C&R - Rodgers Can't Go Out Like That

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – “C&R - Rodgers Can't Go Out Like That”

Date: January 14, 2026
Podcast Host: Covino & Rich
Main Theme:
The episode focuses on Aaron Rodgers’ rough playoff exit, the phenomenon of sports legends ending their careers on low notes, and broader reflections on disappointing farewells in sports and entertainment. The hosts also touch on Mike Tomlin’s departure from the Steelers, preview upcoming playoff matchups, and invite listener participation on the topic of the “weakest farewells.”

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Aaron Rodgers’ Harsh Playoff Exit

• Main Sentiment: The hosts grapple with how tough it was to watch Aaron Rodgers’ recent playoff performance and wonder if this loss is a final chapter or if Rodgers will return.
• Covino: “How do you go out like that? ...that might be the weakest exit we’ve ever seen.” (10:31)
• The image of Rodgers being sacked, pressured, and ultimately throwing a pick-six is dissected as the possible end of a legendary career.
• Memorable Metaphor: Covino compares it to “a prizefight where the guy's just working the body... and by the fourth quarter, Steelers had nothing.” (09:04)

Patterns, Pressure, and Playoff “Stinkers”

• Rich’s ‘Vegas Roulette Theory’: Using an analogy about betting on black, Rich suggests that poor performances (a “stinker”) rarely happen twice in a row for good teams or players.
  • “We saw CJ Stroud have his blunder of a game last night. That will not happen again.” (06:01)
  • Predicts Texans will bounce back strong as an underdog in the next round and calls for listeners to "bet on black." (08:42)

The Big Man Moment & Texans’ Defense

• Highlight: The hosts and producer Danny G celebrate Texans’ defender Sheldon Rankins' memorable fumble return touchdown.
  • “Anytime a big boy is chugging, you're rooting for it, right?” – Monty (03:05)
• Praising the Texans’ defense for its tenacity and ability to wear out their opponents, likening the process to a fighter gradually softening up an adversary’s body.

Discussion: How Legends Go Out (& Should They Return?)

• The hosts reflect on iconic athletes facing rough exits.
  • Covino: “There’s honor in the fight and he fought with honor, but you can’t get shoved out of bounds like that. That might be...the biggest stinkeroo that ever was.” (11:36)
• Unanimous sentiment: Most legends don’t get the storybook ending.
  • “Sometimes you just don’t have that choice of how you remember. That's just life. Sad.” – Covino (11:56)
• Caller Danny G: Raises the compounded cruelty of a home crowd booing Rodgers, chanting for him to retire after the loss. (22:04)
• Monty’s Prediction: “Guys, Aaron Rodgers is coming back next year. I don't know how or where… but it's gonna happen.” (34:55)

Comparing Farewells: Sports, Entertainment, and Life

• Examples analyzed:
  • Dan Marino’s 62-7 playoff blowout loss (27:46–28:14)
  • Bernard Hopkins being knocked out of the ring in his final fight (14:02–15:28)
  • Mike Tyson’s vulnerable final interview: “I just don’t have the fighting guts.” (15:36)
  • Tom Brady’s pick-six playoff exit with the Patriots vs. later redeeming his “last moment” with a Super Bowl win (17:29–17:48)
  • Clayton Kershaw’s tense but redemptive moment for the Dodgers (19:04)
  • Roseanne’s infamous sitcom ending and its parallels with sudden, unsatisfying farewells (34:26)
  • Notable wrestling and pop culture “bad exits”: John Cena quitting, Robbie Cano in the minors on SpongeBob night.

Legacy and Memory in the Modern Era

• Social Media’s Role: Danny G astutely notes that in today’s digital age, lowlights and failures circulate and ‘stick’ more than in the past.
  • “Back then with Marino, there was no social media, TikTok… Highlights didn’t live as prominent as they do now.” (18:42)
• The panel ultimately agrees that, over time, most fans remember the legend not for how they ended, but for their iconic moments.

Coaching Carousel & Tomlin Departure

• The hosts preview upcoming coaching changes, especially Mike Tomlin’s departure from the Steelers after 19 seasons, and discuss the challenges of moving on after such long tenures.
• Listener opinions suggest it’s not all on Rodgers or Tomlin—management and coaching staff also share blame for the “stinker” exit.

Interactive Segment: Weakest Farewells

• Prompt: “What is the weakest farewell you can remember in sports, movies, television, any?” (12:00)
• Numerous listener call-ins and examples, including Joe Namath, Muhammad Ali’s late-career losses, and more.

Upcoming Playoff Matchups

• Quick analysis of remaining playoff teams, Super Bowl odds, and the unpredictable nature of this NFL postseason.
• Covino: “Bills, Broncos, Niners, Seahawks, Texans, Pats, Rams, Bears. All great. That’s better than Ryan Garcia–Mario Marios. These are great matchups.” (13:18)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Rodgers’ final play:
  • “On 4th and 5, Rodgers looks it over...and picked off...Bullock maintains his balance and runs for pay dirt.” (Tire Rack Play of the Day – 39:59)
• On sports heartbreak:
  • “You want to remember someone at their best, you know, not at their worst.” – Covino (16:46)
• On sports farewells:
  • “It's just life. …You don't get to choose how you go out sometimes.” – Rich (19:05)
• On talk radio legends fading:
  • “Sometimes I look at a Howard Stern type, and...he watched the world of podcasting swoop in and sort of replace his…” – Rich (23:04)
• On legacy ultimately prevailing:
  • “No, it doesn't [hurt his legacy]...his legacy stands before him and...he’s a Super Bowl champ and that’s really what’s going to be remembered.” – Covino (41:49)

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 02:47 – Sheldon Rankins’ fumble return discussed
• 04:16–05:04 – Steelers’ offensive struggles dissected
• 06:01–08:42 – Rich’s “Vegas roulette theory” and Texans’ playoff outlook
• 10:31 – Rodgers’ age and inability to escape pocket, legacy discussion begins
• 12:00 – Open call: Worst farewells in sports/entertainment
• 14:02–15:28 – Bernard Hopkins’ infamous ring exit
• 17:25–17:48 – Tom Brady’s initial exit
• 19:04–19:48 – Clayton Kershaw’s near-miss and “good” farewell vs. Rodgers
• 22:04 – Rodgers booed at home by fans, the pain of a rough ending
• 27:46–28:14 – Comparison: Dan Marino’s playoff swan song
• 34:26–34:48 – Parallels with TV show endings (Roseanne)
• 39:59–40:17 – Rodgers’ final play aired
• 41:49–42:05 – Affirmation: bad ending doesn’t erase legacy

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Summary Table: Episode Flow

| Time | Topic/Segment | Speaker(s) | Notable Quote/Insight | |-------------|----------------------------------------|------------------|----------------------------------------| | 02:47 | Texans’ defense, Rankins’ moment | Covino/ Monty | “Anytime a big boy is chugging…” | | 06:01–08:42 | Vegas ‘Roulette Theory’, playoff makeups| Rich/ Covino | “Bet on black… Patterns, patterns.” | | 10:31 | Rodgers’ legacy, going out on low note | Covino | “How do you go out like that?” | | 12:00 | Listener call-in prompt, farewells | Rich/ Covino | “What is the weakest farewell…” | | 14:02–15:28 | Bernard Hopkins, Tyson, bad exits | Covino/ Rich | “He goes flying through the ropes…” | | 17:25 | Tom Brady’s haunted memories | Rich | “A pick six in the postseason…” | | 19:04 | Kershaw’s redemption vs. Rodgers | Rich | “That was a moment that you pray for…” | | 22:04 | Home fans turning on Rodgers | Danny G/ Covino | “They were booing him, telling him to retire.”| | 27:46–28:14 | Dan Marino, context for legend exits | Rich/ Covino | “I remember Dan Marino losing 60-7…” | | 34:26 | TV/Pop culture bad ending parallels | Covino/ Rich | “First series ended—all a dream.” | | 39:59 | Rodgers’ final play featured | Covino | “Will this play be the last time…” | | 41:49 | Ultimate legacy/legend reflection | Covino | “No, it won't be [the lasting image]…” |

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Takeaway for Listeners

Even the greatest can end their story on a rough note—just ask Aaron Rodgers, Bernard Hopkins, or Mike Tyson. But true legacies outlast one “stinkeroo.” The show skillfully weaves together game analysis, sports history, pop culture, and humor, engaging listeners in a cathartic group discussion about how we remember legends (and ourselves), and how ultimately, it’s about the totality of the journey, not just the final moment.

Listener Prompt:
Share your own “weakest farewell” in sports, TV, or life.
Call-in: 877-99-ON-FOX
YouTube Chat: Covino and Rich FSR

Next up: Coaching carousel talk, Mike Tomlin's legacy, and why sometimes a “wife swap” is the only way to appreciate what you have.

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Transcript

[Monty]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Monty]

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[Covino]

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[Monty]

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[Rich]

Go ahead.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

That's right, baby. Papa Bear is here. Hi, Moncy.

[Monty]

Hi, Ryan.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Monty]

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[Covino]

Let's rock out into this. Taco Tuesday. Hope your night was better than Aaron Rodgers night. Hope your day's going better than his. And congrats to the Texans. Man, what a wallop. As I said earlier to you, Rich, it was a really close game. Until it wasn't. It's like the wheels fell off and it got really ugly in the fourth quarter.

[Rich]

I feel like, what the hell happened? I feel like in the fourth quarter, not to sound gross, but if you dipped away to take a little bathroom break and you were sitting there a little long, you were doing the ball scroll, you might have came back to a completely different game. Yeah, you're like, this is.

[Covino]

This is close, man.

[Rich]

We have a 7 6. All right, 10 6. They're a touchdown, they win it, and then you blink your eyes.

[Covino]

36.

[Rich]

You know, go read your kid a bedtime story. Go back to the living room. But it's 30 to 6.

[Covino]

So between Rogers and Tomlin and your boy Warner's in The news plus Showboy Mahomes is stopping by. We got some trivia, we got prizes. There's a lot to get to, so let's get into it. We're broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studio. So if you miss any of today's show, you want to catch the podcast, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And after the show, the podcast goes up. Every day we have a best of the day and a best of the week on Saturdays. Rate it 5 stars because anything less is uncivilized. But we really suggest you watch what you hear. We do it live and there's a live chat and it's popping already. Covino Enrich FSR on YouTube join the fun. Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube now.

[Rich]

And by the way, shout outs. Can we all agree that Sheldon Rankins, when that dude picked up the ball randomly and was just like, I'm going to run for a touchdown, I thought that was awesome. That's.

[Covino]

That's so the big guy. The big dude.

[Monty]

The big. That was great.

[Covino]

Anytime a big boy is chugging, you're.

[Monty]

Rooting for it, right?

[Rich]

Yeah. Monster the best. Out of respect, I just looked up his name. I was going to say, you remember when the big fella. Because everyone knows me, the big fella, Sheldon Rankins. And he got love after the game in the post game as well.

[Covino]

But all you got to say is big man.

[Rich]

And because in that moment when Rodgers got popped, walloped, and his helmet looked like it mangled his head in slow motion, that looked brutal. When that ball goes to the ground, you assume big dudes are going to fall on the ball. That guy just reach his hand down like there's the ball.

[Covino]

Well, it's a risk move. You're taught to fall on the ball.

[Rich]

Yeah, but he did not. And it worked out.

[Covino]

Yeah, it worked out. You know, he saw an opening, went for it. That's a huge drill for a big fellow like that. So, yeah, it was a really close game. It seemed like your boy Danny G, C.J. stroud was, was giving them the game, keeping them in it. You got to give props to their defense. Texans defense continues to carry them, and that's why they're the hottest team in the NFL 10 in a row now. Right? So, man, you really got to take them serious moving forward because they turned it around. You thought it was close, but it really, really wasn't. When they stepped it up, you could.

[Danny G]

Tell that the offense was gassed there.

[Covino]

In the fourth quarter. It was so embarrassing at the end.

[Rich]

I'm no, you know, offensive line specialist, you know, I don't. I'm not a Kyle Shanahan of sorts, but I mean, that offensive line for Pittsburgh was either collapsing or the running backs were taking weird angles, they were getting pushed backwards. I feel like every running attempt, you know, when Aaron Rodgers, you know, every.

[Covino]

Offense, the pocket was collapsing on Rogers, there wasn't a lot he could do. Cove.

[Rich]

What I'm saying is we all know that even if the running game's not working, you have to run the ball once in a while just to keep the defense on their toes. Like, you can't just say we're abandoning the run. But even on those runs where you like, maybe we'll get two and it'll be second and eight, it's second and 11 or second and 12. Like the running back was hitting the backfield every time. Every time. And I'm going to call this the rich loses in Vegas all the time theory.

[Covino]

Sorry, really wordy theory. Need to work that out because I.

[Rich]

Know we got to talk about Tomlin and Aaron Rodgers, but I just thought of this. So let me kick it with this thought. Kick it when we're in Vegas. What happened the other day we were in Vegas for.

[Covino]

I really want to talk about that on the radio.

[Rich]

Nothing happened. Oh, or did it? I'm kidding.

[Danny G]

So the thing with your bank, I.

[Rich]

Put up, you know, couple. Couple bucks, I play roulette. It's a terrible choice of game. I love it because I love to play like my kids birthdays, my favorite players jersey numbers. And once in a blue moon, you throw 10 bucks on red XVI and you're like 360 bucks. But then most of the time I just blow $100 in five minutes. So I'm playing roulette and I look up at the board, there's been about 15 reds in a row. And then I'm like, what did Wesley Snipes always teach you? Always bet on black, right? There you go. See, you got some black friends now, didn't you?

[Covino]

Didn't you?

[Rich]

So I said, you know what it's been like? Red has hit a million times. You gotta. You got to bet on black because it's bound to happen. And there's two things in the playoffs that I think we're going to watch happen and unfurl and unfold divisional weekend. Number one is we saw CJ Stroud have his blunder of a game last night that will not happen again.

[Covino]

He was still talking smack at the end too.

[Rich]

Lucky they're just lucky that they played a terrible opponent in a team that shouldn't have even been there in the Steelers.

[Danny G]

Right.

[Rich]

I mean they outclassed them. They were at one point, if you.

[Danny G]

Remember, they should have been there. They got there.

[Covino]

Come on.

[Rich]

I know, but Danny, the Texans were three and five. Busted out nine in a row.

[Danny G]

You didn't say that about the Chargers. You didn't say they shouldn't have been there.

[Rich]

They.

[Covino]

Good point.

[Rich]

But I think last night the Texans had their stinker and they still clobbered the Steelers.

[Covino]

Like even at their worst, they clobbered them.

[Rich]

There was Nothing very impressive, 30 points. If you didn't watch that game, you'd probably think something different. But as Kavino and I was saying, fourth quarter, that came 7, 6, 10, 6, a snore fest. And then it just got out of control. I think they tightened up the ship. I think New England's in trouble next week because I think Houston will not allow two games like that in a row. So I think number one, Houston's bringing it as a three point underdog. I think you go Houston heavy next week. And my other thought, and this benefits me, Dan Byer in the hallway, you know what he said to me? I don't want to look at you. Because he's a Seahawks fan. I go, dan, he goes, I don't want to look at you.

[Danny G]

He said, your run ends here.

[Rich]

Yeah, he. So I said, you know Sam Darnold. Don't we feel like he's due for a stinker? Sam Darnold's been known every so often he has a game where he's exposed, makes some mistakes, ill advised throws, but he's been pretty consistently solid. I think Sam Darnold.

[Covino]

So he dies by the sword next.

[Rich]

Week for a stinker. And I. For some reason, I think it happens in this high pressure playoff game, Mike McDonald's first game as a head coach in the playoffs. I feel like Darnold's gonna have a stinker and the Texans got their stinker out of the way. So based on my roulette theory, it's not going to happen again. It's patterns. Patterns.

[Covino]

I think you need to work out this theory.

[Monty]

Yeah, I don't know if I agree.

[Rich]

With your theory here. I'm trying to figure out how Sam.

[Monty]

Darnold hasn't been great to end the season.

[Rich]

I just feel like something's bound to give. I want you to.

[Covino]

Is that what you're saying?

[Rich]

I want you to note this moment because Danny G. Isolate this last 30 seconds. And come Monday, I want everyone to be like, man, Rich, you're in the money.

[Covino]

So what you're saying is bet on black.

[Rich]

Bet on black.

[Covino]

All right, Betting on black.

[Danny G]

Who are you, Rob Parker?

[Rich]

Now betting on black, I told you all season, betting on black would mean Houston doesn't have two stinkers in a row. They just happen to escape against a team that was. And the Niners injured but inspired, playing with house money against a team that I feel like is due for a little bit of a stank.

[Covino]

I agree with you on the Texans and I think Danny G hit it. It was close. But what we saw was the defense breaking down that offensive line and breaking down that offense and at the end they had nothing left. It's like a prize fight, right? Where the guy's just working the body, working the body, working the body and all of a sudden you see that, that dude's gassed by the eighth round because he's getting punched in the ribs, he's getting liver punched all night long. You know, by the end of the game, by the fourth quarter, Steelers had nothing and that was it. That's exactly what happened. So that defense is vicious, bro. So I'm with you on that all the way. The Texans are good even at their worst, so congrats to them.

[Danny G]

Don't think that Drake may can't pull the ball down and run a little bit though. Here's the thing, because you saw in the fourth quarter, Aaron Rodgers had all that field in front of him and he threw an incomplete pass. He could have ran the ball 20, 22 yards. But he didn't.

[Covino]

But he couldn't.

[Danny G]

Ye 52 year old Aaron Rodgers would have ran that ball.

[Covino]

Absolutely.

[Rich]

You know what I thought about that when I saw Aaron Rodgers hugging some of these young dudes at the end of the game. There's got to be like a conscious and subconscious sentiment of like, yeah, like 10 years ago you were the man, sir.

[Covino]

Like, you know, like I wish I knew you when I was young, everyone.

[Monty]

Waited to say something to him when.

[Rich]

When like the Texans were hugging him, they were probably in their mind thinking like, yo man, like when I was a kid you were good, you know, like that, that was probably the sentiment because it's like they respect him so much. But yeah, he, you could tell last.

[Covino]

Night he wasn't on him though. It really wasn't. I mean they were letting him through. He only got clobbered because, well, he couldn't really get out of that pocket. But because they were gassed, the line was gassed and they couldn't protect him anymore. And you're talking about stinkers. Rich. That was the definition of a stinker. Watching him get sacked like that, watching him get hit like that, having to get up like that. And I'm just wondering if that might be the weakest exit we've ever seen. And I hate to dump on it and pour salt in the wound. Cause I really don't want to. No one wants to see that. I was rooting for Aaron Rodgers. And I'm not hating, I'm just stating. But do you come back if that's the lasting image or is that just the end of it? Like, how do you go out? Like, I mean, if he were to ever listen to Cypress Hill, you know, you can't going out like that. We ain't going out. That you got, dude. I mean. But then again, that's just the writing on the wall. What could you do with sports? Father Times undefeated, as they say. And there's honor in the fight and he fought with honor, but you can't.

[Danny G]

Get shoved out of bounds like that.

[Covino]

That might be.

[Danny G]

And then. And then.

[Covino]

Biggest stinkeroo that ever was. Rich.

[Danny G]

And then Rudolph goes in and he's just standing there on the side. I don't want to remember him like that.

[Rich]

Well, you know what? Here's where we're the most interactive show on all networks. 87799 on Fox. The YouTube chat is going strong now.

[Covino]

Sometimes you just don't have that choice of how you remember. That's just life. Sad.

[Rich]

What is the weakest farewell that you could remember in sports, movies, television, any.

[Covino]

Like visually, I don't think you could top mine.

[Rich]

I'm serious. The weakest farewells. Let's take your feedback. And by the way, I'm high on the Texans right now, so let me let you know. According to DraftKings and all our sites, right.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Seahawks are the odds on favor to win the Super Bowl. Super bowl odds right now of the eight remaining teams, number six, Houston Texans at +850. I feel like there's a value there only because I think they have the goods. Like the Niners are the longest long shot of the eight teams. And I'm a realist as a Niners fan. Even if they slip by their rival opponents, their division opponent this weekend and then they got to play the Bears or the Seahawks, then they would have to go play some stacked AFC team. I'm a realist. It doesn't look good. But the Texans at +850.

[Covino]

Yee haw I'm.

[Rich]

I, Dimiko, Ryan. I'm a fan. I'm a fan. I like that team. They're fun. And last night they played like ass and still won because their defense is so good. It should be interesting. It was all I'm saying.

[Danny G]

You think your boy CJ Stroud can lift up the Lombardi?

[Rich]

He's, you know, Danny doesn't look dude.

[Covino]

It'S anybody seasoned and as a fight.

[Rich]

Fan, does look great at times.

[Covino]

I have an answer to your question. As a fight fan, I look at the matchups. That's why I love the NFL and that's why I feel almost fortunate to not have a team, because I'm able to watch unbiased as a fan, just for the matchups. Bills, Broncos, Niners, Seahawks, Texans, Pats, Rams, Bears. All great. That's better than Tia. Female Stevenson. That's better than Ryan Garcia, Mario, Marios. These are great matchups, and that's what excites me, the matchups. You could say that these matchups next week were better than the ones we just watched. I think we're in for some really great games next week. We're going to get you hyped about it, but you asked about, or you were talking about stinkeroos and bad exits and Aaron Rodgers and how hard that was to watch, right?

[Rich]

What comes to mind.

[Covino]

Well, what comes to mind as a fight fan, and that's why I was talking about the matchups, is I'll never forget Bernard Hopkins. He was sort of like an ageless wonder. Remember, they called him the Alien because he was doing things that we've never seen before. He's like, not of this earth. Like, how is he still fighting? Well, I remember Bernard Hopkins got in the ring one too many times and he fought this guy named Joe Smith. And Joe Smith wasn't like a known dude. And he's fighting Bernard Hopkins and you're like, man, Bernard Hopkins, crazy. He's got to win this because this might be his last fight. I think he had lost the previous fight. In fact, I'm pretty sure he lost to. Who do you lose to? One of those Russian dudes.

[Rich]

But anyway, Ivan Drago.

[Covino]

I think it was Drago. And I remember this dude, Joe Smith, in like the eighth round, fighting a legend. Bernard Hopkins, the Executioner. Now the alien, he knocks him out the ring like the video game Ring king. He goes flying through the ropes onto the floor. And that was the end and lasting image of Bernard Hopkins in the ring. He's a great promoter. He's a great Great face for boxing. I love him. But the last memory of him in the ring is getting knocked out of the ring by like a right hook. How embarrassing is that?

[Rich]

I mean, he came back out of.

[Covino]

The ring like a WWE moment.

[Rich]

He came back for some exhibition fights. But I always hated when Mike Tyson fought some nobody. And at the end of the fight.

[Covino]

Don'T have the fighting guts anymore.

[Rich]

Yeah, he gave up and he said that phrase, I just don't have the fighting guts.

[Covino]

Have the fighting guts.

[Rich]

And he said he does it for the money because he needs to support his kids. And I remember feeling like, oh, man, the most vicious dude of our life, Mike Tyson.

[Covino]

But dude, do you remember the video game Ring King or were you like a punch out guy?

[Rich]

Ring King, I was more of a punch out.

[Covino]

If you got hit with an uppercut in the video game Ring King flying out there, you flew. He flew out the ring. That was his last moment. That's what I'm saying. Like the first time I ever heard this.

[Rich]

Wait, hold on. Did that do that sound effect again? Oh, I thought that was a three pointer in double dribble.

[Covino]

No, that's you getting excited for the.

[Rich]

Games next week when I see Fred Warner practicing.

[Covino]

Yeah, no, it's actually more of a pink. Pause.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

You know, the first time I heard this, it was a morbid thought.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I remember when my, my grandpa died, my pop. Pop good man. Right. Grandpappy passed away. They didn't want me to go to the funeral. I was a teenager. But they're like, nah, nah, we don't want you to see your grandfather like that. Remember him how he was.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

And that was like the first time.

[Rich]

I had that thought.

[Covino]

Like, yeah, like you want to remember someone at their best, you know, not. Not at their worst, especially as a young kid like that. Right. You want to remember Aaron, one of the goats, the greats of all time, being clobbered in the head like that, throwing desperate passes, getting picked off, losing like that in the fourth quarter in a big playoff game. Dude, that was straight up embarrassing. And like I said, there's nothing you could do about it. And I'm not trying to, to, to, to like add to it. Right. But it was what it was. So the question is. Well, there's a two part question. Does he come back? And I say, absolutely not. Absolutely not.

[Rich]

And unfortunately, that's it.

[Covino]

Yeah, but was that the weakest exit?

[Rich]

Well, did you remember before Tom Brady came back and won a Super bowl and then had a great, even his last game when the Bucks Got eliminated. He had a great playoff game. But you remember when we thought he might retire after the Patriots, A pick six in the postseason to lose a game was. Yeah, how he couldn't stomach it. That's why part of the reason he said he came back at that time.

[Covino]

Right. This is the opposite of John Elway. Like, you could say John Elway had the greatest exit. Right. Aaron Rodgers, for his career. First of all, you have to have a legendary career to even be in this conversation. So props again. I'm not trying to be mean. We're. None of us are trying to be mean about it. We all watched this last night, rooting for the dude. When you have a legendary career that he had 20 something years in the NFL, the old guy, you're rooting for him and you go out like that.

[Danny G]

He's like, oh, dude, does it go away with time?

[Covino]

It will.

[Danny G]

We're in the moment right now. I mean, yeah, Rich doesn't remember Jerry Rice in a Seahawks uniform.

[Covino]

Yeah, it's forgotten. I heard other people talking about that. Someone I think might have been Dan Patrick. I forgot who I was listening to, but something about like, no one remembers Dan. Dan Marino's like, last game. What a stinker that was. I mean, people have stinkers. You don't. It's on our conscious radar right now. It's. It's prisoner of the moment.

[Danny G]

But we do live in a different world right now. Back then with Marino, there was no social media TikTok all that to keep reminding everybody.

[Covino]

Eclipse didn't live as. As prominent as they do right now. And I just think, yeah, that's. It's just an unfortunate way to go out. And I guess maybe how about to soften the blow, we just bring up other ones, like, hey, you're not the only one, Rogers.

[Rich]

You're not alone.

[Covino]

You don't get to choose how you go out sometimes.

[Rich]

There was one this year that had all the ingredients for ultimate sadness and disappointment, and it ended up working out. I remember I'm not even a fan. I was on the edge of my seat with a nervous stomach for Clayton Kershaw that inning. When he came in, I became a Dodgers fan for a minute because I'm like, please let this guy go out on this high note. They bring him in a high leverage situation. Bases juiced, if I remember, and it's like, we're going to Kershaw. We're bringing in the left hand.

[Covino]

That was so risky.

[Rich]

And I remember thinking when it was a full count, I'm like, oh, don't walk a guy. Please don't walk.

[Covino]

You're messing with the game, but you're messing with the storyline of this guy's career.

[Rich]

And when he got out of that and they picked hand to his family, I shed a little bit of a tear. I believe that was a moment that you, you pray for, but that was not Aaron Rodgers story last night. Now, Aaron Rodgers know what I said, Danny? I hit up Kavino at the end of the game after it seemed out of reach, I go, maybe Aaron Rodgers has one like two minute drill drive. He throws one more touchdown and it's sort of like they lose the game. But hey, you got one more little glimpse of moving the ball downfield. Nope, nope. That's just not how it goes.

[Covino]

Bad lasting image, bad exits in the fight game. It happens that way a lot. I have a dumb question, because people stick around way too long. They don't know when to quit. And maybe that's the case here. I don't think that is the case because, I mean, Aaron Rodgers, they went 10 and seven.

[Rich]

I have a great question.

[Covino]

It's just they went up against a really tough defense and it made them look bad.

[Rich]

I said it's a dumb question and a great question. Why not both? I want everyone in the room to be honest with themselves. Have you ever thought about the last time you were intimate with someone? I knew. I knew you were gonna say that. And you wonder, like, you might have dated someone for a long time.

[Covino]

You gotta give them one last double up.

[Rich]

Almost like if the last time you were with someone was really good, you could almost walk away being like, all right, she'll remember. Versus if it was like awkward, bad makeup sex and it was bad and the relationship was over. You're like, I don't want her to remember.

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, Like a lot.

[Rich]

I don't know what you're talking about.

[Covino]

Playboy. Yeah.

[Rich]

Ryan's like, I only deliver.

[Covino]

Yeah, that's right.

[Danny G]

Pizza.

[Covino]

That's why they call him Big Papa.

[Rich]

What's his name?

[Monty]

Monsieur Ryan.

[Rich]

Okay, Papa bear. Thank you.

[Covino]

Sexy Ryan.

[Danny G]

Rich. Something that was noticeable at the end of the game. And Brenda watched the Ravens game with me the week prior. Have you ever seen a crowd in a moment and a player and a coach celebrate with their fans?

[Caller]

And.

[Danny G]

And then one week later, it was like that, that scene that we saw. Like, they were so joyous. Remember, the camera kept panning on the fans celebrating and Tomlin, Tomlin did his beating on the chest and we were like, oh, my God, Aaron Rodgers got some magic left and then to go from that to this in one week.

[Covino]

Danny G. To make it even worse, at his home game, they were chanting for him to retire. How embarrassing is that? Like, that's not how legends should go out. That's why. Please, please don't think we're piling on. We're. At least I'm not anyway.

[Danny G]

No, they were boobirs.

[Covino]

They were booing him, telling him to retire. You know, even after the game, it got even uglier.

[Danny G]

And that's what Tomlin has been going through there in Pittsburgh.

[Covino]

But it's not like Aaron Rodgers handled it with like a smirk and like, hey, what are you going to do? I gave it my all. He was angry. It was bitter, it was sad, it was ugly.

[Rich]

It's.

[Covino]

And that's sports, and that's why we love it. It's, it's, it's drama. But legends, in our, in our minds, legends aren't supposed to go out that way. It's.

[Rich]

It's not just, it's not just players. It's sometimes a legendary coach like Bill Belichick right now is his final chapter. We remember, like, like some mediocre week UNC campaign in college. Is that.

[Covino]

That's another one. Yeah.

[Rich]

Is that where we're.

[Covino]

But I feel like that's not completely written. Now.

[Rich]

This guy, this guy paved the way for everyone, including us in this room. So this is not trash talking, but sometimes I look at a Howard Stern type, and he was the king of all media. No one cooler. He was like, like, we're talking the face of radio. Like, Howard Stern made radio king of.

[Covino]

All media for a reason. He had the number one movie at one point, the number one soundtrack, the number one radio show. He was number one in every media platform that was available.

[Rich]

In fact, you could argue that our longevity at Sirius XM only was because he joined that company and made it what it was.

[Covino]

And just for anyone who's new to us, side note, as a, as a teenager, I was working at KROC New York, so I was able to witness the mega stardom of what this dude did for radio. So I worked with those dudes on my come up.

[Rich]

I'm not saying he's on his way out, but I doubt he loves the fact that he watched the world of podcasting swoop in and sort of replace his.

[Covino]

Well, so happens his, like around that, right?

[Rich]

Like, yeah. So why. I always said that Letterman and guys like that dipped out at the right time because they realized they were legends.

[Covino]

But there's beauty in that right. And you know, you question guys like Barry Sanders or whoever called it quits earlier than than we had thought and you say, well, hey, they went on their terms. So other examples we gave you Bernard Hopkins look it up by the way, because I know it sounds unbelievable. The guy went flying through the ring, off out of the ring. Ring got airtime out of the ring.

[Rich]

I think your your description is going to be better than the actual video. So I'm just going to picture Bernard hop dude.

[Covino]

He like high jumped out of the ring.

[Rich]

All right, well listen, we got more Kavino and Rich, your examples. I see the phones are hot. So let's go 87799 on Fox the the worst farewells in sports and entertainment, the worst exits. And we'll talk a little Tomlin, a little coaching, a little like where where does this guy go next? We'll talk about all that. But I promise you, Covino, Rich, more next. Now DraftKings sportsbook, the number one sportsbook for live betting, is turning up the stakes for every DraftKings customer with over 2.5 million in prizes up for grabs every Sunday during NFL playoffs.

[Covino]

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[Rich]

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[Covino]

We ain't going out like that. We ain't going out like that.

[Rich]

Scooby Doo.

[Covino]

The more and more I think about this, I know I'm making it overly dramatic, but this is Aaron Rodgers, 21 years in the league.

[Rich]

I know you say people don't remember, but our buddy Mouser hit us up, who was a big Dolphins fan. He goes, yeah, I remember Dan Marino losing like 60 to 7 in his last game, and they got stomped in the playoffs. And it was embarrassing. For a guy like Dan Marino, does.

[Covino]

That hurt his legacy? The answer is no. No, it does not. But Danny G's right. Those highlights don't live the way these live. And. And Dan Marino is not as hateable in my opinion, or divisive as Aaron Rodgers is. So people want to lean into that. Like, look at him getting clobbered.

[Rich]

He did. Who's an Ace Ventura?

[Covino]

Yeah, but Aaron Rodgers, I think, garners a different level of criticism. 21 years in the league. Put it in perspective. Rich. Ready? You and I started this show, Covino and rich, actually in 04, but really in 05, the end of 04. Right. That's when Aaron Rodgers football career started in 2005. So imagine playing all this time and your last show was a stinker. You know what I mean? Like, that's his last game.

[Danny G]

Everything was off kilter. You two kept stepping on top of each other, right? You had a big guest and halfway through it disconnected on the phone.

[Covino]

Or someone comes in and clobbers us on the head and everyone sees it, you know, Like, I get it, sports, but no one wants to go out that way. You want to go out like John Elway. You want to go out like, like Scarface and Half Baked.

[Rich]

F you. F you. F You, you're cool. F you.

[Covino]

I'm out. You want to go out on your own terms. And when you're a legend like that, yes, it's rare. And it doesn't have to be like you're hoisted off like you're Rudy or something. But it shouldn't also be like this. This is like what movies are made out of. Like, like, sort of like Shakespearean in a way. Like, he went down bad last night.

[Rich]

Big, big sexy run.

[Covino]

I know.

[Rich]

You're a wrestling fan, right?

[Covino]

Yes, I am.

[Rich]

How'd you feel about the. The John Cena fair? It was horrible. A guy who says he's never gonna give up, don't quit, yada, yada, yada, what happens? He gives up. But is it there irony in that? I know fans were sort of split on that. I know it's sports entertainment, but that's. It kind of kills the character for me, you know, I didn't expect him to, like, win, but what they should have done is have him just pass out because he would not give up.

[Covino]

I heard he's going to be the new Ernest P. Worrell. Is that true?

[Rich]

He does look like Ernest these days.

[Covino]

John Cena saves Christmas. Listen.

[Rich]

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[Monty]

I actually have because I think my mom accidentally bought dude wipes.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

They are.

[Monty]

I was like, all right, well, at least this smells good.

[Covino]

Stick around for Monty's update. We got Papa Bear here. We got Danny G on the phones at 87799 on Fox. Of course we're gonna get to Tomlin. I put him and his career and. And Rogers sort of, well, together.

[Rich]

It's Kavino. And I said it from the minute we woke up this morning, Danny, it's been Tomlin, Tomlin, Tomlin, Tomlin. We'll get to it. But I figure let's kick our show off with Aaron Rodgers in a little different twist because when it comes to.

[Danny G]

Aaron Rodgers, you two can't help yourselves.

[Rich]

I was go, I was a little Tomlin doubt, but now I'm ready to dive in. But let's say hi to Syracuse and Tim. What's up, Timmy?

[Tim]

Tim, gentlemen, hi. First time caller. I'll try to make this quick. You know, I'm calling about the Steelers and I'm not even a Steeler fan, but my point is this. First of all, the oc, you know, what are you doing? You know, I know you're only given the players you have and that reflects on what the gm. So Metcalf is your best player and you had to buy them so you don't draft well. And then the OC makes these crazy calls, for example, sprint out Rogers knowing they're not expecting the run, simple things but you know, they don't continue it. And, and I don't, I, you know, I kind of want to feel bad for Tomlin, but at the end of the day he allowed all those terrible calls and Metcalf's a pain in the neck and I know this. But, but I just think that there's a lot more to it with the OC and the GM and I'll leave you.

[Rich]

It's going to be wild in the.

[Covino]

It's not all on Rogers, it's not all on Tomlin, but Arthur Smith is their oc. By the way, them together collectively, man, put out a stinkeroo last night in the fourth quarter and they did kind.

[Danny G]

They, it did seem that they were out schemed. And I talked to a longtime Steelers friend of mine this morning and he said I love Tomlin because he's kind of like Emano. You know, he's, he's like a man's man and he, he has the vibe of my team will just punch your team in the mouth, he said. But what Ben Johnson is proving in Chicago is you could be both tough and smart. And he said, I want a young and upcoming offensive mind that can scheme with, you know, the best of them.

[Rich]

And that's sort of a question I think we're going to get to a little bit. But let's take one more from Tripp in Vegas and we'll go to Mossy for an update. What's up, Tripp? How are you, man?

[Caller]

I'm good. Gentlemen, I got a comment, a question and a couple of examples. The comment is Monty's always looking good in the 20 year anniversary shirt. And then my question is for Rich, was it a nervous stomach or a tummy Ache.

[Covino]

Tell me.

[Rich]

I know that I have tummy ache.

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[Caller]

And in my examples, world not legacy. They're just bad farewells. Nameless got bench. And then I didn't like seeing Muhammad Ali getting knocked out or not knocked out, but beat by Trevor Burbitt. And then Manny Ramirez, where did he go? He just got lost.

[Rich]

Yeah, Manny did get lost in the spot.

[Covino]

How about Robbie Cano? Dude, that's a pretty tragic sort of ending. He was playing for the SpongeBob SquarePant League.

[Rich]

That was. That was actually.

[Covino]

He had a great season in Mexico. Was. It was last year. But the ultimate.

[Rich]

The ultimate, like, embarrassing moment was when Robbie Cano. You saw him in that, like, minor league. It was spongebob night. And here he is, a guy that you know at one point, like one of the famer, one of the greats. Robbie Canoe's wearing a SpongeBob shirt.

[Monty]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Come on.

[Covino]

You know, ste. Minor leagues, not the. The exit you wanted. And there's so many ways to think about this. And again, it's just life. Guys, we're speculating. Who knows how your story's gonna end? And I'm not talking about your life. I'm talking about your career. We don't know. So I'm not trying to be mean, but it's like, it makes me think of, like, Roseanne and how criticized that got when Roseanne was.

[Rich]

Everyone loved her. And then all of a sudden, the last. Now she's like, you know, right wing enemy, people.

[Covino]

You know, the first. When the first. First series ended, wasn't it all a dream? And people were like, wait a second. So the whole storyline was a stupid dream she had. That's how the show ended. Right, of course. And then on the comeback of the show, she got swept off. So weak. The weakest. Yeah.

[Rich]

I mean, let's. Let's. Let's hope that does happen to any of you. All right, Monty, what's going on? Give us a little update, pal.

[Monty]

Guys, Aaron Rodgers is coming back next year. I don't.

[Rich]

I don't know how or where.

[Monty]

Yeah, like, but it's gonna happen.

[Covino]

The more I let the simmer, I think about how he made it worse by how he acted at the end and how you have to come back.

[Monty]

You have to come back. Also blame Philip Rivers, because if Philip Rivers came off the couch, he's probably like, if you're going to call me off the couch in week eight, nine, ten, I might as well just play. I think he's playing another year. Even though I thought that before the bad ending. It was bad. Didn't it end on a pick six? Wasn't that his last throw? Yeah, you can't end that.

[Rich]

And then he, then he missed the guy trying to push him out of bounds.

[Danny G]

Yeah, it really ended with him getting shoved out of bounds.

[Monty]

He really tried, though. At least he tried. He went out there, he tried to tackle.

[Covino]

You know what if it was his last hurrah? Yeah, that's the reaction I think we would have gotten. Like, hey guys, I get, hey, man, I came back from a bad injury, we made the playoffs, I gave it everything I could. Smirk a little bit, shrug. He was too angry to not come back.

[Rich]

I love, I love the shot he gave at the jets, though. He goes, I've had the honor to play for two great organizations.

[Monty]

Yes, he did. Yes, he did. He knew what he was saying. All right, well, Aaron Rodgers, we don't know if he's going to return to the Steelers. We do know Mike Tomlin is not returning to the Steelers. He stepped down today after 19 seasons, but all winning seasons. So good for him on that. Eagles have fired offensive coordinator Kevin Patullo after one season, so Philadelphia is looking for their fifth offensive coordinator in five years. ESPN reports that Marcus Freeman still expected to remain at Notre dame for the 2026 season. There's a lot of rumors that NFL teams are trying to get him to cross to the dark side. Apparently he's going to stay. Chargers have already offensive coordinator Greg Roman and offensive lineman coach Mike Devlin. Brian Dabel, former Giants coach, is going to interview for the Titans head coaching job on Friday, while today the Ravens completed an interview with Vikings defensive coordinator Brian Flores for their head coaching vacancy. When it comes to the NBA, ESPN reports that Anthony Davis is likely to undergo surgery to repair ligament damage in his left hand and miss several months. But AD tweeted, quote, y' all better stop listening to all these lies on these apps. Anthony Davis tweeted that after the news came out that he's apparently done for several months. Lakers stars LeBron James and Luka Doncic are questionable for tonight's game against the Hawks. And in case you missed it, in baseball, the Diamondbacks are acquiring eight time All Star third baseman Nolan Arenado in a trade with the St. Louis Cardinals.

[Rich]

I love how you say Arenado.

[Monty]

Arenado.

[Rich]

Arenado.

[Monty]

Arenado.

[Covino]

You know what I love more than that? The sweet shirt you're wearing.

[Monty]

Oh, thank you.

[Rich]

Know what I would love more than that? If you told me Fred Warner's gonna play. But I know it's not gonna happen this week. Week.

[Monty]

It's not going to happen this week. They've opened his practice window, but they hope he returns for the NFC title game.

[Rich]

And did you leave out Kyle Tucker to the Mets or.

[Monty]

That's not for sure yet, but apparently they offered him a deal that's 50 million a year. But the Blue Jays are also in this mix.

[Rich]

The Mets need something to happen. We got more coming on, Rich. We'll talk a little about everything. In fact, Tomlin. I have a theory about Tomlin. It has to do with wife swapping.

[Covino]

Ooh, sounds juicy. What?

[Rich]

Yes, you heard me. More CNR next right here.

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[Rich]

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[Rich]

Aaron Rodgers. We're sorry that went down like that. But hey, you know, see NFL playoffs.

[Covino]

Man, he ain't going out like that.

[Rich]

You hit a team that had won nine in a row.

[Covino]

I mean, yeah, you hit a hot team. It's bound to happen. And man, they just, man, they just got clobbered at the end. Hey, Covino and Rich here, by the way. FOX Sports Radio live from the FOX Sports Radio studio. And it's time for our tire rack play of the day. Speaking of, will this play be the last time we ever see Aaron Rodgers playing on an NFL field. Oh boy, I hope not.

[Rich]

On 4th and 5, Rogers looks it over. Here's the snap. Rodgers in the pocket. Rogers flinging it downfield and picked off at the first 50. Bullock to his left. 40, 35, 30. Bullock 20. Bullock upended at the sideline, maintains his balance and runs for pay dirt.

[Covino]

Wow.

[Rich]

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[Covino]

And keep in mind this is fresh. We all witnessed this last night and not everyone has the luxury of going out on top. That's just not how life is, right? Think about every great movie. It really is like a movie right with it with a tragic ending. Every great movie. I'm thinking of my guy from my Hometown of Union, New Jersey, Ray Liotta in the 19. Is it 90 or 91? Good film. Henry Hill. All those guys were on top of the world. I mean, they were committing crimes, but they were living the life. 1990 Goodfellas. They were living their life. What happens at the end with Henry Hill? He's in witness protection in his slippers. You know, this guy was, he was living the high life, making cash money, eating at the best restaurants. And where is he again? Wearing a robe, reading the paper like he's a nobody from nowhereville. And that's what he talks about at the end of the movie. That's just how it ends.

[Rich]

Sometimes you see it in sports, you see it in life, you see it in entertainment. You know, sometimes you see some man or woman that's been a baller in the business world running companies and then like, you know, eventually they just got to be removed.

[Covino]

What is Henry Hill saying? Look at me, look at me now. I'm a schlub. He says something about schlub and that's probably how Aaron Rodgers feels. But will we remember that? Is that the lasting memory?

[Rich]

No.

[Covino]

No, it won't be. I don't think it will be. So I think he should feel confident in knowing that his legacy stands before him and you know, he's a Super bowl champ and that's really what's going to be remembered. At the end of the day, I don't need to come back, but I think there's a chance he will.

[Rich]

I know something that bothers you. Give it to me that Mike Tomlin coached for their. For the Steelers. 19 years.

[Covino]

Yeah. I hate that.

[Rich]

I do hate that Camino is one of those, like, ocd. Like, why not?

[Covino]

I thought they were going to have a little. Let's go one more. Get the 20, get his little Steelers pin, and they would agree together. Like, let's go one more year together. Because they seem to have a good.

[Danny G]

Nobody else cares about even numbers.

[Rich]

Kavino, when you listen to a game, does your TV sound have to be on an even number, or do you go by the fives?

[Covino]

I can't do it. Yeah, it has to be by the fives. Fives every five. Yeah, fives.

[Rich]

Your volume can't be on, like, 31.

[Covino]

No, I don't like that. No bothers me.

[Rich]

Go to Covino's house and just mess with his volume. All right, so you got. I said, mike Tomlin, I had a thought, and it has to do with. Remember that show Wife Swap?

[Covino]

I do.

[Rich]

I remember Celebrity Wife Swap. Do you remember Celebrity Wife Swap? I feel like there was an episode where it was like, who's the guy? That's like, Rico Suave.

[Covino]

Gerardo.

[Rich]

Gerardo was on there. There was some wild characters on Celebrity Wife Swap. There was one with Ric Flair and Rowdy. Rowdy Piper, one with Flavor Flav and D. Snider. And I bring this up because. Because it's wild. The concept of that show is not dirty and sexual. The concept of the show is live with someone else's spouse for a week or so, and you start to see, hey, maybe where I'm coming up short. Or, hey, maybe you start to acknowledge what's really great about your partner, because they might be better than you think. Like, if you and your girlfriend Kavino did a wife swap with Monsie and her boyfriend Sean. Whoa. Again, nothing kinky. Say again, nothing kinky. Okay, but wouldn't there be a sense of. I'm sure there's things that Covina would do where you're like, oh, how annoying. But then there's things where he would do. He'd be like, I wish Sean did that.

[Monty]

Probably.

[Rich]

And you know what? I have a theory on it, and it has to do with coaching. And we'll get to it.

[Monty]

Next, this is an I heart podcast.

[Covino]

Guaranteed human.