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Aaron Torres
What'S the saying, Aaron Torres? Can't we just let sleeping dogs lie? Is that the, is that the the phrase? I believe that the the old adage of what is done is done. Let it be and move on. That is not happening with the dynasty that is the New England Patriots. Welcome in. It is a Wednesday. You made it through half of the week. You got a few more days to go, but you're on the backside of it. So congratulations. Not only is Aaron Torres here with me, so is Jason Stewart, Ryan Smith and Monty belanos. In about 23 minutes or so, ultimate fail in one of our favorite game shows, we're gonna bring it to you and break it down like only Cavino and Rich would. That's all coming up on a Wednesday here on Fox Sports Radio as Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick are at it again. Not only are the two sides apparently on opposite sides, the last time, Aaron, that I remember these two really going at it was privately over one Tom Brady and Jimmy Garoppolo and who the sides wanted to keep. And ultimately Robert Kraft says, we're keeping Tom Brady. So Jimmy Garoppolo, you're going to be sent to the San Francisco 49ers. There was no heir apparent at that time for New England, so Robert Kraft wins that one. Bill Belichick ends up leaving as the Patriots coach. We now know he's the head coach at North Carolina, but these two apparently have a different sort of view in their history of how things went down with the Patriots and really how things started with the New England Patriots.
Monty Belanos
It is the story that just will not die. And I know this is going to be a theme over the next 15, 20 minutes as we discuss this conversation, but I will say this is that the thing that I, I, I guess annoying is the right word. I, I find this story to be a little bit boring and annoying. Not that I don't think we should be talking about it. I'm the one that kind of mentioned it to you this morning. But the thing about the Patriots dynasty is it's over. Brady's gone. Belichick's gone. Gronk's gone. Edelman's gone. Bruski's gone.
Aaron Torres
Vrabel was gone.
Monty Belanos
I guess he's technically back. The only person that is still there from the glory days is Robert Kraft. But that era of Patriots football is over. And so no matter whose side you're on, Belichick, Brady, Kraft. Belichick had nothing to do with it. Belichick was the whole thing. Your opinion isn't going to change because there is no new info. But we got two old guys. Yeah. Have you ever seen that video of the two, like, CFL football players that haven't seen each other in years and they start fighting in the retirement home and they're, like, swinging their canes at each other? That's what this is. There's nothing that can change anyone's opinion on what happened with the Patriots, no matter how many times Robert Kraft talks about it, no matter how many times Bill Belichick responds. And that's the fascinating part to me is that on July 16th of 2025, what is. What is this now? Five full years after Tom Brady left New England, Belichick released a statement in mid July to talk about it. It's just. It's wild to me that these two guys care so much about this thing all these years later.
Aaron Torres
Well, that's because Robert Kraft was on the Dudes on Dudes podcast hosted by Gronk and Julian Edelman, and said, this is. And this is Kraft's revisionist history. I'll give you a setup of how Belichick ended up responding. But what Kraft said was that in 1999, when he hired Bill Belichick, he was the one that took the biggest risk. He's. Oh, we have the audio from it. Let's hear it. Let's hear. Yeah. Better than me. Let's hear from Robert Kraft. I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the Patriots in 1999 was a big risk, and I got hammered in the Boston media, but I think he was with us for 24 years and we did okay. So Robert Kraft. We did okay. Yeah. Explaining his reasoning on how he was the risk taker that started the Patriots dynasty. There is no. There is no debating that the Patriots took a different turn with Robert Kraft as their owner. But what an interesting sort of, I don't know, domino effect, because when Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and Robert Kraft were together, they were winning Super Bowls. They were playing in Super Bowls. They were a perennial contender year in and year out, and the best dynasty. Dynasty that we've seen in National Football League history. So then Brady leaves, and guess what? The Patriots are kind of mid before ultimately just falling flat. Then Belichick leaves, and they've still been after another year with Gerard Mayo as their head coach, completely flat. So now you've subtracted Belichick, and the team took a downward spiral. And so now Robert Kraft is the only one there. This is where I think Robert Kraft is. We'll get to Belichick's part. This is why I think Robert Kraft is saying this, number one, because he's the only one left. And so you think to yourself, well, then, okay, well, Robert Kraft had nothing to do with this. This is all Brady and Belichick. I also think Robert Kraft wants to go into the hall of Fame.
Monty Belanos
Sure.
Aaron Torres
And. And at some point, he's been up for consideration as well. We've seen owners in there, and he probably wants to go in. As morbid as this sounds, before he dies, he wants that honor.
Monty Belanos
So.
Aaron Torres
So now, if no one's going to toot your horn and tell you what you've done, why don't you do it? If you're Robert Kraft, that's an important.
Monty Belanos
Point, because, you know, the one guy that gets, at least in my opinion, maybe you disagree. That gets. It's a question of Belichick. Brady, Brady, Belichick. And depending on what point we had this conversation in the last 20 years, there's a different percentage for different guys. Right. At certain points, it was more Belichick. Then it was more Brady. Then it was more Belichick. Then Brady leaves, He wins the Super Bowl. Now, I think most people would agree that it was more Belichick than BR or more Brady than Belichick. The guy that never gets talked about is Robert Kraft. And, you know, he was the only one there besides those two for all of that entire era. And I. I do think he deserves some credit. You know, kind of stayed out of the way. He probably deserves, actually a lot of credit because he wasn't a helicopter owner. He wasn't, you know, Matt Ishbia or somebody demanding to be involved or wanting to be involved or being overly involved. He let the football people do the football stuff. He let the players play. Um, but that's probably part of it too, is like, he's probably like, hey, it wasn't just these two guys. I was. I. I have been involved from day one as well. So maybe that's why he wants to be involved. Or he's tooting his own horn.
Aaron Torres
I'm sure he feels left out. Yes, But Belichick, especially when the Apple TV documentary came out, felt that he was completely thrown under the bus by it. So Belichick couldn't say much to reporters throughout his career. Now is feeling like he has to defend his honor. In response to what you just heard from. From Robert Kraft. The funny thing is, is on the craft side of things. Like, I truly don't know. And I was thinking back in time trying to think of different ownership groups that I felt were instrumental in them winning championships. And I can only think of the one that I thought was Dr. Jerry Buss. Yes, fair in. In relation to. To what the. What the Lakers were. But it's also of Dr. Jerry Buss providing an atmosphere and doing so in a spot to get the best players, to always get the superstar, and then bring in other big names around him. Now, I don't remember anything in offhand in the National Football League. Jerry Jones, we know, say it's the.
Monty Belanos
Exact opposite with Jerry Jones. Doesn't feel like he got enough credit.
Aaron Torres
I think that the Steelers dynasty is. Wasn't. Wasn't Rooney based, even though it's always been Rooney ownership. Like, there's. It's. It's a legacy. It's within the family. But we just rarely have owners getting credit for their championships and their titles. And for some reason, Robert Kraft wants that recognition.
Monty Belanos
Yeah, no, and. And that is an interesting point of. You know, I'm just trying to think here off the top of my head. You know, the other one, too, the Hunt family. It's not like the Hunt people were like, well, you know, you know, as good as. As good as Mahomes is, you know, who doesn't get enough credit for Clark Hunt? So I do think it's interesting, by the way.
Aaron Torres
Yeah. Andy Reed, Patrick Mahomes, I know they.
Monty Belanos
Didn'T really do anything for 30 years before Reed got there, but don't forget about Clark Hunt. Let me. Let me tell you about him. No, what was I gonna say? The belt. But then the Belichick response as well. I don't know if we want to get into that element. Yeah, let's do it.
Aaron Torres
Let's do it.
Monty Belanos
So.
Aaron Torres
So this statement that Belichick responded to espn when asked about it, Belichick says that he was the one that basically took the big risk. Here's the statement. Quote, as I told Robert multiple times through the years, I took a big risk by taking the New England Patriots head coaching job. I already had an opportunity to be the head coach of the New York jets, but the ownership situation was unstable. I had been warned by multiple previous Patriots coaches, as well as other members of the media and NFL organizations that the New England job was going to come with many internal obstacles. I made it clear that we would have to change the way the team was managed to regain the previously attained success. That part of the statement that, that Bill Belichick made about taking the job in New England.
Monty Belanos
Can I say something that's the least controversial thing ever, is that they both took risks and they are both partly responsible, I wouldn't say equally responsible in the success of that dynasty. They did take risk. Cause what's the, what's the argument about Belichick? What has he won without Brady? I know he made the playoffs with the Cleveland Browns, but wasn't the greatest coach that ever lived until he had Tom Brady. But he's also right in that he had another job with the New York jets and actively chose to not take that job to come, to come to be the New England Patriots head coach. So it's just, you know, I guess the thing I, I, I think it is interesting how I think both these guys, to your point, not only Robert Kraft, you know, being at the end of his life, wanting to get into the Pro Football hall of Fame, but obviously Belichick, you know, in his, what we assume, final chapter at North Carolina, kind of wanting to rewrite his history as well. I guess just the thing that I do keep coming back to is I just don't know that no matter what either of them says, it's going to change anyone's opinion. If you believe Brady was 95% of the reason, there's nothing Belichick's gonna say, nothing Craft is gonna say. If you think it's more 50, 50, that's fine. But I just, I don't think there's anything that's gonna change anyone's opinion at this point.
Aaron Torres
I have loved Bill Belichick talking about football, and I felt that when he did the NFL 100 thing, where I think he was nominated for an Emmy at that point, it was really, really good. And I think that Bill Belichick loves to talk about football. And Bill Belichick can be a funny guy. Didn't he wear a navy outfit like on at the Army, Navy game when it was played at Foxborough, I think, or something where he dressed up in his old Navy gear to like, that's. There is a part of Belichick that is the guy that we don't know in the press that we saw for so many years. So there is a different sort of guy. I think lately with his relationship with Jordan Hudson, it's really altered people's thinking of who Belichick is. But I feel at heart Belichick is actually someone who just loves football and is kind of a funny guy. You just don't realize it. I think we all have those people in your lives. You're like, you know what? That person is very funny, very witty. We know that Belichick knows everything that there is about football, but you don't know that. That personality. And I think that's there with Belichick. But again, like I said with the Apple TV thing, like I said with the argument of Brady, and it sure didn't help Belichick's argument when Brady goes and wins a Super bowl with Tampa Bay. No one's taking up for Bill Belichick.
Monty Belanos
True.
Aaron Torres
No one is going to bat for Bill Belichick. Not even the guy that hired him in the late 1990s. And now that guy is saying that he's the one that. That took the risk. The only reason that Bill Belichick ended up being on Robert Kraft's, I guess, short list and bringing him in was because of his experience that he had with Bill Parcells when they were together winning or going to a Super bowl in the mid-1990s. So that's where I think it's unfair to Belichick to say, and Belichick did leave the jets and how the jets situation went down with Bill Parcells. That was all kind of a mess that Belichick was caught up in as well. But I just. This revisionist history, looking back at who took the risk and who did this and who did that, I. It just, it. It falls on a lot of deaf ears. That's why you think. I think, think that you're saying this is kind of a non story as well, because the Patriots dynasty is what it is. And I don't know how many people care who takes credit for getting the thing started, whether it be Craft or Bill Belichick.
Monty Belanos
Yeah. This is a story that is very clearly, deeply personal to these two individuals. Is it a story to anybody? I mean, listen, the Brady versus Belichick angle to. It will be a. A sports talk debate that withstands the test of time. Right? But this. This idea that Kraft either didn't get enough credit or we're trying to diminish Belichick, it just feels extremely personal. It's why during the Tom Brady roast, everything flew up until it was time for Robert Kraft and. And Bill. Bill Belichick to take a shot together. That was that. Think about all the things that they said about Tom Brady during that Tom Brady roast, including about his. For his now ex wife. None of it seemed to. None of it seemed to cross a line. And the only time that it got weird was when Belichick and Kraft were asked to take a shot together. I'm just picturing it in my head right now as we speak. And so I. I just think that it is something that is very clearly, deeply personal to both of them. They do not like each other. I just think that while it's very interesting to them, it's two big names. It's one of the great runs in the history of sports that we've ever seen. I just don't know why we, as consumers are supposed to care, because again, there's no new chapters to it. It'd be like me and you today. It'd be. This is what it'd be like. It'd be like Peyton Manning releasing a statement on why he doesn't get enough credit for his role in the Manning vs Brady rivalry. You'd be like, well, who cares? It's over. It's been over. And it's just. I don't know. I just. I understand why both guys are passionate about protecting their legacy. I just don't know why it was a lead story on ESPN today, because I don't know why we, as consumers are supposed to care. And I certainly don't think there's anything new to the story that should drag us back in.
Aaron Torres
I think Belichick speaking and saying what he's saying, especially after the 60 Minutes debacle of what he's allowed to say is interesting. I also honestly just think it's really crappy of Robert Kraft to say something about Bill Belichick. What was more in the podcast was he said, I gave up a number one draft pick for a coach that had only won a little over 40% of his games to get him out. Yeah, it's a really crappy thing to do, to say, especially because I think we all look back at the 40%. We look at Bill Belichick's tenure in Cleveland as one of great success because he had the Browns as a playoff team and because the team ended up being then sold and. Or, excuse me, moving should say like the. The tenure ended abruptly, but you can't say that he didn't have success there. So for him to go and use that against Bill Belichick again after knowing everything about him from their time together in New England, I just think it's a really crappy thing for. For Robert Kraft to do. And what makes it worse is that it sure seems that Robert Kraft is trying to say that stuff to prop himself up. So Belichick has nothing else but to do but to actually defend his name, because it sure doesn't seem like anybody is rushing to his defense, especially. And this would tick me off as well, if Grok or Edelman aren't calling Kraft out in terms of what he said. So now you have former players who are, like it or not, inadvertently brought into the mix, and all of a sudden they look like they side with Robert Kraft. So if you're Bill Belichick, like him or not, like, it's a crappy spot to be in, and if nobody else is going to defend him, he might as well defend himself.
Monty Belanos
Yeah, that's interesting. I'm debating if I feel any different about Gronk and Edelman. I mean, you know, they're not journalists.
Aaron Torres
I think they're innocent, like bystanders. But they get drawn into it because Craft said it on their podcast and they didn't necessarily go up. And at least I don't hear anyone rebuttal to it.
Monty Belanos
And I'm not. I understand why Belichick would be mad, but it doesn't make any of us think any different about Belichick. Right. Like, it's no different than when, um, you know, LeBron does his podcast with KD and they're making fun of Jordan, taking time off to play baseball. It's like, doesn't make me. They're allowed to have their opinions. It doesn't make me feel different about Jordan, though. And. And it, again, that was something that was kind of crappy to say about Jordan, but doesn't make me, me as a consumer, feel different.
Aaron Torres
You know, we just talked about Wyndham Clark a little while ago and. And what Windham Clark was doing at the Oakmont locker room. Oakmont didn't have to release a statement. As I said, the US Open that comes around in 2033 is far down the line, but they decided to take a stand because that. They felt that there was a wrong. That's kind of why I think Belichick. Belichick could have just let it go off to the ether and been like, whatever. But they decided to take a stand or he decided to take a stand to, to defend his, his own honor into what he did. And I just think that the, the, the 40, you know, the 40% win or, you know, the 400 winning percentage is weird. Yeah, it's just kind of passing. Then he's like, but I think we did okay. And it tries to soften it, but it doesn't. Like, I, I'd be ticked off too, if I was Bill Belichick.
Monty Belanos
Yeah, you've kind of talked me into this a little bit because, you know, we've, I think in. Especially in our business, we're certainly not as high profile as Bill Belichick, but people say stuff about us all the time and there's sometimes that. I think we all decide to just say, screw it. I don't need to respond to everything, but there are certain things that are said by certain people that you're like, you know what? Screw that guy, screw that girl, whatever. I, I'm not letting that person say anything without me getting my side of the story out and letting you know how I really feel about that person. So maybe I think you've actually talked me into it. A little bit of why people. Maybe the statement from Belichick made a little bit more sense.
Aaron Torres
He's here in Torres. I'm Dan by our final thing. Do you think Bill Belichick needs to prove anything at North Carolina?
Monty Belanos
No, and I'll be very quick on this. I. And it relates to the Nick Saban story from Greg McElroy earlier this week. I don't think Saban's coming back, but I think Saban coming back would only hurt his legacy unless he leads another school to a national championship. But I don't think he, his legacy can get any higher. And I think Belichick's almost the opposite. I don't think people really have crazy high expectations for North Carolina. So, like, if he goes 7 and 5 and 6 and 6 and in two years he's just like, I'm out. I don't think it changes how we feel about Bill Belichick, the head coach. I do think it would change. If he has a great deal of success, we're like, oh, he actually was pretty good. And to your point, it wasn't just a thing with Brady. And you know, he did lead the Browns to the playoffs and he did have this great 20 year run with the Patriots, and he did lead Carolina to the an 11 and 1 season, remember when that happened? So I actually think it's the opposite. I think a good season or a good run elevates his legacy. I don't think that anything short of something truly a debacle like 1 in 11, whatever, I don't, unless that happens, I don't think it hurts his legacy much.
Aaron Torres
And they're not going to. I think that it could. I agree with you on building it up. I do think that it could hurt him in a way. I think almost North Carolina may have more of a risk in terms of the fallout. It hasn't been good like the, the what's going on in the headlines over these last couple of months and, and the girlfriend aspect of it. Like it hasn't been this rosy relationship and people are wondering, geez, he gonna make it to June 1st? Well, he did. He ended up making it that far as their head coach. But then you're wondering, all right, is this just a succession plan and so forth? But I think that there it may, I don't think it was a no brainer by any means, but I actually think that there could be fallout from hiring him. Whereas I don't think that North Carolina thought there was when they brought him on.
Monty Belanos
Yeah, really quickly on that point. I think it's an interesting one because with Belichick, you know, you're going to get kind of the snarky, mean spirited guy with the media that doesn't really give much access to anybody. But when he was with the Patriots, he's winning so much that it doesn't matter if he doesn't win at that level, which I think most of us don't think he's going to. Then you just kind of got an old, grumpy, mean guy as your head coach without any of the benefits of being maybe the greatest coach of all time.
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It's Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Beyer, in for the guys who just wrapped up their great coverage they had at the All Star Game in Atlanta over the past few Days as they were in for the Dan Patrick show. You're listening to us right now, but did you know you can also see us? Be sure to check out the fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube and you'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you always have instant access to our Fox Sports radio videos on YouTube. I'm a big game show fan. I love game shows since I was a kid. I don't know if people truly think of Jeopardy. As a game show. If it is, it's the highest level of it. Because I always felt growing up, Jeopardy. You just had to be smart. You had to be a. A really, really smart person. I know Jeopardy's a game show. The point I'm saying is I think growing up, I had prices, right? That we all still love. Let's Make a Deal. There's those shows going on. Jeopardy. Quiz show. You gotta know your stuff. It's not just like you get randomly picked. You can win $10,000. You gotta know your stuff. You gotta earn it. Jeopardy. Has changed throughout the years, and obviously Alex Trebek's passing ushered in Ken Jennings now as the new host. So there are things that are different, but I think it's taken a change. Jason Stewart is our executive producer. Aaron Torres, he is smitten by Jeopardy. And you record every night and watched last night's episode as well.
Monty Belanos
It's the one thing. And you. I know you guys could appreciate this. Everybody here, the one thing that you and your significant other can do, we block off 30 minutes and we watch Jeopardy. Every night. She kicks my ass. She gets like every. For every 10 answers she gets right, I get one. And it's fine. It's great. And something happened last night that was just extra special for us in the sports industry because we forget not everybody is as tapped into sports as we are.
Aaron Torres
Let's hear what happened on last night's Jeopardy. Episode when it came to this category. Can we hit for the cycle for 200? As you might guess, this hit is the rarest one in the cycle.
Monty Belanos
Ellie De La Cruz completed the feat with one. June 23, 2023.
Aaron Torres
Pete, what's the home run? No, Scott or Carl.
Monty Belanos
The triple. Much rarer than the home run. Okay, back to you, Pete.
Aaron Torres
Yeah, sorry, Pete. We're gonna take it from here. I want to break this down. Ryan, if you can get the. If you can get the pause button. Ready? Can you play that again? Can we hit for the cycle for 200? As you might guess this hit is the rarest one in the cycle.
Monty Belanos
Ellie De La Cruz completed the feat.
Aaron Torres
With one June 23rd.
Monty Belanos
Okay, so can I ask really quick? Was a cycle, like, was the cycle in baseball the entire category or was this one question in cycle related? It was like a kind of like an MLB All Star kind of like category. Baseball cycles. Yes. Okay.
Aaron Torres
Okay. And so basically, single, double, triple, and home run weren't all of the answers. Obviously, as you went along, they didn't know that this one was the answer that they needed. But I paused it at that point because this is my problem with Jeopardy. Right now. If you were maybe a Reds fan, like, you would. You would be like, oh, I remember when, you know, Ellie De La Cruz had that, that triple and he got the cycle. The question is, I feel in the old days would have been. It's the most difficult, you know, piece to get in the cycle. It would have just. That would have been the question. Now I feel that Jeopardy. Tries to lead you on and give you hints to dumb it down for the contestants. And, and to your point, as I told you this before, and you think it's for the list or the viewer at home?
Monty Belanos
Yeah. I mean, J. Stu plays with his significant other. I like watching it. And listen, nobody, nobody wants to feel too dumb where they're like, well, there's no reason for me to tune in because I can't get any of these questions right. I will say, though, to your point, I don't know if I've gotten smarter through the years. I don't think that's the answer. But it does feel like I'm getting more questions as time goes on.
Aaron Torres
Jason Stewart, you kind of know what I'm talking about. What's your theory on this? Like, these added little clues that they, that I feel that they put into these questions, or should I say answers?
Monty Belanos
So this is how nerdy we are on the weekends when there is not a new episode to watch. We watch Game Show Network prior episodes. So we've been watching a lot of the 20, 25 years ago when Ken Jennings was actually a contestant stuff. And I do, I think I noticed this. The questions back then I don't think were harder, but they definitely weren't as complicated. So I think the questions back then were easier and I really do think the questions now are harder and they need an explanation. Does that make sense? So, because I get a lot more correct answers from the shows from 20.
Aaron Torres
Years ago, I, I really, I think that these answers are leading. I think they are leading. You To a place. Monsieur, are you a Jeopardy. Viewer?
Dan Beyer
I am the person that Aaron said that doesn't watch because I feel stupid AF watching that. Cause I don't know a single answer. And even the sports ones, I'm like, I know it, but the wording is confusing me.
Monty Belanos
And how do I do this?
Dan Beyer
I hate Jeopardy. But I'll watch.
Aaron Torres
I think that there has been a quite a push and quite a turn. I felt that the reason you watched Jeopardy. Previously was because you were smart and Alex Trebek was the star, to Aaron's point. I think when you're competing at home, I think that that is a big part of it. I also think that Jeopardy. Is turned into a game where the host is no longer the star. It's the actual contestant. Jeopardy. Is better when Ken Jennings is there or James Holzhauer or Amy Johnson or any of their other, you know, great champions that they had for. For on those long streaks, because that's when you gain momentum. I think they fell onto something with Ken Jennings. And then now all of a sudden, you got Tournament of Champions, you got Tournament of Wild. You got all these different games. Like, that's. It's now been so much more about the contestant and the people at home that I think that Aaron Torres is right. You think the questions are harder? I think that they're much easier than what they used to be.
Monty Belanos
Let me give you an example. Just totally random example, and I'm probably getting the city wrong. But, like, they will start the question by saying she won her talent contest when she grew up in Flint, Michigan. And you're like, there's no way in hell I'm getting that. And then the lad. Then she became the Material Girl, you know, so it's like, it's impossible to get the first half, and then they fill you in with something easier. So I don't know if I'm making my point correct. They're harder questions that need filler. It seems nowadays when I look at both shows the contrast.
Aaron Torres
All right, let's get. Oh, sorry. Go ahead.
Monty Belanos
No, all. All I was gonna say, and we were talking about this a little bit before, but that's when I watched, like, with my wife. She gets. She's like, how did you know that? And I think. I don't know most of the answers. You need the context of, you know, hey, you know, this state capital that starts with Q is. And I don't think there is one, but you get the point. And then it's like, oh, well, that eliminates it down to three and then you just take a guess. And if you're smart, you know, if you. If you get one out of three.
Aaron Torres
Aaron used the letter E like in the pre show, talking about this. So I like, thought of a cue, like a clue, like, the category is esports. And then what. What they will do is they would say, like, this NHL city had a great run of championships in the 1980s.
Monty Belanos
Bingo.
Aaron Torres
Something to gush over. And then you'd be like, edmonton Oilers. You know, like, yeah, you know, to Aaron's point, like, okay, how many E cities are there in the NHL? And then. All right, well, then you. And then my point is you add the gushing part. Sure. Oh, there's a hint leading you to the. To the other answer. I get Jason's part, but I don't think it's as simplistic as his Material Girl clue.
Monty Belanos
See, the problem is we're all nerds. None of us are big enough nerds as J. Stu to go back and watch episodes from 25 years ago to have the full context. So.
Aaron Torres
But we're. We're. We're sports nerds. And I always feel dumb when they. Harold. They're like, let's do Shakespeare. That's when I leave. Like, you know, absolutely. Shakespeare for 2000. I don't even. I pick up my phone. Like, that's what I do at that point.
Monty Belanos
Well, my favorite one is Babylonia for 800. Who knows anything about Babylonia? What is that? So here's the question, though, as sports people, you'll see, like, the $2,000 sports question, and the answer will be like, this Buffalo Bills quarterback who just was on the fringe of a Super bowl, and we're like, obviously Patrick Mahomes. So for all these actual smart people, are they. Are they sitting there like, well, duh. It's obviously Romeo and Juliet.
Aaron Torres
Yes, I think they are 100%. I think there are. Obviously. Obviously. It was MCB. No. What are you, an idiot? That's what makes the last part of this. Can you just play the rest of it just quickly? Then we'll get to Mon, who's been waiting patiently for giving us the update. Go ahead and play the clue over if you. If you want.
Monty Belanos
20, 23. Pete, what's the home run?
Aaron Torres
No, Scott or Carl.
Monty Belanos
The triple.
Aaron Torres
That's rare.
Monty Belanos
That's.
Aaron Torres
Jason's favorite part, is the home run was wrong, by the way. He thought he was like, the home run. Matter of fact, yeah, suck it, Suck it. But that. And then the other two. Radio silence.
Monty Belanos
Well, the essence of this is that it's a $200 question. It's in the first round. There's literally no risk to getting it wrong. So once home runs taken off the board, you only. You're down to a multiple choice, which you know, you never get multiple choice on Jeopardy. So click in and pick one of the other three. You probably know it's not a single, but I'm thinking these people are such nerds and don't know anything about sports. They don't even know what the others are.
Aaron Torres
Yeah, that's what I thought. Grand slam. What is grand slam?
Monty Belanos
Well, did you guys saw the Paige Becker's Caitlin Clark clue the other day where the answer was Paige Becker's? They were like this women's basketball player and the first person who is Caitlin Clark, he's like, sorry, that's wrong. And then no one knew any other women's basketball player on the planet. So it's kind of incredible.
Aaron Torres
What is sacrifice bunt?
Monty Belanos
What's. Hey, Garen.
Aaron Torres
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Across the country, cops called this Taser the Revolution.
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It's Camino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio. He's Aaron Torres. I'm Dan Byer. Monty Belanos is here. Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith as we wrap up the show. Glad to have you with us, Aaron. And I'll be back tomorrow as well. Hanging out. We'll also be in for the Doug Gottlieb show. So looking forward to that open championship. First round will be wrapped up or nearly wrapped up when we hit the airways. So I'll have something to say about that. Whatever happens at a royal Port Rush, you heard the Jeopardy. Music. We're talking game shows because of this question that aired last night on Jeopardy. Can we hit for the cycle for 200? As you might guess, this hit is the rarest one in the cycle.
Monty Belanos
Ellie De La Cruz completed the feat with one. June 23, 2023.
Aaron Torres
Pete, what's the home run? No Ed Scott or Carl? Pete's so cocky.
Monty Belanos
Triple.
Aaron Torres
Like, seriously, like, what's the home run? Give me the four. No, it was wrong. He was about to Be like, I'll take Circle of life for 400. Whatever. The category was just so, so arrogant. And then I think the other players were scared off by his arrogance and didn't even want to take a chance at it because of how he looked foolish in that. That's a 200 question. So here's. Here's what I wanted to transition to with Wheel of Fortune. I think Wheel of Fortune backed by Jeopardy. When it's Jeopardy. First Wheel of Fortune, second is perfect because if you don't have a chance in Jeopardy, you got a real good chance at Wheel of Fortune. Are you a Wheel of Fortune, monsieur? Are you?
Dan Beyer
I like it better, but I still suck at it. I'm still making up things that aren't on.
Aaron Torres
I feel it brings more people into the game. I'm not talking Shakespeare here, which is talking letters. And. And. And with the Wheel of Fortune, you can even guess a letter. And when they get it wrong, if you say, like, guess an S and they go N and there's no N, you're like, idiots. Idiots. There's an S up there.
Monty Belanos
Take the S. Come on.
Aaron Torres
Yes. But I feel it's th. They. They work so well off each other. And I know they're not back to back in every single market across the country, but in a lot of them, they are. And in ours in Southern California, in Los Angeles, we have a Jeopardy. Followed by a Wheel of Fortune. And I feel like the first part of Jeopardy. Is okay, if he did have a chance there. Just wait 30 minutes because you're gonna have a chance in Wheel of Fortune.
Monty Belanos
Yeah, I'm the opposite of you guys is. I'm good at random trivia, and I'm good at piecing the clues together of. Oh, Flint Michig. Well, it's down to these four people for some reason. I guess I'm just not a visual learner. I suck at Wheel of Fortune. It's like, I'm not great. Yeah. I can't even analogize it here on air.
Aaron Torres
But my favorite Wheel of Fortune, and I don't know if you're watching with significant others is. Or just other people in the room. When people are, like, blank. Blank. The blank and blank. Yeah, we all know the. And, like, just because you said it out loud first doesn't give you dibs on this puzzle that you, like, gave us the pathway to the answer. Like, we know it's the or, and, like, we understand that. That's one of my favorites. Yeah.
Monty Belanos
The H in the middle kind of gives away that it's the in the three letter word buddy. Oh.
Aaron Torres
There's also the thing about Wheel of Fortune where you feel smarter because you solved it before they did.
Dan Beyer
Sure, there's a chance for that, but.
Aaron Torres
But a lot of times they're just spinning for more money. So they knew the puzzle three letters ago when you didn't. But because they keep on spinning, you're like idiots. It's, you know, it's like, you know, for whom the bell tolls, it's right there.
Monty Belanos
The opposite is true as well, is that you get annoyed when everybody knows what it is and there are still spins to be had to to run up the score and run up your point total, your money total. And you end up being like, no, I'll solve it there. And you're like, just take The F, dude. 400 bucks. It's giraffe.
Aaron Torres
Like, you know, it's giraffe. You can spend four months more money.
Monty Belanos
Yes.
Aaron Torres
You got two of them there. There's so much. There's so much with it. We can talk game shows more to our we want as well. For Aaron Torres, Monte Belanio, Jason Stewart and Ryan Smith, I'm Dan Beyer. This is Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. Happy Wednesday.
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Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Episode with Dan Beyer & Aaron Torres on Robert Kraft & Jeopardy!
Release Date: July 17, 2025
Guests: Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres
Host Network: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
1. The Decline of the New England Patriots Dynasty
In the early segments of the episode, Aaron Torres initiates a deep dive into the ongoing tensions between Robert Kraft, Bill Belichick, and the legacy of the New England Patriots. Torres sets the stage by referencing a heated exchange and the recent public statements made by Robert Kraft regarding Bill Belichick's role in the dynasty's success.
Legacy at Stake: Aaron Torres highlights the enduring rift between Kraft and Belichick, stating, "These two guys care so much about this thing all these years later." ([05:22])
Kraft’s Perspective: Robert Kraft, in an appearance on the "Dudes on Dudes" podcast hosted by Gronk and Julian Edelman, portrayed himself as the primary architect of the Patriots' success. He emphasized the risk he took in hiring Belichick in 1999, a move that was met with skepticism at the time. Kraft remarked, "I think getting Bill Belichick to come to the Patriots in 1999 was a big risk..." ([06:35])
Belichick’s Rebuttal: In response to Kraft's claims, Belichick issued a statement defending his decision to join the Patriots. He asserted, "I took a big risk by taking the New England Patriots head coaching job..." ([12:18])
Torres’ Analysis: Aaron Torres posits that the Patriots' downfall post-Brady and Belichick is a testament to their integral roles in the team's success. He observes, "When Tom Brady, Bill Belichick, and Robert Kraft were together, they were winning Super Bowls... the best dynasty in NFL history." ([07:15])
Monty Belanos’ Take: Monty Belanos adds depth to the discussion by attributing credit to Robert Kraft for maintaining a hands-off ownership style, which arguably allowed the football team to thrive without excessive interference. He states, "He let the football people do the football stuff. He let the players play." ([09:01])
2. The Quest for Legacy and Hall of Fame Recognition
The conversation shifts to the motivations behind Kraft and Belichick's recent public statements. Torres suggests that Kraft is seeking greater recognition for his contributions, potentially aiming for induction into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Kraft’s Ambitions: Torres muses, "He probably wants to go in. As morbid as this sounds, before he dies, he wants that honor." ([08:44])
Belanos on Ownership Credit: Monty Belanos counters the narrative by emphasizing that ownership often remains uncredited in team successes. He mentions, "The guy that never gets talked about is Robert Kraft... he probably deserves a lot of credit because he wasn't a helicopter owner." ([11:17])
3. Game Shows and Jeopardy! Insights
Transitioning from sports, the podcast delves into a segment about game shows, particularly focusing on recent episodes of Jeopardy! and their evolving difficulty levels.
Jeopardy!’s Evolution: Monty Belanos critiques the current state of Jeopardy!, noting that questions have become more convoluted and potentially less challenging for seasoned fans. He comments, "They try to lead you on and give you hints to dumb it down for the contestants." ([35:00])
Audience Engagement: Aaron Torres and Monty discuss how Jeopardy! has shifted to prioritize contestant engagement, possibly at the expense of question complexity. Torres observes, "It's now been so much more about the contestant and the people at home." ([37:33])
Personal Anecdotes: The hosts share personal experiences of struggling with the increasing complexity of Jeopardy! questions, with Dan Beyer admitting, "I feel stupid AF watching that. Cause I don't know a single answer." ([36:21])
4. Interplay Between Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune
The discussion further explores the symbiotic relationship between Jeopardy! and Wheel of Fortune, highlighting how viewers transition between the two shows.
Complementary Formats: Aaron Torres suggests that after watching Jeopardy!, transitioning to Wheel of Fortune offers a different kind of challenge. He states, "If you don't have a chance in Jeopardy, you got a real good chance at Wheel of Fortune." ([49:16])
Audience Inclusivity: Monty Belanos emphasizes that Wheel of Fortune tends to be more accessible, allowing a wider range of audience members to engage and succeed. He remarks, "You can even guess a letter... It's like, just take The F, dude." ([51:17])
5. Conclusion and Final Thoughts
As the episode wraps up, the hosts reaffirm their appreciation for the show's dynamic discussions and tease upcoming topics related to sports and entertainment.
Notable Quotes:
Summary:
In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, Dan Beyer and Aaron Torres engage in a multifaceted discussion that interweaves the legacy of the New England Patriots with the evolving landscape of popular game shows like Jeopardy!. The conversation critically examines the intertwined histories of Robert Kraft and Bill Belichick, questioning the attribution of success and the motivations behind recent public statements. Transitioning smoothly, the hosts then pivot to analyze the complexities and audience engagement strategies of modern game shows, reflecting on personal challenges and broader entertainment trends. Throughout the episode, notable insights and candid reflections provide listeners with a comprehensive understanding of both sports legacy debates and the shifting dynamics of televised trivia competitions.