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Levar Arrington
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Jonas Knox
It's the Dan Patrick show here, the man cave on Fox Sports Radio. Just saying he's Lavar Arrington. That guy's Brady Quinn. I'm Jonas Knox in for Dan and the guys. You can hear us weekday mornings before the Dan Patrick show on two pros and a cup of joe from 6 to 9am Eastern time. But we will be carrying the load the rest of the way here until noon Eastern Time, 9 o' clock Pacific today. You can find us on the iHeartRadio app on hundreds of affiliates. You can listen to the podcast and you can check out our brand new YouTube channel for the show. Just search 2 Pros FSR on YouTube. Again, that's 2 Pros FSR. Be sure to hit the subscribe button. Don't stop there. Hit the thumbs up icon and comment away. Let us know who on the show you agree with, who you think is completely wrong. Check out our new channel on YouTube again, just search 2 pros FSR and subscribe. And good morning to you and yours. What up, Sticks?
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Brady Quinn
Yeah, what up, what up?
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Levar Arrington
You're always like laid back, man. You're like. You never get as much excitement out of you, you know?
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Brady Quinn
What's up, y'? All?
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Levar Arrington
There it is.
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Brady Quinn
What up, what up, what up? Beefaroni, cowboy.
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Jonas Knox
Hey, so you got all the kids in town, are you guys, What's New Year's Eve gonna look like?
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Brady Quinn
I don't know, man.
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Jonas Knox
Get lit up.
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Brady Quinn
It's gonna be probably. Probably start soon as the show's over. It probably started yesterday.
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Levar Arrington
Already started. Yeah, continuing into today.
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Brady Quinn
They top golfed yesterday, so my son's actually a pretty doggone good golfer, man, the younger one. So they went golf. Have a good time doing that.
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Levar Arrington
Did you bring monsieur? Well, I know she loves topgolf.
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Brady Quinn
Yeah, no, and in Vegas too, of all places. Now, we didn't take her yesterday. Sorry. What's up, Monsieur? I guess we might be. We might need to retire that.
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Jonas Knox
All right, so you guys want to hear John Calipari about. About a situation that's currently going on in college basketball?
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Brady Quinn
He recruited me.
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Jonas Knox
Calari did.
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Levar Arrington
Where was he at then? UMass.
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Brady Quinn
UMass. That was when he had Marcus Camby and. Yeah, they had that year, that magical year they practiced on our court. He. He came there because his. His head coach was my head coach, his college head coach was my high school head coach. And they were recruiting me. So they brought the team there to practice. He came and gave us a great speech.
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Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
So.
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Brady Quinn
Yeah, so you get fond memories.
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Jonas Knox
You got recruited by Coach Cal, Bob Huggins, who else?
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Brady Quinn
John Thompson.
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Jonas Knox
Hell, yeah. Yeah, I'm talking about.
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Brady Quinn
I mean, I had a few. Villanova recruited me. Had a few. Few teams, you know, that I just stopped growing, that's all. You know, that was the problem. I would have had to become a real basketball player if I was going to play basketball. It's too short to just use talent.
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Levar Arrington
So that's wild too, because. How tall are you?
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Brady Quinn
Like 6, 4, 6 5, 6, 4, 6, 4. It's not 6 3, just under 6, 4. Right.
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Levar Arrington
It's just funny though, that, like, you're like this, this. Yeah, but this is the way you're saying it. Like, I'd have to become a real basketball player. Which, you know, for most people, like, I just. I don't know, like, you were better than most.
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Brady Quinn
I had a vertical, I could jump. I think what had people confused is I was getting rebounds over guys that were like 6, 9, 6 10. But it's only because I could move quicker, you know, the taller they were, the slower they were. And I beat. I beat quads up, elbowed quads. So you didn't get off the ground as quick, didn't move as quick. I was like a rotman. I was a work guy. I was going run, run, run, run. Use my quicks off the court, too. Absolutely.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah.
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Brady Quinn
Ruined me. Basketball ruined me. Football saved me. Basketball ruined me. It's a different level of clout when you play basketball, man. I ain't gonna lie to you. Like, I was on the circuit, you know. Oh, hey, bro, I was on the travel circuit. And that, that is very different than football.
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Jonas Knox
Bob Huggin showed you the ropes, huh?
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Brady Quinn
Hey, Brian is very different from football. I don't know why. Like, I was considered to be way handsomer being a basketball player than I was a football player. But it is what it is. It's still all worked out so well.
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Jonas Knox
I mean, the good news is you could probably go back and play now.
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Brady Quinn
Based on I got one year eligibility.
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Jonas Knox
Based on what we've seen. So we talked about this a little bit yesterday on our show.
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Brady Quinn
That's wild.
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Jonas Knox
James Najee, who was a former NBA draft pick, he was the 31st overall pick, I believe, in 2023. He's with Baylor now. He has now gone back and he's playing with Baylor. And so some people have not been thrilled about what is going on. Yeah, it's. The whole thing's wild. You got European players that are coming in that are all. It just none of it makes any sense. And John Calipari decided, you know what, somebody's got to speak up. Let me be the guy.
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John Calipari (clip)
Well, look, I don't blame coaches, you know, I've got friends that are playing with 27 year olds and they feel bad. I said don't feel bad. We don't have any rules. Why, why should you feel bad? But let me give you this real simple. The rules be the rules. So if you put your name in the draft, I don't care if you're from Russia and you stay in the draft, you can't play college basketball. Well, that's only for American kids. What if you name is in that draft and you got drafted, you can't play cup because that's our rule. Yeah, but that's only for American kids. Okay, okay, now here's the next lawsuit. Well, we don't have a say over European players. You do if they're playing in college basketball. So that means you don't have a say over high school kids. So whatever a high school kid does before he comes here, don't you do one thing because there's a suit, because what you're saying is if he's in Europe, we don't have the same rules. Does anybody care what this is doing for 17 and 18 year old American kids? Do you know what this opportunity has done for them and their families? There aren't going to be any high school kids. Who other than dumb people like me are going to recruit high school kids. I get so much satisfaction out of coaching young kids and seeing them grow and make it and their family life changes that I'm going to keep doing it. But why would anybody else, if you can get NBA players, G League players, guys that are 28 years old, guys from Europe, do we really know their transcript? Do we have somebody over there? Do we really know their birth certificate?
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Jonas Knox
So that was John Calipari letting it be known his feelings on the situation involving guys returning to college basketball late into their 20s with eligibility still remaining in the NBA draft. Charlie Baker, the NCAA president, he responded with a statement on Tuesday that said, quote, the NCAA is not and will not grant eligibility to any prospective or returning student athletes who have signed an NBA contract, including a two way contract. Calipari was on ESPN last night and said, well, they're moving the goalposts now because now it's if you haven't signed a contract, you can't come back. But when before it was if you were in the draft and you get drafted. That's it.
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Levar Arrington
And, and, and they're saying that because of their legal expertise that someone's provided Charlie Baker, that they feel like they can say that and, and not get sued, because every time the NCAA has gone, you know, up against the judicial, judicial system, they've lost. This is an inflection point for college sports, and it's one of the reasons, like why on our show, on two Pros, I've continually talked about this with you guys in regards to. Everything kind of seems up in the air. And basketball has been further ahead because there's been this whole, you know, at first you could just leave right from high school and go to play professional basketball, and then they came back in with the one and dones, and John Calipari was one of the first to really embrace that and embody that. But even allowing that to take place was a step closer to completely disregarding the educational component and the developmental component. And there's elements of that that are still at play in college football right now, and that's brought forth by the transfer portal because that's now become big business. I say it's an inflection point for college sports in general right now because we've almost looked at trying to, in a way, privatize this whole experience for young people and what this experience means. It used to mean development. It used to mean getting an education. It used to mean, you know, graduating with a degree, a platform, a network and a foundation where after you were rewarded with that, you'd move on into the private sector, or you'd potentially be lucky enough to be one of the 1 to 2 to 3% depending on the sport to play professionally. But at some point that ends and, and now we've looked at. It's completely different. We're all like, well, wait a second. These, these players should be compensated. And yet we haven't had anyone come up with a structure that allows both things to work where they can be compensated. Yet at the same time, we can still keep the educational component there for them. So there's something for these young men and women, when they get done with their playing careers, to fall back on, to then go search for whatever that next passion is. That's the tough part about this whole conversation is as much as we want to make light of it and joke about it, there is a lot of people who are impacted at the high school level moving into college that are having opportunities taken away from people who already had that opportunity and they weren't Good enough. And I'll even go as far as saying this. The NCAA wimping out with how many eligibility waivers they've granted for a lot of players who are now playing, you know, six, seven years of college football. It's the same thing. That same. Same players taking up a high school player's roster spot and his opportunity to crack into, you know, onto the field and play and make his impact. But it's all because it's become big business now. I hate it where it's at. I understand why it's where it is, and I'm not, like, arguing for, you know, student athletes not to be compensated, but there does need to be a reckoning where someone comes and saves the day. And I'm sorry, I'm just not a believer that the federal government is going to do it, even though it feels like every time Charlie Baker speaks, he's begging Congress to step in and give them some sort of antitrust protection.
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Brady Quinn
I think it's a. It's a tremendously large conversation that Caliperi opened because there are a lot of unknowns there, and there are a lot of different. Different ways of doing things and different ways of seeing things. And that's by sport. I mean, it's. It's touched into now, the gender conversation. You don't even, you know, need to go down that road right now. But, I mean, that is a conversation that's out there as well. You know, people's ability to compete and where they're competing at. You know, that those lines have been now been crossed and have been blurred, and those conversations are ensuing. But, you know, by sport, you're talking about people that are, you know, when they say the Euros, you know, it costs more. It costs more to bring European players here to play, for one. It costs more. And a lot of times they go straight from. From high school to pro. There is no, like, there is no system set up the way it's set up here in. In America.
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Jonas Knox
And.
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Brady Quinn
And so if you're. If you are living and dying by going after that, that what you would call experience and trying to bring that here to be able to compete and win in the certain sports, that. That exists. Yeah, you're. You're right. It is going to hurt what takes place with high school kids and developmental situations, because you're not looking to develop kids. It's so interesting. We'll say. We'll hear coaches say it's all about the development. It's all about the development. But, you know, you go into their practices, whether it's football, whether it's basketball, baseball, hockey, whatever, you choose the sport. A lot of times when you go to these colleges, they are not doing focused development periods like they used to. They're not, they get straight into it. They go right to it. No real development. And, and, and for what it's worth, the one thing that you, you mentioned Q. That that really is kind of becoming a scarcity is the educational component of it. You don't hear people speak on education. It's almost like the nil phase of where we are in college athletics has almost muted the conversation of how important education is in this scenario because most of the vast majority of these people will have to find a job post college career. The vast, vast, vast majority of them. And so now what are we doing? We're not, we're not only not preparing them to be able to compete because we want them to be ready made to compete. Come in ready made. If you're not ready to go, then I'm going with who is. But now you're also talking about those, the, the expectations have, have really, really dialed in on what your obligations and your duties are to your team. To your team. And it only becomes an issue with your grades when your grades are an issue. Right? It's not, it's not, oh, you didn't go to class. Okay. Like you're going to get in trouble for that. They, they have rules to govern like you know, going to class and, and getting grades. But it's really not going to be a focal point until you've done something that, that gets you in trouble. You get bad grades, you're not going to class, whatever it may be, but it's not a main focal point of what's taking place. So I, I look at it like there's such, it's such a large conversation because the way we look at things, yeah, you, you go, you enter your name into the draft, you can't come back. That's how I always think, thought it was. And I thought that is what it was.
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Levar Arrington
I think it was when you sign with an agent.
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Brady Quinn
But yeah, when you, when you sign. I thought it was when you declare it for the draft. I don't know. And if you got drafted, whatever it.
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Levar Arrington
Is for, for basketball.
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Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
Excuse me.
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Brady Quinn
Right. Okay. So, so again across sports, if you think about it, you can get drafted in hockey and still go play. You can get drafted in baseball and still go play. You can be a pro in volleyball and still go play. You know what I mean? So it's like so many Differing, differing, you know, ways of, of how things are done by sport. It's, this is going to be a very, very difficult conversation to like come up with solutions for.
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Levar Arrington
Yeah, let me play devil's advocate to you, Jonas, in this situation because wouldn't you look at this and just say, well, isn't that, isn't this how it's supposed to be done? Like, don't you go to college if you're a student student to then figure out what you want to do, how you're going to make money when you get out? And if, if student athletes have already been able to do that at the college level, then yeah, I think we understand the long term impact or the long term risks that are involved if you don't get your degree. But if you're making money while you're doing that, like, isn't that the entire goal? Yeah.
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Jonas Knox
And I look at it, and I've said this to you guys before, it doesn't feel like this is college sports anymore. It's this in between gray area between college and professional to where they're selling you the illusion of, well, it's college and it's a college experience and it's this and it's that. But there's money, there's a lot of money, there's influence, there's agents, there's like all of these things that are, that are now being factored into it. That's professional, like that's, that's pro sports. Like that's what you deal with at the pro level. And, and I don't begrudge any of them because yes, like that is the goal. You go to college to find out what's my next step, what do I, what do I want to do in life. And they've figured this out and they're just like John Calipari said it in the, in the clip. He said, look, I, I got friends that are, you know, kind of feel bad. I mean, I would, you know, question that, how bad they actually feel.
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Brady Quinn
They recruited them.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, they've got 27 year olds on the team. But John Calpari is like, well look, look, don't feel bad. We don't have any rules. There's nothing to govern all this. And so there is also that Don's the moral compass. Well, and that's the other thing too. Like, you know, he made it a point, you know, to let everybody know, hey, listen, I recruit this way.
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Brady Quinn
He self plugged. He definitely shamelessly plugged.
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Jonas Knox
He was, he was one of the first guys that, that Went one and done all the way through. I mean, Brady knows his time in Kentucky, John Calabari's time there.
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Levar Arrington
Bring it up now.
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Jonas Knox
So he's like, he's, I mean, look.
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Levar Arrington
He'S, he's one of the, he's a Hall of Fame recruiter now. What he's done with some of those teams, a little disappointing as far as the development. But again, you only, when you only have one year to make it work to your point, lavar. It's tough. And I think that's one of the issues too with even looking at like college football where you've got to be out of high school for three years before you're draft eligible. But nowadays coaches, instead of looking at a guy that gets there in high school and maybe has to put on 20, 30 pounds and maybe has to learn how to play the position or learn their scheme and then adapt to, you know, the challenges of being like a maturing adult with your time management, being away from home, all that stuff, you know, now they just go, well, that guy's not ready. We got to find some in the transfer portal.
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Brady Quinn
That's right.
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Levar Arrington
And, and they bring in a guy who they've seen on film, can do the things that they're looking for. And, and again, that's NFL. That is free agency. That is exactly what's happening. And it's important too because, you know, not, it's not happening in college quite as much because there's so much money with some of these head coaching positions. So the buyouts are too big. But, you know, as far as being a one and done coach. But there's elements of, I think for players and families and the frustration of not getting the development they're hoping for, at least at some places. Like, I don't want to speak for, for everyone because everyone's, you know, there's different schools that I think do it right and I think there's, you know, unique circumstances that are involved in some of this always. But for football for sure, because it's such a developmental sport, you know, there's guys who, their bodies change dramatically and for basketball it's a little bit different because they've always been on the fast track. You know, they identify kids in junior high, as you talked about when you're on that AU circuit and you're one of those dudes like Cooper Flag people knew about Cooper Flag for forever ago.
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Brady Quinn
Now I'll have you, that's everybody. And that's, and that's a great point. And I know we're up on it. But don't you think it now has to start earlier? Like, we have to. Like, the. The way we approach athletics has to be looked at differently now. And it's interesting because it's something that I'm working on. I'm actually going to be teaching at Penn State this upcoming semester.
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Levar Arrington
Wait, what?
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Brady Quinn
You have to learn, Professor.
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Levar Arrington
Professor.
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Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
ARR.
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Announcer
Yeah.
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John Calipari (clip)
Professor.
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Levar Arrington
No way. You're not going to be. You're being Professor Arrington and part of.
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Brady Quinn
Writing the curriculum, too.
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Levar Arrington
You got to move there. What are you doing?
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Brady Quinn
Yeah, I know it has to. It has to be a coming of. Of terms that extracurricular needs to be thrown out for sports. We've been brainwashed to look at sports as extracurricular, but there's so many opportunities that exist in sports, from agents to money managers to legal representation to the athlete themselves, to marketing and branding and advertising. There's so many opportunities that exist in the category. We have to stop segregating, separating athletics from academics. And I think that that's the biggest thing. We have been brainwashed from day one to think that everything else is more important. Go to school. What do you do? You take your classes, and then when you're done with school, then you go do the extracurricular things like playing a sport, the sport that you're playing for. You have to. There has to be a understanding that the training, the development, the preparation of. Of how you're. How you're being educated at the younger levels has to become. I, I think it has to become more of a focal point. And I know we see these different schools that are like an img. You know, you see it at these different places that have the money and the resources to do it. But there has to be a different approach to how we view athletics moving forward as this NIL era continues to grow. Because the high school level, it's impacting. It's impacting middle school, like youth athletics is being impacted by the nil.
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Levar Arrington
And.
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Brady Quinn
And so to me, there's a preparation that isn't taking place. And, and to be educated as kids, to be educated as parents, as adults, they don't know.
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Jonas Knox
When you guys were in high school, do you remember taking a finance class? Yes.
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Brady Quinn
I learned how to write checks. I learned how to balance my checkbook. I learned how to do all those things. But it was. It was simple standing.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, the simple stuff. But there should be something to, hey, you're going to have a lot of money coming your way at a really young age. Let us teach you.
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Brady Quinn
Like, could be now yeah, let could.
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Jonas Knox
Be now, like, make that part of the requirement if you want. You've got to learn how this works. So at least you've given them the tools. If they don't use it, that's fine, but at least you've given them the opportunity to learn.
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Levar Arrington
And then I think that's part of some of the curriculum now. That's, that's inherent to every Nil program and every school and the college level. You know, as far as high school, it's kind of, it's, it's tough to do that because you're really talking about like the one per. The 0.1%. It's such a small population that falls into this category. I mean, even across.
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Brady Quinn
That will go pro. That will go pro, sure. But, but the idea of understanding the business of sport, that's everybody, that's. That's all. And they should have the opportunity to be educated that way. Somebody that, that played with you on the football team could have been a part of your business unit moving forward through school. You know, they could have been the person that was making sure that your, your branding was, was correct. Like, what is Brady, Brady's brand? We're going to make sure that brand is built and pronounced. What, what is he doing financially? Like, is he able to generate modeling gigs and stuff like that?
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Jonas Knox
He's got the meat wagon. Come on.
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Brady Quinn
Whatever. But think about it. His best friends are his best friends, and they're still buddies from high school.
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Levar Arrington
The media doing anything to help this process.
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Brady Quinn
There's a role for everybody, is what I'm saying. And, and if that role is carrying the bags, and it might be carrying the bags and Meatwagon, your, your backer. We're, we're. We're people too, bro. I'm with you on that. Don't, don't let them hold you down, man. Just be who you are. But, but I'm just saying there is, there is the idea that the educating of, of what sport represents, it should not be looked at as extracurricular. You know, we don't look at you preparing to be a, a scientist as being extracurricular. We don't look at you being an architect or a lawyer as being extracurricular. So, so let's look at something that is a tremendous fabric of what our culture and our society is, which is sports, and make it more of a focal point so that we can actually have prepared parents and student athletes that are more enlightened and understanding what the landscape presents. People don't even know what nil is still to this day ask some people about what nil is, they wouldn't be able to tell you what it is. So educating them at an earlier age, getting parents on the same page at an earlier age for both those who will continue on to be pros and those who will continue on to be students. I might have been a really, really good football player and, or a basketball player at the high school level. I'm not going to make it at the college level, but I still want to be a part of that sport. You're now giving them opportunities as well. You're opening up the gates to having people be more empowered with the changing landscape of what sports represents. Now. That's, to me, I feel like that's what's grossly missing in America because they don't play that in Europe. They don't play that. If you are good, they come get you and you're out of there. You're already, it's already what it is. But, but here we don't do that. In fact, we frown on it if we, if we give, if we give benefits and, and favoritism to elites in, in athletics, it's frowned upon and people try to find rules to govern it and keep them from doing it. I've seen more than enough kids get, you know, suspended for seasons because they wanted to go play at a school where there was better coaching or better exposure or better education on what it is that they're they're trying to do. There's always a roadblock that we're putting up to try to block the idea of forwarding sports. And I don't, I don't understand that, that it has to change at this point.
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Jonas Knox
Yeah, I think part of that curriculum should be radio formatics as well. By the way, for over 40 years, Tire Rack has been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive ship fast and free back by free road hazard protection with conven convenient installation options like mobile tire installation. Tirerack.com the way tire buying should be. Look at the time by the way. Coming up next here we are going to have another edition of Quinn's Wins as we get you set for the college football playoffs. And it's yours. Here at fsr, Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
- [29:43]
Levar Arrington
Paulie Fusco here with Tony Fusco. Yo, as everybody knows, we're the host of the award winning Paulie and Tony Fusco show. Yeah, but instead of us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan Patrick described us when he came on our show.
- [29:55]
Jonas Knox
Quick, knowledgeable and funny. Opinionated. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
- [29:59]
Levar Arrington
What are you doing? You're interrupting our promo.
- [30:01]
Jonas Knox
Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. You took those clubs totally out of context.
- [30:06]
Brady Quinn
Oh, yeah?
- [30:06]
Levar Arrington
Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take you out and beat you.
- [30:10]
Jonas Knox
Let me put this into context.
- [30:12]
Levar Arrington
Shut up.
- [30:13]
Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
Yeah.
- [30:13]
Levar Arrington
Anyway, just listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast.
- [30:19]
Jonas Knox
Yay.
- [30:21]
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- [33:47]
Jonas Knox
The Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you in for Dan and the guys. Coming up, we are going to do something we do on our weekday show. We hand out awards here. It's the good, the bad and the ugly. We'll get to those again here about 15 minutes from now. You know, we wanted to let you know that there's an opportunity to make a little bit of cash, right? A little bit of cash. And if you're not part of that 1% that Brady and Lavar were referring to when talking about themselves in the world of sports, here's how you can do it. Because feeding off the success of our College Basketball Bracket Challenge, each March, we decided to do a bracket challenge for the College Football Playoff. That's right, baby. With eight teams left standing in the College Football Playoff, it's bracket Challenge time. Compete against our Fox Sports Radio hosts like us and against fellow listeners to see who has the best College Football Playoff bracket. Here's how you do it. You play for your Chance to win $1,000 by visiting fox sportsradio.iheart.com to register again, fox sportsradio.iheart.Com to register, get rules and to fill out your bracket. Entry will be open until tonight just before kickoff at 7:30pm Eastern Time. Again, fill out your bracket@foxsportsradio.iheart.com for your chance to win $1,000. And with that, we give you this. Listen up.
- [35:13]
Levar Arrington
Winning cures all illnesses. It really does.
- [35:16]
Jonas Knox
I'm going to win.
- [35:17]
Levar Arrington
It's Quinn's win. Yeah, that's right. Abbreviated, a version of this.
- [35:22]
Jonas Knox
Come on.
- [35:23]
Levar Arrington
So let's just get right into it. We are, what, a game or two above.500, I think, for the year. Well, look, he was on. He was on when he was excited about that, the last conversation. Nothing wrong with that. Let's kick things off, though. In the quarter quarterfinal rounds, we're going to talk about the bowl games that matter the most. And we've got a big one later on this evening, 6:30 or 7:30pm Eastern. Excuse me. Miami taking on Ohio State. Miami, obviously, with their close win over Texas A and M in the first round, taking on the Buckeyes team that, yes, lost in the Big Ten championship, however, still got a buy, still number two overall seed and they are favored by nine and a half points. Jonas, keep me honest on these lines.
- [36:02]
Jonas Knox
That's correct.
- [36:03]
Levar Arrington
I know there's always some movement. I see this one being closer than the experts think. There's a lot of money, too, that's holding up this line at nine and a half on the Miami side of things. But this is a team that's, I think, been overlooked a bit this season and in part because the inconsistent quarterback played by Carson Beck. However, they've got playmakers all around. Mark Fletcher Jr. The running back, he can tote the rock. This offensive line is massive for Miami. They've done a really good job at providing running lanes but also providing protection to back this season. And then Malachi Toney, keep an eye on him. They'll move him around all over the field. He's just a legit playmaker as a freshman and he's helped kind of create some big moments for this team throughout the course of the season. On the flip side, Mesadore and Ruben Bane, two of the best edge rushers in college football, two guys are going to hear their names called really early in next year's draft. They're going to be tough to deal with for this Ohio State offensive line, which again, when you really look at this Ohio State team. I asked the question earlier, who's the best quarterback they faced all year? Probably Mendoza. It's probably fair to say that might have been the best offense they faced. And even though it was a low scoring game, tight game, one in which Ohio State could have very well won, they didn't. In the end, I think this is another lower scoring game, tight game. I don't. I think nine and a half points is too much. So I'm going to take the nine and a half points. I do think the Buckeyes move on to win this game, though. So that's my first pick is Miami, plus the nine and a half points in that matchup. Next up, we'll talk about the Orange bowl tomorrow at noon Eastern. Oregon laying two and a half points last time I looked. Jonas, that is correct versus Texas Tech. This Oregon team reminds me a bit of Ohio State last year where, you know, remember Ohio State didn't make it in the Big Ten championship game. It was Oregon who ran the table. It was Oregon who got the buy and then Oregon who subsequently, last year in the playoff got blown out by Ohio State. But this team is really. It has all the pieces. My only concern is whether or not Texas Tech can run the football effectively to create some of the balance and really expose. The only issue I've seen this year from Morgan's defense is their ability to stop the run. They've got the playmakers to rush on the edges. They've got the secondary two. I think they get turnovers. It just comes down to if Texas Tech wants to play boy ball and if they have enough balance, they're running the football. But Dante Moore could be making a case for being the number one overall pick after this year if he decides to leave school. I've got him as one of the top quarterbacks, if not the top quarterback. As we head into the draft. I just think there's too much talent on Oregon, too much speed. It's been a great year for Texas Tech. I do think this will be another close game, but only the two and a half points here with Oregon. Next up, Georgia taking on Ole Miss. Georgia laying six and a half points. Jonas, is that still the line?
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Jonas Knox
That's correct.
- [38:47]
Levar Arrington
Okay. Georgia has continually improved as the season has gone on. If you're an SEC fan and you're looking like you always do to root for one team of your conference, then claim it's the conference dominance. It would be get behind Georgia. Gunner Stockton's been somewhat of a playmaker. They found more of a balanced Rushing, attack and defensively, they're one of the best defenses in the country. I think this is where the road stops for Ole Miss. Trinidad Chalmers has had a tremendous season. Ole Miss said, tremendous season. They really haven't been challenged, though. They only played four teams with winning records this year. That excludes obviously their round one win versus Tulane, which again, not really much of a challenge. We already saw that game earlier this season that was arguably one of their best wins of the year. So this is a completely different challenge. I think Ole Miss will be outclassed. Georgia, you lay the six and a half points and they move on. Finally, last game, as I'm looking through my notes, why am I. Why am I blanking?
- [39:44]
Jonas Knox
Alabama, Indiana.
- [39:45]
Levar Arrington
There we go. Alabama, Indiana. My goodness. The number one team in the country is iu and they've exceeded all expectations this year and just winning the Big Ten, running the table, beating Ohio State. If there was any questions or concerns about what this team's capable of doing, they've won in a variety of ways. They stomped an Illinois team that was ranked in the top 20 at that point in time, 63 to 10. They beat who was looked at as the best team all season, Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game. Down the stretch, they've won in dramatic fashion versus a good Penn State team on the road. Yes, I understand. You know, people will take issue with that, but I still think Penn State is a better team. People give them credit, but this isn't a challenge, I think, for IU where they. I just don't trust them in the trenches to be able to compete with Alabama throughout the course of the game. Even though Alabama is elected not to really want to run the football. I do think they're going to have to have a little bit more balance if they want to beat Indiana. But Simpsons played phenomenal. Ryan Williams is a tough matchup. Jeremy Bernard, they've got playmakers on the outside that are tough to. To keep up with. This Alabama defense has improved. I'm not even saying they win this thing outright. I wouldn't be surprised if they do. But I am taking the points in Alabama. I think a touchdown, which last time I checked it was at seven points. It's a seven. Seven and a half.
- [41:00]
Jonas Knox
Still seven.
- [41:01]
Levar Arrington
Still seven. I would take the seven points and Bama, I think this is another tighter game, which, mind you go through Indiana season, when have they played a good team and it hasn't been a tight game. If you include Iowa in that conversation. Tight game. We talked about the end of game Heroics versus Penn State. We talked about the end of game heroics versus Ohio State in the Big Ten championship game. Outside of the Illinois game, most of their big games have been tight. So this is one where I think it's. It's. It's too big of a number. Alabama is too talented in certain spots. That can create an issue. And I do think Bama keeps within the number. So take the seven points here and the Crimson Tide.
- [41:36]
Jonas Knox
That's what I'm talking about right there, baby. Yeah.
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Announcer
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- [41:43]
Levar Arrington
We brought it back.
- [41:46]
Jonas Knox
Mark.
- [41:46]
Levar Arrington
You Patty Sweet. There was an effort made. We got it, ladies and gentlemen.
- [41:51]
Jonas Knox
Geez, Mark.
- [41:55]
Brady Quinn
Just trying to know you was capable of making your voice sound like that. Mark.
- [41:59]
Jonas Knox
Trying to do my part. Mark, you got to turn your phone off when you're doing the show. What's wrong with you?
- [42:03]
Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
I know.
- [42:03]
Jonas Knox
It's a. It was an accident. You know, talking to people, you know, it gets in the way of work sometimes. Damn. By the way, I did put together a little parlay on DraftKings based on the Quinn's wins. So Miami plus nine and a half. Oregon minus two and a half. Georgia minus six and a half. Alabama plus seven. If you bet $10 on that, you're gonna win just a little bit over 126. All right, so 10 bucks wins you 126. And if you want to get real risky and real frisky, a ousand wins you 12. $63 or 100 bucks wins you 12.
- [42:40]
Levar Arrington
Yeah. Just sounds like that's not worth it. Don't. Don't do that.
- [42:43]
Jonas Knox
Since we're doing it here, a thousand would bring you back 12 grand. So, listen, there's. There's opportunities out there. I think I'm gonna four leg it. What do you think about that? Lavar always three legs, and I'm gonna fly.
- [42:54]
Levar Arrington
He's threele it over there.
- [42:55]
Brady Quinn
I'm comfortable with my three legs. Yeah.
- [42:58]
Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
Com.
- [42:58]
Levar Arrington
Hey.
- [42:59]
Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
Yo.
- [43:01]
Jonas Knox
What. What?
- [43:03]
Brady Quinn
Talking about parlaying.
- [43:05]
Levar Arrington
Yeah. Which game? Are you not betting in that parlay?
- [43:08]
Jonas Knox
Damn. So you. Are you saying that my Texas Tech, to go to the. To go to the championship is. Feels like a real long shot?
- [43:17]
Levar Arrington
Yeah. I don't. I don't see it. I mean, the.
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Old Navy / Public Ad Voice
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- [43:20]
Levar Arrington
The teams I feel most confident winning it, obviously Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon. Those three, from what I've seen this year, are the most consistent, they're the most balanced, they have the most depth, and I think they're. They're playing some really good football.
- [43:33]
Jonas Knox
So.
- [43:33]
Levar Arrington
Look, I understand, again, not putting Indiana who's gone undefeated as the number one team in the country as a part of the conversation. And by the way, I hope they prove me wrong because they have overachieved. They have constantly surprised us. It's just being on the field, man, and seeing that team and how they match up physically versus even Ohio State, the Big Ten championship. There's a sense of, like, surprise and just kind of in awe of what Kurt Signetti and his staff and those players have been able to accomplish because they do not look like the rest of the teams who are currently still in the College Football Playoff. When you see the size, the athleticism, the length of and you compare it to Indiana, it just, it feels still like a Cinderella story. Even though I think they've proven to be more than that now and doing what they've done this season. And so look, in my heart, I'm rooting for them. I just, I guess I got to see it to believe it. And I'm a hundred percent okay with that. And I 100 would love to see them prove me wrong. And look, that number's at seven points. It seems like a lot, but the people who make these lines tend to know what they're doing. It is radio formatics.
- [44:40]
Jonas Knox
It is the Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio Radio.
- [44:44]
Brady Quinn
Guy Jonah, sorry, try to get out, but yeah, go figure.
- [44:49]
Jonas Knox
It's Levar Arrington and it's the lavar Arrington show here on FOX Sports Radio. Coming up next on the Dan Patrick Show.
- [44:56]
Brady Quinn
Like, why are you doing this? Like, it's so awkward and it's, it's inappropriate. I don't get that. What are you doing right now?
- [45:03]
Jonas Knox
Because you didn't return my call. We are going to have our midweek awards coming up tomorrow. It is the good, the bad and the ugly. And it's next here on fsr. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows@foxsportsradio.com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live.
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- [49:05]
Jonas Knox
The Dan Patrick show here on Fox Sports Radio. Levar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you coming up top of the next hour. We'll call it about 10 minutes from now. The great Petrus Papadakis is going to stop by. Always a fun conversation with the old P. That'll be yours here about 10 minutes from now. Before we get to a little something we do on our show called the Good, the Bad and the Ugly, want to remind you that with the I Heart Rate radio app, you can stream us wherever you happen to be. Catch us in all of our Fox sports radio shows live 24. 7 in the new and improved iHeartradio app search. Fox Sports Radio in the after stream is live all day every day. And be sure to select Fox Sports Radio as one of your presets in the iHeart app. So we'll always pop up at the top of your screen. There are some good things that happen and there's some bad and then there's some downright ugly things. It's time for good, bad and ugly. All right, Patrick Sweek, our executive producer, what are we. Who's got what today?
- [49:59]
Levar Arrington
All right, we're gonna go rapid fire here. We got the good, the bad and the ugly. Well, the good is Mr. Professor sticks himself are you get to go first? You're the good brother.
- [50:09]
Brady Quinn
All right, the good is I can get through ABC without messing up and we have a lot of games tonight. You know this, this is obviously the start of the big games in, in the playoffs. So I'm excited about that. Super good.
- [50:23]
Levar Arrington
All right, next up, we got the bad. Brady, Sheriff Quinn, you're ready. Oh, yeah, that's easy for me. It's SC's PR campaign and Lincoln Riley and talking that talk like Notre Dame tried to avoid them and meanwhile they, they can't beat a team that's doesn't even have their starting quarterback in TCU a guy through six pass attempts last night. So yeah, I'd say that's the bad is SC and where their program's at right now and trying to take shots at everyone else after they released a joint statement, but then just, you know, going rogue again, doing their own thing.
- [50:59]
Brady Quinn
All right, I like it.
- [51:00]
Levar Arrington
I like it. And finally we got the ugly Sheriff Knox Europe.
- [51:05]
Jonas Knox
It's the constant complaining about college football. Whether it's, you know, teams opting out, teams opting in, players not participating bowl games, the College Football Playoff expansion. What can we do to improve things? It's just constantly complaining, constantly crying. I got news for you. We're not that far away from you looking around and realizing you've got to talk NBA, okay? So enjoy it while you got it. Enjoy this sport while it's here. We've got the College Football Playoff. We've got a classic matchup coming up later on tonight. You've got Miami, you've got Ohio State. Fox Sports Radio's got a bracket you can be a part of. You can what a thousand dollars if you predict and call your shot correctly. These are the real good games we've been waiting for. It's finally here. Enjoy it. Stop spending so much time complaining about it. That's my ugly for the week. How about that?
- [51:55]
Brady Quinn
Jonas is ugly.
- [51:57]
Announcer
Damn.
- [51:59]
Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
Come on.
- [51:59]
Levar Arrington
He looks like the guy from the Hunger Games.
- [52:03]
Brady Quinn
You don't think you do.
- [52:04]
Levar Arrington
You talk about the guy from the first movie.
- [52:06]
John Calipari (clip)
Movie.
- [52:06]
Brady Quinn
Yes, yes. Take that. He does look like the Hunger.
- [52:09]
Jonas Knox
Take that.
- [52:10]
Producer / Executive Producer (Patrick Sweek)
Take that.
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