Hour 1 – NBA All-Star Weekend Fell Flat

Summary

Summary of "The Dan Patrick Show" Episode: Hour 1 – NBA All-Star Weekend Fell Flat

Release Date: February 17, 2025

In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, hosts Steve Covino and Rich Davis delve into a critical analysis of the recent NBA All-Star Weekend, exploring why it failed to captivate audiences as expected. The discussion weaves through themes of sports as a social connector, the challenges of promoting new NBA stars, and the broader implications for the league's future engagement strategies.

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I. Introduction

The episode opens with Steve Covino and Rich Davis engaging in their typical light-hearted banter, reflecting on the lackluster nature of the NBA All-Star Weekend. They set the stage for a deep dive into the event's shortcomings and its impact on both fans and the league.

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II. Sports as a Social Unifier

Covino and Davis emphasize the role of sports in facilitating social interactions. They argue that sports provide a common ground for conversation, especially in settings where small talk is otherwise challenging.

• Steve Covino [04:42]: "Sports is the great unifier. It brings people together and makes the conversation easy."

They share personal anecdotes about using sports as an icebreaker in various social scenarios, highlighting its effectiveness in building rapport.

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III. NBA All-Star Weekend Analysis

The hosts critically assess the NBA All-Star Weekend, noting its inability to engage fans compared to other cultural events happening simultaneously.

• Rich Davis [03:40]: "I see why stars like Colin and Dan and this is the time of the year they take off."

They discuss how pop culture phenomena like "Cobra Kai" and "Saturday Night Live" overshadowed the NBA events, leading to diminished viewer interest.

• Rich Davis [18:39]: "The world of sports stunk this weekend."

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IV. Public Preferences and Star Power

A significant portion of the discussion centers on the NBA’s struggle to promote newer stars compared to established legends like LeBron James and Steph Curry. Covino and Davis explore how the league's attempts to innovate with new formats may not resonate with the wider audience.

• Steve Covino [25:30]: "If you ask the average NBA fan what matchup you'd want, most people would say Warriors and Lakers because they're still hung up on Steph and LeBron."

They draw parallels to the music industry, where unexpected songs sometimes become massive hits despite initial resistance from industry gatekeepers.

• Rich Davis [20:20]: "You don't determine what people want. They tell you what they want."

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V. Transition and Future of NBA All-Star Weekend

The hosts discuss the transitional phase the NBA All-Star Weekend is undergoing, questioning whether the league can reclaim its appeal by fostering new, charismatic stars or by introducing groundbreaking event formats.

• Rich Davis [39:01]: "Maybe we just need to see someone do something no one's done before."

They ponder whether the NBA needs a revolutionary figure akin to Michael Jordan or Magic Johnson to reignite widespread enthusiasm.

• Rich Davis [52:29]: "Are we waiting for someone to just do something drastically different that we haven't seen?"

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VI. Conclusion

Steve Covino and Rich Davis conclude that the NBA All-Star Weekend's flat performance is indicative of broader challenges within the league to innovate and engage a modern audience. They remain optimistic, suggesting that with the right strategies and emerging talents, the NBA can rejuvenate its marquee events.

• Steve Covino [50:08]: "It's a transitional stage, and we'll see where it goes."

Their analysis underscores the necessity for the NBA to adapt to changing viewer preferences and to effectively market its evolving star landscape.

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps

• Steve Covino [04:42]: "Sports is the great unifier. It brings people together and makes the conversation easy."

• Rich Davis [03:40]: "I see why stars like Colin and Dan and this is the time of the year they take off."

• Rich Davis [18:39]: "The world of sports stunk this weekend."

• Rich Davis [20:20]: "You don't determine what people want. They tell you what they want."

• Rich Davis [39:01]: "Maybe we just need to see someone do something no one's done before."

• Steve Covino [50:08]: "It's a transitional stage, and we'll see where it goes."

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This episode provides a thoughtful critique of the NBA All-Star Weekend, blending personal experiences with broader industry insights. Covino and Davis convincingly argue that while the event fell flat this year, it presents an opportunity for the NBA to innovate and better connect with its audience.

Transcript

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[Steve Covino]

Good morning. Surprise, surprise, surprise, surprise. Covino and Rich in for the great Dan Patrick and I have to say thanks again to Dan for always having us and for leaving the glockenspiel. Rich is really nasty as you play along to the air Glockenspiel. Thank you guys, wherever you are for hanging out with us. Now we're Normally on from 2 to 4 on the west, 5 to 7 on the east, Monday through Friday. But when they say, hey, you want to film for Dan? Of course it's the Dan Patrick hat trick, day one. So we're here for the next three days and we'll be in for Colin on Friday. Thursday is a whole other thing we're doing with Dallas Goddard of the Eagles. Again, I'm Steve Covino. That is Rich Davis. The number 87799 on Fox. We like to get you involved, stay included. Play along at home. See our stupid faces at Covino and Rich. Hope you had a nice weekend. Cobra Kai sort of weekend. Not an NBA all star sort of weekend.

[Rich Davis]

Listen, there's so much random NBA to get to today. But then again, is there anything really to get to? I see why stars like Colin and Dan and this is the time of the year they take off.

[Steve Covino]

You know what I was thinking? Am I right in?

[Rich Davis]

Because there is, there is like so little going on. This is where like the fun. This is where you have to break out the fun.

[Steve Covino]

Dan Patrick's been doing it for so long. Yeah. That he has it down to a science as to when he should take off. We should just like remember, write it down. Copy those dates for our future so we know like exactly what dates to put in ahead of time because again it's the slowest time of the year. So we're going to do some radio today and just have some fun.

[Rich Davis]

That's why we, that's where we have an advantage because we hardly talk about hard hitting sports anyway.

[Steve Covino]

Well let me tell you first off how sports is the great unifier. The great unifier. I'm not big on small talk. It trains me in. It gives me the nervous farts. It makes me feel weird. I don't like small talk. Chit chat. Right?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And over the weekend I had to meet my daughter. My daughter. I have a 15 year old teenage daughter. 15 year old pain in the ass. Right. And she has a new little boyfriend.

[Rich Davis]

This is a nightmare for you.

[Steve Covino]

And I had to take her to meet his family for the first time because it was Valentine's weekend. Puppy. Hope you guys had a happy Valentine's Day weekend full of romance and love. But because their new teenage love and because I was dropping her off at his house, I had to meet the parents as well. Right. So I'm like, don't show up empty handed. Bring a bottle of wine. She, she brought a little plant for the family.

[Rich Davis]

Wait, like, you hung out there?

[Steve Covino]

I know. I went there to introduce myself. Like, hey, she has a dad who cares about her and loves her. I'm the dad. Hi, how are you? Just a hello, how do you do? Because you know, you're leaving your kid at a stranger's house. I don't know these people, but I also wanted to let them know that, hey, I'm her dad. Don't be mean. Muggin. My daughter, she's a nice kid, right? Nice to meet you guys. And they were pleasant. But you know what the conversation immediately goes to, though, it's not really the small talk. It's so my son tells me you're into sports, that you're some sort of broadcaster. And I automatically, oh, yeah, yeah, love sports. And it's the great, perfect.

[Rich Davis]

Talking about yourself.

[Steve Covino]

It really is. And it's like, yeah, who doesn't love talking about themselves? But sports, again, bringing people together, making the conversation easy.

[Rich Davis]

Did you grab the dad's phone and download our podcast?

[Steve Covino]

I did. I said, hey, come here. Search Covino and Rich. Where do you stream your podcasts? That's me, that's us. Covino and Rich. The best to ever do it, you just don't know it yet. So you know, you're talking all the sports stuff. So who do you root for? Well, from the east coast, live out here in la. But yeah, grew up hardcore Yankees fan, big fight fan, there's some ufc, there's some boxing this weekend. You know, I love fight and I love football and yeah, NBA. I like it too. NBA, yeah. The All Star game. Yup, yup, exactly. So you're having all this really easy, breezy barbershop talk. And to me it's the best conversation. If you don't know what to talk about, if you don't know, you know, what to say, or for example, a colleague, you don't know much about them. You're on a work trip, you're trying to get on the boss's good side, you're meeting parents for the first time. Sports, man, it brings people together and it really shows you if they could hang or not. It shows you where they are.

[Rich Davis]

I had a parent recently tell me the following and it put a halt to the conversation. I felt that lull you speak of. You're at a school assembly, Chit chatting with other parents at the school.

[Steve Covino]

So I hear you're into sports.

[Rich Davis]

This dad at the school said to me, oh, I apologize. I'm not really into sports. I don't have time. What do we got time again?

[Steve Covino]

Now, it shows you where they are. I mean, you find other things, but it does tell you something immediately about that guy.

[Rich Davis]

Do you like music? What are you watching on tv? What are we doing here?

[Steve Covino]

You know, it's odd, too, though. You catch a guy who's, like, way involved, and he wants to brag about his stat knowledge and his take, his, like, random guy, hot take, and he.

[Rich Davis]

Knows way more than you.

[Steve Covino]

And he knows more than you. Or he's, like, flexing in a way where he wants to show you that he does. But I'm just. I'm not in that mindset. So I'm like, yeah, I don't really want to play this game right now. I did it all day. You know what I mean?

[Rich Davis]

I have buddies on my, like, softball team that'll be like, hey, who should I start this week with? My fantasy. And they start listening people. I'm like, I just. I work for Fox Sports, but I really. I don't. I don't. We're not going to do a fantasy sports breakdown right now.

[Steve Covino]

Exactly. Exactly. So I had this conversation, and it was great. It was nice. But I did feel like I had to justify a little bit. And we've explained this in the past. When you're talking to new people and you do what we do, I've said it for years. Podcasts are like opinions. Everybody has one, and most of them stink. When I'm telling these people that I do a sports show, I'm like, yeah, but I, you know, I'm not doing, like, you know, like, a little boy podcast or something, you know, I'm doing this for a long time, in fact, filling in for the great Dan Patrick on Monday. You heard of that guy, right? Oh, oh, oh, oh. So I had that going on over the weekend. So while the NBA All Star was going on, it was a weekend of love and romance and new love and meeting people and all that sort of stuff.

[Rich Davis]

You felt the need to make sure the other parents didn't think you were just some podcaster.

[Steve Covino]

Well, I don't know if this is how I feel or if this is universal. Unless you look like Old man Winter, which I do not. Thanks to Just for vatos. Dark brown, black. Just to my. Just thanks to my hair dye. Yeah. When I meet other parents, they feel very parenty. To me, they feel a lot older than I am. So I feel like they're looking at me thinking that I do little boy things and I'm like, I don't do like a podcast like your son's friends do because they think I'm a podcaster. I'm like, I'm a broadcaster, but I have a podcast. Right. There's a difference. There's levels to it. I'm not doing it for fun. It's my career. We've been doing this for a long time. So it's not that I need to. I said justify. But you need to explain that. I think.

[Rich Davis]

I don't think you do. Do they really?

[Steve Covino]

When everyone in your neighborhood has a.

[Rich Davis]

Podcast, how do they think you make a living?

[Steve Covino]

I don't know. I don't know them.

[Rich Davis]

That's the point.

[Steve Covino]

That's why I'm introducing myself.

[Rich Davis]

But if you're like, hey, I don't know what they think, you know, you know, the girl your son's dating, I'm the dad. I live in Southern California. Do they think you're a hobo living under the 101?

[Steve Covino]

I don't know what they could think. I'm a deadbeat. For all I know, I have no idea what they think about me.

[Rich Davis]

Does a rinky dink podcast?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Because when they say podcast, their son probably has a podcast. Everybody has a podcast. So anyway, it was a weekend of meeting new people. The point here isn't about my career. It's about that sports brings people together, people you never met. And you see it at the game, you feel it at the game. You're high fiving strangers. And that's the beauty of it all. It gives you stuff to do, it gives you stuff to talk about. And it really puts things in perspective. Even if they don't watch sports, it tells you a lot about that person. So I had that chit chat about sports, who I root for, what it means to me, and it always helps. It always works. That was my weekend. Then I realized something else, Rich. Two things. And I'll take your feedback and your.

[Rich Davis]

Phone calls that you were once a teenage boy and now you hate this kid when you think about him.

[Steve Covino]

I think I worry more about my daughter than this kid. He seems like a really nice kid. Like, he seems like the perfect kid. Then again, they all do, right? But if you were to hand select the kid for your daughter to be with, this would be. The kid seems like a nice fella.

[Rich Davis]

I'll break out an old. An old phrase. Little Eddie Haskell.

[Steve Covino]

No.

[Rich Davis]

Is there, by the way, is there.

[Steve Covino]

Every still of kid, right?

[Rich Davis]

Is there a boy Eddie Haskell? Is it Barney Stinson? That's even a 20 year old reference. Is there a. Is there a kid pop culture reference that parents like that's sort of a little weasel? Or is Eddie Haskell still the reference?

[Steve Covino]

Eddie Haskell is such an old guy reference.

[Rich Davis]

Danny G. Is that still the reference?

[Steve Covino]

In fact, it's like a grandpa reference.

[Rich Davis]

But it's like, that's Leave it to Beaver.

[Steve Covino]

That's like a. Eddie Haskell was the quintessential, like, hello, Mrs. Cleaver. And then he's trying to get into hood rat stuff as soon as the parents leave.

[Rich Davis]

I know.

[Steve Covino]

So Eddie Haskell's the, the wisenheimer type of guy who was nice in front of the adults, but like you said, was a weasel in real life.

[Rich Davis]

Stifler. Barney Stinson. I don't know.

[Steve Covino]

I really don't know if there's a new Haskell. I would say it's Rich Davis, the Velvet Wolf.

[Rich Davis]

Here's my.

[Steve Covino]

Here's my reference. Rich Davis pretends like he's a great guy. Just kidding.

[Rich Davis]

I don't know. I don't know if there is an updated reference. Hey, if you got one. 87799 on Fox, CNR.

[Steve Covino]

So the sports talk went over well. They brought it up. They brought it up. So I leaned into it. Perfect. You want to talk about me, I'll talk about the Yankees.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go.

[Steve Covino]

And then we talked about the dunk contest, which we'll get to later on. But one more observation, because it was the NBA All Star weekend, but it also was Valentine's Day weekend. I real. Or should I say the Sakai Takai weekend, Cobra Kai weekend for this guy. I noticed my biggest struggle over the weekend wasn't dealing with my teenage daughter hanging out with a boy. That's life. And I'm okay with it. I really am. People. We as people. Not just people. Me too. Magnify these things. Like, they're going to be dreadful. They're not that bad. It's life. And you embrace it. And you realize it's special for them, the same way it was for you. And don't. And you want.

[Rich Davis]

Don't be that dad. That's like, well, you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to scare him into a shine my shotgun or something. Like, that's what I mean.

[Steve Covino]

You want them to have a nice teenage love experience. You know, like, hey, did he get my daughter a nice card. Did he write in it? Was he nice to her? It's Valentine's Day. Did he buy her something?

[Rich Davis]

You want to scare a teenage boy? Are you proud of yourself?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. No, that's not who I am. I'm not trying to be that. But I also am trying to be present and assertive in my way. Like, hey, I'm here. I'm her dad. Don't be a weenie. I noticed my biggest battle over the weekend was trying to stay awake during all the NBA festivities.

[Rich Davis]

It's an obstacle.

[Steve Covino]

And my biggest battle was trying to avoid girl scout cookies and leftover Valentine's Day candy. Because I realized this. We as men, we buy our wife and girlfriend and daughters candy and chocolates. And I realized that the half nibbled ones and the ones with the peanuts are left for us always. Those are ours, guys. Enjoy them. That was my mission to avoid them, and I failed. The end. That was my weekend. How was yours?

[Rich Davis]

Thin mints by the sleeve.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, it's. It's not jawline season. It's girl scout cookie season. It's not NBA season. It's girl scout cookie season. And they were calling my name. I had about 16 Samoas in one sitting.

[Rich Davis]

Well, the problem is, once you open that package of Samoas, you have to eat them by the row.

[Steve Covino]

I know. I can't just leave lonely Samoas. I'm like, I can't just leave these lonely ones here. I gotta finish them all.

[Rich Davis]

Is that a reality show? You watching lonely Samoans?

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. Like, you know, you feel bad for the other ones? Like, yeah, nah, come on.

[Rich Davis]

I'm.

[Steve Covino]

Eat them all now.

[Rich Davis]

Thin mints in the freezer.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

Once you open that sleeve, you're like, how many are 10? You tell. You tell your wife, you want five, I'll have five or whatever.

[Steve Covino]

And I was so fired up for Mac McLung, I was like, you know, I lost all control. So I ended up eating the whole box.

[Rich Davis]

So I wanted to start today's show. You're like, start. We're 15 minutes in. I want to start today's show talking about the NBA because I have an analogy. I mean, this is no Colin Cowherd stars analogy. This is no Dan Patrick analogy. But I feel like the NBA. I thought about this for a while because I much like you. You're talking about your weekend of meeting your daughter's boyfriend's family and just, you.

[Steve Covino]

Know, the point was I had a title for it. Sports is the great unifier. Thank you.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah. I had my son's birthday party this weekend when other parents are hanging around your house. I'll back you up. The short of it is when other parents were hanging around your house and you're like, hey. After. They're like, we like what you've done with the place. After the initial small tug of like, oh, love your home. But hey, the drinks.

[Steve Covino]

Love the countertops. What is that, Ubatuba? Is this granite? What is this? So the minute countertops, fantastic.

[Rich Davis]

The minute that talk is done, Covino's dead on. And you can end it with that. You want to talk to a dad or a mom or someone that's just hanging around your house at a kid's birthday party.

[Steve Covino]

It doesn't feel as. As painfully forced. Painfully forces other small talk. Like you sort of lean into it. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, let's do this. I like. I like this better. Yeah, I mean, you ready for baseball season? Did you play as a kid or any sort of sports talk? Yeah, it's way better than how's the weather doing?

[Rich Davis]

I got one. Besides the sports talk and the music talk, there was one dad that didn't say a peep, and he looked in my yard and he saw that we had recently bought a new grill. And clearly that was his thing. And I was like, oh, okay. Because there's always something like, you just gotta find their passion.

[Steve Covino]

And that's why I'm saying nine times out of 10, it's sports. It's sports. If you want to talk about the big green egg or the new pizza oven you bought, what are they called? The Umies or the.

[Rich Davis]

Or the Traegers or whatever it is. That's another thing that's easy to talk about.

[Steve Covino]

You're on the DP show.

[Rich Davis]

It's the Traeger.

[Steve Covino]

Exactly.

[Rich Davis]

To me, it's whatever. Whoever wants to give me some stuff.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

I just spent $2,500 on a green egg, so to me, it's green egg right now.

[Steve Covino]

Where's my Traeger? I'll talk about Traeger all day.

[Rich Davis]

So while I'm making small tug with parents, you're doing your thing. That little intro was all to just let you know that the world of sports stunk this weekend.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich Davis]

And I have a thought. And it's. It goes a little something like this.

[Steve Covino]

You watched a Sakai Takai, which I did, and I thought it was great.

[Rich Davis]

I'm only.

[Steve Covino]

Speak for yourself.

[Rich Davis]

I've only have to episode two of the new Cobra Kai season.

[Steve Covino]

And if you don't know what the Sakai Takai is. Then you don't follow international karate. You didn't like the dunk contest, Rich?

[Rich Davis]

That didn't stink.

[Steve Covino]

That was cool.

[Rich Davis]

I watched it in highlight form, Danny.

[Steve Covino]

Or like background TV form. Like, I had it on. That was. That was good enough.

[Rich Davis]

Here's my thought. The NBA stars. The NBA is sort of like social media. Let me explain. You could post a video that you think is the funniest content. Oh, this is an A list interview. This is the funniest clip of, you know, some nonsense we did in the studio. And it could get, like, tens of thousands of views. You're like, I thought that was gonna hit. Then you can post a video of you, like, popping a pimple, and it has 12 million views. You don't determine what people want. They tell you what they want. It's mind boggling. If you look at our social media or anyone's social media, they can have one or two videos every couple months that pop, and it's probably never what they think. If you looked at all of our videos of all time, you know what our most viewed videos are? Me giving my wife our dog pimple popping. And when we had a slap bet and one of us lost and we had to slap the other.

[Steve Covino]

I'm sure every fellow who posts on social media could relate. You think that everybody's gonna love that picture of you and your kid, you and your you fishing, you and that killer joke you told. But some random one of you and your puppy gets millions of views out of nowhere, you're like, huh?

[Rich Davis]

So how did that happen? Let me explain again. You don't tell people what they want. They tell you what they want. And right now at the NBA, there's.

[Steve Covino]

No blueprint on what catches or what hits or what goes viral or what. People like you just happen.

[Rich Davis]

You can't organically tell me what to be interested in. It sounds ridiculous, but detail is oldest time, Rich.

[Steve Covino]

It's like any artist, right, they always have the story of we weren't even gonna put that song on the album. And the one that they weren't gonna put on the album is the big hit and the one they thought was the big hit. No one give gave a diddly squat about it.

[Rich Davis]

Oh, great example. Shaggy.

[Steve Covino]

The cartoon.

[Rich Davis]

Like, Scoob, no, not Shaggy. The art of Shaggy, the song. It wasn't me. There's a great story behind that song Shaggy released. You know, he had Mr. Boombastic in the 90s, that was a hit, but he had a couple stinkeroos in there, and the record label Was like, yeah, I think we're dropping. We're dropping Shaggy. This, you know, reggae pop stuff isn't working. And the label was like, yeah, we're done. What do you got? What's the song? It wasn't. No, it wasn't me. This is all nonsense. Some random radio person, I believe, in Hawaii played it. A couple important people were on vacation, heard it. Long story short, this thing spreads like wildfire. Shaggy's a huge star. It Wasn't Me was one of the biggest songs of the 2000s.

[Steve Covino]

So the big kahuna played it on the radio and became a hit.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And now the big buffoon is talking about it in Fox Sports.

[Rich Davis]

So the thought is everyone said no, but you know what? The public said, no, no, no. That's the one we like.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. You don't know a rock band. You don't know what's gonna say.

[Rich Davis]

A rock band will say the label resisted this song, and then they put it out for, like, the fans, and it became their big hit.

[Steve Covino]

Always happens.

[Rich Davis]

Long story short, too alert the NBA. Much like all these things, you can't force on people what you think will work. And. And I'm not saying they're forcing it on us. But right now, if you were to say what should be the Western Conference finals, for example, right? Okc, you got Alexander, sga, Hartenstein, Jalen Williams, a team that plays as a team. You got Jokic, who's fundamentally sound. You got the Grizzlies with, you know, Jaren Jackson and Ja and everyone. Point is, if I were to ask you, Cavino, who intrigued you, there's no young start. Maybe Wemby, when he first entered the league, when we were all like, ooh, we got to see this guy, we're still talking about, essentially, the older guys in the NBA. LeBron, Steph, KD, Kyrie, like, that all.

[Steve Covino]

Happened in the past few years, though. NBA was doing a great job of creating new stars for a long time.

[Rich Davis]

But those new stars. Time has passed. Kavino.

[Steve Covino]

Exactly. No, that's. I'm just saying that's all recent.

[Rich Davis]

What teams. What teams intrigue. You ask yourself that. And the sad reality is it's veteran teams holding on because you just.

[Steve Covino]

Well, I would say. And I mean no disrespect to Danny G, our super producer, who's on the phones at 87799 on Fox, or any LeBron fan out there. But I think it's because of his longevity. We're still so focused on LeBron that conversations always come back to him.

[Rich Davis]

And the Lakers, LeBron's son, who isn't even NBA ready. And I see that got more attention than any young star in years, other than Wemby.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe that's what I mean. Like, I say that, hey, props to him, but in reality, that conversation feels like 2000s. LeBron James, and we're still talking about him. I was wearing Jinko jeans when we were talking about LeBron James 20 years ago, and we're still talking about the guys.

[Rich Davis]

Is LeBron James still playing?

[Steve Covino]

There's room to talk about other people, but when it comes back to him, like, you're not really having conversations about the guys you should be talking about.

[Rich Davis]

If I were.

[Steve Covino]

That's part of it.

[Rich Davis]

If I were to say Covino.

[Steve Covino]

And that's the only reason.

[Rich Davis]

Like, look at the Western Conference, right? When you think of the teams that you would want to see, they're just the names of older veterans that you've seen before. Does. Does the idea of. Does the idea of, like, OKC get you all fired up? Or Cleveland?

[Steve Covino]

It takes a minute, too. It does. You know, I brought up music before. I don't like songs the first time I hear them. That's very rare. Familiarity takes a minute. You don't have to listen to him three, four times before I'm like, yo, that one's the banger.

[Rich Davis]

Let's.

[Steve Covino]

So, I mean, it takes a minute to start to know a little bit about these superstars. And that's what All Star Weekend is kind of about. It puts them on a major platform, and you get to familiarize yourself with these guys, with these new stars.

[Rich Davis]

But you tell me, is that how you look at it, or do you agree that you can't really force on people what they're supposed to be interested in? We'll take your feedback, we'll break, we'll come back. Because you can talk about in any sport, right? I'm a big Mets fan. Pete Alonso, on paper, you always say, should be a bigger star, but there's something about him. Like, does anyone care about Pete Alonso other than me? And Mets fans? During free agency, it seemed like no one cared about him. And you're. You're the first. Gotta say, here's a guy that hits 40 or 50 home runs, he's a slugger. He does the whole LFM, you know, let's effin go Mets. Everyone loves him. You would think, but do they?

[Steve Covino]

Well, I think there's something about his personality that's not translating in New York and on a mainstream level where people think he's just a goofy, boring sort of player that hits bombs. And maybe there's something to be said about the NBA, but put your finger on it. What was rubbing you wrong with some of these younger players? You know, maybe it is like not wanting to participate in a slam dunk contest. Watch Mac McLunk. Maybe it's how pampered and annoying some of these players are and, and load management. Maybe it's just rubbing people the wrong way. So maybe it's not necessarily them, you know, why isn't it translating is the question, I guess. We're live from the Mercedes Benz studios. We got Shaq Diesel trivia. Speaking of the NBA, Shaq Diesel trivia later on today, giving away some prizes. But when it comes to Rich's NBA analogy, what are your thoughts? 87799 on Fox, Fox Sports Radio has.

[Rich Davis]

The best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, Steve Covino.

[Rich Davis]

And I'm Rich Davis.

[Steve Covino]

And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports RA.

[Rich Davis]

You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app.

[Steve Covino]

Why should you listen to Covino and Rich?

[Rich Davis]

We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world.

[Steve Covino]

We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss.

[Rich Davis]

And the fact that we've been friends for the last 20 years and still work together, I mean, that says something, right?

[Steve Covino]

So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say.

[Rich Davis]

I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth.

[Steve Covino]

Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific.

[Rich Davis]

And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. It's the last game of the season and with amex, you can save time with card member entrances at select venues and go straight to the action so you can catch every moment. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Learn [e-mail] with Amex. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but, like, all the little thumbs up and heart stuff, like, it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental when you. When you send it. It was like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Steve Covino]

Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King iii, and together with my wife, Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger.

[Rich Davis]

We explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives. Each week, we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, and Billy Porter and their plus one, their ride or Die as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to My legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This. This is my legacy. Something about Mary Poppins. Something about Mary Poppins. Exactly. Oh, man, this is fun. I'm A.J. jacobs, and I am an author and a journalist, and I tend to get obsessed with stuff, and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler. Dressing. Dressing.

[Steve Covino]

French dressing.

[Rich Davis]

Exactly. Oh, that's good. Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears. I thought to myself, I bet I know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is.

[Steve Covino]

This is so weird.

[Rich Davis]

This is fun. Let's try this one. Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt, and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. That's awful, and I should have seen it coming. Hey, this is Mel Reid, LPGA Tour winner and six time ladies European Tour winner and Kiera K. Dixon, NBC sports reporter and host. You forgot to say all my Miss America, by the way. And we've got new podcasts. Quiet Please with Mel and Kira. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower or just people we like. Plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, Brads and Chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We Heather McMahon, Amanda Baliotis. So if you want to keep up with us and here is yap, tune into our new podcast. Listen to Quiet Please with Mel and Kyra, an iHeart women's sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports, Covino and Rich in.

[Steve Covino]

For the great Dan Patrick Day one of the Dan Patrick Hatrick. Live from Mercedes Benz Studios, I'm Steve Cavino. That is Rich Davis. Good morning. Hope you had a great Valentine's weekend, papi. Hope you enjoyed some Russell Stovers. Hope you enjoyed the NBA All Star Game. Was it SNL or Cobra Kai that overshadowed the everything NBA All Star Game? We're taking your calls and your feedback now on Rich's NBA analogy. He's basically saying that there's no blueprint on what works and what doesn't work. But I hope you had a nice weekend. A Steph Curry sort of weekend. He got the MVP, his second All Star Game MVP. The OG's got the win. We'll play some Shaq Diesel trivia. But you want to explain again, Rich?

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, I mean, it's evident that in general we like to think that we could tell people what they're interested in, what they like, what they gravitate towards. Networks do it, podcasts do it, TV shows, movies. There's a sentiment that, oh, we know what the public wants, but a lot of times the public just tells you what they want. You could try to push a new artist, a new athlete, a new face of a company on the general public, but they could very well just be like, no, we don't like that. We like that. It's like the famous story Of Happy Days. Fonzie wasn't supposed to be the main character. How I met your mother. It wasn't supposed to be about Barney Stinson. Did I do that? Urkel?

[Steve Covino]

How about this one? Corey Nichols wasn't supposed to be anything more than a quick cameo on Cobra Kai.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, that. Same category as Fonzie.

[Steve Covino]

It's more relevant than Henry Winkler, even though I love him. I'm just saying. The season premiere just wrapped up. Tori, she's the main character of Cobra Kai.

[Rich Davis]

But it just shows you that, you know, like I said, Urkel, Fonzie, these are not designed, the public decided so you could say he. These are the new faces of our sport. But if the public doesn't gravitate towards them. If you ask the average NBA fan what matchup you'd want in the NBA, most people would say, I don't know, maybe, like the warriors and the Lakers, because they're still hung up on Steph and LeBron and those older faces.

[Steve Covino]

I think, you know, I think if. If you're asking, why is this? Because your point is valid. I think everybody and everything goes through transitional ups and downs, like transitional phases. We. I think we were a little spoiled in the NFL. Like, when we got all these slew of new quarterbacks, it made the transition easier. He's like, whoa, wait a second. All these dudes are really good.

[Rich Davis]

I mean, we say goodbye to the.

[Steve Covino]

Old guys and you. You embrace the new guys immediately.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, we say goodbye to Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and, you know, Drew Brees and that crew of quarterbacks. But we also welcomed in Burrow Jackson, Josh Allen, like, Jalen hurts that.

[Steve Covino]

So it's like the holidays when you're growing up. Remember when you were a kid how great the holiday seemed then? Everybody grew up and no one had kids yet. So the holidays seemed boring because you were going through that transitional stage of life and family. All of a sudden, your sister started having kids, and there was kids back in the mix, and the holidays got exciting again. You're like, oh, wow, their holidays are back. I guess, no, we just got through that transitional stage, and maybe the NBA, all the changes they're making and all the changes they're forced to make and thinking about the way the game has changed with three points and it's become boring. And Silver's trying to figure out, well, how do we. How do we fix it? And the new format for the All Star Game, all these things are a little confusing to people. There's a new slew of characters that not everybody's embracing it. It's just the transition. Like I said, they'll be, they'll be a moment in time where all of a sudden you're like, ah, I have.

[Rich Davis]

Another, I have another reason who's arguably the best major league baseball player that's never sniffed the postseason. For the most part. For the most part.

[Steve Covino]

Trout.

[Rich Davis]

Mike Trout. Right. You could argue maybe not most, the most personality plus guy. But you know what also takes a star like Mike Trout from being next level star never being relevant when it matters in the playoffs? Do you think maybe if the spurs or more of an elite team and had more weapons and more, you know, more of a vibe around Wemby, Wemby to me is the most intriguing young star. But in a league where 20 of the 30 teams make the playoffs, they're still on the outside looking in. Is that a part of it too where Danny, the biggest young star that might be the biggest quote attraction, isn't even on a playoff caliber team?

[Steve Covino]

Well, one of my favorite players in.

[Rich Davis]

The league right now is De'Aaron Fox.

[Steve Covino]

And the Kings traded him to the Spurs.

[Rich Davis]

So the spurs are trying to work on what you're talking about right now. I mean, you can't.

[Steve Covino]

We're coming off of crazy highs of a great MLB season, first time in a long time.

[Rich Davis]

But it backs it up.

[Steve Covino]

What I said Ohtani, another exciting NFL season and then you're like NBA and you're trying to play catch up now.

[Rich Davis]

But no, but it goes back to what I'm saying. Ohtani is the biggest star. But guess what? He also did. The biggest star. Showed up on the biggest stage and that team won the World Series.

[Steve Covino]

I think once the, I'm stating the obvious here, but once the playoffs are kicking in and you're seeing LeBron and Luca do their thing again, big team, big national nationwide team, not just here in LA with superstars that you recognize when you see them competing with these younger dudes that you really don't know that well, you start kicking in and your fandom starts to kick in and you start getting excited about it.

[Rich Davis]

Luka and LeBron, Steph and Draymond, like there's names that you want to say.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah, but you're tuning into the NBA right after the NFL, right after super bowl. You're all hyped up about super bowl and then you're tuning into the NBA because it's all there is to tune into right. As we approach all Star break. So that's kind of boring as a casual NBA fan.

[Rich Davis]

Let's go To Andy in Rhode Island. Andy. What is it? I mean, Andy, I don't want to talk about. Well, the NBA, it's the three pointers and this and that. Andy. To me, it's just saying you just.

[Steve Covino]

Can'T force what works.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah, you can't force. You can't tell people what they like. No, absolutely, guys. And I feel that because, you know.

[Steve Covino]

A lot of it kind of just.

[Rich Davis]

Goes back to revisionist history because, you know, we can't really see who's going to be, you know, the next breakout generation of players ahead of time. So we kind of just cling back.

[Steve Covino]

To, you know, the guys that are.

[Rich Davis]

Still in the league that have been.

[Steve Covino]

Doing it for so long. Because I feel like a lot of it has to do with social media.

[Rich Davis]

We have so much access to these guys that in a sense, it's always on to the next with the current society that we live in nowadays. And it's just so tricky because we want to embrace the new guys.

[Steve Covino]

But then I feel like a lot.

[Rich Davis]

Of these new guys, they don't have that superstar, you know, that polarizing energy that we look forward to.

[Steve Covino]

Just like you go back to Michael.

[Rich Davis]

Jordan, he was so polarizing, but he was such a mystery because he didn't have all the access to him.

[Steve Covino]

So that I feel like that's the biggest difference.

[Rich Davis]

And, you know, like you guys said, it's a transitional phase, and we'll see where it goes. Right now, it's just up in the air. You know, we can only hope for the best for the NBA, but it seems like we're embracing the NFL stars a lot faster because the NFL is just king. It really is.

[Steve Covino]

It is. And it's that. That good of a product where you're not really competing with anything. If you're a casual NBA fan, you're oversaturated with other options. Like, if you asked me honestly over the weekend.

[Rich Davis]

Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

Would you rather watch the NBA All Star Game or Cobra Kai? I'm watching Cobra Kai. Sounds ridiculous, but we have. My point is you have options, as your mom would say, up the wazoo. You have so many other things to watch competing with all these other things, you know, so it's a mixture. It's a perfect storm of all of these things, Rich. You can't force these things. The new formats, the new stars, and you have all these other things to watch.

[Rich Davis]

George in la. What's up, bud? Stop. Fellas. What's up, man?

[Steve Covino]

Hey, buddy.

[Rich Davis]

Hey, man. Glad to hear you guys this morning. It was a good surprise. Oh, nice, man.

[Steve Covino]

Surprise, surprise with your daughter, bro.

[Rich Davis]

That was cool, man. That was real cool.

[Steve Covino]

Hey, thanks, man. It was all right. You know, it's a weird. It's a weird moment to just sort of accept that you're a daughter. It's not her first boyfriend, but she's 15 now, so it's different, right?

[Rich Davis]

Oh, yeah. So what's on your mind, George? Hey, bro, I tell you, it wasn't cool, that rinky dinky All Star game, bro. That. It was pretty lame. It was non competitive. They need to come up with the better idea.

[Steve Covino]

Maybe.

[Rich Davis]

How about like something like what hockey does. That hockey game was. Was beast, bro. That was awesome. First. Oh, yeah. Hockey stole the weekend with their fights. I mean, hockey fights. You know what it was this weekend was hockey fights. Saturday Night Live 50 and a couple other things that all sort of overshadowed.

[Steve Covino]

It was a pickleball tournament. There was some crazy crashes in the.

[Rich Davis]

Daytona 500 when that picked up after the weather delay. Yeah, I don't want to. I don't want to be the guy that piles on I don't want to kick the NBA wall stuff.

[Steve Covino]

If you weren't painting the narrative, then you wouldn't be accurate either. And that was the narrative on if you took the temperature on social media and just the buzz of what people were saying about All Star Weekend. That's exactly it.

[Rich Davis]

But you know, if you see it.

[Steve Covino]

Otherwise, feel free to share. We're just painting the picture for you.

[Rich Davis]

As I said to you, I don't want to. I just don't want to pile on and be like, yeah, NBA stinks, right, guys? Because I just think there's. They're trying. Adam Silver's trying. I'm just saying you can't people to like something.

[Steve Covino]

I mean, another thing, though, just to show that you're not rich is. Again, that's the overall sentiment of how people are feeling. Right. So we're not going to come here and be like, dude, that was electric, are we? Would sound ridiculous. Yeah, right. Draymond Green over the weekend was basically talking about how flat it was, how weak it was, how you have these, you know, young players out there that don't deserve to be out there and that the format didn't work. Like he made it. No secret. And that's been a theory of ours too, on this show. When you have the analysts and former players and current players dumping on the product, how do you expect the casual fan to be excited about it? That's bad marketing. Yeah, there were 20 minute breaks in that bracket final.

[Rich Davis]

And a lot of the players spoke out afterwards saying they didn't like it.

[Steve Covino]

They understand that it needs to be.

[Rich Davis]

Kind of stretched out for tv.

[Steve Covino]

Right. And they're just being honest. But like Kevin Hart was doing stand up and little skits and he was.

[Rich Davis]

At LeBron's locker putting his shoes on.

[Steve Covino]

And, you know, and Trey Young said.

[Rich Davis]

He was part of Chuck's global stars.

[Steve Covino]

I didn't like the breaks.

[Rich Davis]

The games were so short. Obviously we can score.

[Steve Covino]

So they're trying to, I feel like.

[Rich Davis]

Extend the game, you know, because they need breaks and things like that. But the players want to play.

[Steve Covino]

Yeah. And I think the silver lining here is they're trying to figure it out or trying to give you something else. Like we always say, rich Gary V. We quote him innovate or die to try to innovate and trying to make things exciting. So that's the positive. They're testing it on live TV though.

[Rich Davis]

Is the the issue. It's like us.

[Steve Covino]

Once in a while on our afternoon show, we'll test a game, a new.

[Rich Davis]

Game that we're going to play. Yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And it kind of evolves into the.

[Rich Davis]

Final product that we put on the air every week.

[Steve Covino]

In that first week or two, we do it, we laugh, we have fun with it. It's a little rough, but imagine millions and millions of viewers watching something you're trying to figure out in real time.

[Rich Davis]

You know, your final thoughts on the NBA All Star Weekend. We'll get to that. Plus a birthday of maybe the most famous athlete of our lifetime. And will there ever be another? We'll explain. That's all coming up next. Your buds kavin on Rich in for Dan Patrick right here, Fox Sports Radio. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Count your way into a perfect night with Amex Gold. One restaurant, two friends, three amazing dishes. And four times Membership Rewards points on purchases at restaurants and U.S. supermarkets. That's the powerful backing of American Express. Terms apply. Capitalize. Learn more@american express.com with Andrew Max. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than Just your base, basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I, I texted you and you text me back. Now I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink. There was something sentimental. When you, like when you send it, it's like, do I send the heart now? I don't like the color edition. It's extremely pink. Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Steve Covino]

Welcome to My Legacy. I'm Martin Luther King III and together with my wife Andrea Waters King, and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

[Rich Davis]

Each week we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Billy Porter and their plus one, their ride or die as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey. Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy. Something about Mary Poppins. Something about Mary Poppins. Exactly. Oh, man, this is fun. I'm AJ Jacobs and I am an author and a journalist and I tend to get obsessed with stuff and my current obsession is puzzles. And that has given birth to my podcast, the Puzzler. Dressing. Dressing.

[Steve Covino]

French dressing.

[Rich Davis]

Exactly. Oh, that's good. Now you can get your daily puzzle nuggets delivered straight to your ears. I thought to myself, I bet I know what this is. And now I definitely know what this is.

[Steve Covino]

This is so weird.

[Rich Davis]

This is fun. Let's try this one. Our brand new season features special guests like Chuck Bryant, Mayim Bialik, Julie Bowen, Sam Sanders, Joseph Gordon Levitt and lots more. Listen to the Puzzler every day on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. That's awful and I should have seen it coming. Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA tour winner and six time ladies European tour winner and Kyra K. Dixon, NBC sports reporter and host. You forgot to say warmer. Miss America, by the way. And we've got a new podcast, Quiet please. With Mel and Kira. We are bringing you spicy takes on sports and pop culture, some golf haps and interviews with incredible people who have figured out how to make golf their superpower or just people we like, plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, brads and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code and we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Amanda Baliotis. So if you want to keep up with us and here is yap, tune into our new podcast Listen to Quiet please with Mel and Kira, an iHeart women's sports sports production in partnership with Deep Blue Sports and Entertainment. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of.

[Steve Covino]

Iheart Women's Sports, it's CNR Covino and Rich, CNR on FSR. And for Dan Patrick, day one of the Dan Patrick Hat trick. Live in Mercedes Benz Studios. Danny G's on the phones at 877-99-FOX. No one's in a comment on my sweet top hat today for President's Day.

[Rich Davis]

You know what? I'm going to drop some presidential fun facts.

[Steve Covino]

Oh, I can't wait a little bit.

[Rich Davis]

I'll tell you where.

[Steve Covino]

Happy President's Day, papi. I don't know if you have the day off or the kiddies do, but hope you enjoy the day. Hope you had a nice Valentine's Day weekend. Hope you had a nice NBA All Star weekend. Think Rich is really struggling, trying to put his finger on the reason that it's just kind of lackluster and boring. But you don't have to look that hard, Rich. It's a transitional stage. You're not familiar with a lot of these young players. It happens in life all the time. And when the stars of the league, when the stars aren't hyped about it, it's impossible for you to be hyped about it. Listen to Draymond Green talk about it over the weekend.

[Rich Davis]

You work all year to be an All Star and you get to play.

[Steve Covino]

Up to 40 and then you're done. This is so unfair to Victor Wyama.

[Rich Davis]

Who just took this game really seriously.

[Steve Covino]

Shay Gil Alexander, who just took this game really seriously.

[Rich Davis]

When you talk about chasing after the points records, Melo and Kobe and all.

[Steve Covino]

These guys who've had great scoring nights.

[Rich Davis]

They don't get the opportunity to do that with this game. Also, we can watch some rising stars.

[Steve Covino]

We about to watch the Olympic team. Now we get the treat of watching.

[Rich Davis]

The Olympic team play against a U19 team. Come on. What are we doing? On a scale of 1 to 10, your thoughts of the four men? 10 being the best.

[Steve Covino]

Yes.

[Rich Davis]

A zero sucks. Zero sucks.

[Steve Covino]

And he looked mad about it too. So you're watching this as a fan. It puts it in perspective. Like, oh, well, because sometimes you're thinking, it's me. Is it me? Why am I not, like, zoned in on this? Why am I not excited about it? It's not you. Even though we suffer from short attention.

[Rich Davis]

Spans, I thought about it.

[Steve Covino]

There's something flat about it. Even Stu Gotz wrote, if Dalton Connect, your boy Danny G is playing in your all star game. It's not an all star game. It's a some star scale.

[Rich Davis]

Come on. But I think I came to the conclusion. I thought about Connect look good.

[Steve Covino]

I know.

[Rich Davis]

I thought about.

[Steve Covino]

I'm just, you know, that's the vibe of everybody.

[Rich Davis]

I thought about it because I said I don't want to pile on and just be another sports, tv, radio, podcast that's like, you know, the NBA struggling. Yeah, yeah.

[Steve Covino]

And let's be fair, Rich Draymond's sour.

[Rich Davis]

And salty about a lot of things, of course. But I think here there's two layers. Number one, anything that is, you know, resembling a solution to the NBA's struggling ratings or interest, all equate to less money, shorter season, less playoff teams, shorter games, and anything that would possibly be a, quote, step in the right direction, all equal loss of revenue. So those are not answers. And then also think about this one. This is interesting. Maybe we just need to see someone do something no one's done. Let me explain. When Michael Jordan was dunking and taken off from the three point line, the free throw line, when these guys were doing ridiculous things, Michael Jordan revolutionized Steph.

[Steve Covino]

Curry, hit a half court shot.

[Rich Davis]

How we, you know, fly through the air. Steph Curry revolutionized the three point shot. Magic Johnson sort of revolutionized ball handling. Right? Are we just waiting for some star. Yes, I said ball handling. Are we waiting for someone to just do something drastically different that we haven't seen?

[Steve Covino]

I mean, Matt McLung jumped over a car over this week.

[Rich Davis]

Do we need.

[Steve Covino]

We never saw anyone jump over the actual top of the car. No, your boy beat Griffin, jumped over the hood, right? We've seen he jumped over a car. This dude. That was pretty dope.

[Rich Davis]

But think about it. What else could be done? And I hate to compare it to, you know, something terrible, but sort of like smut, right? Like, people keep pushing the envelopes because I guess regular bedroom activity isn't enough anymore. Categories out there, we get desensitized. And I'm like, all right, so now we see guys hitting half court shots. We see guys, you know, reverse dunking and doing everything. Do we need something else? Maybe that's it. We got more CNR next in for Dan Patrick right here on Fox Sports Radio. Hang tight.

[Steve Covino]

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[Rich Davis]

Calling all Yellowstone fans, let's go to work.

[Steve Covino]

Join Bobby Bones on the official Yellowstone Podcast for exclusive cast interviews, behind the scenes influence insights and a deep dive into the themes that have made Yellowstone a cultural phenomenon.

[Rich Davis]

Our family legacy is this ranch.

[Steve Covino]

When I protect, I live my life. Listen to the official Yellowstone podcast Now.

[Rich Davis]

On the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or.

[Steve Covino]

Wherever you get your podcasts.

[Rich Davis]

We all have a moment that splits us wide open. On my new podcast, Wide Open with Ashlyn Harris, I'll sit down with trailblazers from sports, music, fashion, entertainment and politics to explore their toughest moments and the incredible comebacks that followed. Listen to Wide Open with Ashlyn Harris, an iHeart women's sports production on the iHeartradio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Elf Beauty, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports. Tickets are on sale now y'all, for our 2025 I Heart country festival presented.

[Steve Covino]

By Capital one, happening Saturday, May 3rd.

[Rich Davis]

At the Moody center in Austin, Texas.

[Steve Covino]

Don't miss your chance to see Brooks.

[Rich Davis]

And Dunn, Thomas Rhett, Rascal Flash, Cole Swindell, Sam Hut, Megan Maroney, Bailey Zimmerman, Nate Smith. Tickets are on sale [e-mail] Black History.

[Steve Covino]

Month is here and we're excited to kick off season four. Foe if I didn't know, maybe you didn't either.

[Rich Davis]

This season we're shining a spotlight on.

[Steve Covino]

Revolutionary women who redefined excellence.

[Rich Davis]

Give Grace Wisher her flowers next time you see the American flag. You just remember a 16 year old black woman helped to make it happen. Listen to I didn't know. Maybe you didn't either from the Black Effect Podcast Network on the iHeartRadio app.

[Steve Covino]

Apple Podcast, or simply wherever you get your podcast.