The Dan Patrick Show – Hour 2

Date: November 4, 2025
Guests: Andrew Marchand (The Athletic), Jay Glazer (FOX NFL Insider)
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Episode Overview

On this hour of The Dan Patrick Show, Dan and the crew focus on the evolving landscape of sports media rights, particularly the carriage dispute between YouTube TV and ESPN, with guest expert Andrew Marchand explaining the stakes for viewers and networks. Later, NFL insider Jay Glazer joins live from London to discuss the NFL trade deadline’s latest rumors, the realities behind “blockbuster” trade hopes, and some personal stories about health and friendship. Along the way, there’s classic DP Show banter, including debates over all-time dunkers and NFL player potential for MMA, plus calls from listeners weighing in on the Cowboys, Steelers receivers, and more.

Main Themes

• Sports Media Rights and Carriage Disputes: The YouTube TV–ESPN conflict and what it means for fans.
• Streaming Versus Traditional TV: The future balance between streaming giants and broadcast networks.
• Baseball’s Media Momentum: MLB’s viewership successes and media challenges.
• NFL Trade Deadline: Insider updates, rumors, and reality checks on trades from Jay Glazer.
• Player & Coach Speculation: Moves, injuries, and coaching hot seats.
• Personal Friendship and Health Journeys: Dan and Jay’s shared stories about health, recovery, and support.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Mount Rushmore of Dunkers—Reggie Miller's Controversial List

• Discussion Time: 03:30–06:04, 23:43–24:16
• The crew debates Reggie Miller’s picks for all-time dunkers: Michael Jordan, Dominique Wilkins, Vince Carter, and—surprisingly—Zach LaVine.
• Dan’s reaction:
  “That’s the worst list I’ve ever seen.” (05:14, Dan Patrick)
• Crew consensus: Dr. J and Sean Kemp deserve more recognition for iconic in-game dunks.

2. YouTube TV vs. ESPN Carriage Dispute

• Guest: Andrew Marchand (The Athletic)
• Discussion Time: 06:04–09:42
• Marchand explains the dispute:
  • YouTube TV’s price has surged from $35 (2017) to over $80.
  • ESPN charges providers roughly $15 per month, which gets passed to viewers.
  • Disney (ESPN parent) and Alphabet (YouTube’s) are in a standoff, with each pointing fingers.
  • “It’s like rooting for the Dodgers or the Yankees. Nobody wins. The losers are people like you who have YouTube TV.” (07:32, Andrew Marchand)
• Both sides are billion-dollar companies for whom individual subscribers matter little; fans get caught in the middle.
• Resolution could be delayed, especially with major sports events used as leverage.

2A. Making Your Voice Heard

• Paulie asks: How can viewers impact these negotiations?
• Marchand:
  • The companies care “at some level,” but ultimately, “this is just pure business.”
  • “There’s nobody to root for here.” (08:48, Andrew Marchand)

3. Streaming vs. Network TV – The Near Future

• Discussion Time: 09:42–11:05
• Despite headlines, the major sports leagues (NBA, NFL) aren’t abandoning broadcast/linear TV anytime soon.
• Recent deals (like NBA’s $76 billion contract) show networks remain key, though platforms like Amazon and Peacock now have slices of the pie.
• Quote:
  “The idea that Netflix or YouTube TV or Apple or Amazon Prime Video is about to take over everything is a misnomer—at least in the near term.” (10:00, Andrew Marchand)
• The NFL is unlikely to fully ditch the current broadcast partner model.

4. Baseball’s Media & Ratings Surge—and Its Problems

• Discussion Time: 11:05–12:49
• MLB saw strong numbers (“26 million watched Game 7”), but media deals remain complicated—blackouts, multiple streaming services, and fragmented access frustrate fans.
• Marchand:
  “If you’re a Yankee fan, for example, you might go seven days and you might have to have seven different entities to watch your games. It’s a problem.” (11:49)
• Still, positive momentum thanks to pitch clock, strong attendance, and upcoming platforms (NBC, Peacock, Netflix).

5. ESPN’s Use of TNT NBA Studio Show

• Discussion Time: 12:49–13:55
• Despite early worries (especially on social media), ESPN allows Charles Barkley & Co. to do their show unchanged:
  “The idea that you’re going to bring in those four guys—iconic show—and change it did not make any sense… it’s the same program.” (13:17, Andrew Marchand)

6. Listeners Weigh In: Cowboys, Steelers Receivers

• Discussion Time: 14:19–18:42
• Cowboys fans, frustrated with defense and offense after a rough loss, call in.
• Alice from Pittsburgh expresses relief that George Pickens is gone due to attitude issues:
  “He’s just going to have temper tantrum after temper tantrum. It can only get worse in Dallas.” (17:07, Alice, caller)
• Recurring theme: Pittsburgh’s history of “man, if that Guy ever puts it all together,” referencing several underperforming receivers.

7. NFL Trade Deadline – Jay Glazer’s Insider Update

• Guest: Jay Glazer
• Discussion Time: 24:16–41:11
• Joining from London (doing FOX’s Veterans Day show from D.C. later)
• Dallas “isn’t done” after acquiring Logan Wilson; looking for pass rushers.
• Players possibly in play:
  • Trey Hendrickson (Bengals): Now teams are listening, but asking price is very high.
  • Bradley Chubb (Miami): Likely to be moved; Miami wants his salary off the books.
  • Wide receivers: A.J. Brown (Eagles: not happening), Shaheed (Saints), Calvin Ridley (Titans), Myers (Raiders).
• On Maxx Crosby trade rumors:
  “No, he doesn’t want to go anywhere. That’s straight from the horse’s mouth.” (27:30, Jay Glazer)
• On Myles Garrett:
  “Untouchable. I’ve been told a hard no from everybody I’ve asked.” (28:35, Jay Glazer)
• Trades for “blockbuster” names increasingly rare:
  “People for trade deadline, they’re hoping for these big names, but it’s just not like that these days.” (27:11, Jay Glazer)
• On Shador Sanders rumors: No indication Jets would trade for him; unclear where teams rated him in the draft.
• On Miami Dolphins GM firing: Glazer doesn’t believe it was over trade-deadline moves; the timing puzzled the league.

8. Coach’s Hot Seat – Why Glazer Doesn’t Speculate

• Discussion Time: 31:55–32:57
• Glazer explains why he avoids "hot seat" reporting:
  “People have guys fired all the time. I don’t do it because I like to deal in accuracy. I like to be right.” (32:17, Jay Glazer)
• Coaches consistently “save their jobs” with late-season runs.

9. Quarterback Futures (Tua, Kyler Murray)

• Discussion Time: 33:01–34:25
• Kyler Murray could be moved after the season, but his contract is an obstacle.
• Miami’s next direction (and Tua’s future) depends on who is coach next year.

10. Insider Gamesmanship

• Quote:
  ”People try subterfuge on the reporters, but now they’re doing it on each other at the deadline… ‘Can you believe all these guys are calling us about player X?’ Which means, what do you want to give us for player X?” (34:14, Jay Glazer)

11. Jay Glazer & Dan Patrick—Friendship, Health, and Recovery

• Discussion Time: 34:33–37:13
• Glazer credits Dan for being there through health struggles; both share gratitude for access to stem cell therapy in Panama.
• ”That’s what brothers should do, you know, you share healing.” (35:42, Jay Glazer)
• “I mean, helped change my life and got me healthier. And as I’ve said before, it’s not for everybody. It’s something I believe in.” (36:25, Dan Patrick)
• Touching moment of mutual support.

12. NFL Players Who Could Succeed in MMA

• Discussion Time: 39:42–40:45
• Jay Glazer identifies Kyle Long, Deshaun Golston, and Derwin James as “nasty” and athletic enough to fight professionally.
• Entertaining aside: musicians (e.g., Jonas Brothers, Demi Lovato) also pick up fighting techniques quickly.

Notable Quotes & Moments

• On the Carriage Dispute:
  “It feels very evil that you’re paying $80 a month, did your end, you didn’t get your games, and then Mickey Mouse—I’ve said before, he’s a passive-aggressive little rodent.” — Andrew Marchand (08:28)
• On “Blockbuster” Deadline Deals:
  “They’re hoping for these big names, but it’s just not like that these days. Hasn’t been for the last couple years.” — Jay Glazer (27:15)
• On Fan Frustration with Streaming:
  “You’re a Yankee fan… you might have to have seven different entities to watch your games. It’s a problem.” — Andrew Marchand (11:54)
• On Complicated NFL Front Office Moves:
  “Poor Champ Kelly got this running—like, I don’t even know what conversations really were being had.” — Jay Glazer (30:36)
• On Player Loyalty:
  “Maxx [Crosby] told me he doesn’t want to go anywhere… he’s extremely loyal.” — Jay Glazer (27:33)
• Jay and Dan Share a Touching Moment:
  “I will be there for my dude. And then out of nowhere, right, you check up on me.” — Jay Glazer (35:07)

Timestamps for Key Segments

| Time | Segment / Topic | |-------------|---------------------------------------------------| | 03:30-06:04 | Mount Rushmore of Dunkers (Zach LaVine debate) | | 06:04-09:42 | YouTube TV vs. ESPN Carriage Dispute | | 09:42-11:05 | Streaming vs. Networks: The Future | | 11:05-12:49 | Baseball’s Ratings Surge & Media Problems | | 12:49-13:55 | ESPN + TNT NBA Studio Show Integration | | 14:19-18:42 | Listener calls: Cowboys/Steelers receivers | | 24:16-41:11 | Jay Glazer: Live NFL Trade Deadline Update | | 31:55-32:57 | Coaching Hot Seat Rationale | | 33:01-34:25 | QB Futures: Kyler Murray, Tua, Dolphins | | 34:33-37:13 | Glazer & Dan on Health, Support, and Healing | | 39:42-40:45 | NFL Players as MMA Fighters |

Podcast Tone & Style

Dan Patrick’s signature blend—insight, dry humor, and genuine curiosity—sets the tone. Andrew Marchand provides expert, often wry analysis of the byzantine world of sports media. Jay Glazer brings both reporting chops and candor, with moments of camaraderie and optimism in his conversations with Dan. Listener calls bring additional firsthand perspective and playful banter.

For Listeners Who Missed It

This hour delivers the inside scoop on sports media battles (especially the YouTube TV–ESPN faceoff), demystifies the NFL trade deadline with rare behind-the-scenes stories from Jay Glazer, and showcases the DP Show’s signature smart sports talk plus moments of humor and real-life heart. Essential for anyone interested in the future of how we watch sports and the personalities who shape the games.

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