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And Jerry Jones, of course, talked about Micah Parsons signing him to a contract extension. I'll go back to what I talked to Albert Breer about yesterday. He, of course, the Monday morning quarterback. If you're going to eventually pay these players, why have any acrimony? Why not just we know that Jerry Jones is going to pay Micah Parsons, right? I have a hunch the Bengals will pay Trey Hendrickson. Now. I'm sure they're saving money. I'm sure that they have some business strategy here that I, of course, with my limited education, wouldn't understand. But there's also Jerry Jones who loves being Jerry Jones. He loves to be. If he had already settled this Michael Parsons contract, then maybe we would be just talking about the Cowboys as a team and how good they're going to be. But it's rarely that now. That'll happen later in the season. But with Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones said this about signing him to a contract extension. Just because we sign him doesn't mean we're going to have him. He was hurt six games last year. Seriously, we've signed. I remember signing a player for the highest paid at the position in the league and he got knocked out two thirds of the year. Dak Prescott. So there's a lot of things you can think about, just as the player does when you're thinking about committing and guaranteeing money. Okay, you might think this, but you don't have to say the quiet part out loud. Why? Because then all of a sudden now you're Micah Parsons. How do you feel about this? You know, we go back to Dak Prescott and I said, don't resign him. And plus, you gave him all that money. If you're going to give somebody money, give it to Micah Parsons. But he made Dak the highest paid quarterback coming off ankle surgery. What's the logic in that? And a guy who's now 32 can't stay healthy and you gave him all that money? That I don't understand your business philosophy. As for Micah Parsons. Yes. Did he miss games? Yes. When he plays, he's great. You got the Bengals situation with Trey Hendrickson. All he's done is outperform every other edge rusher the last two years when it comes to sacks. And the NFL doesn't pay you on what you did. They pay you on what they think you'll do. Here's the Bengals owner, Mike Brown on Trey Hendrickson. We aren't going to trade Trey. We're working to get Trey signed as we speak here. There are guys over in the office working to get that done. We like Trey as a person. He's a good guy. But when it comes to these negotiations, and we've been through a few of them with him, he pushes hard, he gets emotional. We never have an easy time of it. But there's one thing that is consistent. It always gets done. And I think this one will. Okay, it does get done. But why drag this out? Why have this back and forth? It just doesn't help the tone of the team. The Bengals should be thinking about, hey, how do we make the playoffs this year? Hey, we need a little defense if we're going to make the playoffs. Hey, we spent all this money on offense. Can we stop anybody? They're going to be a lot of shootouts there with the Bengals. Why not just have Trey Hendrickson and whatever you're going to give him. Three year deal. Now, I know he's four years, I think four years older than Micah Parsons. Well, he's. He's not Micah Parsons, but he is really good at what he is paid to do. It's just the Bengals are notoriously cheap with this and that's unfortunate because you spent all this money on your wide receivers and your quarterback. Your quarterback said, I need those guys. Now. I don't know if Joe Burrow said, hey, by the way, I also need somebody who can stop Somebody so I'm not on the field, and I have to score touchdowns every single time I'm out there. But maybe that would have helped. But now you look at these situations now, will they get done? Yes. I just. These are different approaches because Mike Brown doesn't say much. Jerry Jones says too much. And I don't know why you bring up something with Dak Prescott. I don't know why. Why you bring up something with Micah Parsons. Now, I know he loves to be in the headlines, and the Cowboys are constantly in the headlines. Nobody has produced less but gained more attention in the history of sports than the Dallas Cowboys. And here we are again. Yeah, Paulie. I was actually more bothered by the Bengals owner Mike Brown calling Trey Hendrick emotional about his contract situation. This guy's 30 years old. This is his last chance to get paid. He gets roughed up. He's never gotten the monster contract. This is it. This is his livelihood for him and his family the rest of his life. You could see why. Be emotional about it. Yeah, but just because you're emotional about it, I have to look at. It's still a business. He's 34. It's a business. What do I want to pay him? Am I going to pay him? T.J. watt, Michael Parsons, Miles Garrett, money? No, I'm not. And you would think you would earn it based off what you've done, but that's not the way it works. Certainly with what the Bengals approach is on this. With Trey Hendrickson. Yeah. See, wouldn't Mike Brown be dealing with Trey Hendrickson's agent? Yeah. So what is the, like. I mean, maybe I'm just being naive, but the whole, like, well, you know, he gets really emotional and all this. He pushes hard, but he gets emotional. Well, is that his agent telling Mike Brown that, well, you know, my client is really emotional about this, or is he just projecting it through the agent? Isn't that the whole point of dealing with an agent is so that you can do exactly what you just said? You remove emotion from it, and now this is just business. It's just us two. It's not the player who's going to be emotional about it. It's just me, the agent and the owner. That's it. I think Trey has had some comments, you know, the last couple of months, so I think that's the emotional part of it, but surprised that you do bring up emotion? Yes. This is your contract. Mike Brown's going to have 15 contracts to deal with. This is the only one Trey Hendrickson has. And of Course you would be emotional. You've given everything to the team. You've played hard, you've outperformed your contract. But you know that if you look at the why the NFL is so successful, it is a league that favors owners and fans. So we get. We get to consume. It's great for us, and it's great for the owners, not necessarily great for the players. And now you have this turmoil with the NFL Players Association. Where is their collusion? Was there, you know, the Players association in cahoots with owners to try to stop these guaranteed contracts after Deshaun Watson? I mean, there's a whole lot going on here. And I think TJ Watt got his deal done. He got it in his salary that we said this is probably where he's landing around 40 or $41 million. I just don't understand why it has to be dragged out. Unless they say, well, we can save X number of dollars by doing it later on. Well, then just tell the player, hey, we're going to get this done. Let's just keep it quiet. No need to go back and forth. But that's the problem with this. It just feels like it's unwanted attention. Now. Jerry loves it. He doesn't care. And I didn't realize this, and I remember that you had a couple of analysts who came on the show and they said, he loves this. He loves the attention more than anything else. It's not about winning. It's about the attention that he gets in the process. I said, well, if he wins, he'll get a whole lot of attention, but you get addicted to that. Hey, are they talking about our team? Yeah, they are. It doesn't matter. You know, that's one of those. Any publicity is good publicity. Jerry Jones subscribes to that, and that's unfortunate. Yes, Todd, if they're ultimately going to pay Parsons. So this is a game of chicken. What is going to change with his ability or what the numbers are going to be? Jones is going to all of a sudden pay him sooner. The agent's going to take less from the Cowboys because they're concerned he's not going to get the money that he wants. No. He even said, well, you could get hit by a car. Like what is. Yes, yes, that's. That is true. He could get hit by a car, he could hit by lightning. Uh, there could be a lot of bad things that happen. But if you're saying, well, we don't know. I mean, Jerry, you've made bad decisions contract wise before. I don't think this is a bad contract decision. He's going to cost you. You need him right now. You're an average team. You overpaid at quarterback. You have drafted pretty well. Somebody in the front office must be doing a great job because they have had some surprise picks. And Jerry, you know, famously had some bad picks. Whether it's a head coach or keeping himself as the gm, Some of the signings that he has, this one seems logical. Of all the signings. Now, I love CD Lamb. I thought, okay, pay him. And Michael Parsons is a great disruptor. Dak Prescott is not a great quarterback. He's not a top 10 quarterback. But you paid him that way coming off ankle surgery. Yes. Yeah, Paul. Yeah, that's exactly right. Micah Parsons is exactly the case of giving the contract as fast as you can. Micah Parsons, in four years, three time All Pro, four time Pro Bowler, he's 25 years old. He's technically entering his prime. This seems like the smartest money. It's like the Joe Burrow contract. If you're the Bengals, you're happy to give Joe Burrow the most money in quarterback history at the time because all he did was play well for you. And now he's entering that second contract. He lived up to the draft, pick exactly what you want as an owner. It's like the only smart money is that second contract of a sure thing player. I want to make sure I got this correct. Trey hendrickson is. He's 30. 30? Yeah. Okay. Parsons is 26. Okay. So four years older. Okay. I don't know if I said 34, but I think he. The sack total was 35, maybe over the last two years. But I'm going to go back to the beginning of last season, and Seton brought this up, and we were just having a casual conversation. He goes, you know, the Cowboys, they're. It's a weird situation they're in. You're. You want Dak to play well, CD Lamb to play well, Micah Parsons to play well. But as a result, you must pay them. So they're going to live up to where you drafted them or how they performed. But then that can be a negative because you do have to pay these guys $130 million. 140 and $160 million. Well, that's three players where you got $130 million each season with these guys, and you don't have the performance that goes along with it because of the other players on the team. So it was kind of a good situation, but it was going to go bad because if they played well. You have to pay them commensurate to that. And that's exactly what happened. These guys are going to be. Michael will be the highest paid non quarterback in the NFL. You got Dak, who's the highest paid quarterback, and CD Lamb, who's what? Top five wide receiver. With what he's getting paid, those are good things that they play well. It's just I never would assign Dak Prescott to that contract extension. Yes, Paul, but you could go back to a mistake off a player who played well. Ezekiel Elliott, drafted in 2016, 1600 yards, 1000 yards, 1500 yards, 1400 yards. He carried the ball more than anyone in the sport for four straight years. And they gave him the monstrous second contract where he started going downhill. But they got caught up in. We drafted the running back high. He paid off. We must pay him when they should have done the discipline thing and not paid him. Yeah, I said, you got everything you wanted out of him. Move on from him. And then Jerry signs the contract extension. Even brings back Zeke Elliott again for another curtain call. I, you know, if you're loyal, great. But if you're loyal, don't say things publicly about Micah Parsons or Dak Prescott or anybody else on the team. It just sometimes he acts like he's a caller to a radio station and that's unfortunate. All right, we'll take a break. We'll settle on a poll question your phone calls. Always welcome. 877-3-DP Show. Email address dpdanpatrick Twitter handle PShow we'll take a break. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show. 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The official trading cards of the Dan Patrick show. Seaton, what is the poll question for the first hour of this program? Well, we got a few off of the scene. We might go a three poll question hour one. Might be a three poll question hour one. Threesome. Yeah, threesome trifecta. Okay. Jerry Jones. Dot, dot, dot. Shouldn't have said that or wasn't wrong. Now it can be both. Yes, it is both. It is. But you have to pick one. He either shouldn't have said that or what he said wasn't wrong. I think he should not have said that. I mean, that's your best player. That's. That's your best player. You don't need to say, hey, you know what, he got hurt last year or, you know, he could get hit by a car. It's, you're going to pay him. You're going to pay him a dollar more than tj Watt, you're going to, but let's not drag this out. And you, if you say something privately to his agent. Hey, hey, you know, see it from my perspective. Anytime you're in a negotiation, you must see the other side of it. And if you're an agent, you're like, all right, let me look at what Jerry's looking at. And Jerry should do the, the same. I don't know if Jerry does that, where he goes, you know, let me look at this through the agent's eyes or the player's eyes. Is this about me? Yes. That sounds a lot to me like Mike Brown's comments. Maybe that's something you say to the agent. You don't need to say it to everybody else. Man, your guy's a little emotional. Yes. Maybe, maybe we could take the emotion out of this. He's really pushing hard. He's a little emotional. I mean, to me, that's a silly comment. Like, this is this guy's livelihood. This will be probably the last contract he makes in the NFL. His last chance. Set his family up for life. You've played performed admirably at a all pro level the last two years. He wants something that is exemplary to, hey, look at what I did for you. Can you do something for me? And Mike Brown said, hey, you're a little emotional. Yes, because this is my contract. That's a silly comment by Mike Brown. I want somebody who cares. I want somebody who's emotional. If he went in there and he went whatever emotional would be, you know, why don't you trade me, get me out of here. This is a cheap organization. I'll go someplace where somebody wants me. That would be emotional. This is just normal. That's. You're just, you're fighting for every dollar. And that's all he's doing now. Yeah, Paulie, I actually weirdly like that. Jerry Jones said it. At least he's somewhat transparent about how most owners think of players as pawns or pieces that are interchangeable, except for the. The highest end quarterbacks and things like that. And it's almost refreshing to hear honesty while it doesn't help the Cowboys or the situation. But are you going to pay him? Yeah. Okay, then why say it? I think he's trying to explain that I'm doing everything I can to make sure I pay as least amount I can of the big contract I'm about to give this guy, which is weird. What about the logic of what you did with Dak Prescott? Now you can say, well, he learned from his mistakes. You gave Dak Prescott far too much money. You did that to him. And Micah Parsons is your best team, best player. Micah Parsons is one of the top 10 players probably in the NFL as far as impact on a game. Michael Parsons is that now you can say, hey, he gets injured. That's what you say to the agent. Hey, we're starting to get nicked up a little bit here. That's a concern I have. We love his performance, we love his passion. We gotta have him. But understand where I'm coming from. Like, that's what a negotiation is. And I went through negotiations before. Now I made them public because I, I thought they were humorous after the fact. When I had Mark Shapiro, who was my boss for years at espn, told my agent that I'm over the hill and I'll never get another job. And I thought, wow. And of, of course I resigned a bad deal at espn, but that's on me because I'm like, maybe he's right. Maybe I'm old and I'll never get another job. He said it to my agent. At least he didn't say it publicly where he, you know, put it in the newspaper. He's over the hill and never get another job. To which my wife said, well, then why is he offering you a contract if you're over the hill and nobody else is going to hire you? I go, that's good logic, hun. But I already signed the contract, so you don't have to say. I mean, I. Look, it's good content that he said it publicly. I just don't think it's professional. I don't think that that's how an owner should act privately. There's a lot of things that go on privately, but they stay private. This, this is unfortunate. Now, do they move past this? Yes. I mean, that's not their biggest issue. Their big biggest issue is trying to keep up with the Eagles and the Commanders. That's the problem. And, you know, who helps you do that? Micah Parsons does. All right, so we got a three for here with Jerry Jones. What are the other two, Seaton. More bothersome comments from Jerry Jones or Mike Brown? Both of them are. So they sort of split the room a little bit. Although I know I didn't really appreciate Mike Brown's comments either. Yeah, I don't need to hear about. He's emotional, you know, that's okay. Great. He's emotional. Did he perform for you? How was he when he was on the football field? Is he emotional because he's. This contract has been dragging out and he's looking at all these other edge rushers getting paid. And he's sitting there going, hello, Hello. Yeah, Pauling. I went back to OTAs and Trey Hendrickson did talk to the media. He showed up, he didn't work out. He spoke to the media and he was, I wouldn't use the word emotional, but he was candid and he said, he goes, I was promised certain things after my first time being all pro in leading the league in sacks, and now I'm asking for those things again. So you could understand his frustration. If you're told, hey man, you perform, we're going to give you the boat, the big contract, and then they push it back another year, you can understand a guy's frustration. He's done his job perfectly well. You also have the Bengals situation with their first round draft pick who's not in camp, and they want language in there that protects them. You know, everybody wants a guaranteed contract now. Every, everybody wants everything guaranteed, but I think there's language. If you get arrested, then, you know, you don't. You're not going to get paid. And I, Mike Brown said, hey, I don't want to pay somebody who's in jail. I think I'm okay with that rule. If you're technically in a cell, maybe I don't want to, I don't want to pay somebody in jail either. Yeah, but you, you're making that big leap that somehow your first round draft pick is. Could end up in jail or could end up in jail. I should say. What are the other, what's the other poll question here? Se we got one more for you off of these. With NFL contract situations, I'm team owners and league or players who decide with on contract disputes in the NFL more. Well, it feels like fans would side with the owner because players are interchangeable, but the owner, you know, salary cap and what that means with ticket price, I, I don't know. Maybe there's a trickle down there that you're like, you know, I gotta trust that guy. I think you want your player to get paid, but then when your player doesn't deserve to get paid, that's when you side with ownership. I mean, I wanted Saquon Barkley to get paid and they weren't going to pay him with the Giants. And I go, well, good, good for you. Go to the Eagles. And we saw what happened there, but I didn't go, well, I'm gonna side with the Giants ownership. You got to draw a line. And we probably do that with other players. But you know, I mean, I try not to comment too much on somebody's salaries, you know, unless it has something to do with what it means with other players, what it does with other quarterbacks, other edge rushers, running backs, those kind of things, then you can discuss it. But if you're willing to pay. All right. You know, and I go back to Dak Prescott. I have nothing against Dak Prescott. He's been very nice when he's been on the show, but I just wouldn't have paid him, and I just didn't understand that. Yes, Todd, I would tend to sign with the players, even though we're not talking. The average person can't deal with or relate to millions of dollars, but the average person working that feels like they want to be compensated properly, they put in a number of years and they get released, or they're not held in high regard, or they feel like they're being nickeled and dimed. So I would certainly make the argument that fans would, you know, side with the Play3DP show. David in Ohio. Hi, David. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan. Happy Tuesday. Yesterday, you guys were talking about Scotty Scheffler and how great of an athlete he is, which he is. I did a little research, and it looks like he's lives in Dallas, Texas. So it's really great to see an athlete bring a championship home to Dallas. Thank you. All right, I see that little shot there. Thank you, David. I think the over under for the Cowboys, though, it isn't it like 8 and a half, 7 and a half? 8 and a half? Something like that? Yeah, Paulie, it is. But three or four years ago, it was always ten and a half. Yeah, that's a drop. But that's when they were winning 13 games. They did have a run where they were winning games, and then they would lose, famously in the postseason. Yes. Todd, I wanted to add one more thing about the emotional Hendrickson and Parsons and people feeling that you get. Get the money, that they deserve a sport like football more than any other sport, especially baseball, best won the risk of injury and CTE and getting your head bashed in. I would be that much more emotional playing the sport of football, feeling like I'm not getting compensated what I deserve. Okay. It's okay for me to have, like, possible brain injuries years from now, but you're going to nickel and dime me when I'm one of the top 10 players in the league? Well, shelf life, you know, that's your career. You know, what is it? Three and A half years on average. I did run into a former player when we were in Tahoe, and he was kind of banged up. And I said, yeah, but, you know, you got your medical, you got your pension. He goes, no, I don't. I said, wait, the NFL does not take care of you? And he said, no, no. And I was surprised at that because this is a former marquee player, good player. And I, for some reason, thought that they had health benefits or that they would take care of. And this person has had a few surgery, he's still not in great shape, had a few surgeries, and for some reason, I thought that you got to a certain number of years, you got your pension, that they took care of you. And I was surprised at that. I also ran into somebody, and this one was interesting, and I don't know if this was ever made public, but it had to do with Clayton Kershaw, and, you know, him chipping pitches. And I ran into somebody in the Astros organization, used to be in the Astros organization. And we started just talking, and we got around to the sign stealing with the Astros and the garbage cans. And, you know, he said, oh, that's garbage can. You know, that wasn't a big deal. He said, you know, it was. The problem was we're looking at video in the hallway during games and then relaying that. I said, well, yeah, you got the information, then you relayed it, and then you bang garbage cans. So, you know, he. He didn't see it as that big a deal because he said, we weren't the only team that was doing that. A lot of teams do that in different ways. I said, okay. So we got around to. I told a story about Randy Johnson tipping his pitch and that players were afraid to tell him that he was tipping his pitches for some reason because Randy would. You know, he had a scowl. You didn't want to approach Randy Johnson. And. And they. This guy said, well, we found out with Clayton Kershaw that he was tipping his pitches. And I go, what. What were you noticing? He goes, he would go into his glove, and if he went into his glove in a certain way, we would read his forearm, his left forearm. So he would go in, and the tension of how he grabbed the ball. So if it's breaking ball, and I don't remember if it was breaking ball, change up, curveball, whatever it was, they would read his left forearm, and they would see how it looked different. Now, once again, this is. This is minutia, but how he went into his glove. And if you see When Kershaw goes into his glove, I mean, he's. It's like he's, you know, picking up something. You know, it was like really small and he's going to pick it up. And he went in and they would read his forearm and that told them what kind of pitch he was throwing. I don't know if that's ever been made public. Maybe there's other information out there. We know teams have picked up on him tipping his pitches, but, you know, I think the Cardinals probably did. But this is somebody who was in the Astros organization. Yes, Paulie, I can remember a bunch of years ago, we had Andy Pettit, the great pitcher from the Yankees, on the show, and you asked him something about how he. Remember he used to have his mitt right in front of his eyes. He said he watched tape on himself and tried to make every delivery look the same, like how it released where his feet were. And he would watch his own video to see if he was tipping, to try to mask it by having every delivery look the same placement. Well, yeah, I mean, that makes sense because if you're throwing a fastball or a change up, you want it to look the same. Johan Santana, we did a side by side on Sports center and Baseball Tonight years ago when I was there, and Johan Santana, great lefty. And I just remember Harold Reynolds putting side by side and Johan Santana was delivering two different pitches. One was a fastball, one was a change up. And I remember Harold Reynolds saying, tell me which one he's throwing. And I went, wow. That's when you look and you go, every pitch must be delivered the same way. Randy Johnson, you know, could go sidearm and then, you know, people would pick up on that. You know, maybe he wasn't up around 11 o', clock, he was down at, you know, 9:30. And they would be able to pick up. So just little things like that. You're looking for, you know, placement of your feet, whatever it is, you're looking at tension on a forearm of what kind of pitch you're throwing. Unbelievable. But see, that's not sign stealing. You know that. That's. To me, that's just being observant. Like there's certain things that are just part of baseball. I'm watching this. I'm not peeking in. You know, if you're a hitter and you peek back at the, you know, catcher, you're going to get hit by a pitch. But if somebody is doing something and I can read that that's not stealing. The other things that the Astros did that's stealing. 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That's your play of the day. Ohtani gave up a home run in the first inning and then hit a home run in the bottom of the first inning. So the last time that somebody gave up a home run and hit a home run in the first inning was Randy Lurch of the Phillies in 1979 against the Chicago Cubs. Lurch, you rang? Play of the day. Play of the day, brought to you by the great folks at Mako. Your car could use a little tlc. And that's what they do. They bring your car back to life. Affordable paint jobs like collision repairs. Get a free estimate today. Oh, better get Mako. Not many pitchers bat at the top of the lineup as Ohtani does. You give up a lead off home run and then you hit a leadoff home run. So Ohtani's homer, I think that's three consecutive games. I think the. He's done that 11 times. Is that in his career? Does that sound right, Marvin? Not sure. With the official numbers on Ohtani checking. All right, thank you. All right, a couple of phone calls in here. Scott in Cincinnati. Hi, Scott. What's on your mind today? Hey, Dan, how you doing? I played 19 years. And Scott, service picture, not the catcher, because I did strike him out in Chicago, by the way. But anyway, I got a little something about tipping pitches. So when I was with Kansas City 97 through 99, Mike Sweeney was my catcher. So I'm playing against him in 2000. I'm with Oakland. And he says, sir, there's something I got to tell you, but I can't tell you after the series. And I was like, what? He said, I can't tell you now. So I come in to pitch a few games a Couple games, and I give up, like, six runs in, like, two outings. And after the series, he says, well, I'm going to tell you right now, when you're throwing a fastball, your finger is off your glove. Four ball or slider, your. Your finger is down on the glove. So I end up getting that little leather patch for my pointer finger. But, yeah, he ended up telling me afterwards. All right, well, thank you, Scott. Yeah. This was, like, so precise that the Astros could read the forearm of Clayton Kershaw. Now, once again, this is somebody in the organization, no longer in the organization, telling me that they would look at. And if you watch a wind up of Kershaw, you'll see when he goes into that glove, it's, you know, very precise in how he's putting his hand in there. And they were reading the tension inside part of his forearm. Fascinating. Doug in North Carolina. Hi, Doug. Welcome back. I wish I could say it was a happy occasion to be back, but unfortunately, I have to talk about scandal and controversy. I don't think you're aware of this because you guys were off last week, but live on the air, Rich Eisen and his team have accused Fritzi of cheating in the family feud. They said their story is that both teams were warned ahead of time that you cannot repeat an answer. That Fritzi, in fact, repeated an answer of an Annette. Instead of getting an automatic strike, he was allowed to give a second answer. And Rich Eisen has announced that he's playing this game under protest. Tyler in the back room, boys, do have an audio clip of these allegations, and I just wanted to see if you were. Fritzi would like to comment. You know, this comes right on the hills of ritzy. Being accused of cheating in pickleball by staying in the kitchen. And it just feels like every time he exceeds and excels, there's these allegations behind it. So do you guys want to comment on this? Okay, I'm going to go to my I team, but thank you, Doug. Yes, Paulie. Yeah, Dan. During Celebrity Family Feud, at one point, when we went down the line and Steve Harvey's asking the questions, Fritzi half answered something that was already on the board, and they said, no, no, and they gave him another shot. That's up to the judges. That's not cheating on our end. Anyway, the judges make the call whether to let Fritzi finish the answer or not finish answer. So it wasn't on us. Was that during Fast Money? Todd? I don't. I honestly don't know what he's referring to. If It's Fast Money. That happens all the time. You give the answer of the first person, and they go. The meaning give a second answer. If it was during the actual game itself, I'd love to know what that was that I was partially saying that was on the board. But fast money, that happens all the time. And then you have to give another answer because it was already used. That's why they give you seconds on the second guy. I thought it was during Fast Money that you might have said something went, you know. Well, you said flowers, and I said roses, and then they said, give another answer, and they said jewelry. But that's a common thing, you know. Again, that's why they give you extra seconds, the second player, because you may repeat answers from the first person. But it was during the actual game. I don't know what that was. Yeah, see? So I think what the Eisen show is saying, both of which to me are odd, there's only two options. Either the celebrity Family Feud people don't know their own rules of the game, or they deliberately bent them because they wanted us to win and not Rich Eisen, which also seems very odd. You know, it's a funny thing about when you're going through that process, we're there and we're thinking of, like, content, like, who had good jokes and who had the funny moment, who had all this stuff? And they actually have a game show that they have to run. Yeah. It's like. It's like a real. It's a real thing, and there's, like, federal laws around it, and you have to do it honestly. You have to do it by the book. And they have a game show that they have to manage while finding all of this content, too. And it's, like, completely different mindsets. Yeah. So if they have a problem, take it up with Steve Harvey, not us. 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