Hour 1 – Remembering Gene Hackman, Albert Breer

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1: Remembering Gene Hackman & NFL Insights

Release Date: February 27, 2025
Host: Dan Patrick
Guests: Paul Pabst, Albert Breer

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1. Honoring Gene Hackman’s Legacy

Dan Patrick opens the episode by commemorating the legendary actor Gene Hackman, who recently passed away at the age of 95. He reflects on Hackman's impactful roles, particularly highlighting his performance in the beloved sports movie Hoosiers.

[06:15] Dan Patrick: "When you think of Gene Hackman, at least when I think of Gene Hackman, I think of Hoosiers. It's not just a great sports movie; it's about life in a small town and the relationships that define us."

Patrick delves into Hackman's versatility, mentioning his roles in The French Connection, The Royal Tenenbaums, and The Replacements. He shares anecdotes from interviews with fellow actors like Kevin Costner, who admired Hackman's dedication to his craft.

[09:59] Paul Pabst: "One that I always forget about."

[10:13] Dan Patrick: "Todd, reach out to Keanu Reeves. We're on it."

The discussion underscores Hackman's ability to elevate any film he was part of, making him a cherished figure in both the sports and entertainment worlds.

2. NFL Rule Changes: Overtime and Digital Spotting

The conversation transitions to current developments in the NFL, specifically the proposed changes to overtime rules and the introduction of digital spotting for the football.

Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback, joins the dialogue to provide expert insights.

[23:50] Paul Pabst: "They want to formalize the rules from the regular season to the postseason, ensuring both teams have a fair chance in overtime."

Patrick expresses his support for digital spotting, citing the randomness he often observes during games.

[32:30] Dan Patrick: "I like the digital spotting of the football. It is so random when you see the official grab the ball and put it down after somebody's made a catch or a run."

Breer explains the phased approach the NFL is considering, starting with digital chains before moving to fully digital ball placement.

[34:27] Dan Patrick: "They got that from us."

The discussion also touches on potential benefits, such as increased accuracy and consistency in first-down determinations.

3. Brady and Stafford: Skiing Encounter and QB Market Dynamics

Patrick and Pabst delve into the intriguing story of Tom Brady and Matthew Stafford unexpectedly meeting on a skiing trip in Montana. They debate whether the encounter was planned or purely coincidental.

[24:46] Dan Patrick: "The Brady, Matthew Stafford story of skiing together in Montana, like, do you have the real story of this?"

[25:06] Paul Pabst: "It's a pretty high-end club in Montana that people on that level are at and spend time at. So the idea that they would unintentionally run into each other is not far-fetched."

The conversation shifts to Stafford's current contract situation with the Los Angeles Rams, highlighting the complexities of his market value and the challenges the Rams face in retaining him.

[27:01] Paul Pabst: "He’s on the books for $27 million in cash in 2025. And that number was lowered by $4 million because they borrowed that 4 million."

Patrick draws parallels to other NFL contract negotiations, emphasizing the difficulty teams face when player valuations exceed market expectations.

[29:07] Dan Patrick: "It feels like, pay him the money. If you want to try to make another run at the Super Bowl, giving two years, $100 million."

4. NFL Players Association and Team Facility Standards

The show examines the NFL Players Association's recent release of team grades based on how organizations treat players' families and facility standards. Pabst provides detailed analysis on the impact of these grades.

[34:14] Paul Pabst: "They've fallen on deaf ears. So, you know, they go public. And I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of these things improved."

They discuss specific cases, such as the Jacksonville Jaguars receiving an "F" grade and how public scrutiny has pressured teams to enhance their facilities and overall treatment of players.

[36:26] Paul Pabst: "If you're staying late at the facility as a player, they were charging you for dinner. Like, I don't know. But it's gone now."

Patrick underscores the significance of these improvements, linking them to better team performance and player satisfaction.

[35:42] Dan Patrick: "But that's when you're supposed to win. Then you take care of your players. That's proof that you win."

5. Audience Interaction and Polls

Throughout the episode, Dan and Paul engage with their audience through polls and phone calls, fostering an interactive environment. One notable poll question addressed during the first hour was:

Poll Question: How would you want calls in sports to be made: by people or all digital electronic?

[45:46] Dan Patrick: "You can only pick one."

This segment encourages listeners to share their preferences, stimulating discussion on the future of sports broadcasting.

6. Upcoming Segments and Guests

Patrick teases upcoming segments for the second hour, including an interview with Dean Blandino, the former head of NFL officials, to discuss the controversial "tush push" play.

[46:45] Paul Pabst: "Which I'm quite sure it's not."

[47:28] Dan Patrick: "We were wondering about the Hawkeye Albert beer, the tennis, you know, the digital spotting of the tennis ball."

The hosts hint at deeper dives into rule changes and their implications for the game, promising insightful discussions for listeners.

7. Closing Remarks and Final Highlights

As the first hour concludes, Patrick highlights notable plays of the day and shares interesting statistics, such as Duke's record eight conference wins by 25 points or more in a season.

[51:16] Dan Patrick: "For every down and my stat of the day, I'll take your advice. It won't be hard. Today Duke has eight conference wins by 25 points or more and that is an all-time record for an ACC season. That's your stat of the day."

He reiterates the show’s commitment to providing engaging and informative sports commentary, encouraging listeners to tune in for the next hour.

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Notable Quotes

• Dan Patrick at [06:15]: "Gene Hackman was wonderful in Hoosiers. It was about relationships, not just basketball."

• Paul Pabst at [34:14]: "They've fallen on deaf ears. So, you know, they go public. And I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of these things improved."

• Dan Patrick at [32:30]: "I like the digital spotting of the football. It is so random when you see the official grab the ball and put it down after somebody's made a catch or a run."

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Conclusion

In this hour, The Dan Patrick Show pays homage to Gene Hackman's illustrious career while delving into significant NFL developments, including rule changes and quarterback market dynamics. The hosts provide expert analysis, engaging discussions, and interactive segments, ensuring a comprehensive and entertaining listening experience for sports enthusiasts.

For more insights and detailed discussions, listen to the full episode on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or your preferred podcast platform.

Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Paul Pabst]

That's so tough.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

You know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon, go pick up a kid.

[Dan Patrick]

From school and right at night and after nine hours you come out with seven pages and then you're moving on. And actor and comedian Jack McBrayer.

[Paul Pabst]

The most important aspect is the collaboration with people that I like, I trust are talented. That has been the most amazing gift to me about this crazy business that we've chosen.

[Dan Patrick]

Meeting these people who have such diverse.

[Paul Pabst]

Talents and you're able to create something together.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

Time to get ready for the set of the day. It's a real doozy and it's happening today. Hope you're all ready because it's on the way. Hey, hey, hey, hey. And now here's the super duper jumping Hooper.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

Me too.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

We love your state of the day. Thank you, Pandora. There you go. If you would like to submit a stat of the day song, feel free. Send it to. Send it to the website. Send it to Tyler. Operator standing by. Actually sitting by, taking your phone calls. We have a poll question. Play of the day. Stat of the day as well. Coming up 877-3-DP show. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you. Downloading the app and our radio affiliates around the country. Gene Hackman passed away at the age of 95. He was living in New Mexico, I believe, Santa Fe. And when you think of Gene Hackman, at least when I think of Gene Hackman, I think of Normandale in the great sports movie Hoosiers. Actually, it's a great movie. It's, it's not just limited to a great sports movie. That's a. And a lot of times when we think of a sportsman like. Rudy is not a sports movie. Rudy is about the underdog who gets a chance. Hoosiers isn't a basketball movie, but it has basketball in it. It's about life in a small town. And I think sometimes we, we make the mistake of saying, oh, what a great sports movie. Bull Durham is not a baseball movie. It's really about a guy who's been sent to the Miners. He's going to help. It's about relationships. And, you know, but we use, you know, the focal point, the, the centerpiece is sports. I think a lot, a lot of times with these movies, or we think of that, but it's really more than that. And Hoosiers was that it was about relationships. And Gene Hackman was wonderful. And I spoke with, you know, the actor who played Jimmy Chitwood, Maris Valenus, and he had no acting experience. He wasn't even really a basketball player, but he played that role so well. And we'll bring back a portion of the interview I did with him a few years ago where he talked about all these actors, well, wannabe actors, people who weren't even actors, who just went and auditioned and they got a chance to meet Gene Hackman and the role that Hackman played for them, getting ready to be actors in the movie Hoosiers. But he passes away at the age of 95. Now, there's other movies. I go back when he was Popeye Doyle, the French Connection, and he had his little hat that he wore and he was going to catch. He was going to catch that drug dealer from France and never did. Yes, Seaton, a little more recent, but.

[Paul Pabst]

One that I always forget about.

[Dan Patrick]

But, man, was he great in the Royal Tenenbaums. Yes, he was. That was a phenomenal role. That was, that's a great movie. But, man, was he. He was so good in that. Yeah, there are so many of those movies that, I mean, that's, that's quite a. We talked to Kevin Costner Years ago in New York. And he talked about working with him on no Way Out Movie and just talked about Costner saying, I knew I had to up my game because I was going to be acting alongside Gene Hackman. But I still go back to the Replacements with Keanu Reeves the quarterback. And I don't know, like, look, Paul Newman was in Slap Shot, and that's what made Slapshot even more brilliant, because Paul Newman, legendary actor, was willing to play this down and out Minor league hockey coach and Gene Hackman in the Replacements. Like, I kept. Whenever I would see the movie, I'd go, how do they get Gene Hackman to me in the Replacement? I mean, it's. It, It's. It's not a legendary. Unbelievable. Oh, my gosh. Have you seen the Replacements? Great sports movies of all time. That's not going to be in the category, Alex on Jeopardy. But. And Keanu Reeves, I think, had done Speed. He had done the movie Speed and Matrix. So he had a little bit, you know, a little bit of a resume. But Gene Hackman. And all of a sudden, he's the coach and Replacements. And I go, okay, all right. Although Gene Hackman did think that his career could be over in Hoosiers, he acted alongside Dennis Hopper. And they did talk about it, you know, off screen, like, this could be the end of our careers because of that. But. But Dennis Hopper, legendary actor as well, plays the alcoholic father of one of the players in Hoosiers. But Gene Hackman, age 95 and feels like everybody has their favorite. He was what, Lex Luthor in Superman? Yeah, I never saw it. Never saw the movie. Didn't see the first one. I still haven't seen the first Star wars, so I'll get around to it one of these days. Yeah. Paulie, there's a story. I looked it up after you brought.

[Paul Pabst]

It up, that Keanu Reeves was in the Replacements. He was set to be in the Replacements, and they got interest from Gene Hackman and they were shocked, but he was pricey. So Keanu Reeves said, you can cut my salary if it gets Gene Hackman in the movie. I don't know if that's a true one. That's a legendary Hollywood story.

[Dan Patrick]

Todd, reach out to Keanu Reeves. We're on it. All right.

[Paul Pabst]

Did you see any of the Superman movies, by the way, with General Zod and there was one with Richard Pryor in that. There's a bunch of them.

[Dan Patrick]

No, none of the Superman. No, that was the. No that I said earlier that I hadn't seen. Well, I thought you say I didn't.

[Paul Pabst]

See the first one.

[Dan Patrick]

I thought maybe checked out one of the sequels or something. I. It would be odd to see 2 and 3 without seeing the first one. I'm guessing they're kind of standalone. Like, I'm not going to watch the original Rocky, but I'm going to watch 3 and 4. Are you kidding me? Yes. Eaton. Isn't it crazy speaking of the Superman.

[Paul Pabst]

Movies, that the first one.

[Dan Patrick]

The first Superman was George Reeve and then the next one was Christopher Reeves. Was that. Well, he was the. That was the TV series. George Reeves. George Reeve.

[Paul Pabst]

I think.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't think there's an S. Christopher Reeves. I think so. Yeah. Okay. I think George Reeve was in the TV show. George Reeves has an S. And then Christopher Reeve. Yes. Oh, that's what is. I have it backwards. Yeah. But yeah, he was. He was in the TV show.

[Paul Pabst]

And we also just referenced Keanu Reeves.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh.

[Paul Pabst]

In the same segment. And Dan Reeves was a consultant.

[Dan Patrick]

What?

[Paul Pabst]

Dan Reeves was a consultant on the Superman movie.

[Dan Patrick]

Had to get that line in. Thank you. We didn't hear it the first time, but you know.

[Paul Pabst]

Yes, Paul, it is interesting that some movies give you a level of immortality. There might be better movies, bigger movies that Gene Hackman was in. But with sports movies, those will be talked about on sports radio and TV forever. And Hoosiers is. It really is the one seed. And then it goes down from there. If you look at all those lists.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I mean, it depends. You know, people love Bull Durham, they love Rudy. Those are usually the top ones. But I loved. I love Tuziers because it's a small town. It's in Indiana. I could relate to a little bit of it. The scenery is so underrated. You know, when they do those bus trips when they're going to their games and just the landscape that you had. Now, granted it's not exciting because it's a lot of cornfields and Barnes, but I could relate to it. So, Gene Hackman passing away at the age of 95. Michael in Chicago. Hi, Mike. What's on your mind today?

[Paul Pabst]

Good morning, Dan.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning, Bandits. Just wanted you guys missed on the pre show introduction. You've missed a couple of great movies. Daddy did one of the best. Everything he did was the Unforgiven with Clint Eastwood. Yeah, yeah, he was. He was unbelievable in that as the mean sheriff in the town of Big Whiskey, if you remember. And he was good in the firm.

[Paul Pabst]

He played.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yes. Well, we couldn't do all of them, Michael. I mean, I mean the, the compliment is we couldn't get to all of that. But we are a sports show. That's why we brought up Hoosiers. But you're right, the Firm with Tom Cruise, he was very good in that. But we. We were taking a trip down memory lane. We just mentioned narrow margin yet Mississippi burning. Come on, guys.

[Paul Pabst]

An apology.

[Dan Patrick]

Come on, guys. So I'm going to apologize to all the Hackman fans. And of course, Mr. Hackman, rest in peace that if we didn't get all the movies mentioned where we can't do the entire show on Gene Hackman. Let's see. NFL considering overtime tweaks. We'll talk to Albert Breer about this. And maybe they're going to get rid of the chain gang. There's going to be a digital spotting of the football. So these are some of the things they're discussing at the combine. I've been saying all along about the digital spotting of the football. It is so random when you see the official grab the ball and put it down after somebody's made a catch or a run and you're going, really there. And it's just random. And I thought, can't we come up and we accept it? You're like. Like the Bills against the Chiefs in the playoffs. You're like, I think he got it. And all of a sudden you go, he didn't get it. Now, I do like the chain gang when they bring it out and then they stretch out the chain. I think we all like that. I don't know if we're going to have that. Maybe you do kind of a video component of that. If you're watching on tv, like, and then all of a sudden you see it's a first town and you get a, you know, whatever sound effect there.

[Paul Pabst]

You're saying, just recreate the digital marker and have the same anticipation.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, perfect. Just go first Price is Right. Ish. Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

You know.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that's. What is that?

[Paul Pabst]

That game, the mountain climb La. The mountain climber guy. And then he falls off the cliff.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, I thought it was this one. You spin the big thing. You spin. Yeah, yeah. It could be that, too. Okay. Yeah, it could be.

[Paul Pabst]

For the Showcase Showdown.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paul Pabst]

Try to get on that. You got to get close to it. You got two spins to get close to a dollar. Cliffhanger.

[Dan Patrick]

Is that the name of the hell of a segment? We're going to submit this for the Sports Emmy. Oh, yeah. This is. This is how we lose it. Instead of this how we do it, Todd. This how we lose it.

[Paul Pabst]

I saw what you did.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Montel, Jordan Patrick does it just like nobody. My Pistons won. The show's been good to me. The Pistons won again. They beat the Celt. You got to take them seriously. They're in the playoffs right now. I think they have the sixth best record in the East. They won eight in a row. It's young team, fun team. Those are always the ones that make me nervous. You know, when you get to the playoffs, you got to play against the team. May not know what the hell they're doing come playoff time, but sometimes they don't have pressure on them. Matthew Stafford, Tom Brady, ski buddies, question mark, question mark. We'll have that story for you. Coming up, another betting investigation. The University of New Orleans basketball team. There's probably five or six open investigations into college basketball game fixing. They got to do away with prop bets. Said that last year. Got to do away with that because if you're a kid at the University of New Orleans, you're not getting nil. Your team is terrible. And I'm, I'm just going to give you it a, hey, this might be something that played out. You're not going to the NBA. Who's going to notice? We're New Orleans. We're not any good. We've won four games. Well, so what? You know, I miss a shot, you know, the over under, we're playing University of Texas at Rio Grande. Nobody's going to know. Well, Vegas has to know. This is what Vegas does. They're the watchdogs because this is their business. And a lot of times you'll see these aren't big time programs because the big time programs, they're getting taken care of. It's when you play at these smaller schools that maybe you have the temptation to go, you know what, be nice to get a couple of hundred bucks, thousand bucks here, whatever it is. There's a lot of investigations going on, open investigations in this. I think there's been an open investigation into Temple basketball for a couple of years now and there's going to be more. But get rid of prop bets for college athletes. Certainly that. I don't think they'll do it with the pros, but at least the college athletes because they can be, they can be lured, they can be tempted because they don't have that money. You make it to the NBA, you're making money. College basketball, not the case. All right, phone calls, we'll get to those. We'll settle on a poll question. We'll head out to the combine. Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback will join us on a Thursday morning. We'll talk to him about the NFL considering a tweak to overtime and the digital spotting of the football and the other things going on, the ancillary things with the draft and possible trades and Tom Brady, Matthew Stafford seen in Montana skiing together. So we got a few things to talk about today. Yeah. Ski gate. Yeah. All right, we're back after this. On the Dan Patrick Show. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our [e-mail] and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. Hey, Steve Covino. And I'm Rich Davis. And together we're Covino and Rich on Fox Sports Radio. You can catch us weekdays from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. And of course, the iHeartRadio app. Why should you listen to Covino and Rich? We talk about everything, life, sports, relationships, what's going on in the world. We have a lot of fun talking about the stories behind the stories in the world of sports and pop culture, stories that, well, other shows don't seem to have the time to discuss. And the fact that we've been friends.

[Paul Pabst]

For the last 20 years and still.

[Dan Patrick]

Work together, I mean, that says something, right? So check us out. We like to get you involved, too. Take your phone calls, chop it up, as they say. I'd say the most interactive show on Fox Sports Radio, maybe the most interactive show on planet Earth. Be sure to check out Covino and Rich live on Fox Sports radio and the iHeartradio app from 5 to 7pm Eastern, 2 to 4 Pacific. And if you miss any of the live show, just search Covino and Rich wherever you get your podcast. And of course, on social media, that's Covino and Rich. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star weekend for a new podcast podcast called Goat Greatest of their era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.

[Paul Pabst]

Peja 5, Dirk Ford.

[Dan Patrick]

Paja is alone.

[Paul Pabst]

Okay, okay.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm mad him. I left him off my list, but I still like my list. You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Paul Pabst]

That's so tough.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why we have these conversations.

[Paul Pabst]

Absolutely love it.

[Dan Patrick]

Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.

[Paul Pabst]

When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with Anytime you're wide open like you might as well just count that and get on back on defense.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Paul Pabst]

It was a moment that should have broken me, but just because of how I was raised and my bullishness and arrogance to want to be great hardened me. It gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness.

[Dan Patrick]

We all have moments like this. Something happens that's supposed to break us, but it's in these moments that we discover what we're really made of. I promise you, if anyone knows this, it's me. I'm Ashlyn Harris. Very busy man. He's the Monday morning quarterback, but he works other days as well. Don't want you to think that he only works on Monday. He's Albert Breer joining us from the combine in Indianapolis. Thanks for joining us. Let me start with tweaking over time, what the NFL is proposing.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, so they want to formalize, or at least look at formalizing the rules. So it's the same from the regular season to. To the postseason. And as you know, you know, Dan, what they did to amend the rule in the postseason after, you know, the Super Bowl a few years back was to ensure that both teams would have a chance to have the ball in overtime. And, you know, whether or not they go to that or tweak it further, I know, you know, Troy Vincent had talked about reimagining the whole thing altogether. I don't think we'll go to like, you know, a college version of overtime. I do think they want to maintain some of the elements of normal game flow that you have in the way that overtime has been played in the NFL forever. But, you know, I, I think the general idea is to come up with a solution that would work for both the season and the postseason.

[Dan Patrick]

The Brady, Matthew Stafford story of skiing together in Montana, like, do you have the real story of this? Because there seems to be conflicting stories of this was something that was planned. And then there's another story that says that it was random that they ran into each other in Montana.

[Paul Pabst]

I mean, I can say that that is. And you may be familiar with the place, but that's a pretty high end club in Montana that people on that level, that level of celebrity are at and spend time at. And so the idea that they would unintentionally run into each other is not far fetched. I don't know exactly how that happened. I don't think that I'm not, you know, I don't know for sure. I haven't dug into it quite as much yet, but I don't think, I don't know that Brady invited Matthew Stafford there. Matthew Stafford I know, had been there in the past and so. So again, not that unusual that it would happen, but I do think it shows how Brady is really a part of what the Raiders are doing now. And Brady, you know, is an integral part of their, of, of their interview process of convincing head coaching and general manager candidates that it was a better job than it has been in recent years and that. And then ultimately, you know, they wind up hiring two guys that Brady's got a relationship with. Pete Carroll, of course, who he competed against, you know, all those years, and, and John Spytack, who he became pretty close with over the three years they spent together in Tampa. So I think the, the Raiders are serious, a serious suitor for, for Matthew.

[Dan Patrick]

Stafford, but this wasn't tampering, that if Brady. Okay, okay. Yeah, okay.

[Paul Pabst]

I mean, Stafford had permission now, and Stafford's had permission, Dan, for over three weeks now. Like, Stafford got permission to speak with other teams starting during super bowl week. So I believe it's either right at three weeks or just over three weeks that he's had permission to go out and speak to other teams.

[Dan Patrick]

What is the market for Matthew Stafford?

[Paul Pabst]

More than the Rams want to pay right now, I think is the best way to describe that. He, for those who don't know, he's. He's on the books for $27 million in cash in 2025. And that number was lowered by $4 million because they borrowed that 4 million and another million from 2026 to give them a $5 million raise in 2024, which isn't a raise at all if you're just borrowing from one year and giving it to another and putting it in another. Which is why I think everybody knew when they made that contract adjustment after a really tough six month negotiation that they were going to be back at the table again. And the way Stafford's looking at it is the, the quarterback market has materially changed. There are nine quarterbacks making over $50 million a year, and his deal at 40 million PER is 50% below the top of the market, which is Dak Prescott at 60 million. So the Rams basically said to Matthew, all right, like, well, if you go out and see what the market is and go out and see what you can get, and I don't think they use the word trade specifically with him, but once you kind of let him out of the building and let him go do that, go, go and see his worth, there's some risk involved. And the risk is that the way he sees his, his. His worth is, is going to be matched with the way other teams see his worth, even at 37 years old. And that's what happened. Matthew found teams, plural, that were willing to go to a number that was commensurate with where the market is at the position. And so how do you put that toothpaste back in the tube? Now, if you're the Rams, who. I mean, McVeigh still really likes Matthew. It's a good relationship. Matthew really likes living in Southern California. But the reality is they told him he was worth. They, they, they felt like he was worth X. He felt like he was worth. Yeah. Then he goes to the market, proves he's worth why. So now how do you reel that all back in? If you're the team, it's not an easy thing to do.

[Dan Patrick]

The Rams, wouldn't they learn from what happened with Saquon Barkley with the Giants, where you say, go out there, see if anybody wants to pay you that kind of money. Oh, wait a minute. Wait. You're leaving? Granted, you know, Stafford is 36, 37 years of age. But it feels, but, but I, I'm always interested when I are curious, when I hear an analyst go, you know, he wants to go to a place where he can win. Well, the Rams, that, that's a team that can win now. And they did win now, and they almost went to the NFC title game. You got Pukin, you got a great young defense. You got Pukinakua, you got Williams is your running back. I don't know. Just feels like, pay him the money. If you want to try to make another run at the Super bowl, giving two years, $100 million.

[Paul Pabst]

I agree. But I think part of this is timelines, too, right? Like, does the Rams timeline match up with Matthew Stafford's, which. Matthew Stafford's timeline is to win right now and to go all in right now. To win right now.

[Dan Patrick]

And you don't think the Rams timeline is to win right now. But.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, but here. Okay, so like, let's say you're the Rams and Matthew Stafford isn't. Is going year to year now, and you've dealt with this. You've had a really difficult negotiation. Now, do you want to. You're. You're in this spot where you're being asked to set another contractual precedent that maybe could be a problem for you down the line. And you're looking out at the market and you're saying, well, can we get Aaron Rodgers for a lot less than that and bring back the assets that would come in a Matthew Stafford deal? I mean, I, I know McVeigh really likes Jimmy Garoppolo. That's going to sound crazy to some people, but I think he believes he can win with Jimmy Garoppolo. So I think for the Rams, part of this is our timeline may not match up completely with Matthew's timeline. We've got a team here that we think can win for the next five or six years. We're going to have a lot of big contracts coming down the pike and you know, if we're in a year to year situation with Matthew Stafford, that's a pretty tough place to be based on what we would, what we, what we might need to spend to keep them. And so that's when you start to look at some of the alternatives. Like again, would it be Aaron Rodgers on a cheaper deal now? You got more cash to spend this offseason to surround Aaron Rodgers and, and then you get the assets, whether it's a first round pick, second round pick, whatever it is, you got the assets coming back to use too. So it's interesting from that perspective. And I mean, shoot, it's, I mean, think about like if the Giants were to get him now. You got Andrew Thomas coming back at left tackle. You have Malik Neighbors as your number one receiver. You have Tracy coming back as a young back. Maybe Cooper cup winds up there, maybe Travis Hunter winds up there. Like that team, I think could become a contender pretty fast.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter. The digital spotting of the football. I like it. I don't know if it's a done deal. I'm always curious when I watch a game, how random it sometimes seems when the official spots the ball. Yeah. Do you think we're, how far down the line do you think we are with the digital part of spotting a football?

[Paul Pabst]

I think we're getting closer. You know, I, this is something that they're not going to just, you know, do all in one fell swoop. You know, I think there's going to be some experimentation and I don't think they want to be completely reliant on technology that maybe they haven't been able to do wholesale checks and all that different stuff with. But I think it's coming, you know, and I think it makes sense. You know, it's, I, I, I always sort of think of like the tennis matches, right? Where, how long have they had, they had that, that technology At W, the U.S. open, wherever you know, where they got the ball and you can see where the ball hit, you know, like how long have they, they had that, Dan?

[Dan Patrick]

A decade, maybe longer.

[Paul Pabst]

Right. They've had it for so, but you.

[Dan Patrick]

Don'T have a lot of tennis players in the way of seeing where the ball hits or where it goes out. Where the NFL, there's a lot of confusion going on with tennis. It's a player, is the ball in or out? You know, you don't have a lot of bodies blocking that.

[Paul Pabst]

And I agree that like the technology is more, it's more complicated in football because like you said, the amount of bodies out there. But I mean, if it's been over a decade that they've had that in tennis, then wouldn't it stand to reason that they've made enough advances to make it on a.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, baseball. Baseball's, you know, going to implement this. The question is not if, but when. I just. And maybe you keep the chain gang as a backup in case the technology goes down during the game. But I, I don't know. I, I'm all for it just because I've seen how random the, you know, spotting of the football is.

[Paul Pabst]

It does feel that way, doesn't it? Like when you see a guy under a pile. I mean, there are definitely times for me where I'm wondering how the hell does he know where to spot that? You know what I mean? Like, there are those. And so it would, I think to some degree solve that.

[Dan Patrick]

Help me understand. The NFL Players association gives team grades. So the players vote on things from. Is your team friendly to the families of the football players? The, the food, nutrition, weight room. Does, does anything happen? I saw the Jacksonville Jaguars. Their grade for treating families of football players was an F. Like an F. Like I don't know what the treatment is, but how do you, does anything change with this? I think the Kansas City Chiefs got.

[Paul Pabst]

Like, like they're grounding, like they're grounding somebody's kids or something.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't, I don't know, given timeouts or bad seats or whatever. Not preferential parking. But does anything change when the players vote and it's an anonymous vote on your team?

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, they, I mean it actually has worked and you know, I think we all like gravitate to the low hanging fruit. I don't know if you remember, but there was like a, I can't remember what team it was, but there was a rap problem with one of the teams.

[Dan Patrick]

I think the Chiefs had not somebody who was ratting things out.

[Paul Pabst]

It was, I think the Chiefs had like folding chairs in their locker room instead of real chairs.

[Dan Patrick]

But that's when you're supposed to win. Then you take care of your players. That's proof that you win. And all you do is keep the money. You didn't upgrade your.

[Paul Pabst]

Was it the Cardinals that Were like, if you were staying late at the facility as a player, they were charging you for dinner. Like, Like, I don't know. Like, I. But, but here's the thing. It's like some of this stuff is ridiculous. And I do think, like, making it public has shamed some owners into making changes. You know what I mean? Like, and maybe that's the wrong word, but. But I think part of it has been. I mean, look, here, here's the deal. So these guys come from major college programs. Most of them do. Where they're in these facilities that are palaces.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. And.

[Paul Pabst]

And everything is done to make them feel like the most important people on campus. And it has to be that way because in college you're recruiting kids and you need to entice them to pick your school over another one. And now in the era of the transfer portal, you know, you have to convince the guy that he should stay when he can, up and leave whenever he wants. The NFL has never had to do that. You know, so I got a lot of cases, like, these guys go from big time college programs. They'll walk into the NFL and their NFL facility will be way worse than what they were than their workplace in college. And there's really. With the amount of money the NFL makes, there's no reason for it to be that way. I mean, these are supposed to be finely tuned athletes that are, you know, measuring everything that goes into their body and spending every waking moment trying to put themselves in position to play at the highest level on Sunday. And so, like, I think there was this feeling among NFL players in general, based on what a lot of those guys had as college players, that NFL teams were falling way, way, way short of where they should be. And I think there had been complaints in the past and they'd fallen on deaf ears. So, you know, they go public. And I don't think it's a coincidence that a lot of these things improved. I mean, the Patriots, who've gotten killed the last couple years in this, are opening a new facility, I think in part because of the bad PR they've taken. You know, the Chiefs replace those chairs. The Cardinals don't charge for dinner anymore, which I, you know, I don't think anybody charges for dinner anymore, which is like a good thing. You know, it's funny that somebody did in the first place, but it took care of the problem on the back end, you know, So I think that's the idea here. And I do think to some degree it's working. Maybe not with everybody, but I'd say the great majority of of owners who've been publicly embarrassed by these report cards over the last three years have, have done something about it.

[Dan Patrick]

On the back end, Mel Kuiper, in his latest mock draft, has Abdul Carter, Penn State, going number one. Now comes word that could need surgery. I know he had a bad shoulder. Now they're talking about foot surgery here.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah. So, like, I, I think he's going to be okay now, and I don't think it's going to affect his draft stock. Like, I still think he's likely, he's probably the leader in the clubhouse to be the number one overall pick. I think a lot of people would tell you he's the best player in the draft. The easiest translation in the draft, I would say Travis Hunter might be the best player, but this is the guy who, you look at him and you know exactly what he's going to be in the pros. But, you know, it's a foot. And those can be problematic. Like, what is. I think it's foot, back and hamstring. Right. Are the ones that, like, you just. You have to be. Yeah, yeah. You have to, you know, do your diligence on it, have your doctors look at it, and then if you draft them, something, something you have to keep an eye on. So I don't think it'll affect his draft stock, but I don't want to tell you that, you know, a foot injury, you know, at a young age for an athlete like this is. Is nothing. It's not nothing.

[Dan Patrick]

Thanks for joining us. I know you got a busy schedule, so we appreciate you carving out some time. Thank you. Albert, you got Dan. That's Albert Brear, the Monday morning quarterback, senior NFL reporter. We'll take a break. We will give you our poll question for the first hour, but up next, play of the day. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio Apple. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called Goat Greatest of Their Era. And we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000s.

[Paul Pabst]

Peja 5. Dirk Ford.

[Dan Patrick]

Peja is elite.

[Paul Pabst]

Okay, okay.

[Dan Patrick]

I mad him. I left him off my list, but I still like my list. You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Paul Pabst]

That's so tough.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely.

[Paul Pabst]

Love it.

[Dan Patrick]

Steph talked about what separates the truly elite NBA shooters.

[Paul Pabst]

When you have a scouting report and you're on the list as not just a shooter, but we have specific rules for how we guard you. There's a fear factor that's associated with it. Anytime you're wide open like you might as well just count that and get back on defense.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to Goat G O T e greatest of their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. I'm Mark Seal. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us.

[Paul Pabst]

To shoot that pict. Leave the Gun Take the Cannoli is.

[Dan Patrick]

Based on my co host Mark's best.

[Paul Pabst]

Selling book of the same title. And on this show we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth.

[Dan Patrick]

From start to finish, this is really the first interview I've done in bed.

[Paul Pabst]

We sift through innumerable accounts. 35 pages isn't very much, many of them conflicting. That's nonsense. There were 60 pages and try to get to the truth of what really happened and they said we're finished, this is over.

[Dan Patrick]

Not only is not going to work.

[Paul Pabst]

They get rid of those guys.

[Dan Patrick]

It's just that Leave the Gun, Take.

[Paul Pabst]

The Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Coppola, Robert Evans, James Caan, Talia Shire and many others. Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun.

[Dan Patrick]

Take the Cannoli on the iHeartRadio app.

[Paul Pabst]

Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to my Legacy.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

With my wife Andrea Waters King and our dear friends Mark and Craig Kilburger, we explore the personal journeys that shape extraordinary lives.

[Dan Patrick]

Each week we'll sit down with inspiring figures like David Oyelowo, Mel Robbins, Martin Sheen, Dr. Sanjay Gupta and Billy Porter. And their plus one, their ride or die as they share stories never heard before about their remarkable journey.

[Paul Pabst]

Listen to my legacy on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. This is my legacy.

[Dan Patrick]

Hey, this is Mel Reed, LPGA Tour winner and six time lady Drew Bean tour winner and Keira K. Dixon, NBC.

[Paul Pabst]

Sports reporter and host.

[Dan Patrick]

You forgot to say warmer.

[Paul Pabst]

Miss America, by the way.

[Dan Patrick]

And we've got a new podcast, Quiet please. With Mel and Kira, we are bringing.

[Paul Pabst]

You spicy takes on sports and pop.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

To make golf their superpower.

[Dan Patrick]

Or just people we like, plus tales from the road and everything in between. By the way, golf isn't just for the dads, Brads and chads. Yeah, it's actually life's cheat code.

[Paul Pabst]

And we're not going to be quiet about it on or off the course. We're bringing on some of our friends like Michelle We, Heather McMahon, Amanda Balliotis.

[Dan Patrick]

So if you want to keep up with us, and here is yap, tune into our new podcast, Listen to Quiet.

[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

App, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Presented by Capital One, founding partner of iHeart Women's Sports.

[Paul Pabst]

It was a moment that should have broken me, but just because of how I was raised and my bullishness and arrogance to want to be great hardened me. It gave me a platform to be so singularly focused on greatness.

[Dan Patrick]

We all have moments like this. Something happens that's supposed to break us, but it's in these moments that we discover what we're really made of. I promise you, if anyone knows this, it's me. I'm Ashlyn Harris.

[Paul Pabst]

Oh, my God.

[Dan Patrick]

The play of the day. This is the play of the day.

[Paul Pabst]

Check this out. Gotta go. Gillespie for three. Call or no.

[Dan Patrick]

Hollywood looks the clock.

[Paul Pabst]

Half Gore for the win.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh, my goodness.

[Paul Pabst]

Holloman from Afghur to win it on the road.

[Dan Patrick]

That's courtesy of the Big Ten Network. That was Michigan State's first game winning buzzer beater since the second round of the 2010 NCAA tournament against Maryland. That's your play of the day. That's a coincidence, isn't it, Todd? That's a major coincidence. Is it ironic?

[Paul Pabst]

It's always tricky. I think it's more of a coincidence.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know what's ironic anymore after Alanis Moore said isn't it ironic? And then it wasn't ironic. So is it ironic that it wasn't ironic?

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, maybe she was like.

[Dan Patrick]

Like 4D chess kind of thing. Like she gave all examples, examples of.

[Paul Pabst]

Crappy luck, not irony.

[Dan Patrick]

And that was ironic. Play of the Day brought to you by Panini. Hottest rookies, biggest superstars, the all time greats. The only place to collect them all. Panini trading cards, official trading cards of the DP show. Instant classics, autograph cards, memorabilia, cards, rare inserts. Starter. Continue your collection now. Panini America.net what's the poll question for the first hour of the program? Well, we have one poll question.

[Paul Pabst]

And then we're kind of doing things.

[Dan Patrick]

A little differently, too. Okay, we have a poll question up there right now. That is how would you want calls in sports being made by people or all digital electronic. Yes. Can only pick one. You can only pick one. All right. Todd reminded me that I was probably not, I was not accurate in what I was saying about digitally spotting the football. It's for the first down markers. Correct. So it's not. They're going to have somebody, something that will digitally say, oh, that's where the ball should be spotted.

[Paul Pabst]

As of this moment, the human element.

[Dan Patrick]

Is still involved with put with spotting it. I don't know if they're going to.

[Paul Pabst]

You know, still discuss that, but basically they're going to use the technology to determine whether something was a first down or not.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Dean Blandino, the former head of officials, will join us coming up next hour. Yes. Which is funny because then that implies that the problem was really the chains.

[Paul Pabst]

Which I'm quite sure it's not.

[Dan Patrick]

It's really where the ball is spotted is probably the most important thing because three inches this way, three inches that way, that's really the whole. Yeah, the whole game. See, I thought they're going to have something digitally to help us spot the ball.

[Paul Pabst]

These chains are never accurate.

[Dan Patrick]

I know those poor guys over there getting, you know, 750 an hour and they get to hold a chain and then they could get blasted by a football player going out of bounds.

[Paul Pabst]

Yeah, Paulie, according to this article I'm reading, the first step is the digital chains. And then the next step down the road is the spot and the ball of some way being digitally spotted. So one has to happen first and then the other one happens.

[Dan Patrick]

We were wondering about the Hawkeye Albert beer, the tennis, you know, the digital spotting of the tennis ball. It first appeared in 2005 in a tournament in London. And that's the first time we had that. Antennas, but antennas. You know, there's not bodies all over the place. It's either in or out. In or out.

[Paul Pabst]

They got that from us.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, they did. Time to play. In or out. All right, so we have our poll question today. We get some phone calls here as well. Zach in Knoxville leads us off. Good morning, Zach. What's on your mind today? ADP.

[Paul Pabst]

Thanks for taking my call.

[Dan Patrick]

1 just want to say if. If those are the stats of the day that made it on air, then I feel bad for Tyler for having.

[Paul Pabst]

To listen to the ones that aren't.

[Dan Patrick]

Going to make it. But anyways, yesterday when you had Ryan Leaf on for that brief moment, y'all got into whether Dion would have any pull and where Shador would end up.

[Paul Pabst]

And I thought it was kind of.

[Dan Patrick]

Interesting, his comment of, he's not.

[Paul Pabst]

They're not the Mannings or he's not Archie.

[Dan Patrick]

And I just wonder, does the rest of the league feel that way? And how do you think that will play out with Dion's influence on where Shador ends up? Well, he did tell me that at the Super Bowl. He said he's already reached out to teams, so he's probably going to try to influence teams, steer his, you know, his son to a certain team or away from a certain team. But I don't know. I just. I was kind of surprised that Dion admitted that, that he's already reached out to a couple of teams at the top of the draft. Now, what kind of influence? If Dion's calling me and he says, hey, don't draft him. He's not coming here. Well, where's he going? He's not going to Europe. Oh, he, you know, whatever. Whatever it's going to be, oh, he'll be a problem, or we'll make it a problem. I. I don't know if Dion is going to get to that level, but it feels like there's certain teams or a certain team he wants his son to play for. What does he want his son to go to the Cleveland Browns? Does he not want his son to go to the Cleveland Browns? Does he want him to go to the Giants? Does he want him to go to the Raiders? I think we're going to. We'll eventually find out, first of all, where he's going or who wants him and if teams will, you know, be truthful and say, look, Dion said he knocked. He doesn't want to play for you. It's hard to keep a secret, certainly with the NFL, because there's so many reporters, insiders. But if there is something there, sort of nefarious, then maybe it'll surface. Let's see. And by the way, I purposely didn't ask Albert Beer about the tush push. Like, I had to take one hour off from the tush. I am tushed out. Totally. I am so tushed out. And as my wife will say, you have no tush. I know.

[Paul Pabst]

Can we push you to know again?

[Dan Patrick]

No. Next hour, I'll. I'll ask Dean Blandino, head of the officials. Former head of the officials. We'll talk about the tush Bush. Andrew in Washington. Hi, Andrew. Good morning, Dan.

[Paul Pabst]

And Dan, it's I just had a.

[Dan Patrick]

Real quick thing on Gene finish in the NFL and maybe it's out of the day, but I just remember it most for agent Rupert Anderson in Mississippi Burning.

[Paul Pabst]

I just remember that movie putting into.

[Dan Patrick]

Light the actual situations of small town southern cities throughout the throughout that time and so it really brought it to life for me. But I remember him in that role. Most NFL I don't know why they just won't go to electronic, you know, marking without the chain gangs. I don't know if they think it's.

[Paul Pabst]

Fun like you said, just kind of.

[Dan Patrick]

Marching out there and doing that. Why are they only using it for first downs if they have the full technology to do it? For every down and my stat of the day, I'll take your advice. It won't be hard. Today Duke has eight conference wins by 25 points or more and that is an all time record for an ACC season. That's your stat of the day. It's just a, it's just a Saturday.

[Paul Pabst]

Hey yo, it's just a Saturday. It's just a, it's just a Saturday.

[Dan Patrick]

No video clip. Just a quick trip down memory lane. Yes, Paul?

[Paul Pabst]

Does it sound like something Usher may put together a little intro for a song?

[Dan Patrick]

No, it does not. That doesn't sound anything like anything elseher would ever even be associated with. Really. A little intro. We'd like to apologize. Yes, Mr. Usher, I'm sorry, Paul's comments do not speak for the group.

[Paul Pabst]

Retracted. Retracted.

[Dan Patrick]

Hour two on the way, Ms. Thursday, get some more of your phone calls. We'll talk to Dean Blandino, former head of NFL officials. Ah, we're back after this. Make some noise for the greatest shooter of all time, Steph Curry. We went live from All Star Weekend for a new podcast called the Greatest of Their Era and we ranked our top five shooters from the 2000 PAJA 5.

[Paul Pabst]

Dirk Ford.

[Dan Patrick]

PAJA is a link. You won't believe who Steph left off his list.

[Paul Pabst]

That's so tough.

[Dan Patrick]

That's why we have these conversations. Yes, absolutely.

[Paul Pabst]

Love it.

[Dan Patrick]

Listen to Go G O T e Greatest of Their era on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. Hey, it's Alec Baldwin. This past season on my podcast, here's the thing. I spoke with more actors, musicians, policymakers, and so many other fascinating people like writer and actor Dan Aykroyd. I love writing more than anything.

[Paul Pabst]

You're left alone, you know, you do three hours in the morning, you write three hours in the afternoon. Go pick up a kid from school.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Paul Pabst]

Hey everybody, what's up? This is questlove, and every year we do special programming in February for Black History Month. Now it's especially important this year as we gear up for some new conversations. So the team and I compiled some clips from the show that are worth revisiting. In Part one of the celebration of Black History Month, we're listening back to Moments With Chris Rock, Solange Prodigy, Ben Vereen, Jennifer Lewis, Angela Rye and Gina Yashore. Listen to Questlove supreme on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.

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[Paul Pabst]

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[Dan Patrick]

Show'S correspondence and contributors. And with extended interviews and exclusive weekly headline roundups, this podcast gives you content you want you won't find anywhere else. Ready to laugh and stay informed? Listen on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Are you hungry? Colleen Witt here. And Eating While Broke is back for Season four every Thursday on the Black Effect Podcast Network. This season we've got a legendary lineup serving up broke dishes and even better stories. On the menu. We have Tony Baker, Nick Cannon, Melissa Ford, October London and Carri Harper Howey turning Big Macs into Big moves. Catch Eating While Broke every Thursday on the Black Effect podcast network. IHeartRadio app Apple podcast Wherever you get your favorite shows, come hungry for season four.