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So it's rare that I'm in here the day after an NFL game because as usually meet Fridays in the off season, there was a game last night. It was the Broncos and the Raiders. And I gotta tell you, if you guys missed it, congratulations. I am so happy for you. If you did not watch last night's game, I don't know many people. I might not even know any that love football more than me. That was bad. That was a bad game and I can appreciate good defense. I like. I'm fine with low scoring games, but I don't know how much of that was good defense and how much of that was bad offense to put in perspective. I saw this stat somewhere. I forgot to write it down. So I don't know the exact stat. Whatever. You guys can google it. That's what the Internet's for. I think it might have been the first game since 1950 where both teams had more penalties than points. More penalties than points. I don't care how much you Love the sport. That's a tough watch. When there's more penalties than points. The Broncos end up winning 107 over the Raiders. So the Broncos are now 8 and 2. And I'm going to go on record right now and say that was the worst performance by a team getting their record to 8 and 2. And in the history NFL has a team ever looked worse and played worse in pursuit of an 8 and 2 record, which they got. I got to start with Fritzi this morning. We'll get to all your calls. Fritzi, in all sincerity, how did you feel watching that game last night with your beloved Broncos and how do you feel this morning now that you slept on it? I watched every play as they do for all the Broncos. It was extremely frustrating and I'm starting to think like they didn't get a first down till the middle of the second quarter. They're a rookie punter. I don't know. Any of us could have punted, but I don't know what he was doing kicking off the side of his foot. Couldn't pin them inside the 20. Kicks it into the end. It was terrible. And for a team to be. You're right for a team to be 8 and 2. They're the number one seed in the AFC right now. To look like that offensively, fans were booing and rightfully so. They wait till the fourth quarter to score points, which didn't even happen last night. At least you'd think in the fourth quarter they'd wake up and get some points. They're not going to be able to let the defense. I know they got away within 2015 when Peyton was hurt and everything, but you can't wait until the fourth quarter to wake up offensively and the defense is not going to be able to bail them out every week. You're not going to have 33 point fourth quarter games against the Giants. Come back against the super bowl champs in Philadelphia in the fourth quarter. That's just not going to happen. You can't live like that. So I guess the question I got you there, by the way, just in case anyone was wondering, that wasn't pre recorded and then doubled in speed. That was Todd actually doing that live. That was actually live. That wasn't fast forwarded. I want everybody on radio or TV to know this, okay? The guys have the ability. It it. There's called talk back. Okay. So I can press a button. You guys, if you watch Peacock, you've probably seen Dan do it before. He can press a button and talk to the guys. But Also, the guys can say something to me in my left ear. And while Fritzy was going, Paulie said, in my left ear. If you don't stop him, he'll just keep going. He's very right. Completely true. I cannot argue that. I almost lost it. Todd does not like punctuation. All right, so you understand what I was watching last night. But. But, Todd, you're on a nat. You know I'm a huge fan of you, right? Yes, huge. You're on the biggest sports talk radio show in the country. That is true. Pauses, periods. But even I was too animated. I can't. These are. Punctuation is your friend. Punctuation is your friend. Punctuation is your friend. Todd. I had to get that all out. I'm glad you did. But here's my question. By the way, you made some great points. We set a lot of records last night. That was also the greatest punter. Disparity punter. The guy for the Raiders is the. AJ Cole must be the greatest punter twice. He has the ball, hit on the one and then make a right turn and go 10 yards out of bounds. It's the craziest thing. AJ Cole was the best football player that I saw last night. AJ Cole and Max Crosby and Benito. But here's the crux of it, Todd. And I want. I want to know what Paulie would think. And Seaton and Marv. Do you look at it and say, man, that. That was horrible. We're not good. I know we're 8 and 2, but we're not good. Or do you look at it and say, I don't care, we're eight and two. I don't care how it looks. Rate. And two, you guys can kiss my. You know what? For me, it's much more the former than the latter because I know what they have defensively and I keep waiting for the offense to prove they can hold up their end of the bargain and be a deep playoff run team. And their record is very deceiving. On one hand, you know, they could have beat the Colts and charges on those last second fielders. They could have been 9 and 1 or 10, 0. But my son reminds me some of those games that they just pull, that could have gone the other way. They could be a 4 and 16 right now just as easily. So I don't know what we're getting yet offensively with this. All right? So I feel like, you know, you guys know I grew up outside of Philadelphia, okay? So all my buddies and family and friends, they're die Hard Eagles fans. So I'm on the text chain during every Eagles game and it feels like people are like after a game like that, there's really one of two ways you can go. This team stinks. I don't care that they won. They're still not good. That was pathetic. Or I don't give a. You know what? We won. That's all that matters. I feel like my friends, they go one of two ways. Paulie, which way are you? Like, which way would you be? See, I'm more of a middle ground guy. I try to be level headed, but I think a lot of people didn't see the Broncos play this year until last night because they play at 1 o' clock or 4 o' clock and you mix it in with the red zone. But last night, standalone, if you look at them last night, they did not look like a threatening team. And I thought three weeks ago, this is a really interesting team, really good pass rush. But then you look at their schedule this year, they have one quality win. They beat the Eagles by four. Otherwise, their wins are against the Titans, the Jets, the Giants, the Cowboys, the Texans, and the Raiders. So it's like a false 8 and 2. You feel good at the position of your team. I don't believe in that, by the way. Well, it's an NFL team. Yeah. They're playing other NFL teams. I'll say this as a from a former player's perspective, you never have to apologize for a win. And in fact, I would argue it's a really good sign when you win even though you played like crap. If you win an NFL game even though you played like crap, you're probably pretty good. It's hard to win these games. Ask the Saints, ask the Titans, ask the Jets. It's hard to win NFL football games if you're able to win when you look that bad, that's a good sign. Seaton. I think if you look at, say, a team like the Chiefs last year, I don't know exactly how many one score games they won, 15 in a row, but it was a lot of them and they took that all the way to the Super Bowl. So now granted, I know the Chiefs are the Chiefs and the Broncos are the Broncos, and there's history that we have to look at, but there's something to be said. Are you barely winning in a good way or are you barely winning in a bad way? You know, are you, are you barely getting wins to, you know, advance? And like I see we do just enough to keep winning or you could Be on the flip side, obviously, that and keep losing. But I think that there's a lane for teams who keep winning close games to advance and that if at 8 and 2, maybe the Broncos could be that this year. So what's crazy about that is that the Chiefs had the NFL's longest streak ever of winning 15 straight one score games. Guess what? They are in one score games this year. Oh, and four. Those things have a way of kind of evening themselves out. Although listen to Fritz's point. The Broncos play the Chiefs next Sunday. I would be stunned if the Chiefs aren't favored in that game. I'd be stunned. Go ahead, Paulie. Well, that's what I was going to ask you. Records and belief in a team are two different things. If I had to say pick the team that's going to go the furthest this year in the AFC West. Broncos, Chargers, Chiefs. It's close, right? Right now because the Chiefs are. Who's not saying Chiefs really? Well, I have my like, I don't know, May or June prediction. I don't remember exactly what it was was the Chiefs aren't making the playoffs this year, so I have to stick with that. Scalding hot at the time. Okay, well, I'll just tell you right now. I would absolutely take the Chiefs out of those three teams to go the furthest in the playoffs. Absolutely. However, the Broncos have a real chance here to win the division and to greatly increase the degree of difficulty for the Chiefs to get back to the Super Bowl. Yes, they can win three road playoff games, but if the Broncos can win that division, they're actually doing the Bills and the Ravens and a bunch of these teams a huge favor. I think the first question is more or less this. Is there any such thing as a bad win? Do you go ahead, Marv. Not in the NFL. I think in college there could be, but in the NFL, a win is a win you're playing against. Like you said earlier, you're playing against other NFL players. You'll take the win any way you can get it. Good. I'm agreeing with Marvin. I'm a Bears fan. And the Bears beat the Bengals by a hair last week. 47, 42. Their defense was awful. They made Joe Flacco look like he was in his 20s. They got beat all game. Their special teams were awful. That was an awful performance by the Bears. The offense was good, but they stole a win. And you're like, it's, it's like the deodorant of a bad performance. There is a lot to get to today by the way, because we have an unbelievable guest list thanks to Fritzi who we still need to find out why he's wearing a blonde wig. I got this civilian goat. NFL Films legend Greg Cosell will join us in about 10 minutes. Andy Staples in our number two, the college football expert for on three sports. There's a lot to get to with him. He the first college football playoff poll came out. We keep having coaches fired but nobody's actually been hired and we got a bunch of good games this weekend. By the way, the Indiana Hoosiers are double digit favor favorites at Penn State. That is a real thing. You just said that on national. I think I like I think I stuttered like the Indiana Hoosiers in football are double digit favorites in Happy Valley against the Penn State Nittany Lions. And then we'll have Dane Brugler from the Athletic. This is important. He'll join us at 11:20am Eastern Time. He's probably the best draft guy scout out there. What happened to all the top quarterbacks for this draft? And if you're all these teams out there like the Browns or the jets or whoever and you're stockpiling first round picks, who are you drafting? Dante Moore from Oregon, this Fernando Mendoza guy from Indiana. So there's a lot to get to. We've got great guests including one other thing we need to get to that happened yesterday, I guess did the Marshawn Neal in news, the Cowboys defensive end who passed away, did that happen like sort of after your show? Just after we wrapped up yesterday? Yes, got it. Okay. Well for those of you that for the most part listen and get your news and sports information from this show. Just an incredibly, incredibly sad tragedy that we found out about yesterday late morning. Marshawn Neyland, he's a second year, second round pick defensive end out of Western Michigan for the Dallas Cowboys. He was found deceased yesterday. They are ruling it a suicide and man, it hits home on a lot of levels. Man, this guy just had a touchdown on Monday night on a blocked punt. You know, I was once a second year Cowboy. I actually called multiple of his games at Western Michigan. And I guess I don't know what to say other than you never really know what's going on in someone else's life. You never really know what someone else is going through because from the outside I think most people would think this guy is at the top of the world. He's 24, he plays for the Cowboys. He scored a touchdown on Monday Night Football. I mean from the outsider's perspective, you would think this guy is on top of the world. Obviously, that was not the case. And the only thing I would say about that is I think we lose sight sometimes because they're professional athletes and we see them on our television, that they're still human beings and they still have personal issues, they still have family issues. Think about Josh Simmons, the left tackle for the Chiefs. He just missed the last four games because of family issues. Again, I don't know what those are. None of us know what Marshawn Neyland was going through, but it is incredibly, incredibly sad to think that he is no longer with us. I don't know if any of you guys, I don't know what else there is to say on a topic like this other than mental health is a really, really important thing. And it's absolutely critical that we all check on our family and friends and don't just say, how you doing? If you say, how you doing? And they don't say great, maybe try to dig a little deeper. I don't know. Paulie. Well, I think it's important to have you here today because like you said, you were a player. And I heard Dana Orlofsky say yesterday, when he was young in the league, if he had issues, he wouldn't be comfortable sharing it because maybe it's a. Even though he's not that old, maybe it was a generation ago, but in the locker room, how often can that be talked about? It can that be. Is there a person you could talk to on a team? You played the sport, we didn't. You know what's so fascinating about that? I think it's changed. I know that a lot of teams have sports psychologists now, so I think it's changed. But the truth is, when I was a player, I would not have told the team that something was going on with me or my family because I wouldn't want them to hold that against me. And I don't know, you know, Marshawn Neyland was starting and he's a second round pick, so. But the point is, is I would not have told the team. And I can think of two different instances where I was not in a good place mentally during my career. My second year was something that happened on the field, which we can get to a little bit later in the show. My fourth year was actually a family situation. And in both instances, I was not in as good of a place as I would have liked to have been. Especially, you know, having to go out there and perform thoughts and prayers for sure with Marshawn Nealon's family, friends, loved ones just obviously gone way, way too soon. Greg Cosell will join us when we return. 19 minutes past the hour here on the Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Rob Parker and Kelvin Washington from the Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio. 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I had double header last weekend. Saturday I did army at Air Force. Sunday I did Chargers, Titans, but there's several buys so I don't have a TV game. I will be in the booth with Kevin Harlan Monday night for the packers and the Eagles on Westwood One. We'll talk about that a little bit later because Lambeau is by far my favorite NFL stadium. We gotta get into a little bit of a bucket list conversation. Hit me up on social. Hit us up, I should say at DP show at Ross Tucker. NFL would love to know which stadium, which venues are on your bucket list. We're going to get to my guy, Greg Cosell, who's an absolute legend from NFL Films momentarily. But Seaton, what are we thinking right now for the poll question? Well, there's only one poll question when you're in. What's that? What do you got? Dijon honey, spicy or yellow? Oh, that is a good one. Wow. Dijon honey, spicy or yellow? Just got dizzy. That is great because I need to talk about my incident. I'm positive that's why Greg Cosell is on today, by the way, is to break down this polka and then do football. You know what, Greg seems to me like a Dijon guy. Like, pardon me, Mr. Cosell, but do you have any gray Poupon? Greg is what I'm looking for. Mako wants to send you to super weak, give your car a paint job and more. Visit dan patrick.com to enter daily for a chance to win and get official rules. No purchase necessary or void in Alaska. Sorry, Alaska, Hawaii and where prohibited. Open to contiguous. That's a cool word. US DC residents 18 and over ends 1123, 25. He joins me every Thursday and Friday on the Ross Tucker Football podcast. And yet that's still not enough. This guy has been working at NFL Films for 46 years. He loves football and I love him. Check him out on social media at Greg Cosell. Greg, great to see you always here in a different venue. I think a lot of people are familiar with your outstanding work. The NFL matchup show on ESPN, ESPN2 the next couple days. I guess we got to get your thoughts on the poll question first, Greg, I know that this is why you break down the tape. Spicy, mustard, yellow Mustard, honey mustard or Dijon mustard? I think I'm a golden spicy brown kind of guy, Ross. Yes. I knew it. I knew it. Yes. I'm not a great Poupon guy. I can't remember the last time I ever had great Poupon. But, you know, that's way above my investment portfolio. You know, I love the fact, just so everybody knows, I talked to this guy at least once a week now twice a week. I've never talked with Greg about mustard before. And not only did he say spicy, he shouted out my favorite spicy brown mustard, Golden's. He gave it the actual name brand. Gosh, this show is going so well so far. All right, we'll get to more of the mustard talk a little bit later, I guess. Here's my first question, Greg, after watching that game last night. Oh, you did, huh? Yes. I feel badly for you. Well, I went to, I went to bed early, Ross, because I was at the gym at 10 or 5 this morning, so I didn't see much of that game. Well, I know you'll break down the film later, so that's why I'm not going to specifically ask you about last night. But when you look at, for example, the Broncos and the Patriots, they both only have two losses. Where are you right now with Bo Nixon, Drake May? In other words, have you seen enough from either one of those guys to think, you know, what, they might be able to do it in a playoff game against Josh Allen and the Bills or Lamar Jackson, Ravens? What, what have you seen from those two guys, you know, in particular, Nixon, May? Well, I, if we want to start with May, I think May has played consistently far better than Knicks has. May has just better traits overall, too. I mean, I've had the ability to stand next to both guys. May is just a big, big man, and he plays the game effortlessly, easily. You know, one of the things that I was taught years ago, and actually I think it was a conversation I had with Phil Sims years ago. When you watch a quarterback and they throw it so easily, May looks effortless throwing the ball effortless down the field, and it's just easy for him to throw it. And one thing I think has really stood out this year, and you're never sure about this till you get to the NFL, Ross, is his ability to move within the pocket. You don't see a lot of that in college because it's not usually that necessary in college football to play like that. But in the NFL, pockets get squeezed. There's more bodies around you, how a quarterback reacts to that is something that I really evaluate carefully and I think that pocket movement is a really important trade and May has really shown that Traitor. Knicks, on the other hand, I think has been very, very inconsistent. I think that his ball location has at times been good and has at times left something to be desired. You're almost, and you hate to say this about a quarterback, and I like Bo Nix overall, but he's almost at the point now where sometimes you're just not certain what you're going to get with Bo Nix. And obviously he's had these big fourth quarter comebacks, but you don't want to live like that. You want more consistency from one to play 70 and that hasn't been the case with him for much of this season. I'm curious about that. When you're breaking down the tape and you see these guys play their best in the fourth quarter or in the last couple minutes, what do you, what do you make out of that? Well, you have to look at the reason why. What kind of plays are they making? You know, if Bo Nix has made a number of plays in the fourth quarter where it's been one on one on fade balls and he's made a very good throw and then Cordelet Sutton has gone up against good coverage and made a catch, obviously that play counts and it's a good job by both guys. He did make a great play. I remember specifically against the Eagles where he made a great read and a great throw to. I believe it was Sutton on a third and 15 maybe, if memory serves me correctly. And that was a really big time throw with great timing and anticipation and ball location. But I think you always have to look at the plays themselves and that to me is just like interceptions. You always have to look at interceptions as individual plays, not as a number on a stat sheet. You've got to look at the plays. So, you know, I think that Knicks has made, obviously they've come back in games and he certainly made throws and he uses his legs extremely well. We saw that. Who do they? It was the Giants, right, the Giants, where they had that crazy comeback and scored 33 in the fourth quarter. And you know, you have to look at all those plays as individual plays, not just say, wow, they came back. So, you know, that's the way I go about it anyway. You know, it's funny by the way, you think about some of the rookie quarterbacks that are playing right now, Jackson Dart and. Yeah, and Cam Ward and obviously now Tyler Shuck and maybe they're not in great Situations. You know, Greg, I called a couple Patriots games last year and they might have had the worst O line and the worst receiving core. And I still thought Drake may look good, you know, so you can still look good as a quarterback. You know, the other. The other teams I wanted to ask you about. Well, just one quick point, if I could. Yeah. When you evaluate. I learned this from people smarter than I am at fat quarterback play. Going back to Bill Walsh. When you evaluate a quarterback, Ross, you have to evaluate him separately from the circumstances. You have to isolate on the traits of the quarterback. We know that certain teams don't have great receivers or certain teams may not have a great run game. That's all fine. That has nothing to do with how a quarterback plays. The position of quarterback. You have to isolate the quarterback and separate him from the rest of the team. That's how you evaluate a quarterback. You understand that, hey, maybe he's not throwing to great guys, but that doesn't dictate how he goes about playing the position of quarterback. All right, well, let's evaluate a couple of other quarterbacks because again, looking at the top of the standings, I see the 7 and 2 Indianapolis Colts and I see the 6 and 2 Seattle Seahawks. And Greg, no matter who I talk to, they are not going to believe in Daniel Jones or Sam Darnold until they actually see those guys win a playoff game. What are you seeing? Are you seeing enough that the rest of us should buy in and should believe that these teams are real? And I don't think of it like that, Ross. Like, you know, when people say, are these teams for real? All I know is what we have up to this point and how these teams play. So if you look at the Colts, and by the way, Daniel Jones made some really good throws this past week even though they lost to the Steelers. And he had to drop back 55 times, which, as you know, no coach wants a quarterback to drop back 55 times in a game. He had 26 drop backs alone in the fourth quarter. And as I said, he made some big time throws. Now, there's a team that is very much based on the fact that they dominate on first down. And first down domination is the result of being in control of games close enough that you can do what you want to do on first down. Jones had the most first down passing yardage in the league. Jonathan Taylor is among the league leaders in first down rushing yardage. They dominate on first down. And when you can't do that, the game changes. And then when you have to drop Back on every single play as they did every play in the fourth quarter last week was a pass, 26 plays. And as you probably saw, their two tackles in that game did not play well in one on one pass protection when they were asked to block one on one against Watten Highsmith. So they had a very difficult game. But I think the nature of the Colts offense is such that if they can stay within the game that they're very, very good. Donald, he's another guy. He's really good in specific ways. Every quarterback, for the most part Ross has defined strengths and then certain limitations. That's just true with every quarterback, even great ones. Okay, so Darnold is really good as a play action quarterback. The reads are more defined. He pushes it down the field as well as any quarterback in the league. Now they have Shahid, that's only going to help in that regard. Darnold is better in that kind of offense than he is, let's say in the shotgun offense, sitting back there, being asked to scan the field. So if all of a sudden they get down big and he's asked to do that, he may not look as good because that's not what he does as, as play in a, in an under center play action game where they can control the pace and tempo of the game more. So Greg, our producer here is Paulie Pabst and he's a die hard, die hard Bears fan. So you talked about Bo Nicks, you talked about Drake May. I think he'd be upset if I didn't get your evaluation of Caleb Williams, the number one pick in last year's draft. Where are you and what are you seeing on the tape with Caleb Williams so far this year in Ben Johnson's offense? Yeah, I think it's been a work in progress and I, I totally expected that. It's a very difficult offense. Just starting with the operational perspective, Ross, and you know what I mean by that, where you know, calling the play in the huddle where there might be two plays called, then there's alerts, then you want to have enough time when you get to the line of scrimmage because that offense features shifts and motions, then you want to have Williams be able to sort of research the defense. So the part was something he really struggled with as a rookie under a different coaching staff. But then he had to learn that this year. I would say that last week in the game, last week now. And again, this is not relevant to me that Cincinnati doesn't have a good defense, but I thought you saw a lot more of the Ben Johnson pass game concepts come to fruition. And I thought that there were times Williams looked really good executing those. Now there are still times because it will be a work in progress where he was a beat slow with his reads and did not get the throws that were there. There are times there's a little bit of an unfocused, frenetic nature to him, to his pocket play. That's his next step in his continued development. But I got to tell you, this guy throws the ball. It's, it's crazy the way he throws the ball. And when you talk about throwing the ball on the move, I mean, this guy has an absolute power hose when he throws the ball on the move. I don't know if I've seen anybody throw with that kind of velocity. Even Aaron Rodgers in his prime with that kind of velocity on the move. Check him out on social media at Greg Cosell and check him out every week on the Ross Tucker Football podcast. Thursday or Friday. A lot more hardcore football talk where that came from. Greg, thank you so much for the time here on the Dan Patrick show. Really appreciate it. Appreciate it. Ross, thanks so much for having me. Awesome. To talk with Greg. I am very curious to hear how Paulie feels about what Greg just said because you could, that's another one. You could have taken what Greg said and you could go, hey, I loved what he had to say. Or you could be negative and take it the other way. We got the play of the day. We got Paulie's reaction to the Caleb Williams breakdown. I'm going to check my social media mentions at Ross Tucker NFL because I want to know, I know what the poll question is but I want to know your specific favorite mustard. Is there a brand Greg Cosell just called out golden spicy brown. If you have a a name brand mustard, I'd love to hear about it at Ross Tucker NFL 877-3-DP show. Probably get into one of your calls when we come back. It is 41 minutes past the hour. Here on the Dan Patrick Show, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to listen live on the podcast health stuff. We are tackling all the health questions that keep you up at night. Yes, I'm Dr. Priyanka Walley, a double board certified physician. 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You're like, I still haven't made a decision on a quarterback. When you watch Caleb Williams, when I watch him every week, he masters the spectacular. He hasn't mastered the mundane. He drops back and will roll. I'm going to steal that, by the way. That's really well said. Thank you. He'll make a highlight across his body throw that only five people can make in the league. But on a third and four, he doesn't just throw to the guy in the flat who's wide open. If even if you look at the end of the Bengals game the other day, he had that great throw to Colston Loveland that won the game. Yeah. And it's unbelievable. The two plays before that, he scrambled with his back to the defense twice and was. It looked like a catastrophe the two plays before that. So the two plays before were almost a catastrophe by Williams by his scrambling. And the next play was a beautiful throw. On time, on target. I think he does not play. He's almost too talented and doesn't take the easy stuff. All right, Marv, I'm going to put you on the spot here. Would you rather have a quarterback that masters the mundane but is not capable of doing the spectacular, or would you rather have a quarterback that can do the spectacular but is very much a work in progress with the mundane? Master the mundane for sure. Okay. You win Super Bowls that way. All right, Paulie, I have a name for you. Jared Goff. Jared Goff does not make spectacular throws. He doesn't have great physical skills that can get out of danger, but he seems to take all the smart plays for the Lions and get the ball out quickly. I mean, can you say Tom Brady, Drew Brees, Peyton Manning? Sure. No, those guys do a whole lot of spectacular. Brady Invented it? Yes. Yeah. I mean, I don't know. Seems like. Seems like mastering the mundane. Seems like the. A pretty good way to go. The other thing that I absolutely love about this show is just how incredible your audience is. I don't know how many stations we're on on. We're on a lot because we've got Everybody calling in at 8 7, 7, 3, DP show. And I promise I'm trying to be better about getting to some of those. But also on social media, people hitting us up at DP show at Ross Tucker NFL Low and symph. Extra hot German mustard. Sweet and spicy mustard Stadium mustard beer and brat horseradish mustard. Fantastic. People have, like, very strong opinions about this specific type of mustard. Do you have one? My Go to mustard company Wobers. You'll like it. They got everything spicy. W W O E B E R. Old school. You know, I gotta admit something. Probably shouldn't do this on the radio. I have no idea what's even in mustard. What even is mustard? It's ground up Mustard seeds and other things. What are the other things? Oh, boy. You don't know either. You don't know either? No, but it's lots of other fills to give it. Well, you gotta. You gotta have water, you gotta have paste and Fritzi, do you know? Probably some kind of paprika and oils, but I know. Wait a minute. Pronounce the word P A P R I K a paprika. It's paprika, right? I thought it's paprika. I could be totally wrong. Is it paprika or paprika? See, it might be regional depending on where you. I would say paprika. Yeah, Paprika. Mark spelled PA but pronounced P U. Or would I say paprika? No, I don't know. Now, no one has ever said paprika. Really, Marv? Paprika. Paprika. Paprika. Oh, my gosh, it's paprika. It might be paprika. Are you guys pulling one over? Is this a fast one, Paulie? Paprika. Like, if you said. What do you put in there? Paprika? Yes, like paprika. Listen, I guarantee that there are chefs listening to the show right now. There are people that specialize in selling seasonings. In fact, they are in their car going to the next restaurant chain to try to sell them more of their seasonings. They do not walk into that restaurant and say, I've got some new delicious paprika for you. Nobody is selling anything called paprika. I got some Great. Paprika Ritz. He doesn't cook and has never used it. By the way, mustard is ground mustard seeds, vinegar, water, wine or in various spices. Yeah. I gotta be honest with you. I don't even know what a mustard seed is. Where do you get a mustard seed? How can you love mustard that much? But who grows mustards? Who grows mustard seeds? Great people. Yeah, that's a good point. Wisconsin, right? That's where they got the Mustard hall of Fame. I believe checking might be in Iowa. No. Or month. I think it's Wisconsin. I think I've driven by it. I will be there Monday night. It's a little bit of a tease to what we're going to talk about when we return. We also get into some college football with Andy Staples. We're rolling here. Our number two is next. You can't make the most of your data if it's stuck in different silos. If it's scattered across the cloud on prem and with your apps, then it's hard to access, hard to work with, and increasingly expensive. 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