C&R - Polar Bird Pete, Jumpin' Ship

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show (Covino & Rich)

Episode: “Polar Bear Pete, Jumpin' Ship”
Date: December 11, 2025
Hosts: Covino & Rich (with super producer Danny G, Dan Beyer on updates, and callers)
Main Theme:
A comedic, passionate deep-dive into the enormous changes shaking up MLB, particularly the exodus of Mets stars Pete Alonso and Edwin Diaz. The broader, soul-searching question: What could ever make a fan “jump ship” and abandon their team? The episode is rich with hot takes, personal confessions, caller stories, and signature humor, all colored by the pain of a down-on-their-luck Mets fan.

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Episode Overview

The show opens amid breaking MLB news: the Mets’ franchise player Pete Alonso signs with the Orioles, hot on the heels of Edwin Diaz joining the Dodgers. Rich, a lifelong Mets faithful, is in full despair, contemplating the rare but real-world question: What would it actually take to make a devoted sports fan leave their team behind? Listeners call in with their own tales of loyalty and betrayal, while Covino, Rich, and the crew debate the changing landscape of fan allegiance in pro sports.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. “Vomiting” Over Mets Woes

[03:11-04:59]

• Rich opens with his disillusionment regarding the Mets' offseason: “Vomit. What are you vomiting about? Peter Alonzo?” (03:11, Covino)
• Rich rails against new management, expressing confusion over letting stars leave for modest differences in pay:
  • “I don't know how you let Diaz go for a couple million more to the one team you need to beat. And then... Polar Bear Pete. My kids have his shirt... It's the worst. Pete Alonso going to the Orioles, like...” (05:24)
• Covino views Alonso’s departure largely as a refusal to be underappreciated:
  • “He was disrespected last year. He bet on himself, put up big numbers again. I don't feel the fans embraced him the way they should have... Ownership should have gave him what he wanted.” (06:25)
• The duo discusses how the departures signal a cultural or management issue rather than just bad luck or contracts.

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2. Legacy, Loyalty & When to Jump Ship as a Fan

[09:43-14:00, 15:26-17:29, 19:02-21:33]

• Covino poses the central question:
  • “Based on this and Rich living in LA, is there ever a season, is there ever a reason for you, Rich, as a fan to jump ship?” (09:55)
• Rich recounts his family’s fandom origins and the significance of loyalty:
  • “My dad went from Yankees to the Mets... My kids are like, dad, we like the Dodgers.” (10:29)
• The crew debates scenarios where leaving a team feels justified:
  • Franchise moves (e.g., “I used to be a Rams fan, then they left St. Louis… Not a Rams fan anymore.” 11:15)
  • Covino ties in parental influence: “If your kid is really showing a lot of fandom to a team... that could be a catalyst.” (12:49)
  • Rich admits: “I have a soft spot for the Dodgers, which might be breaking, like, a man sports rule or something, but I'm still a Mets fan. I can't abandon this miserable franchise.” (12:49)

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3. Edwin Diaz and Mets’ Clubhouse Drama

[13:08-16:39]

• Listeners and Rich riff on Diaz’s abrupt exit, including humorous “wiggle room” banter:
  • “Diaz gets an offer from the Mets... He goes to the Dodgers, doesn't even come back to see what the Mets counter is... the guy has his own wiggle room.” (13:08)
• Danny G and Covino marvel at the Dodgers’ penchant for razzle-dazzle, especially with Diaz’s hyped musical entrance:
  • “What makes the Dodgers disgusting is that... their superstars are likable and this makes them even more likable... the theatrics of Edwin Diaz coming in from the bullpen. It's insane.” (15:02)

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4. The New York Mystique Fading

[16:14-16:39]

• Covino laments New York’s waning draw for star athletes:
  • “It also goes to show you that New York doesn't have this mystique that it once had and that's slowly dwindling... it's sort of a down time to be there and to play there. The expectations are high. And for what?” (16:14)

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5. What ARE Grounds to Abandon a Team? (Caller Stories & Hot Takes)

[17:50-27:43, 35:00-39:36]

• Covino and Rich collect listener stories:
  • Longevity of futility: “If your team had a 20-year streak of suck, I think you’re allowed to jump ship.” (17:50, Listener)
  • Super personal reasons—like relationships: “If your girl starts sleeping with a dude on the team you root for, can you root for that guy?” (20:06, Rich)
  • Star-driven fandom: “I was a Packers fan and when Favre left, I did too. I realized I was more of a Favre fan than the actual Packers.” (18:23, Listener)
• The crew agrees (with much ribbing) that some rare situations—locations moves, repeated heartbreak, or deep personal issues—might justify switching teams, but most agree it's “fraud,” “Fugazi,” to do so for convenience.

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6. Changing Times: Does Loyalty Still Matter?

[47:04-48:40]

• Covino predicts younger generations will be even less loyal to teams:
  • “Our generation was a little more loyal. But today these pros ain't loyal. These pros are not loyal... people care about loyalty? I think based on this, based on the way sports is moving, we're going to see this happening more and more often.” (47:04)
• Cites Gen Z attitudes: “They'll wear other teams’ apparel because it looks cool.” (47:57, Covino)
• Lisa in chat: “Loyalty is a dying trait in general.” (48:16)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

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“Vomit. What are you vomiting about? Peter Alonzo?”

— Covino, [03:12]

“I don't know how you let Diaz go for a couple million more to the one team you need to beat. And then... the face of your franchise, the home run leader, Polar Bear Pete... It's the worst.”

— Rich, [05:24]

“He was disrespected last year. He bet on himself, put up big numbers again. I don't feel the fans embraced him the way they should have... Ownership should have gave him what he wanted.”

— Covino, [06:25]

“Is there ever a season, is there ever a reason for you, Rich, as a fan to jump ship?”

— Covino, [09:55]

“My dog’s on her deathbed and the Mets are getting rid of all their players. What am I gonna do with my Shea Stadium snow globe?”

— Rich, [28:26]

“If your girl starts sleeping with a dude on the team you root for, can you root for that guy? Can you root for the team?”

— Rich, [20:06]

“Fans always say loyalty, but as these younger people come up, that means nothing to them. They're like, yeah, I like the Yankees, but I also like this team.”

— Covino, [48:16]

“I would be a fraud, as Rob Parker would say. Fraud. Fugazi. I would be the worst if I left the Mets.”

— Rich, [23:15]

[Caller] “I feel like if you got a side team or a secondary team, you don’t even have a team. And this is coming from... an Atlanta Falcons, Atlanta Hawks fan. I would have traded them 40 years ago if I could. I just couldn’t do it.”

— Matt in Georgia, [36:11]

“If your team moves, yeah, they left you. And maybe a new team comes into town and maybe you embrace them. Look, I get that.”

— Covino, [22:31]

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Key Timestamps for Important Segments

• [03:11] – Rich’s visceral reaction to Mets front office incompetence
• [06:25] – Covino’s take on Alonso’s motivations
• [09:55] – The show’s central existential question: When is it okay to abandon your team?
• [13:08] – Diaz “wiggle room” segment; humor on departures
• [15:02] – Discussing Dodgers’ showmanship and likeability
• [16:14] – The fading mystique of New York baseball
• [18:23] – Call-in: Switching fandom for favorite player
• [20:06] – “Can you root for your ex’s new team?” (Personal stories)
• [23:15] – Rich’s anxiety over being “Fugazi” if he abandons Mets
• [36:11] – Matt in Georgia, the loyalty (even when your team sucks)
• [47:04] – Generational loyalty breakdown and future predictions

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Show’s Tone, Language, and Style

Unfiltered, conversational, bordering on irreverent—a blend of “guys at the bar” chatter and diehard fandom that keeps the stakes simultaneously high and hilarious. The emotional peaks—from despair over losing stars, to the absurd reasoning behind fandom—are played both for genuine pathos and comedic payoff. The hosts aren’t afraid to poke fun at each other, cross lines, or admit embarrassment over their own fan neuroses.

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Summary Takeaways

• The Mets’ sudden unraveling provides both the sentimental loss of familiar faces and the platform for a meta-discussion on sports fandom.
• Even lifelong fans like Rich hesitate, but find it almost impossible to truly “jump ship”—with only rare, deeply personal exceptions.
• Changes in sports business, player loyalty, and social culture suggest the next generation of fans may be less attached and more transactional.
• Ultimately, sports loyalty is depicted here as a kind of self-imposed curse—sometimes joyful, often painful, but rarely broken without great cause.

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For Listeners Who Missed the Episode

If you’re a diehard fan contemplating fandom fatigue, or simply fascinated by the psychology of sports allegiance, this episode is a must-listen. It has sharp baseball analysis, cathartic humor, catharsis, and heartfelt commiseration on what it means to love a team that keeps breaking your heart. If you’ve ever stayed loyal to a loser (or wondered if you should finally switch sides), Covino & Rich’s “Polar Bear Pete, Jumpin' Ship” will resonate—and make you laugh through the pain.

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Vomit.

[Covino]

What are you vomiting about? Peter Alonzo?

[Rich Davis]

Everything in baseball.

[Covino]

That's disgruntled Mets fan Rich Davis. I'm Covino. It's Kavino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio with Danny G. Super producer. Welcome back.

[Danny G]

Happy Wednesday.

[Covino]

I know how committed Danny G is to our show and to radio and he loves what he does. So for him to have missed the last two shows, he had to be really sick. So glad to see her doing better. Danny G, Iowa, Sam is here on the buttons. How do spots get ready for midweek Major because it's a hump day. He's on the videos. Covino, Rich, fsr and we be rocking out. Let's go. So, Rich, great to see you, man. I'm sorry, Betty.

[Rich Davis]

You know, Danny G wasn't actually sick. He's learning to play Timmy Trumpets for the Dodgers.

[Covino]

I heard Danny G's new trumpet player because Danny G's a very happy resident Dodgers fan, Dan Byer the Great is on standby. Stick around for his insight and his updates. It's the best show on radio according to me and my mom. She listens to my mom or Denn Rich. And again broadcasting from the Fox Sports Radio studios in la. If you miss any of the show, catch the podcast. Danny G puts the best of every day like a condensed version and the best of the week every Saturday morning. But you can watch the show anytime on the YouTube page. Our bonus podcast is also there over Promise. Check it out and enjoy. Now, we're giving away prizes today, but Rich, man, I really am sorry because it feels like. And this is outside looking in. I'm on the outside. I'm looking in like Aaron Lewis abstained.

It feels like your team is crumbling. Feels like your team is falling apart.

[Rich Davis]

I don't know why. That's the thing, Kavino. It's like, you know, they talk about, oh, Juan Cotto. That's why he's, he's the, you know, best owner in baseball. And the culture there is great and everyone loves it and they're so good to the families. I listen much like Dan Campbell when he was talking about, hey, we're going to bite kneecaps. And everyone's like, look at this dope and Then it ended up working out. The Lions never won a Super bowl, and I don't think they're headed there.

[Covino]

They shifted their culture, though, for sure.

[Rich Davis]

But when you talk about Stearns, I don't think what he's doing is rubbing anyone the right way. Like, you're the guy, you're the president of baseball operations, and, you know, you're here with Steve Cohen. You guys are both lifelong Mets fans. I don't know how you let Diaz go for a couple million more to the one team you need to beat. And then the next day, if that's not bad enough, the face of your franchise, the home run leader, Polar bear Pete. My kids have his shirt like, it's. It's the worst. Pete Alonso going to the Orioles, like.

[Covino]

Well, it's obvious as to why Alonzo left. Okay. Alonzo's gone. Five year deal, 155 million to the Orioles. He didn't go near the win. I don't believe they're contenders, but hell of a ballpark. He'll be hitting bombs. Clearly.

[Rich Davis]

He's trying to hit 500 home runs is what he's trying.

[Covino]

And you know what? He might at that park. Great park, great vibe. Camden Yards is great, but they have a long way to go. But things change quick. I think this is clearly a situation of. He was disrespected last year. He bet on himself, put up big numbers again. I don't feel the fans embraced him the way they should have. He's been a lifelong met. He's always been clutch for you guys. Ownership should have gave him what he wanted.

[Rich Davis]

Only. Only guy that the fans relate to when he does his, like, you know, lfgm and I don't know.

[Covino]

Yeah, but I feel like the fans didn't have his back enough when he was fighting to stay right. Everyone was looking forward, seeing who they could get when Alonzo was there the whole time. I really think this is a case of job security and the five years. And I think that meant more to him than dealing with the Mets again. And with Diaz, you know, they had Devin Williams, but he had an opportunity with the Dodgers. You can't blame him for that. So there's reasons and I understand. But what's gross about this, Rich, is, man, that the Dodgers keep getting better, but as far as your team's concerned.

[Sophie Cunningham]

You'Re still in it.

[Covino]

You got Simeon, you got Soto, you got Lindor. It's a matter of who could you get in the bullpen. The Mets are still looking good, but you lost some really, really Big pieces.

[Rich Davis]

Do you try to get Tucker? Do you get Cody Bellinger? Do you make a trade for Scubal? I'm not going to. Oh, God, I so badly want to overreact. Like every New York Mets fan that's, you know, pulling their hair out, losing their minds. Like, yo, Alonzo's gone and Diaz is gone. But I look at it this way, man, it's. We don't know what the roster looks like. If you told me you need some.

[Covino]

Bait, you need some bait because we said this yesterday, Rich. When you lose Diaz to the Dodgers for the chance to win and play in LA and play with the greats, anyone that was on the fence about staying or playing with the Mets is gone. Pete Alonso, he's like, diaz is out. I don't want to play with this team. All the pressure of New York and no one appreciates me anyway, I'm out. Now that Diaz and Alonzo are out, it's even a tougher pull to want to go there. So if I'm Cody Bellinger now or if I'm a big time reliever, I'm like, man, I'm not sure. So that's the only tough part here. Like, they're going to really have to open up the wallet. I don't think they have a problem doing that. But it does send up a red flag a little bit to those guys, you know, weighing out their options, that, hey, maybe something is up with the Mets. Maybe this isn't the place to be. Why are these other people leaving now?

[Rich Davis]

Steve Cohen might be the best owner in baseball, but what if Stearns is a guy that people really don't like? I. So I heard Edwin Diaz, you know, from my Met sources that he was sort of mad and a lot of personnel was mad that they fired pitching coach Jeremy Hefner, who was very well loved within the organization. Those little things add up. And I don't know, I'm not going to overreact until I see what the roster looks like going into opening day. Because all of a sudden, listen, if you get Tucker and, you know, Cody Bellinger and you make a trade for Skubo, and there's still a lot to do. But let me tell you, the weakest start to the offseason, as they call it, the hot stove. You lose Diaz and Pete Alonso and all you have to show for it is, oh, and you lost Nimmo, who was a fan favorite. I didn't care for Nimmo, but you have three big pieces gone. But you know how you could look at it.

[Covino]

Yo.

[Rich Davis]

Those three guys didn't do jack diddly squat. They made a one playoff run and both of those guys have been on the team for a while. So don't you have to mix it up when people say we're going to blow up the team? Well, right now that's sort of what they're doing, right?

[Covino]

It's odd because you still got some big names, but there's some really, really big names also jumping ship. It's a matter of what sort of moves they make moving forward. But based on this, guys, big news today again. Yeah, it's a tough week for Mets fans, a tough week for Rich. Based on this and Rich living in la, is there ever a season, is there ever a reason for you, Rich as a fan to jump ship?

[Rich Davis]

If there ever was, now would be it. I'm really testing my, my Mets fandom. Do I really bleed blue and orange?

[Covino]

I guess your dad went from Yankees to the Mets.

[Rich Davis]

He did. My. My kids are like, dad, we like the Dodgers.

[Caller / Listener]

Wait, to the Mets. Why would you do that? That's like ju the water into a ship. That doesn't make sense. Reverse jumping ship.

[Rich Davis]

You know what, My mom's family were Mets fans, and I think my dad just, you know. Oh, you know what it was. My dad blames the Bronx. My dad went to Fordham University in the Bronx and got his car stolen two times. And he's like, f the Bronx, F the Yankees. And he's like. And he lives in Queens. I had enough.

[Caller / Listener]

The Bronx carjackers.

[Rich Davis]

You got to remember, I was Sam.

[Covino]

I can't take it anymore. I moved to the.

[Caller / Listener]

I'm switching teams for this.

[Rich Davis]

Well, keep in mind the Mets were a new franchise in the 60s. Keep that.

[Caller / Listener]

You need a fresh start, you know.

[Rich Davis]

Dodgers blue, Giants, orange. A lot of people don't know that's how the Mets got their colors. Two teams that left for the west coast, the Mets are blue and orange because of the Dodgers and the Giants. And you know, Camino, I love your question because I think that might be one of the answers when you say, is there any real reason to ever, ever leave a team? And I think franchises moving might be one of the few exceptions. Like, we have buddies that are like, yeah, I. I used to be a Rams fan, then they left and now they're back and I'm like, f them. Or, you know, buddies we have in St. Louis that are like, I was a Rams fan, but then they left St. Louis. I'm not a Rams fan anymore. So maybe that's A reason?

[Covino]

Well, we brought this up yesterday, and we were talking to Dan Buyer. You'll do anything for your kids. And Rich is raising LA kids, and they're growing up in an LA culture where Shohei Ohtani and Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts and all these players are iconic and legendary. All the kids in school are trading their cards and wearing their jerseys. And his kids, Rich's kids, they're all excited about the Dodgers. Ohtani and I mentioned that even the corniest things, if your kids love them, you'll appreciate them as their parent. All their goofy shows, all their little cartoons, all of their little kitty songs, all. All the things they like are near and dear to you because you're their parent. So I think if your kid is really showing a lot of promise or a lot of fandom to a team, I'm not saying it's okay. I'm just saying I could see that being a catalyst for you to start embracing them. And that is what's happening to you, whether you want to admit it or not.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I. I have a soft spot for the Dodgers, which might be, you know, might be breaking, like, a man sports rule or something, but I'm still a Mets fan. I can't abandon this miserable franchise. But I gotta ask you this, if you're me, because I'll give you my thoughts if you're me and you hear that.

Diaz gets an offer from the Mets and they told Diaz and there's wiggle room. He goes to the Dodgers, doesn't even come back to see what the Mets counter is. He's like, the guy has his own wiggle room.

[Covino]

Was it next to the clubhouse somewhere?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, that's. That comes with the contract. You have access to the wiggle room.

[Covino]

He had his own bathroom and his own wiggle room.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, and then, you know, by the way, Kavito, he's going to be at Chuckles in Burbank this weekend. Thank you, Danny G. Hey, I don't.

[Covino]

See any other Fox Sports Radio hosts making those. Making those, making those zingers, taking those chances.

[Rich Davis]

Danny G. I even saw that the Dodgers already started breaking out the organ for Edwin Diaz a day later. Listen to this.

[Covino]

I feel like Danny G. Busted out the organ for Diaz. This is.

[Danny G]

Are you talking about the big Triton cord?

[Covino]

Oh, yeah.

[Danny G]

Dieter Rule, the famous. Of course. He replaced the legendary organist at Dodger Stadium a decade or so ago. And he's a friend of the show. I know he listens to the network. Listen to how he welcomed Edwin Diaz.

[Covino]

You know what's interesting about that.

[Rich Davis]

Danny G. I'm gonna vomit on myself.

[Covino]

Did the Met sort of give him that intro or is that something he came up with on his own? Because how does he take that showmanship over to Dodger Stadium? Is that his or is that the Dodgers sort of thing?

[Rich Davis]

It's his. I wonder, does he go with the Timmy trumpets or does he have the organ player do it? I. He's got to have the light show and everything, you guys. Oh, so disgusting how the Dodgers get better and that's a problem. So let me, let me go back.

[Covino]

To my make more fun the diet. What makes the Dodgers disgusting is that, well, they have over a 500 million dollar payroll, but their superstars are likable and this makes them even more likable and even more fun. Like not only do you got Shohei Ohtani and everything else, but you got this showmanship and the theatrics of Edwin Diaz coming in from the bullpen. It's insane.

[Rich Davis]

Your thoughts? And again, I don't want to make this about my Mets. So make it about your team. What could your team do? What could your team do to have you possibly jump ship? And I have one answer based on Steve Cavino that I'm going to throw out there and it's, it's a little bit of a juicy dirty one. I'll get to that in a second. But let me tell you about Edwin Diaz again. Back to your wiggle room joke. Oh.

He didn't even come back to the Mets to see what that wiggle room was. He was so quick to be like, all right, you know what? I'm a Dyer now. I'm a Dodger. Pete Alonso accepts the 5 year 155 without even accepting an offer from the Mets. What does that tell you about what the Mets front office is doing right now? They're very put offish.

[Covino]

It also goes to show you that New York doesn't have this mystique that it once had and that's slowly dwindling. Every year that goes by without a championship and without the luster of just New York City, man. I mean, we're from there. Keep that in mind. We're from the East Coast. We worked and built our career in Manhattan in New York City. It's sort of a down time to be there and to play there. It really is. The expectations are high. And for what?

[Rich Davis]

I just heard that Grimace signed with the Phillies.

[Covino]

Oh, man. Yes. Tough week for the Mets fans.

[Rich Davis]

Hey O. No, but honestly, I might just have to accept the Fact that the Mets had a magical, beautiful run two years ago with Timmy Trumpets and Grimace Hawk to a girl Lindor and all the, all the magic. And that that might have just been a cool moment and it might be another five to 10 years when Steve Cohen took over this team. Mets fans are under the illusion that, oh, we're going to be like the Dodgers and Yankees and Phillies and teams that make it every year and already it looks like ass. And so if Pete Alonso coming out says, I don't even want to see the Mets offer, I'm going to the Orioles. And Edwin Diaz says, I'm good. I don't even need to see the wiggle room. What does that tell you about David Stearns? What does that tell you about how the front office is rubbing people or.

[Covino]

How maybe some of the other superstars are rubbing people or how they really feel about the organization? Like you said, Rich, I'm getting a lot of feedback because based on this, Rich is terrible, horrible, no good, very bad. Day one.

[Rich Davis]

So a jerk. And we just don't know.

[Covino]

It may be I'm getting feedback because the question is, well, what would it take for you to jump ship from your team?

[Caller / Listener]

And.

[Covino]

West from Vegas, west from Idaho says, if your team had a 20 year streak of suck, I think you're allowed to jump ship. He started giving you the pass, Rich, it's been a long time. 86 is a long time ago.

[Rich Davis]

I'm not doing it. You know, I told you my, my son is going to be six. Who if you watch yesterday's show, my son Ben got to play a little game on the air with us. Ben is six. Just put in perspective that's how old I was when the Mets won the World Series.

[Covino]

You're picking your nose. Yeah. You're wearing Underoos. Daniel Javier Feats says, I was a Packers fan and when Favre left, I did too. I realized I was more of a far fan than, than the actual Packers. And if you're a kid and you feel that way, if you're a kid, like, I kind of understand that. So that was his reasoning for jumping ship. Let's see. Nature Boy, 32, says Diaz probably got his own trumpet player. And he was like, yeah, I'm out.

Getting lots of feedback.

[Rich Davis]

Cove. I got one that a reason to leave a team now.

Since I'm having a rough day, rough week. And in addition to this, not that you need to feel sad for me. Looks like my dog's in her final stages.

[Covino]

Oh, geez.

[Rich Davis]

Which is like miserable for the Family miserable for me. Miserable.

[Covino]

Like, make it through the holidays, please.

[Rich Davis]

I don't think it's gonna happen.

[Covino]

Really?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Oh, man.

[Rich Davis]

So, like, so sad. It's like a day to day thing. So I'm like, trying to explain to my kids, like, you know, dogs don't live forever. And I'm like, on top of that, my teams are falling apart. My wife's out of town for a family emergency. Like, it's been an ass of a week. But I have a fun one. So let me throw you under the bus for a second. In the. In the 2000s, when you and I first became friends, you had a girlfriend dump you for a guy on the New Jersey Nets.

[Covino]

True story.

[Rich Davis]

Then you had another girl dump you for a New York Ranger.

[Covino]

True story. Back to back. And by the way, they weren't just like girlfriends. I was dating. I was with them for three, four years at a time. Each girl like long term relationships. And it was not good for the ego or confidence when I was living at mom's house, trying to make it in radio.

[Rich Davis]

So my question is, when you talk about reasons to stop your fandom if your team sucks for decades, if your team moves, what if your girl starts sleeping with a dude on the team you root for, can you root for that guy? Can you root for the team like Kavino, God forbid, your ex instead of a Ranger, what if all of a sudden she started banging Paul o' Neill or something?

[Covino]

Oh, my goodness, a warrior. There's no way I could go back.

[Rich Davis]

What if all of a sudden you found out your girl was having sleepovers at Bernie Williams house?

[Covino]

I'd say that would burn, baby. Burn. I'd say that would be a legitimate reason. I'll tell you this from experience, dude, and thanks for rubbing it in. Rich. What a pal. Rough week.

[Rich Davis]

What can I tell you?

[Covino]

I think that my days of going to Nets games at that primal time of my life, when I had the time to do so, ended abruptly. Guess who I stopped going to see? Guess whose team I stopped watching? The New Jersey Nets. They were the New Jersey Nets at the time. It was just too tough. So, yeah, I think those are legitimate reasons. I do. If you happen to be in that weird situation that I was in, I had a streak of bad luck. And by the way, you could chime in not only on the phones at 877-99-FOX, but we are streaming live on YouTube. So there's a live YouTube chat where you could chop it up with Lisa and Esteban and Nathan, Nathaniel Richards and NW Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube. Covino and Rich FSR. Who do we got?

[Danny G]

Danny G. Let's start with Matt in LA. Matt SoCal.

[Covino]

Matty. Matt, you're on the show. Covino and Rich.

[Caller / Listener]

Yo, Covino and Rich. Natural content backed by sincere holiday BS.

[Rich Davis]

What up?

[Caller / Listener]

A couple things to me, it's like one, like, I mean, I'm a 90s kid out here in LA trading a favorite player. I'm in the minority here with the Lakers. I was huge, Nick.

[Covino]

Oh, wait, say that again. You were a huge what? You were a huge what?

[Caller / Listener]

Nick Van Ectel.

[Danny G]

Oh, Nick Van.

[Caller / Listener]

I was crushed. And I know they brought in Shadow, they brought in Kobe, but it also brought in a bunch of new casual fans and I didn't like that. And also just moving, changing locations. I mean, I was an LA Rams fan as a kid with Jerome Bettis and everything and when they upped and moved to St. Louis, it just, that was just crushing. I mean, granted they moved back, but honestly, it's just not the same.

[Covino]

Hey, if your team moves, yeah, they left you and maybe a new team comes into town and, and maybe you embrace them. Look, I get that. And I think the real subtle behind the scenes reason Rich poses this question. Because we've asked this before.

[Caller / Listener]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Is because he's had such a tough week and he's seriously debating jumping on ship and having fun with his kids and enjoying Los Angeles, the state, the city he lives in, and start rooting for the Dodgers. And he's probably, you're probably wondering that's put words in your mouth, how much Flack will give you as a lifelong Mets fan. Our buddy Ricky, switching teams.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, there's, there's two levels to this. Yes. You guys, busting my balls is a big deterrent.

[Covino]

Absolutely right.

[Rich Davis]

I would be a, I would be a fraud, as Rob Parker would say. Fraud. Fugazi. I would be the worst if I, if I left the Mets. But then you know what would happen, Kavino? Uh huh. You know what happened if I left the Mets? They'd win a World Series in the next five years and I would not be able to really cheer for it.

[Caller / Listener]

No, Rich, come on. Like you will always just be a Mets fan on the back burner. So if they do ever get good, you can just go right back. It's fine.

[Dan Beyer]

No way.

[Caller / Listener]

You can't quit being a Mets fan, Dodger fan.

[Covino]

You can't be a wishy washy fan.

[Caller / Listener]

Then, then, then be. Going from Mets to the Dodgers is wishy washy. So just Stay with the Mets.

[Rich Davis]

You know, I have a buddy Rob, a Brooklyn dude that lives out here in la. One of my buddies I play softball with. He's late 40s, so he never saw the jets win anything. He was not born in, you know, he was born after 1969 and he's been a lifelong jets fan. Two years ago he made a choice and I was like, because he's not the type that would. He's sort of like a man's man. He's like, yo, F this, F the Jets, I'm done. He's like, I live in LA. I'm here for, you know, the last 10 plus years. I'm a Chargers guy now. And I'm like, for real? He goes, I like Jim Harbaugh. You know, Justin Herbert's cool effort. Yo, I'm done with the Jets. I go, really? He's like, yep.

[Covino]

Is that just a conscious decision? You could just start liking things because you decided to? I don't know. There's got to be more to it. You know, I'm thinking about it, Rich. What could really make you jump ship too, is, is your love of certain players. Meaning, like, if you were young enough to appreciate Jordan in the 90s and let's say you were a kid from New York, you could have easily went from the Knicks to the Bulls because of his super stardom. Shohei Ohtani, he's getting fans all over the world.

[Rich Davis]

What about the people, what about the people that jump on and they don't stay on? Like, for instance, I jumped on the Niners as a kid because my dad thought Joe Montana and probably still think Joe Montana was the coolest dude ever.

[Covino]

He wasn't wrong. So as a kid, I could see you saying, hell yeah, he is.

[Rich Davis]

So my dad's like, oh, I love Montana, so do you. He bought me a little Montana jersey. So I was never a front runner. Yeah, they were good. But I was a five year old kid the same way. My son's like Freddy and Mookie and you know, I love Montana.

[Covino]

You love Hannah Montana.

[Rich Davis]

I love her too.

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Joe Montana was the way that I got into the Niners and I've loved them through Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Kaepernick, you know, Jimmy G, Brock Purdy, you know, my dad doesn't love them as much as I do. My dad likes the Niners, but my dad's like, yeah, I loved Montana. Now like he does, he does not love him as much as I do.

[Covino]

I said Joe Montana because he caught you at a very easily influential part of your life.

[Rich Davis]

I'm saying that's sort of how some people were like, I love Jordan, the Bulls. And then when Jordan retired, like, yeah, I guess I like the Bulls, I suppose, you know, like, you know.

[Covino]

But I'm just trying to think of reasons that you would jump a superstar that transcends the game could real. You win. Could be the answer.

[Caller / Listener]

I don't get the. I mean, maybe it's because I grew up a college football fan where the turnover's every four years, but, like, I don't get this whole rooting for a player and where he goes on the team. Like, you either root for the team or you don't. The whole rooting for players thing is a very Gen Z thing to do.

[Rich Davis]

My. My. My brother, who's younger than me, was a little influential kid when Mookie Wilson. Remember Mookie Wilson? He got traded from the Mets of the Blue Jays. My brother didn't become a Blue Jays fan, but I remember there was a year where he bought a Blue Jays hat, and he's like, I'm with Mookie. And I was like, what do you like the Blue. He's like, I love Mookie Wilson. So listen, I get it. One last thing. I know we're running late, but when I was watching Monday Night Football, Eagles, Chargers, Danny G. It doesn't strike you, being that you're a longtime LA guy. When I see all those people, like, emphatically cheer for the Chargers, I almost feel like they're plants. Like that woman from a couple of years ago. Because I'm like, who really likes the Chargers in la? Like, how do you just pick up a team? That's what I get, what Cavino's saying.

[Caller / Listener]

Rich, how did your buddy go from rooting for the jets and then rooting for a team who has never won a Super bowl in the Chargers? Like, you actually picked, like, a team that's, like, kind of on the same level as the jets in a lot of ways.

[Rich Davis]

I know there's a lot of layers here. A lot of layers here.

[Covino]

Yeah. I think it has to happen organically. I don't think you could wake up one day and say, you know what? Today's the day I decide to root for Go, Chargers, go. That's weird to me.

[Danny G]

Also, Covino, your boy CC Sabathia, couple of months ago, after a bad Raider loss. Don't ask me which one, he posted on social media, picture of him, his mom and sister outside of the Oakland Coliseum back in the day. And he said, I know that win wins are really important to all of us, but some things with our teams are more important than wins and losses. Like my family and our traditions and everything. Culture, all my memories of my family and our team together.

[Covino]

Yeah, that's true, man. And when you have culture like that, like the Raiders fans do, I don't think you could ever jump ship. Look, Rich is prisoner of the moment. It's a sad week. He's got a heavy heart. His doggy's sick. What about he's losing his players.

[Rich Davis]

My doggies on her deathbed. And that's for getting rid of all their players. What am I gonna do with my Shea Stadium snow globe around the holidays?

[Covino]

Is there ever a reason to leave your team? Pete alonzo leaving for five years, 155 million to the Orioles. So we take your phone calls and your feedback. Next.

[Caller / Listener]

Rich, hold the snow globe and make a wish. Maybe it's like the Escape clause, you.

[Covino]

Know, like Santa Claus 3.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, you know, let me do that while I tell you guys all about TCL TVs. Can I wish for a sweet TCL TV for the holidays? Listen, you got that lame ass TV when people are coming over to watch the game, when people are coming over to watch all the bowl games coming up, all the NFL games we're entering week 15. You need a TCL. No, weak ass TV.

[Covino]

Not only that, too rich. I bet you like all your buddies are calling you out like, yeah, Rob's got a weak TV and you don't even realize it. But that's why no one's showing up.

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Rich Davis]

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[Covino]

$250,000 streaming on Prime Video starting January 8th. So look out for that. And thank you for checking us out on YouTube. Covino and Rich FSR Even if you're listening, watch it later. Covino Enrich FSR Now Rich Davis is a very sad Mets fan who lives in LA surrounded by Dodgers fans. Even his kids are Dodgers fans. So he's asking, hey with the Pete Alonso news, when is it okay to jump ship? And we're getting lots of feedback, lots of phone calls. Let me just say that NW Rich on our YouTube chat, Covino and Rich, FSR says it's okay to have a backup team. I'm not sure about that, but Scott for mayor says you just need to have a quote unquote side piece team. Rich and as a side piece a LA Janice Rossi, Apartment 2R your team, do you have one and just don't tell anybody about it? Is that how it works? So you have some joy on the side, but we got some.

[Rich Davis]

Are you saying the Dodgers, it's okay if they're like my side booty?

[Covino]

That's. Hey, I'm telling you what Scott said. He recommended that, you know, keep it big and discreet.

[Rich Davis]

You know, we have I by the way, I'm not leaving the Mets for the Record. That's not. I'm not cut from that cloth of being like, yeah, I'm out. I'll stick with this stupid team forever. But I will say, you know, we've seen. I'll give you an example. There's a guy that you and I know from Brooklyn. His name is Vinnie.

[Covino]

Vinny.

[Rich Davis]

Let me read this. And we're gonna get to all the phone calls. Vinnie, who you know is the most abrasive Met fan. You know, I know what the f happened in the last 24 hours. It's really. Is it really worth watching this effing dumpster fire for an S bag organization? I may tap out. Like, he. This is like a lifer, you know, Vinnie.

[Covino]

Yeah, he's hardcore Mets. I mean, it's disappointing. It really is. It's a really bad week. You're losing your superstars, and it's. It's extra hurtful when you made all the other moves to make it better. You know, again, the big Juan Soto deal, for example. But let's go to the phones. 87799 on Fox. 87799 on Fox. Covino and Rich. Danny G. Who?

[Danny G]

We got another Matt, this time in Georgia.

[Covino]

Hey, Matt.

[Rich Davis]

Yo, what's up, Georgia?

[Covino]

Matt.

[Caller / Listener]

What's up, fellas? Listen, I feel like if you got a side team or a secondary team, you don't even have a team. And this is coming from an Atlanta Falcons, Atlanta Hawks fan. Like, I could have. I would. I'm 50 years old. I would have traded him 40 years ago if I could. I just couldn't do it. And I hate to mix two stories together. Kavino. But I would give anybody on the team my girl for a championship for either one of those teams.

[Rich Davis]

He would tell Wifey to go hang with Michael Pennix Jr. If it meant a Super Bowl.

[Covino]

If it meant Super Bowl.

[Rich Davis]

Kavino. Crazy enough, our buddy Donnie Pompadour, who listens, he recently said, damn you, Michael Vick, for pulling me into this Falcons team, because now I can't. Now, like, all these years later, they suck.

[Covino]

Like, you can't leave.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Covino]

Who else we got? Danny G. Let's go to Vegas.

[Danny G]

Larry.

[Covino]

Hey, Larry. Larry.

[Caller / Listener]

What's going on now?

[Covino]

Hey, buddy.

[Rich Davis]

Yo.

[Caller / Listener]

Hey. This is what I said. It's a lot of people in Vegas, they're getting passes because we never had a professional NFL team nor a major league team coming. So a lot of people had teams like the Giants or whatever. But now that the Raiders here, they was like, they giving them passes, like. And I'm like, I'm 53, bro. I'm from the old school. I'm a Buffalo Bills and it's to the casket drop. But you got people in Vegas that are literally think it's okay.

[Covino]

Here's the difference.

[Caller / Listener]

We never had no.

[Rich Davis]

But Larry, Larry.

[Covino]

I respect Larry, dude, but he's rooting for the Bills. The Bills are a great team. What if you root for the jets and you're, you're in Vegas? Isn't this a perfect, like pivotal moment to maybe say, you know, maybe it's time. There's some exceptions.

[Rich Davis]

I feel, Larry, the reason I'm staying with the Mets no matter what is because I feel what Larry said. When you see Vegas Raiders fans or like I said, Chargers fans in la, it's like, what did you do a couple years ago? Now all of a sudden you're like, go, Justin Herbert. Like you. It feels fugazi.

[Covino]

You had to. For a weak ass team, you had to be. But you know, that is a unique situation that I'd have to hear you out. I'm not a fan of, of leaving your team, but I'd have to hear that one out. Who else? We got Danny G. Let's go to.

[Danny G]

Charlotte and it's Tracy.

[Covino]

Tracy, what's up?

[Sophie Cunningham]

Hey.

[Caller / Listener]

Hey, guys. Love your show. First time caller, longtime listener. And I think everybody's fan experience can be defined by them. They just have to deal with whatever the consequences of their decision. So I changed teams. I grew up 49ers fan, New York Mets fan. When I moved to Charlotte in 1996, my first time I ever lived in the city with a football team. I grew up in a small town with pick the 49ers because of Joe Montana and because somebody gave me a jersey when I was five years old. And I chose conscious decision to embrace this team that was local, they were brand new. I think it was the year after they started. And I have lived with those Panthers for 30 years. And it has been a lot of good times and mostly miserable times.

[Covino]

Man.

[Rich Davis]

You know, you remind us of our friend Drew in Nashville. You guys know our bud Drew Mack Cavino. He's a lifelong Colts fan, but he lives in Nashville and he sort of runs things in Nashville. His kids love the Titans. Listen, not that they're good this year, but he had season tickets to the Titans and he's like, I know they're in the same division, so it's even more wonky. But he has a soft spot for the Titans. It happens.

[Covino]

All right, so I do have a final thought. Jerry Jerry Springer style. We got one more phone call on this. But first an update from the great Dan Beyer.

[Dan Beyer]

Guys, a huge news breaking within the last hour or so is that the University of Michigan is fired at football coach Sharon Moore after two seasons. Michigan athletic director Ward Manual releasing a statement saying that Moore was terminated with cause as there is credible evidence that Moore had an inappropriate relationship with a staff member. Moore went 15 and 8 during his two seasons at Michigan. Biff Pogi is expected to take over as the interim head coach as Michigan will be playing in the Citrus bowl on New Year's Eve against Texas. But again Sharon Moore out after two seasons at Michigan with the school saying it is with cause. The Baltimore Orioles and former Metslugger Pete Alonso agreeing on that five year deal worth $155 million. Colts officially signed Philip Rivers today. Was asked how the family was with the decision.

[Caller / Listener]

They've been very support. You know I think my younger children are most excited.

[Rich Davis]

They're excited because they don't remember dad playing. You know my six year old actually.

[Caller / Listener]

Asked me like four months ago like dad why don't you play anymore? And I'm like I'm sorry.

[Rich Davis]

Best you're going to get is me.

[Caller / Listener]

Coaching on the sideline, you know.

[Rich Davis]

But I think share the same sentiment. A little nervous like dad you can.

[Dan Beyer]

You think you can do it now. Riley Leonard was a full participant in practice today. No word on if Rivers will play in Week 15 against the Seahawks. Commanders quarterback Jaden Daniels out against the Giants. Geno Smith of the Raiders likely to miss their game with the Eagles because of a shoulder injury. Kenny Pickett would be in line to start. And Buccaneers wide receiver Mike Evans activated from ir. He's expected to play tomorrow despite being listed as questionable as they face the Falcons. Every Olympic dream starts with a first glide through. Learn to Skate USA kids build confidence, strength and joy on the ice. Learn to Skate USA offers programs for skaters of all ages and abilities. Find a program near you@ learntoskateusa.com the NFL draft changing the format of the first round while basically saying instead of 10 minutes teams will have 8 minutes to make their first round picks. That starts in Pittsburgh coming up next spring. Guys, back to you.

[Rich Davis]

Thank you Dan Byer Covino Hearing Dan Byers update and just hearing Pete Alonso to the Orioles it just doesn't, it seems sort of like not real. But you know what, what does it also say that like I said the two big stars that left Diaz didn't come back for the counteroffer. The quote wiggle room. And Pete Alonso gets the offer from the Orioles and doesn't even entertain. Like Scott Borris doesn't even sit down with Cohen and Stearns. Like, what does that tell you? What's going on within the Mets?

[Covino]

That things ain't right. I mean, it does. The writing's there. And Rich, I'm hoping to get a little wiggle room in our next Fox Sports Radio contract. It sounds fun. All right. So like I said, a Jerry Springer final thought and the rest of your phone calls, plus midweek major and more right here on Fox Sports Radio. Covino and Rich.

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[Covino]

Well, the holidays came early for the Dodgers.

Seems like the Dodgers had a little more wiggle room.

And Diaz didn't even come back.

[Rich Davis]

He didn't even come back to see what the wiggle room was.

[Covino]

That's okay because they're all dancing at Dodger Stadium to two in a room. Wiggle it just a little bit cause they're going to the World Series again with Edwin Diaz. And of course Pete Alonso is also gone today. So I'm Cavino, that is Rich, the sad Mets fan Danny G. Sam Spotty's getting ready for midweek. Major Dan Byers here and it's time for our tire rack play of the day. It was all Knicks in Toronto. Towns top of the key met by.

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[Covino]

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[Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

There's some sad Knicks and Mets fan out there being like, well, I guess at least the Knicks are still in the cup. The Cup. Embarrassing.

[Covino]

Well Rich, you know the question based on Alonzo now leaving Diaz and Alonzo left the Mets this week. It's tough.

I think. Here's My prediction, if the question is when's it okay to leave your team? You're an old school sort of guy and you have an old school way of thinking. And I feel like our generation was a little more loyal. But today these pros ain't loyal. These pros are not loyal. They jumped ship and they played for those teams. As this younger generation comes up, you think they're going to be loyal to teams they're not loyal to their own relationships, they're not loyal to their own marriages. How fickle are young people in today's life? In today's world of dating, someone gave you the ick because they jumped over a puddle funny. And you broke up with them. You think those type of people care about loyalty? I think based on this, based on the way sports is moving, we're going to see this happening more and more often. There's no loyalty when it comes to this stuff. Moving forward, could I wrap it up.

[Rich Davis]

By saying just over the last 20 years I've seen that sentiment because your brother, who's 30 year old, dude, younger, your younger brother, significantly younger, he'll wear like an A's hat. Cuz he's like, yo, it's green and it matches my sneakers, dude, I like the A's. I guess he'll wear, he'll wear a other teams apparel because it looks cool.

[Covino]

You would never, never, never look. Lisa even said loyalty is a dying trait in general. So as these younger people come up, that means nothing to them. They're like, yeah, I like the Yankees, but I also like this team. Or I like the Yankees but they got rid of my favorite players. So now I like the mitts. Like I think based on the mindset of younger people on their come up, it's going to be more and more common as time goes on.

[Rich Davis]

Well, we're going to get to a lot of NFL football for the rest of the show. But, but Kavino, final thought. Are you shocked that Pete Alonzo didn't even even for maybe even optics at least hear the Mets out? Is that weird to you? I think it's odd that he didn't even hear them out.

[Covino]

Yeah. That just goes to show you that his mind was set. His mind was made up already. Danny G, we got one more call.

[Danny G]

Yeah, let's wrap it with Michael in Canada. He's calling from Montreal.

[Covino]

Jumping shit. Mike. What's up?

[Caller / Listener]

How you guys doing? A huge, huge, huge fan of your show. Love what you do.

[Covino]

Appreciate it, dude.

[Rich Davis]

Thank you, man. I watch that Expos Doc and I'm sure you're probably going to talk a little expos? Right?

[Caller / Listener]

No, believe it or not, I'm not. I'm heartbroken that the team's been gone. It's crazy that we even had one here drive by the stadium all the time. It's the probably the ugliest building in our, in our fair city. But I grew up my. When I was nine years old, my mom brought me to a sports store and bought me a hat out of a discounted bin. A corduroy purple hat with a Minnesota Vikings logo on it. And I had a Vikings fan for the last 45 years because of it.

[Rich Davis]

And wow.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Caller / Listener]

You know, they, they break my heart every, every year. It's getting worse by the day here this year and I always joke with my buddies, if ever you need Vikings gear and you can't find it online, call me up because I've got it all. But I don't know what to do now. You know, I'm stuck with this team forever. My kids have got the affliction and they all make fun of me for it.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. Let me ask you, I thought he was going to go Expos. Let's say you are a dude in Montreal or a woman in Montreal. The Expos leave. Are you a Nationals fan or like. Well, of course.

[Covino]

Yeah. That was reason to leave. Yeah. Sometimes there's, there's unique situations. That's definitely a classic one. So next hour, Rich midweek major the biggest stories in sports and pop culture. Mike's Wednesday words of wisdom. We got prizes to give away and Rich is going to cry more about.

[Rich Davis]

His Mets and we'll talk some Philip Rivers. So hang tight. More CNR Next.

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