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You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. It's hour one on this Tuesday. Dan and the Danets Dan Patrick Show. Fritz he's here. Seaton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and of course, the back room guys. Reggie Miller a little bit later on and Ross Tucker will stop by phone calls always welcome. 877-3DP show audience, you listeners did a wonderful job yesterday. The callers are always right. As Fritz, he had to pay off a bet with Seaton. No matter what you said to Fritzi, he had to agree with you. And we had some great moments. 8773-DP-SHoSH Email address dpdanpatrick.com Twitter handle @dpshow Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network or listening on our great radio affiliates around the country, we still have some head coaching openings. Bills, Browns, Cardinals, Raiders. And I'm guessing that probably some coordinators who are in the super bowl might be in line for one or two of these jobs. We'll come up with a play of the day poll question and stat of the day, as always, forthcoming. You know, the Pro bowl used to mean something. You know, down through the years you were a Pro bowl player. That was a big deal. Maybe not as much now because you get a lot of guys who don't want to play in the game. And being a Pro bowl player helped out your hall of Fame resume. But there's not a Pro bowl game anymore. But there was value being a Pro Bowler. Now you want to be an All Pro. But if you're a Pro bowl player, okay, it looks good on your resume. And that does factor in for a Hall of hall of Fame resume. But between injuries, players opting out, super bowl participants skipping the trip, the Pro Bowls turned into a game of musical players because you got to fill the rosters here. Now, once again, there's no game, there's activities. You're a Pro bowl participant in activities. You know, Tyler Huntley got in a couple of years ago, Mitchell Trubisky, and now Shador Sanders is in the record books as a Pro bowl quarterback. Okay, I don't have a problem if Shador Sanders is in the Pro bowl activities category here. These are games that are being played. This is a business decision by Peyton and Eli Manning. Why not put him in there? People watch. They'll watch Shador Sanders. I hope the NFL takes me up on what I've, I've, I've put in front of them for years. Now. If you're going to do activities, have a Pro bowl roster and there's only one quarterback in the NFC and one in the afc, that's it. But you do get that Designation on your resume, Pro bowl quarterback. Or if you want to do two quarterbacks or you do two players at each position, they're not going to be playing in a game. But you get that resume designation that you were a Pro bowl quarterback if you want to do it. But why not just have a lineup for the NFC and afc? They're not playing in a game, but you give them that designation. Because everybody else, you're a participant in Pro bowl activities and even put an asterisk by those Pro bowl participant. But Shador Sanders, you'll bring eyes to it. You know, I'm not tuning in to see somebody be great. It's more of, you know, some fun activities that Peyton and Eli have. Okay, tug of war. I'm sorry. It's. It's not like I go, man, he is a great tug of war guy. That's a guy I want. Tug of war. Yeah.

Paulie (6:04)

Paulie, this is such an easy fix that you've been saying this, we've been saying this for years. There's the Pro Bowl. Honor your name to the Pro bowl in late December and it goes on your resume. And then the Pro bowl games are an activity. And then you can participate or not participate, but like you said, Tyler Hundley, it's in Football Reference, he's listed as a Pro bowler. He was 2 for 2 as a starter. 2 and 2. And as a starter, he had two touchdowns and made the Pro Bowl.

Dan Patrick (6:29)

Yeah. You have to fill out the roster. That's all this is. And it used to mean something, and I know back in my day it meant something. But then you started to get quarterbacks who opted out. I remember Dan Marino said, you know, I don't want to play. Played enough. But you do want that designation that you are a Pro bowl quarterback. Yes. Seaton.

Seaton (6:49)

Yeah, I think part of the thing that maybe we're having a hard time with is that these types of all star games that we're always trying to fix every three months have outlived their usefulness. They don't. They don't mean anything anymore because they don't mean anything because they used to be special. To see what would happen if these players all played together. Well, now there's free agency in every sport. We see that all the time. There is no uniqueness to it.

Dan Patrick (7:14)

Well, there is no game anymore, but it's just, you're designated as a Pro. Chadore Sanders, 15 years from now, we can look back at his resume and go, man, he made a Pro Bowl. And I think that's what Bothers people of he made a Pro bowl and then this guy made X number of Pro Bowls. Vince Young made two Pro Bowls as an alternate.

Seaton (7:35)

Yes, but I think the problem is, is that we focus on the Pro bowl and not all Pro. If we did more to recognize how special the all Pro designation was, nobody would care about the fan vote.

Dan Patrick (7:47)

Well, we don't have an all Pro game, but we do have Pro bowl game. Now we have Pro bowl games, activities. Therefore we speak about it more because, oh, somebody got added to a roster. Somebody's not going to be able. You know, Drake May can't play. He's not taking part in the Pro bowl festivities.

Seaton (8:05)

Right. Because having an actual, an actually valuable player participate in these events is crazy.

Dan Patrick (8:11)

Yes.

Seaton (8:11)

Why in the world would we risk those knees for these events?

Dan Patrick (8:15)

Stat of the day, brought to you by Panini America. The official trading cards of this program. First hour brought to you by Tire Rack. They've been doing it for over 40 years, helping you find the right tires for how and what and where you drive ship fast and free. Backed by free road hazard protection. Convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. But when I saw that Shador was going to be added and I thought, okay, they're going to bring in some eyeballs. And this is a TV show. Let's not kid anybody. It's not a game as much as it is a TV show. You want your biggest personalities. You know what name recognition in there. And Shador Sanders certainly has that. All right, you see what's poll question going to be? First hour of the program.

Seaton (9:01)

First hour poll question, which wins more games, gut feeling or analytics?

Dan Patrick (9:05)

Oh, no. Okay. We had Mark Schlerith on yesterday, former NFL offensive lineman and he really doesn't like analytics. This is what he had to say from yesterday's show.

Todd Fritz (9:20)

Yeah, Dan, you know, it's really funny.

Dan Patrick (9:22)

I get into arguments because I hate analytics. I hate all analytics people. I don't like nerds. And, and I always get into this with, with guys. You like the two point conversion play and we got to go for it on fourth down and all this stuff. And you know, you get the sample size of data. But hey, man, if I haven't blocked your defensive front all day long, right, that data changes. If my guards can't handle your three techniques, if my tackles can't handle your defensive ends, then we need to change like, like that. Math doesn't work. Math has never made a tackle. Math has never blocked anybody. Math has never done any of that stuff. Okay. We posted this yesterday on social media. Got a lot of reaction and got a lot of reaction from the people who actually are the analytic nerds. According to Mark Schlerith, Michael Wilbond's been banging the drum against analytics for a long, long, long time. I understand it. I mentioned this before. Back in the late 60s, my father, working in computer science, came up with probability. It wasn't called analytics, but he was working at the University of Dayton, and he was trying to help. The coach at the time turns out to be Sean McVeigh's grandfather, and he's trying to give him information of what. What happens when this team has the ball here in this situation. So probability. And he was feeding information into a computer, giving out the probabilities to the head coach. So it's been around a long, long, long time. It's just we started to call it analytics, and I think that bothered people. Almost as if, oh, you're better than us. Oh, you're smarter than us. Oh, you went to Harvard. Oh, you went to Stanford. Well, they're just looking at the game. Same with baseball. Same with basketball. The analytics say shoot the three. The math says shoot the three. Baseball, go for a home run. Okay? There's data. And people have spent a lot of time, years and years and years to come up with the data. Now, do I side towards gut? Yes, because gut is in the moment. If I go into a game and I go, hey, if we get fourth and four inside the 10, we're going for it. Okay? And I do believe, you know, with Sean Payton going forward on fourth down and in the moment, I said, just kick the field goal. He's getting a lot of blame because of that. But I think the analytics show, from what I was told, the analytics say, go for the field goal. There he went against analytics. So I don't know. And once again, I haven't followed it that closely with the analytics, but there were a couple of reports that said Sean Payton went against the analytics, kick the field goal, but in the moment, backup quarterback. And then you had analytics experts who said, wait, you don't think we factor in that it's a backup quarterback or the weather or. I don't know how it changes when a snowstorm comes in. How do you change the analytics to give that information to the teams in real time? So now all of a sudden, I got a backup quarterback. I got an offensive line that can't protect my quarterback. The Patriots defense is a whole lot better than we thought. I got snow, I got Wind. And you're going to tell me in real time that you're going to come up with analytics there. I understand. Going into the game, hey, we're not going to go towards Christian Gonzalez, third and long. We're not going in his direction. Okay, but what if he's, you know, got a banged up ankle or something? Or maybe he's limping a little bit. Maybe my offensive line isn't as good as we thought. Against their defensive line, we don't have the time to be able to throw deep. Like, it just feels like there's so much. It's a fluid topic. And I. I think that we get. We kind of get bogged down on. Oh, analytics says, here, look, let me look at my sheet. I can look at that sheet. It's like when, you know, Tony La Russa did this, you know, the smartest man in baseball history, or so I'm told, hey, we got this matchup. The analytics say this. All I know is their managers who get fired because of analytics, you know, go back to Tommy Lasorda with a gut instinct to put Kurt Gibson against Dennis Eckersley that analytics would have said, are you crazy? But Tommy brought up Kurt Gibson against one of the greatest closers of all time, and he hits a home run. So there's a gut feeling that should be attached to this. I understand analytics and I'm fine with it. I just don't like when I see a coach look at a piece of paper and go, we're going for it. Yes, he.

Seaton (14:08)

Part of the reason that I think people don't like analytics is because we only notice them when it doesn't work. And the reason that we don't focus on it when it does work is because coaches take credit for the brilliance. No coach has ever been like, hey, Coach Gutsy called again. Yeah, you know, I just. Well, I looked at the sheet and that's what it told me to do. So that's why we did it. No coach is ever going to say that. Instead, they're going to give you 45 seconds on what a genius they are for. You're right, I did do that. Even though they really looked at the sheet and it said, go for it or don't go for it. But when it's wrong, it's like, well, I mean, the analytics did it, so.

Dan Patrick (14:41)

Yeah, well, that's when I dialed up something. You know, when you. When you go with your gut feeling. We dialed. Analytics is always really.

Seaton (14:49)

Because it's gotten you to the AFC title game so far. The analytics but no, you can't do whatever.

Paulie (14:55)

Yeah, Paulie, going Back to the 4th and 1, we did this post yesterday and a few different people who worked in analytics broke it down and they said it was a medium recommendation, not a heavy recommendation to go for the field goal. They said it was really close. The odds of you making the fourth down were like 64%. Your odds of you converting the field goal was 95%. But then your win rate when you convert is. And there's a lot of details, but they said it was a mild or medium recommendation, which means is almost a coin flip. Now it wasn't like you must do this. The analysts say you must do this. It was more like just over 50%. You should do this.

Todd Fritz (15:32)

Yes, Todd, they have other responsibilities. But to me, a head coach or manager largely has to do with decision making or decision making abilities. So why don't we just have some kind of machine like we're going to do with balls and strikes. If a coach is just going to rely on what they spit out in a computer and that's a big role of a coach or manager to make decisions and you're basing it on non human things, then what's the point? And just have some.

Dan Patrick (15:54)

They called a timeout. John Payton called a timeout to talk about it. Here's the thing. I don't know. And maybe somebody in analytics can help us. And that is if you have data on a fourth and one inside the 15, doesn't the defense have the data that you have on 4th and 1 inside the 15? Right. Don't they cancel each other out? And then it comes down to gut. But I, I'm all for exploring these things. I'm not a math guy, my father was. But I, I still think there's value to it. I think that sometimes it can, it can be we hold on too tight to it. With the analytics, I think you got to coach a game and in that moment Sean Payton should have kicked the field goal. I don't care what analytics said. Go. I would have called a better play is what I would have called. That was a terrible call because I don't want my, my quarterback rolling right. So now I've cut off half the field. The Patriots obviously knew what was coming. They got two defenders who came in scot free and it was going to be intercepted. Almost intercepted. So aside from the two defenders who came in and the DB who was going to intercept it, I guess it was a good call. Yes.

Todd Fritz (17:21)

Todd, at the risk of sounding ignorant, do these coaches in their ears in the limited time that they have, unless they call timeout on every play, they're getting some feedback where it's just select situations about going for two or kicking a field goal. That's a lot of information. While you're trying to manage everything else to be told.

Dan Patrick (17:37)

Well, no, you're not. Analytics is part of your play sheet. Analytics will. Will give you all of that information that you, you have it before the game. It's not like in the moment because even then you're discussing this and you can say, what's the analytics say? I would say to my team, what's the analytics? And then they would say, all right. And you look at your flip chart.

Todd Fritz (17:59)

But even that doesn't account for every situation. Someone gets hurt during a game or weather changes. You know, you can only do so much preparation with all the highlighted different colors that you see them holding and blocking their lips with.

Dan Patrick (18:11)

Hey, it's your coach who made the stupid call.

Todd Fritz (18:13)

I know, believe me. Then they lose by three points. Of course, you could do the math on that.

Dan Patrick (18:22)

Analytics. Paulie, check and see if there's a woman named Anna Lytics all over it. Yeah, just, you know, she's probably get having people. Man, I hate analytics. What did I do to you? Very cerebral. All right, we'll settle on a poll question here. Mike McCarthy will be sworn in as this Steelers next head coach. And we will play the Mike McCarthy cliche game as well. Now, I think the press conference is going to be at 2 o', clock, so we're just going to have to guess what we think his first cliche will be. And Seaton said that he wanted to go first. We'll take a break. Yeah, he won the coin toss. Yeah, he won the coin toss. He'll get the first cliche out of Mike McCarthy's mouth. We'll take a break. We're just getting started. We're back after this Dan Patrick Show. Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9:00am Eastern, 6:00am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in the iHeartRadio app. Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben. Ma would mean a lot to have you join us on our weekly auditory journey. You're asking, what in God's name is the fifth hour? I'll tell you, it's a spin off of the Ben Mather Show, a cult hit overnights on fsr. Why should you listen? Picture, if you will, a world where.

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What if mind control is real?

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If you could control the behavior of anybody around you, what kind of life would you have?

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Can you hypnotically persuade someone to buy a car?

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Gonna become overwhelmed with such good feelings.

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Can you hypnotize someone into sleeping with you?

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I gave her some suggestions to be sexually aroused.

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It's about engineering consciousness.

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This show contains information subject to but not limited to personal takes, rumors, not so accurate stats, and plenty more. What's up, man? This your boy, Nav Green from the Broken Play podcast. Look, it's the end of the season. The playoffs are here. But guess what? It ain't the end of your season. You can always tune in with Broken Play podcast with Nav Green on the Black Effect Podcast Network. Another team who ain't going to the playoff? The Chiefs. What's a wrap? It's time to rebuild. Who your MVP right now. Then Drake May up there.

Dan Patrick (21:51)

Josh Allen up there still. Oh, my boy Matthew Stafford.

Narrator/Promoter (21:56)

Where did Nicks at?

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He ain't too far behind.

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He did all this stalking.

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What Matthew Stafford is doing, statistically, bro, is crazy.

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Bro, you know I ain't no Josh Allen fan, but Matthew Stafford got better weapon. Caleb Williams.

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And what conversation?

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Dan Patrick (23:21)

Settle on a poll question here. For the first hour, Mike McCarthy will be sworn in as the next head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers. Coming up a little bit later on today, we will play the Mike McCarthy cliche game. I didn't even know it was a game until Seaton came in and he goes, I know the first cliche that Mike McCarthy is going to utter when he gets in front of the media today. We'll have that for you coming up here in a moment. I don't know if anybody else has cliches because I didn't think of it. I'm not well versed on Mike McCarthy cliches.

Seaton (23:54)

That's why we're trying to figure out the first, not if, but which one of these will be the first. You can't be in football this long without being a hardcore cliche guy.

Dan Patrick (24:03)

Now isn't he a football? Like he, he's not a football. He's a. He's a football guy.

Seaton (24:08)

He's a football guy.

Dan Patrick (24:08)

Football guy. Tom Pelissero, NFL Insider for the NFL Network, was on the Rich Eisen show and he likes that the Steelers have hired Mike McCarthy. There's a lot of different reasons, Rich the Mike McCarthy is the new Steelers head coach, but I'm going to point out one that has not been talked about enough. The Steelers have ranked 23rd or worse in yards per game on offense eight years in a row. Eight years in a row. They have had a bottom third offense and I know that the Steelers dynasties have been built around playing really good defense and being aggressive on that side of the ball. But you do need to be able to score points. You need to be able to do that in the NFL. And if you look at Mike McCarthy's track record, everywhere he's been, Bill Cower said this on CBS the other day, he's elevated offenses, he has elevated quarterbacks at various different stages in their career. Yeah, he was very passionate. I was watching the NFL insiders on NFL Network last night and he went even further talking about Mike McCarthy and thinks it's the right hire. I know that we look at the Steelers blueprint, it's well, you got to get the young coordinator, defensive coordinator in his mid to late 30s and he's going to be there for 20 years. Well, the Steelers have to change things up a little bit and the offense has to get into the modern era. And it feels like that they're always dragging behind the defense is dragging that offense into a playoff berth. I don't know if Aaron Rodgers is going to come back. By all accounts, felt like he was really well liked by his Steeler teammates. His relationship with Mike McCarthy, maybe that's on the mend. Maybe Mike goes, I can have Aaron as a band aid quarterback. They still have to find another one eventually. I don't know if Will Howard at Ohio State can play as an NFL starting quarterback, but you might have something there. You already know what you have with Mason Rudolph, but if you bring in or bring back Aaron Rodgers, it's not the worst case scenario. You just need to upgrade your offensive style, philosophy and you got to be. It used to be if you got a top 15 defense to go along with a great offense or vice versa, you could have a magical season. A lot of these teams, you want to make sure that you're getting in the top 15. You might have a top five offense, but if you have a 20th ranked defense, you could be in trouble. It's getting that balance. That's what you're looking for, or at least as close to that as possible. And for the Pittsburgh Steelers, Mike McCarthy from the Pittsburgh area, as we've been told many, many, many times, he's just a football coach is what he is. And Seaton, the cliche, the first cliche that Mike McCarthy says today is what.

Seaton (27:05)

I believe it's going to be something involving a rich tradition of football history. He's going to be speaking about the Steelers organization and talk about why wouldn't I want to coach at such a prestigious organization with a rich tradition of football history. Something like that.

Dan Patrick (27:23)

Okay, so rich tradition is the key. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Seaton (27:26)

Football history. Something about their history being one of the most iconic franchises. A rich tradition.

Dan Patrick (27:32)

Rich tradition, yes. Anybody else have a cliche? Marvin.

Todd Fritz (27:40)

He's going to say something to the effect of upholding the standard that the Steelers have set.

Dan Patrick (27:45)

That's a good one. Upholding the standard. That's a good one, Paul.

Paulie (27:48)

Those two could go back to back in either order. God, those are off the board already. I got to go to my second tier.

Dan Patrick (27:55)

Todd, do you have one?

Todd Fritz (27:56)

Oh, I jotted down a few sentences, if you'll humor me. It would just take just a couple seconds, but it has to do with number seven. If you. You want me to. It's less a cliche, more of what I think he'll say specifically.

Dan Patrick (28:07)

Okay.

Todd Fritz (28:07)

I am well aware that anything short of bringing a Super bowl title back to this great city and its fans is unacceptable. And I can assure you that I will do everything in my power to do just that. If my math is correct, the Steelers organization has won six championships. That being said, my new favorite number is lucky 7. Hold on tight to your terrible towels because I can assure you we're about to go on a wild, exciting ride.

Dan Patrick (28:26)

Okay, that's a speech. I'm. I was looking for a cliche.

Todd Fritz (28:30)

Lucky seven.

Dan Patrick (28:31)

Okay.

Todd Fritz (28:31)

He's all about lucky number seven. Seventh title.

Dan Patrick (28:33)

Yes. Paulie.

Paulie (28:34)

My word will be culture.

Seaton (28:37)

Oh, we're building a culture.

Paulie (28:39)

Football culture.

Seaton (28:41)

Yeah, that's a good one. That's a great one.

Dan Patrick (28:44)

I'm thinking this a hard working city and we're going to be a hard working football team. Okay. Yeah.

Paulie (28:52)

Are you thinking about the phrase blue collar?

Dan Patrick (28:55)

I don't know if blue collar comes in lunch pail, but hard hats. I know what it's like. Grow up in this city. There are hardworking people. We're going to be a hard working football team.

Todd Fritz (29:06)

Yes, Todd, he knows better than to refer to dream jobs after being with the packers and Cowboys to, you know, very popular organizations with, you know, legends. You can't, you know, crap on the former teams that you coached for by saying somehow that the Steelers are better than experiences being Green Bay and Dallas as coaches. I'm just curious if he goes there in any way.

Dan Patrick (29:25)

Is that a cliche? Todd, we're doing the cliche game.

Todd Fritz (29:28)

I already.

Dan Patrick (29:29)

Yeah, no, you screwed up the cliche. This is just my speech.

Todd Fritz (29:33)

I was doing a follow up point on the topic of what he. What he's going to refer to.

Dan Patrick (29:36)

But we're doing cliches and I don't have a cliche.

Todd Fritz (29:38)

I guess is the best way to say.

Dan Patrick (29:39)

Yeah, that's.

Todd Fritz (29:40)

That's. That's what you're getting at. Yeah, I have no cliches.

Dan Patrick (29:43)

Yeah, but if he brings. He can't bring up dream job because he was with the Cowboys and Packers, right? That's right.

Todd Fritz (29:50)

You can't play up the. I don't think you could play up how big a deal.

Dan Patrick (29:52)

Okay, so he won't use that cliche.

Todd Fritz (29:55)

That is a topic or a cliche that he will not use. That's my game of the antonym of cliche.

Dan Patrick (30:00)

Oh, oh, the antonym.

Todd Fritz (30:01)

What will he not say? Game? What are some of the things he won't say?

Dan Patrick (30:07)

Yes, I do like Todd.

Seaton (30:09)

I think we sort of drilled down on one point with Todd that he was going to bring up a seventh ring. Is that. That was the point of the speech before, right?

Dan Patrick (30:16)

Yeah.

Todd Fritz (30:17)

And then I worked around it with sentences that were lucky seven.

Seaton (30:19)

That's a pretty good one.

Todd Fritz (30:20)

It's got to be something off of the fact that they've got six titles and everybody's been waiting for this seventh for so long.

Dan Patrick (30:25)

No, they. He didn't want to put that much pressure on him himself. No, no, no.

Todd Fritz (30:30)

What are the expectations in Pittsburgh with Mike McCarthy?

Dan Patrick (30:32)

You know what? We're going to have a winning record and we're going to win our playoff game. First playoff game. That. That. Let's set the bar a little lower than winning.

Todd Fritz (30:41)

Very upset.

Dan Patrick (30:42)

What we got have a winning record.

Seaton (30:43)

You just fired that guy for that reason.

Dan Patrick (30:45)

Yeah, but we're going to win a playoff game and all we do is we play football.

Seaton (30:50)

That's crapping your pants and changing your shirt, Dan. Sorry.

Dan Patrick (30:53)

It's just football. Maybe he says that. Maybe that's his cliche. This place. Hey, me replacing Mike Tomlin. It's like crapping your pants and changing your shirt. We're going to play football. We're playing football in here. Hardworking football. Yes, Marvin.

Todd Fritz (31:07)

Steelers fans don't want to hear that. Especially when Mike Vrabel just took a four win team to the Super Bowl. And Mike McDonald yamo be there. They're going to the super bowl also. They don't want to hear that.

Dan Patrick (31:17)

Okay, but I don't think he's going to be saying. I mean, it's not a turnaround like Vrabel had a turnaround. Steelers made the playoffs, which is why.

Todd Fritz (31:28)

The expectations are going to be even higher.

Dan Patrick (31:30)

Okay, I don't think he says Super Bowl. Super Bowl.

Todd Fritz (31:34)

Yes, Todd, I think he has to or at least allude to that. He coached a team that's known as Title Town. Reason he's there is to win a Super Bowl. Nothing less. If that's his motto, for lack of a better word, that we're going to make sure we win at least one playoff game. No one wants to hear that.

Dan Patrick (31:47)

I was joking. I.

Joel and Matt (How To Money) (31:48)

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Seaton (31:49)

Dan, you were being serious. Okay, don't try to backtrack now.

Dan Patrick (31:52)

Don't backtrack now.

Seaton (31:53)

You said it.

Dan Patrick (31:54)

It's just a football coach, that's all. Football coach. That's all. Coach. What do you, what are your plans? Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers, football player. And you know, if he wants to come back, we're going to talk about that because we're a hard working city and a hard working football team. Yes.

Todd Fritz (32:10)

Does he say something to the effect that he matches the attitude of this city?

Dan Patrick (32:16)

It's pretty good.

Paulie (32:17)

It's just round two.

Dan Patrick (32:18)

Well, I, I think it's a free for all that. What the heck?

Seaton (32:21)

It's just, we're just going crazy right now.

Dan Patrick (32:24)

Yeah. Who knew that Mike McCarthy was this quotable.

Seaton (32:30)

Throw in and evaluate the roster.

Dan Patrick (32:31)

While we're at it.

Seaton (32:33)

You can't really make those decisions right now. We have to evaluate the roster. You can't say that when you're being introduced.

Dan Patrick (32:38)

Right.

Seaton (32:39)

You can't introduce and be like, you know, people are going to get cut.

Dan Patrick (32:41)

Yeah.

Seaton (32:44)

The best 11 guys on the field.

Dan Patrick (32:46)

Kind of what I. Chris in Syracuse. Hi, Chris. What's on your mind today?

Caller/Listener (32:51)

Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, maybe I think he uses the term dream job in the context of I'm a Pittsburgh guy, I'm one of you. And a couple things to throw at you, you know, a possible spin off segment off the popularity of the Dan Patrick show Colors always Right segment. Maybe Dan Netts are always right segment. It could be Dannette on Dinette. Crime, crime against the back row. Or maybe even some callers. James in Virginia can explain why he's so down on his commanders or Shane Irving can explain why he's so optimistic about his Cowboys. And also a lot of people are wondering why the last two years Brian Flores continues to be passed over for head coaching jobs. I think his pending lawsuit against the NFL is a really big Florida factor. Maybe the only factor.

Dan Patrick (33:42)

Thank you, Chris. Scott in la. Hi, Scott. What's on your mind today?

Caller/Listener (33:48)

Hey, on the analytics thing, it's really been driving me nuts, you know, if you look at baseball, you have 162 games. They're the ones who started analytics. If you look at the playoff structure, they don't follow the analytics. Even the Blue Jays this last year, they were bunning when the analytics said don't bunt because people act differently in the playoffs. Football, 17 games. The analytics include playing the Tennessee Titans or the Vegas Raiders. As your analytics tell me. There's no analytics that has a backup quarterback who hasn't played in two years in the championship game in the snow. And you're telling me they have enough data points to come up with analytics? No. Zero chance. So that's what I think some of these coaches need to start paying more attention to, is get away from this football. They're too caught up. They're starting to catch up with baseball. 162 versus 17 is a big difference.

Dan Patrick (34:35)

All right. Thank you, Scott. Yeah. When you make a decision and the value of that decision, considering the number of games you have in football as opposed to baseball. Yeah. Seaton.

Seaton (34:47)

I think the thing that we're missing, though, as you've brought up, rightfully so, which I guess I wish we had brought up yesterday, but just so I make sure that we have this correct, while we're killing analytics, is that Sean Payton went against the analytics when he should have gone with the analytics.

Dan Patrick (35:01)

Yes.

Seaton (35:01)

Correct. He should have listened to the analytics in that moment, but instead he went with his gut feeling.

Dan Patrick (35:06)

Yes.

Seaton (35:07)

So when we're looking at, there couldn't possibly be enough data points to know if this backup quarterback who hasn't played in two years could do it. Right. That's why you probably should have gone with the analytics that said don't do that.

Dan Patrick (35:17)

Yes.

Seaton (35:18)

Right.

Caller/Listener (35:18)

Yes.

Dan Patrick (35:19)

But also your opposition has your data, don't they? If, if I'm coming up with analytics, it's not just for my offense, it's for my defense. What would analytics tell me in that situation going against the Denver Broncos? And can you update it to factor in Jared Stidham? Can you factor in impending weather conditions? Like, that's what. I'm not sure how you can factor that in to real time analytics. And look, maybe somebody can help me with that because I know some people, they commented on Mark Schlerith saying, of course we factor in all of these things. Well, how do you do that? How do you do that? If you know their defensive line is better than yours in the moment, but didn't realize that maybe going into the game or we. We roll right. This makes the most sense in that situation. Why and does the defense know Jared Stidham is going to roll right? He's obviously not rolling left, but that's what I'm trying to understand. If you have information, chances are they have somebody who's doing the same thing. And I think that's what I'm trying to. I'm trying to be fair to analytics. I understand it. I just don't know if it's, hey, don't tell anybody, but our analytics say this. Dylan in Orlando. Hi, Dill. What's on your mind?

Caller/Listener (36:52)

Hey, Dan. Hope you can hear me. All right. Two quick things. One about Todd, one about football. First of all, I want to say that even though I'm a big Beatles fan, I think Holland Oaks is definitely enjoyable. Also pajama pants in public. Totally. Okay. And as a Raiders fan, I wanted your opinion on my first two draft picks. I think the Raiders should do. First of all, they should do Fernando Mendoza. I think he could work really well with action Jenky. And second, I think they should draft Isaiah World, the offensive tackle out of Oregon. I think he'll really help the line. Thank you and God bless.

Dan Patrick (37:20)

All right. All right. Thank you, Dill. If I'm the Raiders, I'm on the clock, but I'm on the phone. I want to talk to teams and we got to get better. Now, you might be passing up John Elway here or Andrew Luck, but I at least have to listen because in this draft where there's only a couple of quarterbacks who are first round worthy, and it might only be two, maybe three with Chambliss, but you know, that value of that number one pick just went up incrementally just because lack of, you know, talent at that position. If you got somebody to overspend and they gave you two first rounds and maybe two first round picks next draft, okay? As long as you trust your front office and you could utilize those picks, you're not winning anything right now. You're not in that, man. We could turn it around just like the Patriots. You're not, you're not close to doing that. First of all, you got to get a head coach. You know, you're going to have a head coach and you're going to have a first year quarterback. That is a bad recipe. First time coach because Mike Rabel coach before at a very, very high level. And Drake May was there one year and then Mike takes over.

Todd Fritz (38:36)

Yes, Todd, if Tom Brady's all in on Mendoza and he tells the rest of the front office, I don't want to hear about not Two first round picks, nine first round picks. He's our guy. We're taking him. Is there anyone that has that kind of power or the courage to tell Brady no for this, for this offer? We're not going to take Mendoza.

Dan Patrick (38:52)

What do you think?

Todd Fritz (38:53)

I think that ultimately Brady is going to say if he's that in on Mendoza, they're going to go with what Brady wants.

Dan Patrick (38:58)

Well, this is why you hired Tom Brady. You brought him in and gave him part of the team. Like, I'm not bringing in Brady and then not listening to him. And if he says, hey, I feel really strongly about. And if you get an offensive coordinator, if, if Tom decides to hire the guy that I feel like he was kind of telling us he was going to hire, Clint Kubiak, offensive coordinator, then all right, you know, you start. I just want continuity. You want your, your head coach, your offensive coordinator, and your quarterback. Because if you don't have continuity, it's really hard for that quarterback to develop. And if you have that for Mendoza, you're gonna, you know, bulk up the offensive line. Because if you don't, it doesn't matter. I don't care how good you are. As I pointed out numerous times, Patrick Mahomes without a really good offensive line was average in the super bowl. Twice below average in the Super Bowl. One of the greatest quarterbacks of all time. You have to have an offensive line. If not, you're wasting that draft pick on that quarterback. Play of the day is next. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.

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Josh Allen up there still. Oh my boy Matthew Stafford.

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The play of the day. This is the play of the day. Check this out. Minute 15 remaining in OT Clyde at 3 at the Garden. Here comes Bounc Robertson.

Todd Fritz (44:07)

Robertson to the net.

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He scores.

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What a point play by Matthew Robertson. Now the Rangers winning in overtime, 4 to 3.

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Seaton (44:59)

Which wins more games, Gut feeling or analytics? Right now, 70% of the audience say gut feeling. Okay, I think that depends on whose gut we're talking about, but sure.

Dan Patrick (45:08)

Tony in California. Hi, Tony. What's on your mind?

Caller/Listener (45:12)

Hey guys.

Dan Patrick (45:13)

Good morning. Morning.

Todd Fritz (45:13)

So.

Caller/Listener (45:15)

So Dan, I'm no Charles Barkley, but I played blackjack like once a year. And if you go into casino, they will give you a card with analytics telling you exactly what to do at the exact right time. And you know, but that's based on 5,000 hands or something. It's like the regular season to postseason. But if, if you have one bet for a thousand bucks, boy, but you will get the ire of the table. Not following the book of analytics. But if you have one bet, just, just do what's right in that moment rather than, you know, something based on five. It's a regular season to, you know, NFC championship game.

Dan Patrick (45:52)

I appreciate that, Tony. Yeah, I played blackjack one time and my wife was going to go do something and she said, why don't you play blackjack? And I said, I don't want to gamble. And I was looking for a five dollar table. If they would have had a dollar table, I would have been fine with that. But there was the last person on the table and it was a nightmare because everybody's strategy wise, okay, you, you hit on this, you don't hit on this and got to this person at the very end and you're just going, just stay like, don't hit, don't hit, don't. I'll take one more card bust. That would have busted the Dealer. And I think I lost $80 in a about five minutes because my wife came back and she said, how'd you do? And I go, I lost it. Oh, all of it. I go, well, $80. But it was, you know, somebody. Everybody was playing the analytics, and then the person at the very end was it. They were going on. Gut feeling. Yes, Todd.

Todd Fritz (46:58)

So is it better to play like roulette to something we have to rely on what other people's decisions are. When your money's.

Dan Patrick (47:03)

I don't want to play any of that stuff. It drives. I don't enjoy winning as much as I hate losing. And I won when I gambled on football. I did win, but it drove me crazy because A, I couldn't watch the game, and then B, anytime I would make money, it'd be like, well, okay. But when I lost money, it was like, drove me. Drove me wild. Yeah.

Paulie (47:28)

Paulie, I've always heard that you're never supposed to buck analytics playing blackjack because the house never does. They stick to it wire to wire. And if you buck analytics, you're removing any type of closure you can get on the odds.

Dan Patrick (47:40)

Yeah. Yeah, I get that. Robert in San Antonio. Hi, Robert. What's on your mind? Good morning, gentlemen.

Caller/Listener (47:50)

Five, eight and a soft 220.

Dan Patrick (47:56)

I just wanted to make a comment.

Caller/Listener (47:57)

About McCarthy going to the Steelers.

Dan Patrick (48:00)

I'm a long law.

Caller/Listener (48:01)

I'm a long die hard Cowboy fan, and nothing would bring me great Joy to see McCarthy win a Super bowl with the Steelers. He's already won it with Green Bay. And seeing Jerry Joe getting stuck to one more time would be an embarrassment, and I would love every bit of it as a fuming Cowboy fan.

Dan Patrick (48:20)

All right. Thank you, Robert. Boy, it's got a pain. Jerry Jones see Robert Kraft going to another Super Bowl. What is that, 10 for him? 11. 11 Super Bowls. He's not in the hall of Fame yet. Colin in Texas. Hi, Colin.

Caller/Listener (48:39)

Hi, Dan. Good morning.

Dan Patrick (48:41)

Good morning.

Caller/Listener (48:42)

Six, two, two, Hondo. So surrounding the Mike McCarthy cliches. I think the real cliche here is Todd Fritz not delivering a cliche. Or maybe it's a bit of irony.

Dan Patrick (48:59)

I don't know.

Caller/Listener (48:59)

The line's blurred there. Anyway, suck it, Denver. Suck it. Back corner pocket.

Dan Patrick (49:04)

Thank you, Colin. Yes, that is true.

Seaton (49:07)

Todd didn't give us a cliche.

Dan Patrick (49:09)

No, he gave me a speech.

Seaton (49:10)

He gave a speech with.

Todd Fritz (49:12)

With.

Seaton (49:12)

Without any cliches in it. Interesting.

Dan Patrick (49:15)

Well, the. He gave us the lucky seven. Like seventh super bowl for the Steelers.

Seaton (49:20)

That's very specific to this one situation.

Dan Patrick (49:23)

Less Cliche. Lee in New York. Hi, Lee.

Caller/Listener (49:28)

Thanks for taking my call.

Dan Patrick (49:29)

Yep.

Caller/Listener (49:30)

Hey, you talk about analytics this morning now in Denver, don't they know analytically that there's bad weather coming and you take all the points you can before that bad weather gets there?

Dan Patrick (49:41)

That's what I've been saying. Yes.

Caller/Listener (49:45)

Then Todd didn't know this either.

Dan Patrick (49:49)

I don't think the weather was a, I don't think that that was a big deal. Talking about leading up to the game, although both teams knew that there was the possibility for bad weather coming in there. I just would have thought take is whenever you can, get points, get points again. And New England's defense is really good. And I think you got to factor that in as well. And you got Jared Stidham and maybe you're reducing your playbook a little bit because of a backup quarterback. I, I said at the time I understood Sean Payton was going for the kill too early in my opinion, because they go up two touchdowns at home, maybe bad weather. And that defense, in his mind, we're going to win, we're going to the Super Bowl. I get it. I just think that he was too aggressive too early. Ross Tucker is going to join us. Coming up, hour two. Reggie Miller stops by in the final hour. Dan and the Dan, that's Dan Patrick Show.

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