Hour 1 – Why isn’t Tom Brady rooting for the Patriots? Gerald McCoy

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 1 Summary

Date: February 5, 2026
Theme: The Patriots' Super Bowl return and why Tom Brady isn’t rooting for New England; conversation with Gerald McCoy.

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Episode Overview

Dan Patrick and the Danettes broadcast from San Francisco, blending sports insight with humor and behind-the-scenes banter. The hour focuses on the curious stance taken by Tom Brady—one of New England's most iconic sports figures—who claims he isn’t rooting for the Patriots in the Super Bowl. The team debates Brady’s comments, explores athlete loyalty, and welcomes former NFL star and current analyst Gerald McCoy to discuss ESPN topics such as the Pro Bowl’s decline and his own career.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Tom Brady's Curious Super Bowl Neutrality

• Context: On his “Let’s Go!” podcast, Tom Brady says he has “no dog in the fight” regarding the Patriots’ Super Bowl appearance.
• Quote (Tom Brady, 01:42):
  “Listen, I don’t have a dog in the fight in this one. May the best team win. And in terms of the Patriots, this is a new chapter in New England, and I’m glad everyone’s embraced the Mike Vrabel regime... The Patriots are back and it's a very exciting time for everyone in New England.”
• Dan and the Danettes React: Immediate disbelief and playful mockery.
  • Dan (02:09): “Is Tom all of a sudden morphing into a journalist? Can't Tom just say, ‘Hey, Mr. Kraft, it'd be great if he got another Super Bowl…’? What’s going on here?”
  • Seaton (03:16): “He looked at this matchup and was like, ‘I don’t know. I just want a good game. What the hell’s wrong with you?’”
  • Paulie (03:55): “That’s an easy one to just give one of those answers: ‘I’m always rooting for the best for the Patriots and look forward to a great matchup…’ That’s an easy one.”
  • Seaton (04:17): “Every single thing that he said about the Patriots right there, you could easily say Seahawks, and it would be exactly the same.”
• Speculation:
  • Is Brady protecting his legacy, not wanting the Patriots to succeed without him?
  • Is he balancing impartiality since he's a Raiders co-owner and possibly hiring Seattle’s OC Clint Kubiak?
  • Is he simply dodging controversy given his business/media entanglements?

2. Player (and Podcaster) Loyalty: The Devil's Advocate

• Dan and team compare:
  • What would LeBron say if the Cavs were in the Finals after he left?
    • Paulie (05:26): “My guess is LeBron would say, ‘I'll always root for the best for the Cavs.’ He would know to say that.”
  • McLovin and the Sports Emmys; Tiki Barber and the Giants—the panel notes that athletes often face awkward loyalty questions when their former teams prosper quickly.

3. Poll Question and Listener Engagement

• Poll Question (08:42): “Who should Tom Brady be rooting for in the Super Bowl?”
• Listener Callers:
  • Chris in Syracuse (18:04): Notes Brady’s comfort with his conflicting Raiders/TV roles yet reticence to back the Patriots.
  • Patrick in California (18:36): Suggests Brady wants Seattle to win to keep his personal ring total ahead of the Patriots’.

4. Interview: Gerald McCoy Segment

On the Decline of the Pro Bowl

• McCoy (19:55): “Thank you for saying that about the Pro Bowl. That is a definite fact. It was a little different back then. Mattered more back then.”
• Explains how being an original selection (not an alternate) used to mean more and that the designation has lost value with so many alternates now—players like Justin Fields and Tyler Huntley getting invited despite benchings or poor seasons.
  • Quote (McCoy, 22:19): “Justin Fields got benched and got offered to be a Pro Bowl.”
  • Suggestion: Only original selections should be considered “Pro Bowlers,” or turn it into a players’ trip/vacation without the formal tag.

On Fanatic Loyalty vs. Support

• McCoy describes his enduring “fan” status with the Bucs, illustrating the difference between mere supporters and true fans.
  • Quote (24:34): “Fan is short for fanatic, and you find out how much it means to them... Their week will not go well if their team doesn’t do well… That’s how I am about the Bucs.”
  • Relates a story (26:22) about sneaking out of church to watch the Bucs in the Super Bowl as a kid.

On Tom Brady’s Comments & Media Life

• McCoy’s Perspective (23:01):
  • Maybe Brady’s avoiding controversy due to “so much scrutiny for being a partial owner… and calling games.”
  • McCoy embraces open bias as a former player, always picking the Bucs and owning it on NFL Network.
  • Ultimately, McCoy thinks Brady is just being tactical, but “nobody is buying that he is not rooting for somebody.” (27:03)

On Sacking Tom Brady

• McCoy: Vividly recalls sacking Brady—one of his proud moments.
  • Quote (28:19): “When I sacked Tom, I ran the sideline… I was just sitting there and Levante was like, ‘Gee, you got him.’”

On Hall of Fame Candidacy

• McCoy gives a detailed self-assessment—proud of being in the conversation, even if he doesn’t make it.
  • Quote (32:39): “The fact that I’m in the conversation, man… I did enough.”
  • Cites his record: six straight Pro Bowl nods, among rare company with players like Aaron Donald and Warren Sapp.

On Facing Young QBs (Drake May vs. Sam Darnold)

• McCoy would prefer to play against Drake May, who’s more mobile but less adept at “picking you apart with their mind.”
  • Would test May’s injured shoulder aggressively.

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Notable Quotes and Moments

• Dan (02:09): “He's got a statue outside the stadium... What's going on here?”
• Seaton (03:43): “You can’t look and be like, ‘Hell yeah, I have a statue outside of Gillette. Of course I’m rooting for the Patriots.’ What kind of question is that?”
• Gerald McCoy (24:34): “A fan is short for fanatic, and you find out how much it means to them… That’s how I am about the Bucs.”
• Patrick (Caller) (18:59): “Tom Brady's got seven Super Bowls. The Patriots and the Steelers have six. He wants the Seahawks to win... He wants to stay ahead at seven.”
• Seaton’s Tom Brady impression (03:24): “What I root for is hard work and dedication, because that's what made my career so successful…”
• Asante Samuel social media reaction (quoted by Seaton, 39:23): “Tom Brady, you have 23 hours to respond or it’s up… Tom Brady’s new name is Flaw Ass Brady. He’s going crazy.”

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:42] – Tom Brady’s “no dog in the fight” quote
• [02:09-06:29] – Dan and Danettes debate/dissect Brady’s comments and athlete loyalties
• [08:42–13:12] – Poll question: Should Brady be rooting for NE, Seattle, or nobody?
• [19:55–35:13] – Gerald McCoy interview: Pro Bowl, NFL fandom, sacking Brady, Hall of Fame case
• [37:16] – Deion Sanders' story about playing against Bo Jackson in college
• [39:23] – Asante Samuel’s angry Twitter reaction to Brady’s neutrality

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Flow & Tone

The tone is conversational, humor-laced, with Dan and his team mixing serious sports commentary, good-natured ribbing, and playful impersonations (especially of Tom Brady). McCoy’s appearance infuses player perspective and candor—he’s engaging and self-reflective, not shying from fandom or professional pride.

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Takeaways

• Tom Brady’s refusal to publicly root for the Patriots in the Super Bowl is viewed as strange and inauthentic by most of the panel and callers.
• Brady’s balancing act as broadcaster, partial owner, and NFL legend might be shaping his answers, but the consensus is he should be (and probably is) rooting for the Pats.
• Gerald McCoy provides enlightening NFL insider views, especially on declining Pro Bowl prestige and the meaning of true fandom.
• The “no dog in the fight” theme becomes both a springboard for sports analysis and a running comedic bit, with the Danettes hammering the point with impressions and analogies.
• Social media, especially from ex-Patriots like Asante Samuel, amplifies the expectation for alumni to publicly support their teams.

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For those who missed the episode:
Expect a lively, thoughtful debate on sports loyalty, a candid ex-player interview, fan interactions, and signature Dan Patrick Show humor as the Super Bowl hype hits its peak.

Transcript

[Dan Patrick]

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[Tom Brady (quoted)]

Listen, I don't have a dog in the fight in this one. May the best team win. And in terms of the Patriots, this is a new chapter in New England, and I'm glad everyone's embraced the Mike Vrabel regime. All the amazing players that have worked so hard to get their club to this position. We did it for 20 years. There was a little bit of a hiatus in there. But the Patriots are back and it's a very exciting time for everyone in New England.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, is Tom all of a sudden morphing into a journalist? Like, he can't tell you that he might be rooting for Robert Kraft and the Patriots? He's not calling the game. He's just Tom Brady. You've got a statue outside the stadium. Like, what's going on here? Can't Tom just say, hey, Mr. Kraft it'd be great if he got another Super Bowl. You know, my heart's always there, New England, a lot of great memories. And, you know, now, I did think of two things. First of all, he's hiring Seattle's offensive coordinator, Clint Kubiak, so he might be trying to be impartial here because, hey, I would like for my next head coach to win a Super Bowl. That makes us look better as an owner of the Raiders. The other part is, does Tom not want New England to succeed without Tom? Like, this Drake May kid. What's he doing in the Super Bowl? Trying to win Super Bowls. I win Super Bowls here. Yes.

[Seaton]

You're telling me this dude looked at the super bowl matchup and couldn't figure out who he's rooting for?

[Paulie]

No connection.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

He looked at this matchup and was like, I don't know. I just want a good game. What the hell's wrong with you?

[Dan Patrick]

Seaton's been working on his Tom Brady impersonation.

[Seaton]

Well, you know, I just. What I root for is hard work and dedication, because that's what made my career so successful, was my hard work and dedication. So when I look at this super bowl matchup, what I'm really rooting for is watching a game full of hard work and dedication, because that's been the story of my career.

[Dan Patrick]

A lot of hard work and a lot of dedication.

[Seaton]

What the hell, dude? You can't look and be like, hell, yeah, I have a statue outside of Gillette. Of course I'm rooting for the Patriots. What kind of question is that?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. I don't know.

[Seaton]

I'm kind of. Kind of like the Seahawks in this. What the hell is wrong with you?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Paulie.

[Paulie]

I always try to play devil's advocate with almost anything in the media, but when I heard Tom say this, I'm like, no dog in the fight. That opens up a lot of different criticisms and perceptions like what you said. Maybe he's not rooting for them because of it's too soon to his legacy, but that's an easy one to say. I'm always rooting for the best for the Patriots and look forward to a great matchup on Sunday. That's an easy one to just give one of those answers.

[Seaton]

Every single thing that he said about the Patriots right there, you could easily say Seahawks, and it would be exactly the same. Yo, the Seahawks are back. It's been a long road. They're, you know, they were down for a little bit, but now they're back in the Super Bowl. People have bought into this new regime. Every single thing he said about the Patriots, you could easily put on the Seahawks, and it would be valid.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, let me play that again. Here is Tom Brady on his let's Go podcast with Jim Gray.

[Tom Brady (quoted)]

Listen, I don't have a dog in the fight in this one. May the best team win. And in terms of the Patriots, this is a new chapter in New England, and I'm glad everyone's embraced the Mike Vraebol regime. All the amazing players that have worked so hard to get their club to this position, we did it for 20 years. There was a little bit of a hiatus in there. But the Patriots are back, and it's a very exciting time for everyone in New England.

[Seaton]

Very exciting time for everyone in Seattle. They're back. You know, everyone's bought into the regime. All the players that have worked so hard in Seattle, it's the exact same thing.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm very happy for Sam Darnold, Mike McDonald. Yeah, they bought into hard work and dedication.

[Seaton]

That's what I like about when I think of the success I've had in my career. I think of hard work and dedication.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Paulie]

Just to compare this, let's imagine that the Cleveland Cavaliers, after making the trade, somehow got to the NBA Finals, and LeBron James is out and he's at home. And they asked LeBron James on his own podcast who you're rooting for. My guess is LeBron would say, while I'm a Laker currently, I'll always root for the best for the Cavs. He would know to say that. Don't you think even he's an active player.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know if he would be saying that about the Cavaliers.

[Paulie]

I think he would say that if they were in the Finals and the Lakers were done.

[Seaton]

Okay, what if he. What if. Okay, so Tom Brady's not playing. He's not active. What if LeBron James is retired and maybe sometimes dips his toes into doing some broadcasting for the NBA and the Cavaliers are in the NBA Finals?

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm.

[Seaton]

I would guarantee you if he's not calling the game, he's going to be like, hell, yeah, I want Cleveland to win. Yeah, wrong with you.

[Dan Patrick]

I was just. Tom. When he said, I don't have a dog in the fight, I'm like, no, you do.

[Seaton]

You looked at that matchup, and you can't figure out which dog is yours.

[Dan Patrick]

You got a St. Bernard in the fight. You don't have a Chihuahua.

[Seaton]

I just want a good game. What. What the hell? What happened to him? What happened to Our guy. What happened to the hero?

[Dan Patrick]

What.

[Seaton]

What happened to. Let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

How long you been working on your Tom Brady impersonation?

[Seaton]

It just. It just happened.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

I really didn't. I never had one until an hour ago.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Seaton]

It's just, you know, I just.

[Dan Patrick]

It sounds a little like Gronk as well.

[Seaton]

Hell.

[Paulie]

Smattering. Smattering of Gronk.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Yeah, just a little bit there.

[Seaton]

Just hard work and dedication is really the thing that I get excited about when I watch the game.

[Dan Patrick]

We're not going to get Tom Brady on the show, are we, Todd? It is going to make it a little more difficult than it already has been. The gang's all here. Fritzi, the minister of humor, Seaton, Marvin, Paulie, and yours truly, the backroom guys. And of course, our audience here. Great, great crowds all week long here at the China Basin. Yes, Paul.

[Gerald McCoy]

Someone just sent it on Twitter.

[Paulie]

This would be like if McLovin were asked, who are you rooting for for the sports Emmys? And he said, I don't really have a dog in the fight.

[Dan Patrick]

Of course he'd be rooting for us, but not Marvin.

[Paulie]

Oh, yes, he would.

[Dan Patrick]

You think so?

[Paulie]

Oh, yeah, yeah. He loves the Marv.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know.

[Seaton]

I think that first year after the switch, McLovin was not rooting for us.

[Dan Patrick]

To win a sports Emmy.

[Paulie]

This is a couple years pass. Just like Tom Brady.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah. McLovin would root.

[Seaton]

Yeah, he would now.

[Dan Patrick]

He would now. Okay. But not that first year.

[Paulie]

Possibly not.

[Marvin]

No, definitely not.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, Todd, but why not? Even the first year you didn't let him go. He chose to leave, so there was no awkward situation. He moved on to something, El. So why not root for the place you were? There wasn't any acrimony when he departed. We were just having fun. Like, I'd be disappointed if he wasn't.

[Gerald McCoy]

Rooting for us right away starting the.

[Dan Patrick]

First year he wasn't here. I. I didn't know we'd break down McLovin leaving and not rooting us. Rooting for us with a sports enemy.

[Paulie]

But the NFL comp on this one day, and we like to comp. Oh, Tiki Barber leaving the New York Giants. They go to the super bowl the next year. He probably was like, I don't know if I want them to win. Right after I left.

[Dan Patrick]

He would want. He would want some teammates to win. Yeah, yeah. But he chose to leave, right? He went into the media. That's that. You got to root for the Giants. If you leave and you don't play for another team.

[Paulie]

That old Tiki Barber McLovin comparison, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, poll question today, first hour. Seaton.

[Seaton]

Okay. Arguably the dumbest poll question I've ever had to suggest on this show, and I've suggested a lot of really stupid ones. Who should Tom Brady be rooting for in the Super Bowl?

[Paulie]

I think, Dan, you nailed it. I think it's the Clint Kubiak Seattle angle of this made him forced, impartial or whatever you want to call it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but he's not Woodward and Bernstein here. Like, he's all of a sudden become this journalist here. I'm okay if you say, hey, you know what? I can't lose here. My next coach is the offensive coordinator for the Seahawks and, you know, my former owner, who should be in the hall of Fame. You know, I'm going to have mixed emotions watching this.

[Seaton]

I like the idea that he can't say he's rooting for the Patriots in this game, but he's perfectly comfortable being a partial owner of a team while also being a broadcaster because he doesn't want to seem impartial.

[Paulie]

No conflicts of interest.

[Seaton]

The hell is wrong with you, dude?

[Dan Patrick]

877-3-Dp Show Operator Tyler sitting by. Take your phone calls. Good morning. If you're watching on Peacock or the NBC Sports Network, our partners, the NBC folks, will be bringing you the Super Bowl. And we will talk to the sideline reporters Melissa Stark and Kaylee Hard tongue. In the final hour of the program, Andrew Luck will stop.

[Paulie]

Exciting morning call.

[Dan Patrick]

Are you going to do se will do as Tom Brady and you'll do your Andrew Luck.

[Paulie]

I think I did it once.

[Dan Patrick]

You did in front of me. He was okay with it.

[Paulie]

He was. He had a courtesy laugh.

[Dan Patrick]

He was a good sport. Kirk, Herb street is stopping by with his dog and Bo Jackson. Vincent Edward. Bo Jackson. What? Yeah. How about that? In an hour from now, Bo Jackson. You know what we were telling people yesterday last night at dinner, like, who's on the show? And I ran down, you know, some of the people, and all of a sudden you come to, yeah, we have Bo Jackson. Bo Jackson. I'm like, yeah, this is one of those, you know, when you say living legends because we don't see Bo. I don't know what he's been doing the last 25 years, but you have the stories of Bo Jackson. It's almost as if he played during the days of radio where you didn't see him, but you hear the stories about him. And Dion tells that incredible story where Deon was Facing him in college at Florida State, Bo got the ball, went left, and all of a sudden, Bo put his hand out on Deon's helmet as if he was kind of blessing him.

[Seaton]

And I ran up on him like no other. I could fly.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

It's such a good story.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. We'll bring that back. Just because Dion. Dion doesn't get humbled too often. And in that moment, Dion's like, you know, I was up on him because I fly.

[Seaton]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

And then he put his hand on my helmet, pushed me down, and then took off. Because you look at Dion being fast. Bo was fast, but he weighed 40 pounds more than him. Yes. Marvin.

[Marvin]

And Bojacks is one of those guys where if I tell somebody who's 20, man, Bo Jackson's on the show and he's an icon, he's a legend, all of that. And somebody goes on football reference or baseball reference, and they see his numbers, they're like, he only played for X amount of years. What's the big deal?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Marvin]

He's first ballad. You had to be there for him. You had to. Bo knows that whole Nike campaign was on par with Be Like Mike.

[Dan Patrick]

I have held on to this.

[Seaton]

Wow.

[Dan Patrick]

Bo knows this was the campaign that Beau had. Now, this is before Be Like Mike and, you know, Ken Griffey Jr. For president and. Or after Mike that, you know, Nike capitalized on this. So I have probably. This has been with me for at least 30 years. So I'm trying. Was that late 80s, early 90s, late 80s, late 80s. And of course, I don't throw anything away. And I pack this up because it's in the man cave. And I thought, you know what? I'm gonna bring this out, see if Bo will sign that. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

And if you go back to that Bo Nose campaign, the Nike commercial, where he's doing all the different things, tennis and all the things. And at the very end, he tries hockey. And all of a sudden, Wayne Gretzky goes, no, what a great spot.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. I wouldn't rule it out, though, if, you know, you could teach him how to skate. Boy, can you imagine Bo out there on the ice with a stick? Yeah. All right, so poll question. Is Tom Brady related?

[Seaton]

Yeah, the poll question is, who should Tom Brady be rooting for in this Super Bowl? New England, Seattle, or neither.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. By the way, when you're out at events like this, you. You run into celebrities, you'll meet people or you'll meet somebody who knows somebody, and they think, sandler does this to me all the time. Because I'll be there on a movie set, and he'll say to Tom Cruise, hey, hey, Cruz. You know Danny, he doesn't know me. And he did that with Jennifer Aniston. He's like, hey, Jen, you know Danny. And she's looking at me like, I don't know who you are. There was a moment a few years ago, we're at the super bowl, and Seaton was. You met Chrissy Tegan and John Legend.

[Seaton]

It was, I want to say, like, was it the year Jay Z and Beyonce did, like, they were playing at, like, a party or something like that?

[Dan Patrick]

That was New York. Was.

[Seaton]

Yeah, it was New York. Yeah. And I'm standing there in, like, this area. I'm probably not supposed to be there, but John Legend and Chrissy Teigen go walking by, and I. You know, we do know them. And I'm like, oh, what's up? You know, sort of like, hug everybody or whatever. And Chrissy Teigen goes, oh, hey, Kim. You know Seton, right? And it's Kim Kardashian. And she's like, hey. Like, she has no idea who I am, obviously. Oh, yeah. You know Seaton, right? Oh, my God, that's Kim Kardashian. It almost felt like, though, when people do that, like, oh, you know this person, right? Like, don't worry about them. They're fine.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You know, like, they're co signing on.

[Seaton]

Co signing. Like, yeah, don't worry about this guy. He's in. Don't worry about it.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You might not know him, but he's not creepy.

[Seaton]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

Hey, hey.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Like the mafia. He's a friend of ours.

[Marvin]

He's in the club.

[Seaton]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

All righty. So let's see. We got a poll question. Gerald McCoy, NFL Network, former pro bowl lineman. He'll join us. He's always been a great guest. So Bo Jackson, Kirk Curb street, and his dog. So his dog is what, Peter? Petey? Peter. Peter. Yeah. Okay. He goes wherever Kirk goes. Andrew Luck will join us. And then the sideline reporters for NBC with Super Bowl 60, Melissa Stark and Kaylee Hartung.

[Seaton]

So I'd have to do a better. A different poll question. Better guest today. Bo Jackson, Andrew Luck, Peter the dog.

[Dan Patrick]

Or Melissa Stark, Kaylee Hartung.

[Seaton]

Yeah, I mean, just do the whole thing. But the dog might win that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Oh, that's a great dog, though.

[Seaton]

Yeah. Yeah, Great dog.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. So Hervey's bringing his dog.

[Seaton]

I mean, is there a bad one, Dan?

[Dan Patrick]

No, I don't really.

[Seaton]

Good boy.

[Dan Patrick]

No.

[Seaton]

No bad dogs. Only bad owners.

[Dan Patrick]

No, in fact, my dog, we had to bring her to work because she's miserable at home because I'm not there. And then Tyler takes care of her. And so my wife has had to drop off Winnie. It's just Tyler at the man Cave and Winnie is there keeping Tyler company while we're here. So it's just a heartwarming story. It really is. Really a heartwarming story. All right, we'll take a break. Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analysts will join us coming up next. Glad you're with us. Hour 1 Thursday Dan and the Dan Ants Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the.

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[Marvin]

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[Dan Patrick]

Just getting started on this Thursday. Our thanks to Z. Kleiner as one lucky member of the audience gets to sit in the heated Z. Kleiner for the entire show and hopefully he'll stay awake. As Paulie said, that's not the first time that he sat in a Z claimer.

[Paulie]

He's worn out a few.

[Dan Patrick]

The current get in price for the super bowl is down $250 over the last day. Just got an update. $4523, the get in price for Super Bowl 60. Chris in Syracuse. Hi Chris. What's on your mind?

[Dion Sanders]

Hey, thanks, Dan. Hey, I got a couple things for you. Hey. Next year's college football title game is until January 25th and there's two full weeks between the quarterfinals and the semis. It's crazy this extended format as a moment and interesting with Tom Brady. He's not that worried about the perception of him working for Fox and being an owner of the Raiders. Yet he's worried about the perception of him pulling for the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Chris Patrick in California. Hi, patrick.

[Patrick (Caller)]

Morning, Dan. Five foot eight, 180. I just want to tell you, bro, I watch you every morning. Sometimes I'll even turn on the show. I just want to weigh in on the poll, on the poll question. Tom Brady, he's the winningest fan.

[Dan Patrick]

Patrick, you said you watch the show and sometimes you'll turn on the show.

[Patrick (Caller)]

Oh, I said I watch you every morning. Yeah, I'll even turn on the show.

[Seaton]

Yeah, it's funny.

[Patrick (Caller)]

Okay, I'm just messing with you, bro. Tom Brady's got seven, seven Super Bowls. The Patriots and the Steelers have six. He, he wants, he wants the Seahawks to win this Super Bowl. He's got seven Super Bowls. Everybody else has six. He wants to stay ahead at seven. That's my opinion.

[Dan Patrick]

All right. All right, thank you. He's Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst and six time Pro Bowler. Back when it meant something to be a Pro Bowler. And you can see NFL Network their coverage. They have an eight and a half hour edition of NFL game day morning. It just started like five minutes ago. Super Bowl Sunday, 9 Eastern on NFL Network. We make way for the former Oklahoma Sooner. Got his Batman gear on. You got your necklace. Yeah, Yeah, I like that.

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm glad, I'm glad. First off, thanks for having me. Yeah, appreciate y' all inviting me back. A couple things. First off, thank you for saying that about the Pro Bowl. That is a, a definite fact. It was a little different back then. Mattered more back then.

[Dan Patrick]

When did it change?

[Gerald McCoy]

You know, my first provost in 2012, Peyton Manning, who, if you didn't know at that point, you should have known, was going to be a dynamo when he finished football because he did like a 20 minute stand up routine and it was phenomenal.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, in front of all the players.

[Gerald McCoy]

In front of all the players. Yeah, Peyton Manning did. And then he ended it with saying what the Pro bowl meant and why it was important to start coming back to the Pro bowl because he seen where it was headed. And I think I forget who the player was. A player got injured in the Pro bowl and almost, I want to say into his career, but missed the next season and kind of from that point went downhill, man. And I believe after that it was just like, man, let's, let's start, you know, because it just, the game just got worse and worse.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But I don't like that People can have the designation of a Pro Bowler and they're not really pro, like Shador Sanders and, you know, Joe Flacco. They're. They're not Pro Bowlers.

[Gerald McCoy]

Well, this is why I always said it just needs to be a trip. It just needs to be. If we. If we've gotten to the point to where we are now, once you get voted in that initial group, are the only people who need to have the designation as a Pro Bowler. Because for me, I think it was Joy Porter. I was talking to one of the Pro Bowls. We were out in the lobby and there was a couple other guys. He said, you need to take pride in the fact you've never been an alternate. I made six straight Pro Bowls and I was never alternate. I was an original voted in Pro Bowler. And those guys, if the game is going to be how it is, those are the ones who need to get the Pro bowl tag. Because then you don't have to worry about all of these people that are going to the Pro Bowls. Like, oh, I got Pro bowl attached to my name and I'm eighth on the list. It's not realistic.

[Dan Patrick]

Justin Fields turned down the Pro Bowl.

[Gerald McCoy]

Justin Fields got benched and got offered to be a Pro Bowl.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes.

[Gerald McCoy]

That's where we've headed. You see what I'm saying? So if we're not gonna.

[Dan Patrick]

Tyler Huntley, too.

[Gerald McCoy]

If we're not.

[Dan Patrick]

If.

[Gerald McCoy]

If we've gotten to the point to where a person has to turn down the Provo because they know they're not worthy to be a Pro Bowler. Let's just make it. Let's just make it a trip or vacation to honor these guys and do it that way.

[Dan Patrick]

I agree. I've been saying that for years. It's not fair to those who are actual Pro bowl players, but they are able to put that on their Wikipedia page.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Tom Brady says he doesn't have a dog in the fight and he's not rooting for anybody.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Why would he say that, Gerald?

[Gerald McCoy]

I was listening to you guys and I said they have a lot of valid points. But I looked at it from a different perspective because he has been getting so much scrutiny for being a partial owner or however, whatever percentage of the Raiders and calling games. I believe now he's gotten to the point to where he, like, you know what? I'm gonna just take a step back and I'm not gonna root for anybody because I've gotten so much heat from doing it the way I've done it. I'm just gonna. I'M just. He's Tom Brady, so it's. Everything he do is under a microscope. Like me. I'm staying on the mountaintop of screen for the Bucks. I don't care how none of y' all feel. Whatever, you know, y' all get. Joe, he's biased. I told you that when I sat in the chair. Oh, yeah, I was biased when you hired me. I told. I remember I got hired by the NFL Network, and we sat down, my very first show, and we picked games, and I said, I'm telling y' all right now. I'm gonna always pick the Bucs. I don't care how bad they are. What it was like, oh, by years in, you gonna. We'll see. Three years in, I picked the Bucks every week. I don't care. It's just like. It's like these beautiful people over here. Okay, this is why Gerald. I don't know how everybody else feels, but this is why Gerald says he loves fans. There's a difference in supporters, in fans. Some people are supporters.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

I support them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But fans is that early.

[Dan Patrick]

It is out here.

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm gonna tell y' all right now. I don't know what team y' all rooting for or, you know, whatever. Y' all might just be fans of.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan.

[Gerald McCoy]

I don't care. But a fan is short for fanatic, and you find out how much it means to them. Like, they really. Their week will not go well if their team doesn't do well. Whoever they are fans of are not. They will go to bat for those people. And those are the people where I'm okay with taking scrutiny and boos and all, because they really altered their life to be fans for this team. And that's how I am about the Bucks. I don't care how y' all feel. I grew up a Bucks fan as a kid. I've been rooting for the Bucks since I was a child. I just so happened to get drafted there, and now I'm employed or whatever, so my fandom don't change, you know? So.

[Dan Patrick]

Is that because of the Sellman brothers?

[Gerald McCoy]

No, it was. It initially started because of Warren Sapp. I was a defensive tackle and the Cowboys in Oklahoma, where I'm from, there's, you feel two ways about them. Either love them or you hate them. My first book report was on the Cowboys. You know, I did one on Troy Aikman, Emmy Smith, and Michael Irvin. That was my first book reports because it's. You know. But our NFL team is the University of Oklahoma but then there's this little fat defensive lineman that's destroying everything. Is. You know, he's. He's a showman. And I'm like, man, that dude is.

[Dan Patrick]

He's good.

[Gerald McCoy]

But then I start looking, man, the whole defense is good. And then I start picking up on everybody, you know, Kenan McCardell and War Dunn and who didn't love Mike Allstyle. And then at that time, a video game was out called NFL Blitz. And Mike Allstyle was unstoppable on that game. So I'm like, listen, that team that is from. Man, I. I grew up in the church. And Super Bowl Sunday, we got to watch the beginning of the game. And this is just black people, man. Us in our night church, we have. So we went. We had night church. And my mom was like, I don't care about that.

[Dan Patrick]

We going back to church.

[Gerald McCoy]

I'm like, mama, it's the Bucks. It's the Bucks. So we're at church, and the pastor's son, he got the key to his dad's office. So we snuck out. Like, oh, mama, I got. Oh, I gotta pee. I gotta pee. We go to the pastor's office, and we're watching the game. We like sneaking out, like. So this is when I say my fandom for the Bucks. It runs deep. It runs deep. So back to Tom. Tom played in that organization. I'm pretty sure he's indebted to them. But he's Tom Brady and he has to tread lightly because even now, him saying what he's saying, he's still getting scrutiny.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but nobody is buying that. He is not rooting for somebody.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, I'm okay.

[Dan Patrick]

The offensive coordinator is going to be his head coach. Don't you want to have the super bowl winning offensive coordinator coming in to the Raiders organization? You want that pr and you got a statue outside of Foxboro. You're not kidding anybody here?

[Gerald McCoy]

Well, I. You know, Tom, Tom, move how you move. I don't. I don't see the issue with saying. Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you ever sack Tom? I did.

[Gerald McCoy]

Oh. Oh, my goodness, I did. Listen, there's some people. There's some people like defensive linemen. Now. I'm not Miles Garrett. Where I'm have a graveyard with these people's names on it. You know, they say a lot of stuff is disrespectful, but putting people's names on gravestones are like, God dang. Wow. You don't care at all. I just said I have a mantle. You know, put these names under my belt. He Put people in the grave. All right, so for me, there's certain people you want to get. And my favorite player is Aaron Rodgers. So I was able to sack Aaron Rodgers. That's a completely different story. But Tom, you just want to do it. I remember when Jason Tatum dunked on LeBron, he was like, man, like freaking LeBron James. You know what I'm saying?

[Dan Patrick]

I got him. Yeah.

[Gerald McCoy]

So when I sacked Tom, I usually always celebrate when I sacked Tom, I ran the sideline. I was just sitting there and Levante was like, gee, you got him.

[Dan Patrick]

You got him.

[Gerald McCoy]

And I was sitting there kind of in shock. I was like, I did, didn't I?

[Dan Patrick]

I did.

[Gerald McCoy]

I did it. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you have a photo of it?

[Gerald McCoy]

I do have a photo of it, yeah. It's a photo of me laying on top of Tom Brady and our then color rush uniforms, the all red uniforms they had on the all white. And we. That game is. It's bittersweet because I did sack Tom Brady. And we lost 1714. Obviously we were the Bucks in that era where we wasn't very good. So we lost 17 14. Our kicker missed four kicks. God dang kickers, man. Oh my goodness. Hey, hey, Nick folk, I love you, but guess which team he went to next. The Patriots.

[Dan Patrick]

He is Gerald McCoy, part of NFL Network's pre game eight and a half hour edition of NFL Game Day Morning with Rich Eisen as the host. Nine, zero a.m. eastern six time Pro Bowler. Are you a hall of Famer?

[Gerald McCoy]

So here's my argument for the hall of fame is I had a conversation with Sapp and they have a certain level of what they look at as hall of Famers because there was an issue when I left the Bucks, they gave my number to sue and I had a problem with it. And me and Sapp had a conversation and he said, gee, because he got in the media was like, what is. What did he do? And Sav is like my big brother. So when we had a conversation, I'm like, why would you say that publicly? And he said, gee, I always told you his levels. He said, there's me, it's Brooks, it's Ronda, it's lynch, it's Leroy. We're all hall of Famers. And you were. Those are the people who don't. People can't wear their number. Are you there yet or are you that? And I said no. He said, okay, so this is how I feel. For me, the re. My argument would be I was voted into the Pro Bowl. I was never a. So there's three different ways to be in the Pro Bowl. You can have the coaches, GMs, the players and the fans. I was Never a top 10 fan voted player into the Pro Bowl. So if the people who are voting me into the Pro bowl are the coaches, GMs and the players, those are the ones who are playing against me and have to game plan against me. We were the Bucks who were a losing team. And for eight straight seasons there's like eight or nine people who had five or more sacks. Like eight maybe to 10 people. There was one defensive tackle, he's from Oklahoma City. His name is Gerald McCoy. There's five the tackles in NFL history to have six straight P.O. bowls and five plus sacks. Five Aaron Donald, Warren Sapp, Chris Jones, John Randall. And there's a kid from Oklahoma City, his name is Gerald McCoy. So when I think about what I was able to accomplish in that to be a Hall of Famer, I feel like you have to dominate a 10 year span. And out of that 10 year span I feel like I was dominant enough to where every team had to deal with me and game plan for me. So for me, I don't really necessarily care if I get in the hall of Fame. The goal for me, and this is what I tell all kids be in the conversation. The fact that he just asked me that mission accomplished. I did enough to where he asked me, should you be a hot. Do you believe you're a Hall of Famer? He ain't asking everybody that fans. He's not asking everybody that mission to come. I'm from the south side of Oklahoma City. If I name other people from Oklahoma, I would name Blake Griffin. I'm sure y' all all know who that is. Okay, y', all, I'm sure y' all know who Trey Young is. Y' all see what I'm saying? It ain't. It ain't many of us. So if, if, if I'm. If I get in, great. If I don't, excellent. The fact that I'm in the conversation, man. God, thank you. I did enough.

[Dan Patrick]

Who would you rather face? Sam Darnold or Drake May?

[Gerald McCoy]

Who? Oh, I would rather. That's tough. I would rather face Drake May because momentum currently right now, Drake is better with his feet. But a lot of what happened in the AFC championship, he made a lot of plays with his feet, but it was because of poor Rush Lanes. Rush integrity was bad. He wasn't beating you with his mind and his arm. That's not what he's been doing. He's been Fumbling a lot. He's been making plays. But what Sam Darnold has been doing is he's been protecting the ball and he went blow for blow with what I believe is the MVP in the moment where a lot of people said he hasn't been that guy. I would rather deal with a person who can run but can't pick you apart. They are, because we can remedy that. But a person who can pick you apart with their mind, that's hell to deal with because there's really nothing you can do about it. They can manipulate the defense, make all the throws. And Drake has had a great second year, but Sam has seen a lot. So I would rather face Drake May in this current state right now.

[Dan Patrick]

Would you go after Drake May's shoulder?

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, for sure. Heck, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, man.

[Dan Patrick]

No, don't you talk. Defense would talk about.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah, don't put nothing on the injury report. Nothing. Because we gonna test it out. We had a play. So if you had a bad ankle, we would run a play called flush. And it's where you take the defensive lineman to his throwing hand. You purposely take them underneath so he flushes out. You take your fastest defensive lineman and you sprint around. We have a rule. Don't run behind the quarterback this time. You want him to because you want to run him out. You want to test out that ankle. Let's see if he can really run. If it's your hand, I'm going to walk by and say, hey, good throw. If it's your shoulder, I'm going to grab you and twist you and bump you and all of that because we have to see, like, let's see how hurt he really is. And who taking the flag? Who's taking the flag because somebody's going to land on him on his shoulder, like somebody. And coaches like, listen, we gotta take 15. It's a long game. But that's just, that's part of it. That's. That's the chess match of football.

[Dan Patrick]

It's Super Bowl. Gerald McCoy, NFL Network analyst, third overall pick in the 2010 draft out of Oklahoma. And he'll be part of the festivities on NFL game day morning. That'll be Sunday at 9am Eastern on NFL Network. We love having you on. We appreciate it.

[Gerald McCoy]

I love being here.

[Dan Patrick]

And have fun. Have fun this weekend. And thanks for joining us. We'll come back with our play of the day right after this. FOX Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation.

[Seaton]

Catch all of our [e-mail] and within.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Patrick]

Oh my God. The play of the day. This is the play of the day.

[Paulie]

Check this out.

[Dan Patrick]

Wiggins into the paint up over wet.

[Gerald McCoy]

Minyama Wembanyama there to block it away.

[Dan Patrick]

That's block number two of the night.

[Gerald McCoy]

Fox back to Wimy, lobs it up and in.

[Seaton]

Count the basket in the foul.

[Dan Patrick]

And there's The Dagger Victor Wembanyama, 22 points, 14 rebounds, 2 blocks as they go wire to wire against the Thunder. Thunder had only eight active players. It was the second night of a back to back. Obviously Shay Gilous Alexander injured and probably out till after the All Star break. Play of the Day brought to you by TCL the QM8K QM9K. Best seat in the house. Beautiful TV, the official TV partner of the NFL, available at all major retailers. I alluded to the Deion Sanders comment. This was the super bowl in Minnesota and he joined us and he was telling us the story about Bo Jackson. And Bo will join us at the top of the hour. And Dion was talking about when he was in college, facing Bo when he was in college, when I played for.

[Dion Sanders]

Florida State as a freshman. True story. Bo was at Auburn, back in the backfield with Brent Forwood. Probably the best Handima running backs I've ever seen in college. These guys were unbelievable. And you know, you know, you heard of Bo Jackson. You were kind of in awe as a Young Collegiate. I'm 17 years old playing Florida State, 18 at the time, just turned 18. Bo goes behind the huddle in Auburn and throws his hands up as if he was signifying the crowd to get it up. They start cheering and applauding and I was playing left corner. Bo got to sweep to his left away from me and hit it. I mean, hit it. And he was gone. I came out of nowhere because I could fly. Canaan got him, ran up on him like it was no other with his right arm. He extended it, placed it on my helmet as if he was praying for me, palming my helmet and stiffed me down and Kept going into the end zone like I wasn't even there. That was my Bo Jackson moment.

[Dan Patrick]

Dion doesn't get humbled very often, but even when he's humbled, he's still entertaining.

[Seaton]

That's such a great story. He tells it so well.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. While he's still complimenting himself. And Bo puts him on the ground. Because I can fly. Because I can fly.

[Seaton]

Came up on him like no other.

[Dan Patrick]

Like no other.

[Gerald McCoy]

Like.

[Dan Patrick]

Cause I could fly. Yeah, Paulie.

[Paulie]

And you could easily find that video clip on YouTube. And Bo Jackson is just gigantic, and he's plowing through people, and Dion comes up on him, and. And the crowd is going nuts. It's easy to find. It's really fun to watch.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, it is a meat Thursday. I forgot to tell you what's on the menu. Pulled pork, smoked sausages, Mac and cheese, brisket, baked beans, and coleslaw. Who has it better than we do?

[Marvin]

Nobody.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Courtesy of heartland steak company heartlandstakeco.com all right, update. The poll result. By the way, the former New England Patriot defensive back, Asante Samuel is not taking this Tom Brady, I don't have a dog in the fight comment very well. No. You've been following this on social media.

[Gerald McCoy]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

He's going crazy. He's going crazy. He said he has a bunch of tweets here, but he's like, brady, you can't be the only one winning Super Bowls. Let me find out. You're hating on Drake, May, and Vrabel. I don't have a dog in this fight. Not what I wanted to hear. Brady knows how I get down. This ain't nothing new to him. Tom Brady, you have 23 hours to respond or it's up. I'm going 8 bleep about who you are. Tom Brady's new name is Flaw Ass Brady. He's going crazy.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Seaton]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

He's pissed.

[Seaton]

He's like, you got 23 hours to respond. Tom's on hour 12, so got a little time to think about this one there.

[Gerald McCoy]

Tv.

[Dan Patrick]

Tom could have avoided this. He could have avoided this. What are you doing?

[Marvin]

So easy.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes. It's okay to say. We know that you're a former Patriot. You got a statue. We're okay with that. We know you're hiring the offensive coordinator for Seattle. We're okay with that. You're a part owner of the Raiders. We're somehow okay with that. I mean, come on.

[Seaton]

You know, when I think back to the six super bowl championships that I won with New England, I really could have been Anywhere. It really didn't matter to me where I was, because I think my hard work and determination was going to push me through to the super bowl regardless of where I was.

[Dan Patrick]

Once again, that is not Tom Brady. That is Seton doing as Tom Brady. What?

[Marvin]

Yes, Marvin, the head coach of the Patriots. You won three Super Bowls with this guy. You could have just said, even if you have an issue with the Patriots organization right now, you could say I'm rooting for Mike Vrabel because that's my guy. We won championships together. But now you look like the lead singer. I'm Tom Brady, and these are the Patriots. Like, no, no, I don't want anything to do with them. Come on.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but what would. What would be his problem with the Patriots?

[Marvin]

No, I'm just saying, even if there was, like, why would you even say. This is so ridiculous.

[Gerald McCoy]

It is Asante 10 hours, but I.

[Dan Patrick]

Do like the Asante Samuel take on this. Yeah.

[Marvin]

Teddy Bruski, Vince Wolfork, Julian Edelman just posted some on social media.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, is Edelman and mad at Brady?

[Marvin]

No, no, he's just saying, let's go, Patriots. It's on the Patriots. No, no, no, no.

[Dan Patrick]

Let's go. No, no.

[Marvin]

He knows where his body.

[Dan Patrick]

Animals not going after Tom.

[Seaton]

It's like they're in this one.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Paulie]

Paul should. Should. And will Tom Brady address this before the game via social media or other? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Seaton]

Lame.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Seaton]

Too late. Too late. What, now all of a sudden he's gonna come running down the street? Yeah. Why don't you get out of here? What about that?

[Dan Patrick]

It'd be great if he was out there with the flag on Super Bowl Sunday, running down Patriots nation.

[Seaton]

This is a big game for you.

[Marvin]

This one's for Drake.

[Dan Patrick]

Bo Jackson. At the top of the hour. Kirk, Herb street and his dog are stopping by. Andrew Locke joins Tom Brady.

[Seaton]

Got the dog, if you ask me.

[Dan Patrick]

Andrew Locke driving down from Stanford. Or is it driving up from Stanford? Melissa Stark and Kaylee Hartung. They're the sideline reporters for Super Bowl 60. They will join us as well. One hour in the books on this Thursday. Two more to go. Fritzi, the minister of humor is here. Seton, Marv, Paulie, yours truly, and of course, the very talented backroom guys. Hour two on the way with Bo Jackson joining us. Hope you'll stay with us as well.

[Gerald McCoy]

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