, catch the podcast on the podcast. Wherever you stream your podcast, Apple Podcast, search Covino Enrich and rate it. 5 stars. And anything less is uncivilized. And like we said, YouTube, watch what you hear. Covino and Rich FSR, yo, and pull up the live chat, man. Cause that's a great place to chop it up and talk some smack. Nobody's safe on the live chat, but feel free to join. Yeah. Let's go, you trolls. Let's have at it. I will say this. I want to start the show by declaring something that I feel like I've always sort of felt a little bit. But after seeing his behavior over the last week. Oh, boy, here it comes. Justin Herbert's just a big weenie. Wow. Justin Herbert, not a fan. And Rich knows weenies. Justin Herbert, I mean, he can make it right. I mean, my opinion, it could be easily changed. But I don't know, I just feel like he's done a few things where I'm like, you know what? The only thing cool about this dude is that he's hooking up with Madison Beer. Well, that's very cool because she's kind of hot. Good for him. Kind of super hot. And. Yeah, but how old is she? I don't wanna sound like a creep. 25. I mean, still 30. I don't know. So you're right. He could make it right. Like C.J. stroud. And we'll explain because there's been two incidents in the past week where you scratch your noggin and say, hey, is Herbert sort of a. Would you call him a weenie? Is he sort of a weenie? Is he a weenus? Is he the lead singer of Weenus? Or did we just catch him at a bad moment? Is he the type of guy that turns on when the cameras are on, but off camera he's really a weenie? No, because on camera he's a weenus. So check it out. Here's what Happened. There's two stories they both tie together. It's about leaving people hanging and just being sort of a mean guy. After the Texans win, CJ Stroud is high fiving people in the crowd. High five. And fans high five. You know, let's be fair about this, though. CJ Stroud did leave our producer, Danny G. Hanging at the Super Bowl a few years ago. So things happen, right? Look, these guys, we gotta. Gotta realize that we don't have any idea, not even close to any idea of what they deal with as far as fandom and kids and people wanting their attention in autographs, but they're no better than anyone else. Don't give me that BS but that is true. You don't know what it's like. Do you know how to behave in public? I do. But guess what? I don't have people bothering me all day long, every day, every time I step out in public. Now, Danny G. Do you want to tell your story real quick about CJ Stroud? Well, I just introduced myself and tried to get him onto our stage during media week at super bowl, and he. He was not having it. He. He, like, blew me off. And then the next couple of guys, media guys who came up to him, he. He was also cold to them. So. And you led with. I'm a big fan and everything. Yeah, I just told him. I said, man, we talk about you on the show a lot, and we pick you. And we were picking him and the Texans, even though he was a rookie that year, we were picking him to go into the playoffs. And so, like. And I didn't overdo it. I was just like, hey, man, we. We like you. We'd like to have you on the show. And he just blew me off. Now, everybody has good moments and bad moments. Everybody has good days and bad days. You don't know what type of mood he was in in that moment. But CJ Stroud was seen high fiving other fans after a win, and he left the owner of the Texans hanging. So, you know, he didn't do that. He didn't do that intentionally. There's no way in the world. He left successful, legendary American businessman and owner of The Texans, Cal McNair, hanging. But you see the footage, and Cal's there waiting for CJ Stroud to high five him. You know, his boss, the guy that pays him, the guy that owns the team. There's no way C. Did that on purpose. But now, no way. Here's the thing. There's a way to make everything right and funny right? Now, what they did was the Houston Texans put together a little funny social media. Their social media team is great. The Texans owner, after getting dissed for the high five. High five. Well, he was literally hanging. Yeah, he was literally left hanging with his hand up with his crooked finger, by the way. And then they zoom in on him and he's just like, the guy just walked right by me. Didn't high five me. He's the owner of the team. And he then continues through his life holding his hand up, doing everything, until he finally, like a day later, through all his trials and tribulations and meals and meeting people, anytime someone tries to touch his hands, I still know that's for C.J. and then he finally bumps into C.J. stroud, and they high five and bro hug. And I think it was just a funny way to address an awkward moment where CJ Stroud didn't mean it. And you know what? It also made the owner look a hell of a lot cooler and less like a weenie that got left hanging completely. That's a masterclass in turning dilemmas into dilemma. They took this really awkward moment of the quarterback appearing to big time the owner, but not. But yes, not. He just missed them. And they made a funny viral social media video out of it that made CJ Stroud look super likable and the owner even more likable. They turned something funny out of this. It became a charming, likable moment. So what happened? He redeems himself even though he stiffed Danny G. It was a likable moment. Does this mean he's gonna come back full circle with us and join the show? A reenactment of our own? I mean, I like this video so much, I'm starting to think, man, maybe he should have dissed Danny G. Like a good guy. So that's one story. And then the other story comes back to Justin Herbert, like we said. Yeah. First one is we saw it. We watched it live. The Chargers win and they kick it down to the field. And Laura Rutledge is trying to get his attention, like, hey, we're going to you for an interview. And he's like, I'm just trying to celebrate with my team. And I totally understand that. And I get that. But as a quarterback in the league, you also have to understand that when someone of the major networks wants to interview you, you're the go to guy. You're the quarterback. You're the spokesman for this moment. Come on, you're on television. And they caught him in a really weird, like, big Time. Moment. That's moment number one, bro. The fans and the billion doll. These networks have to air the games and perpetuate you as a star player. And I, I saw people fighting over this the other day. Back and forth. I go, he doesn't owe anyone anything. Stupid ass interview. What, is he gonna say something? But, but I mean, it's part of the deal, right? Apathy. I just feel like in these moments, and I've said this before, and I'll say it again, I'm so adamant and strong minded on this opinion. You're adamant? Little Goody Two shoes. Goody two shoes. Great song. I'm so adamant that all it takes is for an athlete to be a little endearing to the fans and reporters. And I feel like people notice. All he has to do is smile. I even noticed when athletes address the reporter by name, he's like, hey, Laura, if he call, we'll call the right first name. And then at the end he's like, if he was like, hey, Charger fan, thanks for coming out. That was what, that's what the Mets will miss with Pete Alonso. Pete Alonso would, at the end of all his little post games, would always, hey, fans, thanks for coming out. Let's. Let's F and go, Mets. Thank you. Guys. Like, Oriole fans are going to love them. Oriole fans are in for a treat. But I just think that. So strike one. But you know what was really significant about this moment? Again, we're talking about the Monday Night Football game. Chargers beat the Eagles. This was real and in the moment. And you saw how he is. Absolutely. You saw. No, not even that. Real time, bro. You saw how he really is. And then when the camera was on, even though he was sort of short in the moment, he turned it on a little bit. He turned on his bs. Saw it. Yeah, he turned on. And you saw. He went into his BS script of like, well, you know, the defense did their part, you know, the coaching and this and that. And he's like, you're done. You got the BS you need. All right? And he didn't even say, yeah, yeah, he just walked. I really, even though I don't agree with the way he handled that situation, I do want to say that we have no idea what their days consist of. We cannot relate at all. Don't act like it's tough to be kind to people. Yeah, but, dude, it's not just people. It's more people than you've ever. I mean, there's 50,000 people there who want to meet him, right. Just win a game. You spent your whole life playing peewee football to the pros. You win a Monday night game in overtime. I have to say it, man, for fairness, man. You know what? When Rich and I have big events and conventions and there's a few hundred people there, we're overwhelmed. Imagine being a quarterback in the NFL where everybody wants to pierce your attention, but don't tell me in the moment on Monday Night Football where you win in overtime, you can't give 20 seconds of smiles and happiness to ESPN and ABC's main reporter. That's there. I agree. To me, that's part of the gig. Right. To me, like that should be a standard understanding that the quarterback or any star player has to deal with. That's a small place to pay to live the dream. Now you might say Rich Cavino, Danny G. This story is a couple day old days old. What are you talking about? Well, there's like a part two now because. Yeah, remember, we really didn't harp on this until we saw another clip this week. Just yesterday, another clip went viral. And I sort of saw it everywhere. And I think it's gone viral because it does. It sort of continues that narrative of what we saw on Monday Night Football. And I wondered, and I told you guys this last night when we were talking about this clip. I wondered if it was people piling on because of what happened after Monday night's game. I think it just adds that fuel to the fire. Yeah. Truthfully, if you were in court, this would just be exhibit B. And it's obviously very clear footage of Justin Herbert sort of big time at a kid who like wanted him to sign something, by the way. Such a cute little kid. And I felt so bad for his face. Yeah. And the dad's like, he'll take his hat off because he's wearing the opposing. No, he's wearing teams hat. He's wearing an Eagles hat and jeans. He wanted a picture. He wanted. He just wanted to see. He wanted a wave. I'm sure he wanted a picture. But even if he waved at Justin Herbert, let's put it in perspective, man. I've seen a lot of people talk about this and there's so many things I agree with. You don't have to be a fan of the Chargers to. As a kid, as a kid especially to want to get his attention and have the thrill. A little way from Justin Herbert would have made that kid's. I don't want to say his life, but they would have made his whole year that Justin Herbert Acknowledged him even though he's an Eagle. Well, let me, let me give you an example of this. You guys know me now. We've done this show. You and I have been friends for decades, but we've been on Fox Sports Radio for years. You know that I'm a die hard Mets fan. Mm. The first player that ever gave me attention wasn't a Met. I went down on the field. I've told the story before. Not on the field. I was. I went down batting practice, was hanging by the opposing dugout, just, you know, taking a look. You're a little like 8 year old, 9 year old kid peeking your head around. And San Diego Padre Bip Roberts took the time to say, hey kid, what's your name? Signed the baseball for me. Give me a little pat on the back. And I went back to my seat. I remember having that dude's baseball card. And I was like, bip Roberts is the coolest. So to me, professional athletes hold an incredible power and almost duty to duty to boost these kids. Kids idolize these athletes. We all did. So when he big times this little kid, even though he was an opposing fan, that rubbed me the wrong way. I think it rubs everybody the wrong way. And again, it was caught on camera. And he's a cute little kid and you feel so bad for him. I hate this clip. I really do. It bothers me. But we brought up the CJ Stroud story for a reason. Because I think Justin Herbert needs to redeem himself. That's. I'll tell you what's too many for this guy in one week. If you want to. You want to do the whole, hey, you could catch someone a bad day, maybe a second one. Yo, Justin Herbert, you might have one more strike with a lot of people. Yo. Or he needs to like get this kid on an Instagram video stat. He needs to do something. I'm serious. Because he's a young player, people want to root for him. People speak highly of Justin Herbert. I want to like Justin Herbert. I don't want to not like him. And I feel bad. I think he needs to do some good PR to fix it. He needs to go get coffee with Laura, Laura Rutledge and then go take this kid to go see Zootopia 2 or something. Good. I heard Herbert the last time he was on with our very own Colin Cowher heard. And he seems cool and down to earth when he's talking with Colin. But what's that? He does. What do you. You know what it is? I'll give you one. We've had guests on our show. Right. I'll give you an example. Jeremy Piven, everyone that we talk to from Entourage. I thought you meant the politician. No, I know. People know who Jeremy Piven is, though. Judgment Night From. From serendipity, from. What else? You're giving people way too much credit. Jeremy Piven. Pcu. Pcu. No, you. We're not gonna protest Jeremy Piven. Everyone's like, yo, what a d. What a jerk. I mean, how is Piven? He definitely comes with a reputation of being a jerk. We were like, yo, he was the nicest, coolest dude to us. He was. I mean, multiple times, by the way. And we have nothing bad to say. In fact, I love Jeremy Piven. Was he as nice as Jay Z? Nicer. Jay Z. What year was this? Jay Z refused to take a picture with us. I'll never forget that. Like, we did an interview with Jay Z, and Kavina was like, yo. Yo, quick. Jay's like, nah. He's like, nah. And I was like, for real? Nah, dog. I even gave him the for real. He's like, yeah, nah. When did you experience nice Jeremy Piven? Like, multiple times over the last decade or so. Every time, because he's had some things in his career happen where he's had, I think, to kind of reassess the situation. Yeah. Well, here's my thought. I was. Sam. People say, well, really, he was nice. And then I'm like, well, let's. Let's be honest. He was coming on our show to promote something he was doing. He's not going to lead with a hole behavior to people that are giving him a platform, that are being kind to him. So we would be a bad gauge. So when you say, well, Justin Herbert's really cool with Colin Cowherd, you don't say, he's kind to the most popular, you know, sports talking head on Fox. Well, no, because we. But. But, Rich, there are some athletes where you can tell their douchery even when they're being interviewed by a media member. Yeah, but this sign of one's true character. How are you when the cameras are off? How do you treat. That aren't important. They always say, like, a good assessment. How do you treat the help at a restaurant? How do you. How do you treat a waiter? I was. How do you treat Laura Rutledge? How do you treat Laura Rutledge when the cameras are off? Right. These are signs of one's character. And we saw two moments. We let it slide with the Rutledge story, with the kid I can't. These are two moments in one week, Herbert. I can't let it slide. Herbert, redeem yourself. I just want to play devil's advocate. This second clip that we're now looking at, could there be something that we don't have all the context? Yeah, because if there's part two where he's like, just kidding, kid, come here. Not that part, but he's up. It looks like he's in a suite with either family members or friends or something, and he's kind of turned around. Looks like he's busy. Okay, so shame on all those adults, because that's what I'm saying. Let's say you were Justin Herbert, right? And you're there with your friends and family. You don't have a friend or family to keep you in check and say, oh, hey, kid. Hold on. Who get. Hey, Justin. Justin, say. Say hi to the kid real quick. Just wave to him. Someone to make it right for the kid. These are kids, man. Herbert is a jerk for this, and I'm not taking it back. I'm not gonna say. I'm gonna say, it appears jerky. There might be more jerk. I'm keeping it fair. Rich is the bad guy here. I give everyone a chance. We always say, three strikes are out. Good cop, bad cop. Over here. Well, you know why, Sam? Because I truly do believe, no matter how bad it looks, and it does, because I hated this clip. We don't know what it's like to be in his cleats. We don't know what else is going on. For all we know, he could have been in the middle of a really serious conversation. What important. What could be so important that Justin Herbert could be doing that he can't take 10 seconds? Yo. Hey, kid. What's up? The kid's face breaks my heart, dude. So, to me, Justin Herbert is a royal A hole until he proves differently. To me, it's two weeks from today, from Christmas. Is he going to be on the naughty list? Is he going to get Cole in his stocking? He still has time to make things right. In fact, I hope Justin Herbert. I hope the Chargers make the playoffs just so he fails miserably. He's on the Naughty list. I'm a Chargers fan. Moving forward, he's on the naughty list until the wild card round when he, you know, doesn't show up again. Hey, Rich, let me ask you this before we take some phone calls on it. And I'm sure you have experiences and stories and takes. Guys, you're always welcome. 8, 7, 99 on Fox. We'd love to hear your feedback and thoughts on this. Again, I'll give you two examples of the outside of it. C.J. stroud made it right. He. Big time. The owner by mistake, obviously. Justin Herbert needs to make this right. He doesn't, but. No, I think he does. He could just be a really good football player because it's not a. Not a really personable, cool dude. Not everyone's cool, man. What makes someone cool? That the only. The only reason there are cool people is because not everyone's cool. Because if everyone was cool, then how would you distinguish, like, you know, I'm saying, like, when you're like, yeah, he's a cool guy. I promise you, not everyone's cool. What does he need to do to make it right? Send this kid some Christmas presents? No. What? Nothing. Good. Human. No, with it. With this kid or even. Even Laura Rutledge. I just. I don't know, remember where he came from. Okay, I have a question. I like. Have you guys. Have you guys seen the clip where Shaq. Some kid runs up to Shaq, like, maybe goes under, like, a stanchion and hugs Shaq's leg? Yeah, he was hugging my leg. And there were some guards that quickly checked. They're like, get this kid away. And Shaq's like, no, no, no. And Shaq, like, hugs the kid. In that moment, I'm like, that's why Shaq is Shaq. Can I tell you a story about this? That is why Shaq is Shaq. This ties in Rich to what you're saying. And you know who else? A great guy. Let me just throw one more prop. Sure. Sure. He's been on our show a few times, but off the air is where he's impressed me most. I hate it that he's on a team that I don't like, but is there a better dude than Pook in the coa. Oh, he's awesome. Why? You could root for him. I can't. I'm a ninerson. Yeah. I can't root for him. I can root for his personal guy. I could root for him, but not the Rams. But here's the impact I'm talking about, okay? And how much it means to a kid. You guys remember. You. You remember what it was like to be a kid, to be acknowledged by a hero. Maybe he never had that moment, but I'm gonna tell you firsthand how it felt. I've told this story before. I was on Rockefeller Center, Fifth Avenue, right around there. Fifth Avenue or sixth. My parents took me To New York City to see the tree, the Christmas tree in Rockefeller Center, New York City. And I was a little kid, maybe like nine years old, and I couldn't believe my eyes. It was Sugar Ray Leonard. Now, this is in the 80s. No one bigger than Sugar Ray Leonard. Franklin spokesman. He was in every commercial. My family, a big boxing family, like this guy transcended boxing. He was all over the place. Sugar Ray Leonard was the guy. I saw him there in New York City, and he saw me looking at him like that. So he's like, this little kid is trying to get my attention. He calls me over into his entourage, put his hand around me, walking down the street like, man, you a big fan of boxing? I'm like, I am. Yeah. Sugar lady. And that's why Covino, till this day, brings up weak boxing matches every weekend. Yo, but my point is. And no one bigger than him at that time. So he started you saying, this is the fight of the year. Fight of the year, bro. Fight of the year. But the impact it had. How cool. I felt like I was floating down Fifth Avenue to be acknowledged by a guy that was so popular and famous. I had never seen a famous person, I think, ever in my life, you know, And I'll never forget it. And I got to tell him that story on our show, which is full circle. But, you know, the impact that athletes have on kids is unmeasurable. Never forget that. That's the point, the impact they have. I'm just saying, side by side. I want you to watch it. It would last a lifetime. When you have a second, I want you to watch side by side interviews and tell me what athlete should do, how they should carry themselves. Fernando mendoza after Indiana 1. That was awesome. And then Justin Herbert after an overtime win. That's like, such a contrast, or as you love to say to sound smart, juxtaposition. Such a contrast. Don't make fun of me because my SAT scores are juxtaposition, you say. Because you just learned that word two weeks ago. Get the hell out of here. So what's up, Spot? Hey, Spot, offer one devil's advocate or counterpoint to this? Yeah. Because for Justin Herbert specifically, okay, part of the story is that his girlfriend, Madison Beer, and her family. So her brother and I think her brother and her mother were at the game. Yeah. So when the kid was approaching. He was approaching one of the suites. So I believe it's very possible that Justin Herbert was talking with his girlfriend's family at the time and. And maybe was like, even worse after the game. Maybe he was trying to wrap up quickly so he go see his girlfriend's family. Imagine you with. Dude. Imagine if you with your girlfriend's parents and some little kids like, Mr. Herbert. Like, hey, Justin Herbert. And in front of your future in laws, like, get out of here. Rich tips strangers to come up and pretend like they know who he is. Oh, you made it even better, Spot. Thank you. What's up? Are we sure that he even said it? Because that doesn't sound like his language. Honestly. Like, it doesn't sound like Justin Herbert would use that language especially towards a kid. And it sounded like whoever said it was kind of saying it. Like everyone was sort of laughing, like, not that bleeping hat on. And like everyone's like, aha. And then even the kid ran up, he was like, hey, he told me to stick it. And he was like in mid hug as it was happening. I think somebody else said it. Now whether he ignored the kid, that's his own problem. But I don't know if he actually said that line to that kid. Yeah, I didn't think that was him saying it either. It's more fun for me to stick by. I hate Justin Herbert from this point. Yeah, you can't bail on the take now. I can't bail on the takedown. I hate. I. I hate Justin Herbert. You've gone too far. I've gone too far. I hope he throws four interceptions in a playoff game. I'm just gonna sit here, eat jelly beans, and continue. All right, so, yeah, where those jelly beans come from? What could he do to redeem himself? Do you hold it against him? And let's all remember that, you know, you're a kid one time, you have such. Even if you're not a Justin Herbert, you have so much influence on these kids and so much impact. And you're right, Rich. If he was with his girlfriend's family, how much cooler would he have looked if he said, hey, guys, one second. Hey, little guy. Hey, you're an Eagles fan, huh? Well, you're a Charters fan now. Here you go, man. Have a great. Hey, you play football? Yeah, I do. Hey, go get him, kid. How much cooler would he have looked if he did that in front of her family? So think about it. All right? Well, we wouldn't have piled up if it was a one and done story. We wouldn't have piled on. This is twice in one week. And I'm in a feisty mood today. So Rich is in a feisty. You got me on the wrong day, Justin Herbert. Yeah. What If I was a kid and came up to you after their show and you told me to kick rocks and pound Sam, then I would expect because I'm in a mood today. I'll never do that to a kid though, man. Ever. Yeah, please. I'm. I'm talking about. I mean just saying Rich, it could be the worst day of your life and if I came up to you on the street, you'd still probably be nice to me. Dude, I have to likely guess what it's sad story likely have to put down my dog this weekend and I'm still in a good mood because it's not your been a tough week. It's not your tough week for not your problem that I'm going through something. Right. Yeah. And by the way, I want to say hi to Leon. You know who Leon is? Leon Bip Roberts. Thank you, Bip Roberts. You made a difference. All right, we got more Kavino and Rich next right here on Fox Sports Radio. 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That's P L-U-V-I-C-T-O.com and Doug, what a horrible call. Hey, ref. Open your eyes. Ref. You're really not gonna call that? Come on. Hey, ref, why don't you customize your car insurance with Liberty Mutual and save money? I don't think you get what we're doing. Sure I do. We're all just giving him advice. You guys on sports, me on saving money. Nope, that's not it. Only pay for what you need@liberty mutual.com. liberty, liberty, liberty. Herbert's on the naughty list. Sorry to say it, he's getting a lump of turd in his stocking. Based on what we're seeing. You know a guy like Joey Elmo is on. Our feedback is like, boo hoo. He doesn't want to do an interview. Hey, Joey, how about this Guy acts like a pro. Yeah, well, you can't do. Comes with the territory, comes with the job. You can't do D bag things and then say you're not a D bag. It's like, well, you're doing D bag things. You know, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt of saying we don't know what he's going through. And maybe these are bad moments, but there's two in one week at the same time. I don't know what it's like to be Justin Herbert, but I do know that I'll never snub a kid. A kid that's a fan. I'm wildly, I'm wildly shocked that anyone defends this. Like, look in here. William Kreider said, why does Herbert have to be on for the 30 seconds of post game? That's part of the job, you nimrod. I think so. And in fact, it is. Like, you have to deal with press. It's part of the gig. It's part of the job. Remember, like, athletes have to talk to the broadcast company that just telecast your game. So. And you know, the company that pays billions of dollars to, like I said, to partner up at the league you're in, which is, you know, in turn part of the reason why these guys are paid so much money. It's like when I don't understand how, when people at iHeart or Sirius XM or any company are like, I don't want to deal with salespeople. It's like, do you mean the people that sell your show? You mean how we generate income and revenue? Well, guess what? If you disagree, you know, we like to chop it up and include everybody. 87799 on Fox. We'll take your phone calls. We're talking C.J. stroud. He redeemed himself. Justin Herbert. Two bad stories in one week. We're live from the FOX Sports Radio studio. And have you heard about trainer games? And you could add this to your binge list. 10 athletes go head to head for the chance to win an IFIT trainer contract worth $250,000 streaming on Prime Video starting January 8th. Again, we're Covino and Rich. You know what, Rich? Before we go to all the feedback and all the phone calls, I'm reading the feedback like, Esteban, you guys are so really. Wow. Damn. What's up, Dan? By harsh critics you're dealing with there. Absolutely. Guys, week 15 starts tonight. It's the Falcons and Buccaneers, 8:15 Eastern Time. We expect to see Mike Evans come back from his broken clavicle. Different injury to talk about in the NFL. Steelers edge rusher T.J. watt actually spent the night in the hospital overnight. He was dealing with a lung issue in practice on Wednesday, the Steelers released a statement saying that he was not going to practice today and his status for Monday's game against the Dolphins is up in the air. Dolphins running back Devon Hn limited in practice with rib injury. Packers running back Josh Jacobs missed another workout today. He's dealing with a sore knee. Cowboys wide receiver CD Lamb a full participant, while Bengals wide receiver T. Higgins, limited in practice, fired. Michigan Ed. Coach Sharon Moore remains behind bars and is scheduled to appear in front of a judge tomorrow following his detainment yesterday in Ann Arbor, Michigan. The Washington County Prosecutor's Office released a statement saying, quote, the matter involving Mr. Moore remains under active investigation. End quote. Every Olympic dream starts with a first glide through. Learn to Skate USA kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a program near you@ learntoskateusa.com Braves and former Padres reliever Robert Suarez have agreed to terms on a three year deal worth $45 million. Back to you fellas. Thank you, Dan Beyer. Thanks, Dan. Hey, you know what he was talking about? Every skate begins with that first glide. Yeah. Isn't it a weird thought that we all had our first throw, our first swing? Yeah. And there's no proof of that, no evidence, nothing. But you know what? But there is a first. Our first shot. A lot of you think you made your first shot in a basket. In this generation, though, a lot of those things are captured. Right? Yeah. I mean, I was gonna say yeah. But then they're lost in a file for no, because you're seeing like TikTok trends where it's like, like, like your kid, you know, it's like a kid playing T ball and then he's playing like college baseball. And what's that trend where moms are holding their. I had a frozen rope. My first ever swing. I was 2 years old. I don't think that. You know what I'm roll with it. Yeah, yeah, but have you seen that trend where. Prove me otherwise. Have you seen that trend where moms are holding their kids for the last time? What? What do you mean? Oh, oh, like one last time because they know it's not going to happen. Well, I guess the trend is like, you played Danny G. You played Wiffle ball with your neighborhood friends for the last time and didn't know it. You rode Your bike, Iowa Sam. Around your Iowa neighborhood with all your old schoolhood friends for the last time. I jumped on my pogo ball one last time. Yeah, you had one last at bat, and you didn't real. You don't really remember it, right? I didn't even know it was the last one. The joke is, moms don't realize they held their kid. They hold their kids for the last time and don't realize it. So all these moms are going up to, like, their teenage boys, like, all right, I'm gonna try to hold you one last time. One last time. Rich, you were in your last musical, and you had no idea. Yeah, me and my. Oh, but I. But I have footage. He was a great Little Orphan Annie. Shut up. All right, let's go to Vermont. And, Dave, let's go to all your phone calls. Justin Herbert. I'm being tough on him only because I know it doesn't cost anything to be kind. And the Lauren Rutledge thing, free pass. But then he's, like, a little rude to a kid. I'm like, justin Herbert, you're too good of a player. Step it up, man. It's not hard to be kind. I think the Rutledge thing is just as bad, though, because it shows that he puts on some weird fake facade. You know, what is. You know when you see some real piece of trash woman or guy, and then I'll give you a great example. There'll be some dirt bag guido in your hometown. And then you see him in mass on Christmas Eve, like, Christmas Eve church. And everyone's like, oh, Johnny's a great guy. Like, he's a garbage bag. This guy's. He's a loser. But because he goes to church on Christmas Eve, he's nice. John punches homeless people. And then you see him at church, and he's like, peace be with you. Peace be with you. I'm just saying. I'm not saying Justin Herbert punching you, but what I'm saying is Justin Herbert was rude. And then when the camera's on, he's like, hey, I want to thank the defense. And this. I just thought he was fake as could be. What's up, Dave? Hey, Dave. Hey. Hey. What's up, guys? Rich, sorry to hear about your dog, man. That's totally brutal. Thanks, man. Yeah, it sucks. Yeah, absolutely. Hey, so Justin Herbert. I'm all right with him doing that thing to the reporter. That's whatever. No one's really watching that. Unless you're a fan of the team that just won, I think. But the kid. You can't. You can't snub kids, man. I'm 40 years old and I'm from Vermont. We don't have pros up here ever, like, professional athletes. When I was a little kid. John Leclaire. I don't know if you know John LeClaire, but United States, first United States born player to score 50 plus goals three years in a row. Absolute dog. He's like one of our guys up here. I was a little kid walking into Applebee's. He was walking out. My dad goes, hey, John, this is my son, Dave. He came over, hey, Dave. Shook my hand. That dude's mitts were so big. But I'm 40 years old. My point is, you remember that. Exactly. Let's go to David in Seattle. What's up, David? Awesome call. Thank you. Oh, hey. Hey, guys. So what I want to do, I want to offer a public apology to Donny Mattingly. Sorry, Mr. Baseball. I called him a butthead probably about 35 years ago because he wouldn't sign a ball for me outside the Kingdome. And you know, I was in the wrong and I didn't know any better. So I got a side with Justin Herbert on this one. Sometimes the timing ain't right. No, no. You were a little kid, Donnie. Baseball was wrong. You're a little kid outside the Kingdom and Donnie Basil is like, got no time. And he, what, he would go back to touching his mustache or something. You were right. Tripp in Vegas. What's up, Trip? Hey, guys. A statement and a question. And I got a quick story. The statement is, you guys go out of your. I've been around y' all public settings. Y' all go out of your way. You are handing out gift bags to all your guests. So you guys are the most gener. You know why the trip? It's not simply because Rich and I are the greatest guys of all time. And Rich and I, it costs nothing to be kind, but we. Justin Herbert. Anybody out there in the public eye would be nothing without support and without the fans. This is who you're playing for, man. It's like. It's like an artist on stage not thanking people for liking their music. But guess how many people, celebrities, high profile people, forget that or take it for granted. That's my point. Justin Herbert. You guys remind yourself of that every day. Justin Herbert, take this as a reminder. I was hard on you, but you're too good of a player. You're a young star in the league. Just be nice to everyone. I actually believe he is a good guy. I do. And I believe because he's a young guy living a great life. What is he angry about? He's got everything going for him. I believe he is a good guy with great discipline. And I think we just caught two bad moments. But I think he needs to make it right. Cause he doesn't need this bad press. What else, Tripp make it. We got a break, so make it snappy. Hey, my question real quick is Kavina for you. Was that when your mother took the picture but didn't have film in the camera? It was great memory, man. When we met Sugar Ray Leonard for that first time, my mom had a freak out. Smile, Steven, smile. Oh, my God. Sugar Ray Leonard smile. She followed us down fifth Avenue and we got home and there was no film in the camera. There is no film in this camera. But we read that Wayne World style reenacted the photo years later when he was on my show. I don't know, I might go as far to say I don't know if it happened. I don't know. You could have dreamt all that super, super quick Lance in Nashville. Because I want to move on after the break. So, Lance, go ahead. Boys. You guys crack me up. Every afternoon I'm driving home. I just got to say thank you for that. Thank you. I am going to come to. I am going to come to the fence for my boy Justin. Let's be real. I feel like it's that scene from Mr. Deeds where like he saves the cats and the lady from the fire. And then all of a sudden everybody spins it because he. He's doing something wrong. Like cut the guy some spot. You know what got these seven. He just got through seven car accidents. And then imagine you trying to get interviewed after you get sacked seven times. Your offense stunk. Your kicker just became the most efficient kicker in the history. And now you guys, like, it's not his place, let's do it. Well, you know, that's why I said, great point. You know, he made me think of something else too with that Mr. Deeds clip. Remember in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom? Short rounds kicking that Indian kid's ass and he saves Indiana Jones. What does he say? Hey, Short round, quit playing around with that kid. Get down here. Meanwhile, he just saved his life. More C and R next on fsr. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU pop. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance, echo, drum beat. Everybody showing that school pride game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola, that's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going. 10 athletes will face the toughest job interview in fitness that will push past physical and mental breaking points. You are the fittest of the fit. Only one of you will leave here with an IFIT contract worth $250,000. This is where mindset comes in. Someone will be eliminated. Pressure is coming down. This is trainer games. Watch it on prime video starting January 8th. This is Richard Sherman from the Richard Sherman podcast. Ready or not is the tactical first person shooter where you take command of a SWAT team and every decision matters. I reunited with my Legion of Boom teammates Cam Chancellor, Cliff Favreau, Michael Bennett, and Walter Thurman to go through real SWAT training and see why over 13 million players are into this game. Watch our training now at Richard Sherman Podcast YouTube channel. This isn't mindless running gun. The game demands elite teamwork and sharp strategic thinking. Just like what the Legion of Boom brought to the field every single game. Try the limited time free trial on PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series X and S. Play now and feel the weight of the badge. You know what I always say, Pressure makes diamonds. Whether it's on the court or in life, when things get tough, you've got to step up. That's right. And if you or someone you love is dealing with metastatic prostate cancer, stepping up means knowing your options. There's a treatment called Pluvicto, Lutetium Lu177, Vapipatide Tetraxitan and it's worth talking about. Pluvicto isn't chemo. 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Side effects include decreased blood cell counts, tiredness, dry mouth, nausea, appetite loss, joint or back pain, and constipation. Look, this isn't about being tough. It's about being present. It's about being there for the moments that matter, both big and small. So if you're in the fight or know someone who is, ask your doctor about Plovicto. Because when the pressure's on, you don't fold. You find a way. Visit pluvicto.com to learn more. That's P L-U-V-I-C-T O.com and Doug, there's nowhere I wouldn't go to help someone customize and save on car insurance with Liberty Mutual. Even if it means means playing in a football game. Boom. 42. You're going down, Doug. Oh, yeah. Your price on car insurance when you customize and save is going down. Hey, limu, what are you doing on their team? Only pay for what you need@libertymutual.com Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Liberty. Ho ho ho. Would you call me? Welcome to the show Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Now next hour, old school and 50 hits. We reminisce, we throw it back. And do you want to talk about number 17, Daniel Jones? No, no. Number 17. Number 17, Philip Rivers. I have thoughts on that. But as you play Frosty the Snowman, if you got little kids, people love the claymation. Rudolph, people love the Grinch. Or you know, you know by far, happy birthday. Frosty's the best by far. All right, well, we're live from the Fox Sports radio studio. And it's time for our tire rack play of the day. SGA didn't need to play in yet another fourth quarter because of plays like this in the third. Shay down the lane, blows by Williams. Lays it up left handed. Lays it in. Slithering inside of the shop locker. Timeout, Sons. OKC is channeling that shark smelling blood in the water, baby. Geez. Are they gonna win 75 games? Courtesy of WWLS Thunder Radio Network. That was your tyrack play of the game. Now they're gonna take on the spurs in the cup semis. For over 40 years, Tirek's been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Free installation. They got road Hazard protection all@ Tire Act.com the way tire buying should be. Speaking of SGA and the OKC 24 and 1 the Wall Street Journal today. You know I'm a big fan. I read every every day saying quite could be the greatest NBA team of all time. Something we'll get to next. Albert, look at the clock. We're running late. Old school. When 50 hits, there's a Sir. Yeah. What we gonna do right here is go back back into time. Throwing it back for a Thursday. Old school when 50 hits at 50 after C& R. Give you the time capsule topic and we reminisce together. Yeah. Yeah. All right, so we'll set up now and we'll get into it next. There was a meme. Danny G, our super producer, found the viral meme and it got us thinking. It ties into old man Rivers, Daniel Jones and Philip Rivers. Things you could no longer be doing after 40. You can see the meme I'm holding it up here. Covino Rich, FSR or should no longer be doing things you should no longer be doing after 40. Like, I don't know, starting quarterback at 44. Then again, Tom Brady did it successful. So certain things you can no longer do. Rich. Hmm. What should you no longer be doing based on experience? Maybe fear holding you back after 40. Like I'll give you an easy one. Go into the club. Cause it's an obvious one. Because as Chris Rock famously said, never wanna be the old guy at the club. I have a weird feeling he's not that old. He's too old for a club. I can't say I haven't in the last few years, but I almost feel weird going to any adult gentleman's club after 40 because you realize the girls are like half your age and you feel sort of craz creepy about it. Oh, you know. Start your list. What are things you can't do after 40? We'll get to that. Plus more NFL and some NBA coming up. What a matchup we got, y'. All. This is that classic HBCU vibe. Non stop action. The band is rocking and the crowd lit. Chance echo, drum beat everybody. Showing that school pride. A game like this. Yeah, it calls for an ice cold Coca Cola. Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there. Yeah, that taste always hits the right note. Just like the band at halftime. And just like that, we're back at it. Passionate fans, school colors everywhere. And in ice cold Coca Cola. That's a winning combo. No matter the sport, no matter the yard. Everybody knows fan Work is thirsty work. So grab a Coca Cola and keep that HBCU pride going. Hey, it's Covino and Rich. Running a business is hard enough. Don't make it harder with a dozen apps that don't talk to each other. One for sales, one for inventory, a separate one for accounting. That's software overload. Odoo is the all in one platform that replaces them all. CRM, accounting, inventory, E commerce, hr. Fully integrated, easy to use and built to grow with your business. 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