Hour 2 - Dan Orlovsky, Booger McFarland

Summary

Summary of "The Dan Patrick Show" Episode: Hour 2 featuring Dan Orlovsky and Booger McFarland

Podcast Information:

• Title: The Dan Patrick Show
• Host/Author: iHeartPodcasts and Dan Patrick Podcast Network
• Episode: Hour 2 - Dan Orlovsky, Booger McFarland
• Release Date: February 7, 2025

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Introduction

In the second hour of "The Dan Patrick Show," host Dan Patrick welcomes former NFL quarterback Dan Orlovsky and NFL and college football analyst Booger McFarland. The episode delves into a robust discussion on the NFL MVP race, Super Bowl 59 predictions, and the criteria for Hall of Fame inductions, enriched with insightful analysis and engaging banter.

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Section 1: The NFL MVP Race

A significant portion of the episode focuses on the ongoing debate surrounding the NFL Most Valuable Player (MVP) award.

• Dan Orlovsky’s MVP Vote:

  At [06:10], Dan Orlovsky reveals, “I think I can reveal it now. I voted for Josh Allen. I went co-offensive player of the year for Lamar and Saquon defensive player of the year.” He emphasizes that his MVP selection is based on the value a player brings to their team rather than just statistical dominance. Orlovsky praises Josh Allen for leading the Buffalo Bills to a top seed despite limited offensive support:

  Dan Orlovsky ([06:10])

  “I think that Josh did more with less. It's not like he had nobody with him. He was the quarterback of the team that was the two seed. He beat both number one seeds in respective conferences. He has a historic year… for the quarterback's performance and the value of that performance, carrying in many ways that team to the two seed.”

• Booger McFarland’s Perspective on MVP Voting Bias:

  Booger McFarland shares his thoughts on the quarterback-centric nature of MVP voting:

  Booger McFarland ([31:45])

  “We live in a society where we have been brainwashed that the game cannot function without the quarterback. Everyone says it over and over. I've heard you say it. The quarterback is the most important position in football. And I get it, it is. But when you look at the MVP most valuable, it's a subjective definition and most people lean toward the quarterback.”

• Discussion on Lamar Jackson vs. Josh Allen:

  The conversation intensifies as they compare Lamar Jackson’s performance to Josh Allen’s. Orlovsky argues that MVP should reward the player who maximizes team value:

  Dan Orlovsky ([06:39])

  “Because I think we've gotten away from the real meaning of it. It has to be the value of your performance with who you're doing it with and who you do it against... I think the MVP doesn't go to the best player. It goes to the person who brought the most value to their team.”

  Patrick counters by highlighting Lamar Jackson’s overcoming of critics regarding his passing ability:

  Dan Patrick ([08:39])

  “It was like he had to overcome that Josh Allen had to overcome. Dude, you got to take care of the football... Both of those guys accomplish that.”

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Section 2: Super Bowl 59 Predictions

Dan Orlovsky and Booger McFarland transition to predicting the outcomes of Super Bowl 59, engaging in speculative scripting of potential game scenarios.

• Chiefs vs. Eagles Scenario:

  Orlovsky outlines a hypothetical win for the Kansas City Chiefs:

  Dan Orlovsky ([36:10])

  “So how you win the game is you have to make Jalen Hurt’s feature. So you have to make the most important player on your team, the quarterback, beat us.”

  Conversely, McFarland envisions an Eagles victory through strategic defensive plays:

  Dan Orlovsky ([37:58])

  “...Jalen Hurts was phenomenal... we need to make him beat us. The easiest thing to do in football, you could literally take a snap and hand it off. I don't know if you could drop back and deliver a pass.”

• Key Player Performances:

  They discuss the impact of players like Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts, contemplating how pivotal performances could sway the game's outcome.

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Section 3: Hall of Fame Inductions

The discussion shifts to the criteria and debates surrounding player inductions into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

• Eli Manning’s Hall of Fame Prospects:

  Booger McFarland expresses skepticism about Eli Manning’s immediate induction:

  Booger McFarland ([40:09])

  “Do you put him in the same category as Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady? I don't think so.”

  They elaborate on what constitutes a first-ballot Hall of Famer, comparing Manning to legends like Joe Montana and emphasizing the need for undeniable greatness to achieve immediate recognition.

• Criteria for MVP vs. Hall of Fame:

  The conversation touches upon how MVP standards differ from Hall of Fame criteria, stressing that while MVP reflects annual performance, the Hall of Fame honors sustained excellence and legacy:

  Dan Orlovsky ([40:15])

  “If you have to stand up and plead your case and convince somebody then you're not—doesn't mean you don't deserve to be first ballot Hall of Fame.”

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Section 4: Light-Hearted Banter and Wrap-Up

The episode concludes with humorous exchanges between Dan Patrick and Booger McFarland, featuring personal anecdotes and playful nicknames. They reflect on their camaraderie and mutual respect, adding a light-hearted finish to the in-depth discussions.

Dan Patrick ([38:53] - [39:30])

“I'm a Hall of Famer.”

Booger McFarland ([39:03] - [39:17])

“I would be surprised if Dion thought that was a good landing spot...”

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dan Orlovsky on MVP Voting:

  [06:10] “I voted for Josh Allen because I think that Josh did more with less.”

• Booger McFarland on Quarterback Bias:

  [31:45] “We live in a society where we have been brainwashed that the game cannot function without the quarterback.”

• Dan Orlovsky on MVP Value:

  [06:39] “The MVP doesn't go to the best player. It goes to the person who brought the most value to their team.”

• Booger McFarland on Hall of Fame Criteria:

  [40:09] “Do you put him in the same category as Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Tom Brady? I don't think so.”

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Conclusion

Hour 2 of "The Dan Patrick Show" offers listeners a comprehensive exploration of the NFL MVP race, strategic Super Bowl predictions, and the complexities of Hall of Fame inductions. Through the expert insights of Dan Orlovsky and Booger McFarland, coupled with Dan Patrick’s engaging hosting, the episode provides a nuanced understanding of these pivotal football topics, appealing to both avid fans and casual listeners alike.

Transcript

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[Dan Orlovsky]

Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day. Stat of the day.

[Dan Patrick]

Stat of the stat of the day brought to you by Panini America. Your hall of Fame, Jared Allen, Antonio Gates, Eric Allen and Sterling Sharp. By the way, we did some research. I was curious about this. Jared Allen had four career safeties. That's tied for the most in NFL history. He did get credit for sack when Dan Arlopski stepped out of the back of the end zone in 2008 in a game between the Vikings and the Lions. The Vikings won that game 12 to 10. Let's welcome in Dan Orlovsky of the mothership. You can see him on NFL Live on site with Marcus Spears, Mina Kimes, Ryan Clark, Laura rutledge. Today at 4 Eastern. Dan is actually going to be on the call with Chris Fowler, Lewis Riddick. For fans in Australia and New Zealand, see if is Mike live. That's live.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I have to sit close to you after that.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, if Jared Allen doesn't make the hall of Fame, I don't mention that.

[Dan Orlovsky]

So there's a couple things. Good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Great to see you guys. Happy end of football season. Schefter actually on NFL Live yesterday gave the List of the guys that were options and went to Jared Allen. He was like, I honestly think this. And he plays the play because this might be the play that puts Jared Allen in the hall of Fame and thinks he should thank me for during his acceptance speech. If so, you mentioned we lost that game. 12:10. That's also the 016 season.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

So safeties are worth two points.

[Dan Patrick]

But didn't you last year tell me that one of your assistant coaches fell asleep during a game?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yes, that was actually that year. No, that was in 2007. I had a coach fall asleep in a game. I also had a coach during install. So Wednesday morning you're installing your game plan of that week. I had a coach with. We had binders back then, not iPads. Open up the game plan binder. He was sitting next to me and inside of his game plan binder, he had another binder and he was prepping for a job interview at a college during the install. So I look over to my right and like a kid, like, hides something in his book or something. He had another binder of information that he was trying to gather to prep for that job interview.

[Dan Patrick]

How did that help your confidence level? Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Wait, what do you want me to do on third down here?

[Dan Patrick]

So did you have a vote for mvp?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I did. Yes, sir.

[Dan Patrick]

And you voted for.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think I can reveal it now. I voted for Josh Allen. I voted for Josh mvp. I went co offensive player of the year for Lamar and Saquon defensive player of the year. I believe I went, sir. Tan Jr. I think I did offensive rookie there. Jaden, defensive rookie there. I think I would dig Quinion Mitchell, but I want MVP for Josh. Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Dion was here last hour and he was adamant. He said LaMar Jackson's the MVP. Tell me why Josh Allen is your MVP.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Because I think we've gotten away from the, like, the real meaning of it. You know, it has to be the value of your. How you perform with who you're doing it with and who you do it against. I mean, if we're just going to take the. The person who has the best stats and give them the mvp, then we. We don't. There's no need for a voter. You just take the person who has the best stats. The quarterback was the best stats. And so I voted for Josh because I think that Josh did more with less. It's not like he had nobody with them. I'm not minimizing the other guys, but, you know, I think that the fact that he was the quarterback of the team that was the two seed. He beat both number one seeds in respective conferences. He has a historic year. 40 touchdowns, 8 turnovers, 14 sacks. The without having that, you know, he didn't have a. James Cook got 1,009 yards this year and he got him, you know, the last game of the season type of thing. No receiver, that's a dominant thousand yard receiver. So you know, for the quarterback's performance and the value of that performance, carrying in many ways that team to the two seed defense, I think that was middle of the pack. And when it comes to the statistical performance, Lamar was sensational. But I think the MVP doesn't go to the best player. It goes to the person who brought the most value to their team.

[Dan Patrick]

It's interesting that Lamar proved the doubters wrong that he couldn't throw the football right. That was the big knock.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I don't think it was an accurate one. I think it was a, a stereotypical one when he came out of school.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, he doesn't throw it in the prototypical way and but you know, we compliment Patrick Mahomes who doesn't throw it in the prototypical way.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Right.

[Dan Patrick]

And it just felt like he had to overcome that Josh Allen had to overcome. Dude, you got to take care of the football. Trying to, you know, stop trying to be Superman every single play. Both of those guys accomplish that, which I loved seeing that maturity of understanding what can I do and when can I do it. But you still look at if we do the MVP after the season.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

How different would the would NFL history be if we, if we gave MVPs after the Super Bowl?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Oh, big time. I mean if you, you probably, I mean if Patrick in Kansas City win, you'd go, how are we not going to give it to Patrick, given everything that he accomplished this season. You can make the case for Saquon as well. That's kind of like the downside. At least it feels that way for me this year is there was like a felt five or six guys that you could make a legit justifiable case to vote for them. And if you don't vote for them, you're knocking their performance or you're making them a lesser player you're trying to take away from them. And it's just the reality of only giving that award to one person. Saquon could win it this year. If you told me you voted for Saquon or for mvp, I'm probably not going to argue a lot with it about you. The same. If you vote for Lamar. The same. Honestly, if you voted for, like, Jamar Chase or Joe Burrow, I wouldn't sit there and argue against those guys. But I do think there's an argument for each of them individually. But if you voted for, you know, after the postseason, I think it would change a lot of it for sure.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan Orlopsky of the Mothership joining us here in New Orleans. Dion was talking about his son. He said he's gone first, second, or third. What do you think?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I don't. I don't disagree.

[Dan Patrick]

I think he guaranteed that. He said, oh, I know he's going first, second, or third.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah. I mean, I'm not surprised. It seems like Dion is a speak it into existence type of person. I haven't started to, like, you know, dive into those guys yet. I've watched them a little bit. I'm a huge fan of Shador. Like, I think if Shador was coming out six years ago, I might feel a little bit differently because six years ago was when, you know, Lamar hit the scene, Patrick hit the scene. So, like, you better go be a freakazoid athlete, run around and make a ton of plays. The quarterback position is a. Is a little bit of a pivoting. Not pivoting, but settling into. Re. Re. Affirming the importance of. You've got to be deadly from the pocket. We're back to that a little bit now. You have to have the ability to go make plays with your legs. And I think Shador is. I think his ball placement is awesome.

[Dan Patrick]

But he's not athletic.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think Shador is athletic. He's not a dynamic athlete. You know, like, I wouldn't sit here and tell you I think Jordan Love and C.J. stroud or.

[Dan Patrick]

But is he like Russell Wilson or is he more like CJ St?

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think he's probably. I would put him in the Jordan Love, CJ Stroud grouping where, like, he can hurt you with his legs, but you're not going to design plays for him to run around and make plays with his legs.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Is there. And Deon talked about, you know, he's going to talk to these teams behind. He's already started talking to them. Like, he wants to see if he can get his son placed.

[Dan Orlovsky]

He will.

[Dan Patrick]

Somewhere.

[Booger McFarland]

I'm.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I'm a firm believer, and I've said this publicly, and people think I'm crazy when I say Dion is not going to allow Shador to go to somewhere that he does not believe sets him up for success. And people are like, well, Shador is not worthy of that. Or he's not that okay. Yeah think that should Dion will make sure he goes to the right place.

[Dan Patrick]

So that's all right place that's not Cleveland.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I I would be surprised if Dion thought that that was a a good landing spot.

[Dan Patrick]

Tennessee.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I would be surprised if Dion thought that was a good landing spot.

[Dan Patrick]

So he's going to go three to the Giants.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I would imagine the I would tell you the ideal situation for him would be the Las Vegas Raiders and then probably the Giants because of the Giants history. And I do think that keeping their general manager and head coach provides a little bit of stability at least in the process of the off season and whatnot. So I would put those two places.

[Dan Patrick]

As the likeliest and it's nice to walk in and see Malik neighbors there.

[Dan Orlovsky]

If you go just throw them the ball. Yeah just what's the coverage? It doesn't matter who that guy who.

[Dan Patrick]

Should trade for Miles Garrett.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I think the number one team that should trade for Miles Garrett is.

[Dan Patrick]

I'll give you my thought. I think the Lions should okay I.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Keep hearing that but they have they.

[Dan Patrick]

Have the draft capital.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

You got to go all in this. This team has to win a Super bowl and they got cap room. You gotta win.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

So you gotta win.

[Dan Orlovsky]

My pushback on the lines is this the only reason or the main reason they are here right now is because they've actually gotten the draft right. I was there when everyone would go why do you guys suck? And I'd be like look at our last 10 first round picks. They're bad.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Dan Orlovsky]

And then look at their last five or six first round picks. Second round picks. They're all great. So is it has an organization that finally has figured it out finally feels like they got all the right pieces there. Are they going to pivot away from the reason why or the the the number one difference is because Brad Holmes is drafted well and take those picks.

[Dan Patrick]

The windows now I understand.

[Dan Orlovsky]

I I, I agree with that. That's why they should have traded for Max Crosby last year or during the season. So that's why I like the lines I hear. But that's not necessarily how they've gotten to this point. Minnesota is the one team that I sit there because if you're Cleveland and you it becomes a conversation for you that you're willing to entertain. Starts with the number two pick. Do you like one of those quarterbacks outside of the Shador Dion do you like one of those two quarterbacks? Because they need one. If you don't then Minnesota is the team to call because then you go, well, what are you doing at quarterback? Because if Minnesota wants to resign Sam, or that's their starting point, well, then they have to be willing to pivot off a JJ for a Miles Garrett. So you go, well, will you trade as JJ McCarthy and some Alex Van Ginko or something for Miles Garrett? So then that becomes somewhere that I would. It would make sense for me. The second place that I would say is probably Philadelphia. Philadelphia. That's the thing with Philly. Do you know their most expensive players next year? Jalen hurts his cap. It is $20 million. That's the lowest highest cap hit out of any team in the NFC.

[Dan Patrick]

Even AJ Brown low.

[Dan Orlovsky]

AJ's like 17 or something like that. So they are an unbelievably inexpensive team next year. That's because they've drafted so well in the last four years. So they have the cap flexibility and the draft capital. And if you, if you had to throw Nolan Smith into a trade, Nolan Smith's been sensational. You're doing that just because for Miles. And so everyone keeps saying, Washington, I can entertain Washington. I think Washington has to be very careful, though, because while they were awesome this year and it's a great story, don't kind of fall into what the Giants did a couple years ago. D's first year, low expectations. Oh, my gosh, we make the playoffs, we're closer than we actually are. And you kind of make decisions off of that. Washington won five games, the last play of the, the, the game this year. That's not normal in the NFL. If they had won three of those, that's not normal in the NFL. They wouldn't have gotten to the playoffs if they only won three of them. And so the narrative around them would be a little bit different. I think Washington still needs to be keep a real honest perspective of where they are, that they still have flaws on their roster that were covered up a little bit because of some of those late game heroics that are. Do you really want to give those two, three, four valuable picks away for Miles while he's a great player instead of rebuilding the roster?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, the Texans. There was, I thought, false hope that what they did the previous year and then coming into this year that I didn't think they were going to make the playoffs. But that division is so bad. But they, you know, they still made the playoffs. Before you go, give me the script for Sunday. If you're writing the script, this is how it plays out.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Oh, if I'm writing the script. Saquon reels off a 70 yard touchdown with like four and a half minutes to go to put the Eagles up by four. So field goal by Kansas City will not cut it. They will methodically drive down the field and on third and goal from the four yard line, Mahomes will do something stupidly Mahomes. And he'll throw a game winning touchdown to Travis Kelce and it would be the three peat and Kelsey will retire after and Patrick will be the mvp. And the goat conversation then becomes very real. It's been fun up until this point. Hasn't really felt legit. Then it becomes legit.

[Dan Patrick]

Write a script for the Eagles winning.

[Dan Orlovsky]

The script for the Eagles winning is Kansas City's not gonna like this one. Saquon rips off a big run. Do you know Saquon's average touchdown depth this year is 32 yards? Average. He scored 20 touchdowns. The average of them is 32 yards.

[Dan Patrick]

But how many times did he get inside the two yard line and then Jalen Hurts scored touchdown like seven times this year. Yeah, he would have had, you know.

[Dan Orlovsky]

But to wrap your brain around that, just score 20 touchdowns in the average length of those are 32. He rips off a real big run. And then throughout the course of the next couple minutes late in that fourth quarter, there's going to be the drive. One of two things will happen. There's going to be a, a bang bang play. A penalty, not penalty that should be called against the Chiefs. It. It's not called. And everyone's like, oh my gosh, they finally had one go against them. That would probably be the one that would like the Internet on fire or you know, like I've said all season long, this Philly defense, no one runs to it more the ball and punches at it with more people. Somehow they'll punch the ball out of Kelsey's hands or something like that and they'll recover it and. And that is the ending of the game type of thing.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan Orlovsky, super bowl coverage live on set in New Orleans with Marcus Spears, Mina Kimes, Ryan Clark, Laura Rutledge today at 4 Eastern. And you'll be calling the game with Lewis Riddick, Chris Fowler in Australia or for Australia and New Zealand. You don't have to go to Australia.

[Dan Orlovsky]

No, I will.

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You'll have an accent.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah. I don't call it in an Australian accent though, because I've done that on TV once and I got the mutumbo finger way. Don't do that.

[Dan Patrick]

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[Dan Orlovsky]

People more important than me.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Thank you for your contributions. All year long. Thanks.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Always a pleasure.

[Dan Patrick]

Always great to talk to you.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Always learning.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Thanks for the introduction as well.

[Dan Patrick]

You're welcome. Next year is going to be a whole lot better.

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[Dan Patrick]

I think unless somebody is going to get involved that may have, you know, you may have had an impact on their career. Anybody else that you've had an impact?

[Dan Orlovsky]

Well, my, the joke is I, I've now helped two players from that game into the hall of Fame, Jared being one and Calvin Johnson being the other.

[Dan Patrick]

But we're not, we weren't talking about Calvin Johnson. We weren't going to do that today.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Yeah, I did it to myself.

[Dan Patrick]

Keep your head up. All right.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Oh, try that. Not a problem.

[Dan Patrick]

Keep your head up. Something good is going to come your way one of these days. All right. We'll take a break. Coming up next is Booger McFarland of the Mothership.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Oh, Bug.

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[Dan Orlovsky]

Yes, sir.

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Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirror ball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything because we got lots to say. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

[Nate Thompson]

There was something sentimental when you, when you send it.

[Dan Patrick]

It was like, do I send the heart now?

[Bobby Bones]

I don't like the color edition.

[Nate Thompson]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing A new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast, and it's going to be. Well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers. And wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennick]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennik from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[Dan Patrick]

Sneaking a couple of phone calls. We'll bring in our good buddy Booger McFarland from the mothership. We were curious. PJ Tucker was traded through three teams in a span of five days. And I was curious. The player that's been traded the most or played for the most teams. Ish smith played for 13 teams during his career. Jim Jackson played for 12. During his career, five players played for at least 12 teams. And Ish Smith played for 13. Do you remember? Ish Smith is a point guard.

[Booger McFarland]

He's a scrappy point guard.

[Dan Patrick]

I think Wake Forest, I think he was out of. And he was good. Ish. Right. Thank you. Thank You, Seaton, would you update the poll results from the, well, last hour and the start of this hour?

[Bobby Bones]

Yeah, sure. Right now we've got.

[Dan Patrick]

Who are you rooting for, Chiefs or Eagles? About 58% of the audience rooting for the Eagles. Okay. It's weird that that's the de facto team that I'm going to root for.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

I've never heard somebody who's not an Eagle fan go, you know, I'm rooting for the Eagles. And maybe against the Patriots, they were probably rooting for the Eagles, but that's not a team that people outside of Philadelphia are going to go, you know, not easy to jump on the bandwagon. It's kind of like swallowing something like, I think I want the Eagles to win. Yeah. Yes.

[Justin Pennick]

Paulie, we talked about this.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Marcus Freeman with Notre Dame made them lean towards likability, and Saquon does it for the Eagles.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Booger McFarlane. He's NFL and college football analyst. You can see him on prime time with Chris Berman on ESPN right after the Super Bowl. He'll be on the field with Chris Berman, Alex Smith, and they'll be live from the Superdome. Full reaction and breakdown of Super Bowl 59 as we make way for our good buddy Booger McFarlane joining us on the program. Let's do it. Let's do it.

[Justin Pennick]

Let's do it.

[Dan Patrick]

Meet Friday. I don't know if the food is going to be ready for you, though, Booger. I mean, the grills are, are fired up.

[Booger McFarland]

I can't wait.

[Dan Patrick]

You're looking lean, though.

[Booger McFarland]

You know what I've learned as I've gotten older? Buy bigger clothes. It makes you look slimmer. That, that's, that's what I've learned.

[Dan Patrick]

So what was the highest playing weight you had?

[Booger McFarland]

Playing weight? I got probably 310. But after I got done, I'll never forget it. It was an Easter. I was with the family and we were at the country club, and, you know, it's hot brunch, the whole nine. I had to go use the restroom. So I go to the bathroom and I just happened to look up at myself and my jaws were hanging down. I was 335. And that's when I knew something had to change. And so again, I just, you know, started working a little better, ate a little smarter, and I lost about 50. And here we are.

[Dan Patrick]

Biggest guy you ever faced?

[Booger McFarland]

Biggest guy, probably Kevin Gogan.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, it was like 6, 7, wasn't he?

[Booger McFarland]

6, 7, 3, 5, 0. He was also the, the dirtiest the nastiest. You know, he. Kevin Gogan, spit on guys, a bunch of stuff, but he was huge.

[Dan Patrick]

Did you spit back?

[Booger McFarland]

No, unfortunately, years later, I probably wish I would have, but during the time, that's just something you don't do. Like, that's a no, no. Among players, we don't do that now. We grab a few things underneath the pile. But as far as actually.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, what leads you to grab somebody's. Okay, genitals.

[Booger McFarland]

Well, first. I didn't say genitals. You said that. I didn't. I said a few things.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, what are the few things, then?

[Booger McFarland]

Maybe the genitals. You never know if there's a big pile and. And then we're trying to get the ball and there are guys talking and guys, you know, saying some things you shouldn't say. Every now and then you think you're reaching for a ball and maybe you grab two. I'll just leave it at that.

[Dan Patrick]

Larry Allen, did you face him?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, yeah. He's a bad. I'll never forget. So Larry Allen and the Cowboys come to Tampa. And, you know, Larry Allen, we knew he was a Hall of Fame player, obviously. Warren Sapp, hall of Fame player. And so the buildup during the week was. Here we go. Where the first play of the game based on the formation, they broke the huddle, and Larry breaks the huddle, and he's got. I guess it was snuff or chewing tobacco, and it's kind of running down his lip. And I'm like, geez. And the way the formation set, I slid and went against Larry Allen. I immediately looked at Brooks. I said, hey, you need to check this. They didn't come to see me against Larry. Put SAP over here. I went to the other side because that's what everybody wanted to see. And quite frankly, I wanted to see it also.

[Dan Patrick]

How did it play out?

[Booger McFarland]

Well, it played out. It was. It was good on good all day long. Now, Larry is the strongest human being I've ever faced. Unreal. And you know, he. He left this earth far too soon. A. An athletic freak. Unreal because he was 6, 3, 3, 30. He could run 4, 7. He played. He made all pro at what, four positions? Something like that. He was on everyone except center. Unreal.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but you get those guys, they talked about Larry Allen flu, that you didn't want to play against Larry Allen because he was going to embarrass you.

[Booger McFarland]

I didn't have the Larry Allen flu. I was just smart enough to know, hey, you go over here. I'm going to the other side. And by the way, on the other side, if it was Eric Williams, and I forget who the guard was, he was 340. I mean, it was an unreal offensive line they had.

[Dan Patrick]

Where does that offensive, like, you look at the Eagles offensive line.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

How, like, where does that rank if. Let's say, if we had Kelsey back on there.

[Booger McFarland]

So the Eagles offensive line, I think, is the best offensive line in football. And there's no disrespect to Detroit because I think theirs is good.

[Dan Patrick]

And even losing a Hall of Famer in Jason Kelsey.

[Booger McFarland]

Correct. And I think if Kelsey were, to be honest, he will tell you what he was losing in athleticism, he made up in craftiness and experience. And Jurgens, I think, is more athletic now. He doesn't have the experience that Kelsey had. But, man, when you look at it, I mean, Lane Johnson is probably going to be a Hall of Famer, former quarterback turned offensive lineman, and shows you how athletic he is. The right guard, Makai Becton, everybody gave up on him. The jets said he couldn't play the big ticket. Jeff Stoutland, the offensive line coach for Philly, said, you know what? I'll make you a guard. And he's had a career resurgence. Cam Juergens, young, athletic Landon Dickerson, people remember him because he tore his ACL at Alabama, and Nick Saban put him back in the game in the national championship game to take one more snap. That guy's now left guard. And then the left tackle, Jordan Mulatto, is from what is Australia, 6 foot 8, 350 pounds, and may be the best athlete of them all. So they are athletic, they are big, and I think it's their size, because even if they miss a block, even if Makai Becton misses a block, he's 67350. You got to go around him to miss the block. And I think that's where they become just this unstoppable force. And then you put the best running back in football behind them, because Saquon Barkley's 5, 10, 5, 11, 220, and then he runs 4, 3 in the 40. And I think that's what people don't realize. The New York Giants, as good as they were or as good as he was with them, he's almost unstoppable behind this offensive line.

[Dan Patrick]

Why isn't he the mvp?

[Booger McFarland]

Because we live in a society where we have been brainwashed that the game cannot function without the quarterback. Everyone says it over and over. I've heard you say it. The quarterback is the most important position in football. And I get it, it is. But when you look at the MVP most valuable, it's a subjective definition and most people lean toward the quarterback. He's the most valuable person on the Eagles team. They aren't where they are now without him. But because the quarterback has been put in our minds as they are the man, it's always going to go to a quarterback. Unless you have something that's absurd. Like Adrian Peterson. When Adrian Peterson came back and went for 2,000 yards, it was an athletic marvel. Number one because he went for 2,000 yards. Number two because he did it coming off the ACL. So it has to be something like that for a non quarterback to win the award.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, I don't think we'll see one in my lifetime.

[Booger McFarland]

I don't either.

[Dan Patrick]

This was the perfect setup. But what was your reaction when you saw Josh Allen being named mvp?

[Booger McFarland]

I thought it was wrong. I think, you know, you can make a case that Josh Allen did more with less because Stefan Diggs is gone. He doesn't have really go to number one. Receiver Amari Cooper really hadn't panned out. You can make a case he did more with less. But if Lamar Jackson won the MVP last year, this year has been probably one and a half times better than it was last year. I think he wound up with what, four picks?

[Dan Patrick]

Four.

[Booger McFarland]

Three of them weren't his fault. Dan, I can. What we can pull the tape. Three of them were not his fault. So imagine if he ends a season, 40 plus touchdowns with in one pick that you really can attribute to him. It was unreal. But again, when you have humans voting on this award, we're subjected to feelings. And those feelings are he's one, two. Well, we got to give Josh one, Shaq one. Or Kobe won. How many, how many do we have to give to Shaq? MJ should have won MVP every year, but he didn't. I mean, we. We got to give one. You know, LeBron should have won it every year, but we got to give Russell one for the triple double. Well, he's averaged a triple double since and we hadn't even brought his name up. It just goes to show you how us as humans, and I get it, when we vote on awards, our feelings get involved.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, sometimes we like it simplified. We like it like that's. I can, I can understand that. Hey, that makes sense that he deserves the mvp. And it's weird that one year it's about stats or another year it's about value, you know, So I Think it was flipped with Josh Allen the previous year and Lamar as opposed to this year. It was about Lamar's stats and if you wanted to give it to him, great. I was surprised that Josh won.

[Booger McFarland]

Who do you think should have. I wasn't listening to your take. Who do you think should have won?

[Dan Patrick]

I thought that Lamar was going to win. I. But I would have, I think Saquon Barkley value change, the Eagles, I don't think they're here without him. And the running back, that story, it's due like I. If you want to say, hey, that guy deserves it because that guy won it the previous year, how about give it to a running back? And I think that he lost the MVP or made it harder for voters to vote for him because if he breaks the record, if he breaks Dickerson's record now, it's easy for voters to go, well, you know, they were great and they, they. He broke the record.

[Booger McFarland]

Something.

[Dan Patrick]

It's like Joker, Joker with the Nuggets, you know, guys who said, well, look, he didn't do anything in the playoffs. We can't give him mvp. And I'm like, are you crazy? But if that's, if that's the litmus test of what you do in the playoffs, Lamar's 1, 2 and doesn't had, you know, he's not good in the playoffs.

[Booger McFarland]

And to your point, if that's the case, shouldn't Joker be the MVP this year? Yes, because. Because sga, even though SGA statistically is having a phenomenal year, Joker still averaging a triple double, to your point.

[Dan Patrick]

And he does it in three quarters. Yeah, he does the number of.

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Triple doubles in three quarters. It just makes it easy after the Super Bowl. NFL Primetime on ESPN plus, it'll be Booger McFarlane, Alex Smith and Chris Berman. They'll be on the field there following the Super Bowl. How does this play out for Kansas City? If you said, all right, you're Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes, let's script how we win this game.

[Booger McFarland]

So how you win the game is you have to make. And again, this is going to sound crazy coming off the conversation we just had. You have to make Jalen Hurst feature. So you have to make the most important player quote unquote on your team, beat us, meaning the quarterback. Because Philly is such a run dominant team. Hertz is tremendous at what he does.

[Dan Patrick]

Didn't you say we need to apologize to Jalen? Hurts?

[Booger McFarland]

Yeah, absolutely. Because of what he. Because of how he played in the championship game. He, he was phenomenal if, if you just look at. Because he's been disrespectful, the media in general, the media has disrespected this man by saying, okay, his value or what he does, they've diminished it because he's not throwing for 350 yards a game. But if you look at what he's asked to do in the context of their offense, he does it. We are, and I'm guilty of this also. I played in the era where the quarterback looked like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Aaron Rodgers. He was going to be at a stationary spot and he was going to pick your part. That era of quarterback is mostly gone because the high school game, which leads into the college game, which leads into the NFL game, is producing athletic quarterbacks. So they're going to look different, they're going to run, they're going to have 10 to 12 carries a game. They may throw for 225 and rush for 150. And so Jalen hurts. His value to the Eagles is, is unreal. I felt that there was a, there was disrespect because any other quarterback that took a team to the super bowl, we will be applauding them. And I felt like he needed his flowers. So now with all that being said, if I'm Andy Reid and Steve Spagnolo, make him, make him beat you throwing the football because where he's shown to be a. And he's not bad.

[Dan Patrick]

But prove what people have said. You're saying you got to make the best player. Or here Jalen hurts beat us. You would never say Patrick Mahomes beat us.

[Booger McFarland]

Okay, I'll equate it this way. When Shaq and Kobe were playing, who did you want to beat? You think about it that way. Two all time greats, but you had to take one away. Which one were you taking away?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, I can't take away Shaq. It's not possible.

[Booger McFarland]

Which one did you. People would say you can't let them both go off. You got to take one away.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

So it's very similar with the Eagles. Okay. You can't let the entire offense go off. Take Saquon away and take your chances with. Hurts to AJ Brown, hurts to Devonte Smith. I'm going to take. Because the easiest thing to do in football, you could do this right now, you're almost 80 years old and you could turn around and hand the football off. You could literally take a snap and hand it off. I don't know if you could drop back and deliver Pass.

[Dan Patrick]

I don't know why you had to take a shot at me.

[Booger McFarland]

I didn't take a shot. I mean, you and I are. You and I are friends. If I had to guess your age, I'm not going to guess 40. People would look at me like, nah, he's not.

[Dan Patrick]

You're not going to guess 80?

[Booger McFarland]

You're closer to. Like this. You're closer to 80 than 40. I would assume that's true. Well, then I'm. I'm right.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm a Hall of Famer.

[Booger McFarland]

No question.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm in the hall of Fame.

[Booger McFarland]

Absolutely. And you deserve to be 10 times over. But it still doesn't change the fact you're closer than you want me to.

[Dan Patrick]

Take this zip up sweatshirt off.

[Booger McFarland]

You take it off, you're gonna look 80. It doesn't matter.

[Dan Patrick]

No, like, this is what ladies come to see.

[Booger McFarland]

Which lady? Ladies and plural.

[Dan Patrick]

Like shorties.

[Booger McFarland]

Are they all family?

[Dan Patrick]

No. When I go to the club. When I go the club, and I call it Duck Club.

[Booger McFarland]

The.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, yeah. When I go to Duck Club.

[Booger McFarland]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You know, they walk in, they go, all right, check them out, man. Silver Fox just arrived.

[Booger McFarland]

The Silver Fox?

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Okay, I'm. I'm gonna call you the same nickname that we call someone, and I'm not going to say her name, but I'm going to call you America's Cougar.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, now, is somebody America's Cougar who works at espn?

[Booger McFarland]

No, they. They do not work.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, good, because I don't want you to be. I don't want you to get in trouble.

[Booger McFarland]

No, no. But. But I'm gonna put you in the.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm. I'm like the male cougar, whatever that would be.

[Booger McFarland]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

All right.

[Booger McFarland]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm a lion. I'm a tiger. I'm a panther.

[Booger McFarland]

Oh, you're hilarious.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, Eli Manning not getting in first ballot.

[Booger McFarland]

Correct.

[Dan Patrick]

Means what?

[Booger McFarland]

Means that the people who are voting on the hall of Fame, I think got it right.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Booger McFarland]

And I mean no disrespect to Eli, but I think when you are a first ballot hall of Famer, I'll give you a prime example. I think years ago, one of the presenters told me this, that they presented. I think it was Joe Montana. And back then, you used to be in a room here at the super bowl. You get 15 minutes to present your guy. Whoever was presenting Joe Montana stood up Joe Montana and sat back down, didn't have to say a word. That's a first ballot hall of Famer.

[Dan Patrick]

I agree.

[Booger McFarland]

If you have to stand up and plead your case and convince somebody then you're not. Doesn't mean that you eventually won't get in. It just doesn't mean you don't deserve to be a first ballot hall of Fame. And I think that's where we are with Eli Manning. And it's a. It's a hot topic because of his last name, because of where he played, because of who he is.

[Dan Patrick]

And we're in New Orleans.

[Booger McFarland]

And we're in New Orleans. But I think if you honestly sit back and look at it, do you put him in the same category as. As Joe and Peyton and Tom Brady? I don't think so. No.

[Dan Patrick]

You need to have different floors or, you know, for your hall of Famers.

[Booger McFarland]

Well.

[Dan Patrick]

And a different color jacket if you're a first ballot.

[Booger McFarland]

No, I'm not. No. No, I'm not gonna do that.

[Dan Patrick]

No. It sparks conversation.

[Booger McFarland]

Okay, but why would you. You just told me you're in the hall of Fame.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

Would you want a different color jacket?

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, I would.

[Booger McFarland]

No, I see. I. I think you're not being genuine.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm Dan Montana. I'm Dan marino. He's Booger McFarlane. Oh. Chris Berman. Hall of Famer, by the way.

[Booger McFarland]

No question.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

He'll tell you, too. That's why. That's my guy. That's my guy. I love Nadella. That's my guy.

[Dan Patrick]

Immediately after the Super Bowl, NFL prime time on ESPN plus, it'll be Booger. Alex Smith, Chris Berman live from the Superdome.

[Booger McFarland]

Great to see you always, man.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[Booger McFarland]

Thank you. No, thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you for always being available during the year. We appreciate.

[Booger McFarland]

I. I love you guys, man. But more important, I love the crew. Like. Like the crew is the most important part of this. And I think you would appreciate, you would say this, that your crew with you and the people that surrounding this show really make it go.

[Dan Patrick]

I mean, I wouldn't say that, but others might say.

[Booger McFarland]

Well, I'm going to say that because I understand. They make you look good.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

And you've been a Hall of Famer.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

I hope hopefully you appreciate that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just a quick update. I just a quick Google.

[Bobby Bones]

The male version of a cougar I'm seeing is a manthere.

[Dan Patrick]

A manther. Yeah.

[Booger McFarland]

There you go. Dan the man. A man.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan the man.

[Bobby Bones]

You are a manther.

[Booger McFarland]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. All right, we'll take a break. I think we need to all settle down just a little bit. We need to cool off. Yeah. White man. All my clothes. Okay. Back after this. In the Dan Patrick Show Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio in.

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[Bobby Bones]

Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have over 17,500 passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with a Star. So where else are you going to find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? Based in Nashville, we're more than just your basic NFL show. We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit everything. Because we got lots to say. I. I texted you and you texted me back. Now, I don't know if you have the update, but like all the little thumbs up and heart and stuff, like it's all colored. They changed it and the heart's a little pink. It felt like I told you I loved you. I'm gonna be honest, it was a little pink.

[Dan Patrick]

There was something sentimental when you.

[Bobby Bones]

It was.

[Dan Orlovsky]

When you send it, you're like, do.

[Dan Patrick]

I send the heart?

[Bobby Bones]

Now I don't like the color edition.

[Nate Thompson]

It's extremely pink.

[Bobby Bones]

Listen to Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

It's Julie Stewart Banks. I'm doing a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts and the National Hockey League, and I'm paired up with one of my favorite players, the always quotable Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

I wore nine NHL sweaters and I have story after story to share. And believe it or not, I have plenty to say. And not just about hockey.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Believe me, he does Energy Line with Nate and JSB is the name of the podcast and it's going to be, well, it's going to be quite the ride. We're officially linemates, Nate. We're the Energy Line.

[Nate Thompson]

We'll have plenty of folks join us. Current players, some of my former teammates, hall of Famers, and wait till you see some of the connections that Julie has. She has quite the Rolodex.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Okay. We'll lean into Nate's playing experience and tap into our interests away from hockey and try to do what energy lines are supposed to do, provide an emotional boost. How do you feel about all that, Nate?

[Nate Thompson]

I'm vibing Julie. I'm ready to roll.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennick]

What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pennock from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We're rolling three times a week, on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen going to pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics. And of course, Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

[I]

Ever wonder what it's like to be on the phone with an NFL general manager as you finalize the biggest contract in NFL history? I'm A.J. stephens, Vice President of client strategy at Athletes Verse, where we've negotiated $1.4 billion in current NFL quarterback contract contracts. Introducing the Athletes First Family podcast, the Quarterback series, along with my co host Brian Murphy, Athletes first CEO. We're pulling back the curtain on how these historic deals come together. You'll hear directly from the agents who shaped the NFL's financial landscape, the ones who negotiated Justin Herbert's extension into Sean Watson's fully guaranteed contract that sent shockwaves through the league. This isn't just about the numbers, though. It's about the untold story stories behind these massive negotiations and the relationships the NFL superstars like Dak Prescott, Tua Tungavailoa and Jordan Love have with their agents at Athletes First. For the first time ever, the agents who orchestrate these deals are sharing the details of the negotiations and everything that led up to their clients signing on the dotted line. Listen to the Athletes First Family podcast on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dan Patrick]

We will give you our super bowl predictions coming up next hour, we'll write the headlines for Super Bowl Sunday. Josh Jacobs from the packers will stop by tirerack.com the official tire expert of the DP Show. Go to tirerack.com dan try the tire decision guide. Full lineup of Goodyear tires, special offers, free road hazard protection, mobile tire installation. Tire rack.com the way tire buying should be. Couple of phone calls. Lucas in Texas. Hey Luke, what do you have for me today?

[J]

Hey, Dan, Good morning.

[Dan Patrick]

Good morning.

[J]

Well, I'm a longtime listener, a long time caller, but as of yesterday, I am a first time listener to the Dan Patrick Takes a Gamble podcast. Had a great time with it and it gave me a programming idea. I don't want to do your producer's job for you, but I've got an idea. Take, take it. For what it's worth, you offered an invitation for Shay and Irving to watch super bowl with you in your man cave. My thought is next year I would love an isolated camera on the two of you guys in your man cave watching a Cowboys game because there's nothing better when you've got that smirky little laugh while Shea is watching a cowboy game. So I just want to hear that. I want to see that in real time, mainly to see you almost have an aneurysm from laughing, but also see him having an aneurysm from the Cowboys. So take it forward.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you, Lucas. Sounds like you want us to die from an aneurysm, but anything, you know, good content. I'm all in favor of that. Alex in Utah. Hi, Alex. What's on your mind?

[J]

Good morning, guys. Man, I got to agree with the previous caller I'm on. I would watch that. So happy, happy super bowl weekend, gentlemen. So I'm in a little bit of a conundrum. I lost access to my Traeger and I'm in charge of pigs in a blanket this year. And so I'm wondering, do you guys have any suggestions on how I can judge up my pigs in a blanket?

[Dan Patrick]

I think if you go to traeger.com and then just Google pigs in a blanket and then you'll see if there's certain things that you could do. Chad has all those great menu rest, all those recipes. TJ in Wisconsin. Hi, tj what's on your mind? Hey, bud.

[J]

Hey, shout out to the MVP of pickleball there, Todd Fritz. Yeah, longtime listener, first time caller, six two, a hard 225. Just wanted to note my little brother Christian in Wisconsin. He called in about a week or so ago welcoming his new son. New fan for you, James Andrew and Not to be outdone, since I'm the older brother I welcomed in my third child this past Sunday on February 2nd, Amelia Joy, my second daughter.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, congratulations. Congratulations. All right.

[J]

D.P. how much trouble am I in with two girls?

[Dan Patrick]

Hopefully you get another girl now, you'll be lucky like me. The girls are great, Great, great. Never had any trouble. Great. Abraham in Los Angeles. Hi, abe. What up, D.P.

[J]

What up, Dan? It's first time caller, longtime listener. I just have a question for you, Dan, and I'll hang up after to listen to the answer on the radio. But in Aaron Rodgers first full year with the jets, his numbers pretty much mirror Russell Wilson's first year with the Broncos. And I remember in Russell's first year, a lot of people were saying that he was playing his way out of the hall of Fame. I'm wondering if that's going to be the same thing for Aaron Rodgers. Thank you.

[Dan Patrick]

Well, Aaron Rodgers resume is a lot better than Russell Wilson's. Russ has had a very good career. Aaron Rodgers is, you know, but one of the top 10 quarterbacks of all time. Generally considered the most talented quarterback of all time. Him and Patrick Mahomes. But I don't think he can play his way out of the hall of Fame. Russ I thought he was playing his way out of the hall of Fame and maybe he did. I don't know. Yeah. Paulie, I think if you looked at.

[Dan Orlovsky]

Regular season stats for a quarterback blindly, Rogers are clearly the best of all time. Efficiency, touchdown, interceptions, yardage, just stats blindly.

[Dan Patrick]

And you got four MVPs. Russ has never been an MVP. You had the SU. If he gets the, the next super bowl, then, you know, he's a better version of Eli Manning and then he would deserve to be in the hall of Fame for sure. But you know, it's tricky with these voters. You know, we talked to Peter King, Salantonio, they vote. But what they consider hall of Fame worthy, you know, Eli to me wasn't a first ballot hall of Famer, but he's going to get in. Is Philip Rivers a Hall of Famer? You know, because he comes up for the possibility of the hall of Fame. Yes. Marv, I'm kind of offended for somebody.

[Booger McFarland]

Who'S got snubbed, but we're not talking.

[Dan Patrick]

About him because his last name's not Manning. You find out who it is after the break. Look at Marvin. He can't play pickleball, but you can come up with a church. Sure. Some people just know they could save hundreds on car insurance by checking allstate First. Like you know to check you have the tickets in your wallet first before you drive two hours to the big game. Seriously, you had one job. Now the closest you'll get to the 50 yard line is parking lot D. Yeah, checking first is smart. So check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds. You're in good hands with Allstate Savings. Vary terms apply. Allstate Fire and Casualty Insurance Company and Affiliates, Northbrook, Illinois.

[Booger McFarland]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Justin Pennick]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Dan Orlovsky]

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[Justin Pennick]

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[Bobby Bones]

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[Bobby Bones]

Learn [e-mail] with Amex. Hey, it's Bobby Bones. Join me and former NFL quarterback Matt Castle every Wednesday for our new podcast, Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Between us, we have passing yards, multiple New York Times bestsellers, and one mirrorball trophy from Dancing with the Star. So where else you can find a show with that much athleticism and football insight? We talk sports, but we talk pop culture and music and a little bit of everything. Listen to Lots to Say with Bobby Bones and Matt castle on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

[Justin Pennick]

What's up, everyone? It's Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week. On Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays. Breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast and you will be glad you did.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

What's up, everyone? Julius Rippinks here along with former NHL player Nate Thompson.

[Nate Thompson]

We're doing a new podcast together. Here we go.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

The name Energy Line with Nate and jsb.

[Nate Thompson]

Each week we'll get together and talk about hockey life. All topics are fair game, right?

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Exactly. And you'll never know who will drop by to join us.

[Nate Thompson]

Julie is pretty well connected. She has text threads going that you wouldn't believe.

[Julie Stewart-Banks]

Listen to Energy Line with Nate and jsb on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts.