The Dan Patrick Show (C&R Takeover): “Is Justin Herbert a Big Weenie?”

Date: December 12, 2025
Hosts: Covino & Rich (C&R)
Network: iHeartPodcasts / Dan Patrick Podcast Network

Overview

In this lively episode, Covino & Rich debate Justin Herbert’s image after a series of awkward public moments that have some dubbing him a “big weenie.” The hosts dissect recent incidents involving Herbert and compare his behavior to that of other sports figures, all while mixing humor, nostalgia, and sports culture commentary. Listener calls add depth to the conversation about athlete responsibility, fan interaction, and the power of small gestures.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Is Justin Herbert a "Big Weenie"? (12:40–13:45)

• Rich starts the show by boldly declaring, “Justin Herbert’s just a big weenie.” (13:10)
• The guys clarify: opinions can shift, but Herbert’s recent conduct—particularly toward fans, media, and a young kid—raises questions.
• “The only thing cool about this dude is that he’s hooking up with Madison Beer.” — Rich (14:05)
• Explores the power athletes have to shape perception and why small interactions matter.

2. CJ Stroud’s High-Five Miss & Redemption (15:35–21:55)

• Discusses CJ Stroud’s accidental high-five snub towards Texans owner Cal McNair after a win.
• Producer Danny G. shares a story of being “dissed” by Stroud at a previous Super Bowl.
  • “I was just like, hey man, we like you... and he just blew me off.” — Danny G. (17:30)
• The Texans turn the missed high-five into a viral, self-deprecating, and ultimately redemptive social media moment, making both Stroud and McNair more relatable.
  • “That’s a masterclass in turning dilemmas into dilemma!” — Covino (20:54)
• Contrasts Stroud’s ability to redeem himself with Herbert’s lack of similar gestures.

3. Justin Herbert’s Series of “Big Timing” Moments (21:56–38:15)

A. TV Interview Snub

• After a Chargers win, Herbert is seen ignoring Laura Rutledge’s ESPN interview attempt, stating, “I’m just trying to celebrate with my team.”
• C&R debate the expectation of star quarterbacks: Postgame TV hits are “part of the gig.”
  • “As a quarterback in the league, you have to understand...you’re the spokesman for this moment.” — Rich (24:40)
  • “Come on, you're on television!” — Covino (24:21)
• The hosts stress a little warmth and endearment on camera can change everything, even a simple smile or using the reporter’s name.

B. Ignoring a Young Fan

• A viral video shows Herbert snubbing a young fan (in an Eagles hat) looking for a brief acknowledgment.
• Rich shares a personal story about being valued by a player as a kid (Bip Roberts of the Padres), emphasizing the lifelong influence such moments can have (32:14).
  • “All it takes is for an athlete to be a little endearing to the fans and reporters. And I feel like people notice.” — Rich (25:54)
  • “To me, professional athletes hold an incredible power and almost duty to boost these kids...” — Rich (32:46)
• The guys critique Herbert for missing a chance at a “PR save,” pointing out that even if the fan wore an opposing team’s gear, a tiny effort would have made a world of difference.

C. Should Herbert Make Amends?

• Consensus: two negative moments in one week is too many; Herbert should seek to redeem himself, perhaps by reaching out to the snubbed kid in a public or viral way.
• “Herbert, redeem yourself. That’s all. Too many for this guy in one week.” — Covino (36:25)
• The value of sincerity vs. “good PR” in athletes is debated.
  • “He needs to go get coffee with Laura Rutledge and then go take this kid to see Zootopia 2 or something.” — Rich (38:10)

4. Athletes’ Off-Camera vs. On-Camera Persona (38:16–43:10)

• C&R compare Herbert to athletes and celebrities who act differently off-camera (references to Jeremy Piven and Jay-Z).
• Discuss how some are only nice when it benefits them, while true character is measured by how they treat those who can “do nothing for them.”
  • “The sign of one's true character: How are you when the cameras are off?” — Covino (41:17)
• Discuss the importance of being genuine, referencing how interviews sometimes show the “real” athlete.

Listener Calls & Real-Life Stories (1:05:16–1:23:40)

• Callers share experiences of being acknowledged or snubbed by athletes as kids, reinforcing the long-term impact (1:11:30, Dave from Vermont).
  • “I’m 40 years old...and I remember when John LeClair shook my hand as a kid.” — Dave (1:12:10)
• Some defend Herbert, saying “sometimes the timing ain’t right” (1:13:30), while others argue athletes should always try to be kind, especially to children.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Athlete Responsibility

  • “To me, like that should be a standard understanding...That’s a small price to pay to live the dream.” — Rich (29:05)

• On Small Gestures

  • “A little wave from Justin Herbert would have made that kid’s—maybe not his life—but it would have made his whole year.” — Covino (31:48)

• On Real vs. Fake

  • “We let it slide with the Rutledge story, but with the kid I can’t...these are two moments in one week, Herbert. I can’t let it slide.” — Rich (42:13)

• On Fame’s Influence

  • “Professional athletes hold an incredible power and almost duty to boost these kids...the impact they have is unmeasurable. Never forget that.” — Covino (34:00)

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Justin Herbert “Big Weenie” declaration: 13:10
• CJ Stroud owner high-five miss explained: 15:35–21:55
• Herbert Laura Rutledge interview snub: 24:21–29:14
• Herbert ignores young fan: 31:48–38:15
• Calls for Herbert to redeem himself: 36:25–38:10
• Discussion on athletes’ true character: 38:16–43:12
• Listener stories & call-ins: 1:05:16–1:23:40

Tone & Style

Throughout, Covino & Rich balance informed sports analysis with humor and a dose of nostalgia. They riff on cultural moments, poke fun at themselves, and interact warmly with listeners. The tone is energetic, candid, and often irreverent—mirroring the “barbershop debate” vibe.

Conclusion

The episode looks beyond Xs and Os, focusing on personality, humanity, and the small but lasting moments that shape fans’ relationships with athletes. C&R ultimately challenge Justin Herbert to show more heart off the field, reminding all in the public eye: a little kindness goes a long way—especially when the cameras aren’t rolling.